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Atak_Snajpera
13th July 2010, 21:08
@clsid
can you update http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow-tryout/ page to r3512 ?
Midzuki
13th July 2010, 21:55
Uncheck "closed captions" in the subtitle options and the problem is solved.
[ revision 3507 ]
Uncheck ALL the subtitle options,
and
the
problem
REMAINS. :mad:
BTW,
what would the big horrible "sin" in removing the
subtype MEDIASUBTYPE_DVD_SUBPICTURE
from the filters "Raw Video" and "Subtitles" ???
clsid
13th July 2010, 22:09
You are correct. It does not work for the raw filter. It used to work if I remember correctly, so it might be a regression, possibly after the recent subtitle changes. Test some older builds as well.
But removing the mediatypes won't fix it! And even if it did, they won't be removed since in some cases we do want the filter to handle subtitles. Internally something goes wrong in the code that accepts/denies pin connection. MPC external filter settings allows you to edit/remove mediatypes of any filter. If you remove the subpictive and catch-all video mediatype you will see it still doesn't work.
jhoff80
15th July 2010, 02:49
So, I've been messing around with DXVA again for the first time in a long time, and have noticed that some (very old) x264 encodes apparently pass the compatibility checks (which are set to normal), but are constantly displaying small green squares and exhibit general blockiness throughout. Turning DXVA off plays them perfectly.
These are SD video encoded from DVD, so I really thought that there wouldn't be any problem.
All of the much more recently encoded files are playing perfectly, but this older stuff is showing issues. Is there any way to have even stricter checks to make sure that the video will play right? I mean, they're SD, so I really don't mind that much if they have to play without DXVA, I'd just really like them to be detected automatically so I don't have to switch back and forth.
I'm using an ATI 4850 with the newest 10.6 Catalyst drivers. I had similar issues when I first tried DXVA a long time ago with MPC-HC and an older (though still ATI - could that be part of it?) video card, but had hoped the issues were worked out by now.
magic144
15th July 2010, 04:00
just to report - this bug seems to have been cured since I installed build 3507 - thank you again!!
Hmmm, whilst clsid's build 3498 seems to allow h.264 DXVA content to work, apparently VC-1 content (via DXVA ONLY) causes an app-crash due to libavcodec.dll... only just noticed this whilst trying to play BBC's LIFE disc!
again, non-DXVA seems to be unaffected here
build 3483 seems immune to this problem
Guest
15th July 2010, 05:54
Rather than issue rule 4 strikes I removed some posts and edited others. Let's remain civil please. Thanks!
nevcairiel
15th July 2010, 07:33
These are SD video encoded from DVD, so I really thought that there wouldn't be any problem.
ATIs DXVA implementation is buggy with SD content. MPC-HC for example has a flag in its DXVA codec to disable it for SD content. Not sure if ffdshow has the same.
davidsama
15th July 2010, 07:58
How do i get svn 3512 since it is not on the ffdshow download page?
Shark007
15th July 2010, 12:02
How do i get svn 3512 since it is not on the ffdshow download page?
mediafire.com by xhmikosr (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=3f33c77c2cf9ce25ab1eab3e9fa335ca95e79d7d0540e1e1)
Midzuki
15th July 2010, 22:45
Another, uh, "interesting finding". :p IF mpeg-2 decoder == ArcSoft, AND player == WMP 9, THEN the subpicture stream is sent to ffdshow video decoder :mad: , AND this latter refuses connecting to VMR9. :eek:
N.B.: Unticking the checkbox "DVD decoding" in ffdshow blocks *only* the video input pin, *not* the "generic" one. http://forum.videohelp.com/attachments/2671-1279232225/uglylol.gif
davidsama
15th July 2010, 23:37
What is the difference between the icl 10 and icl 11 versions of ffdshow?
jhoff80
16th July 2010, 01:08
ATIs DXVA implementation is buggy with SD content. MPC-HC for example has a flag in its DXVA codec to disable it for SD content. Not sure if ffdshow has the same.
Thanks for the info, maybe something like that is necessary in ffdshow if not already present.
fitbrit
16th July 2010, 03:18
I'm posting on behalf of JimH at jriver dotcom from the J. River Media Center people:
===========================
Thanks to jmone, who pointed us here.
Thanks to the devs for great software.
We may have found a minor problem. Our developer, Yaobing talked about it in this thread.
ffdshow and J. River Media Center bug (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=58624.msg396632#msg396632)
===========================
Could one of you wizards comment or check it out, please?
J. River Media Center is great software, and I'd love to be able to use ffdshow with it flawlessly. It and MPC-HC are the only playback programs I've allowed on my HTPCs for years. Thanks again.
leeperry
16th July 2010, 03:21
I see a lot of work on subs lately, but it still seems impossible to ignore SSA styles/colors? I use a DLP pj, white subs are a RBE feast...ah well, I've always been forced to convert to SRT...KMPlayer's built-in subs engine can ignore SSA styling FWIW, too bad mVR isn't compatible due to the lack of subs pin.
I really need all my subs to look like this: http://thumbnails14.imagebam.com/8879/4c45ab88782199.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/4c45ab88782199)
jmone
16th July 2010, 05:06
I'm posting on behalf of JimH at jriver dotcom from the J. River Media Center people:
===========================
Thanks to jmone, who pointed us here.
Thanks to the devs for great software.
We may have found a minor problem. Our developer, Yaobing talked about it in this thread.
ffdshow and J. River Media Center bug (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=58624.msg396632#msg396632)
===========================
Could one of you wizards comment or check it out, please?
J. River Media Center is great software, and I'd love to be able to use ffdshow with it flawlessly. It and MPC-HC are the only playback programs I've allowed on my HTPCs for years. Thanks again.
Here are some technical details from Yaobing (a J.River Dev):
We look for IAMStreamSelect interface so we can let user pick which stream to play. Normally, this interface is exposed by a source filter or a splitter filter. Haali Media Splitter does it well. When we can not find the interface on the source filter, we go to the next filter, which often is a splitter filter. If that still fails, we try looking for the interface on any filter by enumeration. FFDShow could be found in either the second stage or the third stage. It tells us that it supports IAMStreamSelect, and returns a pointer to it. When we call the interface function IAMStreamSelect::Count(), FFDShow crashes.
I too am a big J.River MC fan and am trying to use FFDSHOW for all Video and Audio decoding.
Thanks
Nathan
oddball
16th July 2010, 06:58
I have an issue when trying to deinterlace MPEG2 DVD's with mixed progressive and interlaced. I have them muxed into either MKV or .TS. All is well if just plain progressive obviously. But when I have interlaced mixed in I have to tick deinterlace and tick 'Process frames flagged as progressive' which leads to ugly artifacts when not wanted. I have a problem PAL source that does not seem to flag up the interlaced portions so even if deinterlace is ticked it does not deinterlace it until I tick the 'Process frames flagged as progressive' option. I don't suppose there is any way around this (Other than to leave in vobs instead of remuxing)?
shaolin95
17th July 2010, 04:39
Simple question guys...what do I select for DTS (like libdts, etc) for best audio quality and any other setting you can think off?
I play my ripped Blurays, some have True HD but others are DTS HD. Either way I decode them with my computer and send the analog output to my Harman Kardon receiver since it does not decode HD formats.
Thanks for any tips to get the most out of the audio experience
Regards
fitbrit
17th July 2010, 06:39
Simple question guys...what do I select for DTS (like libdts, etc) for best audio quality and any other setting you can think off?
I play my ripped Blurays, some have True HD but others are DTS HD. Either way I decode them with my computer and send the analog output to my Harman Kardon receiver since it does not decode HD formats.
Thanks for any tips to get the most out of the audio experience
Regards
I don't know the answer to your best audio quality question. However, for the second part, I believe that ffdshow doesn't currently decode DTS-HD. Rather it just decodes the core regular DTS track and sends that via LPCM. How are you connected to your HK receiver? Is it via multiple RCA connections, SPDIF or LPCM-only HDMI? Only the multiple analog connections or the LPCM over HDMI will give you the HD sound for TrueHD. SPDIF cannot transmit more than 2 channel LPCM.
Snowknight26
17th July 2010, 08:13
Any word on the broken Fraps (bgr24) decoding?
LigH
17th July 2010, 11:32
ffdshow rev.3488 2010-06-28 SSE ICL11 (xvidvideo.ru), AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+, Windows XP SP3, GeForce 6800 GS
When playing a 1080i video (either with the ffdshow internal AVC decoder - or with DiAVC, post-processing its YV12 output) and scaling down to fit in a 1600x1200 desktop, adding Noise results in especially heavy noise from about 60% of the width in the right half, with increasing strength towards the right border.
Already happened months and years ago, but eventually I tracked it down to a rather reliably reproducable example.
ColorBars_1080i.png (http://www.ligh.de/pics/ColorBars_1080i.png) | PoP-SoT.png (http://www.ligh.de/pics/PoP-SoT.png) | ffdshow_noise.png (http://www.ligh.de/pics/ffdshow_noise.png)
mark0077
17th July 2010, 15:11
Hi, Noticed a problem with build 3488 and mpc-hc 2099, using ffdshow audio and video. The audio and subtitle stream details are appearing under the ffdshow decoder menu. See screenshow. Is this a bug in mpc or ffdshow?
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1923/ffdshowbug.th.jpg (http://img62.imageshack.us/i/ffdshowbug.jpg/)
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This is with a blu-ray, michael jackson this is it, m2ts file.
shaolin95
17th July 2010, 17:03
I don't know the answer to your best audio quality question. However, for the second part, I believe that ffdshow doesn't currently decode DTS-HD. Rather it just decodes the core regular DTS track and sends that via LPCM. How are you connected to your HK receiver? Is it via multiple RCA connections, SPDIF or LPCM-only HDMI? Only the multiple analog connections or the LPCM over HDMI will give you the HD sound for TrueHD. SPDIF cannot transmit more than 2 channel LPCM.
Thanks, so do you think it uses the DTS one to decode that Core DTS thus using libdts or the other should be make a difference?
leeperry
17th July 2010, 17:24
The audio and subtitle stream details are appearing under the ffdshow decoder menu. See screenshow. Is this a bug
it's a feature http://forum-images.hardware.fr/images/perso/poussahpensif.gif
mark0077
18th July 2010, 10:56
Lol audio and no video info under video section..... Not good
STaRGaZeR
19th July 2010, 01:01
Time for some testing :)
I've made a build with the following changes:
- Revert to the old autosize formula (before r3427). The new one matches VSFilter, but only takes into account video height for the calculation. The subs will look smaller after you update, set your preferred font size again. Letterbox and subs+resize will work like before r3427.
- Added options for overriding ASS styling. They're in the font section. They have tooltips, should be easy to understand what they do.
- Edited an option in the placement section, it allows you to override ASS positioning. The \pos(x,y) tags are always honored, this is because if you put \pos tags it means you want that sub in a specific position, not in the generic one.
- Cosmetics.
Enabling everything in the ASS override section plus the ASS positioning override should make ASS subs look like SRT. If there are more important things to override just tell me about them.
Please test and report any findings, bugs, whatever before I commit it. It works for everything I've thrown at it, but as always there are crazy scripts and situations out there.
ICL11 build: http://www.mediafire.com/?z8o8182a3yuafub
davidsama
19th July 2010, 02:17
Stargazer that 3512 build shows only a grey screen in media player classic 107 with no video or audio in ripbot 1.16.0. It also only outputs a video file the same way.
fitbrit
19th July 2010, 05:18
Thanks, so do you think it uses the DTS one to decode that Core DTS thus using libdts or the other should be make a difference?
I'm afraid I don't know the answer to that. Now that I bitstream everything, I'm averse to playing with settings to test this out.
dann23
19th July 2010, 16:21
Time for some testing :)
I've made a build with the following changes:
- Revert to the old autosize formula (before r3427). The new one matches VSFilter, but only takes into account video height for the calculation. The subs will look smaller after you update, set your preferred font size again. Letterbox and subs+resize will work like before r3427.
- Added options for overriding ASS styling. They're in the font section. They have tooltips, should be easy to understand what they do.
- Edited an option in the placement section, it allows you to override ASS positioning. The \pos(x,y) tags are always honored, this is because if you put \pos tags it means you want that sub in a specific position, not in the generic one.
- Cosmetics.
Enabling everything in the ASS override section plus the ASS positioning override should make ASS subs look like SRT. If there are more important things to override just tell me about them.
Please test and report any findings, bugs, whatever before I commit it. It works for everything I've thrown at it, but as always there are crazy scripts and situations out there.
ICL11 build: http://www.mediafire.com/?z8o8182a3yuafub
finally. right now I didn't found any problems. but I have a request. Now if the movie has internal subtitles and there is also an external subtitle present, than the external subtitle has priority. Please add an option to enable the old behaviour.
Thank you.
leeperry
19th July 2010, 17:44
I've made a build with the following changes: [..]
- Added options for overriding ASS styling. They're in the font section. They have tooltips, should be easy to understand what they do.
very nice feature, thank you! just two things, if I may:
1)-ffdshow allows you to choose the smoothing method for BD/DVD, but not for text subs...this is a tad too blurry for CRT/DLP: http://thumbnails29.imagebam.com/8924/88466d89239314.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/88466d89239314)
KMP has many smoothing/AA methods to overcome this problem: http://thumbnails32.imagebam.com/8925/06f2cf89241025.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/06f2cf89241025)
It's like Cleartype(which is essentially a LCD-only technology) there's no "one-size-fits-all" smoothing method that will work equally well on CRT/DLP/LCD. Blurry subs look even blurrier when projected on a large screen using a DLP pj. And I'd guess that glossy or antiglare LCD screens might also benefit from different smoothing settings.
It'd be nice to have a "smoothing" slider, so you could choose between GDI-like and gaussian blurry to finetune it depending on your taste and the gear you use...like it's apparently possible for BD/DVD subpictures.
2)- It'd be nice to be able to force italic/bold/underlined subs, I personally like them yellow/italic w/ the thinnest shadow possible.
KMP also allows you to enable either of those 3: http://thumbnails26.imagebam.com/8925/9056e689242175.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/9056e689242175)
I know it iritates ppl when I point out how things work in KMP, but its subs support is almost perfect. :thanks:
Sebastiii
19th July 2010, 20:10
Time for some testing :)
I've made a build with the following changes:
- Revert to the old autosize formula (before r3427). The new one matches VSFilter, but only takes into account video height for the calculation. The subs will look smaller after you update, set your preferred font size again. Letterbox and subs+resize will work like before r3427.
- Added options for overriding ASS styling. They're in the font section. They have tooltips, should be easy to understand what they do.
- Edited an option in the placement section, it allows you to override ASS positioning. The \pos(x,y) tags are always honored, this is because if you put \pos tags it means you want that sub in a specific position, not in the generic one.
- Cosmetics.
Enabling everything in the ASS override section plus the ASS positioning override should make ASS subs look like SRT. If there are more important things to override just tell me about them.
Please test and report any findings, bugs, whatever before I commit it. It works for everything I've thrown at it, but as always there are crazy scripts and situations out there.
ICL11 build: http://www.mediafire.com/?z8o8182a3yuafub
Cool, i'm happy to test this release :)
Thanks,
Seb.
STaRGaZeR
19th July 2010, 20:17
Stargazer that 3512 build shows only a grey screen in media player classic 107 with no video or audio in ripbot 1.16.0. It also only outputs a video file the same way.
I haven't done anything that would cause such behaviour.
finally. right now I didn't found any problems. but I have a request. Now if the movie has internal subtitles and there is also an external subtitle present, than the external subtitle has priority. Please add an option to enable the old behaviour.
Thank you.
Try with the option "Subtitle files" in the tray, dialog & paths tab. albain changed that, I've not used it yet so I'm not sure what it does. However it should be in the subtitles section and not there IMO.
very nice feature, thank you! just two things, if I may:
1)-ffdshow allows you to choose the smoothing method for BD/DVD, but not for text subs...this is a tad too blurry for CRT/DLP: http://thumbnails29.imagebam.com/8924/88466d89239314.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/88466d89239314)
KMP has many smoothing/AA methods to overcome this problem: http://thumbnails32.imagebam.com/8925/06f2cf89241025.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/06f2cf89241025)
It's like Cleartype(which is essentially a LCD-only technology) there's no "one-size-fits-all" smoothing method that will work equally well on CRT/DLP/LCD. Blurry subs look even blurrier when projected on a large screen using a DLP pj. And I'd guess that glossy or antiglare LCD screens might also benefit from different smoothing settings.
It'd be nice to have a "smoothing" slider, so you could choose between GDI-like and gaussian blurry to finetune it depending on your taste and the gear you use...like it's apparently possible for BD/DVD subpictures.
2)- It'd be nice to be able to force italic/bold/underlined subs, I personally like them yellow/italic w/ the thinnest shadow possible.
KMP also allows you to enable either of those 3: http://thumbnails26.imagebam.com/8925/9056e689242175.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/9056e689242175)
I know it iritates ppl when I point out how things work in KMP, but its subs support is almost perfect. :thanks:
I also hate how blur is done in ffdshow, but I haven't looked at it yet. And I don't know if I have the skills to do proper AA. I want to AA the subs, not blur them to death like the option does now. In fact, with white body and black outline, with blur the white is not white anymore, and that sucks. I can't imagine how bad it looks in a DLP, which is a blurry mess.
I'll add options for italic and underline, bold is already present (weight).
leeperry
19th July 2010, 20:59
I also hate how blur is done in ffdshow, but I haven't looked at it yet. And I don't know if I have the skills to do proper AA. I want to AA the subs, not blur them to death like the option does now. In fact, with white body and black outline, with blur the white is not white anymore, and that sucks. I can't imagine how bad it looks in a DLP, which is a blurry mess.
I'll add options for italic and underline, bold is already present (weight).
OK, cool! well I'd prefer a GDI option over blurry AA tbh...I don't think DLP is blurry per se, my HC3100 definitely doesn't look blurry(the pic was shot by Kazuya on his own HC3100): http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/4649/dsc3484resize.jpg
nor does my trusty LG F900B CRT...it's just that Cleartype-like AA really doesn't work on those technologies. One thing's for sure antiglare coatings on LCD's do blur the picture to death: http://www.hoobie7.com/Computer%20Mod%20Stuff/DIYPJ/DIYPJ2.html
but it's essentially due to the fact that there's 3 sub-pixels one on top of the other w/ some heavy post-processing that Cleartype does improve clarity I think(6/8bit dithering yada yada)..anyway I'd prefer getting edgy GDI fonts than the blurry mess it currently is if any possible :o
When it's blurry, it's harder to read and fatiguing because your brain constantly tries to focus...in vain :devil:
obieobieobie
20th July 2010, 01:47
Is the libavcodec Nellymoser implementation messed up?
magic144
20th July 2010, 06:16
Hi STaRGaZeR
just tried your new build 3512
problem I have reported with h.264 .mkv with embedded VobSub (bitmap) subs still persists, though I don't think you've specifically addressed it anyway.
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2981790&group_id=173941&atid=867360
1) If nobody talks for a while (no subs), subs don't reappear when dialogue finally continues
2) Placement (Letterbox) option to scale/maintain subs to e.g. 16:9 (no matter what the video/canvas size) seems very hit and miss (mostly miss, and almost always miss with DXVA variant) - this is possibly the same bug as reported here:-
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3029078&group_id=173941&atid=867360
thanks for continuing to look into this (all devs who have contributed!)
STaRGaZeR
20th July 2010, 09:30
Hi STaRGaZeR
just tried your new build 3512
problem I have reported with h.264 .mkv with embedded VobSub (bitmap) subs still persists, though I don't think you've specifically addressed it anyway.
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2981790&group_id=173941&atid=867360
1) If nobody talks for a while (no subs), subs don't reappear when dialogue finally continues
2) Placement (Letterbox) option to scale/maintain subs to e.g. 16:9 (no matter what the video/canvas size) seems very hit and miss (mostly miss, and almost always miss with DXVA variant) - this is possibly the same bug as reported here:-
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3029078&group_id=173941&atid=867360
thanks for continuing to look into this (all devs who have contributed!)
About the VobSub bug, it's normal, I didn't touch anything and never will, I know nothing about the format.
2. The letterbox bug you reported is not a bug: you can't use letterbox with DXVA. Why? Because it involves resizing, and you can't resize anything if you use DXVA. If you really want this you'll have to use software decoding.
I suppose you do have problems with letterbox if you use it with software decoding when you say "mostly miss"?
Gleb Egorych
20th July 2010, 10:42
Zoom Player and ffdshow video decoder b3507: when rightclick on ffdshow tray icon popup menu does not show up. Works in MPC-HC.
dimitrik
20th July 2010, 10:58
Using RGB32 output (colorspace conversion) seems to result in video delay especially in more demanding decoding e.g. x264 HD.
The strange thing is that CPU use is not that high, (between 40-70% per core - Athlon II x3 3GHz). I've seen this in other high spec CPU's (esp. AMD) - video delay without excessively high CPU use.
Does anyone know the reason for this? Is the colorspace conversion code very slow, does it use some specific part of the CPU that's bottlenecked or what?
Is there any chance that future revisions would address it?
magic144
20th July 2010, 14:10
@STaRGaZeR
thanks for the response - I figured you hadn't touched that stuff - is that albain's domain, or is nobody really looking at VobSub format subs?
As for "mostly miss", probably more to do with the "disappearing" issue. Certainly, Letterbox scaling of subs was seen to be working on the software-only decoder. Too bad about DXVA, but I can understand why I guess.
It's a shame, VobSub subs are *so* easy to generate from their BluRay parents (and significantly smaller) using e.g. BDSup2Sub, and require no torture in performing error-prone OCR! i.e. it's a brain-dead, turn-the-handle process... I guess I still need VSFilter in my toolbox... for now :-)
Thanks,
m
dann23
20th July 2010, 15:24
Try with the option "Subtitle files" in the tray, dialog & paths tab. albain changed that, I've not used it yet so I'm not sure what it does. However it should be in the subtitles section and not there IMO.
That option disables external subtitles. So it's not usefull. What I'm saying is that I want some option to choose the priority of subtitles. Right now ffdshow uses external subtitles if present and then embeded subtitles. So if I have a movie with embedded subtitles and there are present some external subtitles in the same folder, then the external subtitle is used, not the embedded one. And for me is very annoying.
Keiyakusha
20th July 2010, 15:32
So if I have a movie with embedded subtitles and there are present some external subtitles in the same folder, then the external subtitle is used, not the embedded one. And for me is very annoying.
Why do you have external subs if you not using them? Maybe move them to another (sub)folder and the problem is solved.
However adding option probably not bad idea.
STaRGaZeR
20th July 2010, 16:57
@STaRGaZeR
thanks for the response - I figured you hadn't touched that stuff - is that albain's domain, or is nobody really looking at VobSub format subs?
As for "mostly miss", probably more to do with the "disappearing" issue. Certainly, Letterbox scaling of subs was seen to be working on the software-only decoder. Too bad about DXVA, but I can understand why I guess.
It's a shame, VobSub subs are *so* easy to generate from their BluRay parents (and significantly smaller) using e.g. BDSup2Sub, and require no torture in performing error-prone OCR! i.e. it's a brain-dead, turn-the-handle process... I guess I still need VSFilter in my toolbox... for now :-)
Thanks,
m
Dunno about VobSub, but albain is the PGS guru. If I were you I'll just mux the BD subs directly now that mkvtoolnix supports them.
And if you have problems with letterbox and software decoding, report them :)
That option disables external subtitles. So it's not usefull. What I'm saying is that I want some option to choose the priority of subtitles. Right now ffdshow uses external subtitles if present and then embeded subtitles. So if I have a movie with embedded subtitles and there are present some external subtitles in the same folder, then the external subtitle is used, not the embedded one. And for me is very annoying.
I understood what you said, but I though that option was there for selecting the priority between external and embedded subs. Until the option is implemented you can revert r3472 and compile your own builds.
magic144
20th July 2010, 17:28
thanks again STaRGaZer
I will report any bugs I find!
As for PGS, if I mux the original PGS subs in with a non 16:9 encode in an .mkv container, will they still render properly, or will they need 16:9 scaling enabling? Again, does this then mean that this option is out for DXVA rendering??
Reason I ask is that most h.264 encodes are based on cropped pictures (for encoding efficiency, so I understand), so they are often wider than 16:9, and if original 16:9 AR subs are rendered within this wider canvas, they will appear squashed - they would need to be rendered crossing into the 'black bars' to appear normal. Does ffdshow's PGS subtitle rendering take this into account (Software AND DXVA variants?)
Thanks,
m
STaRGaZeR
20th July 2010, 19:41
thanks again STaRGaZer
I will report any bugs I find!
As for PGS, if I mux the original PGS subs in with a non 16:9 encode in an .mkv container, will they still render properly, or will they need 16:9 scaling enabling? Again, does this then mean that this option is out for DXVA rendering??
Reason I ask is that most h.264 encodes are based on cropped pictures (for encoding efficiency, so I understand), so they are often wider than 16:9, and if original 16:9 AR subs are rendered within this wider canvas, they will appear squashed - they would need to be rendered crossing into the 'black bars' to appear normal. Does ffdshow's PGS subtitle rendering take this into account (Software AND DXVA variants?)
Thanks,
m
Dunno, I don't encode, my MKVs are remuxed from the BD, so everything is as it was on the disc. Just do a small sample and test it. I'd guess that you'll need it, PGS subs are images, in this case 1920x1080, so if you crop to 1920x800 I don't know what will happen. Always keep in mind that, unless you resize, ffdshow subtitle filter can only work with the original video. And you can't resize if you use DXVA.
BTW, Keiyakusha, I've fixed the issue you reported (in Anira-san - Bad Apple!! (Touhou)_4.ass). As I though ffdshow had a maximum subtitle length of 2000, insufficient for the lines of such script. They were getting truncated, with the subsequent visual effect. The other differencies are because of missing features in ffdshow, like \t and rotate.
Keiyakusha
20th July 2010, 20:09
STaRGaZeR
Oh nice, thanks! I'll try it. Yes, I already know about missing features but at least if other garbage is absent - this is good.
STaRGaZeR
20th July 2010, 20:15
STaRGaZeR
Oh nice, thanks! I'll try it. Yes, I already know about missing features but at least if other garbage is absent - this is good.
I'll post a build with it after some other fixes, it's not present in the r3512 build I uploaded earlier.
Sebastiii
21st July 2010, 13:23
Hi, it seems working pretty good :)
I have see a thing and i don't know if it's normal.
On SRT sub with tag color, if i set option in SSA/ASS config : colors & alpha -> no color anymore.
But for the rest it's work :)
I need to made more test lol,
Seb.
STaRGaZeR
21st July 2010, 17:28
Hi, it seems working pretty good :)
I have see a thing and i don't know if it's normal.
On SRT sub with tag color, if i set option in SSA/ASS config : colors & alpha -> no color anymore.
But for the rest it's work :)
I need to made more test lol,
Seb.
I suppose no color means white, so yes, it's normal, that's the purpose of the option :p. If you check the "Colors & alpha" setting, any colors (caused by tags, styles, whatever) will be ignored and the ones set in the "Size, colors & alpha" section will be used instead. If you haven't changed them, the default one for the body is white.
Another build, this one includes:
- Fixes to the override SSA/ASS position option.
- Increase the maximum allowed length of the subtitle lines.
- Add italic and underline options to the GUI, for both OSD and subtitles. They're also applied to SSA/ASS subs if he option "Font style" is set.
http://www.mediafire.com/?eolh8hll74g8ej6
leeperry
21st July 2010, 18:29
Another build, this one includes:
- Fixes to the override SSA/ASS position option.
- Increase the maximum allowed length of the subtitle lines.
- Add italic and underline options to the GUI, for both OSD and subtitles. They're also applied to SSA/ASS subs if he option "Font style" is set.
works perfectly on ASS :thanks:
http://thumbnails13.imagebam.com/8952/17058789519345.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/17058789519345)
now if you could please allow to completely disable blurring as previously discussed, that'd be beyond words! no blurring/AA whatsoever would be really great, and hopefully this would be easier for you to implement than a variable "blur" slider.
STaRGaZeR
21st July 2010, 19:17
now if you could please allow to completely disable blurring as previously discussed, that'd be beyond words! no blurring/AA whatsoever would be really great, and hopefully this would be easier for you to implement than a variable "blur" slider.
Unchecking the "Blur" setting does exactly that.
leeperry
21st July 2010, 19:52
Hah, indeed! it's even blurrier if I check this option. I guess this is as sharp as it can get? fonts were much more edgy in KMP, I'll try to post a screenshot using HR.
My screenshot above had it disabled, and it still looks quite blurry to my eyes :o
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