MeGUI: General Questions and Troubleshooting Thread

[renoturks]

Guys..i'm having a peculiar issue with my megui...
i'm trying to encode this file Thundercats 2011 S01E15 Trials of Lion-O Part One 720p WEB-DL AAC2 0 H264 to 100MB, but i'm having a problem with it's audio...it gives me an error 1...once i get home ill use the mediaInfo ans post it here...but if someone already know this...i'll be glad to read it ^^

[Guest]

@renoturks

We cannot help you with downloaded torrents. Please read and follow our forum rules.

@all

No help allowed for this! Thank you.

[renoturks]

no no no...i didnt mean it...well...how can i say...all the videos in this format gives me the same error..it's not only that one...

[Guest]

all the videos in this format gives me the same error You mean all your other torrent downloads?

You can post only about material that you legitimately own, e.g., a bluray disk you have purchased.

[renoturks]

ah i see..sorry for that...i just got this only one error that when i try to extract the audio it give's en error and the audio seens fuzzy...well..thanks anyway ^^ have to look somewhere else \o

[tonyymmao]

i have a problem:
i get this error while muxing
A warning occurred: Warning: Quicktime/MP4 reader: Track 0 is missing some data. Broken header atoms?
Process exits with error code: 1
the muxing still completes but the audio desn't get muxed
original codec was DTS-HD
decoder: FFAudioSource
encoder settings: Nero AAC multichannel 128kbps, extension mp4-aac
i tryed encoding it again but the same error comes up and FFAudioSource seems to be the only decoder that can open this file
any solutions?

[LigH]

@ rapscallion:

"Lossless" is certainly the wrong term; "transparent" may be matching (subjectively no noticable flaw).

[tebasuna51]

i have a problem:
i get this error while muxing...
Please put the full log.

[tonyymmao]

Please put the full log.
here u go...
-[Warning] Log for job1 (mux, Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p.track_4113.264 -> Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p.track_4113-muxed.mkv)
--[Information] [5/04/2012 8:22:43 p.m.] Started handling job
--[Information] [5/04/2012 8:22:43 p.m.] Preprocessing
--[Information] [5/04/2012 8:22:44 p.m.] MediaInfo
---[Information] File: D:\Test\Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p.track_4113.264
---[Information] General
----[Information] Format: AVC
----[Information] FormatString: AVC
----[Information] FileSize: 30923055780
----[Information] PlayTime:
---[Information] Video
----[Information] ID:
----[Information] StreamOrder:
----[Information] Width: 1920
----[Information] Height: 1080
----[Information] FrameCount:
----[Information] FrameRate: 23.976
----[Information] ScanType: Progressive
----[Information] Codec: AVC
----[Information] CodecString: AVC
----[Information] Format: AVC
----[Information] AspectRatio: 1.778
----[Information] AspectRatioString: 16:9
----[Information] Delay:
----[Information] Title:
----[Information] Language:
----[Information] LanguageString:
--[Information] [5/04/2012 8:22:44 p.m.] MediaInfo
---[Information] File: D:\Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p.track_4352.mp4
---[Information] General
----[Information] Format: MPEG-4
----[Information] FormatString: MPEG-4
----[Information] FileSize: 126175979
----[Information] PlayTime: 02:14:47.509
---[Information] Audio
----[Information] ID: 1
----[Information] StreamOrder:
----[Information] Format: AAC
----[Information] FormatProfile:
----[Information] FormatSettingsSBR:
----[Information] FormatSettingsPS:
----[Information] SamplingRate: 24000
----[Information] SamplingRateString: 24.0 KHz
----[Information] Channels: 7
----[Information] ChannelsString: 7 channels
----[Information] ChannelPositionsString2:
----[Information] BitRateMode: VBR
----[Information] Delay:
----[Information] Title:
----[Information] Language:
----[Information] LanguageString:
--[Information] [5/04/2012 8:22:44 p.m.] Job commandline: "C:\MeGUI_2050_x86\tools\mkvmerge\mkvmerge.exe" -o "D:\Test\Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p.track_4113-muxed.mkv" --engage keep_bitstream_ar_info --default-duration 0:24000/1001fps "--compression" "0:none" -d "0" --no-chapters -A -S "D:\Test\Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p.track_4113.264" --aac-is-sbr 0:0 "--compression" "0:none" -a 0 --no-chapters -D -S "D:\Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p.track_4352.mp4" --ui-language en
--[Information] [5/04/2012 8:22:44 p.m.] Muxing started
--[Warning] [5/04/2012 8:22:46 p.m.] A warning occurred: Warning: Quicktime/MP4 reader: Track 0 is missing some data. Broken header atoms?
--[Information] [5/04/2012 8:22:53 p.m.] Process exits with error code: -1
--[Information] [5/04/2012 8:22:53 p.m.] Standard output stream
---[NoImage] mkvmerge v5.2.1 ('A Far Off Place') built on Jan 2 2012 23:21:10
---[NoImage] 'D:\Test\Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p.track_4113.264': Using the demultiplexer for the format 'AVC/h.264'.
---[NoImage] 'D:\Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p.track_4352.mp4': Using the demultiplexer for the format 'QuickTime/MP4'.
---[NoImage] 'D:\Test\Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p.track_4113.264' track 0: Using the output module for the format 'AVC/h.264'.
---[NoImage] The file 'D:\Test\Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p.track_4113-muxed.mkv' has been opened for writing.
---[NoImage] 'D:\Test\Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p.track_4113.264' track 0: Extracted the aspect ratio information from the MPEG-4 layer 10 (AVC) video data and set the display dimensions to 1920/1080.
--[Information] [5/04/2012 8:22:53 p.m.] Standard error stream
--[Information] Deleting aborted output
---[Information] [5/04/2012 8:22:53 p.m.] Delete aborted ouptut set: True
---[Information] [5/04/2012 8:22:53 p.m.] File to delete: D:\Test\Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p.track_4113-muxed.mkv
---[Information] [5/04/2012 8:22:53 p.m.] File deleted
--[Information] [5/04/2012 8:22:53 p.m.] Job completed
--[Information] [5/04/2012 8:22:53 p.m.] Current job was aborted
-[Error] Log for job1 (mux, Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p-muxed_track1_und.h264 -> Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p-muxed_track1_und-muxed.mkv)
--[Information] [5/04/2012 8:23:35 p.m.] Started handling job
--[Information] [5/04/2012 8:23:35 p.m.] Preprocessing
--[Information] [5/04/2012 8:23:35 p.m.] MediaInfo
---[Information] File: D:\Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p-muxed_track1_und.h264
---[Information] General
----[Information] Format: AVC
----[Information] FormatString: AVC
----[Information] FileSize: 1010862234
----[Information] PlayTime:
---[Information] Video
----[Information] ID:
----[Information] StreamOrder:
----[Information] Width: 1280
----[Information] Height: 720
----[Information] FrameCount:
----[Information] FrameRate: 23.976
----[Information] ScanType: Progressive
----[Information] Codec: AVC
----[Information] CodecString: AVC
----[Information] Format: AVC
----[Information] AspectRatio: 1.778
----[Information] AspectRatioString: 16:9
----[Information] Delay:
----[Information] Title:
----[Information] Language:
----[Information] LanguageString:
--[Information] [5/04/2012 8:23:35 p.m.] MediaInfo
---[Information] File: D:\Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p.track_4352.mp4
---[Information] General
----[Information] Format: MPEG-4
----[Information] FormatString: MPEG-4
----[Information] FileSize: 126175979
----[Information] PlayTime: 02:14:47.509
---[Information] Audio
----[Information] ID: 1
----[Information] StreamOrder:
----[Information] Format: AAC
----[Information] FormatProfile:
----[Information] FormatSettingsSBR:
----[Information] FormatSettingsPS:
----[Information] SamplingRate: 24000
----[Information] SamplingRateString: 24.0 KHz
----[Information] Channels: 7
----[Information] ChannelsString: 7 channels
----[Information] ChannelPositionsString2:
----[Information] BitRateMode: VBR
----[Information] Delay:
----[Information] Title:
----[Information] Language:
----[Information] LanguageString:
--[Information] [5/04/2012 8:23:35 p.m.] Job commandline: "C:\MeGUI_2050_x86\tools\mkvmerge\mkvmerge.exe" -o "D:\Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p-muxed_track1_und-muxed.mkv" --engage keep_bitstream_ar_info --default-duration 0:24000/1001fps "--compression" "0:none" -d "0" --no-chapters -A -S "D:\Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p-muxed_track1_und.h264" --aac-is-sbr 0:0 "--compression" "0:none" -a 0 --no-chapters -D -S "D:\Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p.track_4352.mp4" --ui-language en
--[Information] [5/04/2012 8:23:35 p.m.] Muxing started
--[Warning] [5/04/2012 8:23:36 p.m.] A warning occurred: Warning: Quicktime/MP4 reader: Track 0 is missing some data. Broken header atoms?
--[Error] [5/04/2012 8:24:02 p.m.] Process exits with error code: 1
--[Information] [5/04/2012 8:24:02 p.m.] Standard output stream
---[NoImage] mkvmerge v5.2.1 ('A Far Off Place') built on Jan 2 2012 23:21:10
---[NoImage] 'D:\Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p-muxed_track1_und.h264': Using the demultiplexer for the format 'AVC/h.264'.
---[NoImage] 'D:\Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p.track_4352.mp4': Using the demultiplexer for the format 'QuickTime/MP4'.
---[NoImage] 'D:\Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p-muxed_track1_und.h264' track 0: Using the output module for the format 'AVC/h.264'.
---[NoImage] The file 'D:\Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p-muxed_track1_und-muxed.mkv' has been opened for writing.
---[NoImage] 'D:\Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p-muxed_track1_und.h264' track 0: Extracted the aspect ratio information from the MPEG-4 layer 10 (AVC) video data and set the display dimensions to 1280/720.
---[NoImage] The cue entries (the index) are being written...
---[NoImage] Muxing took 26 seconds.
--[Information] [5/04/2012 8:24:02 p.m.] Standard error stream
--[Information] [5/04/2012 8:24:02 p.m.] Job completed

[tebasuna51]

D:\Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p.track_4352.mp4
seems a track demuxed from a downloaded rip and can help you about this.

If you own the BD, try to convert other time the source audio to a more high bitrate, 128 Kb/s for a 7.1 is not enough, use, at least, Variable Bitrate Q=0.35, AAC Profile Automatic.

[tonyymmao]

D:\Star Wars VI Blue Ray Rip 1080p.track_4352.mp4
seems a track demuxed from a downloaded rip and can help you about this.

If you own the BD, try to convert other time the source audio to a more high bitrate, 128 Kb/s for a 7.1 is not enough, use, at least, Variable Bitrate Q=0.35, AAC Profile Automatic.
don't worry i own the blue ray, i just changed the name of it while ripping...
sorry but that's not much help since i'm no expert on configuring, i normally just use the presets...

[darkw1zard]

http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/344681-x64-MeGUI-DirectShowSource?p=2149546

So I have asked in videohelp before, but the problem has not been solved.
It's simple, it doesnt work quite well in my x64 system.
e.g. not respoding if i try to open via directshowsource, when open via fileindexer, it shows error (ext done, error for idx)

Those jobs meanwhile are working in my previous pc, x86 system.

Right now in x64, i no longer install any codec pack (based on videohelp forum suggest), i just install avisynth, run the standalone MeGUI, let it update.
The way I open videos is via Avisynth Script Creator.

Anybody can help? thanks.

[Zathor]

Please post your full log when you try to use the file indexer.

I can and will not support DirectShowSource(). There are too many constraints - especially in the x64 environment.

[forum king]

Hey matez !!
how you all doin ?

umm.. had a smallish query :
I have been trying to convert this 6 channelDTS file into a 6 channel AAC one preserving all the channels.
Somehow when the file is played on a standard 2 Channel it sounds pretty cracky as if channels are overlapping or something
can anyone point me what am i doing wrong here is the log

[Information] Log for job10 (audio, Latest.dts -> Latest.mp4)
-[Information] [4/18/2012 11:36:38 AM] Started handling job
-[Information] [4/18/2012 11:36:38 AM] Preprocessing
-[Information] [4/18/2012 11:36:38 AM] MediaInfo
--[Information] File: D:\ALL\Latest.dts
--[Information] General
---[Information] Format: DTS
---[Information] FormatString: DTS
---[Information] FileSize: 1051094956
---[Information] PlayTime: 01:32:49.637
--[Information] Audio
---[Information] ID:
---[Information] Format: DTS
---[Information] FormatProfile:
---[Information] FormatSettingsSBR:
---[Information] FormatSettingsPS:
---[Information] SamplingRate: 48000
---[Information] SamplingRateString: 48.0 KHz
---[Information] Channels: 6
---[Information] ChannelsString: 6 channels
---[Information] ChannelPositionsString2: 3/2/0.1
---[Information] BitRateMode: CBR
---[Information] Delay:
---[Information] Title:
---[Information] Language:
---[Information] LanguageString:
-[Information] [4/18/2012 11:36:38 AM] Trying to open the file with NicAudio
-[Information] [4/18/2012 11:36:38 AM] Successfully opened the file with

NicAudio
-[Information] [4/18/2012 11:36:39 AM] Avisynth script
--[NoImage] LoadPlugin("D:\ALL.STUFF\something.extra.for.mystuff\backupstuff

\Updated.19-12-11\tools\avisynth_plugin\NicAudio.dll")
--[NoImage] NicDtsSource("D:\ALL\Latest.dts", DRC=1)
--[NoImage] Normalize()
--[NoImage] return last
-[Information] [4/18/2012 11:36:39 AM] Commandline used: -ignorelength -lc -br

128000 -if - -of "{0}"
-[Information] [4/18/2012 11:36:39 AM] Encoding started
-[Information] [4/18/2012 11:36:39 AM] Avisynth script environment opened
-[Information] [4/18/2012 11:36:39 AM] Script loaded
-[Information] Output Decoder
--[Information] [4/18/2012 11:36:39 AM] Channels: 6
--[Information] [4/18/2012 11:36:39 AM] Bits per sample: 32
--[Information] [4/18/2012 11:36:39 AM] Sample rate: 48000
-[Information] [4/18/2012 11:36:39 AM] Commandline: D:\ALL.STUFF

\something.extra.for.mystuff\backupstuff\megui.newest.2-2-11\tools\win32-

OLDER\neroAacEnc.exe -ignorelength -lc -br 128000 -if - -of "D:\ALL

\Latest.mp4"
-[Information] [4/18/2012 11:36:39 AM] Encoder process started
-[Information] [4/18/2012 11:51:11 AM] Output from encoder via stderr
--[NoImage] *************************************************************
--[NoImage] * *
--[NoImage] * Nero AAC Encoder *
--[NoImage] * Copyright 2009 Nero AG *
--[NoImage] * All Rights Reserved Worldwide *
--[NoImage] * *
--[NoImage] * Package build date: Feb 18 2010 *
--[NoImage] * Package version: 1.5.4.0 *
--[NoImage] * *
--[NoImage] * See -help for a complete list of available parameters. *
--[NoImage] * *
--[NoImage] *************************************************************
-[Information] [4/18/2012 11:51:11 AM] MediaInfo
--[Information] File: D:\ALL\Latest.mp4
--[Information] General
---[Information] Format: MPEG-4
---[Information] FormatString: MPEG-4
---[Information] FileSize: 85821122
---[Information] PlayTime: 01:32:52.480
--[Information] Audio
---[Information] ID: 1
---[Information] Format: AAC
---[Information] FormatProfile: LC
---[Information] FormatSettingsSBR: No (Explicit)
---[Information] FormatSettingsPS:
---[Information] SamplingRate: 48000
---[Information] SamplingRateString: 48.0 KHz
---[Information] Channels: 6
---[Information] ChannelsString: 6 channels
---[Information] ChannelPositionsString2: 3/2/0.1
---[Information] BitRateMode: VBR
---[Information] Delay:
---[Information] Title:
---[Information] Language:
---[Information] LanguageString:
-[Information] [4/18/2012 11:51:11 AM] Postprocessing
--[Information] Deleting intermediate files
-[Information] [4/18/2012 11:51:11 AM] Job completed

regards

[darkw1zard]

Please post your full log when you try to use the file indexer.

I can and will not support DirectShowSource(). There are too many constraints - especially in the x64 environment.

This:

-[Information] FileIndexer
--[Information] [19/4/2012 4:33:31 PM] MediaInfo
---[Information] File: J:\JIN (2009)\JIN E08 [720p H.264 AAC].mkv
---[Information] General
----[Information] Format: Matroska
----[Information] FormatString: Matroska
----[Information] FileSize: 1786173040
----[Information] PlayTime: 00:46:27.284
---[Information] Video
----[Information] ID: 1
----[Information] StreamOrder: 0
----[Information] Width: 1280
----[Information] Height: 720
----[Information] FrameCount: 83535
----[Information] FrameRate: 29.970
----[Information] ScanType: Progressive
----[Information] Codec: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
----[Information] CodecString: AVC
----[Information] Format: AVC
----[Information] AspectRatio: 1.778
----[Information] AspectRatioString: 16:9
----[Information] Delay: 0
----[Information] Title:
----[Information] Language: en
----[Information] LanguageString: English
---[Information] Audio
----[Information] ID: 2
----[Information] StreamOrder: 1
----[Information] Format: AAC
----[Information] FormatProfile: LC
----[Information] FormatSettingsSBR:
----[Information] FormatSettingsPS:
----[Information] SamplingRate: 48000
----[Information] SamplingRateString: 48.0 KHz
----[Information] Channels: 2
----[Information] ChannelsString: 2 channels
----[Information] ChannelPositionsString2: 2/0/0
----[Information] BitRateMode:
----[Information] Delay: 15
----[Information] Title:
----[Information] Language:
----[Information] LanguageString:
--[Information] [19/4/2012 4:33:31 PM] MkvInfo
---[NoImage] + EBML head
---[NoImage] |+ Doc type: matroska
---[NoImage] |+ Doc type version: 2
---[NoImage] |+ Doc type read version: 2
---[NoImage] + Segment, size 1786173004
---[NoImage] |+ Seek head (subentries will be skipped)
---[NoImage] |+ EbmlVoid (size: 4044)
---[NoImage] |+ Segment information
---[NoImage] | + Timecode scale: 1000000
---[NoImage] | + Muxing application: libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1
---[NoImage] | + Writing application: mkvmerge v2.9.7 ('Tenderness') built on Jul 1 2009 18:43:35
---[NoImage] | + Duration: 2787.284s (00:46:27.284)
---[NoImage] | + Date: Mon Nov 30 16:56:00 2009 UTC
---[NoImage] | + Segment UID: 0x82 0xcf 0xe6 0x28 0x3e 0xf2 0x91 0xfd 0x8d 0x7c 0x2d 0xeb 0xeb 0xdf 0x0f 0x41
---[NoImage] |+ Segment tracks
---[NoImage] | + A track
---[NoImage] | + Track number: 1
---[NoImage] | + Track UID: 1
---[NoImage] | + Track type: video
---[NoImage] | + Enabled: 1
---[NoImage] | + Default flag: 1
---[NoImage] | + Forced flag: 0
---[NoImage] | + Lacing flag: 0
---[NoImage] | + MinCache: 1
---[NoImage] | + Timecode scale: 1
---[NoImage] | + Max BlockAddition ID: 0
---[NoImage] | + Codec ID: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
---[NoImage] | + Codec decode all: 1
---[NoImage] | + CodecPrivate, length 39 (h.264 profile: High @L4.1)
---[NoImage] | + Default duration: 33.367ms (29.970 fps for a video track)
---[NoImage] | + Language: eng
---[NoImage] | + Video track
---[NoImage] | + Pixel width: 1280
---[NoImage] | + Pixel height: 720
---[NoImage] | + Interlaced: 0
---[NoImage] | + Display width: 16
---[NoImage] | + Display height: 9
---[NoImage] | + A track
---[NoImage] | + Track number: 2
---[NoImage] | + Track UID: 200851890
---[NoImage] | + Track type: audio
---[NoImage] | + Enabled: 1
---[NoImage] | + Default flag: 1
---[NoImage] | + Forced flag: 0
---[NoImage] | + Lacing flag: 1
---[NoImage] | + MinCache: 0
---[NoImage] | + Timecode scale: 1
---[NoImage] | + Max BlockAddition ID: 0
---[NoImage] | + Codec ID: A_AAC
---[NoImage] | + Codec decode all: 1
---[NoImage] | + CodecPrivate, length 2
---[NoImage] | + Default duration: 21.333ms (46.875 fps for a video track)
---[NoImage] | + Language: und
---[NoImage] | + Audio track
---[NoImage] | + Sampling frequency: 48000
---[NoImage] | + Channels: 2
---[NoImage] |+ EbmlVoid (size: 1024)
---[NoImage] |+ Cluster
-[Information] Log for job13 (ext, JIN E08 [720p H.264 AAC].mkv -> )
--[Information] [19/4/2012 4:33:33 PM] Started handling job
--[Information] [19/4/2012 4:33:33 PM] Preprocessing
--[Information] [19/4/2012 4:33:33 PM] Job commandline: "A:\MeGUI Latest\tools\mkvmerge\mkvextract.exe" tracks "J:\JIN (2009)\JIN E08 [720p H.264 AAC].mkv" --ui-language en 1:"J:\JIN (2009)\JIN E08 [720p H.264 AAC] - [2] .aac"
--[Information] [19/4/2012 4:33:33 PM] Extracting started
--[Information] [19/4/2012 4:34:39 PM] Standard output stream: Extracting track 1 with the CodecID 'A_AAC' to the file 'J:\JIN (2009)\JIN E08 [720p H.264 AAC] - [2] .aac'. Container format: raw AAC file with ADTS headers
--[Information] [19/4/2012 4:34:39 PM] Standard error stream
--[Information] [19/4/2012 4:34:39 PM] Postprocessing
---[Information] Deleting intermediate files
--[Information] [19/4/2012 4:34:39 PM] Job completed
-[Error] Log for job14 (idx, JIN E08 [720p H.264 AAC].mkv -> JIN E08 [720p H.264 AAC].mkv.ffindex)
--[Information] [19/4/2012 4:34:39 PM] Started handling job
--[Information] [19/4/2012 4:34:39 PM] Preprocessing
--[Information] [19/4/2012 4:34:39 PM] Job commandline: "A:\MeGUI Latest\tools\ffms\ffmsindex.exe" -t -1 -f "J:\JIN (2009)\JIN E08 [720p H.264 AAC].mkv"
--[Information] [19/4/2012 4:34:39 PM] Indexing started
--[Error] [19/4/2012 4:34:45 PM] Process exits with error code: 1
--[Information] [19/4/2012 4:34:45 PM] Standard output stream: Indexing error: Audio decoding error
--[Information] [19/4/2012 4:34:45 PM] Standard error stream
--[Information] [19/4/2012 4:34:45 PM] Job completed

Thanks!

[tebasuna51]

... it sounds pretty cracky as if channels are overlapping or something
can anyone point me what am i doing wrong?

Force LC with 128 Kb/s for a 6 channels audio.

If you want LC use at least VBR quality 0.35.
If you want 128 Kb/s use HE.

[darkw1zard]

-ok! sorry i didnt read the rules! -

[darkw1zard]

-ok! sorry i didnt read the rules! -

[Guest]

@darkw1zard

No discussion of downloaded torrent files! Please read and follow our forum rules.

@all

Provide no further help on darkw1zard's issue.

[hello_hello]

@darkw1zard
No discussion of downloaded torrent files! Please read and follow our forum rules.
@all
Provide no further help on darkw1zard's issue.

A plea on darkw1zard's behalf (although maybe I've missed some of the action as he's edited a couple of his posts):

http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/344681-x64-MeGUI-DirectShowSource?p=2149546
darkw1zard posted regarding his problem using MeGUI in another forum and when he PM'd me and I couldn't help him, I sent him here as I thought Zathor probably could.

No doubt he joined the forum then had to wait 5 days to even ask about his problem, so maybe as he's a new member instead of just turning him away he could be given a break? Maybe darkw1zard could be allowed to post a different log file or replace the current one in order for sometime to help him get MeGUI working properly (or a mod could edit it for him)? It seems a pity for a new member not to be able to receive help with a software issue simply because he wasn't aware of the rules and made the mistake of posting the wrong log file, because he's trying to fix MeGUI, not get help converting a particular file as such.

[Octo-puss]

Ok I have two equally stupid questions:
1) Can you recommend approximate sufficient bitrate for encoding a DVD into x264?

2) I haven't touched this stuff for about 4 years and forgot absolutely everything I knew back then, and have major problems creating the AVS script correctly. The DVD I have is clearly anamorphic (it plays in widescreen), but I can't make the script creator preview in correct AR no matter what I do. Input DAR shows ITU 16:9 PAL (1.823361), so I assume I need to hit Clever anamorphic encoding. No matter what I check, the preview window still shows the video wrong. What do I do?

[hello_hello]

1. Use quality based, single pass encoding with a CRF value of 18 to 22 (the higher the value, the lower the quality). Forget about bitrates. Around 18 is considered to be "transparent".

2. The preview window which opens when using the script creator doesn't display the correct aspect ratio. After you save the script a new preview window will open (I think MeGUI has an option to disable or enable it from doing so) and the second preview window has a checkbox for displaying the aspect ratio correctly. I've never quite understood why the first preview window doesn't have the same option. I guess there must be a reason.

MeGUI also has an option which you can uncheck to stop it using ITU resizing by default. There's also an acceptable aspect error option which effects anamorphic encoding and is set to 2% by default. I generally change it to 0%.

[Octo-puss]

Ah ok. I unclearly rememember I used to use automated 2pass back then.
I also dug a text file with assorted tips up where I had a note about some parameter called --sar, which I passed to x264 encoder, which apparently did something with the AR.

Man this is so frustrating, I read the basic MeGUI guide on the wiki and I still struggle with this big time.

[flebber]

Ah ok. I unclearly rememember I used to use automated 2pass back then.
I also dug a text file with assorted tips up where I had a note about some parameter called --sar, which I passed to x264 encoder, which apparently did something with the AR.

Man this is so frustrating, I read the basic MeGUI guide on the wiki and I still struggle with this big time.

The good news is that its been substantially simplified. As stated select X264 CRF 18 and then choose one of two presets speed Fast/Medium/Slow etc and material based Film/Anime etc.

Unless there is something wrong with the DVD your are set to go using the oneclick encoder(this too is available in a separate thread) soon to be added to dev.

[LigH]

If you hit "Clever anamorphic", MeGUI keeps the video anamorphic (= horizontally squeezed) and won't change its dimensions. The video will be encoded with the original, unaltered width and height, the resulting container will just get an SAR or DAR flag added so that the final output file will be deskewed by the media player (so it won't work with RAWAVC output, you would have to add the aspect ratio flag again while multiplexing).

If you want the video deskewed already in the preview of the "AVS script creator", do not check "Clever anamorphic". Instead, select the correct "Input DAR", set the "Resize" target dimensions, then check "Apply auto Preview" and wait a few seconds. You should not add the SAR parameter manually.

By the way, the ITU DAR is not always the correct one. It was based on cathode ray tube TV signal timings. DVD productions based on film scans are not certain to still respect those. The only "quite certain" 720 pixel wide ITU sources may be (mostly 4:3) TV captures with obvious soft black left and right borders, with a width of 8-9 pixels. Academy format or Cinemascope movies instead were possibly scaled with generic 16:9 DAR. The only certain way to discover it is to find a scene with a perfect sphere and measure its width and height in the video.

[Octo-puss]

2. The preview window which opens when using the script creator doesn't display the correct aspect ratio. After you save the script a new preview window will open (I think MeGUI has an option to disable or enable it from doing so) and the second preview window has a checkbox for displaying the aspect ratio correctly. I've never quite understood why the first preview window doesn't have the same option. I guess there must be a reason.

MeGUI also has an option which you can uncheck to stop it using ITU resizing by default. There's also an acceptable aspect error option which effects anamorphic encoding and is set to 2% by default. I generally change it to 0%.
Well it's still only a preview. No matter what I did there the result was stretched :P Is there anything I can do else besides setting SAR then?

What's ITU anyway? Or what is it good for?

edit: thanks LigH, I will try it again.

[Octo-puss]

There is something more. I am not quite sure I understand the LAME settings. What exactly does "Preferred decoder" do? Normalizing I never touched and probably never will... And since this is a bit different from regular music, is there any benefit in using VRB in movies? I assume the value I'd set here would be the average bitrate? I usually use LameXP and it just has a slider which is responsible for quality, so this is a bit confusing too.

[LigH]

There are different audio decoders too. Depending on the audio source format (elementary or multiplexed, specific encoded audio format), there may be advantages or disadvantages (e.g. the ability to access it, configurability, reliability, precision).

Normalizing ensures that the volume gain will be optimized to avoid clipping, so it should in general be useful. Keep it a little below 100% (e.g. 98%). Downmixed multichannel audio (e.g. 5.1 AC3 down to stereo/ProLogic-surround for MP3) may still sound a bit quiet, you can boost it if you "Apply DynamicRangeCompression".

Regarding quality, VBR is in general preferable. Modern container formats can easily handle VBR audio (and correctly done, even AVI will). The ABR mode will make the bitrate vary only slightly around the average bitrate chosen. The VBR mode allows a freely varying bitrate with a quality factor, as you are used from LameXP. In case of doubt, download the "LAME bundle" from RareWares and read the LAME manual.

[Octo-puss]

Oh I do know what VBR is, I have a bit more experience making my own mp3s than working with video :) I managed to realize what the number in VBR box was - not any bitrate but actually the 0-9 quality setting, lol. This is what I get for trying to learn stuff too early in the morning :P
I don't understand the normalization though. I ran into it years ago with mp3 stuff and back then people told me it's used to make all songs equally loud. Guess I had it wrong. I admit I am no audio nerd at all. Just a regular guy who wants to rip a couple of his movies. I don't understand 80% of all the terms used here, sadly.

[LigH]

Indeed, "Normalization" is not "Equal loudness". It means only: "Make it as loud as possible without messing it up"; but it maximizes only the one loudest sample, no matter how loud the average is.

Especially when downmixing multichannel audio, it is quite necessary. The "trivial" downmix approach is: Theoretically, all six channels could have a maximum at the same sample. So to certainly avoid clipping (overdriving the sound beyond the maximum allowed value), divide all channels by 6 before mixing it to the new left and right channels. Practically, a maximum in all six channels quite certainly never happens. Therefore the weighted channel sums will most probably contain a quite low volume if they were divided by 6 before mixing the channels.

Normalizing in 2 passes first scans the whole audio for the loudest part (so it will take a few minutes before the audio conversion starts with an obvious progress), adjusts a gain factor, and multiplies the downmix so that the loudest sample will just even reach the value you entered.

Dialogs may still sound quiet if there are severe differences to audio effect loaded scenes (like explosions). So you may wish that quiet parts would be amplified more than already extremely loud parts. The "Dynamic Range Compression" does that. Most of current mainstream music is dynamically compressed to make it sound loud, louder, loudest... in contrast to movies where you can sometimes hardly understand people talking in between action scenes.

[hello_hello]

Ah ok. I unclearly rememember I used to use automated 2pass back then.
I also dug a text file with assorted tips up where I had a note about some parameter called --sar, which I passed to x264 encoder, which apparently did something with the AR.

Man this is so frustrating, I read the basic MeGUI guide on the wiki and I still struggle with this big time.

MeGUI possibly has a bit more of a learning curve than other GUIs, but I think it's worth it.
How did you pass --sar to x264? Maybe that's your problem, There's no need to add any aspect ratio info manually as MeGUI does it for you. If you're using anamorphic encoding, as you crop you can switch over to the Script tab (AVS script creator) and watch the aspect ratio being set by MeGUI change. It should change any time you crop if you have the acceptable aspect error option set to 0%.

Using X264 single pass CRF encoding is all the rage these days. The only advantage to using 2 pass encoding is you can hit a particular file size. If you prefer to encode to a particular quality instead, use single pass CRF encoding. When setting up the encoder you'd select the "Targeting Quality" or "Constant Quality" option (it's the same thing but labelled differently if you tick the "advanced settings" box) and the number in the "Quality" field is the CRF value.

Well it's still only a preview. No matter what I did there the result was stretched :P Is there anything I can do else besides setting SAR then?

What's ITU anyway? Or what is it good for?

edit: thanks LigH, I will try it again.

So after you save the AVS script and the second preview window opens, are you saying if you check the "display aspect ratio" box at the bottom (or whatever it says, it's something similar) the aspect ratio is still wrong? It shouldn't be. Don't add any aspect ratio info yourself and it should be fine.
I'm not really sure what you mean by "it's still only a preview".

ITU is the "official" way to resize a DVD. Using the ITU method 16:9 and 4:3 DVDs aren't exactly 16:9 or 4:3. You can tell MeGUI not to use ITU resizing, or manually change the input aspect ratio to 16:9 or 4:3. The difference isn't all that great, but in my humble opinion most DVDs don't use ITU resizing.

[Octo-puss]

I got it now. I just hit clever anamorphic, resize mod16, and surprisingly this time the result is 16:9. I guess I overlooked something before.
I am impressed at x264 btw. It's so much more simple now. I just hit CRF18, very slow, film tuning, and the bloody DVD looks BETTER on the encode than the original. LOL! This might change for HD stuff though, of course.
But. Disk space is generally not an issue these days, but this stuff was 1.7GB before, encode came up at slightly over 700MB. I am thinking whether this is not a bit of an overkill. 2 hours movie might get ridiculously big. Gotta try soon.


Normalizing in 2 passes first scans the whole audio for the loudest part (so it will take a few minutes before the audio conversion starts with an obvious progress), adjusts a gain factor, and multiplies the downmix so that the loudest sample will just even reach the value you entered.

Dialogs may still sound quiet if there are severe differences to audio effect loaded scenes (like explosions). So you may wish that quiet parts would be amplified more than already extremely loud parts. The "Dynamic Range Compression" does that. Most of current mainstream music is dynamically compressed to make it sound loud, louder, loudest... in contrast to movies where you can sometimes hardly understand people talking in between action scenes.
Hmm. So are you saying it's probably not a bad thing to just normalize everything? I noticed the volume contrast between action scenes and regular dialogues in LOTS of movies, and it was bloody annoying!

[bamsebo]

Unless you have a good reason to I never touch the audio. I encode the video (I always base mine on DXVA template quality 20 , slow either HD or SD depending on source, output device in WDTV which is what I use for viewing ) Click the auto encode button and use "No target Size (use profile settings)" and tick the Add "additional content" click Save then add the original audio file that was demuxed during indexing. Have done all my DVDs and HDTV recordings like that for a while and never had a bad encode. Barry

[LigH]

The optimum is probably not to convert an AC3 audio track from DVD at all, but to copy it into the converted video. Most players, even consumer sets, can handle AC3 audio in most of their supported container formats.

But if you insist in converting to MP3 (and may it be only due to the smaller size), the normalization will be very recommendable for the case that multichannel audio has to be downmixed. If the original audio track has only two channels (DD 2.0, possibly with Pro-Logic surround already), not much changing is required instead, even normalization may be omitted here.

[Octo-puss]

Yea that's exactly what I did in several cases back then, I don't believe in multi channel anyway, I am a fan of classical stereo, and luckily most movies still have such track available, so unless it was really huge I just muxed it in as it was.
For other cases I am not sure what bitrate should I go for though. V0 produces pretty much the same size mp3, which kills the purpose :P

[bamsebo]

On the other hand I do enjoy 5.1 sound now that most our HDTV broadcasts have a 5.1 channel :)

If I have to re-encode the audio 2.0 or 5.1 I use AAC or AC3 as the Samsung TV doesn't support streamed MKV so I have to mux it into an MP4 container with AAC sound. I try to keep the bit-rate "as is" as the amount of HDD space you save is minimal (unless you convert DTS or PCM to AAC!) There's no reason to increase the bit-rate (You can't put back what's not there) But for me the bottom line is how doest it sound on my playback devices?

[LigH]

LAME has presets too, but they are almost obsolete now because the default options pretty much cover them as well, and the "fast" modifier selects the superior new VBR mode today. The most common presets were:

--preset fast standard = -V 2 (suitable for mostly "transparent" quality music)
--preset fast medium = -V 5 (suitable for leisure background music, similar to FM radio)

MeGUI uses a default of "-V 4" in its "LAME *scratchpad*", so I believe it is good enough for mostly human voice and environment noise, as usual in movie audio tracks.
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If you prefer 2-channel sound, and your DVD contains a 2.0 DD track, prefer this one over downmixing a 5.1 DD track! It is probably already Pro-Logic matrix surround encoded, which gives a remaining rest of surround sound where a decoder is available, but even preserves a little bit of ambient sound even if you have only stereo speakers.

If you have only a discrete 5.1 DD track, then downmix it using the "Pro-Logic II" option, with normalization and possibly even DRC. If you don't like MeGUI doing that, GUIs for BeSweet and alternatives (e.g. BeSweetGUI, BeLight and HeadAC3he) give also access to my "Boost" compressor; use only either this or the AC3 decoder DRC!
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:o Gosh, are we already off-topic...

[Octo-puss]

Well I basically use either V0 or V2, but apparently for movies it's a bit of an overkill - for DVDs at least.
And I realized I neded new PC badly. Core2Duo took over TWO HOURS to encode 40 mins of video! Yuck! Gotta punish my wife's i3 during nights it seems :P

[flebber]

Well I basically use either V0 or V2, but apparently for movies it's a bit of an overkill - for DVDs at least.
And I realized I neded new PC badly. Core2Duo took over TWO HOURS to encode 40 mins of video! Yuck! Gotta punish my wife's i3 during nights it seems :P

2 hours would be bad I guess if you were using the x264 default prest. I use slow and a DVD usually takes about 3-4 hours depending on length.

For mp3 I wouldn't use lower than v2, but with AAC being well well supported is there a reason you don't use that? IMO better quality and size than mp3.

[Octo-puss]

Well, which settings should I use then? I don't mind it taking time. I once encoded bluray movie. It took four days :D

[LigH]

Mode: 1-pass Quality; your personal CRF threshold, test it!
Preset: usually not much slower than "slow"
Tuning: related to your movie content (film = average,reality / animation = cartoon,anime / grain = noise-on-purpose)
Device: if you need compatibility restrictions (Blu-ray limits encoding complexity)

AAC audio works well together with AVC video in the MP4 (or MKV) container. The Nero AAC Encoder used to be one of the best, but the QuickTime AAC routines seem to be slightly superior now (let's hope MeGUI will support qaac too, but that requires QuickTime or iTunes installed). Both easily surpass any MP3 encoder regarding the quality/size relation, and support multichannel audio at all too.

[Atak_Snajpera]

regarding aac. even fhg aac is better than nero.

[tebasuna51]

The Nero AAC Encoder used to be one of the best, but the QuickTime AAC routines seem to be slightly superior now.
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regarding aac. even fhg aac is better than nero.

Only tested with stereo and low bitrates.

And can't be included in MeGUI because licenses.

[LigH]

Well, the difference between Nero, QT and FhG encoders is rather low, compared to the magnitude to FAAC, as far as I remember the results from Roberto Amorim. So I doubt it would be urgent to switch. And as long as MeGUI can handle pre-converted AAC files, I still have a choice, even if not under one covering GUI.

[djmasturbeat]

i hadn't used MeGUI in a bit, but when i did I got usual updates along with one that caught my eye, pgcdemux.
i looked in log and see this:
2135 [PGC Demux] added pgcdemux for DVD PGC processing

but my question is where do i access this from?
this is a great tool to implement into MeGUI, but I can't seem to find it. it isn't in the tools drop-down list or anywhere else that I can find.

please guide me, thanks

[Zathor]

At the moment it is only available here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=163399

[neveja]

Zathor
Are you planning update to Xvid 132?

Sorry for my bad English.
Thanks!

[Zathor]

As soon as there is a xvid_encraw which supports XVID 1.3x and AVI files > 2GB I will update it. But I fear that this will never happen.

[neveja]

Zathor
Thanks. I reported the developers.
Quote:

I have problem.. Xvid 1.3.2 can't create output files bigger than 2 Gb. I've just tested it. How to fix this problem?

Discussion:
http://forum.doom9.org/archive/index.php/t-162990.html
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1572310#post1572310

I would be very grateful if you could help solve this problem.
Sorry for my bad English.
Thanks in advance.

Regards, Dmitry )

Hi,

thanks for your message. From the links you sent, I don't think that there
is a problem with Xvid 1.3.x. It's just that in general, AVI 1.0 files
simply cannot be larger than 2 GB by design.

And xvid_encraw produces AVI 1.0 output because it uses Microsoft's AVIFile
API under Windows to write AVI files. But it always did like this (also in
older versions than 1.3.x). AVIFile unfortunately supports only AVI 1.0,
so the AVI output from xvid_encraw cannot be larger than 2 GB.

If you want AVI files larger than 2 GB, you need to mux them into AVI 2.0,
aka "OpenDML", format. You can achieve this by encoding your video with
xvid_encraw into a raw MPEG-4 elementary stream ("-o output.m4v"; do not
use "-avi" option). After encoding, you can then mux the video stream
(e.g. "output.m4v") together with your audio track into an OpenDML AVI
using a separate muxing tool like Avi-Mux GUI:


The resulting AVI file can then be larger than 2 GB.

Some GUI tools can automatize the above workflow. I'd expect that megui
would do this too but I don't know the internals of megui at all. So I
can't tell why megui doesn't work anymore as expected after replacing
its bundled (older) xvid_encraw with xvid_encraw from v1.3.2. My guess is
that the (older) xvid_encraw binary bundled with megui had some custom
modification, which megui relies on. In this case, megui would need to
be updated to work with newer versions of xvid_encraw...

It is basically possible to implement OpenDML AVI also in xvid_encraw
directly. However to do so, we'd need to write our own AVI muxer. This
would bloat xvid_encraw's source code pretty much. And xvid_encraw is
mainly intended to be an example app, so its code should be simple.

Further, because xvid_encraw does not support audio encoding, you'll
still need to remux its output again anyway to add in your audio track.
So I think it's really most convenient to encode to a MPEG-4 elementary
stream ("-o output.m4v") and then remux (and also add audio) with an
OpenDML capable AVI muxing tool like Avi-Mux GUI if you need >2GB AVI.

Best regards,
Michael
original - http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/5821/xvidu.png

[kalehrl]

Zathor
Are you planning update to Xvid 132?

Sorry for my bad English.
Thanks!

It is possible to use xvid 1.3.2 in megui without it being officially supported.
Just replace existing xvid_encraw.exe and xvidcore.dll with files from 1.3.2 version. Also make sure you select 'none' in HVS masking and maybe add -masking 2 in 'custom command line' to be able to use VAQ (it is off by default I think).

http://i49.tinypic.com/vzecsi.png

http://i47.tinypic.com/2mmzb02.png

But new xvid is some 30% slower than 1.2.1, at least on my set-up.