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jamos
30th January 2008, 00:19
hey everyone in have a problem that i haven't been able to solve with searching. i'm trying to encode a mkv 1080p video to play on my ps3. i run it through mkv2vob (latest version) and it comes up with numerous buffer underrun errors and says its going to ignore them... okay. the program finishes no problem but when i g to play the resulting file, the beginning has some issues with studdering video and the audio goes out of sync. after like 5seconds or so the audio and video are both playing smoothly (and continue to do so for the whole movie) but the audio is 5-10seconds out of sync...

i've done the same process with other videos of equal size and they play fine, so i'm curious if this is a problem with the specific files or if my computer just can't handle transcoding them? :dunno:


This has been discussed many times. you probably manually need to adjust a offset using ffmpeg. It is a problem with your files that are causing this not mkv2vob or your computer.

Sean6293
30th January 2008, 00:48
This has been discussed many times. you probably manually need to adjust a offset using ffmpeg. It is a problem with your files that are causing this not mkv2vob or your computer.obviously i'm new to this. anyone able to help me further diagnose this problem? :(

Audioboxer
30th January 2008, 00:59
Is there anything you can do about low speech volume on the films?

A few films I've convered end up with sfx louder than speech. I guess it's because I'm just using my TV speaker for output, and the original file is 5.1 AC3?

Weird though, it only seems to be on one or two films, so it's not really that big an issue - And I can still hear things, it's not like its not watchable.

Quatre
30th January 2008, 03:53
3r1c, i ran a bunch of my mkv's through your mkv2vob and now you come out with your new version that has fast forward/rewind, i wanna be able to do the files with the new version now... what program could i use to undo what the old version did, so i can redo them with your new version?? or am i screwed lol

not sure if there is a way. you probably should have kept the original mkv file so that you could redo them now as a vob with ff/rw. if you wanted ff/rw with older version you could have forced the transcode to mpeg-2

Sean6293
30th January 2008, 04:56
i'm gonna try splitting my mkv up and checking the version of the h264 file. it needs to be 4.1 right?

WicKeDcHilD
30th January 2008, 05:48
3r1c, i ran a bunch of my mkv's through your mkv2vob and now you come out with your new version that has fast forward/rewind, i wanna be able to do the files with the new version now... what program could i use to undo what the old version did, so i can redo them with your new version?? or am i screwed lol

could try running the files through tsmuxer and see if that fixes it.

not sure if there is a way. you probably should have kept the original mkv file so that you could redo them now as a vob with ff/rw. if you wanted ff/rw with older version you could have forced the transcode to mpeg-2

i ran the file through mkvmerge and it seems to be working properly, i am just running it through mkv2vob right now, will post back when its done. I also had to set the fps to 23.976 in the mkvmerge because it was defaulting to 25, didnt know that till i just read it on the web before i converted and posted here Lol, was pissing me off, kept ending up with audio 3-4 seconds out of sync

mmace
30th January 2008, 10:37
Love the software as I've said, just wondered if you've considered a batch convert option?
I usually download a few things at once and have LOADS on my HDD all that need converting, would love to be able to just set them all going and leave the PC working away.

Honeyko
30th January 2008, 13:55
Thanks... you saved me a coster! ;)
I hate to sound horribly impertinent, but why burn plastic?

-- I'm assuming there's a means to merely play an ISO on one's ps3...???

The procedure would be something like:
1. mkv2vob
2. ImgTool-type utility
3. ISO player

WicKeDcHilD
30th January 2008, 13:57
well it seems to have worked, i went to bed and left it running, woke this morning and played it on pc and ps3 this morning and it seems to be good... I'm testing with a few more movies to make sure its actually working but it looks like it is! It did put the files back together properly so mkv2vob can find everything and fast forward/rewind is all good, its the sound/video sync im checking.

Edit:
just in case someone else wants to try it out

mkv2vob created files are named .mpg
i open up mkvmerge GUI 2.1.0 and load the file
i change the video frame rate to 23.976 ( or mkvmerge defaults to 25fps )
start the remux and wait till its done and is a brand new .mkv :)
then run it through mkv2vob like normal

DiRTDOG
30th January 2008, 15:03
3r1c, thanks for the update I have been getting that error on some of my .mkv's. Your hard work is much appreciated!!!

Is there a way to run mkv2vob in with more than one file, like a batch function?

Sgt.BigNuts
30th January 2008, 15:06
3r1c, thanks for the update I have been getting that error on some of my .mkv's. Your hard work is much appreciated!!!

Is there a way to run mkv2vob in with more than one file, like a batch function?

Brilliant program, but as said above , a batch option would be perfect, cheers :)

georgem67
30th January 2008, 16:07
well it seems to have worked, i went to bed and left it running, woke this morning and played it on pc and ps3 this morning and it seems to be good... I'm testing with a few more movies to make sure its actually working but it looks like it is! It did put the files back together properly so mkv2vob can find everything and fast forward/rewind is all good, its the sound/video sync im checking.

Edit:
just in case someone else wants to try it out

mkv2vob created files are named .mpg
i open up mkvmerge GUI 2.1.0 and load the file
i change the video frame rate to 23.976 ( or mkvmerge defaults to 25fps )
start the remux and wait till its done and is a brand new .mkv :)
then run it through mkv2vob like normal

mkv2vob files are vob not .mpg
how did you get .mpg files and load them to mkmerge?
if the ext was .mpg they should have ff/rewound anyway!
I also need to redo a few old vobs....how else would you suggest?

Cheers

WicKeDcHilD
30th January 2008, 16:25
mkv2vob creates .vob from mkv's, in order for me to use wmp11 to stream to my ps3 all i do is rename the .vob part of the file with .mpg, so wmp11 see's the files in my shared folder. They didnt have full fast forward and rewind support, actually no rewind support at all and only 1.5x fast forward. Which was annoying as hell, i couldnt even stop the movie and start it again at the same spot as when i turned it off. Now i can and it seems the audio and video is in sync but im still checking it to make sure. I'm watching a movie right now on the ps3 to make sure there isnt any drifting audio/video. If you had created your vob files with mkv2vob you should try what i am trying, just make sure to set the proper fps in the mkvmerge gui

hexperience
30th January 2008, 18:41
this thread and prog is really for playback on ps3 though via streaming and/or transfered to the ps3 internal hdd


I agree, I'm just trying to see if there is a bonus way to play stuff on my blu-ray player in another room. (Got it for free with my TV).

The main reason I want to put stuff on disc is simply to store it. Even if it only plays in the PS3 that is fine.

And I see in an earlier post that .vob does work if burnt to the /VIDEO folder.

hexperience
30th January 2008, 18:55
Anyone have this issue?

I ran an mkv through that had DTS audio, the result file stayed in audio sync by dropping video frames!

I suspect the orginal mkv, but thought I'd see if I'm not the only one seeing this?

Cheers

natronicus
31st January 2008, 00:32
I've seen comments in this thread stating there is a way to invoke this program from the command line, but I can't figure it out, and there's no readme.

How do you do it?

"mkv2vob infile.mkv outfile.vob" doesn't work.

3r1c
31st January 2008, 00:35
there are no command line options

Yaka
31st January 2008, 00:39
where are you guys downloading the latest version from?

ive been trying the one on the first post of this thread and is giving me errors when i unrar

Aamchi
31st January 2008, 02:04
Great Tool! Batch processing would be nice. Also the possibiliy of changing the temp directory would be great. I only have 1 GB free space on my windows partition :confused:

jamos
31st January 2008, 02:06
where are you guys downloading the latest version from?

ive been trying the one on the first post of this thread and is giving me errors when i unrar

there is nothing wrong with the .rar file. I just redownloaded it and tested it.

Yaka
31st January 2008, 02:12
well i uninsstaled win rar and re-installed it after a fresh boot its working now

no idea why it was giving me errors tho

jamos
31st January 2008, 02:19
Great Tool! Batch processing would be nice. Also the possibiliy of changing the temp directory would be great. I only have 1 GB free space on my windows partition :confused:

you can set your temp directory to another drive by changing your settings in xp in your
system properties->advanced options->Environment Variables. If you only have 1 gig. left on your windows partition I strongly advise you do so even if you do not use this program.
http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=settingsce8.png

jamos
31st January 2008, 02:22
well i uninsstaled win rar and re-installed it after a fresh boot its working now

no idea why it was giving me errors tho

glad to see you got it working!:)

LandCrab
31st January 2008, 03:25
Hi Quatre !,
I'm asking fro a little help here if that's ok ...
Could you tell me what program you use to transfer your files from PC to PS3 ... Is it TVersity or Red kawa? .

Reason is I've been using Red Kawa .. yet I find to transfer it to the PS3 the file extension needs to be changed from vob to (mpg) or else I get a error message. When it's copied I find the thumbnail doesn't work .

I've copied files directly to the PS3 off a disk as a vob and the thumbnails work. I'm guessing it's the file extension that causes the thumbnail not to work ?

Thanks again :)

jamos
31st January 2008, 04:01
Hi Quatre !,
I'm asking fro a little help here if that's ok ...
Could you tell me what program you use to transfer your files from PC to PS3 ... Is it TVersity or Red kawa? .

Reason is I've been using Red Kawa .. yet I find to transfer it to the PS3 the file extension needs to be changed from vob to (mpg) or else I get a error message. When it's copied I find the thumbnail doesn't work .

I've copied files directly to the PS3 off a disk as a vob and the thumbnails work. I'm guessing it's the file extension that causes the thumbnail not to work ?

Thanks again :)


not to answer for Quatre, but using tversity you can copy the file to the ps3 (using copy from the ps3) and it will have thumbnails (or previews) without even having to rename the file.

kazuo
31st January 2008, 06:39
This is the perfect app I was looking for my PS3. I no longer have to wait for Sony to support MKV. Of course it takes a bit of work, but it's well worth it. Much thanks! :)

LandCrab
31st January 2008, 09:25
Thanx Jamos!
Just what I wanted to hear ! I'll DL it and give it a whirl!
BTW does it work much like Red Kawa? with the ip address in the internet explorer on the PS3? :)

3r1c
31st January 2008, 09:49
tversity shows up under videos in the ps3, no need to enter any ip in the ps3 browser.

LandCrab
31st January 2008, 10:03
Damn you guys are so quick to reply ! Awesome . Yeah I was going to edit my last post .. I figured it out =)

**Hey thanx heaps 3r1c ! Your programme has made alot of happy people out there !Thanx to people like yourself this is at all possible. I can't emphasise it enough !! Not to mention the feed back
** Top notch **
:)

Irishkid
31st January 2008, 11:36
If I burn teh vob file on to a blue-ray disk can I play it on the ps3?

stewart1
31st January 2008, 13:19
thanks for the fine software was just wondering what dvd's i can burn the vobs on i have about 15 vobs and everyone is 30 to 40mb to big to fit on the dvd-r's

x400
31st January 2008, 14:44
thank you sooo much for this, cant believe i havent heard about it till now :)

hexperience
31st January 2008, 14:51
Anyone have this issue?

I ran an mkv through that had DTS audio, the result file stayed in audio sync by dropping video frames!

I suspect the orginal mkv, but thought I'd see if I'm not the only one seeing this?

Cheers

-Bump-

I've had this on a couple of different source files now...

Sorry if this has already been covered.

What happens is the video speeds up or skips frames in order to keep up with the audio. (At least that's what it looks like when you watch the file)

Anyone have this, or know how to "clean up" the source file?

Cheers

Sean6293
31st January 2008, 16:27
hey everyone in have a problem that i haven't been able to solve with searching. i'm trying to encode a mkv 1080p video to play on my ps3. i run it through mkv2vob (latest version) and it comes up with numerous buffer underrun errors and says its going to ignore them... okay. the program finishes no problem but when i g to play the resulting file, the beginning has some issues with studdering video and the audio goes out of sync. after like 5seconds or so the audio and video are both playing smoothly (and continue to do so for the whole movie) but the audio is 5-10seconds out of sync...

i've done the same process with other videos of equal size and they play fine, so i'm curious if this is a problem with the specific files or if my computer just can't handle transcoding them? :dunno:

hey guys i'm still having trouble with this. i tried taking my mkv and extracting the a/v streams then use mkvmerge to merge them back into one making sure to put 23.976 as the frame rate for the video and i'm still getting a bit of video stutter in the opening seconds of the clip followed by a smooth playing, but out of sync movie.


this is the mkvinfo for the file after i rejoined it w/ mkvmerge:


(MKVInfo) + EBML head at 0
(MKVInfo) |+ Doc type: matroska at 5
(MKVInfo) |+ Doc type version: 1 at 16
(MKVInfo) |+ Doc type read version: 1 at 20
(MKVInfo) + Segment, size 8532662568 at 24
(MKVInfo) |+ Seek head at 36
(MKVInfo) | + Seek entry at 41
(MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x15 0x49 0xa9 0x66 (KaxInfo) at 44
(MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 4099 at 51
(MKVInfo) | + Seek entry at 56
(MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x16 0x54 0xae 0x6b (KaxTracks) at 59
(MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 4261 at 66
(MKVInfo) | + Seek entry at 71
(MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x11 0x4d 0x9b 0x74 (KaxSeekHead) at 74
(MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 8532561134 at 81
(MKVInfo) | + Seek entry at 89
(MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x1c 0x53 0xbb 0x6b (KaxCues) at 92
(MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 8532515198 at 99
(MKVInfo) |+ EbmlVoid (size: 4025) at 107
(MKVInfo) |+ Segment information at 4135
(MKVInfo) | + Timecode scale: 1000000 at 4141
(MKVInfo) | + Muxing application: libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1 at 4148
(MKVInfo) | + Writing application: mkvmerge v2.1.0 ('Another Place To Fall') built on Aug 19 2007 13:40:07 at 4186
(MKVInfo) | + Duration: 8177.824s (02:16:17.824000000) at 4260
(MKVInfo) | + Date: Thu Jan 31 04:15:36 2008 UTC at 4267
(MKVInfo) | + Segment UID: 0xbc 0x53 0x6f 0x23 0xff 0xd2 0x9d 0xf5 0x93 0xcb 0x82 0xb0 0x7f 0x60 0x54 0x3d at 4278
(MKVInfo) |+ Segment tracks at 4297
(MKVInfo) | + A track at 4303
(MKVInfo) | + Track number: 1 at 4306
(MKVInfo) | + Track UID: 712587407 at 4309
(MKVInfo) | + Track type: video at 4316
(MKVInfo) | + Enabled: 1 at 4319
(MKVInfo) | + Default flag: 1 at 4322
(MKVInfo) | + Forced flag: 0 at 4325
(MKVInfo) | + Lacing flag: 0 at 4329
(MKVInfo) | + MinCache: 1 at 4332
(MKVInfo) | + Timecode scale: 1.000000 at 4336
(MKVInfo) | + Max BlockAddition ID: 0 at 4344
(MKVInfo) | + Codec ID: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC at 4348
(MKVInfo) | + Codec decode all: 1 at 4365
(MKVInfo) | + CodecPrivate, length 170 at 4368
(MKVInfo) | + Default duration: 41.708ms (23.976 fps for a video track) at 4542
(MKVInfo) | + Language: und at 4550
(MKVInfo) | + Video track at 4557
(MKVInfo) | + Pixel width: 1920 at 4559
(MKVInfo) | + Pixel height: 800 at 4563
(MKVInfo) | + Interlaced: 0 at 4567
(MKVInfo) | + Display width: 1920 at 4570
(MKVInfo) | + Display height: 800 at 4575
(MKVInfo) | + A track at 4580
(MKVInfo) | + Track number: 2 at 4582
(MKVInfo) | + Track UID: 2486764171 at 4585
(MKVInfo) | + Track type: audio at 4592
(MKVInfo) | + Enabled: 1 at 4595
(MKVInfo) | + Default flag: 1 at 4598
(MKVInfo) | + Forced flag: 0 at 4601
(MKVInfo) | + Lacing flag: 1 at 4605
(MKVInfo) | + MinCache: 0 at 4608
(MKVInfo) | + Timecode scale: 1.000000 at 4612
(MKVInfo) | + Max BlockAddition ID: 0 at 4620
(MKVInfo) | + Codec ID: A_AC3 at 4624
(MKVInfo) | + Codec decode all: 1 at 4631
(MKVInfo) | + Default duration: 32.000ms (31.250 fps for a video track) at 4634
(MKVInfo) | + Language: und at 4642
(MKVInfo) | + Audio track at 4649
(MKVInfo) | + Sampling frequency: 48000.000000 at 4651
(MKVInfo) | + Channels: 6 at 4657
(MKVInfo) | + A track at 4660
(MKVInfo) | + Track number: 3 at 4662
(MKVInfo) | + Track UID: 2095161757 at 4665
(MKVInfo) | + Track type: subtitles at 4672
(MKVInfo) | + Enabled: 1 at 4675
(MKVInfo) | + Default flag: 1 at 4678
(MKVInfo) | + Forced flag: 0 at 4681
(MKVInfo) | + Lacing flag: 0 at 4685
(MKVInfo) | + MinCache: 0 at 4688
(MKVInfo) | + Timecode scale: 1.000000 at 4692
(MKVInfo) | + Max BlockAddition ID: 0 at 4700
(MKVInfo) | + Codec ID: S_TEXT/UTF8 at 4704
(MKVInfo) | + Codec decode all: 1 at 4717
(MKVInfo) | + Language: und at 4720
(MKVInfo) | + A track at 4727
(MKVInfo) | + Track number: 4 at 4729
(MKVInfo) | + Track UID: 901411232 at 4732
(MKVInfo) | + Track type: subtitles at 4739
(MKVInfo) | + Enabled: 1 at 4742
(MKVInfo) | + Default flag: 0 at 4745
(MKVInfo) | + Forced flag: 0 at 4748
(MKVInfo) | + Lacing flag: 0 at 4752
(MKVInfo) | + MinCache: 0 at 4755
(MKVInfo) | + Timecode scale: 1.000000 at 4759
(MKVInfo) | + Max BlockAddition ID: 0 at 4767
(MKVInfo) | + Codec ID: S_TEXT/UTF8 at 4771
(MKVInfo) | + Codec decode all: 1 at 4784
(MKVInfo) | + Language: und at 4787
(MKVInfo) |+ EbmlVoid (size: 1024) at 4794
(MKVInfo) |+ Cluster at 5821

Yaka
31st January 2008, 19:20
do we need more than 2gb for this to work its magic? i did 2 4gb mkvs 2 vob and both are around 200mb:/

chubsta
31st January 2008, 21:30
do we need more than 2gb for this to work its magic? i did 2 4gb mkvs 2 vob and both are around 200mb:/

Im running it on a crappy old pc with 512mb of ram and it works great for me...

puppydg68
31st January 2008, 22:25
Since converting to TS/Vob increases the original size of the mkv, what ist he best way to cut the credits or something to get it to fit on a 4.3 DVD-5
h264ts cutter gives an error opening any of the resuling .TS or .M2TS of mkv converted.

SKAPiter
31st January 2008, 22:54
Great news about ff/rw working.

1. Multiple audio tracks.
2. Splitter for external HD (fat32)
3. Batch or Job Que

.. and let me know where to send the donation. :-)

Yaka
31st January 2008, 23:12
i meant do we need more than 2gb free on C:\ drive?

sorry about not being clear before

azyd
1st February 2008, 00:29
puppydg68

your best bet is to cut it b4 you convert, i cut the credits and anything thats b4 the main title.

i use http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/downloads.html


YAKA

you are going to need more that 2 gigs. if the movie is 4.5gigs you are going to need at least 9 gigs more if you have dts and have to convert to ac3

Sean6293
1st February 2008, 15:38
i'm still having trouble with this audio sync issue. anyone willing to point me in the direction of a proper FAQ or something?

x400
1st February 2008, 20:43
i get an error when it tries to mux the files.. it just says "error muxing" (short statement along those lines)


the file is 1080p with 1.5mb DTS audio if that helps

Audioboxer
1st February 2008, 23:22
-Bump-

I've had this on a couple of different source files now...

Sorry if this has already been covered.

What happens is the video speeds up or skips frames in order to keep up with the audio. (At least that's what it looks like when you watch the file)

Anyone have this, or know how to "clean up" the source file?

Cheers

Ahh I wondered why my copy of Ratatouille was doing that! (it is DTS audio)

Thing is mate, it only does it on the PS3, not PC.

Playback of the VOB file on the PC = Smooth in the places I seen it jump on the PS3.

x400
2nd February 2008, 00:37
i get an error when it tries to mux the files.. it just says "error muxing" (short statement along those lines)


the file is 1080p with 1.5mb DTS audio if that helps

i figured out my problem, i was running out of hard drive space..


but my problem now is.... the program is using my C:\ to place the temporary files into (like the audio streams etc)

but my c:\ is packed... i was hoping it would use the drive im saving to to place all those temp files into D:\ since that has 50gbs of free space


anyway in telling it where to put the temp files??

Sean6293
3rd February 2008, 01:10
hey guys, i'm still trying to figure out how to fix this audio sync issue. it only occurs with a few files that i try, most work fine. but its infuriating and i'd love it if someone could help me out with figuring out what to do with the few files that go out of sync.

Audioboxer
3rd February 2008, 02:31
hey 3r1c seeing as you use tsremuxer, do you plan on updating mkv2vob when new versions of tsremuxer come out?

http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.2.10.zip

just out

I thought about overwriting the tsremuxer.exe in mkv2vobs "tools" folder, but the large difference in size put me off.

I'll wait for your word on it!

Also I can confirm the DTS bug on every MKV I've tried - What happens is the sound plays untouched, but the video seems to get choppy/speed up for some reason - It does this on intervals, it's not consistent, and for me it ranges between a couple of seconds to 5-10 seconds. Everything remains in-sync after the choppiness stops.

Once it stopped my playback completely and returned to the XMB.

Audioboxer
3rd February 2008, 04:40
Just to update, I went ahead and replaced the tsremuxer.exe in the tools folder with an up to date one and it seems to work ok! (sorry 3r1c I was eager to update and see if it worked!)

I noticed you were using version 1.2.0 in MKV2VOB 1.52,

History
* Version 1.2.9
- Fixed MKV parsing module. Some MKV files did not work (lace sice invalid detected for xiph laces, this cause access violation error)
* Version 1.2.8
- Fixed AC3 stream detection. Some AC3 streams were not recognized (broken in version 1.2.6 only)
* Version 1.2.6
- Added Dolby True HD support
- Added MPEG audio layer 1/2/3 support
- Fixed a bug in the M2TS parsing module. Sometimes TS frames were lost.
- Fixed a bug in the Matroska parsing module. Short NAL unit len codes for H.264 tracks did not work.

A bug was fixed in 1.2.6 that IMO looks like it may be the one that causes the strange frame jump/speed up when an MKV with DTS is remuxed.

I'll report back my findings on DTS MKVs soon! (I'll go see if the movies I have still jump)

ps. I'm not sure what is new in version 1.2.10 yet?

Sean6293
3rd February 2008, 05:03
Just to update, I went ahead and replaced the tsremuxer.exe in the tools folder with an up to date one and it seems to work ok! (sorry 3r1c I was eager to update and see if it worked!)

I noticed you were using version 1.2.0 in MKV2VOB 1.52,



A bug was fixed in 1.2.6 that IMO looks like it may be the one that causes the strange frame jump/speed up when an MKV with DTS is remuxed.

I'll report back my findings on DTS MKVs soon! (I'll go see if the movies I have still jump)

ps. I'm not sure what is new in version 1.2.10 yet?

will this fix the audio sync issue with certain mkv's?

lchiu7
3rd February 2008, 09:28
What are you using to convert the AC3 to AAC? Something I would like to try and experiment with, but haven't found an elegant solution that is VISTA happy.

I just found eac3to and it does it in one step

eac3to %1.ac3 stdout.wav | neroaacenc -ignorelength -if - -lc -br 128000 -of %2.mp4

The resulting MP4 file (aac) is PS3 compliant.

And it works under Vista

Audioboxer
3rd February 2008, 16:37
will this fix the audio sync issue with certain mkv's?

I'm not sure what issue you mean, but the issue with MKV files with DTS audio doesn't seem to be fixed.

My copy of the matrix still suffers from the video speeding up at parts, but the audio remaining the same. (happens with Ratatouille and POTC as well)

:(