smartLabs tsMuxeR: Transport Stream muxer

[deank]

Before you could suggest 'output to bluray and remove a directory.'

That's been turned into 'try AVCHD first and remove the directory if that doesn't work try bluray and remove directory, if neither work go back and use the old versions that have a proven method to work'.

Yes, because now --avchd is what --blu-ray used to be.

I would think the point of a programs progression was to make things easier, not more complex.

It makes things easier (at least for me) because I now know that tsmuxer produces what it is asked to do - AVCHD or BLU-RAY output.

If people don't know what their players are capable of - that's another issue.

And you always ignore my notes that NO PLAYERS SHOULD HAVE PROBLEMS if you burn the new --blu-ray output to BLU-RAY RECORDABLE/REWRITABLE DISC. I hope it means something for you and all who read.

Everyone is trying to TRICK their players with DVD discs, containing BLURAY files - and there is the problem. You can never find the perfect solution, because NO manufacturer will say/guarantee something like that... bluray on dvd - no one.

Basically anyone that's been helping people play things, like myself, has got a much much tougher job if this tsmuxer starts getting used and it's all for nothing really.

Yes, because all changes per FIRMWARE-UPDATE basis or PLAYER-MODEL (even with the same brand).

Another thing that causes confusion is that people wrongly identify AVCHD as "Movie-Only" and do not understand that BD and AVCHD differ in other completely irrelevant to this thread things. BD-RB used Movie-only with the old tsmuxer --blu-ray output (now --avchd) and this may very well be the reason.

[turbojet]

Yes, because now --avchd is what --blu-ray used to be.

Originally Posted by roman76r
I removed the useless folders in AVCHD mode:

BDMV/AUXDATA
BDMV/BDJO
BDMV/JAR
BDMV/META
CERTIFICATE
BDMV/BACKUP/BDJO

The new version is here:
www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.9.6(b).zip

really?

It makes things easier (at least for me) because I now know that tsmuxer produces what it is asked to do - AVCHD or BLU-RAY output.

If people don't know what their players are capable of - that's another issue.

It will really be easy for people that are relying on guides and help that say bluray all over the place but yet they have to come back and report that bluray isn't working.

And you always ignore my notes that NO PLAYERS SHOULD HAVE PROBLEMS if you burn the new --blu-ray output to BLU-RAY RECORDABLE/REWRITABLE DISC. I hope it means something for you and all who read.

I've never ignored this and I've said myself that it should. However there's a big difference between should and does, the does is yet to be determined. But old --bluray does play on everything ever tested burned on a BDR. New --bluray is different then old --bluray so there's always a possibility of that does changing to a does not. Splitting a working function with 2 completely untested methods makes no sense to me.

Everyone is trying to TRICK their players with DVD discs, containing BLURAY files - and there is the problem. You can never find the perfect solution, because NO manufacturer will say/guarantee something like that... bluray on dvd - no one.

Um isn't that a goal on this forum?
Now instead of figuring out tricks we have to spend a bunch of time figuring out which tsmuxer output we should use for each individual player. Which makes the past 2 years of research irrelevant now.

Yes, because all changes per FIRMWARE-UPDATE basis or PLAYER-MODEL (even with the same brand).

'Do i update the firmware or keep the old trusty one'
'Do I update TSMuxer or use the old trusty one'
'If I update TSMuxer do I use avchd or bluray'

TSMuxer is just adding more fuel to the complexity fire.

edit: To avoid all the BD/AVCHD confusion why not have these 3 outputs
SD/MMC output: /PRIVATE/AVCHD/BDMV structure 8.3 filenames, AVC, AC3, LPCM only. split files at 4 GB, empty directories deleted
USB/MS output: /AVCHD/BDMV structure 8.3 filenames, AVC, AC3, LPCM only, split files at 4 GB, empty directories deleted
DVD/BD output: /BDMV structure, no 8.3, allow all BD audio/video formats, no split files, no directories deleted

all use bdmv's with IDEX and add some options: 8.3 filename, delete AUXDATA, delete empty directories, split at 4 GB, VC-1 compatibility fix (removes IDEX)

[deank]

Everyone is trying to TRICK their players with DVD discs, containing BLURAY files


Um isn't that a goal on this forum?
Now instead of figuring out tricks we have to spend a bunch of time figuring out which tsmuxer output we should use for each individual player.

I beg to differ - for me tsmuxer is the one and only MUXER application and I never considered its output as final authoring solution. It's ability to create .clpi and .mpls files is the most important thing after the ability to demux/mux various input. It is a base to do almost everything.

I think we both said enough and hope it is useful for all. I'll post in another thread about avchd and blu-ray some day next week. Hope we'll find a way to make things work for most of us.

Also I think we should create a thread which starts with SAMPLE structures for people to test with and then add their players/models to AVCHD/Blu-Ray compatibility list.

[Atak_Snajpera]

Also I think we should create a thread which starts with SAMPLE structures for people to test with and then add their players/models to AVCHD/Blu-Ray compatibility list.
Good idea!

[turbojet]

It's already been in the works for months here and years in the avsforums but new TSMuxer has made that irrelevant. I've been one of the main contributors of the thread here and I'm rather angry all that work may as well turn to dust soon if tsmuxer continues this way.

[deank]

To avoid all the BD/AVCHD confusion why not have these 3 outputs
SD/MMC output: /PRIVATE/AVCHD/BDMV structure 8.3 filenames, AVC, AC3, LPCM only. split files at 4 GB, empty directories deleted
USB/MS output: /AVCHD/BDMV structure 8.3 filenames, AVC, AC3, LPCM only, split files at 4 GB, empty directories deleted
DVD/BD output: /BDMV structure, no 8.3, allow all BD audio/video formats, no split files, no directories deleted


I was thinking about it but then the confusion will become bigger, because SD/MMC/MS/USB output is compatible ONLY with Playstation 3. And of course PS3 has no problems playing DTS or VC-1 even from SD card from within an AVCHD folder.

You shouldn't get angry because we're getting close to what standards are - it should make things easier and you can compile the information now in less than a month, instead of months.

[turbojet]

I was thinking about it but then the confusion will become bigger, because SD/MMC/MS/USB output is compatible ONLY with Playstation 3. And of course PS3 has no problems playing DTS or VC-1 even from SD card from within an AVCHD folder.

Only PS3?

There are plenty of players that have support for playback of AVCHD through USB. I don't think it's well tested but it would be an accomplishment on tsmuxer's part to output it properly.

I'm angry because a lot of my helpful statements which I've spent hours upon hours on cannot be relied on anymore and instead I have to tell them something completely different like you need to add AUXDATA, META directories because tsmuxer enforced the deletion of these upon you. I don't mind the deletion of the directories as an option but it sucks that it's forced.

I really don't care about standards they obviously can't be relied upon anyways. But I do care about software that works and gives me workable output while being easy to use with a minimal amount of guess work.

[deank]

Only PS3?

There are plenty of players that have support for playback of AVCHD through USB.

I doubt they'll support tsmuxer's output via usb, because most would expect USB connection to AVCHD camera and the case then is like the SD playback for Panasonic TVs/BDPs - of course I may be wrong.


I'm angry because a lot of my helpful statements which I've spent hours upon hours on cannot be relied on anymore and instead I have to tell them something completely different...

I concur, and I think roman should've waited with the removal of these folders. 100 users - 100 opinions/requests - you can't satisfy all at once.

I really don't care about standards they obviously can't be relied upon anyways. But I do care about software that works and gives me workable output while being easy to use with a minimal amount of guess work.

You've spent much more already :) It will be helpful not for people like you who spent hundreds of hours, but those who first encountered avchd and bd.

[turbojet]

I doubt they'll support tsmuxer's output via usb, because most would expect USB connection to AVCHD camera and the case then is like the SD playback for Panasonic TVs/BDPs - of course I may be wrong.

It could be at first but it's something to work on.

I concur, and I think roman should've waited with the removal of these folders. 100 users - 100 opinions/requests - you can't satisfy all at once.

What's even more disappointing is that he very well could have used material that I contributed to the research yet did the opposite of my opinion.

You've spent much more already :) It will be helpful not for people like you who spent hundreds of hours, but those who first encountered avchd and bd.

I have and I think I'll be spending more and more time answering questions of what is bluray output and what is avchd output, I don't have the patience for it.

From what I know the most reasonable answer I can give is 'forget bluray output its untested and has no known benefit over avchd except some standards bs. Use avchd and try it, if it doesn't work add these directories: AUXDATA/BDJO/META. If it doesn't work I have no answer'

Quite a longwinded answer to something that has gotten to be fairly simple.

[SeeMoreDigital]

The ability to create compliant AVCHD files, for transferring onto SD cards would be a superb addition to TSmuxer.....

Essentially, a compliant AVCHD cards file structure looks quite different to a Blu-ray disc's file structure. The files "extensions" are different too. There are no "menus" either.

[deank]

Just my 2c but... SD compliant AVCHD is the REAL AVCHD and I'm almost there. And it can support menus - I got samples with menues and created SD samples w/o menues with Panasonic's HDwriter. Menus won't show on your TV (don't know for the BDP) - but they can be in the structure. As I earlier posted - this true AVCHD is really complex structure but will work in the end.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Just my 2c but... SD compliant AVCHD is the REAL AVCHD and I'm almost there. And it can support menus - I got samples with menues and created SD samples w/o menues with Panasonic's HDwriter. Menus won't show on your TV (don't know for the BDP) - but they can be in the structure. As I earlier posted - this true AVCHD is really complex structure but will work in the end.That great to hear Dean :)

[herrde]

herrde
Can you send me example of such file?

Just e-mailed you an example file to info@smartlabs.tv !

Best,

Gero

[Rodger]

It is absolutely UNBELIEVABLE how someone can discuss a program to become compliant to specifications.

What on earth are you thinking? Just imagine that would happen to every program existing?

It can´t be true you are sugguesting what´s done is done and we´ll have to live with an error made before forever.

I don´t know where this is leaving to but I will follow it as I know it is the only way because it is true.

First comes the specification, second comes the workaround for players which I will have to find out (again) if Samsung/Panasonic didn´t program the firmware of my players correctly. But I shouldn´t have any problems since it is stated they play AVCHD.

Again...there absolutely can´t be anything wrong with tsmuxer becoming compliant to AVCHD specifications.
That has to kill and will kill lots of lots of workarounds because the players will get to play what they are told to. AVCHD !!!

If they don´t NOW you have something in the hand to discuss when contacting the manuafturer and you´ll have a REALIABLE basis to get to workarounds.

[Rodger]

Just my 2c but... SD compliant AVCHD is the REAL AVCHD and I'm almost there. And it can support menus - I got samples with menues and created SD samples w/o menues with Panasonic's HDwriter. Menus won't show on your TV (don't know for the BDP) - but they can be in the structure. As I earlier posted - this true AVCHD is really complex structure but will work in the end.

I´m always willing to test for you! Just upload it and I´ll try.
I have three players...
Panasonic DMP-BD30 - Software V2.3
Samsung BD-P1400 - Software 19.12.2008 (planning on giving that one away)
Samsung BD-P2500 - Software 17.12.2008

But discussing that should be another thread, right?

[MadMonkey57]

tsMuxeR_1.9.7(b) (http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.9.7(b).zip) + avchd output (i.e without non avchd dirs) on red laser DVD is working fine on Panasonic BD35

[roman76r]

I slightly uppdated tsMuxer:
www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.9.7(b).zip

Change list:
- now video resolution field in CLPI file always filled. Previus versions does not filled this field for cropped video.

[Atak_Snajpera]

I slightly uppdated tsMuxer:
www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.9.7(b).zip
I can't wait to see 'sup resizing' option :)

[BlackJack1]

Where can I find changing list for version tsMuxeR_1.9.6(b) and tsMuxeR_1.9.7(b)?

[Discoboy]

Where can I find changing list for version tsMuxeR_1.9.6(b) and tsMuxeR_1.9.7(b)?

1.9.6b = http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1272550#post1272550

1.9.7b = 2 posts up #3269

[fifteen]

You've got my vote for continuing to make tsmuxer more to spec.

It makes sense. It's the only way that you can ensure that future players will accept the current media you are authoring.

[Discoboy]

tsMuxeR_1.9.7(b) (http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.9.7(b).zip) + avchd output (i.e without non avchd dirs) on red laser DVD is working fine on Panasonic BD35

Also working fine for me on a BD55

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hi all,

Would the following selectivity options be easier for users to understand: -

http://i41.tinypic.com/10zwrcn.png


Cheers

[laserfan]

Hi all,

Would the following selectivity options be easier for users to understand: -

http://i41.tinypic.com/10zwrcn.pngOnly IMO if it were accompanied by a clear description of what the heck those different options mean! ;)

For all the threads I've attempted to follow here about BD vs. BD-on-DVD5/9 vs. AVCHD it's not at all clear to me what the precise differences are. Wish someone could summarize in English I can understand--wanna take a crack at it SMD? :D

I just know that I can presently burn tsMuxeR's Blu-ray output onto DVD-5/9 discs, both SD and HD, and they play-back as BD discs on my standalone player (LG BH200) so I am happy.

[deank]

He meant SD as SecureDigital (card) not Standard Definition.

[herrde]

I just know that I can presently burn tsMuxeR's Blu-ray output onto DVD-5/9 discs, both SD and HD, and they play-back as BD discs on my standalone player (LG BH200) so I am happy.

Not anymore. In the newer versions of tsmuxer, you would have to select "AVCHD" and not "Blu-ray" output if you want to burn the output on a DVD 5/9. See my post here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1272141#post1272141

@SeeMoreDigital: Your new "options" could confuse a user who wants to do AVCHD output on USB media. Maybe he wouldn't know which option to choose...

Best,

Gero

[laserfan]

He meant SD as SecureDigital (card) not Standard Definition.Oh, my--I'd never have interpreted SD as THAT! Maybe SMD's not the right guy to clarify this after all! :D

[Mtz]

I vote also for SMD options. Maybe the word "to" will confuse the user that tsmuxer is doing some conversion and because of that, maybe "on" will be better that "to".

I made a small test on my TViX for 2 files:
1920x816 > Blu-Ray > TViX working OK
1820x1080 > Blu-Ray > TViX crashed > reboot > crash again

Maybe is a bug in their firmware or maybe some things are made different by tsmuxer when creating output for 816 and for 1080.

enjoy,
Mtz

[deank]

For all the threads I've attempted to follow here about BD vs. BD-on-DVD5/9 vs. AVCHD it's not at all clear to me what the precise differences are. Wish someone could summarize in English I can understand...

1st thing to be known is this: THE ONLY difference between AVCHD and BLU-RAY output from tsmuxer is the index.bdmv file + in some of the latest versions these options differ also with the removal of non-AVCHD folders when using --avchd mode.

Few things a user should consider before using either of the output modes.

1st) If earlier versions of tsmuxer (only --blu-ray switch present) worked for you, then now use --blu-ray again and patch the output with goBD (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/goBD-tool.exe) or AVCHD-patcher.

2nd) Find out if your player *really* supports AVCHD - check its user manual. (if earlier versions of tsmuxer worked - it supports it).

If it does, you shouldn't have problems using the new tsmuxer with --avchd option if you burn the output to DVD.

If it doesn't - then you'll have to use --blu-ray mode and burn the content to BD-R(E) disc or DVD.

3rd) If you're going to use SDHC card, MemoryStick card or USB then always go for the --avchd mode and *always* set filenames to 8.3 format (using AVCHD Manager or AVCHDme).

4th) The tricks with removing CERTIFICATE or AUXDATA folders are related to a set of players that support AVCHD but if they see such folders on your disc will refuse to play it, because they 'think' it is BD, not AVCHD. On the other hand - another set of players which does not support AVCHD will refuse to play your files if these folders are not present (and if you didn't use the new --blu-ray mode).

These various options are now added in multiAVCHD, too.

[fifteen]

Not anymore. In the newer versions of tsmuxer, you would have to select "AVCHD" and not "Blu-ray" output if you want to burn the output on a DVD 5/9.

That's simply for the PS3. Right? It's a way of hacking around PS3's media detection...

So for standalone disc (BD5/BD9 or BDR/E) Bluray is always good, except for PS3 which will only work with (BDR/E).

[idbirch2]

I wish some people would stop bitching about TSMuxer trying to conform a bit better to standards. Having found workarounds and written guides based on a flawed solution is not grounds for permanently sticking to it. OK, so you now have to work out which of the 2 output modes is best suited to your player again - wow, nightmare, that's a whole 2 tests you have to do. Get over it.

[ACrowley]

Ive a strange Problem.

MY whole System freezes after a while when i use TSmuxer to demux Tracks from Bluray M2TS ? I cant remember that older Version had the same Problmes here ?
I use Vista x64 SP1 , 4GB Ram. SATA 300 is active everthing else works fine

Maybe its caused by async i/o ?

Muxing into TS/M2TS works fine, MKV de/remuxing too

[laserfan]

1st thing to be known is this: THE ONLY difference between AVCHD and BLU-RAY output from tsmuxer is the index.bdmv file + in some of the latest versions these options differ also with the removal of non-AVCHD folders when using --avchd mode.

Few things a user should consider before using either of the output modes.

1st) If earlier versions of tsmuxer (only --blu-ray switch present) worked for you, then now use --blu-ray again and patch the output with goBD (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/goBD-tool.exe) or AVCHD-patcher.

2nd) Find out if your player *really* supports AVCHD - check its user manual. (if earlier versions of tsmuxer worked - it supports it).

If it does, you shouldn't have problems using the new tsmuxer with --avchd option if you burn the output to DVD.

If it doesn't - then you'll have to use --blu-ray mode and burn the content to BD-R(E) disc or DVD.

3rd) If you're going to use SDHC card, MemoryStick card or USB then always go for the --avchd mode and *always* set filenames to 8.3 format (using AVCHD Manager or AVCHDme).

4th) The tricks with removing CERTIFICATE or AUXDATA folders are related to a set of players that support AVCHD but if they see such folders on your disc will refuse to play it, because they 'think' it is BD, not AVCHD. On the other hand - another set of players which does not support AVCHD will refuse to play your files if these folders are not present (and if you didn't use the new --blu-ray mode).

These various options are now added in multiAVCHD, too.Maybe I'm lazy, or thick, but I'm still (very) confused.

I want to come at the question from another pov, that of the disc and playback one needs to work, in my case DVD-5/9 (red laser). My sense is that AVCHD was designed for camcorder usage and thus red laser. Further that it needs to accommodate FAT32 limitations re: filesize. So I think I'm hearing that AVCHD has the best chance of working with home-brew discs and standalone Blu-ray players. Yes? But I guess you've said too there is AVCHD with normal filenames and AVCHD using 8.3 only.

Next, it seems that Blu-ray disc format (BDMV/CERTIFICATE et. al.) works on red laser discs with a lot of players (mine included) but not all i.e. some players see that format and expect it to be on a BD disc, not a DVD-5/9. Still other players refuse to play homebrew discs at all.

I don't understand either why I should "patch my BD output" with the new tsMuxeR--it's doing something different/incorrect from earlier versions? I'm "only" using 1.9.4 atm. With 1.9.7 my discs will stop working?

I appreciate your efforts to educate deank but maybe I'm a lost cause here...!

[Rodger]

Ive a strange Problem.

MY whole System freezes after a while when i use TSmuxer to demux Tracks from Bluray M2TS ? I cant remember that older Version had the same Problmes here ?
I use Vista x64 SP1 , 4GB Ram. SATA 300 is active everthing else works fine

Maybe its caused by async i/o ?

Muxing into TS/M2TS works fine, MKV de/remuxing too

Nope definetly problem on your computer.
Demuxed several M2TS from harddisk AND from DVD-RW DL today.
Never freezed or showed ANY sign to do so.

[deank]

My sense is that AVCHD ... needs to accommodate FAT32 limitations. So I think I'm hearing that AVCHD has the best chance of working with home-brew discs and standalone Blu-ray players. Yes? But I guess you've said too there is AVCHD with normal filenames and AVCHD using 8.3 only.

Yes, AVCHD is the home-version of BDMV and, yes, if you use optical media then your files will not be 8.3 but normal.

Next, it seems that Blu-ray disc format (BDMV/CERTIFICATE et. al.) works on red laser discs with a lot of players (mine included) but not all i.e. some players see that format and expect it to be on a BD disc, not a DVD-5/9. Still other players refuse to play homebrew discs at all.

Right.

I don't understand either why I should "patch my BD output" with the new tsMuxeR--it's doing something different/incorrect from earlier versions? I'm "only" using 1.9.4 atm. With 1.9.7 my discs will stop working?

Yes, they will if your player doesn't support real BD format on DVD. New tsmuxer isn't doing anything incorrect, but the opposite.

[SeeMoreDigital]

For all the threads I've attempted to follow here about BD vs. BD-on-DVD5/9 vs. AVCHD it's not at all clear to me what the precise differences are. Wish someone could summarize in English I can understand--wanna take a crack at it SMD? :DIf you say, capture some video using a Sony or Panasonic "AVCHD SD" camcorder and insert the SD card into your PC and look at file extensions, you'll notice they're different to a Blu-ray disc.... For example: -

The "BDMV" folder contains an "INDEX.BDM" file and "MOVIEOBJ.BDM" file, instead of an "index.bdmv" file and "MovieObject.bdmv" file.

The "CLIPINF" folder contains an ".CPI" file, instead of an ".clpi" file.

The "PLAYLIST" folder contains an ".MPL" file, instead of an ".mpls" file.

And the "STREAM" folder contains ".MTS" files, instead of ".m2ts" files.

.... And that's just some of the differences between the files. The "Folder" structure/layout is different too!

I vote also for SMD options. Maybe the word "to" will confuse the user that tsmuxer is doing some conversion and because of that, maybe "on" will be better that "to".So something like this then: -

http://i44.tinypic.com/24dm1xj.png


Cheers

[herrde]

That's simply for the PS3. Right? It's a way of hacking around PS3's media detection...

So for standalone disc (BD5/BD9 or BDR/E) Bluray is always good, except for PS3 which will only work with (BDR/E).

Can't really tell because I only have a PS3, no other stand-alone... but as the PS3 actually HAS this media detection, chances are that other SAP's might have it too... so I guess you should first find out if your player supports AVCHD. If it does, you should use Blu-ray output only if you are actually burning to BD media, but if you're using DVD5/9 media, you should use AVCHD output.
And well, if your SAP doesn't support AVCHD, you're limited to use "Blu-ray output" anyway...

Best,

Gero

[adalbertoma]

Deank,

I've been reading all your responses to other users. Thanks for being such a great helper.

Now I got 2 quick questions for you:

1 - Is the AVCHD output option on the new versions of TSMuxer 100% compatible with the PS3?

2 - Is the crop undo thing still being worked by the TSMuxer author? Any chances for us to get this function on a near release?

Thanks!

[vcarter]

hi

2 - Is the crop undo thing still being worked by the TSMuxer author? Any chances for us to get this function on a near release?

here's the first part of the response
from roman

I have bad news. Seemingly is not possible to modify H.264 stream correctly for restore cropped frame.
I made this function but it does not work.

and the second

from roman
I think there is another way to solve the problem with cropped video. It is a BD-J technology

but from now you can use the great uncropMKV from deank.

just make an mkv with ripbot or else,then use uncropMKV,or use your h264 file (demux with tsmuxer) in a soft like XviD4PSP and add black borders.

but be care cause someone on the forum begin to ask you why you get a cropped mkv or why you work on a bd with cropped resolutions,and you finish to be banned cause it's a b.....d

@+

[deank]

Deank,

1 - Is the AVCHD output option on the new versions of TSMuxer 100% compatible with the PS3?

2 - Is the crop undo thing still being worked by the TSMuxer author? Any chances for us to get this function on a near release?

1) Yes, it is. The only thing you'll need to do (as before) is to rename files to 8.3 if you're going to use usb/sd/ms.

2) There were three ways to do it: with adding slices to h.264 stream, with employing PIP and 3rd with BD-J. I'm not a speaker of roman, nor I know what he's planning but may be we'll find some sort of a solution.

Dean

[ACrowley]

Nope definetly problem on your computer.
Demuxed several M2TS from harddisk AND from DVD-RW DL today.
Never freezed or showed ANY sign to do so.

wait..not so fast:)

As i say, i can do everything with TSmuxer. but it freezes "sometimes" (very rarely)on untouched M2TS from BluRay when "demux" some Tracks.

It works with older Verions on those Files and with other Tools/Methods. Also it seems to works with async i/o disabled

So i dont think its only caused by my System....

[vcarter]

1) Yes, it is. The only thing you'll need to do (as before) is to rename files to 8.3 if you're going to use usb/sd/ms.

2) There were three ways to do it: with adding slices to h.264 stream, with employing PIP and 3rd with BD-J. I'm not a speaker of roman, nor I know what he's planning but may be we'll find some sort of a solution.

Dean

why is there the 4 GB limitation if i put my avchd on a usb/sd/ms?
i looked for faq abour avchdme,and found this limitation.

so if i put files on a dvd (bd9),it's ok,but not with usb/sd/ms ???!!

please deank can you confirm this.

may be we'll find some sort of a solution

for sure if talentuous dev work together,everyone would win.

@+

[deank]

why is there the 4 GB limitation if i put my avchd on a usb/sd/ms?

please deank can you confirm this.

Usually USB flash drives, SD cards and MemoryStick cards use (are formatted in) FAT32 standard. It doesn't allow files bigger than 4GiB - that's why you have limitations.

NTFS (for HDDs) and UDF 2.50/2.60 (for DVD/BD) support larger than 4GiB files, but as you know PS3 can't read NTFS on external (usb) hdd - that's why you need FAT32 and all that comes with its limitations.

[gizzin]

I understand the differences between avchd and blueray. But this will be something really confusing for the end user. Because something works, and somethings don't with certain players. Mostly what turbojet was saying. What happens when implementing menus on dvd5/9 using avchd, blueray options? BD-J isn't possible on avchd right? We will certainly have to keep track of what works on what players. I really liked the idea of having full bd backups on dvd media...

[Rodger]

wait..not so fast:)

As i say, i can do everything with TSmuxer. but it freezes "sometimes" (very rarely)on untouched M2TS from BluRay when "demux" some Tracks.

It works with older Verions on those Files and with other Tools/Methods. Also it seems to works with async i/o disabled

So i dont think its only caused by my System....

Aaah....you shouldn´t do so EVER. That is known!
First rip to harddisk via anydvdHD then demux or run dgavcindex.

I wouldn´t even test the way you do, because it´s stupid to me. It´ll totally reduce the working speed of my bd-drive
As I may tell you the Asus BC-06B1ST kills my old Pioneer BDC-202BK as it is more than two times the speed of the pioneer.

[pleinlesyeux]

Hello,

I'm sorry but what would be the purpose of "uncropped h264" for tsmuxer ?

I assumed H264 BD were 1080p...

[Wishbringer]

Hello,

I'm sorry but what would be the purpose of "uncropped h264" for tsmuxer ?

I assumed H264 BD were 1080p...

Yes, with black borders at some 2.35:1 or 4:3 movies.
So for example you have to add borders to left and right when reencoding some 4:3 DVD movies, even when resized to 1080 height.

[guillome]

Hello there =)

I've noticed that with the new version 1.9.1, when using tsmuxer for example to mux a MKV+SRT file to M2TS, TS, bluray, etc., the resulted PGS subtitle inside will now be displayed with italics if html tags where used into the SRT, pretty sure this wasn't there before! thank you this is really useful:)

So i'm wondering if you would be ready to take this a step further with tags that allow to (exceptionally) modify the position of the displayed sub.
This technique is getting used a lot by fansubbers of TV shows and is used especially when the subtitles would get on top of other info (like if you watch Desperate Housewives *sic* where the list of credited producers lasts for several minutes...)

here's a SRT file that contains some: http://paste2.org/p/183095
ex: 2
00:00:03,170 --> 00:00:04,335
{\pos(290,260)}Vous êtes l'un d'eux ?

and pic of the result played in MPC:
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2721/mpchctest.th.png (http://img22.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mpchctest.png)

and that what happens when SRT is played by a player that doesn't support these tags: (a TViX, which at least filters them, unlike many others!)
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/1893/dsc00261j.th.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00261j.jpg)

That's all... Sorry i know it's not cool to to a request on the 1st post :rolleyes:

ps: i apologize for my poor english :/

[ACrowley]

Aaah....you shouldn´t do so EVER. That is known!
First rip to harddisk via anydvdHD then demux or run dgavcindex.

I wouldn´t even test the way you do, because it´s stupid to me. It´ll totally reduce the working speed of my bd-drive
As I may tell you the Asus BC-06B1ST kills my old Pioneer BDC-202BK as it is more than two times the speed of the pioneer.

really ?:rolleyes: Do you think im so stupid ?

Is only use already decyrpted M2TS :)
Waht I mean with "untouched" is= not reencoded and or Remuxed M2TS Streams (but ofcourse already decrypted to HDD via AnyDVD)

[rapscallion]

I've noticed in the Tsmuxer output (BR or avchd) that Clipinf Editor shows a packet discrepancy between the clipinf and M2TS stream on every backup I've done in the past 2 weeks.

On a short test muxe, ~15-30 min it's fine/matches, but on a full movie, I get the discrepancy

Do you folks click on "Fix length" to correct this, ignore it, or don't bother checking ?
Am I just being overly picky here?

Edit : BTW, he states that on his PS3 the discrepancy can cause a pause,skip.
However he's not tested on another standalone BR player.

Info : Here (http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=26930)