mkv2vob: New App to Remux MKV x264/AC3 which play on PS3

[3r1c]

I have created a program which will remux mkv with x264 video and AC3 audio to a vob file which is playable on the sony ps3.
No transcoding/recompression is done, the streams are simply split and mux into the vob.
Previously there was no way to get AC3 audio on the ps3, only AAC stereo.

Takes only a few mins to convert a file.

Download program
http://www.3r1c.eu/mkv2vob/mkv2vob.exe

Official Homepage
http://www.mkv2vob.com/

V2.4.5 18/Feb/2009
Added DTS can now be transcoded to AC3 in AVCHD mode (if you want to reduce filesize).
Fixed "unsupported" or "out of memory" error on ps3 with some split files.
Fixed old ac3 encoder which causes stuttering still used when downsampling/fixing ac3.
Fixed DVD-5 split sometimes a few bytes too large.

V2.4.4 16/Feb/2009
Added DTS can now be played from file without transcoding (Disc/Streaming). *
Added support for MKV with XviD/DivX video.
Fixed Drag and Drop not recognize ts and rar files.
Fixed AC3 skipping/stutter on some decoders.
Fixed Drag and Dropping a folder with "delete folder" checked may delete wrong folder.
Fixed "Error Transcoding Video" on MKV missing bitrate flag.
Fixed "Insufficient Disk Space" error when splitting to small fat32 drives.

* Do not change any settings in the ps3 that effects audio playback.
The PS3 must pass the DTS to your audio receiver untouched.
The options when you press triangle must be Audio: Left + Right and Volume: Normal.

V2.4.3 05/Feb/2009
Added support for SSA subtitles.
Added ability to browse network folders.
Added Drag and Drop support (both files and directories).
Added XviD transcodes are now XBOX 360 compatible with full 5.1 AC3 playback.
Added support for video with variable frame rate (it will be transcoded to CFR).
Added AVCHD 720p with height above 584 can now be converted without transcoding.
Added support for audio which is not 48Khz in AVCHD mode (eg. MP3).
Added "Use 448kbps AC3" will now downconvert 640kbps AC3.
Added detect if temp/dest folder is writable to avoid strange errors if its not.
Added detect and abort if temp folder is on a FAT32 formatted drive.
Added abort if "transcode: never" is selected and video would be unplayable.
Added display reason video is being transcoded. *
Added assume subtitles in mkv without a language flag is your preferred lanaguage.
Fixed runtime error in AVCHD mode if subtitles contain bad time codes.
Fixed error converting some DTS-ES tracks to AC3/PCM.
Fixed unable to choose a temp/dest directory in the root of an empty drive.
Fixed subtitles incorrectly displayed on DBCS windows (eg. traditional chinese).
Fixed error transcoding or very large output on non-english windows.
Fixed muxing failed on MAC when used in vmware.
Fixed audio lanaguage preference not working with vorbis/mp3.
Fixed parse error with some H.264 mkv's which were not encoded with x264.
Fixed PCM conversions which are larger then 4GB not working.
Fixed tsmuxer crash/partial output in AVCHD when subtitles contains long line.
Fixed no subtitles visible in AVCHD when first subtitle starts at 00:00:00
Fixed "Skip Already Converted" not detecting AVCHD conversions.
Fixed mencoder crash at end of some files.
Fixed detect if tsmuxer crashes for any reason during AVCHD muxing.

* Transcoding reason display:
REF = Too many reference frames (Not Level 4.1)
VFR = Variable Frame Rate
SUB = Subtitles
RES = Bad AVCHD resolution
CFG = You set transcode to Always

V2.4.2 22/Jan/2009
Added support for MPEG/L3 (MP3) audio.
Added "Use 448kbps AC3" option, for decoders that require it, 640kbps is the default.
Added "Use Old File Format" option (uses M2TS container like the old versions).
Restored "Output File Extension" option.
Fixed MKV file deleted + parse error if source is in a subfolder of the destination.
Fixed loader.exe deleted by some anti-virus scanners (false detection, there was no virus).
Fixed AVCHD mode transcoded all 720p files even if its not needed.
Fixed freeze/crash/error when output directory is a FAT32 file system.
Fixed check boxes in config tab looked strange on some windows themes.
Fixed progress bar not working in second stage of PCM transcoding.
Note: If you get green bar in AVCHD, press "Top Menu" on your remote.

V2.4.1 20/Jan/2009
Fixed Audio/Video transcoding fails on CPU's with more then 6 cores.
Fixed AVCHD mode results in Muxing Failed under some conditions.
Due to the PS3 downscales 720p which is not exactly 1280x720 in AVCHD mode to 480p, such videos are now transcoded and black bars added.
The green bar removal patch appears to work fine with odd resolution 1080p video so no transcoding needed.

V2.4.0 20/Jan/2009
Added AVCHD: Disc output mode (note: AVCHD is same as Blu-Ray so you can burn to BD-R too).
Added AVCHD: USB output mode (AVCHD on a usb drive).
Added AVCHD: USB output mode automatic splitting and playback for FAT32 without movie interruption.
Added AVCHD: DTS + Subtitles support without transcoding.
Added AVCHD: Automatically import chapter information from MKV.
Added AVCHD: Patch TSmuxeR AVCHD output to remove green bar without re-encoding.
Added AVCHD: Patch TSmuxeR AVCHD output to make subtitles play automatically.
Added AVCHD: Patch TSmuxeR AVCHD output to fix wrong m2ts file size indicator (causes freezing on splits).
Added x264 High Quality transcoding mode (almost lossless, file size is about 3x original),
Added option to convert incompatible audio to PCM instead of AC3 (requires HDMI audio decoder).
Added support for ASS subtitles.
Added Stop/Pause button.
Added detection of bad manual installation (cause of mkv parse error, please use the installer).
Added option to disable automatic update.
Added use standard Win32 API to run tools, should help with running in emulator on MAC/Linux.
Added support for DTS-ES audio.
Added support for VORBIS audio.
Added support for multi-core XviD encoding.
Improved x264 transcoding speed on multi-core processors.
Improved x264 transcoding speed by optimizing settings.
Fixed VirtualDubMod error when transcoding codec is set to XviD but no transcoding was required.
Fixed wrong audio codec muxed in XviD when the source mkv did not have an AC3 track.
Fixed progress bar not working in XviD muxing stage when no splitting required.
Fixed some letters missing in some subtitle languages.
Fixed Arabic subtitles not displayed correctly.
Fixed Unexpected Operation error on some files with AAC audio.
Fixed too big/small MPEG2 transcoded files.
Fixed file splitting was undersized by 2.34% (note: a little undersizing is normal).
Fixed "Installation ended prematurely" error with installer on some systems.
Fixed transcoded audio unplayable or with dropouts/clicks on some decoders.
Fixed various other minor bugs.
Removed file extension option, it is now set automatically (rename it manually if you want).
NOTE: PS3 Firmware 2.53 or higher is required, earlier version you will get no audio.

V2.3.2 2/Jan/2009
Fixed wrong subtitles when using SRT file.
Improved Automatic Level 4.1 detection

V2.3.1 23/Dec/2008
Fixed Overflow in DTS/AAC conversion.

V2.3.0 23/Dec/2008
Direct AAC to AC3 conversion (400% faster)
Direct DTS to AC3 conversion (300% faster)
H.264 level detection for files missing the x264 header. (eg. sample files)

V2.2.4 2/June/2008
Fixed bug where subtitle SRT filename that contained a comma would result in no subtitles in resulting conversion.
Disabled return code checking (this caused mencoder error for some people), instead its only treated as a warning of possible failure.
Improved "Repairing AC3" step, should keep all channels from the original ac3, this is a work-around to a tsmuxer bug, tsmuxer author please fix it!

V2.2.3 1/May/2008
Fixed some ac3 streams not accepted by tsmuxer (muxing failed error).
Added check if your windows regional settings interfere with math decimal functions and show a warning to change it (can cause disk space errors or out of sync if not fixed).
Added check on the return values of some tools, to better detect crashes that still result in a "success" status even though it failed.
Updated tsmuxer to 1.8.4(b)

V2.2.2 8/Apr/2008
Fixed sometimes xvid output not playable on ps3.
Fixed low quality x264 transcoding if source bitrate > 10mbps.
Other minor fixes.
Updated tsmuxer to 1.7.3(b)

V2.2.1 4/Apr/2008
Sorry in last version it was working fine then before uploading i updated tsmuxer to latest version which caused problems.
Fixed crash on .ts files (due to tsmuxer changed the format of the "stream info" line).
Downgraded tsmuxer to 1.6.3(b) due to bugs in latest version causing it to completely not work on some files.

V2.2.0 3/Apr/2008
Added multi-core transcoding support.
Added support for .TS as input file, will automatically join split .ts files in the format abc.0001.ts etc...
Added Hebrew subtitle support.
Added AAC 2 channel (stereo) support.
Fixed bug where rar set would not be deleted if you select the delete source option.
Fixed bug where some x264 transcoded files would be small filesize and very bad quality.
Updated tsmuxer to 1.7.2(b)

V2.1.2 26/Mar/2008
Added check if write access is allowed on temp and destination folder (would cause mkv parse error in previous versions).
Fixed "File not found" error.

V2.1.1 25/Mar/2008
Added option to increase subtitle size.
Added missing vorbis.dll and ogg.dll (for avi splitting).
Removed automatic xvid 2GB splitting as no longer needed with new ps3 firmware.
Updated tsmuxer to 1.6.3(b)
Splitting now uses tsmuxer's new split function for added speed.

V2.1.0 5/Mar/2008
Added XviD and x264 transcoding options.
Fixed wrong center/right channel order in AAC conversion.
Fixed some subtitle letters in latin character set incorrectly rendered (French, Spanish, etc...).
Fixed incorrect rendering of Chinese and Arabic characters.
Fixed out of sync on files mixed with NTSC video and PAL audio (untested, someone send me a sample if it doesnt work).
Work around tsmuxer bug with comma in file or directory name (causes Muxing Failed error).
Various other small code changes I forgot.


V2.0.5 26/Feb/2008
Updated tsmuxer to 1.3.6
Fixed Overscan Compensation not working.
Fixed SRT files not in UTF-8 special characters replaced with underscore.
Fixed Greek character encoding for subtitles.

V2.0.4 25/Feb/2008
Added Always Encode Subtitles option.
Added Load Subtitles from SRT option (put srt file in same folder as mkv with same name).
Added Overscan Compensation option (if subtitles look cut off on your tv).
Added more detailed descriptions for config options.
Added various other small improvements.
Fixed "Insufficient Disk Space" error where your decimal seperator of your OS is not a dot (some foreign windows versions).
Fixed "Type mismatch" run time error for some people.


V2.0.3 final 24/Feb/2008
Fixed broken AAC to DTS conversion.
Fixed error extracting mkv if audio is ac3 and subtitles on.
Final version, tested on xp working completely.

V2.0.2 beta 24/Feb/2008
Added subtitles support.
Removed need for h264info.
Updated tsmuxer.
Remux now 300-400% faster.
Updated disk space check to ignore 0 result, and provide a more detailed error.
Tweaked loader.exe so it does not set off nod32.

V2.0.1 beta 22/Feb/2008
Added boost AAC/DTS volume option.
Fixed overflow crash.
Fixed file splitting cut off after 2gb.

V2.0.0 beta 22/Feb/2008
Im making this a beta because its untested with windows xp (i only have vista)
Completely new GUI with tons of features so I probably forgot to list them all.
Allows set temp directory.
Set preferred audio language.
File splitting (FAT32, DVD-R etc...)
Select a rar file and it automatically unrar and convert the mkv.
Queue multiple files for batch processing.
Queue entire directory for batch processing.
Support files with AAC audio (converts to AC3).
Checks if enough free disk space before each step.
Faster mpeg2 transcoding.
Automatically checks for and downloads updates each time its started.
Fixed bug with mpeg2 stuttering in the beginning and then out of sync.
Fixed bug with files encoded with latest x264.exe might be unnecessarily transcoded.
KNOWN BUG: tsmuxer crashes after muxing mpeg2 video, i have worked around this for vista by autoclose the crash window, for xp you probably have to click end task manually.
KNOWN BUG: split files might have a few seconds of video corruption in the beginning, i dont know how to find the keyframes sorry, i worked around this by duplicating the first few seconds at the end of the previous file.
POSSIBLE BUG: The filesize used for splitting is done using file sizes from specifications on wikipedia, i have not tested if it actually fits on fat32,dvd-r etc..
WARNING: Be careful with the "delete file/folder" after convert option, it might not detect all possible failures/crashes of the conversion tools.

V1.5.3 03/Feb/2008
Improved MPEG2 Transcoding, should fix freeze at the start and out of sync.
Updated tsmuxer to latest version

V1.5.2 28/Jan/2008
Fixed bug with long filenames with DTS give "Error creating AC3 from WAV!"
DTS now recompresses to higher 640bit quality instead of 384bit.

V1.5.1 27/Jan/2008
Fixed muxing bug, 1.5 was completely non-functional sorry.

V1.5 27/Jan/2008
Added Fast forward/rewind support

V1.4.1 10/Jan/2008
Fixed V_MS/VFW/FOURCC error.
Added missing file pcrecpp.dll

V1.4 10/Jan/2008
Removed confusing yes/no prompt.
Added auto/always/never transcoding option.
Added some options to prevent audio out of sync when transcoding.

V1.3.1 20/Dec/2007
You will now be asked if you want to enable the mpeg2 transcoding option (click YES unless you split mkv into parts and you know it plays).
Fixed some bugs with mpeg2 transcoding where the audio is DTS.

V1.3 19/Dec/2007
Added detection of files that would be unplayable on ps3 (black screen) these files will now be transcoded to mpeg2.
Added 1080p support.

V1.2.1 25/Nov/2007
Fixed bug with foreign character sets which use , as a decimal seperator.

V1.2 16/Nov/2007
Fixed A/V sync problem if video framerate is not 23.976
Added DTS support (DTS is not playable by the ps3, but is converted to AC3 by the program)

[spida_singh]

Hi

Many thanks for this, will test and advise accordingly.:thanks:

:EDIT:

Please include dll files within package

Error message received if they are not present in tools route folder, I copied them over from xvid4psp program files folder, testing full 720p file.

[3r1c]

Thanks.
Rar updated to include dll files.

[guada2]

Hello 3r1c,

just a question:
Where can I find pthreadGC2.dll?

Thanks.

[Adub]

One word: Google

[guada2]

OK Merlin7777 :)

3r1c your program function.

but i have another question:
Have you tried to play a file.vob with format 160*112 on the sony ps3?

Do you know another player (except MPC) able to play your file?

Bye.

[spida_singh]

Hi

All ok once audio finishes, I then just get an error stating "Error extrackting from mkv!"

Any ideas why?

Regards

[3r1c]

It seems i had alot of the dll's in my system32 directory so i didnt know it was required to package them too.

I have now tested it on a seperate computer and included all the dlls including missing pthreadGC2.dll in the rar.

As for players i dont know.
This was done to allow playback on ps3 only.
I assume if your using a pc to playback you can just play the mkv without converting at all??

[3r1c]

Hi

All ok once audio finishes, I then just get an error stating "Error extrackting from mkv!"

Any ideas why?

Regards

Do you see the box counting up the % extracted in mkvextract?


"Error extracting from mkv" is when after running mkvextract the two output files (.h264 and .ac3) are missing, meaning the extact failed.

If you downloaded this earlier before my post 5 mins ago download and extract the rar again to make sure you have all the dlls.

[spida_singh]

Do you see the box counting up the % extracted in mkvextract?


"Error extracting from mkv" is when after running mkvextract the two output files (.h264 and .ac3) are missing, meaning the extact failed.

If you downloaded this earlier before my post 5 mins ago download and extract the rar again to make sure you have all the dlls.

Thanks, re testing now...

[spida_singh]

Still getting the same error at the same point, any suggestions why?

It gets to 99%, then shuts down?, temp files disappear

[3r1c]

are you sure the mkv has only one audio and one video stream, and that they are h264 and ac3?

copy/paste the text on the window before it gets to 99%

[3r1c]

Still getting the same error at the same point, any suggestions why?

It gets to 99%, then shuts down?, temp files disappear

Fixed "Error extracting from mkv" when the mkv is bigger then 2GB.

Found the problem when using it with one of my own files.
Previously i only tested it on 1.1gb files.

[djskribbles]

thank you! tried it out and it works. can't fastforward as you said but it works nonetheless. when i played it on my PC, the video was playing as if it were on fastforward, but i played it on my PS3 and it played fine.

i wish the PS3 just supported the mkv container.

edit: by "can't fastforward" i meant that you can, but it doesn't resume.

[~bT~]

a bit off topic: but does the 360 support these files as is or does it need remuxing too?

[SeeMoreDigital]

Interesting....

Could sombody upload a working test sample please?


Many thanks

[jagaskywalker]

Does it work with DTS audio tracks ?

Possible improvements:
Would it be possible to select the audio track in case there is more than one ?

Does it work with subtitles ?

[3r1c]

It didnt work on the xbox360.

The program should mux DTS, but if the ps3 plays it i dont know, i dont have any mkv with dts to test it.

It doesnt support subtitiles, i will see if i can include that soon and select audio track.

[spida_singh]

Everything runs through ok, but, when i try to play the output file on my pc, using media player classic, only the audio can be heard, no video, temp files again get deleted. The final file size is 4.42GB, any suggestions? :confused:

Regards

:::EDIT:::

Ignore above, everything worked perfect, streamed media through tversity fine, now get 5.1 ac3 and untouched h264

Thanks a lot for the program. Good work! One suggestion, when demuxing, can the program use the input folder as the temp directory for the raw h264 and ac3, it will speed up process if working on the same harddrive, as I have partitioned drives, the pc takes longer using my main drive to mux over the files onto a seperate drive.

Regards!

Image attached:thanks:

[akirax]

Not working.

I have a .mkv with video 23.976fps and audio 25fps when mkvextrct extract the a/v and then remux to .vob the video play desincronized.

[DiZzle.]

Hi there,

I'm new on this forum, i've already read a lot of threads on this forum to find a gui to convert and playback video files on my ps3, and this one works great for me. Thx!

One suggestion, changing avc level by using hexedit is a lot faster, maybe something for your app?

[3r1c]

Hi there,

I'm new on this forum, i've already read a lot of threads on this forum to find a gui to convert and playback video files on my ps3, and this one works great for me. Thx!

One suggestion, changing avc level by using hexedit is a lot faster, maybe something for your app?

I tried this method first, using seek and put to modify the bytes without creating a duplicate .h264 file, but the resulting file did not play back on the ps3.
Changing it with h264info was the only way that worked.

[3r1c]

Not working.

I have a .mkv with video 23.976fps and audio 25fps when mkvextrct extract the a/v and then remux to .vob the video play desincronized.

How can you have video/audio at different rates and expect it to play in sync?

All this program does is demux and mux.
It doesnt fix your audio so its the same length as video.
It doesnt care about or change the framerate or recompress or touch the video/audo in any way.
If your streams arent to spec in the first place, the output wont be either.
Your invalid file may work on your pc but the ps3 is very fussy about what it will play.

[djskribbles]

so do you know why you can't fastforward/rewind? is it at all possible to fix the issue? other than that, it worked flawlessly.

[akirax]

How can you have video/audio at different rates and expect it to play in sync?

All this program does is demux and mux.
It doesnt fix your audio so its the same length as video.
It doesnt care about or change the framerate or recompress or touch the video/audo in any way.
If your streams arent to spec in the first place, the output wont be either.
Your invalid file may work on your pc but the ps3 is very fussy about what it will play.

I´m from Spain.

I download a .mkv, when demux to h.264 the video is 23.976fps and the audio (spanish) .ac3 is 25fps. Then when mux into a .vob the a/v is desincronized. In the .mkv is sincronized, but when demux the .mkv lost the a/v Synchronization.

Sorry for my bad english.

[3r1c]

because vob does not support different a/v rates.
if you can give me a sample i will see if i can fix it

[Grimmi Meloni]

3r1c, would you mind sharing the ffmpeg commands your tool internally runs?

I have a script on my linux box, which does the same but reencodes the audio to AAC. I would like to adapt it.

What I basically do is:

- "mkvmerge -i" to get the info which track is what (audio/video)
- "mkvextract"
- change h264 level to 4.1
- decode ac3 with a52dec
- reencode audio with neroaac
- mp4box everything

From the tools that are included I think i just need the ffmpeg call you make.

Thanks!

[akirax]

because vob does not support different a/v rates.
if you can give me a sample i will see if i can fix it

Here is it:

http://rapidshare.com/files/65674336/S.P.3.x264.rar

Thank´s a lot 3r1c!

Regards.

[gigo979]

http://www.3r1c.eu/mkv2vob/mkv2vob.rar

link's dead ??

You can re-up??

Thanks
bye

[3r1c]

Here is it:

http://rapidshare.com/files/65674336/S.P.3.x264.rar

Thank´s a lot 3r1c!

Regards.

Fixed in v 1.2

[SeeMoreDigital]

Can anybody provide a "re-muxed" sample file yet?

[akirax]

Fixed in v 1.2

Thank you for your interest, but again the a/v is desincronized :confused:.

Regards.

[3r1c]

Thank you for your interest, but again the a/v is desincronized :confused:.

Regards.

It works for the sample file you gave me.

[hyperspaced]

Can you share with us the commands you use for demuxing & muxing? Especially for muxing back to VOB.

thanks.

[akirax]

It works for the sample file you gave me.


Umm...

When I play the sample in the PS3, the video is more quickly than the audio.

My PS3 is PAL.

Regards.

[3r1c]

Umm...

When I play the sample in the PS3, the video is more quickly than the audio.

My PS3 is PAL.

Regards.

Make sure you are playing from the beginning of the file and you have the 2.0 firmware.

I do not have a PAL ps3 to try this on, but they should play it the same, if not its a bug in the ps3 itself.

In the first version the sample you gave me played the video back slower (at 23.976 instead of 25 fps) this was corrected in the 1.2 fix, after the fix it played correctly for me.

I just double checked it again with your sample and it does indeed play back properly.

If your streaming through tversity make sure in Settings/Transcoder is set to "Never", save and restart.
Tversity sometimes tries to transcode the vob if set to "only when needed", this must not happen.

Here is the vob file that played for me, converted from your sample.
http://www.3r1c.eu/mkv2vob/25fps-sample.rar

[3r1c]

Can you share with us the commands you use for demuxing & muxing? Especially for muxing back to VOB.

thanks.

ffmpeg -r 23.976 -f h264 -i video.h264 -f ac3 -i audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob output.vob

[buzzqw]

the framerate is computed by analizing the media ... or not ?

BHH

[glen8]

Well done for being the first person to attempt this. I know of tons of people who would like to play .mkv on the ps3.

Unfortunately for me it doesn't work. Everything seems to go according to plan but the PS3 just tells me "no supported tracks" or something like that :(

[3r1c]

buzzqw: Framerate is got from mkvinfo.

glen8: No supported tracks sounds like you dont have the latest firmware 2.0. Renaming .vob to .mpg should make it show up, but i think only firmware 2.0 will be able to play it.

[glen8]

Thanks for the super quick reply. I didn't know sony had released a few firmware....I only checked the other week

Will go update now :D

:edit: Yep, I need a firmware update. Doing it now :-)

[glen8]

3r1c, I don't suppose you know how to convert hd-dvd to blu-ray so it will play on the PS3 do you?

I got as far as stripping the video/audio from the .evo and remuxing it back through tsremux to .m2ts/blu-ray structure but the result was very choppy.

I'm sure there's an easy way to do it.

Thanks!

[3r1c]

3r1c, I don't suppose you know how to convert hd-dvd to blu-ray so it will play on the PS3 do you?

I got as far as stripping the video/audio from the .evo and remuxing it back through tsremux to .m2ts/blu-ray structure but the result was very choppy.

I'm sure there's an easy way to do it.

Thanks!

Nope, i could never get any blu-ray that wasnt mpeg2 to play back on the ps3, even ones i made from my camcorder.

You have to recompress it to x264, but i never done this.

[Grimmi Meloni]

I gave your ffmpeg commandline a shot on my linux box, but no success. :-(

Has anyone else succeeded in doing this manually? All I get is "incompatible data" on my PAL ps3. I tried renaming the vob to mpg but the only difference is, that the ps3 tries to play it once and then afterwards says it's incompatible data.

3rc1 - What are the exact steps your software take? Are they based on some other tutorial?

So again - basically all I have to do is:
- extract the h264 and ac3 streams
- change the level of the video to 4.1
- ffmpeg it into a vob

Or am I missing something in between?

[3r1c]

I gave your ffmpeg commandline a shot on my linux box, but no success. :-(

Has anyone else succeeded in doing this manually? All I get is "incompatible data" on my PAL ps3. I tried renaming the vob to mpg but the only difference is, that the ps3 tries to play it once and then afterwards says it's incompatible data.

3rc1 - What are the exact steps your software take? Are they based on some other tutorial?

So again - basically all I have to do is:
- extract the h264 and ac3 streams
- change the level of the video to 4.1
- ffmpeg it into a vob

Or am I missing something in between?

thats what it does.

how are you changing the level to 4.1 without h264info which only runs on windows?

The hex method will not work in all my tests only changing with h264info will play on the ps3.

[Grimmi Meloni]

how are you changing the level to 4.1 without h264info which only runs on windows?


I had to implement my own editor. Basically it´s a java application which uses random access IO to get to the first few bytes and change the level. Anyway - I don´t think it´s connected to the level, since i use the same base streams for either vob or mp4. Only (but major :-) ) difference is that the streams work in an mp4 container, and in the vob it does not. OK, that and the ac3 vs. aac thing.

Anyway - I will give your tool a shot on my windows box, and see how it goes.

[3r1c]

Your level changer is definately the problem.

I tried this method first in my program, editing the bytes with random access, the ps3 wont play it.

[Grimmi Meloni]

Your level changer is definately the problem.

I tried this method first in my program, editing the bytes with random access, the ps3 wont play it.

Too bad, but I guessed so since h264info also takes quite some time to finish it´s job. Does anybody know what exactly h264info does change in the files - except for the level?

Another thing: I tried streaming the file of your app to my PS3 through fuppes. No luck there. I had to put it on a dvd-rw media, to make it work. So I guess there are two problems here. Well, one step at a time....

[ExSport]

to 3r1c:
Thanks for your great prog, tried it today on PlanetEarth 1080p.
What I found is that original resolution of MKV has 1920x1080 but "converted" VOB(it begins from H264 extraction) file has 1920x1088.
Maybe bug in Media Info, maybe the problem why on Ps3 there is a blank screen.
Tried to fix it with H264info to set it back to 1920x1080 but without success:-(
What resolution(1080p source) was your extracted H264 file or final VOB?
Thanks ExSport

EDIT:
I forgot one bug:-)
When you use regional settings which use decimal sign "," instead of "." then application will terminate with an error.
But it is maybe problem of used utilities, didn't tried them alone...

[akirax]

Make sure you are playing from the beginning of the file and you have the 2.0 firmware.

I do not have a PAL ps3 to try this on, but they should play it the same, if not its a bug in the ps3 itself.

In the first version the sample you gave me played the video back slower (at 23.976 instead of 25 fps) this was corrected in the 1.2 fix, after the fix it played correctly for me.

I just double checked it again with your sample and it does indeed play back properly.

If your streaming through tversity make sure in Settings/Transcoder is set to "Never", save and restart.
Tversity sometimes tries to transcode the vob if set to "only when needed", this must not happen.

Here is the vob file that played for me, converted from your sample.
http://www.3r1c.eu/mkv2vob/25fps-sample.rar

Your sample works, but when I make is desincronized.

I play from the beginning of the file and I have the 2.0 firmware.

I download the mkv2vob.rar at this moment (not old version), extract, open mkv2vob.exe, select a .mkv (spiderman sample), I select the output name .vob, save, wait to finish.

I burn the sample to a DVD-RW and then play from there or copy to the HD of PS3 and is desincronized.

In my computer also is desincronized.

I need special codec pack?

Regards.

[dd03pehe]

First I must thank you for a great app! I have been waiting for an app like this for a very long time now.

I have the exactly the same issue as akirax. On the files I made myself the video plays fast the first 10 seconds and then becomes choppy and the a/v is out of sync. On your files, however, it works perfect.

I have only tried on 2 files so far but I will investigate it some more during the day and see if I can find whats causing it.

I also got the 'no titles' problem where I cant see the .vob files on my USB memory. But I did just set it to display all and then it worked fine.

Im on a PAL PS3 with 2.0 firmware.


Regards,

[dd03pehe]

Strange.. If I click display on my PS3 during the playback it cant calculate the bitrate on my files. It says - kbps on both the audio and the video. On your file (the heroes sample) it can calculate without problems.

Regards,

[glen8]

ok, I converted two tv shows lastnight from .mkv to .vob

I burnt them onto a dvd and watched both on my PS3

I'm 99% happy. The only problem is that it sometimes goes slightly out of sync. It seems to be around the middle but usually goes back in sync again :confused:

[SeeMoreDigital]

Thanks very much for the sample 3r1c... :)


Cheers

[dd03pehe]

Yay. I got it to work now :-)
What I did was
1. Extract the .mkv to .h264 and .ac3 with MKVExtractGui
2. Change level to 4.1 with h264info_alpha0011.
IMPORTANT: If I used the alpha 12 version It didnt work!
3. Mux it together with your ffmpeg line: ffmpeg -r 23.976 -f h264 -i video.h264 -f ac3 -i audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob output.vob

Thats it. I only tried on a 50MB 720p.mkv though, will try on something bigger now.

[ExSport]

2. Change level to 4.1 with h264info_alpha0011.
IMPORTANT: If I used the alpha 12 version It didnt work!


And what about Alpha 13?

[dd03pehe]

And what about Alpha 13?

Sorry I meant the alpha 13. The one that came bundled with the mkv2vob.rar didnt work or me. With alpha 11 it works perfect.

[dd03pehe]

Works to stream from an UPnP media server aswell :) Watching my new created vobs from my server now and it works like a charm. I have never been as happy with my PS3 as I am today!

[wizziwig]

I have not tried it on a PS3 but I'm surprised that it plays these files. I looked at the 720p sample on your site and it didn't play on any Windows player I tried (mplayer, vlc, powerdvd, etc.). I only get audio.

Has anyone been able to play these files on anything but a PS3?

[glen8]

Just converting another .mkv now which is a 2hr 720p movie. It is coming up with the message 'buffer underflow, packet too large'. It looks like it's muxing it anyway so I'll let it carry on and test it when finished.

To the poster above, I haven't tested them on the PC but will do and report back

[dd03pehe]

I have not tried it on a PS3 but I'm surprised that it plays these files. I looked at the 720p sample on your site and it didn't play on any Windows player I tried (mplayer, vlc, powerdvd, etc.). I only get audio.

Has anyone been able to play these files on anything but a PS3?

They didnt work on my PC when I tried. Only audio for me aswell.

[_leech_]

Any progress on getting 1080p content working?

[3r1c]

to 3r1c:
Thanks for your great prog, tried it today on PlanetEarth 1080p.
What I found is that original resolution of MKV has 1920x1080 but "converted" VOB(it begins from H264 extraction) file has 1920x1088.
Maybe bug in Media Info, maybe the problem why on Ps3 there is a blank screen.
Tried to fix it with H264info to set it back to 1920x1080 but without success:-(
What resolution(1080p source) was your extracted H264 file or final VOB?
Thanks ExSport

EDIT:
I forgot one bug:-)
When you use regional settings which use decimal sign "," instead of "." then application will terminate with an error.
But it is maybe problem of used utilities, didn't tried them alone...

The video stream is only extracted and copied, its not recompressed so its impossible the resolution has changed.

The problem must be with whatever tool you used to check it is giving you the wrong size.

Where are you reading the res from?

Please explain what you mean by regional settings?
Where is a , used instead of . ?

[3r1c]

I have not tried it on a PS3 but I'm surprised that it plays these files. I looked at the 720p sample on your site and it didn't play on any Windows player I tried (mplayer, vlc, powerdvd, etc.). I only get audio.

Has anyone been able to play these files on anything but a PS3?

the whole purpose of this program is to allow it to be played on the ps3. you can just watch an mkv on your pc without any conversion.

It probably wont play in any program, the fact it plays on the ps3 at all is pure luck becuase h264 in vob is non standard.

[3r1c]

Your sample works, but when I make is desincronized.

I play from the beginning of the file and I have the 2.0 firmware.

I download the mkv2vob.rar at this moment (not old version), extract, open mkv2vob.exe, select a .mkv (spiderman sample), I select the output name .vob, save, wait to finish.

I burn the sample to a DVD-RW and then play from there or copy to the HD of PS3 and is desincronized.

In my computer also is desincronized.

I need special codec pack?

Regards.

The only thing i can think of is one of the dll's in the tools folder is already installed on your pc system32 folder or registered by some other program and its using that one instead of the proper one.

Copy all the dll files from the tools folder to your c:\windows\system32 overwrite any existing.

Right click on the mkv2vob.exe and goto properties, make sure version is 1.2.0

[3r1c]

Any progress on getting 1080p content working?

ill do some testing. i think the problem with 1080p is that vob cant handle the high bitrate.

[ExSport]

The video stream is only extracted and copied, its not recompressed so its impossible the resolution has changed.

The problem must be with whatever tool you used to check it is giving you the wrong size.

Where are you reading the res from?

Please explain what you mean by regional settings?
Where is a , used instead of . ?
I know that video is not recompressed, MKV file has 1920x1080 resolution but when you extracted video track(H264) then it has 1920x1088 and also final VOB has 1920x1088.
You can try yourself with this sample.
SAMPLE MKV (http://rapidshare.com/files/70532033/Planet.Earth.01.From.Pole.to.Pole.2006.1080p.HDDVD.x264-AJP-sample.mkv.html)
Tried to change it to 1920x1072 with H264info but again blank screen.
For file info I use newest MediaInfo (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net)
With regional settings I mean that when you change this settings in Control Panel to e.g. Czech, then for decimal separator is used "," instead of "." so when program e.g. divides, you will see divide by zero or similar error because eg. 4,23 is not interpreted as 4.23, understand me now?:)
But as I said, maybe it is bug in used utilities and not your prog:)
And thanks for your work!

[ExSport]

the whole purpose of this program is to allow it to be played on the ps3. you can just watch an mkv on your pc without any conversion.

It probably wont play in any program, the fact it plays on the ps3 at all is pure luck becuase h264 in vob is non standard.
No problem to play it on my PC.
For H264 videos I use CoreAVC decoder and Media Player Classic.

[Has123]

I have not tried it on a PS3 but I'm surprised that it plays these files. I looked at the 720p sample on your site and it didn't play on any Windows player I tried (mplayer, vlc, powerdvd, etc.). I only get audio.

Has anyone been able to play these files on anything but a PS3?

Those play with Haali splitter mpg checked and CoreAVC in MPC.

[Has123]

the whole purpose of this program is to allow it to be played on the ps3. you can just watch an mkv on your pc without any conversion.

It probably wont play in any program, the fact it plays on the ps3 at all is pure luck becuase h264 in vob is non standard.

Would it make more sense to mux into an mp4 container instead?

[SeeMoreDigital]

It probably wont play in any program, the fact it plays on the ps3 at all is pure luck becuase h264 in vob is non standard.Instead of placing the streams into the .VOB container, how about placing them into the .EVO container?

[Has123]

Instead of placing the streams into the .VOB container, how about placing them into the .EVO container?

Really the best container for ps3 will be a ts/m2ts. I do not think the ps3 can play evo files.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Really the best container for ps3 will be a ts/m2ts. I do not think the ps3 can play evo files.In that case I guess TSremux or VLC player could be used...

[Has123]

In that case I guess TSremux or VLC player could be used...

Sony is working on a fix for firmware 2.0 as many users have problems with it and also on support for DIVX so I think we should wait and not transcode/remux our libraries as the ps3's file support is a work in progress. eg I reencoded a h264 ts 1080i to mpg 1080p worked perfectly on fw 1.93 and not on fw 2.0 and now the original file works perfect on fw 2.0.
TSRemux does not work with h264 mkv, only with mpg mkv according to the author.

[3r1c]

mp4 would be better except that ps3 does not play AC3 in mp4 so you would have to convert your audio to stereo 2.0.

VOB method is only way the ps3 will play h264 and AC3 5.1.

[Has123]

Certainly ts/m2ts support h264 AC3 5.1 and high bitrate.

[3r1c]

Certainly ts/m2ts support h264 AC3 5.1 and high bitrate.

yes but the ps3 wont play them.

even if you take a h264/ac3 bluray which plays, take the m2ts file and try to play it directly and ps3 wont play it.

[3r1c]

I know that video is not recompressed, MKV file has 1920x1080 resolution but when you extracted video track(H264) then it has 1920x1088 and also final VOB has 1920x1088.
You can try yourself with this sample.
SAMPLE MKV (http://rapidshare.com/files/70532033/Planet.Earth.01.From.Pole.to.Pole.2006.1080p.HDDVD.x264-AJP-sample.mkv.html)
Tried to change it to 1920x1072 with H264info but again blank screen.
For file info I use newest MediaInfo (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net)
With regional settings I mean that when you change this settings in Control Panel to e.g. Czech, then for decimal separator is used "," instead of "." so when program e.g. divides, you will see divide by zero or similar error because eg. 4,23 is not interpreted as 4.23, understand me now?:)
But as I said, maybe it is bug in used utilities and not your prog:)
And thanks for your work!

I checked it and its definately a bug in mediainfo.
Both h264info and ffmpeg correctly read the .h264 file as 1920x1080.

Maybe ps3 makes the same mistake and thats why it wont play it, but i dont know.

[Has123]

yes but the ps3 wont play them.

even if you take a h264/ac3 bluray which plays, take the m2ts file and try to play it directly and ps3 wont play it.

My ps3 plays ts and m2ts(through TSRemux) with fw 2.0 though my source is not bluray ( 1440x1088i h264 with 5.1 AC3 ts files from a moded dish receiver).

[SeeMoreDigital]

I checked it and its definately a bug in mediainfo.
Both h264info and ffmpeg correctly read the .h264 file as 1920x1080.

Maybe ps3 makes the same mistake and thats why it wont play it, but i dont know.Sounds as though the original AVC video stream was encoded using mod-16 resolutions (like many broadcast MPEG-2 video streams), complete with an 1080 sequence header.


Cheers

[3r1c]

Sounds as though the original AVC video stream was encoded using mod-16 resolutions (like many broadcast MPEG-2 video streams), complete with an 1080 sequence header.


Cheers

i dont think so, the source is hddvd which is definately 1080 and not 1088.

could it be the encoder is encoding at 1088 and then lies that its 1080?
what would cause that to happen?

[akirax]

The only thing i can think of is one of the dll's in the tools folder is already installed on your pc system32 folder or registered by some other program and its using that one instead of the proper one.

Copy all the dll files from the tools folder to your c:\windows\system32 overwrite any existing.

Right click on the mkv2vob.exe and goto properties, make sure version is 1.2.0

This is the problem:

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee130/akirax23/25fps.jpg

25000fps, Can you change to 25 like this picture?

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee130/akirax23/4.jpg

I try with 25 and is perfect.

Regards!

[pepperisback]

So after a week of waiting to write here something down and testing I have found a solution for me and also a question.
At first when I tested mkv2vob the video played very fast but the audio normal. So mkv2vob doesn`t work for me. I had to do it step by step with the programs which you have used.
I have two mkv videos here at home. The first one worked only when I typed 25 frames and 4.1 in h264info and the other one only worked when I leave frames blank and type only 4.1.
The Spiderman Samply from you only worked with 25 frames. So can you tell me how can I found out if i have to choose 25 frames or to leave the field blank?

Thank You!

[akirax]

So after a week of waiting to write here something down and testing I have found a solution for me and also a question.
At first when I tested mkv2vob the video played very fast but the audio normal. So mkv2vob doesn`t work for me. I had to do it step by step with the programs which you have used.
I have two mkv videos here at home. The first one worked only when I typed 25 frames and 4.1 in h264info and the other one only worked when I leave frames blank and type only 4.1.
The Spiderman Samply from you only worked with 25 frames. So can you tell me how can I found out if i have to choose 25 frames or to leave the field blank?

Thank You!

When the video is 23.976 (usa) and audio 25fps (spanish) you need to put 25 in h264info, else if the .mkv is a usa (audio and video) you don´t need to put 25, just leave it in blank.

Regards.

[djskribbles]

anyway to split the vob file in half? i have a file thats the size of a DL disc but i don't want to use a DL disc just to transfer it to my PS3.

[puppydg68]

Hi there, I just tried both a 720p MKV and 1080 MKV with AC3 audio x264
and the mk2vob worked okay without error, however when I stream it to my PS3, I get a blackscreen.. The audio works fine.

the resulting vob plays fine on the computer with MPC

Any ideas?

ps. after Firmware 2.01 is it possible to play H264+ac3 in a .TS or m2ts container? Most of my DVB stuff is like this.

[Has123]

Hi there, I just tried both a 720p MKV and 1080 MKV with AC3 audio x264
and the mk2vob worked okay without error, however when I stream it to my PS3, I get a blackscreen.. The audio works fine.

the resulting vob plays fine on the computer with MPC

Any ideas?

ps. after Firmware 2.01 is it possible to play H264+ac3 in a .TS or m2ts container? Most of my DVB stuff is like this.

Sure, and you probably should try that first. Just run your files through TSRemux ts or m2ts option (for some reason I need to do this step for the audio part to play). Actually the ps3 now has the capability to play h264 ts 1080i (PAFF).

[puppydg68]

Sure, and you probably should try that first. Just run your files through TSRemux ts or m2ts option (for some reason I need to do this step for the audio part to play). Actually the ps3 now has the capability to play h264 ts 1080i (PAFF).

This is what is strange any DVB stuff I have H264+ac3 in a TS container will not play, either tversity wants to transcode it or it shows data corrupted. Even after transcoding to M2TS. But of course BD-Rips play fine. So I know PS3 is capable of it, why won't any of the H264 DVB stuff run out of the TS or M2TS container.

Any idea why all of my converted mkv's come out with a black screen using MKV2VOB when played on PS3, tried at least 3 different clips.. The included vob sample works, but none of the ones I convert myself.

[Has123]

did you try the remuxed ts file from an external HDD or disable Tversity transcoding?

[3r1c]

In my testing i have found that if the video is 23.976 fps you must leave the framerate box blank in h264info. typing in 23.976 in the box will make it play wrong.

If the video is 25 fps you must type 25 in the framerate box.

mkv2vob does this automatically, but if your pc is set to use a comma (,) instead of a dot (.) as a decimal sparator, it wont work properly, because round(25,000) becomes 25000 instead of 25 as it would with round(25.000).

The ps3 firmware 2.01 has no new functions, it is a bug fix only.

[krisq]

I'm getting an error

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9822/clipboard02gz6.jpg

It happens just after I define destination for output.

[3r1c]

Fixed bug with , as decimal seperator.

[krisq]

Fixed bug with , as decimal seperator.

Apparently that was it :D. Thanks!

[3r1c]

Apparently that was it :D. Thanks!

Excellent, actually this was something reported during the week, when i looked at your error message i did not know it was related.

I guess i killed two birds with one stone here :)

[puppydg68]

Excellent, actually this was something reported during the week, when i looked at your error message i did not know it was related.

I guess i killed two birds with one stone here :)

Do you have any idea why the PS3 has a black screen when I convert the MKV to VOB using your application? The heroes demo vob plays okay.

I've tried both 720 and 1080 MKV sources which are x264+ac3. Sound plays fine and in 5.1, just an all black screen.. The resulting vob plays on MPC. I've tried on 2 different machines, vista and xp.
I'll pm a test clip.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Do you have any idea why the PS3 has a black screen when I convert the MKV to VOB using your application?Maybe some tweaks are required to the "buffer underflow" rates....

[akirax]

Fixed bug with , as decimal seperator.


Thank´s a lot!!!:thanks::thanks::thanks:

Best regards!

[3r1c]

Do you have any idea why the PS3 has a black screen when I convert the MKV to VOB using your application? The heroes demo vob plays okay.

I've tried both 720 and 1080 MKV sources which are x264+ac3. Sound plays fine and in 5.1, just an all black screen.. The resulting vob plays on MPC. I've tried on 2 different machines, vista and xp.
I'll pm a test clip.

1080p wont work at all, i cant get it to work even doing it manually. i believe its because x264 encodes at 1088p and then spoofs it as 1080p, and ps3 wont accept this. (1080 is not a multiple of 16 which some codecs dont like).

720p works, i only ever had one file that showed the black screen.

if you can provide a sample of a 720p that wont play i will try to fix it.

[puppydg68]

Check your PM, 2nd link is 720p. I'll post another one for you as well.

[3r1c]

I cant find any problem with your sample.
It converts and plays properly on ps3.

Make sure your using latest ps3 firmware and also the new mkv2vob with the bug fix today.

[Sickboy6th]

I have been converting my libraries to MP4, AAC5.1 and im happy with that option except that its AAC5.1 and not AC3 5.1 and my audio decoder doesn't support AAC lol.

Im using the above method because fast-forward/backward seeking is always screwing up when im using a vob. If anyone is able to fix that I would be a happy camper as I can switch back to vob with AC3 :)

[3r1c]

unlikely it will be fixed, the fact it works at all is a surprise. do you really need to ff/rw a movie? in 2 years using xbox360 and ps3 to watching transcoded movies (which cant ff/rw) i never needed to anyway.

[KnoKo]

Hi 3r1c!
Thanks for this nice and easy app. Works great so far...

But bigger movies don't work for me, because my drive C is not big enough and so the temp-folder is too small.

Would it be possible to add a option to choose a different temp-folder on a different drive?

[3r1c]

well i found the problem with why 1080p and some 720p dont play.

its because they were encoded with the "--me umh" option to x264 which ps3 does not support.

Im not sure if this is a ps3 bug, or is umh mode not part of the official 264 specs?
There is no fix, stream must be re-encoded.

I will add detection to the next version.


Heroes.s02e10.720p.x264-dimension DOESNT PLAY on ps3
x264 - core 56 svn-680 - H.264/MPEG-4 AVC codec - Copyleft 2005 - http://www.videolan.org/x264.html - options: cabac=1 ref=7 deblock=1:-2:-1 analyse=0x3:0x133 me=umh subme=6 brdo=1 mixed_ref=1 me_range=16 chroma_me=1 trellis=1 8x8dct=1 cqm=0 deadzone=21,11 chroma_qp_offset=0 threads=6 nr=0 decimate=1 mbaff=0 bframes=3 b_pyramid=1 b_adapt=1 b_bias=0 direct=3 wpredb=1 bime=1 keyint=250 keyint_min=25 scenecut=40(pre) rc=2pass bitrate=3388 ratetol=1.0 rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' qcomp=0.60 qpmin=10 qpmax=51 qpstep=4 cplxblur=20.0 qblur=0.5 ip_ratio=1.40 pb_ratio=1.30

House.s04e09.720p.x264-dimension PLAYS on ps3
x264 - core 56 svn-680 - H.264/MPEG-4 AVC codec - Copyleft 2005 - http://www.videolan.org/x264.html - options: cabac=1 ref=4 deblock=1:-2:-1 analyse=0x3:0x133 me=hex subme=6 brdo=1 mixed_ref=0 me_range=16 chroma_me=1 trellis=1 8x8dct=1 cqm=0 deadzone=21,11 chroma_qp_offset=0 threads=6 nr=0 decimate=1 mbaff=0 bframes=3 b_pyramid=1 b_adapt=1 b_bias=0 direct=3 wpredb=1 bime=1 keyint=250 keyint_min=25 scenecut=40(pre) rc=2pass bitrate=3170 ratetol=1.0 rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' qcomp=0.60 qpmin=10 qpmax=51 qpstep=4 cplxblur=20.0 qblur=0.5 ip_ratio=1.40 pb_ratio=1.30

[buzzqw]

the problem isn't uhm (afaik) but the high profile ( 8x8dct=1)

BHH

[Grimmi Meloni]

the problem isn't uhm (afaik) but the high profile ( 8x8dct=1)

Sure? I mean, they both have 8x8dct=1 set. Why should this make a difference, then?

[pausefisk]

Would it be possible to add .srt subtitles in this process?? Anyone know what the command line for ffmpeg would be if it can be added into?

[foxyshadis]

If umh causes a problem, then you'll need to restrict the mvrange - I don't know to what, sorry, you'll need to test. UMH can cause longer motion vectors for the same me range, because it jumps further than hex (and hex further than dia) with each step, and ESA can end up anywhere. x264 is within the standard (well, it was .25 off in one restriction until r679) but not all playback devices can handle the full range, this is a level restriction. (PS3 shouldn't whine since it's 4.1, but you never know.) See this notice (http://lists.mpegif.org/pipermail/mp4-tech/2005-April/005152.html) for starters.

[krisq]

AFAIR with v1.82 High Profile support was added to ps3.

[zwirek75]

Well
I tried to use the application, but it seems I failed.
After I open a .mkv file it starts mediainfo, then does demuxing abd starts h264info utilty. But the utility is started eleven times and the main application is stopping with a message like "ERROR: Cannot find h264info window!"
Any clues ?
Tomasz

[3r1c]

Well
I tried to use the application, but it seems I failed.
After I open a .mkv file it starts mediainfo, then does demuxing abd starts h264info utilty. But the utility is started eleven times and the main application is stopping with a message like "ERROR: Cannot find h264info window!"
Any clues ?
Tomasz

h264info doesnt have any command lines, so i used windows api to find its window handle and send keyboard keys to it.

It runs the h264info program and then gets a list of running processes, cycles through them till it finds one where the parent pid is itself.

Some antivirus dont like when one application tries to control another in this way and could be blocking it.

[ultratoto14]

well i found the problem with why 1080p and some 720p dont play.

its because they were encoded with the "--me umh" option to x264 which ps3 does not support.

Im not sure if this is a ps3 bug, or is umh mode not part of the official 264 specs?
There is no fix, stream must be re-encoded.

I will add detection to the next version.


Heroes.s02e10.720p.x264-dimension DOESNT PLAY on ps3


House.s04e09.720p.x264-dimension PLAYS on ps3


In my library, i found that umh is not the problem but the number of reference frames in case of umh. Lower or equal to 6 works. Each file that does not work on PS3 has umh and ref >= 7.

[SKAPiter]

3r1c, thanks for the great tool!

Question: Is it possible to mux 2 or more audio tracks into the vob? If yes, can you provide such support in the new version? If for some reason you're not interested in supporting multiple audio tracks in your app, can you please give me the ffmpeg command line to do this manually?

Thanks in advance!

[3r1c]

The ps3 wont play vob's with multiple audio tracks.

[KnoKo]

Big movies don't work for me, because my drive C is not big enough and so the temp-folder is too small.

Would it be possible to add a option to choose a different temp-folder on a different drive?

[Stathis]

Thank for this great prog.
Would it be possible to add .srt subtitles in this process?????

[fonkee1]

How do I split the final VOB into less than 4GB pieces so I can run them off external hdd to PS3? thanks in advance

[rsaini]

How do I split the final VOB into less than 4GB pieces so I can run them off external hdd to PS3? thanks in advance

I split the mkv file into a h264 and ac3 file using mkvewizard, then join them together using mkvmerge...there's an option in there to split the file when it hits a certain file size, so I split at 3750 MB, then use mkv2vob to convert both mkv's and your set.

[Jorgensen]

I split the mkv file into a h264 and ac3 file using mkvewizard, then join them together using mkvmerge...there's an option in there to split the file when it hits a certain file size, so I split at 3750 MB, then use mkv2vob to convert both mkv's and your set.

I have the same problem as fonkee1. The solution you mention, how long time does that proces take?

It would be easier if mk2vob could split them at a certain size.

[Bigmango]

How do I split the final VOB into less than 4GB pieces so I can run them off external hdd to PS3? thanks in advance

Tssplitter is a very good tool to do this, you can also join them back later if you need:

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/TSSplitter

[fonkee1]

Tssplitter is a very good tool to do this, you can also join them back later if you need:

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/TSSplitter

Thanks. However, I tried it out and anything after the 1st split is corrupted data on the PS3. I'll try the MKV split.

[Bigmango]

Thanks. However, I tried it out and anything after the 1st split is corrupted data on the PS3.

Strange... all of the vobs (avc+ac3, muxed with ffmpeg) I've split with tssplitter play fine on the ps3.

[fonkee1]

Strange... all of the vobs (avc+ac3, muxed with ffmpeg) I've split with tssplitter play fine on the ps3.

I took the x264/AC3 and ran it through mkv2vob and TSS splitter last. Do I have to MUX with ffmpeg before TSSsplitter? If so, how do I that? thanks

btw,

splitting the mkv file, then doing mkv2vob outputted out of sync video/audio files on anything after the first file.

[rsaini]

I have the same problem as fonkee1. The solution you mention, how long time does that proces take?


I think roughly 10 minutes to split the files, and another 10 minutes to merge them

[fonkee1]

Strange... all of the vobs (avc+ac3, muxed with ffmpeg) I've split with tssplitter play fine on the ps3.

Do I have to rename *.vob movie to *.ts, split it with tss, then rename back to vob maybe? thanks

[djskribbles]

tried tssplitter and same result -- first file was recognized and played, but the second and third files were corrupt.

i'm trying rsaini method as i already have mkvextractgui and mkvtoolnix/mkvmerge right now. i don't see why this wouldn't work but it would be nice if tssplitter worked as it would save the step of demuxing the h264 and ac3 streams then muxing them back just to split them.

[ultratoto14]

It is not mandatory to extract h264 and ac3 and remux them for splitting. Launch mkvmerge and drag and drop the original mkv into it, select the elementary streams then mux with the splitting options.

[djskribbles]

thanks, that would've saved me some time. :o

[architect73]

Hi , i am new to this forum !
Really great software , it worked on my ps3 !! Thanks !
The only question i have is that the vob file ( which is smaller than the mkv file..) it is much darker on the dark scenes..
For example in the mkv sample file of the Shrek the 3rd there is a scene at the bar..Great detail though it is dark..
But in the vob file it is almost black...( played on my pc with mpc and on my ps3 with the same results..)
Someone any ideas ????

[coupe96]

works perfectly on my ps3 with tversity but what about subtitles guys?how can we add or display subtitles to these vobs?or should we add subtitles directly to mkv and if so how?

[TEB]

I just did a 720p conversion and it finished alright... tho i can only hear sound on all the players ive tried..

[nfs_driver]

Hi 3r1c!
Thanks for this nice app you made. Works great with the small mkv , but with the big ones i have problems. I get the following error at H264info right at the end of the proces, and then at the Ffmpeg step it say Bufferunderflow.

It may be because of the lowdisk space on C?


http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6233/err1zw8.th.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=err1zw8.jpg)

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9228/error2wh6.th.jpg (http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=error2wh6.jpg)


Would it be possible to add a option to choose a different temp-folder on a different drive?

[3r1c]

Hi , i am new to this forum !
Really great software , it worked on my ps3 !! Thanks !
The only question i have is that the vob file ( which is smaller than the mkv file..) it is much darker on the dark scenes..
For example in the mkv sample file of the Shrek the 3rd there is a scene at the bar..Great detail though it is dark..
But in the vob file it is almost black...( played on my pc with mpc and on my ps3 with the same results..)
Someone any ideas ????

Im sure this is because whatever filters you have for mkv's are enhancing the video, and the vob playback on the ps3 and on your pc is without any decoding enhancements.
ie you are viewing it exactly as encoded.

mkv2vob does not transcode or alter the video stream in any way, if it looks different its because of your decoder.

[3r1c]

Hi 3r1c!
Thanks for this nice app you made. Works great with the small mkv , but with the big ones i have problems. I get the following error at H264info right at the end of the proces, and then at the Ffmpeg step it say Bufferunderflow.

It may be because of the lowdisk space on C?


http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6233/err1zw8.th.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=err1zw8.jpg)

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9228/error2wh6.th.jpg (http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=error2wh6.jpg)


Would it be possible to add a option to choose a different temp-folder on a different drive?

It says completed before crash so it may still work properly.

Buffer underflow in ffmpeg seems to be meaningless, or its just a notice and not important.
Ive had videos convert with tons of buffer underflows and play back perfectly, yet i have had others with no errors that just wont play.

[glen8]

Yeah, sat down to watch heroes ep10 over the weekend and got a blank screen :-(

I'm not having much luck at present, what with my HD-DVD > Blu-ray performance and issues with my sigma based player :-(

Decided to call it a day and just bought a 10m HDMI/HDMI cable. I have linked my PC directly to the TV now

[KnoKo]

I'm sorry for asking again:

Would it be possible to add a option to choose a different temp-folder on a different drive?

[krisq]

I'm sorry for asking again:

Would it be possible to add a option to choose a different temp-folder on a different drive?

I second that. I'm running out of space very often.

[ExSport]

I second that. I'm running out of space very often.
Easiest way is to change TMP and TEMP variable(in Windows) to another disk path manually.

[krisq]

Easiest way is to change TMP and TEMP variable(in Windows) to another disk path manually.

True. But it's not an elegant solution IMO and I need my 'Temp' folder to be where it is now.

[nathannihilator]

Great job. Works perfect for me so far.

I really need a way to break up the mkv into 45-50 minute chunks, I watch tons of movies this way. So far mkvmerge seems to work. I can't play the 2nd and 3rd pieces on my PC for some reason, but so far when made into a vob they work great - no a/v sync problems even. Anyone know why they won't play on the PC?

Anyway, if mkv2vob could have an option to split the mkv with mkvmerge and then process all the files, that would be slick! That would just be a bonus as I can do it manually pretty easily.

Thanks for great program, this may have just saved my PS3 from being sold and used for HTPC money.

[Jorgensen]

None of the above methods have worked for me, while trying to split the vob files. Not even the first file from TSSplitter (which works for someone), this is also very much out of sync. So I would very much appreciate that mkv2vob spilt the vob file when they reach a certain size.

Someone states that the vob files are smaller than the mkv files. Does anybody else have similar experience because when I do the conversion the vob files are bigger than the mkv files.

Anyway thanks for a great tool!

[busta.rhymes]

When I convert the Vob files are bigger than the MKV files to.
This is pretty annoying because the 8gb files dont fitt on a Dual Layer Disc anymore. Please fix this issue. And yes there should be an option to splitt files but this should only be an option an not a must.

[busta.rhymes]

And .... I dont have a picture when I play the vob files on pc. I have Klite codec pack installed. Do i need anything else?
On Playstation they play.

Who else has issues when fast forwarding on ps3? Then the file starts to stutter and then it runs like twice the speed. Why dosnt that work?

[busta.rhymes]

This is the errors I get:

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/2708/helpjg6.jpg

[3r1c]

the vob will only play on the ps3, thats the whole point of the program.
if you want to view on your pc just play the mkv file.

the "buffer underflow" is not an error, it happens sometimes.
if the screen is black its because the x264 was encoded with options the ps3 does not support, there is no way to fix this.

[nfs_driver]

I had some problems but i manage to solve them. First of all , i was geting an error because of the low sapce on C
Solution: - i change the Temp and TMP location from MyComputer, propreties, Advanced,Environment
From User variables For xxxx u edit the location of Temp and TMP folders. Then restart the comp.
I coud not split the vob files so i search a program to split teh original mkv. I found a nice and easy program to do that mkvtoolnix-unicode-2.1.0
GL everyone and sorry for my bad english


PS: about the buffer underflow u was right is not an error, the vob file is working perfectly

[busta.rhymes]

Ok than most of my questions are anwered.

Vobs to Big?
But why are the Vobs bigger than the mkv. My vob is now 8,6gb and wont fitt on a dl layer disk.
Anyone got a solution? And no I dont want to splitt.

No Fast Forwarding?
How come the playstation fucks up when Fast Forwarding? Then the Speed of the Video ist totally screwed.

Please Help.

[3r1c]

You have 3 choices.
1. Split
2. Stream from pc
3. Burn to BD-R

No idea why its bigger or fast forward doesnt work.

Could be there is just credits at the end or maybe something you can cut out to make it smaller.

[busta.rhymes]

- Isnt there no way you can get the vob to be smaller? I mean Shouldnt it be exactly as big as the source mkv?

- What prog should I use to Stream from PC?

[MeDDers]

LOL!!!

There's some funny posts in this thread, you must be a saint 3r1c :D

Some people are never happy. :cool:


I just wanted to say Thank You!

[busta.rhymes]

I am indeed very happy just frustraded that the file that used to fitt on a dvd now doesnt anymore.
But still happy about 3r1c´s sollution.

[3r1c]

I use tversity (set transcoding to never), possibly it could work with windows media player library if you rename .vob to .mpg

[dj wurst]

@3er1c
thanks for the great gui

does anyone have a solution to solve the "fat32-problem"?
i don't want to split my movies. so i tried to transfer the file via ps3 portal, but it doesn't work. small mp3-files => no problem; big vob-files => the ps3 doesn't know where to save them :-(

[TW4Tv]

Question for 3er1c:
I have used your program and it works 100% for all the mkv`s I have on my system, great tool. I do have 1 question though, as I like to keep the files on my HD to a minumum, what are the ESENTIAL files I need in the /tools folder ?
I notice that bsweet, transcode and a lot of dlls inside the folder that I dont need (I will NEVER be trancoding audio etc.)

Basicly all i need is MKVExtractGui, h264info, ffmpeg and the dlls that these programs use.

Thanks

[B4tm4n]

@3er1c
thanks for great gui

does anyone have a solution to solve the "fat32-problem"?
i don't want to split my movies. so i tried to transfer the file via ps3 portal, but it doesn't work. small mp3-files => no problem; big vob-files => the ps3 doesn't know where to save them :-(

Stream the files, or try naming the vob to mpg and see if the PS3 saves them to the right place.

[dj wurst]

i already tried a renamed vob -> mpg file. it doesn't work

.mpg 423mb (mpeg2) copying with ps3 portal worked
.vob 2262mb (h264) copying with ps3 portal "Insert storage media at the save destination"; copy from external hdd worked
.vob 8366mb (h264) copying with ps3 portal "Insert storage media at the save destination"; external hdd fat32 :-(

streaming doesn't work. because i want to play the movies on the ps3 "standalone"

[3r1c]

There is another way that might be useful.
I have done this successfully but not created any gui for it.
To create a working blu-ray content on a dvd (also works on BD-R).
Fastforwarding and 1080p also works with this method :)

1. Split the h264/ac3 from the mkv.

2. Using h264info set the level to 4.1

3. Using latest Elecard XMuxer mux the h264 output from h264info and the ac3 into a ts (must select the h264 first, then the ac3).

4. Using TSremux load the ts file you just created.
You will get an error when you import the ts, ignore it.
Trim the first 1 second with the trim options in tsremux (trim begining 0:0:1).
Select output format Blu-ray

5. Using nero burn the resulting certificate and bdmv folder to a DVD-R or BD-R, make sure to set No Multisession, and UDF 2.50

Resulting disc is detected as AVCHD or Blu-ray by the ps3 :)

EDIT: on second thought this might not be useful, since most scene releases and encodes will not be blu-ray compliant.

[dj wurst]

thank you for the fast answer.

i already tried the mini blu-ray, but as dvd-rw is only 4,7gb i had to change the dvd several times while watching the movie. :-(

i know, that this error "insert storage..." is normal, if the ps3 can't recordnize the format of the file, but copying the vob-file from an external hdd works. the only reason why i want to copy it via lan is the f*** file size limit of fat32

[3r1c]

you wont be able to do this, the ps3 internal hd is also fat32.
so copying over network wont work if the file is bigger then 4gb, but you can play it over network using tversity.

The only way to play a file bigger then 4gb on the ps3 is to burn it to a disc (bluray/dvd) or stream it.

[dj wurst]

are you sure? i think the filesystem on the ps3 is not fat32. it is a "special" sony-filesystem called Synergistic Processing Unit File System

[3r1c]

you may be right im not sure.
you might have better luck googling that error message because its not really anything to do with my prog and i dont know the answer or even what ps3 portal is.

[dj wurst]

ok. you're right. it's the wrong thread. i just thought someone here maybe already had the same problem and solved it. anyway thanks for your answers.

btw i already tried google and found no solution :-(

[B4tm4n]

Have you tried Vilvic Media Center (http://www.vilvic.com/index.html) You can transfer large files to your PS3 with that . I used to use that to transfer files as large as 20 GB before I started streaming. And talking about streaming, I use twonky and with that if you press triangle on the file from your PS3 you can chose copy and it copy it to the internal HD.

[busta.rhymes]

If a file has 2 Audio Lanes - Englisch -German
How do I tell him to use german?
And how do I tell him not to use subtitles?
The reson why Im asking is because I only have one empty DVD DL Disc left and I dont want to screw up this time.

[busta.rhymes]

@B4tm4n
Please tell me more about the tools to copy large files to PS3.
How to use them and so on.

[ssHiep]

i have succesfully transfered movies from my computer through tversity to my ps3 without any porblems. the ps3 does not use a fat32 set up for the hd. btw 3r1c, killer program, love it

[3r1c]

subtitles and multiple audio streams is not supported at this time, the program will use the first audio stream number.

[busta.rhymes]

Well everything works fine for me now exept for Fastforwarding that will screw up the speed off playback.

[busta.rhymes]

I am using TwonkyMedia just at the moment and i can copy Big files from pc to ps3 to without any problems. Yahoo now the problem with the files over 8,5gb is no problem anymore. I am so happy.

[WestsTigersFan]

do u lose any quality running it through tversity as opposed to running it off a burnt dvd or flash card etc?

[B4tm4n]

I am using TwonkyMedia just at the moment and i can copy Big files from pc to ps3 to without any problems. Yahoo now the problem with the files over 8,5gb is no problem anymore. I am so happy.

Glad you got it working.:D

[BigTony]

Many thanks for this great little application, works on about 90% of the 720p samples I had lying around. One problem I keep finding is an error after tranzcode, it creates .wav's from the DTS/AC3 etc, but I get 'Error creating AC3 from WAV!'.
Any clues as to why this is happening (tranzcode outputs the .wav's no problem).

I'm going to try the 1080p format onto a BR disc, as I'd love to crack the 1080p barrier before the holidays.

[zwirek75]

Just writing for someone to confirm this ..
I've spent some time playing with encoding 1080p h264 files for PS3.
What I have discovered is that the files were playable for level 4.1 only if I have chosen to use at most one reference frame (a setting of x264 application). If I choose more than one ref frame the x264 complains something about DPB size (e.g. x264 [warning]: DPB size (13824000) > level limit (12582912)) for chosen profile but starts encoding a stream which is not playable on ps3.
I think this is the problem of changing from avc 5.1 to avc 4.1 just by hex editing - it does not change the internals of the stream, so the stream becomes incorrect.
For 720p the problem is less important since references to blocks are reachable within 4.1 profile DPB range.
...
Tomek

[3r1c]

its certain combinations of options, i have not been able to figure out which ones exactly.

more refs will be playable if you lower some other options.

[jrizzy]

first off lemme say that this is a fantastic program and so far has worked flawlessly on my 720p videos.

i am wireless using my ps3 so streaming a lil bit of a stretch....i can at least see that the video does playback so i know it works. problem for me is for example: superbad 720p ripped as .vob is larger than the actual mkv file so it wont fit onto a standard dvd anymore and i cant put it on my fat32 external hd b/c its over 4gb...so i have 3 questions:

1.) what do u recommend as far as a vob splitter goes?

2.) is there a way to shrink the .vob file down just a touch to get it onto a standard DVD

2.) will the ps3 accept other hard drive formats? like ext2 or ext3?

thanks for all ur hard work!

[3r1c]

If your network isnt fast enough for live streaming just use the copy function to save it to the ps3 hard drive, then watch it from there.

[zwirek75]

its certain combinations of options, i have not been able to figure out which ones exactly.

more refs will be playable if you lower some other options.

Sure. But if you have a stream HL and 5.1 and "degrade" it to HL 4.1 it will not be playable by PS3.
Is there (known) any way to detect such situations before starting the conversion process to detect streams which are not "convertible" by mkv2vob ?


Tomek

[Jonny F]

Hi,

Ive used your program to convert a couple of mkvs successfully, so thanks for that!

I understand the issue with not being able to fast forward (do you think this will ever be fixed, or is it a Sony problem)

My question is, even just stopping the playback, going back to the xmb, then resuming playback causes the fast video / sync issue here.

Is this normal? Because it makes watching a movie really hard work, if I accidentally exit the film I'm stuffed!

Cheers,

Jon.

[3r1c]

you must watch video from start to finish no interruptions or it will not work properly, and yes this is a sony problem there is nothing I can do.

[pepperisback]

I have some mkv movies in 1080P. Which Program did I have to use to convert it to 720P ???
Thanks!

[georgem67]

Pause works great but is it really the PS3 stopping the ff/rewind or something in the making of the vob?? ...if you give the ps3 a vob created by other programs, they ff/rewind and resume perfectly, so the problem must be in the actual conversion from mkv2vob..

[3r1c]

thats because vobs created by other programs are dvd mpeg2 not h264.

the reason is because h264 in vob is non-standard, its amazing it plays at all. but currently its the only way to get h264 and ac3 to work on ps3 so theres no other choice then to just live without ff/rw.

[georgem67]

It's a brilliant program anyway...I generally only need to pause to run for a beer...so a big thank you for all your work!!!

[fonkee1]

After updating to Sony PS3 firmware 2.10 to unlock DIVX, it seems it may have horked the VOB format playback. It seems more likely in files over 4GB that I was able to copy to the internal PS3 hard drive have trouble playing back. It will playback the preview fine, but I have to force it like 3-4 times before the movie will playback. Before 2.10, they all fired up fine. Anyone else have issues and or ideas as to why this is happening? Thanks

[3r1c]

I dont have any 4gb+ files to test, however sony does say in the notes that files bigger then 4gb wont work with the new update. Im not sure if this means just on the internal hdd or other sources.

[3r1c]

if anyone has files which do not play please post the headers here so i can try to detect non playable files in next version.

so far it seems its due to the reference frames.
upto 5 refs plays, 7 or more doesnt play.
i havent seen any files with 6 refs yet so i dont know.

if anyone knows how to calculate the minimum AVC level from these numbers please PM me

my findings so far
WORKING
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cabac=1 ref=3 deblock=1:0:0 analyse=0x3:0x133 me=umh subme=6 brdo=1 mixed_ref=1 me_range=16 chroma_me=1 trellis=0 8x8dct=1 cqm=0 deadzone=21,11 chroma_qp_offset=0 slices=1 nr=0 decimate=1 mbaff=0 bframes=3 b_pyramid=1 b_adapt=1 b_bias=0 direct=1 wpredb=1 bime=1 keyint=250 keyint_min=25 scenecut=40 rc=2pass bitrate=4984 ratetol=1.0 rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' qcomp=0.60 qpmin=10 qpmax=51 qpstep=4 cplxblur=20.0 qblur=0.5 ip_ratio=1.40 pb_ratio=1.30
cabac=1 ref=3 deblock=1:0:1 analyse=0x3:0x133 me=umh subme=6 brdo=1 mixed_ref=1 me_range=16 chroma_me=1 trellis=0 8x8dct=1 cqm=0 deadzone=21,11 chroma_qp_offset=0 slices=1 nr=0 decimate=1 mbaff=0 bframes=3 b_pyramid=1 b_adapt=1 b_bias=0 direct=1 wpredb=1 bime=1 keyint=250 keyint_min=25 scenecut=40 rc=2pass bitrate=4668 ratetol=1.0 rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' qcomp=0.60 qpmin=10 qpmax=51 qpstep=4 cplxblur=20.0 qblur=0.5 ip_ratio=1.40 pb_ratio=1.30
cabac=1 ref=1 deblock=1:0:0 analyse=0x1:0x111 me=hex subme=5 brdo=0 mixed_ref=0 me_range=12 chroma_me=1 trellis=0 8x8dct=0 cqm=0 deadzone=21,11 chroma_qp_offset=0 threads=3 nr=0 decimate=0 mbaff=0 bframes=3 b_pyramid=1 b_adapt=1 b_bias=0 direct=3 wpredb=0 bime=1 keyint=250 keyint_min=25 scenecut=40(pre) rc=2pass bitrate=3393 ratetol=1.0 rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' qcomp=0.60 qpmin=10 qpmax=51 qpstep=4 cplxblur=20.0 qblur=0.5 ip_ratio=1.40 pb_ratio=1.30
cabac=1 ref=4 deblock=1:-2:-1 analyse=0x3:0x133 me=hex subme=6 brdo=1 mixed_ref=0 me_range=16 chroma_me=1 trellis=1 8x8dct=1 cqm=0 deadzone=21,11 chroma_qp_offset=0 threads=6 nr=0 decimate=1 mbaff=0 bframes=3 b_pyramid=1 b_adapt=1 b_bias=0 direct=3 wpredb=1 bime=1 keyint=250 keyint_min=25 scenecut=40(pre) rc=2pass bitrate=3170 ratetol=1.0 rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' qcomp=0.60 qpmin=10 qpmax=51 qpstep=4 cplxblur=20.0 qblur=0.5 ip_ratio=1.40 pb_ratio=1.30
cabac=1 ref=3 deblock=1:1:1 analyse=0x1:0 me=hex subme=5 brdo=0 mixed_ref=1 me_range=6 chroma_me=1 trellis=1 8x8dct=0 cqm=0 deadzone=21,11 chroma_qp_offset=0 threads=6 nr=0 decimate=1 mbaff=0 bframes=3 b_pyramid=1 b_adapt=1 b_bias=0 direct=3 wpredb=1 bime=0 keyint=250 keyint_min=25 scenecut=40(pre) rc=2pass bitrate=2560 ratetol=1.0 rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' qcomp=0.60 qpmin=10 qpmax=51 qpstep=4 cplxblur=20.0 qblur=0.5 ip_ratio=1.40 pb_ratio=1.30
cabac=1 ref=1 deblock=1:0:0 analyse=0x1:0x111 me=hex subme=5 brdo=0 mixed_ref=0 me_range=16 chroma_me=1 trellis=0 8x8dct=0 cqm=0 deadzone=21,11 chroma_qp_offset=0 threads=6 nr=0 decimate=1 mbaff=0 bframes=3 b_pyramid=1 b_adapt=1 b_bias=0 direct=2 wpredb=0 bime=0 keyint=290 keyint_min=23 scenecut=40(pre) rc=2pass bitrate=3398 ratetol=1.0 rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' qcomp=0.60 qpmin=10 qpmax=51 qpstep=4 cplxblur=20.0 qblur=0.5 ip_ratio=1.40 pb_ratio=1.30
cabac=1 ref=3 deblock=1:0:0 analyse=0x3:0x133 me=hex subme=6 brdo=0 mixed_ref=1 me_range=16 chroma_me=1 trellis=1 8x8dct=1 cqm=0 deadzone=21,11 chroma_qp_offset=0 threads=6 nr=0 decimate=1 mbaff=0 bframes=3 b_pyramid=1 b_adapt=1 b_bias=0 direct=1 wpredb=1 bime=1 keyint=240 keyint_min=24 scenecut=40(pre) rc=2pass bitrate=2603 ratetol=1.0 rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' qcomp=0.60 qpmin=10 qpmax=51 qpstep=4 cplxblur=20.0 qblur=0.5 ip_ratio=1.40 pb_ratio=1.30
cabac=1 ref=5 deblock=1:0:0 analyse=0x3:0x133 me=umh subme=7 brdo=0 mixed_ref=0 me_range=16 chroma_me=1 trellis=1 8x8dct=1 cqm=0 deadzone=21,11 chroma_qp_offset=0 threads=6 nr=0 decimate=1 mbaff=0 bframes=3 b_pyramid=1 b_adapt=1 b_bias=0 direct=1 wpredb=1 bime=1 keyint=240 keyint_min=24 scenecut=40(pre) rc=2pass bitrate=2578 ratetol=1.0 rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' qcomp=0.60 qpmin=10 qpmax=51 qpstep=4 cplxblur=20.0 qblur=0.5 ip_ratio=1.40 pb_ratio=1.30
cabac=1 ref=1 deblock=1:0:0 analyse=0x1:0x111 me=hex subme=5 brdo=0 mixed_ref=0 me_range=16 chroma_me=1 trellis=0 8x8dct=0 cqm=0 deadzone=21,11 chroma_qp_offset=0 threads=3 nr=0 decimate=1 mbaff=0 bframes=3 b_pyramid=1 b_adapt=1 b_bias=0 direct=2 wpredb=0 bime=0 keyint=290 keyint_min=23 scenecut=40(pre) rc=2pass bitrate=3370 ratetol=1.0 rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' qcomp=0.60 qpmin=10 qpmax=51 qpstep=4 cplxblur=20.0 qblur=0.5 ip_ratio=1.40 pb_ratio=1.30

NOT WORKING
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cabac=1 ref=8 deblock=1:0:0 analyse=0x3:0x133 me=hex subme=6 brdo=1 mixed_ref=1 me_range=16 chroma_me=1 trellis=1 8x8dct=1 cqm=0 deadzone=21,11 chroma_qp_offset=0 slices=2 nr=0 decimate=1 mbaff=0 bframes=3 b_pyramid=1 b_adapt=1 b_bias=0 direct=1 wpredb=1 bime=1 keyint=250 keyint_min=25 scenecut=40 rc=2pass bitrate=4948 ratetol=1.0 rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' qcomp=0.60 qpmin=10 qpmax=51 qpstep=4 cplxblur=20.0 qblur=0.5 ip_ratio=1.40 pb_ratio=1.30
cabac=1 ref=16 deblock=1:0:0 analyse=0x3:0x133 me=hex subme=6 brdo=1 mixed_ref=1 me_range=16 chroma_me=1 trellis=1 8x8dct=1 cqm=0 deadzone=21,11 chroma_qp_offset=0 slices=2 nr=300 decimate=1 mbaff=0 bframes=3 b_pyramid=1 b_adapt=1 b_bias=0 direct=1 wpredb=1 bime=1 keyint=250 keyint_min=25 scenecut=40 rc=2pass bitrate=5175 ratetol=1.5 rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' qcomp=0.60 qpmin=10 qpmax=51 qpstep=4 cplxblur=20.0 qblur=0.5 ip_ratio=1.40 pb_ratio=1.30
cabac=1 ref=10 deblock=1:-3:-2 analyse=0x3:0x133 me=umh subme=7 brdo=1 mixed_ref=1 me_range=16 chroma_me=1 trellis=0 8x8dct=1 cqm=2 deadzone=22,11 chroma_qp_offset=0 threads=2 nr=0 decimate=1 mbaff=0 bframes=3 b_pyramid=1 b_adapt=1 b_bias=0 direct=3 wpredb=1 bime=1 keyint=250 keyint_min=25 scenecut=40(pre) rc=2pass bitrate=5123 ratetol=1.0 rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' qcomp=0.60 qpmin=10 qpmax=51 qpstep=4 cplxblur=20.0 qblur=0.5 ip_ratio=1.40 pb_ratio=1.30
cabac=1 ref=7 deblock=1:-2:-1 analyse=0x3:0x133 me=umh subme=6 brdo=1 mixed_ref=1 me_range=16 chroma_me=1 trellis=1 8x8dct=1 cqm=0 deadzone=21,11 chroma_qp_offset=0 threads=6 nr=0 decimate=1 mbaff=0 bframes=3 b_pyramid=1 b_adapt=1 b_bias=0 direct=3 wpredb=1 bime=1 keyint=250 keyint_min=25 scenecut=40(pre) rc=2pass bitrate=3388 ratetol=1.0 rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' qcomp=0.60 qpmin=10 qpmax=51 qpstep=4 cplxblur=20.0 qblur=0.5 ip_ratio=1.40 pb_ratio=1.30

[zwirek75]

if anyone has files which do not play please post the headers here so i can try to detect non playable files in next version.


Well.. I had a look at x264 source files - please have a look at procedure x264_validate_levels in the source file encoder/set.c

For level 41 it goes like this:
{ 41, 245760, 8192, 12582912, 50000, 62500, 512, 16, 24, 1, 1, 0 },
which means:
41 - level 4.1

245760 - max macroblock processing rate (macroblocks/sec)
8192 - max frame size (macroblocks)
12582912 - max decoded picture buffer (bytes)
50000 - max bitrate (kbit/sec)
62500 - max vbv buffer (kbit)
512 - max vertical mv component range (pixels)
etc.

The question is what is macroblock (IMO elementary element of the frame of one of predefined classes of size 16x16 pixels) etc :)
Note that number of reference frames for given level depends on max decoded picture buffer (based on quick calculations - 9 for 720p, 4 for 1080p - which is not excactly the same as empirical values ... 1080p works for at most 2 ref frames)
I dont know how to extract the information about resolution (either in pixels or in macroblocks) and number of reference frames used for stream encoding.
If such parameters exist maybe it would be possible to trick PS3 to play AVC 5.1 as well :) - since the possibility is there due to Blu-ray playback.

For level 51 it goes like this - (so just much higher numbers)
{ 51, 983040, 36864, 70778880, 240000, 240000, 512, 16, 24, 1, 1, 1 },

Hope it helps

Tomasz

[3r1c]

yeah those numbers come from the same specs that are on wikipedia which i already read, the problem is i dont know how to convert the data in the x264 header into number of macroblocks,buffer etc...

[zwirek75]

yeah those numbers come from the same specs that are on wikipedia which i already read, the problem is i dont know how to convert the data in the x264 header into number of macroblocks,buffer etc...

From x264:
number of macroblocks per frame mbs = h->sps->i_mb_width * h->sps->i_mb_height;

i_mb_width = ( param->width+ 15 ) / 16;
i_mb_height= ( param->height+ 15 ) / 16;

buffer size bytes = mbs * 384 * num_ref_frames
Regards
Tomasz

[fonkee1]

WOOT!! I figured it out. In order to get VOBs greater than 4GB to play on the PS3 with the new 2.10 fw update, you just select the movie in XMB, press Triangle and select PLAY FROM THE BEGINNING. Just hitting the X button or SELECT button will not work. Now enjoy those VOBs and DIVX files!:D

[3r1c]

From x264:
number of macroblocks per frame mbs = h->sps->i_mb_width * h->sps->i_mb_height;

i_mb_width = ( param->width+ 15 ) / 16;
i_mb_height= ( param->height+ 15 ) / 16;

buffer size bytes = mbs * 384 * num_ref_frames
Regards
Tomasz

excellent thanks.
it wasnt quite a simple as the above code but looking through the source code i figured it out.

i know now exactly why the files in my last post wont play, next version will have detection of unplayable files :)

[3r1c]

New version released.

V1.3 19/Dec/2007
Added detection of files that would be unplayable on ps3 (black screen) these files will now be transcoded to mpeg2.
Added 1080p support.

[derron]

Excellent work 3r1c!

Just tested it with a sample that didn't work previously.

Now it's converted to mpeg2 and plays just fine on the ps3.

The output file size is twice as large as the mkv but I suppose it's normal, h.264 must be a better codec!

I didn't update the Ps3's firmware yet, I'll wait a few days until I'm sure .vob are still playing with 2.10.

Thanks a lot again!

[macman241]

I've downloaded the latest 1.03 release and found the following:

1. I split 4G+ MKV files using MKVMergeGUI to 2.5G chunks

2. I then run mkv2vob separately so that I end up with VOBs smaller than 4G to put on a FAT32 USB drive to play on the PS3

Latest mkv2vob would always transcode the second MKV part of the file to MPEG-2, but not the first one

So, an Enemy of the State 720p.001.mkv and 002.mkv

mkv2vob would only remux 001.mkv very quickly, but would always transcode 002.mkv

Any ideas?

Update 1: Have just ran mkv2vob 1.02 on the same files and performs as expected without transcoding. I presume something has changed in 1.03 when it tries to determine whether the file is playable on the PS3 and for some reason decides it's not and transcodes.

[3r1c]

i think this is because when you split it you removed the x264 header.

new version searches for the x264 header and processes it, if the values are too high or header not found it assumes the file will not be playable.

i didnt think of split files, i guess you can still use 1.2.
I have absolutely no way to check playability if the header is removed.

[macman241]

I'd expect MKVMerge to keep/create valid headers when splitting. Is there I can check whether there is a valid header for both parts? I can send you the info back if it would be helpful.

[3r1c]

if you hex edit the h264 file you will see the header which looks like this in the first 1024 bytes.

cabac=1 ref=3 deblock=1:0:0 analyse=0x3:0x133 me=umh subme=6 brdo=1 mixed_ref=1 me_range=16 chroma_me=1 trellis=0 8x8dct=1 cqm=0 deadzone=21,11 chroma_qp_offset=0 slices=1 nr=0 decimate=1 mbaff=0 bframes=3 b_pyramid=1 b_adapt=1 b_bias=0 direct=1 wpredb=1 bime=1 keyint=250 keyint_min=25 scenecut=40 rc=2pass bitrate=4984 ratetol=1.0 rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' qcomp=0.60 qpmin=10 qpmax=51 qpstep=4 cplxblur=20.0 qblur=0.5 ip_ratio=1.40 pb_ratio=1.30


when you split, only the first file has this header, its not copied to the others by mkvmerge.

i will release next version shortly, it will ask you if you want mpeg2 or not, will upload as soon as i fix another issue with DTS.

[SKAPiter]

Are there any troubles playing back vobs with the new firmware 2.10? I just starting to enjoy my PS3, thanks to 3r1c's mkv2vob with firmware 2.01. Would hate to loose this feature with new firmware.

BTW, I was too, using mkvmerge to split files for FAT32 USB disk, so new version which will treat splitted files correctly will be highly appreciated.

Another request, if I may. :-) I have mkvs with multiple audio tracks (languages) Is it possible to include a feature where I can select which audio track to mux into vob? That would make my day (year)! :-)

[3r1c]

2.10 firmware does play it just as good but with some small changes.

There is a change in firmware 2.10 which effects resuming/pausing/fastforward (it never worked before) but now instead of being out of sync it just freezes.

All you have to do is instead of selecting the movie as usual, highlight it, press triangle, select Play from the beginning.

[zwirek75]

if you hex edit the h264 file you will see the header which looks like this in the first 1024 bytes.





And what if the stream was not encoded with x264 ?
What if it has been already processed by h264info in term of changing the internals ?
;)
I am currently working on a replacement for h264info based on full h264 stream parsing ... hope I'd have time to make an usable version.

Tomasz

[3r1c]

And what if the stream was not encoded with x264 ?
What if it has been already processed by h264info in term of changing the internals ?
;)
I am currently working on a replacement for h264info based on full h264 stream parsing ... hope I'd have time to make an usable version.

Tomasz

well h264info will keep this header.

if you could make a program to figure out these values by process the stream that would be excellent, but something like that is beyond me at the moment. im sure it certainly would be useful to figure out what settings hd-dvd/blu-ray are encoded with too.

[zwirek75]

New version released.

V1.3 19/Dec/2007
Added detection of files that would be unplayable on ps3 (black screen) these files will now be transcoded to mpeg2.
Added 1080p support.
I havent tested your version but I did some research and 1080p files work on ps3 if:
- number of reference is 4 AND number of bframes is 0
OR
- number or reference frames is lower or equal to 3

Maybe this would help
Regards
Tomasz

[3r1c]

I havent tested your version but I did some research and 1080p files work on ps3 if:
- number of reference is 4 AND number of bframes is 0
OR
- number or reference frames is lower or equal to 3

Maybe this would help
Regards
Tomasz

thanks i already figured that our out, its related to the number of refrence and bframes. too many reference frames puts it over the 4.1 level limit and the ps3 only plays upto level 4.1 even with level spoofing.

[XolocoTuxmaster]

This program detects the h264 level and "supposedly" change it,

http://ambamo.free.fr/temp/mp4/H264_Level.exe

The creator hasn't work a lot on it so changing fails a lot, but I think detection is ok

I hope it helps

[survivant001]

One request. if the stream is not valide instead of transcoding it to mpeg2, I would prefer reencode it with x264 in 4.1 profile. I have a command line for PS3 (with the build 669i pulldown).

[survivant001]

I get a black screen even if I say YES to mpeg2 transcoding



if I understand what your program do is this :

#1 - extract the mkv
#2 - h264info top patch to 4.1
#3 - ffmpeg : somethign like that :
ffmpeg -r 23.976 -f h264 -i input.h264 -f ac3 -i input.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob output.vob

right ?

[georgem67]

past version converted DTS 1500 bitrate to AC3 332 bitrate..so I used Tranzcode, then softencode to make AC3 640 bitrate. Does the latest version produce a larger DTS bitrate? Thanks again.

[3r1c]

One request. if the stream is not valide instead of transcoding it to mpeg2, I would prefer reencode it with x264 in 4.1 profile. I have a command line for PS3 (with the build 669i pulldown).

this will take a very long time on most pcs. i made it use mpeg2 because its fast and filesize doenst really matter when streaming.

i will check out the problem with that mkv

[Quatre]

I've downloaded the latest 1.03 release and found the following:

1. I split 4G+ MKV files using MKVMergeGUI to 2.5G chunks

2. I then run mkv2vob separately so that I end up with VOBs smaller than 4G to put on a FAT32 USB drive to play on the PS3

Latest mkv2vob would always transcode the second MKV part of the file to MPEG-2, but not the first one

So, an Enemy of the State 720p.001.mkv and 002.mkv

mkv2vob would only remux 001.mkv very quickly, but would always transcode 002.mkv

Any ideas?

Update 1: Have just ran mkv2vob 1.02 on the same files and performs as expected without transcoding. I presume something has changed in 1.03 when it tries to determine whether the file is playable on the PS3 and for some reason decides it's not and transcodes.


I am also trying to convert mkv into vob for play on ps3 through a fat32 hdd. Is it really better to split the .mkv rathe then the .vob? I had trouble finding a prog that could split a .vob. I used HDBDSplitGUI and it did split the .vob into 2 parts smaller then 4gb but the second part would not play on ps3 (or on the pc i dont think either). So i'm trying mkvmergegui to split the mkv first and then run mkv2vob on both parts.

I think mkv2vob 1.3 fixes the previous problem with a split .mkv as long as you hit no to transcoding to mpeg2 or whatever.

having to split the mkv and then run mkv2vob on both is a bit of work but it still is much quicker then encoding an mkv into wmv.

[survivant001]

There is a way to convert a 29.97fps to 23.976 fps without the sound been too slow ? I try to convert a movie to 23.976, the video is OK, but the sound is like a robot speaking :(

[3r1c]

survivant001, i have tested the file you mentioned and there is no problem playing it.

it is playable so no matter if you click yes/no it is remuxed to vob h264/ac3 and plays perfectly on the ps3.
If you have firmware 2.10 highlight the file, click trianagle, click start from beginning.

[survivant001]

@3r1c

thanks I'll try.. that wierd..even in Windows I had a black screen.

I'll try it again

Done.. it works now..

[survivant001]

@3r1c

is it possible to have a command line interface ?

mkv2vob -i input.mkv -o output.vob (or .m2t)

the human intervention is really limited.. so it can be done par command line, and it will be easier to use in a script..

[SKAPiter]

3r1c, have you tried muxing into AVI container, now that 2.10 supports avi divx files? who knows, maybe it will work now?

[Numer0bis]

thank you so much. This tool is a real life saver. Now with 2.1 firmware and this tool the playstation can almost play anything *thumbs up*

[georgem67]

Does the new version always use 100% CPU on 1080p files...& do you have to encode to mpeg2 with 1080p?
Thanks

[Quatre]

saw another program called mkv2avc
http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=87199.

does the same thing as this program, but it seems it was never updated and it might be older now and can't do 1080p.

seems you can rename the .vob to .m2ts (avchd) or .mpg correct?

but that wont allow the file to be ffwd or rwnd though right?

so that is pretty much the only limitation right now with mkv2vob and .vob .m2ts .mpg files remuxed from mkv using this prog.

Also, I am still wondering what the best way to split a file into parts 4gb or smaller for use with a fat32 ext hdd on ps3. Seems the couple other ppl here that were using a fat32 , just split the mkv file first using mkvMergegui and then make a .vob of both.

is that still the best way? isn't there anyway to split the .vob, .m2ts or .mpg? once already remuxed from mkv.

the program is great, great updates , especially the latest update which allows you to say no to transcoding if you have split the mkv. This is relatively fast even if you have to split and seems to be right now the best way to watch mkv on a console (ps3 or 360) as encoding mkv to wmv takes a very long time.

once again all that needs to be done is fix the ffwd, rwnd problem though that is probably on sony's end and then of course find a way around the fat32 hdd 4gb limit (also sonys fault). shame hfs+ doesn't work as it does on 360.

[pepperisback]

Hello,
at first Thank you very much for the new update of this program. But I have a problem. I have a mkv file which is 8GB big. I splitted the file with MKVmerge to 2 x 4GB Files.
After that I used MKV2vob. The mkv file needs to be transcoded to mpeg2. But when mkv2vob finished the file which was before 4GB big is now 6,68gb big. Is that OK so?

[3r1c]

The way this program was intended to be used was to convert to a file on your computer hdd (windows NTFS) and then streamed to the ps3 via local network, this way filesize does not matter, an 8gb file will play fine.

[AcuraKidd]

I would be forever grateful to you 3r1c if you could add AAC support to your program.

I have a few MKV files that are in 720p, here are their specs:

Resolution: 1280 x 720
Framerate: 23.976
Video Codec: x264 r667 3918kbps
Audio Codec: AAC 5.1 VBR 320 kbps
Aspect Ratio: 1.778:1

Whenever I try to use your program to convert this MKV file I get an error saying "Unsupported Audio Codec: A_AAC"

All the MKV files I have tried are giving me this error. I actually thought that by updating my PS3 with the 2.10 firmware it would now be alot easier to play MKV or AVI or other files, but I guess I was wrong... :(

Oh, and for everyone that would like to split their files into smaller pieces, I have the perfect solution for you, its called "The File Splitter", download it here: http://www.dekabyte.com/filesplitter/TheFileSplitter131.exe

What this program does is let you take ANY file and split it by any size you want, and then at the end it make a small "merge" file, so when you split your files and transfer them to your external hard drive, just put the small "merge" file in the same directory and run the "merge" file. It will put all the files back into one piece without messing up anything.

[~bT~]

^ pls look @ your thread again. i have edited my reply.

[alamski]

I too would be ever greatful if you can add an option to select what audio bitrate you want (when the mkv file has dts sound and has to convert it to ac3) i.e. 640kbs etc. Other than that the program is ace and keep up the good work, your making a lot of us happy here :D.
:thanks::thanks:
Alam

[3r1c]

if your audio is AAC you can just convert to mp4 which would probably be better since you can ff/rw.

[AcuraKidd]

if your audio is AAC you can just convert to mp4 which would probably be better since you can ff/rw.

how would I go about doing that?

does that mean I gotta re-encode the whole thing or do you just mean that I could put it in a MP4 container and it'll play fine on the PS3?

Also, what program would you recommend to switch the container?

[3r1c]

mkvsplit and mp4box
no transcoding, just change container

[Quatre]

I would be forever grateful to you 3r1c if you could add AAC support to your program.

I have a few MKV files that are in 720p, here are their specs:

Resolution: 1280 x 720
Framerate: 23.976
Video Codec: x264 r667 3918kbps
Audio Codec: AAC 5.1 VBR 320 kbps
Aspect Ratio: 1.778:1

Whenever I try to use your program to convert this MKV file I get an error saying "Unsupported Audio Codec: A_AAC"

All the MKV files I have tried are giving me this error. I actually thought that by updating my PS3 with the 2.10 firmware it would now be alot easier to play MKV or AVI or other files, but I guess I was wrong... :(

Oh, and for everyone that would like to split their files into smaller pieces, I have the perfect solution for you, its called "The File Splitter", download it here: http://www.dekabyte.com/filesplitter/TheFileSplitter131.exe

What this program does is let you take ANY file and split it by any size you want, and then at the end it make a small "merge" file, so when you split your files and transfer them to your external hard drive, just put the small "merge" file in the same directory and run the "merge" file. It will put all the files back into one piece without messing up anything.

mkv2vob was working for me until now every x264 .mkv file I try of a certain tv show even different releases I get:

"Unsupported Video Codec: V_MS/VFW/FOURCC"

I am going to try rebooting my pc but I'm afraid this may be some type of x264 .mkv file that mkv2vob doesn't work on in which case we are screwed.

also regarding the "File splitter" program you mention and link, thats nice that it can put the file back together but the whole point of splitting a file up i so it will fit on a fat32 ext. hdd which has the 4gb file limit and fat32 is the only file system ps3 will read right now. and your sure this program can split .vob/.m2ts/.mpg files? because it seems everyone is splitting the .mkv first and then using mkv2vob on each new .mkv you make (depending on how many parts you split it into) usually 2 is enough to keep each under 4gb.


unless you copy the files to the ps3 hdd and then use the merge file to join them on there, that would be pretty nifty but I kind of have other stuff on the ps3 internal and its fine playing off ext. hdd but for one or 2 videos at a time if it really works on the ps3 internal hdd that might be nice to join your split files back into one.

I know you can use red kawa file server or something to transfer files from pc to the ps3 internal hdd but i can't be bothered with that and the red kawa prog i tried wasnt that great (ps3 video 9 which i think has the file server) and I dont like streaming especially having to leave the pc on.

I guess I will report back on the specs of these x264 .mkv's that mkv2vob doesn't seem to work on if they still dont after rebooting and even reinstalling mkv2vob.

[Quatre]

if your audio is AAC you can just convert to mp4 which would probably be better since you can ff/rw.

360 plays mp4 as well but only with 2ch. audio so ps3 would be the way to go with mp4.

how do we see if our .mkv has AAC audio and which of those 2 progs is better for remuxing/changing the .mkv container to .mp4

the ability to ff/rw is definately a plus of doing mkv 2 mp4 over mkv2vob. I thought maybe renaming the .vob to .m2ts (avchd) it would then allow ff/rw as .m2ts (avchd) is fully supported by ps3 (for avchd camcorders etc.)

so if the .nfo of your video file say "Audio: English DTS 5.1 - 1536 KB/s"
or anything that says "DTS" means its AAC and can be converted to .mp4? can't any .mkv be converted to .mp4 then? why not do all to .mp4 then if it is able to ff/rw? Does it take longer or something is that why its not as preferable to convert .mkv to .mp4? so its only worth it if the .mkv has DTS/AAC sound and you want to retain that? or will converting mkv to .mp4 only work on mkv with dts/aac sound?

I'm assuming mkv to mp4 will work on any but it just takes longer then mkv2vob so its only worth doing if the mkv has dts/aac sound and you want to retain that. having ff/rw is pretty huge so I may be leaning towards mp4. any negative to doing mkv to mp4 over mkv2vob?

will that file splitter prog someone mentioned work on the finished mp4 file including the merge file that will allow you to remerge the split files back into one once copied to the ps3 internal hdd from a fat32 ext. hdd?

[Quatre]

mkvsplit and mp4box
no transcoding, just change container

can't find mkvsplit anywhere. just a bunch of progs that convert mkv to xvid/divx .avi

how long would that take? if its anywhere near encoding an mkv into .wmv then forget it but otherwise it could be a viable solution as both 360 and ps3 play divx but 360 plays more xvid and I prefer it for video playback for several reasons including not having a 4gb file limit when using an hfs+ formated ext. hdd with it.

oh duh i see i guess mkvsplit is part of mkvtoolnix that mkvmergeGUI has i guess?

as for mp4box

" This program causes the audio to be out of sync when you merge mp4 files together. Tried it several times with the same issue.

"The problem is the result of cutting MP4 is not correct. Play the cutted MP4 in Quicktime and it continues playing even after last frame."


that doesn't sound too good considering I will need to split the mp4 file for use with fat32 hdd and possibly like to remerge them once copied to the ps3 internal hdd.

[Quatre]

this sucks, i rebooted and even reinstalled mkv2vob 1.3 and none of these x264 .mkv files are working with mkv2vob. same error msg as posted above "Unsupported Video Codec: V_MS/VFW/FOURCC"

going to try to convert them into mp4 but not sure what prog to use. i'm assuming mkvsplit is the mkvtoolnix thing but id ont have it in mkvmergeGuI so i guess i'll try the yamb gui version of mp4box

nope mp4box doesn't even see the .mkv files for some reason and i dont see it as a supported file type for mp4box so I dont think that prog is going to work to convert .mkv to mp4

tried renaming the .mkv to .mpg and mp4box just gets an error saying AVC Video Stream within AVI detected

seems mp4box works on .vob files so maybe after using mkv2vob you could use mp4 box to make an mp4 out of it that will then have ff/rw? but thats dependent on mkv2vob working on your mkv file.

seems i have found some x264 mkv files that mkv2vob nor mp4box work on.

[Quatre]

trying a prog called RipBot264. no confidence its going to work though and will prob take a long time and looks like only ch. audio. i thought ps3 could do mp4 with 5.1 sound now?
ripbot264 takes forever, i thin is a full re encode not unlike encoding mkv to wmv which takes ages.

GotSent seems to do the same thing as mkv2vob if you choose the mux to vob option. it remuxes the mkv to .vob and retains the 5.1 audio. You also have the choice to make an mp4 with the benefit of being able to play on 360 or ps3 and and have use of ff/rw. only catch is i believe the mp4 will always be only 2ch. stereo audio.

not sure which is worse but for now i'm leaning towards .vob on ps3 with full sound but loss of ff/rw. ie. i'm choosing audio over ff/rw controls and ability to play on 360 but for some content like tv eps where maybe 5.1 audio is less important i may go with mp4.

either way GotSent does both and seems to be working even to mux to .vob on these files that mkv2vob wasn't working for. no offense to the author of this great program and i sent him the info of one of the mkv files that wouldn't work with mkv2vob so i'm sure he'll fix it soon with new version especially since GotSent is able to.

[Quatre]

jsut going to use GotSent which does the same thing as mkv2vob as far as remuxing a mkv into vob for ps3 with full 5.1 sound but no ff/rw.

it also has the option to conver to mp4 which works on both 360 and and ps3 and has ff/rw but apparently on 2ch audio on both.

[Quatre]

btw the ones that wouldn't work with mkv2vob but will in GotSent (muxing to vob option and about to try the mp4 option) are:

Video...........: x264
Video Bitrate...: 2 Pass VBR
Audio...........: AC3 5.1 @ 48000 Hz
Audio Bitrate...: 384 kbps
Resolution......: 1280x720
Aspect Ratio....: 16:9
Frame Rate......: 23.97


i sent 3rlc the detailed info but there is the basics, maybe its the 2 pass vbr video that causes mkv2vob not to work?

[Glorioso]

Can i use this to add subtitles to the file, hardcoded?

[Quatre]

I would be forever grateful to you 3r1c if you could add AAC support to your program.

I have a few MKV files that are in 720p, here are their specs:

Resolution: 1280 x 720
Framerate: 23.976
Video Codec: x264 r667 3918kbps
Audio Codec: AAC 5.1 VBR 320 kbps
Aspect Ratio: 1.778:1

Whenever I try to use your program to convert this MKV file I get an error saying "Unsupported Audio Codec: A_AAC"

All the MKV files I have tried are giving me this error. I actually thought that by updating my PS3 with the 2.10 firmware it would now be alot easier to play MKV or AVI or other files, but I guess I was wrong... :(

Oh, and for everyone that would like to split their files into smaller pieces, I have the perfect solution for you, its called "The File Splitter", download it here: http://www.dekabyte.com/filesplitter/TheFileSplitter131.exe

What this program does is let you take ANY file and split it by any size you want, and then at the end it make a small "merge" file, so when you split your files and transfer them to your external hard drive, just put the small "merge" file in the same directory and run the "merge" file. It will put all the files back into one piece without messing up anything.

looks like i got a similiar error when trying to use mkv2vob on certain mkv files. i guess it has something to do with the audio being AAC based on 3rlc's response, but I dont understand why he suggests just converting to mkv to mp4 then in the case of aac audio.

I thought the whole reason ppl were doing mkv 2 vob instead of mp4 was for 5.1 sound and that mp4 will be 2ch. audio on ps3 and 360 both. if the mkv has aac audio will it no somehow do 5.1 sund when converted to mp4 plus have the benefit of ff/rw that the vob doesnt' plus play on both 360 and ps3 where as .vob/.m2ts is only on ps3?

as i've mentioned it seems GotSent still works on these mkv files that didnt work with mkv2vob plus GotSent will convert it to mp4 or mux to vob and yes it still worked muxing to vob these files that mkv2vob didn't in trying to do the same thing.

i'm jus still curious why 3rlc suggested converting to mp4 for those mkv files that dont work with mkv2vob as if he knew that any with aac audio wont and made it that way on purpose maybe as if any mkv with aac audio will maybe have 5.1 audio in mp4 format with the added benefit of ff/rw that vob doesnt?

till i get answers, didnt feel like wasting time trying both to test and just used GotSent to mux those mkv files to vob that didnt work in mkv2vob.

as far as you file splitter prog, it seems great. i've been using mkvmergeGuI as suggested by some on this thread, but this file splitter prog is much simpler and with the added bonus of the remerge file.

I'm not sure why ppl were splitting the mkv first. Can't we use this file splitter prog to split the finished .vob file? add the remerge file, put the 2 split .vob files and remerge file on a fat32, copy all 3 to the ps3 internal and then run the remerge exe file to remerge the 2 vob files into one?

i guess the ps3 can't run an exe file like that to do that? so this would be useless for ps3 ppl. if you try to remerge the files on the fat32 hdd, the hdd wont accept it or ps3 wont read the file larger then 4gb.

could be handy for other things but i dont see how the remerging file will be of use with ps3 in less somehow it does work once all 3 are transfered to the ps3 internal but you didnt specify that and i doubt it.

[AcuraKidd]

As far as the file splitter program is concerned, its a very simple concept.

Do whatever you gotta do with your file on the computer, once fully finished, split the file, copy over the spilt files to an external fat32 hard drive, and once all the files are on that hard drive, remerge them, and then connect the hdd to the ps3 and just copy the file over through the xmb, or just play it straight from the hdd.

And I'm gonna give the GotSent program a try later today and let you know how it goes

[Quatre]

i think file splitter prog doesn't work for actually wanting 2 sep files that work whether you split the .mkv first or the .vob file.

it adds .1 and .2 at the end of the file when i split the vob file i made from an mkv only the part2 file plays and it plays from the beginning of the movie so its not right.

so i think that prog just is only if you intend on remerging the split files and no way to do that on ps3, so using mkvmergegui to split the mkv first then make 2 .vob from them is prob still the best way?

[Quatre]

As far as the file splitter program is concerned, its a very simple concept.

Do whatever you gotta do with your file on the computer, once fully finished, split the file, copy over the spilt files to an external fat32 hard drive, and once all the files are on that hard drive, remerge them, and then connect the hdd to the ps3 and just copy the file over through the xmb, or just play it straight from the hdd.

And I'm gonna give the GotSent program a try later today and let you know how it goes

by "do whatever you gotta do with your file on the computer" do you mean mux the .mkv to .vob using mkv2vob or GotSent, in this case.

copy the 2 split files and the remerg .exe file onto the fat32 hdd. fine. remerge them using the exe file? not fine as it will then make one file larger then 4gb that the fat32 hdd will not accept. I imagine it gets an error during the remerge and even if not no device like the ps3 that reads from the fat32 hdd will magically see this remerged file larger then 4gb. i'm almost ready to try it just to see but i'm 99.9% positive it will not work.

you must not be realizing the fat32 4gb file limit. whats the point of splitting the file into <4gb parts if your are just going to remerge it into one larger then 4gb then. this is prob for using fat32 or similiar to transfer something over to something that isnt fat32 and then remerging to have one file. if you could copy all 3 file to the ps3 internal and then run the exe to merge them into one that would be great but the ps3 wont run the exe file.

[3r1c]

mkv2vob was working for me until now every x264 .mkv file I try of a certain tv show even different releases I get:

"Unsupported Video Codec: V_MS/VFW/FOURCC"



V_MS/VFW/FOURCC - Microsoft (TM) Video Codec Manager (VCM)

This is not a h264 video file.

[Quatre]

V_MS/VFW/FOURCC - Microsoft (TM) Video Codec Manager (VCM)

This is not a h264 video file.

what kind of x264 .mkv file is it then? it wont play on 360 or ps3 just as is though i'm sure. can you just change the extension to .mpg on this type? GotSent seemed to work on it and muxed it to .vob.

also if an .mkv has dts sound do you recommend converting it into an mp4 instead of mux to vob?

GotSent converts the mkv to .mp4 unless you specify for it to mux to vob instead and it has an option to automatcially split the file into parts <4GB so you can skip the step of using mkvmergegui or other prog to split the mkv first before using mkv2vob.

I'd just like to know when it is better to convert to mp4 rather then mux to vob. does converting to mp4 take the same amount of time as mux to vob? will the mp4 always be 2ch stereo audio? if so then why did you suggest converting mkv to mp4 when the mkv has aac/dts audio? (they are the same thing right?) if its still 2ch then most of the time i'd prob rther give up the ff/rw and 360 compatability for the full 5.1 audio .vob for ps3.

Just used GotSent on a x264 .mkv file with specs:
Video Format.........: x264
Video Bitrate........: Variable ~ 10554 (DVD9)
Resolution...........: 1920x800
FPS..................: 23.976
Audio................: DTS 1.5Mbps


figured i'd try not check mux to vob in GotSent and it just made 3 .mkv files (box checked for splitting into files <4gb)

at the end it said something no AC3 filter present. the audio is dts and it detected that when i loaded it in GS. so now what can i do with these 3 .mkv files? what did GS even do to them. are they mp4? tried renaming one of the files to a .mp4 but it didint' show up or play on ps3 so i have no idea what GS did to it then besides split it into 3 mkv files which wont be a total waste if GS (with mux to vob box checked) works on them or mkv2vob. but I thought if the mkv had dts sound it was better to conver it to mp4? what program could do this then, obviously not GS.

when i try check mark to mux to vob in GS on the orig mkv file i got some other error/warning about the audio but it allowed to go ahead with muxing the .mkv into .vob files <4gb.

again i tried renaming the new .mkv files to .mp4 but it doesn't show up or play in ps3 soi dont know what GS did to the mkv file with mux to vob box unchecked besides split it into 3 new mkv files. Will have to see what kind of .vob files it makes now from the orig mkv even though it got the audio error/warning when first starting that.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hi 3r1c,

Is there any particular reason why you have not mentioned the name of your application (ie: mkv2vob) in your thread title?


Cheers

[Quatre]

now with that dts audio mkv i split into 3 mkv and tried to make a vob using mkv2vob, it said error creating ac3 from wav at the end, so it wasted all that time attempting to make the vob only to fail and now i have to start over and ultimtely may have to reget the 720p version i deleted when i got this 1080p version with dts.

[3r1c]

i dont think you can split dts.

ive said it before and ill say again, mkv2vob was not designed to be used with split files, so you are risking it not working by splitting.

[Quatre]

but it will work making one .vob from the orig .mkv? then just find a way to transfer it onto the ps3 internall hdd i guess and just cant use fat32 ext. hdd.

what sucks is after you split the dts .mkv into 2-3 files, mkv2vob acts like it will work fine, it gets to the end and says can't make ac3 from wav, or something to that effect.

or basically there should be a warning with the program that it doesn't work with dts audio so that if were depending on using this prog we avoid getting x264 mkv with dts audio and try to find a version with ac3 instead.

wait a min i have an x264 .mkv movie with dts audio that I did fine by using mkvmergegui to split the mkv into 2 and then using mkv2vob or GotSent to mux them both to .vob. both parts play fine and work on the 360 so why is this one giving me trouble? is it just because its 1080p where as the one with dts audio that worked was 720p?

that would suck cus the whole point of going through all this trouble is so as not to have to wait just for a 720p wmv to come out cus they always make them 720p to fit on a dvd9 except for some shorter stuff like animations that still fit on dvd9 even in 1080p. The dutch on the other hand not only do more 1080p wmv's but more wmvhd rels in general it seems and release stuff first... but with hard coded nl subs which basically ruin the movie for you if you dont know dutch.

but all this trouble for mkv on ps3 and having to use fat32 hdd and split files, no dts audio, no ff/rw. starting to seem less worth it. might be time to just get a dedicated hw media player that plays everything no hassle.

[3r1c]

the problem is not with mkv2vob, there is no way to split dts, so whatever program your using to split is creating corrupted output files.

it does work with dts, but if the dts is corrupted it can fail after going through a few steps which take a long time.

ideally the best mkv file to have is 720p with ac3.
99% of 1080p arent valid level 4.1 encodes, which will need to be transcoded.

[Quatre]

ah and so the 1080p x264 mkv are even worse if you need to split for fat32 then because you are selecting No to transcoding and since 99% of those arent valid level 4.1 encodes and need the transcoding then they aren't going to work for splitting and not transcoding.

so like you said, ideally look for a 720p version with ac3 for use with this prog and especially if you need to split.

well that is kind of a damper then cus I was really looking for 1080p considering like I said most of the wmv are 720p catering to dvd9 even though many play from ext hdd or stream and would prefer it be 1080p.

oh well like I said between these limitations and the no ff/rw its seeming less worth it and might have to give up on the consoles and just get a dedicated player.

great work on this prog though and i still like it better then GotSent for the most part (though GS worked on a file that mkv2vob didn't).

Its prob best for tv eps that dont need to be split for us fat32 ext hdd users. or i guess for a 720p ac3 x264 mkv if you dont feel like waiting for the wmv version and dont mind splitting and not having ff/rw.

well tried the 1080p dts movie again and all seemed to work. split into 3 mkv files first and made a .vob of the first one and plays with audio on the ps3 but no video. what gives? i thought they just didnt play right on the pc either wrong speed or just audio like that. I think i've seen others say they had just audio and no video but again i thought that was just on the pc. ?_? renamed to .m2ts and it plays fine on pc with audio and video, test again on ps3 and still no video. i really give up this time.

why would the dts audio mess up the video. Like i said i seem to have a 720p mkv with dts audio that turned out fine into 2 playable .vob's. what caused this one to not work. i give up. and to think i had 2 working 720p ac3 split files of the same movie but deleted it to try the 1080p dts version.

would it work if I just used mkv2vob on the main .mkv before splitting and chose Yes to transcoding and then split that new transcoded .vob? I guess splitting the .vob doesnt' work or ppl would be doing that rather then splitting the mkv first and then making vob of each new mkv file.
prob not worth the time for me to try it just for a shot in the dark. plus not sure what prog to use to split the .vob as that file splitter prog seems only for remerging the split files, not actually using them as split files since it adds a .1 .2 .3 etc at the end of the file and just removing that to have the .vob extension i dont think works. and I have a feeling that using a prog to split the transcoded 1080p dts .vob from an x264 mkv will make split files but probably only one will work as I think i've seen happen.

[3r1c]

Do not click NO to transcoding unless you know what your doing.

Yes enables automatic detect, ie. it only transcodes if it needs to.

When splitting you should always select YES on the first split file, watch if it transcodes or not, then on the other parts press NO if no trancoding was done on the first part.

[Quatre]

Do not click NO to transcoding unless you know what your doing.

Yes enables automatic detect, ie. it only transcodes if it needs to.

When splitting you should always select YES on the first split file, watch if it transcodes or not, then on the other parts press NO if no trancoding was done on the first part.

so the 1080p dts file might have worked if i hit yes to transcoding? doen't that mess it up if you dealing with split files though?

always hit yes on the first, watch if it transcodes or not and then on the others hit no if it didnt?

the instructions that come up and as i understood isthat if you are working with split files to always hit No just as it says. If it auto detects why would hitting yes on the second or third file mess anything up if it did need to transcode the first, wouldn't it need the transcode the 2nd file? why would you need to hit yes for the first, watch to see if it did need to transcode or not and then hit yes or no on the second file depending what it did on the first? does it not auto detect on the second file? so you need to watch what it does to the first and then hit yes or no accordingly for the 2nd (and 3rd if you have that many split files) I thought hitting yes on split files made it not work period and hence why any that need to be transcoded aren't going to work for splitting.

[3r1c]

The reason is the auto detect only works for the first file in a split mkv, because the split tools do not properly copy the headers onto the other files, so you need to watch the first file and tell mkv2vob what to do with the other files.

The fact that the video didnt work on the ps3 means it needs transcoding, so for this movie you will need to click YES to all parts.

Transcoding increases filesize of the vob by about 50% so you should make your mkv parts about 2.5gb.

[Quatre]

The reason is the auto detect only works for the first file in a split mkv, because the split tools do not properly copy the headers onto the other files, so you need to watch the first file and tell mkv2vob what to do with the other files.

The fact that the video didnt work on the ps3 means it needs transcoding, so for this movie you will need to click YES to all parts.

Transcoding increases filesize of the vob by about 50% so you should make your mkv parts about 2.5gb.

ok thankyou for the clarification. so always click yes to transcoding and then where do I look to see if it does it or not so I know what to do for the next file(s)? in the dos screen. look to see if it says transcoding? i think i've seen it say that even when I didn't select yes to auto detect if transcoding is neccesary. So i just need to get straight on what to look for on that first file to see if it needs the transcoding or not. Hm, so that 1080p dts movie probably would have worked if I just hit yes to transcoding for all 3 files.

thanks for the headsup that it makes the file 50% larger so you dont want to make the original split mkv file size more then 2.5GB.

I guess I just was excited about the prospect of quick remuxing of the coveted x264 mkv playback on a console in this case the ps3. But nothing is perfect and now i'm realizing how much I use ff/rw.

Some ppl say just watch a movie straight through and pause is all you need. I used to be the same way but with a baby there are so many times where I miss something and need to rewind, or stop and resume later, skip by chapter and ffwd. All of which the 360 lets you do. So i guess i was really up on mkv2vob, then down on it when i ran into a few problems and now i think i'm just somehwere in the middle. I see it now as an alternative to taking 10 hrs to encode an mkv to wmv only for some time later an official ripped wmv of the same content. In fact on occasion i have taken the time to encode an mkv to wmv only for the "better" official rip from source release to come out by the time i'm done so it was wasted time. personally i dont see any quality degradation in encoing mkv to wmv but ppl call it a transcode and some say transcodes suck and degrade quality which makes me wonder if this is the case when the mkv needs transcoding also?

anyway for now, like I said, i see it as an alternative to encoding to wmv and then when and if the wmv comes out i can just get that for the ff/rw controls. but this way if i dont want to wait at least i have a way to watch it and a method that doesnt waste as muc time as encoding. Which also means i'm fine with sticking with more 720p mkv2vob's so when the wmv comes out and is usually 720p, i wont feel bad getting that and getting rid of my split 720p vobs. plus if i really want the 1080p and can get it to work then this would be one viable way.

tempted to try that same 1080p dts movie again and this time selecting yes to transcoding but I already deleted it and regot the 720p which i know works so its fine cus like i said, prob be a wmv of it soon as there already is a dutch subbed wmv of a lot of these so will soon be an english non subbed version to follow like often is the case.

[3r1c]

is there a reason you cannot stream from network?
all you need is your pc and ps3 connected to the same router, it works fine over wireless too.

[Quatre]

i have a wired connection but i prefer ext. hdd and not leaving the pc on. if its already on for something maybe. and i dont think it works just having it connected as it is. you have to add the file to the library of a program like wmp, or red kawa or tversity, all of which are annoying.

its not like streaming will give you ff/rw. it will just eliminate the splitting of files neccesary for fat32. ps3 should be able to read hfs+ file system (whic ipods use) as 360 can, but sony is stupid.

[3r1c]

i use tversity, all you have to do is add a folder in tversity, then when you add a new file to that folder just refresh tversity, its only 2 clicks.
you can also copy to the ps3 internal hdd over network (i havent tried this but i see others done it)

you could also buy a bluray burner and a rewritable disc, then you have 25gb on ufs.

[Quatre]

maybe i'll give tversity a try again, but i didnt like it and i dont liek streaming but yeah i'd try transfering to the ps3 internal with it maybe.

[Quatre]

my ps3 doenst' see tversity only wmp.

edit:

ok i got it. seems to work but doesn't show the proper info for the file. ie. says 0x0 resolution. maybe once copied to the ps3 internal. may just do that from now on to avoid the painful step of splitting the file and get more compatability and be able to hit yes to auto detect if transcode is neccesary. just copy the file to the ps3 internal.

may want to get a larger 2.5" sata for inside the ps3 now. will still maybe use the fat32 ext hdd for single files <4gb and for avchd camcorder footage etc. but yeah it seems for larger files, that it would be quicker to just add the file to tversity library, turn on the ps3 and use tversity mediaserver to copy the file to ps3 hdd and done for later viewing at any time. overall its prob quicker then splitting the files, mux each file, copy to fat32 hdd.

[3r1c]

yeah it always says 0x0 resolution it doesnt matter.
just make sure you have transcoding set to never in tversity (settings->transcoder)

[Quatre]

k thanks, working good so far. saves time splitting and works better with your prog :)

will just get new 2.5" sata soon.

[spida_singh]

I have just tried a 1080p dts mkv file, everything looked to be ok, clicked yes to transcoding. But output file was only 253MB? Any ideas?

Regards

[Quatre]

that happened to me once i think. someting didnt work. i'm doing a 1080p dts mkv now and its taking ages, so i know its transcoding. if wht 3rl1c says is true about "99% of 1080p arent valid level 4.1 encodes, which will need to be transcoded."

then its almost not worth getting the 1080p version let alone dts and what problems that causes or maybe the dts was just a problem to split.

ugh, this 1080p dts mkv is taking forever. I guess it had to transcode, i'm afraid its stuck in an infinite loop or is it supposed to take hours like this? if it has to transcode is it the same as encoding? like an mkv to wmv? if thats teh case then i mine as well have done wmv then so at least i could have ff/rw.

i guess really going to have to try to stick to 720p and pref ac3 i guess from now on. :\

[msbear]

Any idea to create the vob file with subtitles?? (from a srt subtitle file).

[buzzqw]

external subtitle are played by ps3, you must BURN it in video

BHH

[msbear]

How i can do that please??

I tried to find a way to play the srt subtitles in Tversity, but i dont know how to make the vob file use ffdshow to display the subtitles......

[buzzqw]

in ffdshow set "raw video" to "all supported"
launch media player classic and open your vobs, this will trigger ffdshow
in subtitle option (on ffdshow) select your subs

i don't use ffdshow for subtitle.. or tversity.. so my help is quite limited.. sorry

BHH

[Quatre]

yeah it always says 0x0 resolution it doesnt matter.
just make sure you have transcoding set to never in tversity (settings->transcoder)

once its transferred to the ps3 hdd though it shows all the info including resolution.

btw, when mkv2vob detects that the mkv needs to be transcoded to play on ps3 and makes an mpeg-2, yes it takes a lot longer, i think it was like 2-3hrs for a 1080p movie, but...

FF/RW works! so that is almost worth the extra time. So, I will prob go for 1080p first choice just for the higher res, even though i think you said 99% of 1080p mkv will need to be transcoded. yes the other catch is the 50% larger file size but again its almost worth teh FF/RW.

so its great that mkv2vob auto detects. now i'm not going to kill myself trying to get one version or another, if i get the 720p that doesnt need transcode i'll just appreciate the fast remux and smaller file size, and if its a 1080p and needs to be transcoded, i'll suck up the extra time to do so and the larger file size for the higher res and the FF/RW.

good stuff.

[AcuraKidd]

It's great that you were able to solve your problem, but I still cant play my MKV's due to the fact that mkv2vob always comes up with an error saying "Unsupported Audio Codec: A_AAC"

I already tried to demux the video and then remux it with yamb into an mp4 file, but it still doesn't work... :(

[Quatre]

i would just try a different version release of your content then at this point. I haven't found an x264 yet that either mkv2vob or GotSent couldn't mux to vob or transcode to mpeg-2.

[3r1c]

where did you get mkv with aac audio?
its not scene standards.

[MrAngles]

This might be weird but how do I demux the audio and video from a vob I made with mkv2vob? I don't have the original mkv and I want to convert the audio to aac and remux it to a mp4.

[busta.rhymes]

If I understood right. Now I can make an mpeg2 file? and it supports rewinding and fastforwarding? How can I force him to transcode?

[alexmae]

hi all :)

i can't download from the first page, it always gives me the 404 error. Can somebody make a mirror of the latest file?

Thanks:)

[Quatre]

If I understood right. Now I can make an mpeg2 file? and it supports rewinding and fastforwarding? How can I force him to transcode?

yes mpeg-2 has ff/rw. i dont think you can force mkv2vob to transcode. it just auto detects if you hit yes and if it needs it , it will do it.

try a diff prog that transcodes mkv to mpeg-2 every time then. but it takes a few hours where as remux to vob is minutes.

[busta.rhymes]

Which programm could I use for that?

[bgbop15]

here's one i havent found... how do you guys burn files to a disc for the PS3? For the 360, i use either dvd-r or +r, using imgburn and the UDF format.

I tried this with a bunch of .mp4 files for the ps3, and it did not read, as if I didnt even put the dvd in the drive

is the ps3 picky about this or what?

[3r1c]

i dont know about imgburn but discs made with nero express work fine on default settings.

[AcuraKidd]

and from my experience, Nero doesn't support burning mkv files, so im STILL screwed...

[3r1c]

What? nero doesnt limit or care what type of files you burn.
It will burn any files which are on your hd.

[AcuraKidd]

I tried burning a mkv to a dvd and used nero vision 4, and when i tried adding the file, it said it was anable to add the mkv file.

[3r1c]

dont use nero vision, use nero express and select dvd data disc. just drag and drop files.

not with mkv files, those wont play on ps3 without conversion to mp4 or vob.

convert the file first, then burn the vob or mp4 with nero express.

[busta.rhymes]

Which programm can i use to explicitly convert mkv to mpeg2 wich supports fast forwarding and ac3?

[survivant001]

Which programm can i use to explicitly convert mkv to mpeg2 wich supports fast forwarding and ac3?

there is Adobe Encore CS3

[survivant001]

@3r1c

it is possible to add a normalized audio step in the process ?

I watched a movie yesterday and the voice in the center speaker wasn't loud enough.. couldn't here the dialogue :(

thanks

[buzzqw]

since the audio is copied .. it isn't possible.

this application have some serius potential.. but lack of support to wide audio codecs..

i think will be easy to add a option to transcode audio from aac (for example) to ac3, and so correctly muxing in vob

like this
ffmpeg.exe -i test.mkv -ac 6 -vn -acodec ac3 -ab 448000 -f ac3 -y audio.ac3

BHH

[SCSI]

The audio volume of the muxed vob file is much lower than the original mkv file. Does anyone know how to keep the original volume?

FYI, the mkv that I tried to convert to vob has DTS.

[3r1c]

The audio volume of the muxed vob file is much lower than the original mkv file. Does anyone know how to keep the original volume?

FYI, the mkv that I tried to convert to vob has DTS.

Im curious how you are able to determine this since the DTS would be unplayable on the ps3, so you have nothing to compare it to?!

If you are playing on a pc this is not supported.

[SCSI]

The MKV that I converted has a DTS soundtrack which your application converted to AC3. The VOB output has AC3 and didn't have DTS.

Happy new year:)

[B4tm4n]

Which programm can i use to explicitly convert mkv to mpeg2 wich supports fast forwarding and ac3?
http://www.redkawa.com/videoconverters/ps3video9/

[3r1c]

The MKV that I converted has a DTS soundtrack which your application converted to AC3. The VOB output has AC3 and didn't have DTS.

Happy new year:)

Yeah I already know that, that doesnt answer the question.

The volume is not changed, and since you cant play the DTS what makes you think its changed? ie. your comparing the low volume in AC3 to what exactly? the complete silence of unplayable DTS?

Different movies and shows are encoded in different volume, i have to change the volume on my tv depending on the channel/movie etc.. its nothing unusual.
Just higher your volume if its too low.

[pjclay27]

I just had a quick question about GotSent. First, I would like to thank the developer of mkv2vob. I started out using it and it worked great. The only reason I haven't used it much was because converting to vob meant I had to use a lot of DL discs. I used GotSent because it converted to MP4 and I don't have a surround sound system and I was able to fit most movies on 1 DVD-R. The problem I am having is one of the files I converted to mp4 would burn succesfully on disc but when I played it in PS3 it would say corrupted data. I used Nero Express and Data DVD and was below the limit for disc capacity. I thought it must have been a bad file but I used GotSent the second time and split it two discs and burned one and it played fine. Has anyone else had this problem?

[3r1c]

this is because gotsent doesnt do any detection of unplayable files. not all h264 files are playable on ps3, only ones which are level 4.1 and below. a small number of 720p and most 1080p are not playable and needs to be transcoded.

[pjclay27]

Why would the file not work when I put it on one DVD-R but when I split the mkv into two files and then burned it worked? Also does mkv2vob do mp4 conversion or vob only?

[pjclay27]

to rephrase my last post, i take the mkv and use gotsent to convert to mp4. i try burning on dvd-r and ps3 shows it as corrupted data. i tried again with gotsent but this time i split into two files to convert to mp4. this second process works on ps3. why would the same mp4 work on splitting but not on single dvd-r?

[3r1c]

Your in the wrong thread, this thread isnt anything to do with gotsent.

[andres_lol]

3r1c there is any way to see subtitles??? embebed or external in srt format??
:thanks:

[georgem67]

Does anyone know how to change 1080p mkv to 720p mkv
thanks

[Atak_Snajpera]

Without re-encoding not possible

[georgem67]

How do you re-encode the 1080p mkv ( V_MPEG4 ) to a 1280 x 528 resolution??

[Atak_Snajpera]

RipBot264 :)

[survivant001]

liek Atak_Snajpera said : ripbot264 or you have automkv too. Depends of what you want to do.

[Numer0bis]

this is because gotsent doesnt do any detection of unplayable files. not all h264 files are playable on ps3, only ones which are level 4.1 and below. a small number of 720p and most 1080p are not playable and needs to be transcoded.

I've used to extract h264 streams from mkv files and encoded the ac3 audio to aac and put everything into mp4 with yamb. Some worked and some didn't. Is my assumption correct that this had only to do with the supported avc level. If I change the level to 4.1 with h264info most of the streams should work even with mp4. Because I really like mkv2vob but sometimes I really do love to seek and the ps3 just won't seek with vob files. (Most were 720p not 1080p)

Greetz

Numer0bis

[3r1c]

changing the level with h264info only works if the level is set wrong at encoding time (ie. whoever encoded it doesnt know how to use x264 properly), but if the properties of the video actually require a level higher then 4.1 then changing the level doesnt help and there is no way to make that video play except transcoding.

[pjclay27]

Just had a a few questions about mkv2vob. First to be able to split mkv and have vob fit on DVD-R i need to split around the 2.5GB mark? Also, I need to select yes for auto transcoding on first split file and if no transcoding is done click no on the second file? Also, how do I get mkv2vob remux to vob every time. I read where it only takes minutes. Every time I load mkv file and hit yes to auto transcoding it takes a lot longer.

[3r1c]

if your file needs transcoding there is no way around it, this is done because the file is not encoded at level 4.1

wherever possible the file is remuxed with no transcoding.

[pjclay27]

That's no problem with the transcoding if needed. Also, as far as selecting yes for auto transcoding on the first split file, what do I need to look for to see if it's transcoding. Also, with my previous post, is 2.5GB a good setting for split file?

[3r1c]

2.5gb should be ok, but really its just a guess, the movie is transcoded at vbr with no bitrate limit, so if its an action movie will probably be bigger. really this program was created with streaming in mind, not fat or disc storage.

i will consider putting a split option in the next version

you need to watch if the h264info window opens, if it opens then there is no transcoding.

[pjclay27]

Thanks for the response and for the software. I will test with the 2.5GB range. The only mkv's I use are 720p with AC3.

[D1E]

3r1c: thank you for this AWESOME application - it works fantastically well for me!

If I could make a single request however, it would be to add a batch mode (if possible). It would be great to queue up a directory of files to convert from .mkv to .vob and leave my PC unattended overnight to find the process complete!

Thank you!

[jamos]

http://www.redkawa.com/videoconverters/ps3video9/

I do not think that program supports AC3 output it converts it to aac stereo.

[jamos]

2.5gb should be ok, but really its just a guess, the movie is transcoded at vbr with no bitrate limit, so if its an action movie will probably be bigger. really this program was created with streaming in mind, not fat or disc storage.

i will consider putting a split option in the next version

you need to watch if the h264info window opens, if it opens then there is no transcoding.


also if it is not to hard to do can you put in a force transcoding option to mpeg2. I know it takes more space and is slower but I would rather have a file i can ff/rw.

Awesome app man!

[georgem67]

I have tried this file but the video is unplayable...the sound is ok. Any ideas?

(MKVInfo) + EBML head at 0
(MKVInfo) |+ Doc type: matroska at 5
(MKVInfo) |+ Doc type version: 1 at 16
(MKVInfo) |+ Doc type read version: 1 at 20
(MKVInfo) + Segment, size 4467102126 at 24
(MKVInfo) |+ Seek head at 36
(MKVInfo) | + Seek entry at 41
(MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x15 0x49 0xa9 0x66 (KaxInfo) at 44
(MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 4099 at 51
(MKVInfo) | + Seek entry at 56
(MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x16 0x54 0xae 0x6b (KaxTracks) at 59
(MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 4261 at 66
(MKVInfo) | + Seek entry at 71
(MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x11 0x4d 0x9b 0x74 (KaxSeekHead) at 74
(MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 4467048011 at 81
(MKVInfo) | + Seek entry at 89
(MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x1c 0x53 0xbb 0x6b (KaxCues) at 92
(MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 4467017403 at 99
(MKVInfo) |+ EbmlVoid (size: 4025) at 107
(MKVInfo) |+ Segment information at 4135
(MKVInfo) | + Timecode scale: 1000000 at 4141
(MKVInfo) | + Muxing application: libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1 at 4148
(MKVInfo) | + Writing application: mkvmerge v2.1.0 ('Another Place To Fall') built on Aug 19 2007 13:40:07 at 4186
(MKVInfo) | + Duration: 5625.040s (01:33:45.040000000) at 4260
(MKVInfo) | + Date: Sun Jan 06 22:29:30 2008 UTC at 4267
(MKVInfo) | + Segment UID: 0x84 0x63 0x5a 0x77 0xde 0xb4 0xd8 0x55 0x9a 0x81 0xac 0xf4 0xaa 0xc6 0x2d 0xad at 4278
(MKVInfo) |+ Segment tracks at 4297
(MKVInfo) | + A track at 4303
(MKVInfo) | + Track number: 1 at 4306
(MKVInfo) | + Track UID: 1 at 4309
(MKVInfo) | + Track type: video at 4313
(MKVInfo) | + Enabled: 1 at 4316
(MKVInfo) | + Default flag: 1 at 4319
(MKVInfo) | + Forced flag: 0 at 4322
(MKVInfo) | + Lacing flag: 0 at 4326
(MKVInfo) | + MinCache: 1 at 4329
(MKVInfo) | + Timecode scale: 1.000000 at 4333
(MKVInfo) | + Max BlockAddition ID: 0 at 4341
(MKVInfo) | + Codec ID: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC at 4345
(MKVInfo) | + Codec decode all: 1 at 4362
(MKVInfo) | + CodecPrivate, length 132 at 4365
(MKVInfo) | + Default duration: 40.000ms (25.000 fps for a video track) at 4501
(MKVInfo) | + Language: eng at 4509
(MKVInfo) | + Video track at 4516
(MKVInfo) | + Pixel width: 1280 at 4518
(MKVInfo) | + Pixel height: 528 at 4522
(MKVInfo) | + Interlaced: 0 at 4526
(MKVInfo) | + Display width: 80 at 4529
(MKVInfo) | + Display height: 33 at 4533
(MKVInfo) | + A track at 4537
(MKVInfo) | + Track number: 2 at 4539
(MKVInfo) | + Track UID: 152902803 at 4542
(MKVInfo) | + Track type: audio at 4549
(MKVInfo) | + Enabled: 1 at 4552
(MKVInfo) | + Default flag: 1 at 4555
(MKVInfo) | + Forced flag: 0 at 4558
(MKVInfo) | + Lacing flag: 1 at 4562
(MKVInfo) | + MinCache: 0 at 4565
(MKVInfo) | + Timecode scale: 1.000000 at 4569
(MKVInfo) | + Max BlockAddition ID: 0 at 4577
(MKVInfo) | + Codec ID: A_DTS at 4581
(MKVInfo) | + Codec decode all: 1 at 4588
(MKVInfo) | + Language: und at 4591
(MKVInfo) | + Audio track at 4598
(MKVInfo) | + Sampling frequency: 48000.000000 at 4600
(MKVInfo) | + Channels: 6 at 4606
(MKVInfo) |+ EbmlVoid (size: 1024) at 4609
(MKVInfo) |+ Cluster at 5636

Cheers

[Atak_Snajpera]

DTS audio is not supported

[fredward]

I am having issues with 720p mkv files with DTS. I use the mkv to vob tool and I usually never have any issues with it until now. I downloaded a mkv file with DTS on it and its suppose to change it to AC3. Every time it is Transcoding I keep getting (Error unable to create WAV to AC3) Any solutions on this? This is on every mkv file that has DTS in it.

[jamos]

I am having issues with 720p mkv files with DTS. I use the mkv to vob tool and I usually never have any issues with it until now. I downloaded a mkv file with DTS on it and its suppose to change it to AC3. Every time it is Transcoding I keep getting (Error unable to create WAV to AC3) Any solutions on this? This is on every mkv file that has DTS in it.

I have not tried a dts file in 1.3 yet. It worked in 1.2 i know.

[fredward]

Where can i get the 1.2?

[fredward]

never mind, I got it. I just did it and still does the same thing. Any other solutions on this? Seems like the majority of mkv videos are DTS for some reason.

[Quatre]

@3r1c

it is possible to add a normalized audio step in the process ?

I watched a movie yesterday and the voice in the center speaker wasn't loud enough.. couldn't here the dialogue :(

thanks

i noticed this on a couple mkv. I dont know if the orig mkv was like that or if its something that happens during the remux, but everything else was louder then the center speaker dialogue. I had to manually turn up my center speaker to better here the talking where as usually the dialog and center speaker are often the loudest.

[jamos]

if your file needs transcoding there is no way around it, this is done because the file is not encoded at level 4.1

wherever possible the file is remuxed with no transcoding.

hey 3r can you give us the command line that you use to transcode to mpeg2? I can do most of this manually but am having issues with that one. I assume you are using ffmpeg to do this but am struggling with the options.

thanks for any help.

[Quatre]

I just wanted to reiterate what has worked for me. Originally I was set on playing from a fat32 ext. hdd as that is my preferred method with the 360 and wmv files. But the 360 can read from hfs+ formatted ext. hdd which doesnt have the 4gb file limit like fat32.

So, I started to realize maybe it wasn't the best method for playback on ps3 as the whole point of mkv2vob was a quick remux of mkv for compatible playback on ps3, but splitting the file took an extra step and time.

Using TVersity to let the ps3 see the file on your pc and then just copy it onto the ps3 internal hdd seems to be the best. I do it once just like transferring from pc to an ext. hdd and then i dont have to leave pc on to stream as the video file(s) are there on the ps3.

Now, as far as some mkv needed transcoding and others not, I loved how mkv2vob auto detects that for you and does what it needs to do. I can't understand ppl wasting media burning discs on files they aren't sure will work made from other programs wile mkv2vob ensures it will by autodetecting.

I just want to add that I think optical media is already kind of dated and will eventually be phased out by more and cheaper solid state options (hdd and memory cards etc.).

Now, my attitude with the mkv's and ps3 was that I would just usually go for the 1080p version if that was available, because I want the higher resolution. Its been said that the majority (i think 99% is quoted) of 1080p need to be transcoded, yes this takes longer and takes away a little from one of the main draws of this program of a quick remux of mkv to something compatible with ps3.

But I will say for a fact that it is 10x quicker then encoding an mkv to wmv. And yes it makes the file size larger, but again if you are using hdd then this doesnt matter as much. I've said before basically I just go with whatever mkv2vob needs to do, if it transcodes (to mpeg-2) cus its 1080p, I suck up the transcode time and the larger file size for the benefit of the higher res and the full ff/rw controls. Its more then worth it and thats probably my preference.

For the 720p stuff that can be remuxed to .vob (avc), I just appreciate the super fast remuxing and smaller file size at the sacrifice of no ff/rw controls.

But again my preference is 1080p transcoded to mpeg-2 because I dont mind the transcoding time (again its way way quicker then encoding to wmv) nor does the larger file size scare me. Now I will say that if doing a lot of 1080p that need to be transcoded and using the method of copying the file to the ps3 hdd then unless you dont have much on there (60gb) and just put like 3 movies at a time then remove them off there after you watch, you will prob want to upgrade the 2.5" sata in the ps3 which is no problem.

I'm looking into doing that but wanted to get a good price on the largest possible which is 320gb and wanted to make sure the ps3 can make full use of a 320gb 2.5" sata and didn't have a 250gb limit or something.

The only thing i'm thinking now with the 720p stuff that can be remuxed is that being there is no ff/rw, it may be worth splitting the file so at least you can watch half then the other half or whatever later and worst comes to worst if you have to start the clip over and do the slow 1.5 ff to get to where you left off (since it doesnt support resume either) then at least if your file is split you dont have as much to go through i dunno. So I figured maybe I will do the 720p remuxed vob stuff split and on fat32 again after all.

The only thing is, i still haven't heard of a prog that will split the finished .vob (already remuxed from mkv) into 3.99gb or smaller parts. So id have to just assume that most all 720p mkv were fine to be remuxed for ps3 and just split the mkv first then make a .vob of each split file using mkv2vob and selecting no to autodetect/transcode. that wasy the 720p stuff that can be remuxed and doesnt have ff/rw controls can go on the fat32 ext hdd and save room on the ps3 internal for the large transcoded mpeg-2's.

But that is extra work and defeats the purpose a little of the remux being quick, so I as someone else mentioned may also be interested in a program that just transcodes the mkv to mpeg-2 every time. Again I dont mind the time it takes so much to transcode nor the large file size as these days with a baby and coordinating watchign stuff with my wife, it seems the ability to resume where I left off plus full ff/rw etc. controls is vital.

I know some say, if your going to watch a movie then just watch it straight through. I feel the same way but when the wife falls asleep in the middle of the movie, even if i continue watching then for her to resume means she will have to ff at 1.5x (which is all the .vob's allow) which is really slow and is just like slightly faster talking etc. Its just not a very reasonable way to have to resume.

I just think the ability to resume and ff/rw is going to be more and more important to more ppl and the lack there of takes away from the usefullness of the quick remux. I think everyone is clear that it is the ps3's fault and not mkv2vob or any other program.

But, 3rlc, might I suggest maybe making an option in future version of mkv2vob to force transcode even if the file doesnt' neccesarily need it for playback on ps3. I mean the autodetect is great, only doing it if it needs it to play on ps3, where as ppl are using other progs like GotSent which doesnt have ps3 in mind and you can end up with a file that wont play on ps3 (especially wateful for ppl putting on discs) mkv2vob ensures you will have a file that is compatible on ps3.

But yeah maybe there should be 2 options. 1. Auto detect, transcoding only if neccesary. and 2. Force transcode no matter what.

I would think that would be all thats needed because why would anyone using this prog for ps3 playback (which is what it is made for) need to turn off auto detect, because if they make a.vob of a mkv that needed to be transcoded to play on ps3 well then they have a useless file.

Again I'm slightly torn between just remuxing to vob for the 720p stuff that doesn't need to transcoded and just splitting the file up for fat32 to make resuming or watching in parts a little easier and free up my ps3 internal hdd space for 1080p transcoded mpeg-2's but thats ultimately maybe not even worth it to have a split file with no ff/rw. unless i really did it multiple parts to ensure resuming is easier but thast more work and too many files and i'm still not sure if ps3 can play one after another from an ext. hdd like it does off an ext. fat32 hdd camcorder (though it prob does as its the same thing).

The problem with the .vob's with no resume or ff/rw is then when the wmv comes out (usually not too long after the x264 mkv) I end up just getting that if the version i currently have is a remuxed vob with no ff/rw which is then a waste that I got it in the first place and especially if split the file and all.

But if I have a 1080p mkv transcoded to mpeg-2 able to be copied to my ps3 itnernal and played anytime with pc off, then I wouldn't bother getting the WMV version, especially since most wmv releases are 720p (usually for the reason of fitting on dvd9). The only reason to ditch my mkv transcoded to mpeg-2 and get the wmv if the wmv is also 1080p would be for the smaller file size but that is kind of less important and as long as my mkv transcoded to mpeg-2 has the same resume, ff/rw controls as the wmv then I'd really have no good reason to reget something I already took the time to get and transcode etc. just for a diff file type.

so yes again, formal request here, as I saw someone else mention it also, to have an option in mkv2vob to force transcode (to mpeg-2 i guess is the only compatible choice) even for 720p mkv that dont neccesarily need it to play on ps3. For the ppl with kids and wives etc. or just really want/need resume, ff and rw etc.

thanks and sorry for long post

[Quatre]

for some mkv's (tv eps if it matters) i'm getting an error when i try torun mkv2vob on it that says 'Unsupported Video Codec: V_MS/VFW/FOURCC'

i think I showed that one before but what does it mean and what can i do to it to get it to play on ps3 or 360? the MS in there is microsoft? in what prog can i look at this file to see exactly what it is so I know what type of prog to use on it to transcode or remux it?

[georgem67]

I have tried this file but the video is unplayable...the sound is ok. Any ideas?

(MKVInfo) + EBML head at 0
(MKVInfo) |+ Doc type: matroska at 5
(MKVInfo) |+ Doc type version: 1 at 16
(MKVInfo) |+ Doc type read version: 1 at 20
(MKVInfo) + Segment, size 4467102126 at 24
(MKVInfo) |+ Seek head at 36
(MKVInfo) | + Seek entry at 41
(MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x15 0x49 0xa9 0x66 (KaxInfo) at 44
(MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 4099 at 51
(MKVInfo) | + Seek entry at 56
(MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x16 0x54 0xae 0x6b (KaxTracks) at 59
(MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 4261 at 66
(MKVInfo) | + Seek entry at 71
(MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x11 0x4d 0x9b 0x74 (KaxSeekHead) at 74
(MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 4467048011 at 81
(MKVInfo) | + Seek entry at 89
(MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x1c 0x53 0xbb 0x6b (KaxCues) at 92
(MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 4467017403 at 99
(MKVInfo) |+ EbmlVoid (size: 4025) at 107
(MKVInfo) |+ Segment information at 4135
(MKVInfo) | + Timecode scale: 1000000 at 4141
(MKVInfo) | + Muxing application: libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1 at 4148
(MKVInfo) | + Writing application: mkvmerge v2.1.0 ('Another Place To Fall') built on Aug 19 2007 13:40:07 at 4186
(MKVInfo) | + Duration: 5625.040s (01:33:45.040000000) at 4260
(MKVInfo) | + Date: Sun Jan 06 22:29:30 2008 UTC at 4267
(MKVInfo) | + Segment UID: 0x84 0x63 0x5a 0x77 0xde 0xb4 0xd8 0x55 0x9a 0x81 0xac 0xf4 0xaa 0xc6 0x2d 0xad at 4278
(MKVInfo) |+ Segment tracks at 4297
(MKVInfo) | + A track at 4303
(MKVInfo) | + Track number: 1 at 4306
(MKVInfo) | + Track UID: 1 at 4309
(MKVInfo) | + Track type: video at 4313
(MKVInfo) | + Enabled: 1 at 4316
(MKVInfo) | + Default flag: 1 at 4319
(MKVInfo) | + Forced flag: 0 at 4322
(MKVInfo) | + Lacing flag: 0 at 4326
(MKVInfo) | + MinCache: 1 at 4329
(MKVInfo) | + Timecode scale: 1.000000 at 4333
(MKVInfo) | + Max BlockAddition ID: 0 at 4341
(MKVInfo) | + Codec ID: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC at 4345
(MKVInfo) | + Codec decode all: 1 at 4362
(MKVInfo) | + CodecPrivate, length 132 at 4365
(MKVInfo) | + Default duration: 40.000ms (25.000 fps for a video track) at 4501
(MKVInfo) | + Language: eng at 4509
(MKVInfo) | + Video track at 4516
(MKVInfo) | + Pixel width: 1280 at 4518
(MKVInfo) | + Pixel height: 528 at 4522
(MKVInfo) | + Interlaced: 0 at 4526
(MKVInfo) | + Display width: 80 at 4529
(MKVInfo) | + Display height: 33 at 4533
(MKVInfo) | + A track at 4537
(MKVInfo) | + Track number: 2 at 4539
(MKVInfo) | + Track UID: 152902803 at 4542
(MKVInfo) | + Track type: audio at 4549
(MKVInfo) | + Enabled: 1 at 4552
(MKVInfo) | + Default flag: 1 at 4555
(MKVInfo) | + Forced flag: 0 at 4558
(MKVInfo) | + Lacing flag: 1 at 4562
(MKVInfo) | + MinCache: 0 at 4565
(MKVInfo) | + Timecode scale: 1.000000 at 4569
(MKVInfo) | + Max BlockAddition ID: 0 at 4577
(MKVInfo) | + Codec ID: A_DTS at 4581
(MKVInfo) | + Codec decode all: 1 at 4588
(MKVInfo) | + Language: und at 4591
(MKVInfo) | + Audio track at 4598
(MKVInfo) | + Sampling frequency: 48000.000000 at 4600
(MKVInfo) | + Channels: 6 at 4606
(MKVInfo) |+ EbmlVoid (size: 1024) at 4609
(MKVInfo) |+ Cluster at 5636

Cheers

Seems the problem could be that the Video is 25fps...!!!
H264info errors stating that video is not HD.....when the new mkv2vob does make a playable video from this file...the Audio is out of Sync....
Can anybody help on how to re-sync Audio to fit...

[Fishingham]

I've used to extract h264 streams from mkv files and encoded the ac3 audio to aac and put everything into mp4 with yamb. Some worked and some didn't. Is my assumption correct that this had only to do with the supported avc level. If I change the level to 4.1 with h264info most of the streams should work even with mp4. Because I really like mkv2vob but sometimes I really do love to seek and the ps3 just won't seek with vob files. (Most were 720p not 1080p)

Greetz

Numer0bis

What are you using to convert the AC3 to AAC? Something I would like to try and experiment with, but haven't found an elegant solution that is VISTA happy.

[Numer0bis]

What are you using to convert the AC3 to AAC? Something I would like to try and experiment with, but haven't found an elegant solution that is VISTA happy.

Well there are several ways of doing this. Either use Besweet with or without belight or do it the easy way: Just use MeGui.

[jamos]

Seems the problem could be that the Video is 25fps...!!!
H264info errors stating that video is not HD.....when the new mkv2vob does make a playable video from this file...the Audio is out of Sync....
Can anybody help on how to re-sync Audio to fit...

could try to do the steps that mkv2vob does manually. It is pretty easy. All the executables are in the tools sub-directory.

first use command line to use mkvextract the mkv into two files (the first will be the video, second the audio).

note: you may have to do a additional step to convert the audio if it is not ac3 but am not sure on how to do that yet but i think you use tranzcode??

then use h264info gui to set the video stream to the 4.1 setting (as you see it do automatically).

then instead of using the default 23.976 that mkv2vob does just do the same ffmpeg command line manually using 25 as the frame rate like below.

ffmpeg -r 25 -f h264 -i video.h264 -f ac3 -i audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob output.vob

where video.h264 is your extracted and patched video stream, and audio.ac3 is your audio stream.

[georgem67]

Thanks...I'll give it a try...
I've actually had a go with changing the fps with mkmerge & now using adobe audition to stretch the audio without changing pitch...It's taking quite a while...but I'll let you know..
Cheers

[fonkee1]

Thanks...I'll give it a try...
I've actually had a go with changing the fps with mkmerge & now using adobe audition to stretch the audio without changing pitch...It's taking quite a while...but I'll let you know..
Cheers

George,

Are you trying to convert 1080p as well? I have out of sync Audio with my 1080P mkv files as well lately. I have been trying to use AutoMKV and Ripbot264, but they take a looooong time when trying to downconvert 1080p ---> 720P.

Mkv2VOB and Ripbot264 authors should combine forces :eek:

[jamos]

it looks like it uses tranzcode to extract the dts file into a mux file then besweet to mix it back into ac3 stream. There is a newer version of tranzcode out there, you all may want to expirement with it instead of the one packaged with mkv2vob to see if you get better results with dts conversions.

http://tranzcode.byethost22.com/

[3r1c]

then instead of using the default 23.976 that mkv2vob does just do the same ffmpeg command line manually using 25 as the frame rate like below.

ffmpeg -r 25 -f h264 -i video.h264 -f ac3 -i audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob output.vob

mkv2vob already does this correctly.
this sync issue with 25fps was fixed months ago, make sure to use the latest version.

ignore the h264info error, its because your video height is 528 instead of 720, it doesnt matter.

i would say the problem might have something to do with all those "seek" headers in the mkv.
The a/v might not actually be in sync, the headers are just correcting it.

[jamos]

mkv2vob already does this correctly.
this sync issue with 25fps was fixed months ago, make sure to use the latest version.

ignore the h264info error, its because your video height is 528 instead of 720, it doesnt matter.

i would say the problem might have something to do with all those "seek" headers in the mkv.
The a/v might not actually be in sync, the headers are just correcting it.

also georg you can use options in besweet to set an audio delay but that means you would have to do all the steps manually including the mux batch for tranzcode stuff. there is a besweet gui out there but I am having issues getting it to work correctly. the beta .40 version of tranzcode seems to also handle ac3 files so you could correct audio sync issue with those too it looks like (though you shouldnt have that issue if your just copying ac3 in ffmpeg). I wouldnt mess with the video as 3r states it is fine.

also 25 fps is pal and 23.976 fps is ntsc.

[pjclay27]

Just a quick question? If I have a file under 4Gb, which one will allow me to fit on DVD-R, vob or mpeg-2? I read a post here earlier that muxing to vob will increase file size by 50%. Is mpeg-2 smaller? I know this program is designed for streaming files but I prefer putting on discs for PS3. If mpeg-2 file size is smaller than vob it would be nice to have the option to do a force transcode.

[jamos]

Just a quick question? If I have a file under 4Gb, which one will allow me to fit on DVD-R, vob or mpeg-2? I read a post here earlier that muxing to vob will increase file size by 50%. Is mpeg-2 smaller? I know this program is designed for streaming files but I prefer putting on discs for PS3. If mpeg-2 file size is smaller than vob it would be nice to have the option to do a force transcode.

acutally the mpeg-2 file will be larger by about 50% using the same bitrate.

[jamos]

DTS audio is not supported

it is transcoded to ac3.

[jamos]

hey 3r am I doing something wrong here? trying to transcode the video stream to mpeg2. keeps stoping after 4k.

ffmpeg -r 23.976 -f h264 -i video.h264 -f ac3 -i audio.ac3 -vcodec mpeg2video -acodec copy -f vob 310.vob

[Quatre]

if i get the error "Unsupported Video Codec: V_MS/VFW/FOURCC" when trying to use mkv2vob on an mkv, is it possible it is already in a format that plays on the ps3? when i used GotSent on it i saw it said something about it being an avi so maybe i can jsut rename the extension and it will play on ps3?

had an ep today that i used something on it to remux or transcode, i think mkv2vob didnt work on it, i had what seemed like a working file on ps3 but then a little into the show the video slowed down to a crawl for a few min, got normal here and there but then back to super slow or frozen. what is causing this?

What prog can just transcode these into mpeg-2? why is ps3 so frustrating like this? you get files that look like they work when you test only to find that when you go to watch them something happens a few minutes in and makes it unplayable. before this freeze up super slow mo problem i've had video files stop 10 min into the video and say unsupported, i could then ffwd back to that point and play and it would play for another 10 min before stopping and saying the same thing.

it makes it impossilbe to see what isworking and what isn't when you test files, they seem like they are working only to find they dont play in entirety without major problems.

[georgem67]

mkv2vob already does this correctly.
this sync issue with 25fps was fixed months ago, make sure to use the latest version.

ignore the h264info error, its because your video height is 528 instead of 720, it doesnt matter.

i would say the problem might have something to do with all those "seek" headers in the mkv.
The a/v might not actually be in sync, the headers are just correcting it.

Do I close the h264 error popup when it happens or leave it?
How do I run the command line : ffmpeg -r 25 -f h264 -i video.h264 -f ac3 -i audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob output.vob when my ffmpeg is here:
C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67\Desktop\tools
And do I have to give the names of the h264 and ac3 files?
Thanks again
George

[georgem67]

could try to do the steps that mkv2vob does manually. It is pretty easy. All the executables are in the tools sub-directory.

first use command line to use mkvextract the mkv into two files (the first will be the video, second the audio).

note: you may have to do a additional step to convert the audio if it is not ac3 but am not sure on how to do that yet but i think you use tranzcode??

then use h264info gui to set the video stream to the 4.1 setting (as you see it do automatically).

then instead of using the default 23.976 that mkv2vob does just do the same ffmpeg command line manually using 25 as the frame rate like below.

ffmpeg -r 25 -f h264 -i video.h264 -f ac3 -i audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob output.vob

where video.h264 is your extracted and patched video stream, and audio.ac3 is your audio stream.

Use tranzcode to create 6 mono wavs....then I use Softencode to batch create an AC3 file from the 6 wavs....takes around 40mins...go into softencode settings and make the AC3 = 640kbps to get near dts quality.

Could you give me the command line for ffmpeg to create the vob from this info:
My ffmpeg is situated here : C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67\Desktop\tools
I have put my movie & AC3 file in the same folder...movie is named 'xmen' and audio is 'xmen.audio'

Cheers

[jamos]

Use tranzcode to create 6 mono wavs....then I use Softencode to batch create an AC3 file from the 6 wavs....takes around 40mins...go into softencode settings and make the AC3 = 640kbps to get near dts quality.

Could you give me the command line for ffmpeg to create the vob from this info:
My ffmpeg is situated here : C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67\Desktop\tools
I have put my movie & AC3 file in the same folder...movie is named 'xmen' and audio is 'xmen.audio'

Cheers

As 3r already stated his program basically does all this (though it uses tranzcode and besweet to convert dts to ac3).

but if you went that far, then to use ffmpeg you would go to where your files are and type
"C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67\Desktop\tools\ffmpeg.exe" -r 25 -f h264 -i x.264 -f ac3 -i x.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob x.vob
best to put this in a text batch file to make it easy to edit

where x.264 is your video file and x.ac3 is your audio, and x.vob is your output.

From what I am seeing so far is if mkv2avg transcodes the video is where the audio sync issues seem to come from (ie you hit yes in the popup at the beginning). it seems that ffmpeg when it uses mpeg2video it is messing up the audio probably due to it being out of sync to begin with in the mkv file and the mkv file is using headers to correct it.

best thing that i found for those problem files is just say no to the transcode question and it will not encode to mpeg2, but will still transcode the dts audio to ac3, but even that may not fix your issue. you still may have to transcode the file to mpeg2 and play around with the audio sync options in ffmpeg.

[Quatre]

well I used mkv2vob and GotSent on a bunhc of mkv tv eps and it made them .vob/.mpg but they only play for 5 min on the ps3 after which point every clip starts freezing going super slow and i see the kbps for audio and video dropping out when i have info up.

to have to play through each one at slow ff 1.5x just to get to between 4-6 minutes to see if it did it on each of 12 eps was a big waste of time whic is basically what video playback on theps3 ends up being.

i'm going strictly transcode to mpeg-2 now and hoping to find a program that does it. found a prog called super but it seems to do too much and more then i need it to in this case. need something simple that just makes an mpeg-2 for ps3 playback with no problems and full ff/rw controls.

[georgem67]

As 3r already stated his program basically does all this (though it uses tranzcode and besweet to convert dts to ac3).

but if you went that far, then to use ffmpeg you would go to where your files are and type
"C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67\Desktop\tools\ffmpeg.exe" -r 25 -f h264 -i x.264 -f ac3 -i x.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob x.vob
best to put this in a text batch file to make it easy to edit

where x.264 is your video file and x.ac3 is your audio, and x.vob is your output.

From what I am seeing so far is if mkv2avg transcodes the video is where the audio sync issues seem to come from (ie you hit yes in the popup at the beginning). it seems that ffmpeg when it uses mpeg2video it is messing up the audio probably due to it being out of sync to begin with in the mkv file and the mkv file is using headers to correct it.

best thing that i found for those problem files is just say no to the transcode question and it will not encode to mpeg2, but will still transcode the dts audio to ac3, but even that may not fix your issue. you still may have to transcode the file to mpeg2 and play around with the audio sync options in ffmpeg.

When I run this command it won't work...
I am replacing x.264 with xmen and x.ac3 with xmen.audio
but it will not run...please help!

thanks

[Quatre]

found a prog called "Super" http://www.erightsoft.net/S6Kg1.html
that seems to do everything including mkv for ps3.

for ps3 setting it seems to just make an .mp4 (h.264/avc video codec) other progs do mkv 2 mp4. i wonder if it mp4 takes longer to conver to from mkv then it would to go mkv to mpeg-2. i guess mpeg-2 is just larger file size but if its quicker conversion its worth it.

[Fishingham]

Well there are several ways of doing this. Either use Besweet with or without belight or do it the easy way: Just use MeGui.


Thanks.
I tried the Besweet/Belight combination, but it was looking for some outside dll file I didn't have. I'll give MeGui a shot.

[jamos]

When I run this command it won't work...
I am replacing x.264 with xmen and x.ac3 with xmen.audio
but it will not run...please help!

thanks

what is your error? file not found? if so make sure your path to ffmpeg.exe is correct. also save it in a .bat file in the same directory as your video and audio streams. call it ffm.bat or something and run it.

[jamos]

found a prog called "Super" http://www.erightsoft.net/S6Kg1.html
that seems to do everything including mkv for ps3.

for ps3 setting it seems to just make an .mp4 (h.264/avc video codec) other progs do mkv 2 mp4. i wonder if it mp4 takes longer to conver to from mkv then it would to go mkv to mpeg-2. i guess mpeg-2 is just larger file size but if its quicker conversion its worth it.


but you lose the ac3 playback as the ps3 doesnt support ac3 in mp4 files from everything ive heard. hence the reason why 3r wrote this program (plus to save time and perserve the original quality of video and audio by just remuxing).

[jamos]

3r I found that this command line seems to sync up audio from out of sync source mks when using ffmpeg, you may want to play around with it. Seems to fix my issue with a mks that is out of sync after it is transcoded with ffmpeg.


use command line option in the output audio area ffmpeg when transcoding.
-copyts

[georgem67]

C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67\Desktop\tools\ffmpeg
-r 25 -f h264 -i xmen.264 -f ac3 -i xmen.audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob xmen.vob


deblock .DV.. use strong deblock filter for damaged MBs
-pred <int> E.V.. prediction method
left E.V..
plane E.V..
median E.V..
-aspect <rational> E.V.. sample aspect ratio
-debug <flags> EDVAS print specific debug info
pict .DV.. picture info
rc E.V.. rate control
bitstream .DV..
mb_type .DV.. macroblock (MB) type
qp .DV.. per-block quantization parameter (QP)
mv .DV.. motion vector
dct_coeff .DV..
skip .DV..
startcode .DV..
pts .DV..
er .DV.. error resilience
mmco .DV.. memory management control operations (H.264)
bugs .DV..
vis_qp .DV.. visualize quantization parameter (QP), lower QP
are tinted greener
vis_mb_type .DV.. visualize block types
-vismv <int> .DV.. visualize motion vectors (MVs)
pf .DV.. forward predicted MVs of P-frames
bf .DV.. forward predicted MVs of B-frames
bb .DV.. backward predicted MVs of B-frames
-mb_qmin <int> E.V.. obsolete, use qmin
-mb_qmax <int> E.V.. obsolete, use qmax
-cmp <int> E.V.. full pel me compare function
sad E.V.. sum of absolute differences, fast (default)
sse E.V.. sum of squared errors
satd E.V.. sum of absolute Hadamard transformed difference
s
dct E.V.. sum of absolute DCT transformed differences
psnr E.V.. sum of squared quantization errors (avoid, low
quality)
bit E.V.. number of bits needed for the block
rd E.V.. rate distortion optimal, slow
zero E.V.. 0
vsad E.V.. sum of absolute vertical differences
vsse E.V.. sum of squared vertical differences
nsse E.V.. noise preserving sum of squared differences
w53 E.V.. 5/3 wavelet, only used in snow
w97 E.V.. 9/7 wavelet, only used in snow
dctmax E.V..
chroma E.V..
-subcmp <int> E.V.. sub pel me compare function
sad E.V.. sum of absolute differences, fast (default)
sse E.V.. sum of squared errors
satd E.V.. sum of absolute Hadamard transformed difference
s
dct E.V.. sum of absolute DCT transformed differences
psnr E.V.. sum of squared quantization errors (avoid, low
quality)
bit E.V.. number of bits needed for the block
rd E.V.. rate distortion optimal, slow
zero E.V.. 0
vsad E.V.. sum of absolute vertical differences
vsse E.V.. sum of squared vertical differences
nsse E.V.. noise preserving sum of squared differences
w53 E.V.. 5/3 wavelet, only used in snow
w97 E.V.. 9/7 wavelet, only used in snow
dctmax E.V..
chroma E.V..
-mbcmp <int> E.V.. macroblock compare function
sad E.V.. sum of absolute differences, fast (default)
sse E.V.. sum of squared errors
satd E.V.. sum of absolute Hadamard transformed difference
s
dct E.V.. sum of absolute DCT transformed differences
psnr E.V.. sum of squared quantization errors (avoid, low
quality)
bit E.V.. number of bits needed for the block
rd E.V.. rate distortion optimal, slow
zero E.V.. 0
vsad E.V.. sum of absolute vertical differences
vsse E.V.. sum of squared vertical differences
nsse E.V.. noise preserving sum of squared differences
w53 E.V.. 5/3 wavelet, only used in snow
w97 E.V.. 9/7 wavelet, only used in snow
dctmax E.V..
chroma E.V..
-ildctcmp <int> E.V.. interlaced dct compare function
sad E.V.. sum of absolute differences, fast (default)
sse E.V.. sum of squared errors
satd E.V.. sum of absolute Hadamard transformed difference
s
dct E.V.. sum of absolute DCT transformed differences
psnr E.V.. sum of squared quantization errors (avoid, low
quality)
bit E.V.. number of bits needed for the block
rd E.V.. rate distortion optimal, slow
zero E.V.. 0
vsad E.V.. sum of absolute vertical differences
vsse E.V.. sum of squared vertical differences
nsse E.V.. noise preserving sum of squared differences
w53 E.V.. 5/3 wavelet, only used in snow
w97 E.V.. 9/7 wavelet, only used in snow
dctmax E.V..
chroma E.V..
-dia_size <int> E.V.. diamond type & size for motion estimation
-last_pred <int> E.V.. amount of motion predictors from the previous f
rame
-preme <int> E.V.. pre motion estimation
-precmp <int> E.V.. pre motion estimation compare function
sad E.V.. sum of absolute differences, fast (default)
sse E.V.. sum of squared errors
satd E.V.. sum of absolute Hadamard transformed difference
s
dct E.V.. sum of absolute DCT transformed differences
psnr E.V.. sum of squared quantization errors (avoid, low
quality)
bit E.V.. number of bits needed for the block
rd E.V.. rate distortion optimal, slow
zero E.V.. 0
vsad E.V.. sum of absolute vertical differences
vsse E.V.. sum of squared vertical differences
nsse E.V.. noise preserving sum of squared differences
w53 E.V.. 5/3 wavelet, only used in snow
w97 E.V.. 9/7 wavelet, only used in snow
dctmax E.V..
chroma E.V..
-pre_dia_size <int> E.V.. diamond type & size for motion estimation pre-p
ass
-subq <int> E.V.. sub pel motion estimation quality
-me_range <int> E.V.. limit motion vectors range (1023 for DivX playe
r)
-ibias <int> E.V.. intra quant bias
-pbias <int> E.V.. inter quant bias
-coder <int> E.V..
vlc E.V.. variable length coder / huffman coder
ac E.V.. arithmetic coder
raw E.V.. raw (no encoding)
rle E.V.. run-length coder
deflate E.V.. deflate-based coder
-context <int> E.V.. context model
-mbd <int> E.V.. macroblock decision algorithm (high quality mod
e)
simple E.V.. use mbcmp (default)
bits E.V.. use fewest bits
rd E.V.. use best rate distortion
-sc_threshold <int> E.V.. scene change threshold
-lmin <int> E.V.. min lagrange factor (VBR)
-lmax <int> E.V.. max lagrange factor (VBR)
-nr <int> E.V.. noise reduction
-rc_init_occupancy <int> E.V.. number of bits which should be loaded into the
rc buffer before decoding starts
-inter_threshold <int> E.V..
-flags2 <flags> EDVA.
fast E.V.. allow non spec compliant speedup tricks
sgop E.V.. strictly enforce gop size
noout E.V.. skip bitstream encoding
local_header E.V.. place global headers at every keyframe instead
of in extradata
bpyramid E.V.. allows B-frames to be used as references for pr
edicting
wpred E.V.. weighted biprediction for b-frames (H.264)
mixed_refs E.V.. one reference per partition, as opposed to one
reference per macroblock
dct8x8 E.V.. high profile 8x8 transform (H.264)
fastpskip E.V.. fast pskip (H.264)
aud E.V.. access unit delimiters (H.264)
brdo E.V.. b-frame rate-distortion optimization
skiprd E.V.. RD optimal MB level residual skipping
ivlc E.V.. intra vlc table
drop_frame_timecode E.V..
non_linear_q E.V.. use non linear quantizer
-error <int> E.V..
-antialias <int> .DV.. MP3 antialias algorithm
auto .DV..
fastint .DV..
int .DV..
float .DV..
-qns <int> E.V.. quantizer noise shaping
-threads <int> EDV..
-mb_threshold <int> E.V.. macroblock threshold
-dc <int> E.V.. intra_dc_precision
-nssew <int> E.V.. nsse weight
-skip_top <int> .DV.. number of macroblock rows at the top which are
skipped
-skip_bottom <int> .DV.. number of macroblock rows at the bottom which a
re skipped
-profile <int> E.VA.
unknown E.VA.
aac_main E..A.
aac_low E..A.
aac_ssr E..A.
aac_ltp E..A.
-level <int> E.VA.
unknown E.VA.
-lowres <int> .DV.. decode at 1= 1/2, 2=1/4, 3=1/8 resolutions
-skip_threshold <int> E.V.. frame skip threshold
-skip_factor <int> E.V.. frame skip factor
-skip_exp <int> E.V.. frame skip exponent
-skipcmp <int> E.V.. frame skip compare function
sad E.V.. sum of absolute differences, fast (default)
sse E.V.. sum of squared errors
satd E.V.. sum of absolute Hadamard transformed difference
s
dct E.V.. sum of absolute DCT transformed differences
psnr E.V.. sum of squared quantization errors (avoid, low
quality)
bit E.V.. number of bits needed for the block
rd E.V.. rate distortion optimal, slow
zero E.V.. 0
vsad E.V.. sum of absolute vertical differences
vsse E.V.. sum of squared vertical differences
nsse E.V.. noise preserving sum of squared differences
w53 E.V.. 5/3 wavelet, only used in snow
w97 E.V.. 9/7 wavelet, only used in snow
dctmax E.V..
chroma E.V..
-border_mask <float> E.V.. increases the quantizer for macroblocks close t
o borders
-mblmin <int> E.V.. min macroblock lagrange factor (VBR)
-mblmax <int> E.V.. max macroblock lagrange factor (VBR)
-mepc <int> E.V.. motion estimation bitrate penalty compensation
(1.0 = 256)
-bidir_refine <int> E.V.. refine the two motion vectors used in bidirecti
onal macroblocks
-brd_scale <int> E.V.. downscales frames for dynamic B-frame decision
-crf <float> E.V.. enables constant quality mode, and selects the
quality (x264)
-cqp <int> E.V.. constant quantization parameter rate control me
thod
-keyint_min <int> E.V.. minimum interval between IDR-frames (x264)
-refs <int> E.V.. reference frames to consider for motion compens
ation (Snow)
-chromaoffset <int> E.V.. chroma qp offset from luma
-bframebias <int> E.V.. influences how often B-frames are used
-trellis <int> E.VA. rate-distortion optimal quantization
-directpred <int> E.V.. direct mv prediction mode - 0 (none), 1 (spatia
l), 2 (temporal)
-complexityblur <float> E.V.. reduce fluctuations in qp (before curve compres
sion)
-deblockalpha <int> E.V.. in-loop deblocking filter alphac0 parameter
-deblockbeta <int> E.V.. in-loop deblocking filter beta parameter
-partitions <flags> E.V.. macroblock subpartition sizes to consider
parti4x4 E.V..
parti8x8 E.V..
partp4x4 E.V..
partp8x8 E.V..
partb8x8 E.V..
-sc_factor <int> E.V.. multiplied by qscale for each frame and added t
o scene_change_score
-mv0_threshold <int> E.V..
-b_sensitivity <int> E.V.. adjusts sensitivity of b_frame_strategy 1
-compression_level <int> E.VA.
-use_lpc <int> E..A. sets whether to use LPC mode (FLAC)
-lpc_coeff_precision <int> E..A. LPC coefficient precision (FLAC)
-min_prediction_order <int> E..A.
-max_prediction_order <int> E..A.
-prediction_order_method <int> E..A. search method for selecting prediction or
der
-min_partition_order <int> E..A.
-max_partition_order <int> E..A.
-timecode_frame_start <int> E.V.. GOP timecode frame start number, in non drop
frame format
-request_channels <int> .D.A. set desired number of audio channels
AVFormatContext AVOptions:
-probesize <int> .D...
-muxrate <int> E.... set mux rate
-packetsize <int> E.... set packet size
-fflags <flags> ED...
ignidx .D... ignore index
genpts .D... generate pts
-track <int> E.... set the track number
-year <int> E.... set the year
-analyzeduration <int> .D... how many microseconds are analyzed to estimate
duration
SWScaler AVOptions:
-sws_flags <flags> E.V.. scaler/cpu flags
fast_bilinear E.V.. fast bilinear
bilinear E.V.. bilinear
bicubic E.V.. bicubic
experimental E.V.. experimental
neighbor E.V.. nearest neighbor
area E.V.. averaging area
bicublin E.V.. luma bicubic, chroma bilinear
gauss E.V.. gaussian
sinc E.V.. sinc
lanczos E.V.. lanczos
spline E.V.. natural bicubic spline
print_info E.V.. print info
accurate_rnd E.V.. accurate rounding
mmx E.V.. MMX SIMD acceleration
mmx2 E.V.. MMX2 SIMD acceleration
3dnow E.V.. 3DNOW SIMD acceleration
altivec E.V.. AltiVec SIMD acceleration
bfin E.V.. Blackfin SIMD acceleration
full_chroma_int E.V.. full chroma interpolation
full_chroma_inp E.V.. full chroma input

C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67>-r 25 -f h264 -i xmen.264 -f ac3 -i xmen.audio.a
c3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob xmen.vob
'-r' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

[Quatre]

but you lose the ac3 playback as the ps3 doesnt support ac3 in mp4 files from everything ive heard. hence the reason why 3r wrote this program (plus to save time and perserve the original quality of video and audio by just remuxing).

i thought mp4 could now have 5.1 audio on ps3 now? otherwise mpeg-2 definately does. its just a toss up whether you want the quick remux and equivalent (to the orig mkv) file size at the sacrifice of no ff/rw or the longer transcode to mpeg-2 and 50% larger file size with the benefit of full ff/rw controls.

personally as i've said I need the resume, ff/rw etc. so i'm hoping that mkv2vob future revision gives you teh option to force transcode to mpeg-2.

meantime "Super" seems like a great program. for changing most any video file into any other including a ps3 mode (which does mp4 auto) and still can do the mkv 2 vob or mkv 2 mpeg-2.

i was forced to look for an alternative when mkv2vob wouldn't accept any of the mkv's i was trying for a certain series due to the error code mentioned in previous post of mine and GotSent made a .mpg avc file (using the mux to vob option) that froze up or went super slow 5-6 minutes into the resulting file.

i wanted something that i could do mkv 2 mpeg-2 and Super can do that plus mkv 2 mp4 and a whole lot more.

i'm still trying to figure out what the quickest conversion is from mkv to something tht will play on ps3 or 360 with full ff/rw control.

right now i believe that is mpeg-2 on ps3 as i think mkv 2 mp4 takes longer.

[jamos]

i thought mp4 could now have 5.1 audio on ps3 now? otherwise mpeg-2 definately does. its just a toss up whether you want the quick remux and equivalent (to the orig mkv) file size at the sacrifice of no ff/rw or the longer transcode to mpeg-2 and 50% larger file size with the benefit of full ff/rw controls.

personally as i've said I need the resume, ff/rw etc. so i'm hoping that mkv2vob future revision gives you teh option to force transcode to mpeg-2.

meantime "Super" seems like a great program. for changing most any video file into any other including a ps3 mode (which does mp4 auto) and still can do the mkv 2 vob or mkv 2 mpeg-2.

i was forced to look for an alternative when mkv2vob wouldn't accept any of the mkv's i was trying for a certain series due to the error code mentioned in previous post of mine and GotSent made a .mpg avc file (using the mux to vob option) that froze up or went super slow 5-6 minutes into the resulting file.

i wanted something that i could do mkv 2 mpeg-2 and Super can do that plus mkv 2 mp4 and a whole lot more.

i'm still trying to figure out what the quickest conversion is from mkv to something tht will play on ps3 or 360 with full ff/rw control.

right now i believe that is mpeg-2 on ps3 as i think mkv 2 mp4 takes longer.

try out mp4 with ac3 on the ps3 i am curious if it works now..would be a good alternative to mpeg2.

[jamos]

C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67\Desktop\tools\ffmpeg
-r 25 -f h264 -i xmen.264 -f ac3 -i xmen.audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob xmen.vob




C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67>-r 25 -f h264 -i xmen.264 -f ac3 -i xmen.audio.a
c3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob xmen.vob
'-r' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

You must put " quotes around the path name if it has spaces in it man. Like my example.

"C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67\Desktop\tools\ffmpeg.exe" -r 25 -f h264 -i xmen.264 -f ac3 -i xmen.audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob xmen.vob

[Quatre]

nope looks like for mp4 its only AAC 2ch (no 5.1 option even in the "Super" prog for mp4 so its not a ps3 problem but just mp4 from mkv can only be done 2ch i guess?), so i wont be selecting mp4 as a choice anymore. I guess mpeg-2 is the best if you want mkv on ps3 with full ff/rw controls and 5.1 sound. i dont know why i bothered doing the mp4. I guess cus in 'Super', if you select ps3 as output file it automatically does mp4. why dont they offer mpeg-2 as a ps3 choice? it transcodes just as quick if not quicker I believe, it has the full ff/rw controls in ps3, and the benefit over mp4 of 5.1 sound with the one catch of the larger file size.

I wonder what other file formats work on ps3 that Sound can do (cus it can output to almost any video file type) and if there are any other choices that work, which is the fasted transcode with ff/rw controls and 5.1 sound. It probably is still mpeg-2 as the best bet but just curious.

[fonkee1]

Quatre,

I have used Super for everything else but the PS3. I didn't know it worked for it. Thanks for the info. Have you had success with 1080p mkv to MPEG-2 files? Mkv2VOB is an awesome program, but i still get out of sync Audio with 1080P files. I tried downconverting to 720p with AutoMKV and Ripbot264 and have had no success. AutoMKV took like a whole day for one movie to process the video, then it got to the audio portion and just looked at me dumb, lol. Ripbot just always hangs when it gets to H264.info part. I'll try Super:goodpost:

[georgem67]

You must put " quotes around the path name if it has spaces in it man. Like my example.

"C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67\Desktop\tools\ffmpeg.exe" -r 25 -f h264 -i xmen.264 -f ac3 -i xmen.audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob xmen.vob

This is what I get now

C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67>Desktop\tools\ffmpeg.exe" -r 25 -f h264 -i xmen.
264 -f ac3 -i xmen.audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob xmen.vob
'Desktop\tools\ffmpeg.exe" -r 25 -f h264 -i xmen.264 -f ac3 -i xmen.audio.ac3 -v
codec copy -acodec copy -f vob xmen.vob' is not recognized as an internal or ext
ernal command,
operable program or batch file.

How do I run this command? I am using windows command from accessories but is there another way...as I cannot put the quotes from the start?....help!!!

[jamos]

This is what I get now

C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67>Desktop\tools\ffmpeg.exe" -r 25 -f h264 -i xmen.
264 -f ac3 -i xmen.audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob xmen.vob
'Desktop\tools\ffmpeg.exe" -r 25 -f h264 -i xmen.264 -f ac3 -i xmen.audio.ac3 -v
codec copy -acodec copy -f vob xmen.vob' is not recognized as an internal or ext
ernal command,
operable program or batch file.

How do I run this command? I am using windows command from accessories but is there another way...as I cannot put the quotes from the start?....help!!!


dude your still not enclosing the path withen double quotes you only have a end quote you need to enclose the full path of the executable withen quotes like this but use your path "c:\ffmpeg\ffmpeg.exe"

then put the rest of your parameters after it.

"C:\Documents and Settings\Geo67\Desktop\tools\ffmpeg.exe" -r 25 -f h264 -i xmen.264 -f ac3 -i xmen.audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob xmen.vob

I do not want to hijack this thread please start another thread titled ffmpeg command line help if you need more help. sorry 3r..

[Quatre]

Quatre,

I have used Super for everything else but the PS3. I didn't know it worked for it. Thanks for the info. Have you had success with 1080p mkv to MPEG-2 files? Mkv2VOB is an awesome program, but i still get out of sync Audio with 1080P files. I tried downconverting to 720p with AutoMKV and Ripbot264 and have had no success. AutoMKV took like a whole day for one movie to process the video, then it got to the audio portion and just looked at me dumb, lol. Ripbot just always hangs when it gets to H264.info part. I'll try Super:goodpost:

ah glad to see someone else knew of and used Super. seems like a great prog but hadn't heard much about it. Yeah it has a ps3 output option but as I said that just does an mp4 with h.264/avc video codec. and at least from mkv, the only mp4 sound options are 2ch.

I dont know why they dont give you a couple of choices for ps3 playback, do they not realize that mpeg-2 plays on ps3 and has 5.1 (6ch) audio? the only drawback I thought was that mpeg-2 would be a considerably larger file and it is somewhat but I guess it depends on the bitrate, I just set the bitrate to as close to what the original mkv's was (double click your mkv after dragging it in there to see its specs) which is very useful. can't type in an exact bitrate but the drop down list will have something close to what the orig mkv bitrate was.

you choose ffmepg or MEncoder as the decoder and ffmpeg allows you to check DirectShow which supposedly can speed up the encode and increase quality but depends on a few variables. I just had a few that didnt work with DirectShow checked, you could see right away it just made a small file and stopped, but unchecking it makes an mpeg-2 fine.

Crazy how for one series, the only x264 720p mkv for each ep were mostly all different, but Super seems to work on them all. Can queue up a few at a time but since they seem to have diff bitrates i end up doing one at at time.

So far so good with Super on these particular mkv files after mkv2vob and GotSent didn't work.

I haven't dont many 1080p x264, but the ones I did mkv2vob seemed to transcode them to mpeg-2 perfectly with in sync audio and full ff/rw controls, with just the drawback of taking a little while (still much much less time then encoding mkv to wmv) and a larger file size (basically double).

I'm really not a fan of .vob avc now from mkv with no ff/rw controls so will prob only use mkv2vob for the 1080p mkv it transcodes, but at that point its prob best for me to just use Super to make mpeg-2.

But for some 720p mkv that are larger then just a tv ep, it may be tempting to do the quick remux to vob.

Just a shame Super uses mp4 with the 2ch audio for the ps3 output for ppl that dont know that mpeg-2 works perfect on ps3. I"m still wondering what other formats that mkv can be converted to and will play on ps3 but maybe thats it.

Yeah I didnt have much success with ripbot264 and i think i have automkv but dont use. Nothing worse then wasting time for it not to work which happens a lot with ps3 especially when it looks like the file works only to find it freezes up 5 min in or stops 10 min in.

I"m pretty impressed with Super to make mpeg-2 from mkv, simple enough yet enough settings to match it up with the original mkv which it lets you see all the specs of so there is no mystery.

i know i did 2hr 1080p mkv transcode to mpeg-2 using mkv2vob and it was only like 2-3 hrs and using Super on these 1hr eps also to mpeg-2 is like 45 min so no need to do anything that takes a whole day as you mentioned. Though I know encoding mkv to wmv can take 10-24hrs+ like that.

I want quick but i also want to retain quality and have ff/rw controls. so for mkv playback on ps3, mpeg-2 seems to be the way to go for me.

[fredward]

Is anyone having issues with DTS audio error converting to AC3 from the MKV file? I keep getting an error and I also downloaded the older versions too and still the same problem.

[Quatre]

well in the ongoing update to get the Dexter season one mkv eps to play on ps3 things are not so good. as mentioned mkv2vob didnt accept the files at all to mux or transcode. GotSent makes a muxed vob (GS makes a .mpg extension) which seems like it works but freezes/slows up 5-6 min in.

Super's ps3 setting just makes an mp4 which works but has 2ch audio and the one i watched didn't look great quality and the audio went out of sync towards the end. When I try to make an mpeg-2 using Super it seems to make one ok that works on pc but not ps3.

I guess thats why mkv2vob wouldn;t mux it or transcode it, these mkv files have something funky with them, but there are prob others like it.

seems ps3 is just picky and with some mkv the only thing tht will work for ps3 is the convert to mp4 which isn't that ideal.


here are the details of the mpeg-2 file converted from mkv using Super that shows up as corrupted on ps3 and with soem strange resoltion even those these specs clearly show its 1280x720

Format : MPEG-2 Program
Format/Family : MPEG-2
File size : 1.16 GiB
PlayTime : 51mn 1s
Bit rate : 3269 Kbps

Video #0
Codec : MPEG-2 Video
Codec profile : Main@Main
Codec settings/Matrix : Standard
PlayTime : 51mn 608ms
Bit rate : 2976 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Width : 1280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Aspect ratio : 1.000
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Chroma : 4:2:0
Interlacement : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.135

Audio #0
Codec : AC3
PlayTime : 51mn 1s
Bit rate : 256 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
ChannelPositions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, Subwoofer


^
what in the above doesnt the ps3 like?

and here is the one ep that actually worked in ps3 after transcoding to mpeg-2 (using mkv2vob when auto detect determined it needed to transcode)


Format : MPEG-2 Program
Format/Family : MPEG-2
File size : 2.53 GiB
PlayTime : 53mn 46s
Bit rate : 6747 Kbps

Video #0
Codec : MPEG-2 Video
Codec profile : Main@High-1440
Codec settings/Matrix : Standard
PlayTime : 53mn 46s
Bit rate : 6233 Kbps
Bit rate mode : VBR
Width : 1280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Aspect ratio : 1.000
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Chroma : 4:2:0
Interlacement : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.282

Audio #0
Codec : AC3
PlayTime : 53mn 46s
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
ChannelPositions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, Subwoofer



so a much higher bitrate on the one that worked (and larger file size)
Codec profile : Main@High-1440 instead of Main@Main (for the non working one)

Bit rate mode : VBR instead of CBR on the non working one
and
Bit rate : 384 Kbps instead of 256 on the non working one but i dont thin the audio matters as much.

so it must need to be Code profile Main@High-1440 and VBR Bit rate mode. those are the main 2 things that teh working on ps3 mpeg-2 has that the other non working doesnt.

now how do i get Super to make it Main@High-1440 for the Codec profile and VBR Bit rate mode using Super?


when i make an mpeg-2 in Super from the mkv, it shows up in ps3 as some weird res like 560x2048 and doesnt play. in Super it shows as 1280x720 though.

i dunno i guess there is a reason mkv2vob couldn't mux these certain mkv to vob or transcode to mpeg-2. the only option on these certain ones (though i'm not sure what it is about them) is to conver to mp4.

[georgem67]

Thanks for all your help jamos but there is definitely a blockage here at my end. ..sorry

ffmpeg flashing by very fast!! Help

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1084924#post1084924

Cheers

[georgem67]

Sin City mkv 4.37gb...video 23.976fps & audio perfectly in sync.
Saying yes to mpeg2 with mkv2vob is the only way to get a playable video yet the file is almost a 9gb vob...excellent quality though. However not fitting on 2 dvd's or transferable to Fat32 ext. hdd, I split the mkv to 3 parts. The 1st part plays great but the second part is out of sync with audio!! Someone here mentioned file splitter on large vobs...but the program creates 001 files etc.( only of use for storage perhaps )...is there any other working method to split the Vob or a more reliable way to split the mkv rather than MKmerge global options?
Thanks

[Quatre]

there has to be a better way to get these Dexter season 1 mkv's to play on ps3. nothing has worked except encoding to mp4 using Super which takes forever. mp4 has 2 ch audio and the audio is a bit out of sync, enough to annoy me especially being how long it took. I can't believe a whole series of eps couldn't be muxed to vob or the quicker transcode to mpeg-2.

I mine as well encode to wmv at this point cus i'm not impressed with mp4 and it takes almost as long.

[tot31]

there has to be a better way to get these Dexter season 1 mkv's to play on ps3. nothing has worked except encoding to mp4 using Super which takes forever. mp4 has 2 ch audio and the audio is a bit out of sync, enough to annoy me especially being how long it took. I can't believe a whole series of eps couldn't be muxed to vob or the quicker transcode to mpeg-2.

I mine as well encode to wmv at this point cus i'm not impressed with mp4 and it takes almost as long.

Why don't you try this method here http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=133563. I have a great succes with this.

[B4tm4n]

nope looks like for mp4 its only AAC 2ch (no 5.1 option even in the "Super" prog for mp4 so its not a ps3 problem but just mp4 from mkv can only be done 2ch i guess?), so i wont be selecting mp4 as a choice anymore. I guess mpeg-2 is the best if you want mkv on ps3 with full ff/rw controls and 5.1 sound. i dont know why i bothered doing the mp4. I guess cus in 'Super', if you select ps3 as output file it automatically does mp4. why dont they offer mpeg-2 as a ps3 choice? it transcodes just as quick if not quicker I believe, it has the full ff/rw controls in ps3, and the benefit over mp4 of 5.1 sound with the one catch of the larger file size.

I wonder what other file formats work on ps3 that Sound can do (cus it can output to almost any video file type) and if there are any other choices that work, which is the fasted transcode with ff/rw controls and 5.1 sound. It probably is still mpeg-2 as the best bet but just curious.

You can do 5.1 aac I do it all the time on my Mac and it plays on the PS3.

You need mplayer on your system and faac, the first line converts the ac3 to a 5.1 wav then the second line converts the wav to a 5.1 aac.

mplayer audio.ac3 -vo null -ao pcm:nowaveheader -channels 6
faac -q 128 -I 3,6 -P -R 48000 -C 6 -X audiodump.pcm -o audio.aac --mpeg-vers 4

[3r1c]

Post the details of the mpeg2 created in mkv2vob that doesnt work.
Dont post anything created in super, i dont know anything about it and doesnt help.

[jamos]

Post the details of the mpeg2 created in mkv2vob that doesnt work.
Dont post anything created in super, i dont know anything about it and doesnt help.

3r if you use -copyts in ffmpeg when you transcode it should fix any audio sync issues person have with transcoding. also if you use -sameq in your video settings part for output you do not need to worry about buffer etc as it just copies the original settings when you transcode.


also can you put in a option to force recoding in your next version? I would love to just use your program rather than having to do this manually.

thanks!

[3r1c]

3r if you use -copyts in ffmpeg when you transcode it should fix any audio sync issues person have with transcoding. also if you use -sameq in your video settings part for output you do not need to worry about buffer etc as it just copies the original settings when you transcode.


also can you put in a option to force recoding in your next version? I would love to just use your program rather than having to do this manually.

thanks!

V1.4 10/Jan/2008
Removed confusing yes/no prompt.
Added auto/always/never transcoding option.
Added some options to prevent audio out of sync when transcoding.

[Quatre]

Post the details of the mpeg2 created in mkv2vob that doesnt work.
Dont post anything created in super, i dont know anything about it and doesnt help.

mkv2vob wont even attempt to make an mpeg-2 out of these mkv files I have. That was probably my first clue that its not going to work. mkv2vob gets the error and wont make a vob or mpeg-2.

I used other programs which let me make an mpeg-2 which works on the pc and looks like it works on ps3 but 5-6 minutes into it studder freezes to a super slow down halt, unwatchable.

Although at first I was annoyed that mkv2vob wouldn't do anything with these mkv'si have, but I appreciate mkv2vob not making an mpeg-2 that ultimately doesnt work on ps3. It must have detected something.

Shame I tried it a few times using other progs to realize it. Mp4 works but the problem is at least in super the only fps video option is 29.97 while the mkv is 23.976 (as most are). Super tells you to match the frame rate to the orig file if audio is out of sync but again there is no other frame rate option when making a ps3 compat mp4.

Maybe a third option for mkv2vob would be a choice to convert the mkv into an mp4? Might get a little more complicated but for one the more choices the better and for 2 in the case of this whole series of mkv I have, they can't be muxed to vob or transcoded into mpeg-2, so the only choice would be the mp4.

Ideally mkv2vob would tell you, yes this can be muxed to vob but give you the choice to convert it into an mpeg-2 or mp4 (your choice) anyway. Again some like myself might not mind the larger file size and extra time of converting into an mpeg-2 to gain ff/rw controls and maintain 5.1 audio. Mp4 seems to take longer then the transcode to mpeg-2 (believe it or not and you would think it would be the other way around since mpeg-2 comes out so large) and while like mpeg-2 it doess seem to have the full ff/rw control ability in ps3 it is limited to 2ch audio, so I can't really see anyone wanting to do mp4 unless as in the case of a bunch of these files I have which mkv2vob can't make a vob or mpeg-2 out of it and other progs waste time making an ultimately non working mpeg-2.

So my request for mkv2vob would be as before the option to force mpeg-2 transcode even if the file can be muxed to vob, and in addition if mkv2vob can't mux to vob or transcode to mpeg-2, having the ability to convert to mp4 as a last resort back up plan should basically ensure that this prog will make a working ps3 video file out of any mkv one way or another.

[Quatre]

V1.4 10/Jan/2008
Removed confusing yes/no prompt.
Added auto/always/never transcoding option.
Added some options to prevent audio out of sync when transcoding.

oh sweet new version. so no yes no prompt? so the auto/always/never option replaces that I guess. So auto will only transcode to mpeg-2 if it can't be muxed to vob I assume. Always, will force transcode to mpeg-2 either way and never wont transcode even if the file can't be muxed to vob. The latter would then just do nothing but I guess for ppl that only want to do the quick mux but if it has to do the lengthier transcode they dont want to bother. Though they could just stop it when they see it couldn't mux and had to transcode I guess its a nice option.

But for all these files I have that mkv2vob can't seem to mux to vob or transcode to mpeg-2, I'll probably still be out of luck.

I'll give it a try though, and thanks to 3r for making such a great program, being proactive with its users and making updates/improvements. Thanks to everyones input, pointers, advice etc. and sorry for my frequent and sometimes long posts.

edit:
yep still can't do anything with these mkv I have. I get the same error.

"Unsupported Video Codec: V_MS/VFW/FOURCC"

and though i think someone breifly commented on that error, I still dont know what it means and more importantly what I can then do with these type x264 mkv (for ps3 or 360 playback) besides converting them to mp4.

[3r1c]

there is a way to convert to mp4 without transcoding (very fast) but i have been very busy lately and it will take a while to do it.

but are you sure there is nothing wrong with your mkv files?
if it wont work even converted to mpeg2 then i would say your mkvs are bad.

[Quatre]

there is a way to convert to mp4 without transcoding (very fast) but i have been very busy lately and it will take a while to do it.

but are you sure there is nothing wrong with your mkv files?
if it wont work even converted to mpeg2 then i would say your mkvs are bad.

yes I thought i've heard of of converting mkv to mp4 in a much faster way thats why i was surprised RipBot264 and Super take so long to do it.

Is there something wrong with my mkv files? Well they are the only x264 mkv or hd file for that matter there is of each ep of this series, yet all are different and by a few diff authors/groups.

What do you mean if it wont work as mpeg-2? mkv2vob wont even attempt to do it so yeah that is a sign these or "off" mkv but i wouldn't say bad, they are just diff in some way. I didnt make them and am just dealing with what I have to work with. Yes other progs make a non working mpeg-2 which could be further sign its a bad mkv or that i'm setting something wrong when making the mpeg-2 but i think they are just not so great files.

again either way they are all i have to work with and the only thing i've found to work is mp4, so yeah if you know a way to do it quicker let me and the thread know.

meantime I'll try and find out, but i'll prob have the rest of these eps encoded to wmv or mp4 by then or have gotten a hw media player that does x264 mkv.

Popcorn hour has a 2 month waiting list though and the tvix 6500 is delayed so..... i'm stuck with ps3 for now and remuxing/converting mkv to something that works.

[tot31]

thanks 3r1c for another great release....

[fredward]

Has anyone had any luck transcoding mkv files with DTS Audio to AC3?

[tot31]

Has anyone had any luck transcoding mkv files with DTS Audio to AC3?

I have done a few mkvs with DTS to AC3 without any problems with mkv2vob 1.3.1

[jamos]

great 3r now I can just use your program instead of messing with command lines.

thanks for putting in the always option.
:thanks:

[fredward]

I have done a few mkvs with DTS to AC3 without any problems with mkv2vob 1.3.1

I've done that version and I still get the Error.

[Quatre]

yeah I get the "Unsupported Video Codec: V_MS/VFW/FOURCC" error with the new version too.

[nsrafk]

er1c, do oyu have any clue when you'll implent some function to let mkv2vob being able to fix the subtitle issue?

I know its quite hard to get it working, but ive managed to get subtitles shown on my ps3 when transcoding with tversity and stuff, so i guess its not totally impossible.

But i wont keep doing this since the quality goes down the drain, inclusive the 5.1 audio, hehe.

I'd be the happiest man alive, when mkv2vob supports subtitle stuff =)

Anyways, thanks for a great app, and without this, my ps3 would be useless atm lol :)

[tot31]

Ok just tested using the latest ver 1.4 with 1.52GB mkv (h264/AC3) file, transcoded into mpeg2 with great success and the final size is 4.03GB.

[sauroneru]

I'm getting a pcrecpp.dll not found error with the new version.

[mrdjj]

Thank you 3r1c for a really great program! :) Also I really would like to have support for subtitles. Is it possible?

[3r1c]

V1.4.1 10/Jan/2008
Fixed V_MS/VFW/FOURCC error.
Added missing file pcrecpp.dll

[pjclay27]

I have had 50% success on mkv to mp4 with Gotsent. I've never tried with Super. Maybe 3r1c can add it to his program that will make the conversion work. It is a lot faster conversion. Thanks for the updates 3r1c.

[mrdjj]

unsupported Audio Codec: A_AAC when trying to convert Race.of.Champions.2007.720p.HDTV.x264.aaC-PpRch.mkv with V1.4.1

[SeeMoreDigital]

unsupported Audio Codec: A_AAC when trying to convert Race.of.Champions.2007.720p.HDTV.x264.aaC-PpRch.mkv with V1.4.1Made this file yourself did you?

[mrdjj]

no, find it on [removed]

[3r1c]

Its x264 + aac so just remux to mp4 with Yamb, shouldnt need recompress.

[mrdjj]

Thx, i will try Yamb.

[Quatre]

V1.4.1 10/Jan/2008
Fixed V_MS/VFW/FOURCC error.
Added missing file pcrecpp.dll

what? another new version and fixes this error that all my mkv were getting?! wow! omg, i think its working on these now with that error that previously didnt, 3r you are the greatest.

I chose auto so will have to see the result, i was curious as to if it would need the transcode or not and then if it doesn't i may end up forcing the transcode anyway.

looks like its working but I will report back for sure if noone else has tried using latest version on an mkv with the V_MS/VFW/FOURCC error.

[Quatre]

I have had 50% success on mkv to mp4 with Gotsent. I've never tried with Super. Maybe 3r1c can add it to his program that will make the conversion work. It is a lot faster conversion. Thanks for the updates 3r1c.

i've had mixed results with GotSent also, while Super has been 100% with making mp4 from mkv and before 3r's latest version of mkv2vob was the only resort i could find in the time being. the audio was sometimes out of sync on the mp4 from mkv using Super though and it took awhile.

I did suggest adding an option to conver to mp4 but now its really not needed that he fixed the error that wouldn't let mkv2vob mux to vob or transcode to mpeg-2. the mp4 conversion seemed to take just as long or longer then mpeg-2 so i'm not so sure about your statment.

is that what you meant that mkv to mp4 conversion ws quicker then to mpeg-2? because i think its opposite. only reason i could see someone wanting mp4 is for the smaller file size then mpeg-2 and retaining the ff/rw controls just like mpeg-2. But mp4 has only 2ch audio so its no good to many.

[Quatre]

Its x264 + aac so just remux to mp4 with Yamb, shouldnt need recompress.

hm Yamb, didnt' think to try that for mp4 instead of Super when mkv2vob can't do anythign with it. though now with new version doen't seem like many mkv still stumps mkv2vob.

[Quatre]

V1.4.1 10/Jan/2008
Fixed V_MS/VFW/FOURCC error.
Added missing file pcrecpp.dll

thanks again 3r for a great program and your help and pro activeness with it. Sony has you to thank for many of us (as at leat one other mentioned) right now getting any use out of our otherwise dusty ps3's, heh. (if you dont understand just know that ppl with modded 360's have no use for ps3 games and usually not for bluray either) so 3r has essentially helped given our ps3's a purpose.

:thanks:


p.s.
now if someone can just get mkv's working directly on the ps3, then sony should be paying that person for what will result in the sale of a good # of new ps3. but this prog makes the ps3 at the very least a good hold over until the popcorn hour is more available or the Tvix 6500 come sout.

[pjclay27]

I understand about the mp4 only having 2ch audio. I enjoyed it more for the ability to keep it on one DVD-R. I know mkv2vob is meant for streaming but I prefer burning on discs. If I choose the option to never transcode on the new version of mkv2vob, will it automatically mux to vob and is it guaranteed to work on PS3? I'm not concerned with the ff/rr controls.

[Quatre]

ok so it worked on the mkv with the FOURCC error on prior versions. But strangely it took a little longer then usual mux to vob but i knew it was too quick to be transcoded to mpeg-2 but yet the file size more then doubled (as if its mpeg-2) 1.07gb mkv to a 2.63GB .vob

will have to see what ps3 lables it as. i'm assuming AVC and that it wont have ff/rw

only thing i can think is its jus this type of mkv gets much larger when muxed to vob. and its just i wonder how long the transcode to mpeg-2 would take because if the vob file size is about the same then thats one more reason to just do the mpeg-2 for ff/rw

[tot31]

Did a mkv (h264/dts) 6.54GB file last night to mpeg2 file and final size is 6.40GB with ver 1.4.

[Quatre]

Did a mkv (h264/dts) 6.54GB file last night to mpeg2 file and final size is 6.40GB with ver 1.4.

wow, so it actually went down going from mkv to mpeg-2. crazy especially considering i had a vob more then double in size after the remux from mkv.

thats like opposite of how its suposed to be.:confused:

[Quatre]

I understand about the mp4 only having 2ch audio. I enjoyed it more for the ability to keep it on one DVD-R. I know mkv2vob is meant for streaming but I prefer burning on discs. If I choose the option to never transcode on the new version of mkv2vob, will it automatically mux to vob and is it guaranteed to work on PS3? I'm not concerned with the ff/rr controls.

its pretty much guaranteed to work as mkv2vob seems to just not do anything to the file if it can't make a file that works on ps3.

some mkv (supposedly 95% of 1080p mkv) can't be muxed to vob so you will be out of luck if you choose never transcode.

[pjclay27]

I try to stick with 720p mkv's. I will try a few without transcoding and burn on DVD-RW to see if they work.

Also, I am confused a little about the statement "its pretty much guaranteed to work as mkv2vob seems to just not do anything to the file if it can't make a file that works on ps3."

[Quatre]

ie. if you set it to auto and it makes a file, it most likely will work cus the prog is made for ps3 playback where as other programs aren't and could make a file that maybe even works on pc but wont on ps3.

[tot31]

wow, so it actually went down going from mkv to mpeg-2. crazy especially considering i had a vob more then double in size after the remux from mkv.

thats like opposite of how its suposed to be.:confused:

quatre, you should know that when transcoding from dts audio to ac3 audio the file will be smaller. the final mpeg2 has ac3 audio.

[Quatre]

ok thankyou. yeah i figured it was due to the audio.

[fredward]

Just wondering, how ius everyone getting the same file size on mpeg 2 from the original mkv? I have tried this on the new version and it is still double for me. What am I suppose to do?

[3r1c]

mpeg2 will be bigger then the mkv, because mpeg2 is not as efficient at compression as h264.

To try and get the same file size you would have very bad quality.

[tot31]

fredward, most of my mkv files (h264/ac3) will be almost double the size after converted to mpeg2/ac3.

I found out that a DTS-HD audio source can't be trancoded into ac3, I got "Error creating AC3 from WAV".

[Gameruk]

to 3r1c great program you done there m8 works a treat,just wondering with some mkv`s ive done have dts 1558 kb/s for sound would there be any chance if ya got add an option or get it to do ac3 sound at 640kb/s instead of 384,as it allways put it to 384kb/s if its dts.

[damanisjon]

has anyone tried remuxing from MKV to a playable AVI? now that the new ps3 update has come in?

[fredward]

Okay thanks for the response. One more thing, I notice that some mkv go out of sync. I have done everything I could on your program. Is the mkv corrupted maybe?

[shon.miles@gmail.com]

I am using 1.4.1 just posted in in an attempt to correct the issue I am having with a couple of mkv files, not matter which version I am using, they are always coming out way out of sync. They are 1080p files that are already in AC3, I was always choosing yes in versions prior to 1.4.1 and now choosing auto, and still way out of sync. If I play the mkv file on PC audio is fine.

I also was trying this trick here someone posted

ffmpeg.exe -r 23.976 -i "F:/video.mkv" -vcodec mpeg2video -sameq -acodec copy -f vob -copyts -y "f:/video.mpg"

but that changed the movie to squished 4:3 aspect ratio.

Is there anyway to deal with this out of sync audio, even command line if I have to, I have not been having problems with many files, just these few. I should mention they are x264 as well.

[3r1c]

do you have a sample file?

[jamos]

I am using 1.4.1 just posted in in an attempt to correct the issue I am having with a couple of mkv files, not matter which version I am using, they are always coming out way out of sync. They are 1080p files that are already in AC3, I was always choosing yes in versions prior to 1.4.1 and now choosing auto, and still way out of sync. If I play the mkv file on PC audio is fine.

I also was trying this trick here someone posted

ffmpeg.exe -r 23.976 -i "F:/video.mkv" -vcodec mpeg2video -sameq -acodec copy -f vob -copyts -y "f:/video.mpg"

but that changed the movie to squished 4:3 aspect ratio.

Is there anyway to deal with this out of sync audio, even command line if I have to, I have not been having problems with many files, just these few. I should mention they are x264 as well.


I posted that trick and it copies your original video format which it thinks is 4:3 which it may well be or it just may be a corrupt mkv to start with. also you dont need the -r command if you use that command line.

[jamos]

i've had mixed results with GotSent also, while Super has been 100% with making mp4 from mkv and before 3r's latest version of mkv2vob was the only resort i could find in the time being. the audio was sometimes out of sync on the mp4 from mkv using Super though and it took awhile.

I did suggest adding an option to conver to mp4 but now its really not needed that he fixed the error that wouldn't let mkv2vob mux to vob or transcode to mpeg-2. the mp4 conversion seemed to take just as long or longer then mpeg-2 so i'm not so sure about your statment.

is that what you meant that mkv to mp4 conversion ws quicker then to mpeg-2? because i think its opposite. only reason i could see someone wanting mp4 is for the smaller file size then mpeg-2 and retaining the ff/rw controls just like mpeg-2. But mp4 has only 2ch audio so its no good to many.

I thought mp4 has 5 channel aac?

[jamos]

wow, so it actually went down going from mkv to mpeg-2. crazy especially considering i had a vob more then double in size after the remux from mkv.

thats like opposite of how its suposed to be.:confused:


ac3 is smaller than dts.

[shon.miles@gmail.com]

Yes I "had" a sample, after I quick tested this app on it and it worked, I deleted it along with all the archive files the mkv was "delivered in".

[shon.miles@gmail.com]

I posted that trick and it copies your original video format which it thinks is 4:3 which it may well be or it just may be a corrupt mkv to start with. also you don't need the -r command if you use that command line.

I just realized when I copied and pasted and changed that command, the rate is wrong, the rate is 25 not 23.976, but that would not change the format of the aspect ration would it?

I only used it because it it was posted in another forum for fixing out of sync audio problems.

I would not know how to tell if the mkv is corrupt everything from mkvinfo looks good and the file plays fine on the PC.

[ultratoto14]

I think ffmpeg version have a mkv broken support.

I've got a question about audio delay.

When you input the mkv, you can take the first timecode of each track (video and audio) and sometimes, the timecodes are different resulting in audio and video out of synch.

Taking this timecodes, you can add this into your ffmpeg command line.

To insert a 360 ms delay on audio use this :
ffmpeg -r 23.976 -f h264 -i video.h264 -itsoffset 00:00:00.360 -f ac3 -i audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob result.vob

for -360ms delay on audio, delay the video by 360
ffmpeg -r 23.976 -itsoffset 00:00:00.360 -f h264 -i video.h264 -f ac3 -i audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob result.vob

Tell us if it's possible.

I'm working on a tool that do all the things on 1 pass, demux data from mkv, patch it for 4.1 level and mux i directly to vob.

I'm quite busy this time and cannot tell you if this tool will be finished but if you need help ...

[pepperisback]

Hello!

Since I have the new version I get the message "Error Extracting MKV" at the beginning.

How can I solve this problem?

[pepperisback]

I tried to open several mkvs with the program mkvmerge and i get this error message: File Identification for ... : Return Code 2

Does somebody knows how to solve this problem?

[survivant001]

@3r1c

2 requests.

#1 - be able to keep the temp files.
#2 - add a normalized audio step please. (that's why I want to keep the temp files)

thanks

[deepblue2000]

would be nice to choose the output and temp directory,
I dont like it,when mkv2vob always take my C: to do all the work.

Ive tried Transformers 1080p mkv ..... the mkv file is 10,8 GB... after a view hours with mkv2vob I did abort the process and the vob file was 45 GB....

Sample: http://senduit.com/6ef10c

GotSent just works a little bit better....the file size changed to 11 GB but when I play the video file, there is no picture.


And a split option for mkv2vob would be nice...
(since the ps3 doesnt support other filesystems like fat32 with 4gb limit)

Some Guys say, that you can format an external usb harddrive with ext2 or ext3 and put large files on it, but the PS3 doesnt find any drive, just works with Fat32.

Thats the reason why there should be a split option. (to burn it)

[awol3]

Just signed up to say Thanks 3r1c for this awesome tool.

[3r1c]

I tried to open several mkvs with the program mkvmerge and i get this error message: File Identification for ... : Return Code 2

Does somebody knows how to solve this problem?

you dont open mkv's with mkvmerve, you create mkvs out of other files with it.

and this thread isnt for mkvmerge.

[3r1c]

Ive tried Transformers 1080p mkv ..... the mkv file is 10,8 GB... after a view hours with mkv2vob I did abort the process and the vob file was 45 GB....

You shouldnt have cancelled it, just leave it until its finished and it will be playable.

GotSent just works a little bit better....the file size changed to 11 GB but when I play the video file, there is no picture.

Not sure why you would call that "better".
Gotsent has no detection for unplayable files, so it remuxes and it cant be played.

[shon.miles@gmail.com]

ffmpeg -r 25 -f h264 -i video.h264 -itsoffset 00:00:05.000 -f ac3 -i audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob result.vob

I always get the same result, audio and no video, what am I doing wrong.

Here is the command I used to extract

mkvextract tracks video.mkv 3:video.h264 1:audio.ac3

Here is the mkvinfo for the video, what am I doing wrong, I have tried this with and without the itoffset for audio sync issue. I am trying manually because mkv2vob v1.4.1 is producing a vob that has audio about 5 seconds too early on some mkv files, and these files all play in sync on the PC in video player
------------------------------------------------------------
C:\Tools\mkv2vob v1.4\tools>mkvinfo video.mkv
+ EBML head
|+ Doc type: matroska
|+ Doc type version: 1
|+ Doc type read version: 1
+ Segment, size 8533376412
|+ Seek head (subentries will be skipped)
|+ EbmlVoid (size: 4025)
|+ Segment information
| + Timecode scale: 1000000
| + Muxing application: libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1
| + Writing application: mkvmerge v2.0.2 ('You're My Flame') built on Feb 21 20
7 23:40:55
| + Duration: 7831.440s (02:10:31.440000000)
| + Date: Wed Aug 08 17:53:58 2007 UTC
| + Segment UID: 0x8d 0x35 0xdd 0x5d 0xd3 0x01 0x80 0x64 0xa2 0x59 0x68 0xa2 0x
f 0x98 0xc4 0xa2
|+ Segment tracks
| + A track
| + Track number: 1
| + Track UID: 2942820745
| + Track type: audio
| + Enabled: 1
| + Default flag: 1
| + Forced flag: 0
| + Lacing flag: 1
| + MinCache: 0
| + Timecode scale: 1.000000
| + Max BlockAddition ID: 0
| + Codec ID: A_AC3
| + Codec decode all: 1
| + Default duration: 32.000ms (31.250 fps for a video track)
| + Language: eng
| + Audio track
| + Sampling frequency: 48000.000000
| + Channels: 6
| + A track
| + Track number: 2
| + Track UID: 3639997069
| + Track type: subtitles
| + Enabled: 1
| + Default flag: 0
| + Forced flag: 0
| + Lacing flag: 0
| + MinCache: 0
| + Timecode scale: 1.000000
| + Max BlockAddition ID: 0
| + Codec ID: S_TEXT/UTF8
| + Codec decode all: 1
| + Language: eng
| + A track
| + Track number: 3
| + Track UID: 1
| + Track type: video
| + Enabled: 1
| + Default flag: 1
| + Forced flag: 0
| + Lacing flag: 0
| + MinCache: 1
| + Timecode scale: 1.000000
| + Max BlockAddition ID: 0
| + Codec ID: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
| + Codec decode all: 1
| + CodecPrivate, length 172
| + Default duration: 40.000ms (25.000 fps for a video track)
| + Language: eng
| + Video track
| + Pixel width: 1920
| + Pixel height: 816
| + Interlaced: 0
| + Display width: 40
| + Display height: 17
|+ EbmlVoid (size: 1024)
|+ Cluster

[deepblue2000]

[QUOTE=3r1c;1086836]You shouldnt have cancelled it, just leave it until its finished and it will be playable.

mhm..the file is finish 23 GB...thats the double size.

I cant burn or stream it. Why is it so big.

a split option would be nice

[Effervescence]

I have registered just to say a BIG THANKS TO 3r1c.:thanks:

Without this fantastic thread my High Def .mkv files would still be sitting on my PC doing nothing. As a result of downloading and using mkv2vob version 1.2.0.1 I now have all my lovely 720p Vidoes working perfectly on my PS3 in 5.1 surround :)

Once again, :thanks:

[georgem67]

Will : ffmpeg.exe -r 23.976 -i "F:/video.mkv" -vcodec mpeg2video -sameq -acodec copy -f vob -copyts -y "f:/video.mpg"
allow the original DTS to be played?

[3r1c]

dts must be transcoded to ac3. the ps3 wont play dts on anything but dvd/blu-ray discs.

[deepblue2000]

can we get some options to choose temp and working dir for mkv2vob ?

very important for me.


and just a question, whats the reason, that the vob files get so large ? 11mkv to 21gb vob ?

[naj]

can we get some nsoptions to choose temp and working dir for mkv2vob ?

You already have an answer to that here... Go to computer properties, advanced, environment variables, and change TEMP and TMP to whatever you need/want.

whats the reason, that the vob files get so large ? 11mkv to 21gb vob ?

That already had an answer before... MKV is usually using MPEG4-AVC codec, that compresses way better than MPEG2 (transcoded output) with same bitrate... that means a MPEG2 transcoded output needs a lot more bitrate (hence, space) to have similar quality to MPEG4-AVC content...


Just to leave a warm and big thanks to 3r1c, this tool is really awesome! However, I'd pretty much like to ask for a request, though... can you please oh please give subtitle support to the program? At least transcoding, I'm not even asking to supply them as SUP or other format by streaming them as a track... hard-coded in MPEG2 format would already rock!!!

Once again, many thanks for this fabulous tool, the best I've seen so far (and I think I've seen them all ;) ).

[awol3]

Anyone have a solution for this particular error?

Error creating AC3 from WAV!

Thanks.

[jamos]

@3r1c

2 requests.

#1 - be able to keep the temp files.
#2 - add a normalized audio step please. (that's why I want to keep the temp files)

thanks


normalizing the audio would take away the surround effect. basically you would get the same audio from all channels. Do you mean set audio lvls higher? if so you can do that with ffmpeg but not with the copy audio which is what mkv2vob does.

[jamos]

ffmpeg -r 25 -f h264 -i video.h264 -itsoffset 00:00:05.000 -f ac3 -i audio.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f vob result.vob

I always get the same result, audio and no video, what am I doing wrong.



unless your converting it to mpeg2 which your not, you will not be able to see video on your computer. This is just to convert to play on PS3 by setting the lvl to 4.1.

[jamos]

Will : ffmpeg.exe -r 23.976 -i "F:/video.mkv" -vcodec mpeg2video -sameq -acodec copy -f vob -copyts -y "f:/video.mpg"
allow the original DTS to be played?

It actually will convert it to ac3, but it doesnt do it correctly as the center channel is the left front. maybe a newer version of ffmpeg in the future will fix it.

[deepblue2000]

ok, I did a lot of tests...

1080p mkvs always needs to be transcoded. if not just audio no video.


So, first split the mkv in three parts, transcoded with mkv2vob and burn in it to a DL dvdr.

[Atak_Snajpera]

1080p mkvs always needs to be transcoded.

Only if video was encoded with b-pyramid and has more than 4 refs.

[clotz2000]

I just wanted to give props to 3r1c for putting this program together. I know the tools are readily available but he has put everything together in an easy to use, configurable, and awesome tool.

I can convert any of the MKV's I've got (720p or 1080p) and copy them to the PS3 hard drive with Nero MediaHome and play it with no sync or video issues and 5.1 Sound.

Thanks again, :thanks:

Clotz2000

[jamos]

I can confirm with 1.4.1 I get a 'cannot covert to wav' error after tranzcode runs with some dts mkv's. Something new is causing this issue using a dts mkv. I do not get this error in 1.4.

[jamos]

hey 3r I have had better sucess with using 448 bitrate for besweet conversion of dts mono wavs to ac3. The issue is we are going from 1536kbs DTS to 384kbs AC3 which is why the audio seems lower and generally not as good as dts. AC3 does not support such high bitrates as DTS but 448kbs does make a small difference.

BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "f:\test.mux" -output "f:\test.ac3" -logfilea "F:\BeSweet.log" ) -ac3enc( -b 448 -6ch )

also boost seems to help to get the original DTS effects.

BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "f:\test.mux" -output "f:\test.ac3" -logfilea "F:\BeSweet.log" ) -boost( /b2=5 ) -ac3enc( -b 448 -6ch )

most bluray AC3 content is 640kbs.

[clotz2000]

hey 3r I have had better sucess with using 448 bitrate for besweet conversion of dts mono wavs to ac3. The issue is we are going from 1536kbs DTS to 384kbs AC3 which is why the audio seems lower and generally not as good as dts. AC3 does not support such high bitrates as DTS but 448kbs does make a small difference.

BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "f:\test.mux" -output "f:\test.ac3" -logfilea "F:\BeSweet.log" ) -ac3enc( -b 448 -6ch )

also boost seems to help to get the original DTS effects.

BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "f:\test.mux" -output "f:\test.ac3" -logfilea "F:\BeSweet.log" ) -boost( /b2=5 ) -ac3enc( -b 448 -6ch )

most bluray AC3 content is 640kbs.

Have you tried re-encoding @ 640kbs? I haven't had much luck re-encoding the DTS to this bitrate, this would be almost perfect if BeSweet could do it.

[3r1c]

I can convert any of the MKV's I've got (720p or 1080p) and copy them to the PS3 hard drive with Nero MediaHome and play it with no sync or video issues and 5.1 Sound.

Yes it encode AAC at 5.1 and it will say 5.1 in the ps3 info bar but thats not actually what your hearing.
The ps3 downconvert any non AC3 content to 2 channel PCM stereo before outputting to your A/V equipment.
Your A/V then convert the 2 channel back to 5.1 virtual surround.

To the people getting error with DTS please give a sample file.
Nothing has changed with the DTS conversion in the last version.

[jamos]

Yes it encode AAC at 5.1 and it will say 5.1 in the ps3 info bar but thats not actually what your hearing.
The ps3 downconvert any non AC3 content to 2 channel PCM stereo before outputting to your A/V equipment.
Your A/V then convert the 2 channel back to 5.1 virtual surround.

To the people getting error with DTS please give a sample file.
Nothing has changed with the DTS conversion in the last version.

ok will try to get you one. the only thing this has different that I can see from its source is it has a subtitle in track 1 dts audio in track 2 and video in track 3. I know that is not the normal order but whoever created this mkv put it together this way. Did you add any subtitle code to 1.4.1 if so maybe that is what is causing it? I am gonna try to reinstall 1.4.1 in a fresh directory and see if it fixes the issue.

[jamos]

Have you tried re-encoding @ 640kbs? I haven't had much luck re-encoding the DTS to this bitrate, this would be almost perfect if BeSweet could do it.


Ya it encodes at 640 but i get a lower avg bitrate log message (may be just a faulty message not sure). I generally use 448 its good enough.

[jamos]

Yes it encode AAC at 5.1 and it will say 5.1 in the ps3 info bar but thats not actually what your hearing.
The ps3 downconvert any non AC3 content to 2 channel PCM stereo before outputting to your A/V equipment.
Your A/V then convert the 2 channel back to 5.1 virtual surround.


I think he means he uses mkv2vob to convert ac3 or dts titles then just uses nero home to host it then uses the copy feature to copy then play it off the ps3 harddrive. He should get true 5.1 ac3 doing it that way.

edit: Tversity works a bit better for me streaming also than nero home. seems to buffer better. I turn all conversion off in the settings.

But you are correct if he is using aac sources it will not be 5.1

[deepblue2000]

640kbit Audio works fine for me...


I just tested some 1080p mkv releases...all need to be transcoded...but the good is with the transcoded files, that you can use "ffwd. and rew" with max speed 120x and it works fine.

the transcoded 1080p vobs are 3times larger than the mkv but....who cares if you split it and burn it to dl-dvdr and you can ffwd. and rew :-)

(I always convert dts to ac3 by myself with foobar( and besweet and ac3 encoder, then remux ac3 with mkv and then you mkv2vob)

I think, in my opinion, if it is possible to ffwd and rew with transcoded files I will it always use with my 720p files too


(sorry for my bad english)

[jamos]

3r this command line works really really good on extracted DTS wav files. I use it now then remux back into mkv with mkvmerge. Volume is about as rich as the original DTS on my computer and my ps3/receiver playing bluray DTS.

I would love to see mkv2vob use it then I would just use your program for all mkv to mpeg2 conversions.

BeSweet.exe -core( -input "f:\test.mux" -output "f:\test.ac3" -logfilea "F:\BeSweet.log" ) -boost( /b2=5 ) -ac3enc( -b 448 -6ch )

[jamos]

640kbit Audio works fine for me...


I just tested some 1080p mkv releases...all need to be transcoded...but the good is with the transcoded files, that you can use "ffwd. and rew" with max speed 120x and it works fine.

the transcoded 1080p vobs are 3times larger than the mkv but....who cares if you split it and burn it to dl-dvdr and you can ffwd. and rew :-)

(I always convert dts to ac3 by myself with foobar( and besweet and ac3 encoder, then remux ac3 with mkv and then you mkv2vob)

I think, in my opinion, if it is possible to ffwd and rew with transcoded files I will it always use with my 720p files too


(sorry for my bad english)


I could never get the aften encoder to work with foobar on the extracted dts audio file. I always would get a error. I like Tranzcode better anyways.

[clotz2000]

I think he means he uses mkv2vob to convert ac3 or dts titles then just uses nero home to host it then uses the copy feature to copy then play it off the ps3 harddrive. He should get true 5.1 ac3 doing it that way.

Nero Home works a bit better for me streaming also that tversity. seems to buffer better. I turn all conversion off in the settings.

But you are correct if he is using aac sources it will not be 5.1

Jamos is correct, this is what I'm doing, I hate AAC audio unless it's like seasons of Friends or something. I will try 640kbps and see if I can tell a sound difference. most likely not.

I don't typically stream with MediaHome, I generally copy it to the PS3 HD. I recently replaced the internal PS3 HD with an eSATA enclosure with a 750GB HD in it, so I save all of my movies to it and just pull the HD movies up on demand.

Everything is working superb, thanks again to both of you for your contributions and testing.

Clotz2000

[Quatre]

Jamos is correct, this is what I'm doing, I hate AAC audio unless it's like seasons of Friends or something. I will try 640kbps and see if I can tell a sound difference. most likely not.

I don't typically stream with MediaHome, I generally copy it to the PS3 HD. I recently replaced the internal PS3 HD with an eSATA enclosure with a 750GB HD in it, so I save all of my movies to it and just pull the HD movies up on demand.

Everything is working superb, thanks again to both of you for your contributions and testing.

Clotz2000

how do you use an eSata with the ps3? I mean I've heard of being able to do this but I thought you basically had to leave the ps3 case off and have the esata cable running out of the ps3 casing to your ext. esata hdd.

It sounded a bit messy to me as I'd rather use a 2.5" sata drive like the ps3 currently uses and be able to close it back up and not have the ext. drive taking up space i dont have on my limited 2 a/v shelves under tv.

Just curious how you did it and if you are able to close the ps3 case and all. I'm thinking about and may give it a try with a 500gb WD eSata hdd (also has usb and firewire 400) and the sata cable to esata input I have (its meant for the back of a pc but i guess could hang loose on the outside of the ps3) and then an esata cable from that to the ext. hdd. (ppl forget that esata is different from sata and that you need an esata input and esata cable)

I guess I would need to transfer everything off of the current ps3 60gb 2.5" sata while it is still in there onto say a fat32 hdd? but then what about anything larger then 4gb you already have on the ps3 internal (which i guess would mostly be any movies you transferred on there using tversity or nero media home etc. so you could just transfer them back to the pc for now) Which are the better progs for streaming and transferring to the ps3? TVersity or Nero Media home etc.?

Then connect the eSata or new 2.5" sata and have the ps3 format it to its propietary file format (whatever it uses) and then transfer everything back to it from the fat32 and from your pc that you had on it before. Point is, you wont be able to read the ps3 internal hdd on your pc right? did anyone ever figure out what type of file system the ps3 uses on the internal hdd?

I've been making do with the default 60gb drive as most movies I want to see are coming out in wmvhd (which works great on 360 while wile most on ps3 have no sound) and more and more are in 1080p, so those are just easier to get then messing with transcoding x264 and they look great. So I haven't needed much space for movies and in fact had a few that I was previoiusly splitting the mkv first into 4gb parts then remuxing to vob.

Mostly beeing using x264 mkv for tv eps which are all under 4gb even transcoded to mpeg-2 , so they work with the fat32 2.5" usb ext. hdd.

I figured 320gb 2.5" sata would be fine to repalce the ps3 internal since I still have some space left on the 60gb but.... I'm storing more and more avchd home video on the internal and I ultimately prefer mpeg-2 as we need ff/rw so I'm going to need a lot of space for those especially if wmv's slow down and especially with bd+ being done with tv capture card to x264 (like Die Hard 4 i believe which i have split into 2 .vob's and on fat32 but now want to transcode to mpeg-2 for ff/rw and resume as my wife falls asleep during every movie)

So, it might be a good idea to consider someting larger then the max 320gb 2.5" sata and go with the 3.5" esata as you can larger capacity for cheaper obviously, but just curious how anyone doing this made it work and how neat it is?

[wabbster]

I have the same problem. Out of sync audio with 1080p files. 720 work flawless. it seems to be out of sync by about 1-2 secs. Any help on this? I can post a sample.








I am using 1.4.1 just posted in in an attempt to correct the issue I am having with a couple of mkv files, not matter which version I am using, they are always coming out way out of sync. They are 1080p files that are already in AC3, I was always choosing yes in versions prior to 1.4.1 and now choosing auto, and still way out of sync. If I play the mkv file on PC audio is fine.

I also was trying this trick here someone posted

ffmpeg.exe -r 23.976 -i "F:/video.mkv" -vcodec mpeg2video -sameq -acodec copy -f vob -copyts -y "f:/video.mpg"

but that changed the movie to squished 4:3 aspect ratio.

Is there anyway to deal with this out of sync audio, even command line if I have to, I have not been having problems with many files, just these few. I should mention they are x264 as well.

[puppydg68]

I was reading around the net, so I can't take credit for this. However I got FF/RW working by using MKV2VOB then dragging the .VOB file into Xmuxer Pro. Remux to .TS then Use TSremux to remux the .TS to .M2TS
Tried with 4 720p sample clips 60-100MB, and they all played perfectly with 5.1AC3 audio. FF/RW and skipping around all worked in the resulting file. Try to do this for something bigger, but Xmuxer has really slowed down for me.

1) MKV2VOB ---> .vob
2) .vob to remux window in Xmuxer, click double arrows for video/audio remux to .TS
3) .TS into TSREMUX, set button to .M2TS and remux.
4) rename .M2ts to .M2TS.TS or .M2TS.MPG and stream to PS3

I tried a 1080p clip that won't play in .VOB - tried to remux to .TS and then .M2ts - all files vob, .ts, .m2ts play with audio and just a black screen, even though PS3 shows the AVC bitrate.

Also to note, the .TS will play without audio.. you need to remux a .TS to .M2ts for PS3 to play the audio.

[3r1c]

I was reading around the net, so I can't take credit for this. However I got FF/RW working by using MKV2VOB then dragging the .VOB file into Xmuxer Pro. Remux to .TS then Use TSremux to remux the .TS to .M2TS
Tried with 4 720p sample clips 60-100MB, and they all played perfectly with 5.1AC3 audio. FF/RW and skipping around all worked in the resulting file. Try to do this for something bigger, but Xmuxer has really slowed down for me.

1) MKV2VOB ---> .vob
2) .vob to remux window in Xmuxer, click double arrows for video/audio remux to .TS
3) .TS into TSREMUX, set button to .M2TS and remux.
4) rename .M2ts to .M2TS.TS or .M2TS.MPG and stream to PS3

I tried a 1080p clip that won't play in .VOB - tried to remux to .TS and then .M2ts - all files vob, .ts, .m2ts play with audio and just a black screen, even though PS3 shows the AVC bitrate.

Also to note, the .TS will play without audio.. you need to remux a .TS to .M2ts for PS3 to play the audio.

Yeah i know of the Xmuxer thing, you can do it with elementary streams too, the problem is Xmuxer is not free software so i cannot include it.

[Quatre]

that would be huge if someone figures out an easy way to get ff/rw working on mkv's remuxed to vob.

But it would have to be pretty quick and easy to be worth it and work on more then just smaller sample clips.

Personally I had a 720p mkv movie split into 2 .vob's with no ff/rw and just re did with new version of mkv2vob forcing transcode because i know i need the ff/rw and resume with my wife and it really didnt take that long.

I guess it depends on the mkv but some dont take that long to transcode to mpeg-2.

[clotz2000]

how do you use an eSata with the ps3? I mean I've heard of being able to do this but I thought you basically had to leave the ps3 case off and have the esata cable running out of the ps3 casing to your ext. esata hdd.

It sounded a bit messy to me as I'd rather use a 2.5" sata drive like the ps3 currently uses and be able to close it back up and not have the ext. drive taking up space i dont have on my limited 2 a/v shelves under tv.

Just curious how you did it and if you are able to close the ps3 case and all. I'm thinking about and may give it a try with a 500gb WD eSata hdd (also has usb and firewire 400) and the sata cable to esata input I have (its meant for the back of a pc but i guess could hang loose on the outside of the ps3) and then an esata cable from that to the ext. hdd. (ppl forget that esata is different from sata and that you need an esata input and esata cable)

I guess I would need to transfer everything off of the current ps3 60gb 2.5" sata while it is still in there onto say a fat32 hdd? but then what about anything larger then 4gb you already have on the ps3 internal (which i guess would mostly be any movies you transferred on there using tversity or nero media home etc. so you could just transfer them back to the pc for now) Which are the better progs for streaming and transferring to the ps3? TVersity or Nero Media home etc.?

Then connect the eSata or new 2.5" sata and have the ps3 format it to its propietary file format (whatever it uses) and then transfer everything back to it from the fat32 and from your pc that you had on it before. Point is, you wont be able to read the ps3 internal hdd on your pc right? did anyone ever figure out what type of file system the ps3 uses on the internal hdd?

I've been making do with the default 60gb drive as most movies I want to see are coming out in wmvhd (which works great on 360 while wile most on ps3 have no sound) and more and more are in 1080p, so those are just easier to get then messing with transcoding x264 and they look great. So I haven't needed much space for movies and in fact had a few that I was previoiusly splitting the mkv first into 4gb parts then remuxing to vob.

Mostly beeing using x264 mkv for tv eps which are all under 4gb even transcoded to mpeg-2 , so they work with the fat32 2.5" usb ext. hdd.

I figured 320gb 2.5" sata would be fine to repalce the ps3 internal since I still have some space left on the 60gb but.... I'm storing more and more avchd home video on the internal and I ultimately prefer mpeg-2 as we need ff/rw so I'm going to need a lot of space for those especially if wmv's slow down and especially with bd+ being done with tv capture card to x264 (like Die Hard 4 i believe which i have split into 2 .vob's and on fat32 but now want to transcode to mpeg-2 for ff/rw and resume as my wife falls asleep during every movie)

So, it might be a good idea to consider someting larger then the max 320gb 2.5" sata and go with the 3.5" esata as you can larger capacity for cheaper obviously, but just curious how anyone doing this made it work and how neat it is?

Ok, so this is a little off topic and probably should be discussed somewhere else but figured I should put an answer to his question here in case anyone else wants to do the same.

I have a regular eSATA enclosure with the 750GB HD in it. I run an eSATA to Male SATA cable from the back of the enclosure to the inside of the PS3 where the original 2.5" drive plugs in. Now the SATA end has to be modified slightly, the right side of the connector is just a plastic piece, cut that piece off, (there is still another plastic piece holding the cable firmly in place) and of course the eSATA enclosure is powered via it's own power adapter, then format the drive using the Format Utility.
Also, if you're worried about how it looks, you can either A-Leave the plastic door off the side of the PS3, or B-Cut a small hole in the plastic door just big enough to fit the cable through. You don't have to take the PS3 apart.

Don't know if I'm supposed to post links but here is where you can find the cable you'll need:
eSATA To Male SATA Cable (http://www.cooldrives.com/esexcaitolex.html)
This is one of the few places that have it, it is extremely difficult to find locally, 9 times out of 10 you won't...

The enclosure I'm using-matches great with the PS3:
eSATA Enclosure (http://www.amazon.com/Vantec-NexStar-eSATA-External-Enclosure/dp/B000EDKO04)
you usually can find this at a computer store, or at least something similar to it.

And Yes, if you have stuff on your PS3 HD of course back it up somewhere before you take it out. Also, Nero MediaHome seems to be working much faster for just transferring files from the PC to the PS3 HD, TVersity seems quite abit slower both at my house and my buddies house using pc to router > router to PS3 connections.

Anyways, just figured I would offer this info.

[Quatre]

ah ok, doesn't sound like I wont want to use the eSata for ps3 especially because of needing the power cable. that is why i use usb powered 2.5" ext. hdd's for 360 and ps3.

And I need to use an eSata with my dtv stb so i'll go with just a 2.5" sata hdd upgrade for ps3. Supposedly its in the manual how to upgrade it and i will just have to make sure it can use a 320gb.

interesting that Nero Media Home is faster to trasnfer files. Tversity does seem slow copying to the ps3.

oh and i recommend the Azio enclosure as it comes with a sata to esata bracket and esata cable that most dont.

[morpheus0815]

Yes it encode AAC at 5.1 and it will say 5.1 in the ps3 info bar but thats not actually what your hearing.
The ps3 downconvert any non AC3 content to 2 channel PCM stereo before outputting to your A/V equipment.
Your A/V then convert the 2 channel back to 5.1 virtual surround.

To the people getting error with DTS please give a sample file.
Nothing has changed with the DTS conversion in the last version.

Is that still true? I read somewhere that since FW 2.0 PS3 supports AAC 5.1 from XMB over optical out. So it's only a question whether your AV supports AAC 5.1 if you get surround or not!?
Can someone confirm this?

[georgem67]

I was reading around the net, so I can't take credit for this. However I got FF/RW working by using MKV2VOB then dragging the .VOB file into Xmuxer Pro. Remux to .TS then Use TSremux to remux the .TS to .M2TS
Tried with 4 720p sample clips 60-100MB, and they all played perfectly with 5.1AC3 audio. FF/RW and skipping around all worked in the resulting file. Try to do this for something bigger, but Xmuxer has really slowed down for me.

1) MKV2VOB ---> .vob
2) .vob to remux window in Xmuxer, click double arrows for video/audio remux to .TS
3) .TS into TSREMUX, set button to .M2TS and remux.
4) rename .M2ts to .M2TS.TS or .M2TS.MPG and stream to PS3

I tried a 1080p clip that won't play in .VOB - tried to remux to .TS and then .M2ts - all files vob, .ts, .m2ts play with audio and just a black screen, even though PS3 shows the AVC bitrate.

Also to note, the .TS will play without audio.. you need to remux a .TS to .M2ts for PS3 to play the audio.

Have you tried todo this with a 4gb vob? Do the files stay the same size?
thanks

[jamos]

Try to do this for something bigger, but Xmuxer has really slowed down for me.


Yes Xmuxer has issues with big files it seems.

[jamos]

I was reading around the net, so I can't take credit for this. However I got FF/RW working by using MKV2VOB then dragging the .VOB file into Xmuxer Pro. Remux to .TS then Use TSremux to remux the .TS to .M2TS
Tried with 4 720p sample clips 60-100MB, and they all played perfectly with 5.1AC3 audio. FF/RW and skipping around all worked in the resulting file. Try to do this for something bigger, but Xmuxer has really slowed down for me.

1) MKV2VOB ---> .vob
2) .vob to remux window in Xmuxer, click double arrows for video/audio remux to .TS
3) .TS into TSREMUX, set button to .M2TS and remux.
4) rename .M2ts to .M2TS.TS or .M2TS.MPG and stream to PS3

I tried a 1080p clip that won't play in .VOB - tried to remux to .TS and then .M2ts - all files vob, .ts, .m2ts play with audio and just a black screen, even though PS3 shows the AVC bitrate.

Also to note, the .TS will play without audio.. you need to remux a .TS to .M2ts for PS3 to play the audio.

Yes the 4.1 trick doesnt work for 1080p I think. so you would have to convert to mpeg2 anyways hence no need to use Xmuxer, but it should work ok for 720p.

[wabbster]

I tried 3 different 1080p files and I noticed something that happened in all of them. When the vob file was played back the first 2-4 secs of the video was studdering as if it was playing in slow motion. After a few secs it played at the proper speed. 720P files do not studder at all and audio sync is dead on.
Any ideas?

BTW, Love the tool! Great Job!! ;)



I have the same problem. Out of sync audio with 1080p files. 720 work flawless. it seems to be out of sync by about 1-2 secs. Any help on this? I can post a sample.

[puppydg68]

Yes Xmuxer has issues with big files it seems.

Bigger files will work, you just have to have immense patience. it could take days. I'll let you know when my 4 gig test finishes :)

Is there any other software we can use to mux a PS3 compatible M2TS, manzanita can make a working .TS file however since ps3 plays .TS with no audio, you need to convert to .M2TS and for some reason TSremuxing a manzanita mux doesn't work for PS3 - corrupted data. I also tried muxing direct to 192 byte count in manzanita it also didn't work. Tried various ways of null packet removing with null packet saver and also just running it through tsremux and I can't seem to get manzanita to play nicely with PS3.

[jamos]

Bigger files will work, you just have to have immense patience. it could take days. I'll let you know when my 4 gig test finishes :)


Why would I want to wait days when using mk2vob and converting it to mpeg2 takes a few hours and does the same thing (other than increase the size)?

[3r1c]

Here is a much faster way.

Open graphedit.
Input file is the vob.
Connect vob output pin to input of MainConcept MPEG Demuxer
Connect H264 pin to input 1 on MainConcept Multiplexer
Connect AC3 pin to input 2 on MainConcept Multiplexer
Connect MCMux out pin to Dump, select your ts file.
Play the graph

[jamos]

I tried 3 different 1080p files and I noticed something that happened in all of them. When the vob file was played back the first 2-4 secs of the video was studdering as if it was playing in slow motion. After a few secs it played at the proper speed. 720P files do not studder at all and audio sync is dead on.
Any ideas?

BTW, Love the tool! Great Job!! ;)


If you are using streaming the stuttering is because the 1080 files are much bigger and the network cannot keep up. If your talking about files playing off the ps3 hard drive I have not encountered any stutter with some 5 odd files i have tested.

[Quatre]

i know this is slight off topic but .ts was mentioned and some progs to make it .m2ts which would be ps3 compatible so...

What program would combine and convert .ts files into a file playable on the ps3? i guess whichever program was mentioned a few posts up that combines and converts .ts into .m2ts?

TSRemux? or does ps3 already play.ts so is just a matter of combining them.

[puppydg68]

i know this is slight off topic but .ts was mentioned and some progs to make it .m2ts which would be ps3 compatible so...

What program would combine and convert .ts files into a file playable on the ps3? i guess whichever program was mentioned a few posts up that combines and converts .ts into .m2ts?

TSRemux? or does ps3 already play.ts so is just a matter of combining them.

TSremux will convert .TS to .M2TS for PS3 playback with audio.
To join .TS files together get TSSPlitter make sure your original files are .TS join them together, then remux with TSRemux.

[puppydg68]

Why would I want to wait days when using mk2vob and converting it to mpeg2 takes a few hours and does the same thing (other than increase the size)?

Well the big difference is that it can degrade the quality as you are recompressing to mpeg2.. The other methods keep the video intact.

[Quatre]

TSremux will convert .TS to .M2TS for PS3 playback with audio.
To join .TS files together get TSSPlitter make sure your original files are .TS join them together, then remux with TSRemux.

so ps3 can't play .ts files in a row seamlessly? nor a combined .ts file at all?

maybe i'll check out TSsplitter but actually I found an easy way to combine .ts into one .ts file is:

open up your text editor, copy the following into it ...

copy /b *.ts merged.ts

then save it as merge_ts.bat into your .ts folder. Double click it and it will merge all the .ts files in that folder into a single merged.ts file.

Saves messing around in the dos prompt finding the right folders"

then use TSRemux i guess to remux the .ts into .m2ts that will play on ps3. will it have ff/rw?

[Atak_Snajpera]

Here is a much faster way.

Open graphedit.
Input file is the vob.
Connect vob output pin to input of MainConcept MPEG Demuxer
Connect H264 pin to input 1 on MainConcept Multiplexer
Connect AC3 pin to input 2 on MainConcept Multiplexer
Connect MCMux out pin to Dump, select your ts file.
Play the graph


Does MainConcept Reference (demo) contain those filters?

[Quatre]

success on the .ts file combined using the dos command from the .bat file method I mentioned, then tsremux to remux the merged .ts into a .m2ts. only thing weird was the ps3 wouldn't see the .m2ts until i renamed it .mpg. maybe because the file was seen by ps3 as a mpeg-2 as thats what it was maybe to do with checking the mpeg2 video stream box in tsremux under "select the elementary streams you want to keep"

i guess that means it was an mpeg-2 and i was just keeping it that way? where as if i didnt checkit would have made it an avc .m2ts? i guess better to keep the mpeg2 stream that it was unless i was trying to make it smaller? and i checked the dolby digital audio stream.

Anyway, the problem i'm having now and more on topic is a 720x400 mkv (dvd screener) i decided to force the transcode to mpeg-2 in mkv2vob so i have ff/rw and it made an unplayable file on ps3 and when i look at it , it has a weird resoution. I remember this happening when trying to make mpeg2's in Super.

shame too cus i already deleted the vob version and i had an avi of the same movie in slight lower res just in case we had to resume ff/rw the .vob.

sucks, so unpredictable this stuff.

[puppydg68]

Here is a much faster way.

Open graphedit.
Input file is the vob.
Connect vob output pin to input of MainConcept MPEG Demuxer
Connect H264 pin to input 1 on MainConcept Multiplexer
Connect AC3 pin to input 2 on MainConcept Multiplexer
Connect MCMux out pin to Dump, select your ts file.
Play the graph

Hey thanks for the tip, i did try it and it's much faster, however I get this jitter throughout in the video, which i didn't have in the VOB. Any suggestions? I don't mind this extra conversion step to get FF/RW from your great toold

I dragged the VOB to graphedit Out --> main concept mpeg demux, video and audio pins to mainconcept multiplexer, MCmux out to Dump and just named the file mux.ts (no other parameters). Is there a way to graphedit this mux with elementary streams also?

[puppydg68]

so ps3 can't play .ts files in a row seamlessly? nor a combined .ts file at all?

maybe i'll check out TSsplitter but actually I found an easy way to combine .ts into one .ts file is:

open up your text editor, copy the following into it ...

copy /b *.ts merged.ts

then save it as merge_ts.bat into your .ts folder. Double click it and it will merge all the .ts files in that folder into a single merged.ts file.

Saves messing around in the dos prompt finding the right folders"

then use TSRemux i guess to remux the .ts into .m2ts that will play on ps3. will it have ff/rw?

yes tssplitter does frame accurate joins, and allows you to sort the files. it's a preferred method as compared to copy /b
its a free download.

[3r1c]

The m2ts method with ff/rw does not work properly.

Yes the ff/rw works and is in sync, but the video does not play properly. If you look carefully it skips frames stutters instead of playing smoothly.

[3r1c]

yes tssplitter does frame accurate joins, and allows you to sort the files. it's a preferred method as compared to copy /b
its a free download.

copy /b is better.
Most likely the .ts files you have were not split frame accurate, they were just split in chunks of 100MB or whatever filesize without regard to frames, so the correct method of rejoining is a binary join with copy.

[puppydg68]

The m2ts method with ff/rw does not work properly.

Yes the ff/rw works and is in sync, but the video does not play properly. If you look carefully it skips frames stutters instead of playing smoothly.

so using your graphedit muxing method, we can not get smooth playback(jittering with mainconcept). Is there any other way to remux your vobs to .TS/.M2TS?

[jamos]

Well the big difference is that it can degrade the quality as you are recompressing to mpeg2.. The other methods keep the video intact.

I am using the -sameeq option on the extracted stream which uses the same quality as the original. I do not notice any difference playing the two side by side. But you are right remuxing alone guarentees that the quality is the same. I will try using the graph method to see if it is quicker in producing a ts but if it introduces frame skipping I will just stick with what works.

[wabbster]

The file size and network is not the problem. I have tested this with a 30 second mkv's at 1080p. The file is being played from a raid 0 quad core pc. It still studders after mkv2vob is done creating the vob. The same file in 720P and no studder or audio sync problems.
Does this make sense? I can post a sample on rapidshare if anyone wants to see it.

Thanks for any input.



If you are using streaming the stuttering is because the 1080 files are much bigger and the network cannot keep up. If your talking about files playing off the ps3 hard drive I have not encountered any stutter with some 5 odd files i have tested.

[jamos]

The file size and network is not the problem. I have tested this with a 30 second mkv's at 1080p. The file is being played from a raid 0 quad core pc. It still studders after mkv2vob is done creating the vob. The same file in 720P and no studder or audio sync problems.
Does this make sense? I can post a sample on rapidshare if anyone wants to see it.

Thanks for any input.

no it should not stutter playing on your pc. Does it stutter when you download it to the PS3. I am assuming you are reencoding it to mpeg2 as just the remux will not play on pcs.

[Quatre]

The m2ts method with ff/rw does not work properly.

Yes the ff/rw works and is in sync, but the video does not play properly. If you look carefully it skips frames stutters instead of playing smoothly.

you are right.
for some reason it doesn't play completely right on the ps3. It seems like it kind of skips or there are overlapping clips that flash on the screen now and then and sometimes it freezes which you can get out of by ff/rw but it kind of ruins it.

can't imagine the dos command used to merge the .ts files together is the problem nor tsremux remuxing it to a .m2ts. Strange thing was it doenst' show up on the ps3 as .m2ts. had to change it to .mpg and then it shows up and ps3 detects it as a mpeg-2.

the individual .ts files (before merging and remuxing to .m2ts) show up and play on the ps3 when renamed to .m2ts or mpg but both with no audio (no audio codec showing up in info of each file on ps3)

if there was audio, i think there is a way to play files in a row seamlessly on the ps3 because my avchd camcorder does it. Probably has to be in a certain folder or chain of folders like BDMV>Stream or wherever the clips are on the camcorder hdd.

so there must be a way by just putting the .ts files renamed to .mpg or .m2ts to play in a row seamlessly if they are in the right folder(s). not sure why there is no audio though from the raw .ts files renamed and played on ps3

Maybe the release itself has some flaws, who knows, but if not i'm sure there is a way to get this to play on ps3 with no picture/video errors and with the claimed dd 5.1 of the release/origial files.

The other option is the nl subbed 720p wmv which is old so may need reposted but i may skip both and try requesting this in a format that plays on either 360 or ps3 with no problems (audio or video) and just wait.

But its getting to be an older movie and if it hasn't been released in other formats yet it probably wont be. The 1080i 720p .ts is probably my best bet. just need to figure out what I need to do to it to get it to play on ps3 or 360 properly. Maybe super could just make a mp4 from the merged .ts?

for the 720p wmvhd, the nl subs are hard coded and they really get in the way and ruin a movie unless you speak dutch.

i thought .ts was quite compatible on ps3. What is recommended then to get .ts working on ps3? since the TSremux mux to .m2ts doesn't produce a properly playing/working video and 3r pointed out.

Again,what can one do to a movie which is in a series of .ts files to get it to play on ps3?

[Quatre]

copy /b is better.
Most likely the .ts files you have were not split frame accurate, they were just split in chunks of 100MB or whatever filesize without regard to frames, so the correct method of rejoining is a binary join with copy.

isn;t that what the dos command does? if not, how does one doa binary join with copy? and this will stop the stutter and creat a file from the merged .ts that plays properly on ps3?

[pjclay27]

Just a quick question about splitting? When I split mkv with mkvmerge do I need to check link files? I am trying to split mkv and then transcode to mpeg-2 with mkv2vob and I want to make sure it works ok when I burn on DVD-R.

[bmnot]

Hi guys, sorry if I'm really stupid or something but this is my first time working with HD stuff. Anyways, I have a 23 GB mkv of Transformers that I made from a ts file (which was joined from several ts files). Now, I'm trying to use mkv2vob to create a vob that's playable on the PS3. But everytime I input the mkv, it says "I was unable to automatically figure out the video/audio track numbers! Should I try to guess?"

If I choose yes, it says muxing failed and if I choose no, it says unsupported video codec. I tried it with a sample mkv that I have and it works fine. It makes a vob that I can stream to the PS3 with Tversity and play fine. What's wrong with the bigger mkv?

[Quatre]

MPEG-2 Transport
Format/Family : MPEG-2
File size : 7.35 GiB
PlayTime : 1h 24mn
Bit rate : 12 Mbps

Video #0
Codec : MPEG-2 Video
Codec profile : Main@High
Codec settings/Matrix : Custom
PlayTime : 1h 24mn
Bit rate : 18 Mbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Width : 1920 pixels
Height : 1080 pixels
Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Chroma : 4:2:0
Interlacement : Interlaced
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.290

Audio #0
Codec : AC3
PlayTime : 640ms
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz


what can be done with a .ts file wit those specs. its already mpeg-2. shouldnt it work on ps3?

[Quatre]

Hi guys, sorry if I'm really stupid or something but this is my first time working with HD stuff. Anyways, I have a 23 GB mkv of Transformers that I made from a ts file (which was joined from several ts files). Now, I'm trying to use mkv2vob to create a vob that's playable on the PS3. But everytime I input the mkv, it says "I was unable to automatically figure out the video/audio track numbers! Should I try to guess?"

If I choose yes, it says muxing failed and if I choose no, it says unsupported video codec. I tried it with a sample mkv that I have and it works fine. It makes a vob that I can stream to the PS3 with Tversity and play fine. What's wrong with the bigger mkv?

how did you make an mkv out of the .ts which was made by merging all the .ts files/?

[bmnot]

I used the gdsmux.exe that came with Haali Matroska Splitter. And as far as I know, the PS3 can play the .ts files as long as you rename it to mpg but you don't get sound.

[Quatre]

I used the gdsmux.exe that came with Haali Matroska Splitter. And as far as I know, the PS3 can play the .ts files as long as you rename it to mpg but you don't get sound.

yeah i noticed that when trying to play individual .ts files renamed to .mpg or .m2ts. Why dont they get sound and how can we get it?

what is the quickest way to make a .ts file with mpeg-2 video codec (other info on my particular file posted above) play on ps3?

can't some type of quick mux be done just to get sound being it isalready mpeg-2.

tsremux used to remux the .ts to .m2ts and retain the mpeg-2 video codec resulted in a sometims jumpy video file and sometimes froze. why is this.

what would be another type to remux the .ts. Trying Source just to make an mpeg-2 out of it which i thought would be quick since it already is mpeg-2 but its taking forever like a full encode. probably another setting or something int eh audio changed which ismaking it like an all new encode to mpeg-2 even though the .ts was already mpeg-2 video codec.

[jamos]

yeah i noticed that when trying to play individual .ts files renamed to .mpg or .m2ts. Why dont they get sound and how can we get it?

what is the quickest way to make a .ts file with mpeg-2 video codec (other info on my particular file posted above) play on ps3?

can't some type of quick mux be done just to get sound being it isalready mpeg-2.

tsremux used to remux the .ts to .m2ts and retain the mpeg-2 video codec resulted in a sometims jumpy video file and sometimes froze. why is this.

what would be another type to remux the .ts. Trying Source just to make an mpeg-2 out of it which i thought would be quick since it already is mpeg-2 but its taking forever like a full encode. probably another setting or something int eh audio changed which ismaking it like an all new encode to mpeg-2 even though the .ts was already mpeg-2 video codec.


Lets just face it the PS3 firmware/software still has to mature a bit in handling video files. I have just settled on using mpeg2 recoding with my settings i lose very little if any video quality. The only sacrifice is time and size.

also tell me if I am wrong but remuxing with this 4.1 trick only works on 720p and 480p sources. 1080p has to be transcoded to mpeg2 to work.

[3r1c]

also tell me if I am wrong but remuxing with this 4.1 trick only works on 720p and 480p sources. 1080p has to be transcoded to mpeg2 to work.

The answer is "maybe".
1080p are playable without transcoding if encoded properly.
However most the people who are encoding these 1080p's are doing it wrong and not obeying the level limits.

[wabbster]

You are correct. I can stream it, copy it to the ps3 hd and it still studders and yes its mpeg2.
I can play the file on my pc in vob format using nero, but it studders in that as well. I just updated my nero recode to v3 and it converted the mkv file to mp4 with 5.1 audio that plays on the ps3 with no audio sync problems. Nero recode had a hard time with mkv's but maybe this new update works better. Anyone else try it?

Basically 1080p mkv to vob studder
720p mkv to vob no studder.
no matter what file size it is.

Weird.
Sample clips anyone?



no it should not stutter playing on your pc. Does it stutter when you download it to the PS3. I am assuming you are reencoding it to mpeg2 as just the remux will not play on pcs.

[jamos]

The answer is "maybe".
1080p are playable without transcoding if encoded properly.
However most the people who are encoding these 1080p's are doing it wrong and not obeying the level limits.

yes and I am sure that is also what is causing the video/audio sync issues. I personally make all my mkv files from various sources and I have no issues with video/audio sync or playback so I am sure its just crappy downloaded mkv files that these folks are using.

also 3r did you try the besweet option I listed in a above post? it really does help the dts conversions..they sound better then the ac3 original titles I have.

BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "f:\test.mux" -output "f:\test.ac3" -logfilea "F:\BeSweet.log" ) -boost( /b2=5 ) -ac3enc( -b 448 -6ch )

[Quatre]

You are correct. I can stream it, copy it to the ps3 hd and it still studders and yes its mpeg2.
I can play the file on my pc in vob format using nero, but it studders in that as well. I just updated my nero recode to v3 and it converted the mkv file to mp4 with 5.1 audio that plays on the ps3 with no audio sync problems. Nero recode had a hard time with mkv's but maybe this new update works better. Anyone else try it?

Basically 1080p mkv to vob studder
720p mkv to vob no studder.
no matter what file size it is.

Weird.
Sample clips anyone?

do 1080p mkv studder when transcoded to mpeg-2? as supposedly most need to be transcoded.or is it just the ones that can be muxed to vob.

[Quatre]

ok solution to .ts, i tried a few things, used tsremux to remux the .ts to bluray instead of .m2ts. it makes all the foldes like bdmv andt hen in that stream which is what my avchd camcorder uses.

so i'm thinking tht would be the way to have all the separate .ts files play seamlessly the way they do from avchd camcorder connected to ps3 via usb.

just use tsremux to remux each .ts file to bluray and all into the same Stream folder then you can use a fat32 ext. hdd and if it has the BDMV folder with allt he sub folders and then your .m2ts files in the stream folder, they should play seamlessly one after another without notice from a fat32 ext. hdd via usb to ps3.

for now i'm just going to try the already merged .ts file remuxed to bluray .m2ts

easiest way is probably just using HDTV2MPEG2 which supposedly takes the .ts mpeg-2 and makes it a .mpg mpeg-2 ps.

oops just realized i set HDTV2MPEG2 to do sep clips. so i'll try those on the fat32 ext hdd but will redo it to one clip.
so many options to try i hope i dont get mixed up and fine one works well.


edit:

I've resolved myself at using HDTV2MPEG2 to remux the .ts (mpeg-2 ts) to a .mpg (mpeg-2 ps) as it also gives the option to split the file. So that works for my fat32 ext. hdd and this way i save room on the ps3 internal for the mkv's that I dont want to have to split first before using mkv2vob on them.

I think its just not the best release with some glitches maybe but its the only hd version available (1080i and was wondering if Super's deinterlace option would make it 1080p but Super was taking to long to make an mpeg-2 .mpg from the .ts. Prob a not so great and apparently a tv cap, unless using the dos command .bat .ts merge method messed up the resulting .ts. 3r said that was the best method as opposed to a prog someoen else mentioned. I would think it would be teh cleanest method that doestn' touch the video at all.

there was a 720p wmvhd of this movie i was dealing with her but it had dutch subs which are very distracting and all but ruin the movie. It was made from an x264 mkv though so there was one out there at some point. rather then waiting for it to show back up (reposted or the like) I figured id just use the .ts muxed to 2 .mpg (mpeg-2 ps).

[morpheus0815]

You are correct. I can stream it, copy it to the ps3 hd and it still studders and yes its mpeg2.
I can play the file on my pc in vob format using nero, but it studders in that as well. I just updated my nero recode to v3 and it converted the mkv file to mp4 with 5.1 audio that plays on the ps3 with no audio sync problems. Nero recode had a hard time with mkv's but maybe this new update works better. Anyone else try it?

Basically 1080p mkv to vob studder
720p mkv to vob no studder.
no matter what file size it is.

Weird.
Sample clips anyone?

@wabbster
How did you get Recode3 to accept the mkv? When I try that I always crashes or tells me to make sure that my file is not DRM protected and plays on my computer. Well, I can say for sure that it's not DRM and it sure does play, at least in VLC...

[pjclay27]

What is the average time for muxing to vob with mkv2vob for 720p with 5.1 audio. The beginning post states a few minutes. On average, mine take anywhere from 30-45 minutes.

[jamos]

What is the average time for muxing to vob with mkv2vob for 720p with 5.1 audio. The beginning post states a few minutes. On average, mine take anywhere from 30-45 minutes.


just muxing and no reencoding for a 6 gig. file takes around 10 minutes with my core2duo.

[pjclay27]

I don't know what's taking so long. I only have a P4 2.4Ghz processor so I know it's not the fastest.

[jamos]

I don't know what's taking so long. I only have a P4 2.4Ghz processor so I know it's not the fastest.

sounds about right with a p4. my computer is very new and using sata2 4 gig ram etc.

[pjclay27]

I don't mind the wait though. Mkv2vob is a great program. One other question though. I am trying a mkv that is split into two. When I choose automatic it goes through the normal process and opens the h264 info windows, which from what I remember reading is it doesn't need transcoded. When I try the second mkv it automatically starts muxing. Is this normal?

I don't like to split mkv's but this mkv won't fit on DVD+R DL. I normally just burn on DL but this file is almost 9Gb.

[3r1c]

Because mpeg2 vobs are larger they require faster disc access and network to stream.
Especially 1080p can be 15mbit or more.

Are you sure your pc/network is fast enough?

Try copy it to the PS3 hdd and then play it.

[jamos]

I don't mind the wait though. Mkv2vob is a great program. One other question though. I am trying a mkv that is split into two. When I choose automatic it goes through the normal process and opens the h264 info windows, which from what I remember reading is it doesn't need transcoded. When I try the second mkv it automatically starts muxing. Is this normal?

I don't like to split mkv's but this mkv won't fit on DVD+R DL. I normally just burn on DL but this file is almost 9Gb.

I think when you spit, your second mkv doesnt have the correct header info that mkv2vob needs to determine to set the lvl to 4.1. best to use never transcode option I beleive for the second mkv. 3r could give you better info than I about splitting mkvs and using mkv2vob. Or just use the original full mkv and transfer it to your harddrive after it is muxed into a vob as there is no limit to size on the internal ps3 harddrive. Tversity hosted on your pc then you can see it on your ps3 then choose transfer from your ps3.

[pjclay27]

I tried using mkv2vob with second mkv and when I played on computer or streamed, it freezes at the beginning and then plays fine. The original mkv is over 8Gb so it won't fit on DL. Most mkv's I have will fit on DVD-R but the mkv is 3 hours. How long does it take to copy to PS3 HDD?

[jamos]

I tried using mkv2vob with second mkv and when I played on computer or streamed, it freezes at the beginning and then plays fine. The original mkv is over 8Gb so it won't fit on DL. Most mkv's I have will fit on DVD-R but the mkv is 3 hours. How long does it take to copy to PS3 HDD?

depends on your network speed. if you using wireless prolly around 2 hours for 8 gig.

[jamos]

yes and I am sure that is also what is causing the video/audio sync issues. I personally make all my mkv files from various sources and I have no issues with video/audio sync or playback so I am sure its just crappy downloaded mkv files that these folks are using.

also 3r did you try the besweet option I listed in a above post? it really does help the dts conversions..they sound better then the ac3 original titles I have.

BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "f:\test.mux" -output "f:\test.ac3" -logfilea "F:\BeSweet.log" ) -boost( /b2=5 ) -ac3enc( -b 448 -6ch )


Actually i do not like the boost effect on my receiver. yes it is louder but almost distorted on center channel. So for dts sources this is what I currently use to reencode to ac3.

BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "f:\test.mux" -output "f:\test.ac3" -logfilea "F:\BeSweet.log" ) -ac3enc( -b 448 -6ch )

[3r1c]

BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "f:\test.mux" -output "f:\test.ac3" -logfilea "F:\BeSweet.log" ) -boost( /b2=5 ) -ac3enc( -b 448 -6ch )

The purpose of mkv2vob is to convert and make and make the files playable, not to modify or "enhance" it.

The professional sound engineers at the movie studios produce the DTS and set the channels to give the best sound, if your sound system isnt good enough that it needs a boost you should probably buy a better one.

[3r1c]

I don't know what's taking so long. I only have a P4 2.4Ghz processor so I know it's not the fastest.

For remuxing without transcoding the main bottleneck is your disc read/write, speed not processor.

The best thing you can do to increase speed is to defragment your hard drive.

[3r1c]

I don't mind the wait though. Mkv2vob is a great program. One other question though. I am trying a mkv that is split into two. When I choose automatic it goes through the normal process and opens the h264 info windows, which from what I remember reading is it doesn't need transcoded. When I try the second mkv it automatically starts muxing. Is this normal?

You are correct that if the h264info window opens it does not need transcoding, so the correct thing to do is to select "never transcode" on the second half.

[pjclay27]

3r1c, do you stream your mkv's or do you copy them to PS3 HDD.

[margaan]

Thx for the great tool. I have 2 questions tho:

I just used the tool to make a vob out of a 720p mkv. It plays well on my computer (VLC) but somehow it plays "fast" on my PS3. Its like fast forward *2. Any idea what might be wrong?

And I have loaded a 1080p mkv with the tool which - now as vob - studders on the PS3. Is that normal? Without transcoding I dont get any picture at all.

Thxy

[wabbster]

Sorry, I used nero vision not recode.
1. make a avchd and then import the mkv file into it.
2. it takes a few secs for the file to load in.
3. Use the export option and choose cinema 720p or hdtv for 1080p..
4. Under the audio section, change the audio to 5.1 640 bit
5. You can choose your processer streams ( I use all 4 and it boogies
6. press start and voila after a few hours you have a mp4 file with 5.1 audio. The nice thing about it, the FF and RW works flawless. It even resumes when you leave to the xmb and back. I hope this helps.



@wabbster
How did you get Recode3 to accept the mkv? When I try that I always crashes or tells me to make sure that my file is not DRM protected and plays on my computer. Well, I can say for sure that it's not DRM and it sure does play, at least in VLC...

[wabbster]

it's just the muxed one to vob. 720p works fantastic. It's very strange. I even removed all my other encoding tools to see if there was a codec issue but that didn't help.





do 1080p mkv studder when transcoded to mpeg-2? as supposedly most need to be transcoded.or is it just the ones that can be muxed to vob.

[pjclay27]

Well, I was all excited about getting an external HDD after using mkv2vob but then I read about the 4GB limit with the external drive being FAT32. How are people getting mkv's to work on external HDD's with this limitation? I don't want to split mkv's.

[jamos]

Well, I was all excited about getting an external HDD after using mkv2vob but then I read about the 4GB limit with the external drive being FAT32. How are people getting mkv's to work on external HDD's with this limitation? I don't want to split mkv's.

bit off topic but you would have to split if you use a external hdd and your file is over 4 gig. until sony gets thier Sh^% together and can read NTFS drives thats just the way it is for now.

[jamos]

Sorry, I used nero vision not recode.
1. make a avchd and then import the mkv file into it.
2. it takes a few secs for the file to load in.
3. Use the export option and choose cinema 720p or hdtv for 1080p..
4. Under the audio section, change the audio to 5.1 640 bit
5. You can choose your processer streams ( I use all 4 and it boogies
6. press start and voila after a few hours you have a mp4 file with 5.1 audio. The nice thing about it, the FF and RW works flawless. It even resumes when you leave to the xmb and back. I hope this helps.


this is way off topic for this thread but here is a few facts about doing what you are saying.

1. it does work as you say but the video IS reencoded and looks worse than the original and normally it changes the aspect (it does not just remux).
2. the audio although it says 5.1 will only play 2.0 through pcm from a ps3 unless you are not using hdmi for audio and are using a optical digital audio out for audio (which i do not recommend as you lose 7.1 support). Also I beleive for mkv the audio will actually be only 2.0 stereo in to aac 5.1 out i.e. all channel stereo. so even if you get 5.1 out from the ps3 you then lose all surround encoding.

Mkv2vob remuxes and video and audio are kept the same. The ff/rw does not work on the ps3 but you can alway recode it to mpeg2 and the video does get encoded but the audio stays the same and then ff/rw work. that being said the mpeg2 video is almost exact quality as the original.

[Quatre]

this is way off topic for this thread but here is a few facts about doing what you are saying.

1. it does work as you say but the video IS reencoded and looks worse than the original and normally it changes the aspect (it does not just remux).
2. the audio although it says 5.1 will only play 2.0 through pcm from a ps3 unless you are not using hdmi for audio and are using a optical digital audio out for audio (which i do not recommend as you lose 7.1 support).

Mkv2vob remuxes and video and audio are kept the same. The ff/rw does not work on the ps3 but you can alway recode it to mpeg2 and the video does get encoded but the audio stays the same and then ff/rw work. that being said the mpeg2 video is almost exact quality as the original.

yeah his mp4 method with 5.1 would be good for xbox360 as mp4 work on that and it doesn't have 7.1 support so optical audio is usually fine for 360. But the degraded quality kind of sucks.

for mkv on ps3 mkv2vob is sitll one of the best ways to go. just a matter of choosing quicker remux and similiar file size .vob with no ff/rw or longer conversion and larger file size for mpeg-2 that has ff/rw.

my only problem was i recently did a smaller sd mkv and forced the transcode to mpeg-2 and mkv2vob made one that doesn't play in ps3 so i had to stick with the .vob

[suzook]

this might sound like a stupid question, but i followed the original directions
1. Extract to a directory (dont just run it from within winrar) and run mkv2vob.exe
2. Select the MKV file
3. Select where to save the VOB.
the question i have is do i leave it at auto, or transcode or not? i have ripped mkv files. all i want to do is make them ac3 to play on the ps3. thanks

[jamos]

this might sound like a stupid question, but i followed the original directions
1. Extract to a directory (dont just run it from within winrar) and run mkv2vob.exe
2. Select the MKV file
3. Select where to save the VOB.
the question i have is do i leave it at auto, or transcode or not? i have ripped mkv files. all i want to do is make them ac3 to play on the ps3. thanks

if your not sure then choose auto it will always come out in ac3.

A little recap on what the options do, 3r correct me if I am wrong here:

Auto - MKV2VOB will read header info from mkv to determine if it needs to transcode or not. if it is a 1080p mkv Auto will transcode the video to a mpeg2. if it is a 720p video mkv then it will just remux video (no transcode). It will transcode the audio to ac3 if source is DTS, else it will copy ac3.

Always Transcode - it will always transcode the video to mpeg2 (so you get ff/rw). It will transcode the audio to ac3 if source is DTS, else it will copy ac3..

Never Transcode - MKV2 will remux video (no transcode). It will transcode the audio to ac3 if source is DTS, else it will copy ac3.

[wabbster]

I know it's off topic so this will be the last message about nero.

1. I always use mkv2vob for 720 files.
2. I have 6 1080p vob's , 2 of them works flawless to mpg2 with mkv2vob. The other 4 had the studder problem with the first 1-5 secs of the video which throws audio off.
3. I use recode or vision for m2ts files or vc1 files only. They convert to mp4 with aac audio 5.1. my 7.1 reciever with the ps3 thru optical sounds great. You do get full surround with ff/rw to boot.

I only tried vision becuase those 4 1080p files where always off sync with mkvvob. I am willing to post the mkv and the vob on rapidshare. It's a 1 minute clip so it doesn't take too long to d/l. If anyone wants to try mkv2vob on it and see if they get the same thing I am getting.






this is way off topic for this thread but here is a few facts about doing what you are saying.

1. it does work as you say but the video IS reencoded and looks worse than the original and normally it changes the aspect (it does not just remux).
2. the audio although it says 5.1 will only play 2.0 through pcm from a ps3 unless you are not using hdmi for audio and are using a optical digital audio out for audio (which i do not recommend as you lose 7.1 support). Also I beleive for mkv the audio will actually be only 2.0 stereo in to aac 5.1 out i.e. all channel stereo. so even if you get 5.1 out from the ps3 you then lose all surround encoding.

Mkv2vob remuxes and video and audio are kept the same. The ff/rw does not work on the ps3 but you can alway recode it to mpeg2 and the video does get encoded but the audio stays the same and then ff/rw work. that being said the mpeg2 video is almost exact quality as the original.

[3r1c]

When you play mp4 with 5.1 audio on ps3 or xbox360 the sound is downmixed to stereo 2.0 PCM by the console.

Your sound system is only getting 2.0 audio not 5.1.
The only way to get proper 5.1 is to use dolby AC3 with vob.

[undertoe]

How do it get this program to keep the correct AR? After it was all done it went from 2.35:1 to 16.9. I dont know how to correct this manually via the ps3.

Thanks

[lorik]

i really need desperate help with mkv2vob and with the latest version 1.4.1 and still the sound is out of sync after transcoding ,what to do ????????????

[pjclay27]

I have a question about mkv2vob. I have a sample mkv that I choose automatic on and it muxes to vob. When I load the full mkv and choose automatic it muxes to vob. I play on PC and there is audio but no video. When I stream to PS3 there is audio and video. I have other muxed vob's and they play fine on PC. I tried transcoding but it goes from 4Gb to almost 12Gb. I would like to use the vob instead of mpeg-2. Any ideas on what I am doing wrong?

[jamos]

I have a question about mkv2vob. I have a sample mkv that I choose automatic on and it muxes to vob. When I load the full mkv and choose automatic it muxes to vob. I play on PC and there is audio but no video. When I stream to PS3 there is audio and video. I have other muxed vob's and they play fine on PC. I tried transcoding but it goes from 4Gb to almost 12Gb. I would like to use the vob instead of mpeg-2. Any ideas on what I am doing wrong?

nothing. muxed 5.1 level sources to 4.1 will not play on your pc. if you want to watch it on your pc then just watch the mkv. the others probably were already 4.1 to begin with. remuxing using 4.1 lvl is just to get the video to play on the ps3 not the pc.

[Quatre]

bit off topic but you would have to split if you use a external hdd and your file is over 4 gig. until sony gets thier Sh^% together and can read NTFS drives thats just the way it is for now.

xbox360 can't read ntfs, but it can read hfs+ which is easy to format the ext. hdd to using macdrive and then your pc can read the hfs+ drive using mac drive also. This was a great 4gb workaround for 360 but shame ps3 doesnt read hfs+

[suzook]

720p reencoded files work great. 1080p have audio sync problems. will this be corrected in a future release?

[jamos]

720p reencoded files work great. 1080p have audio sync problems. will this be corrected in a future release?

Your mkv file is most likely padding the header file to keep the audio in sync. I use the -copyts option in ffmpeg to fix this issue when reencoding to mpeg2, I am not sure if 3r1c is doing this in the program.

[ekeir]

First of all, forgive me if my question has already been covered. This is a long thread and I haven't read it all.

I am having problems decoding one .mkv file. The file is nearly 6gb. Mkv2vob seems to work OK until it starts up ffmpeg. Then I get a scrolling page with 'Error while decoding stream #1 [h264 @ 009AEFCO]no frame!
Then the time= , starts counting up until it reaches time=5589.2 and the program seems to stall at that point.
Does anybody have an answer to this please?

[lorik]

Your mkv file is most likely padding the header file to keep the audio in sync. I use the -copyts option in ffmpeg to fix this issue when reencoding to mpeg2, I am not sure if 3r1c is doing this in the program.

ok i really need help doing this i mean when i open ffmpeg that comes with mkv2vob ,it just blinks a ms-dos and finishes it ,i mean how do i open it ? i really need help with this tool coz the audio is always out of sync and the file is 720p

[wabbster]

Thanks for the info. I will try this.




Your mkv file is most likely padding the header file to keep the audio in sync. I use the -copyts option in ffmpeg to fix this issue when reencoding to mpeg2, I am not sure if 3r1c is doing this in the program.

[suzook]

Your mkv file is most likely padding the header file to keep the audio in sync. I use the -copyts option in ffmpeg to fix this issue when reencoding to mpeg2, I am not sure if 3r1c is doing this in the program.

how do i do this? i am using vista. do i need to edit something in the tools folder?

[p4t0z3u]

I just wanted to express my gratitude to 3r1c for creating a neat all-in-one package for me to enjoy my movies on my PS3.

It's just too bad the PS3 won't handle the MKV format, but this is just a minor thing ;)

Thanks 3r1c !

[jamos]

I just wanted to express my gratitude to 3r1c for creating a neat all-in-one package for me to enjoy my movies on my PS3.

It's just too bad the PS3 won't handle the MKV format, but this is just a minor thing ;)

Thanks 3r1c !


rumors have it that it will soon. we shall see.

[jamos]

how do i do this? i am using vista. do i need to edit something in the tools folder?

no you would have to do the steps that mkv2vob does manually. ie use mkvextract to extract the elemenatry streams, if audio is not ac3 then convert from dts to ac3 using tranzcode/besweet. then transcode the source to mpeg2 using ffmpeg.

you could try my command line and see if it works for you but you need a ac3 sound source mkv i do not cover how to convert from dts to ac3 that is covered elseware here.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=133563

[DiRTDOG]

I registered to thank you for this great utility. I have no clue on all the technical details to do conversions and this app works great. I have had some issues with audio out of sync so hopefully that will be fixed in later releases. I convert all 1080p files some work some don't, don't know why :D. If this app worked flawlessly I would surely pay for it.

Thanks for your hard work!!!

[Quatre]

rumors have it that it will soon. we shall see.

I and many others highly doubt that it or any console will for various reasons, but it would be pretty smart of sony as it would definately sell a lot of ps3's.

here's to wishful thinking and in the meantime 3r with other ppls help and suggestions has given us a solution.

[WicKeDcHilD]

Thanx for the program 3r1c, i can finally watch my mkv's on my ps3!!

[jamos]

I and many others highly doubt that it or any console will for various reasons, but it would be pretty smart of sony as it would definately sell a lot of ps3's.

here's to wishful thinking and in the meantime 3r with other ppls help and suggestions has given us a solution.

I was more referring toward a third party os supporting it, rumor is there is some in dev. that are easy to use and will play many formats. Technically you can get xp to work on the ps3 but I am not sure if drivers are out that recognize all the ps3 hardware. Would be sweet though to just use a mkv player and watch videos that way using xp.

[Gameruk]

ye that would be good but will you still get 5.1 sound?
If streaming to ps3?

[morpheus0815]

when using linux on the ps3 you can already play mkv!
The problem is that when using a 3rd party OS you don't have access to the "full" spec of the ps3..... google hypervisor....

Therefore the playback is not really up to speed. Thankfully the 5.1 from XMB was added, so mkv2vob does all I want (if I had unlimited hard disk space that is) ;-)

Sony supported mkv from the PS3 OS would be one USP hard to beat by MS!
Otherwhile I still have my hopes up on the dev crews to find a crack in the hypervisor which would then also mean Isoloaders could work ;-)

[wabbster]

I cannot stress how much we love this utility. Big Thanks to 3r1c!! My 2 boys and daughter really enjoy the hi-def on the plasma hdtv.

Ok back to the 1080P issue. Alot of you know I have had problems with a few 1080p files with audio/video sync. I decided to try Gotsent. It converts mkv's to mp4 or vob. There is a option to split the mkv to under 4gigs. It creates 2 or 3 mkv's before converting in a sub folder. The conversion did not work but the 3 split files where not deleted. I decided to try mkv2vob on the split 1080 files. VOILA!! All 3 vob's have no audio/sync issues anymore plus ff/rw works flawless. I tried the other few and they worked the same.This time I killed the gotsent util after it split the file. Split time took only 2-3 minutes. I can't believe it worked.


3r1c or anyone know a good vob joiner? Would like to have all 3 vob's in 1 file.

thanks.





I registered to thank you for this great utility. I have no clue on all the technical details to do conversions and this app works great. I have had some issues with audio out of sync so hopefully that will be fixed in later releases. I convert all 1080p files some work some don't, don't know why :D. If this app worked flawlessly I would surely pay for it.

Thanks for your hard work!!!

[undertoe]

How do it get this program to keep the correct AR? After it was all done it went from 2.35:1 to 16.9. I dont know how to correct this manually via the ps3.

Thanks

[simontink]

Vobsplitter V2.6 is very good for splitting as well as joining Vobs.

[mmace]

Been using the software for a couple of weeks, just read through the first 15 pages of here.

Just wanted to say thank you to 3r1c (eric?) for all your hard work and for putting up with some of the demands people asked of you (yes, demands, some posts didn't even ask - they demanded features, the cheek of some people)

anyway, thank you for the software and all your hard work

[maxpontello]

First of all, i would like to thank 3r1c for his great work. Secondly i would ask how i could manage subtitles. I mean, due to ps3 not officially supporting SRT subs, it is necessary to hard code them into the video frame. Is there a way to do this using Mkv2Vob (ffmpeg) or should i do with another encoder (mencoder?)? Which parameters should i use? Thanks to all for the help. Bye ;)

[Quatre]

Format : Matroska
File size : 1.42 GiB
PlayTime : 2h 1mn
Bit rate : 1672 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2008-01-11 23:53:53
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.1.0 ('Another Place To Fall') built on Aug 19 2007 13:40:07
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video #0
Codec : MPEG-4 AVC
Codec/Info : MPEG4 ISO advanced profile
PlayTime : 2h 1mn
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 400 pixels
Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps

Audio #0
Codec : AC3
Codec/Info : Dolby AC3
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz



3r or anyone know why a file with the above specs came out as a file that would not play on ps3 after using mkv2vob to force the transcode to mpeg-2?

the .vob works ... but of course no ff/rw. what is it about this file that allowed mkv2vob to make an mpeg-2 but was ultimately a file that did not work on the ps3.

[wabbster]

The program did not work for me for converting. I just used the split files it created and used mkv2vob to create the vob's.






How do it get this program to keep the correct AR? After it was all done it went from 2.35:1 to 16.9. I dont know how to correct this manually via the ps3.

Thanks

[lorik]

ok this program is a pain in the ass ,its missing so many features (didnt mean to come here and act fool) its just my opinion and its constantly converting a video with sound out of sync ,all the time .Its just too bugy and yes im using the latest version ,and ps3 video 9 sucks big time ,did a conversion and the resulted file lost a whole bunch of quality even though i selected highest quality possible ,so does gotsent ,i mean what IS WRONG ??????????

[undertoe]

The file plays back fine , its just that h264info can not set the correct aspect ratio to 2.35:1. How do other people get around this problem? Many movies are 2.35:1 native. Im totally lost on this problem :(

[mmace]

ok this program is a pain in the ass ,its missing so many features (didnt mean to come here and act fool) its just my opinion and its constantly converting a video with sound out of sync ,all the time .Its just too bugy and yes im using the latest version ,and ps3 video 9 sucks big time ,did a conversion and the resulted file lost a whole bunch of quality even though i selected highest quality possible ,so does gotsent ,i mean what IS WRONG ??????????let us see the programme you've written then to see how good it is in comparison

[morpheus0815]

ok this program is a pain in the ass ,its missing so many features (didnt mean to come here and act fool) its just my opinion and its constantly converting a video with sound out of sync ,all the time .Its just too bugy and yes im using the latest version ,and ps3 video 9 sucks big time ,did a conversion and the resulted file lost a whole bunch of quality even though i selected highest quality possible ,so does gotsent ,i mean what IS WRONG ??????????

WTF? You get a great solution to view MKV Hi Def videos on your PS3 for FREE and still bitch around because you don't know zip about video conversion or using command line programs?
Out of MANY MANY mkvs I had ONE where the audio was out of sync and I was able to get around that problem thanks to Jamos great posts in here and in a different thread.

:search:
and stop trolling .... you might actually get answers if you don't behave like a total idiot!

[morpheus0815]

WTF? You get a great solution to view MKV Hi Def videos on your PS3 for FREE ...

by the way, KUDOS to 3r1c for this tool. As I stated in the tsremux thread, this is currently and by far the best working solution to get (almost) everything I want! :thanks:

[Sgt.BigNuts]

Hi,
Has anyone found a cure for this annoying problem when tryingto convert a MKV 1080p file with DTS audio saying...."error creating AC3 from WAV", its so dam annoying , and seems to happen with every file of this type, Any help would be greatly appreciated, cheers.
Also a big thanks to 3r1c for a brilliant program.

[jamos]

ok this program is a pain in the ass ,its missing so many features (didnt mean to come here and act fool) its just my opinion and its constantly converting a video with sound out of sync ,all the time .Its just too bugy and yes im using the latest version ,and ps3 video 9 sucks big time ,did a conversion and the resulted file lost a whole bunch of quality even though i selected highest quality possible ,so does gotsent ,i mean what IS WRONG ??????????

What is wrong is you have bad mkv files to start with and mkv is using some header padding to correct the sync issues :p. They can be fixed, but you need a working knowledge of what your doing there is no one magic program that is going to fix all the issues that can exist with mkv files out there (especially the torrent ones).

[jamos]

Hi,
Has anyone found a cure for this annoying problem when tryingto convert a MKV 1080p file with DTS audio saying...."error creating AC3 from WAV", its so dam annoying , and seems to happen with every file of this type, Any help would be greatly appreciated, cheers.
Also a big thanks to 3r1c for a brilliant program.

I had this issue when i overlayed a older version of mkv2vob with the 1.4.1 version files. To fix my issue I just deleted the older mkv2vob directory, and installed 1.4.1 to a fresh directory.

[wabbster]

I had several files with the header padding. mk2vob had video/sync issues with them. This is not the app problem but the mkv.
I stated earlier how I fixed the padding issue.

1.Open the mkv file with Gotsent. leave the option to split the mkv if bigger then 4gb. All sync issues that I have are with 1080p so they are always bigger then 4gig.
2. Open the ac3 filter option and chose direct copy from original.
3. Start the conversion.
4. You will notice the utility is splitting the files.
5. After it's done (1 minite or so) it will start to mux the video.
5. KILL THE APP!!
6. You will notice in the output folder a subfolder with the mkv file name.
7. In this folder are the 2-3 split mkv's.
8. Use mkv2vob on all the 3 files.
9. No more audio/video sync issues with 3 vobs.
10. Use vobjoiner 2.6 to join vobs.
11. Now you have a 1080p file with no audio/video sync issues.

Good Luck. So far 100% with all mkv's that have sync issues with the above method.



What is wrong is you have bad mkv files to start with and mkv is using some header padding to correct the sync issues :p. They can be fixed, but you need a working knowledge of what your doing there is no one magic program that is going to fix all the issues that can exist with mkv files out there (especially the torrent ones).

[DiRTDOG]

Thanks for that post wabbster, I have had a couple files not work and they are 1080p so it doesnt surprise me I will try your method and hope it works for me.

question for 3r1c will there be support for dual or quad core processors in the future, so remuxing is faster? Thanks again for the great app.

[jamos]

Thanks for that post wabbster, I have had a couple files not work and they are 1080p so it doesnt surprise me I will try your method and hope it works for me.

question for 3r1c will there be support for dual or quad core processors in the future, so remuxing is faster? Thanks again for the great app.

3r1c uses ffmpeg to mux. He made a gui frontend (ie mkv2vob) to make it easy to use for everyone so fixing that is not up to him. Also if your converting 1080p most likely you are transcoding to mpeg2 not just muxing.

I think there is a threads option where you can specify more than 1 thread in FFMPEG but I beleive it only makes a difference in linux versions.

[Atak_Snajpera]

Read this my friends :)
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1091845#post1091845

[Sgt.BigNuts]

Thanks for the reply Jamos, i'll give that a try, cheers.:thanks:

[ExSport]

New version of H264info with new features!!!!!
Link (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1091752#post1091752)
v0018 (supports setting num_ref_frames and maxbitrate)

Maybe sometimes we will be able to play all MKV files(720p or 1080p) on PS3 without re-compression???

[DiRTDOG]

wabbster, I am trying to do your process with gotsent and I am trying to find the option in AC3filter for "direct copy from original" and I cant find it. Can you be more specific on where this option is? Does this process also fix the mkv's that convert with no audio, I get some like that from time to time. I am very new to this stuff, so please be patient. Also I did a search in google for vobjoiner 2.6 with no accurate results can you please provide a link?

Thank you.

[jamos]

Read this my friends :)
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1091845#post1091845

cool atak Ill check that out. As far as TS files, ive never had issues playing those on ps3 if they were converted directly from bd ripped m2ts files converted to ts using tsremux 019 (even converts dolby true hd to ac3 for you). but it would be nice to remux mkv files to be able to play with ff/rw and no mpeg2 conversions.

[jamos]

New version of H264info with new features!!!!!
Link (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1091752#post1091752)
v0018 (supports setting num_ref_frames and maxbitrate)

Maybe sometimes we will be able to play all MKV files(720p or 1080p) on PS3 without re-compression???

not sure how that is going to fix the ff/rw issue but I will look at it thanks.

3r1c command line is now supported that would be nice for you to use..no more pop up windows.

[puppydg68]

3R1c would it be possible to integrate the new TSmuxer software, and give us the option to output as .TS for ps3 play.

I have only used this software a little, but successfully converted an mkv for perfect playback on ps3 with this tool.

I love your one step process. I also noticed that the .TS files that are output from TSMuxer - play fine on PS3 with full audio, it does not require remuxing to .M2ts afterwards.

I wonder if there is hope for 1080?

[ultratoto14]

I used TSMuxer and i was able to ff/rw using tversity and i can play the TS on the PC.

The functionnality of changing level does not work as i think it just patch the few bytes at the begin of the file. Need a h264_info pass.

[jamos]

I used TSMuxer and i was able to ff/rw using tversity and i can play the TS on the PC.

The functionnality of changing level does not work as i think it just patch the few bytes at the begin of the file. Need a h264_info pass.

yes I got data is corrupted when just using TSmuxer to convert it down to 4.1 so apparently that feature does not work. I will try using h264_info to set the lvl first.

[ExSport]

not sure how that is going to fix the ff/rw issue but I will look at it thanks.

3r1c command line is now supported that would be nice for you to use..no more pop up windows.

New version of H264info can change num_of_ref_frames which is one of many unsupported features on PS3 when you try to play MKV files, mainly 1080p files...PS3 can play max 4 reference frames in video stream.
So it will not fix ff/rw....it is problem of VOB container on PS3...but we now have m2ts muxer instead of using VOB container!

[ExSport]

I love your one step process. I also noticed that the .TS files that are output from TSMuxer - play fine on PS3 with full audio, it does not require remuxing to .M2ts afterwards.

I wonder if there is hope for 1080?

Why all steps on the net describes muxing with TSmuxer and then remux it with TSRemux when they say at the end that last step is not needed and video is playable on PS3 after using only TSMuxer????
Why then using TSRemux??

Thanks

[wabbster]

Sorry, the option on Gotsent is . AS IS (no change) under the ac3filter options. The vob joiner is called movie joiner http://www.movietoolbox.com/
I have never had a "no sound issue" So I cannot answer that question. I hope this helps.





wabbster, I am trying to do your process with gotsent and I am trying to find the option in AC3filter for "direct copy from original" and I cant find it. Can you be more specific on where this option is? Does this process also fix the mkv's that convert with no audio, I get some like that from time to time. I am very new to this stuff, so please be patient. Also I did a search in google for vobjoiner 2.6 with no accurate results can you please provide a link?

Thank you.

[jamos]

I used TSMuxer and i was able to ff/rw using tversity and i can play the TS on the PC.

The functionnality of changing level does not work as i think it just patch the few bytes at the begin of the file. Need a h264_info pass.

only seems to work on 720p sources for me.

[jamos]

Why all steps on the net describes muxing with TSmuxer and then remux it with TSRemux when they say at the end that last step is not needed and video is playable on PS3 after using only TSMuxer????
Why then using TSRemux??

Thanks

I am not sure maybe you need m2ts it for 1080p sources? on that note I think the author of TSMuxer is going to have M2TS output very soon.

[jamos]

3r1c you really may want to check out using tsmuxer to mux to ts on 720p sources, maybe change the name of the program to mkv2ts hehe. It does work with ac3 and ff/rw works also on ps3. It does have command line support also. You still need to use h264_info to set the lvl to 4.1 for the elementary stream, but then you could replace using ffmpeg with tsmuxer as tsmuxer turns the input video stream and audio into a muxed ts file that works great on the ps3. It even streams better using tversity due to the lower bandwith requirements. Of course you would still have to use ffmpeg to transcode 1080p sources to mpeg2.

[jamos]

New version of H264info can change num_of_ref_frames which is one of many unsupported features on PS3 when you try to play MKV files, mainly 1080p files...PS3 can play max 4 reference frames in video stream.
So it will not fix ff/rw....it is problem of VOB container on PS3...but we now have m2ts muxer instead of using VOB container!


I can play 1080p with just setting the ref frame to 4 with the new h264info now, but of course with only 4 frames instead of 8 that the stream uses you get the blockies on playback. when i set it above 4 the ps3 of course gets no video with sound. setting avc lvl to 4.1 does nothing for 1080p, that trick only works on 720p mkv sources. The wierd thing is that I can take a straight m2ts file from a rip of a bd use tsremux on it to convert it to .ts and it plays fine on the ps3 with ff/rw. So there is something that mkv files do to the elementary stream that the ps3 just does not like and I am doubting we can get a straight remux 1080p to work without creating a psuedo bluray dvd using m2ts files. If the ps3 would just support either more than 4 ref frames or m2ts file playback we would be good.

[Quatre]

Here is an mpeg-2 that mkv2vob made from an mkv when i forced the transcode. it seems to show the correct resolution of the original mkv but on the ps3 the info shows a different res (1280x568 or something like that) and does not play on the ps3.

I think mkv2vob just has trouble with SD or HR resolution mkv's

Format : MPEG-2 Program
Format/Family : MPEG-2
File size : 1.34 GiB
PlayTime : 58mn 20s
Bit rate : 3289 Kbps

Video #0
Codec : MPEG-2 Video
Codec profile : Main@Main
Codec settings/Matrix : Standard
PlayTime : 58mn 20s
Bit rate : 2844 Kbps
Bit rate mode : VBR
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 528 pixels
Aspect ratio : 1.000
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Chroma : 4:2:0
Interlacement : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.312

Audio #0
Codec : AC3
PlayTime : 58mn 20s
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz



i could show the specs of the original mkv, but i've done that with other mkv's which have the same problem in producing an mpeg-2 that doenst play on the ps3, so i figured i'd show the mpeg-2 specs instead to see if anyone knows why this mpeg-2 file doesn't play on the ps3.

[nick101181]

Thanks to the new version of this program I was able to take a 1080p 7.8 gig mkv with dts and transcode it to a 15 gig vob with 5.1 . It streams smoothly in tveristy and I can even rewind and ff it :)

[zAndy1]

Thanks to the new version of this program I was able to take a 1080p 7.8 gig mkv with dts and transcode it to a 15 gig vob with 5.1 . It streams smoothly in tveristy and I can even rewind and ff it :)

But does the audio stay in sync, the audio never stays in sync when I transcode a 1080p input file

[jamos]

Here is an mpeg-2 that mkv2vob made from an mkv when i forced the transcode. it seems to show the correct resolution of the original mkv but on the ps3 the info shows a different res (1280x568 or something like that) and does not play on the ps3.

I think mkv2vob just has trouble with SD or HR resolution mkv's

Format : MPEG-2 Program
Format/Family : MPEG-2
File size : 1.34 GiB
PlayTime : 58mn 20s
Bit rate : 3289 Kbps

Video #0
Codec : MPEG-2 Video
Codec profile : Main@Main
Codec settings/Matrix : Standard
PlayTime : 58mn 20s
Bit rate : 2844 Kbps
Bit rate mode : VBR
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 528 pixels
Aspect ratio : 1.000
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Chroma : 4:2:0
Interlacement : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.312

Audio #0
Codec : AC3
PlayTime : 58mn 20s
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz



i could show the specs of the original mkv, but i've done that with other mkv's which have the same problem in producing an mpeg-2 that doenst play on the ps3, so i figured i'd show the mpeg-2 specs instead to see if anyone knows why this mpeg-2 file doesn't play on the ps3.


did you try doing the steps manually and using -sameq command in ffmpeg to see if it copies the resolution of the original? mkv2vob definately is designed for hd sources either 720p or 1080p and although it can handle dts to ac3 conversion it seems currently to have issues with sync on some of those titles using -copyts fixes this but I do not believe the program supports that.

the stats from the ps3 are correct it upconverts the source to hd either 1080p or 1080i.

[3r1c]

mkv2vob already uses -copyts and -sameq

I have tested the new h264info with num_ref_frames.
I was unable to get any unplayable files to play with it.

h264info is just lying about the frames in the header, its not actually change the specifics of the stream.

[zAndy1]

3r1c, thanks for mkv2vob! Question though, are you aware of that there are audio sync issues with files that are transcoded (especially 1080p). Is there a fix in the pipeline? When can we expect the next release and what will the changes be?

Thanks
Andy

[3r1c]

As of yet nobody has sent me a sample file with DTS not working, and it works for all the ones ive tried.

btw. version coming with ff/rw in a few hours.

[mmace]

btw. version coming with ff/rw in a few hours.really?
this is great news!

again, thanks for the hard work you're putting in mate!

[zAndy1]

So there'll be a new release tonight? Cool if so, looking forward to it. But doesn't it already do ff/rw compatible files :confused: Are you saying there shouldn't be any audio sync issues even when transcoding to mpeg2?

[3r1c]

There shouldnt be any sync issues, some people have reported it, but i have not seen it myself.

The ff/rw on the new version will be for h264/ac3 without recompression.

[Irishkid]

Does anyone else have the problem with 1080p files and jumpiness when streaming wih nero and tversity. 720p files work no problem. I noticed that when the jumpiess occurs the bit rat is jumping from 8mbs to 35bps and higher? Also where can I download the new version?

Thanks

[jamos]

Does anyone else have the problem with 1080p files and jumpiness when streaming wih nero and tversity. 720p files work no problem. I noticed that when the jumpiess occurs the bit rat is jumping from 8mbs to 35bps and higher? Also where can I download the new version?

Thanks

The problem is the mpeg2 file has much greater bandwith in 1080p and your network cannot keep up. The only way to fix it is either hardwire the ps3 to your network using gigabyte connection or copy the file to your ps3 and play it from there.

[3r1c]

Does anyone else have the problem with 1080p files and jumpiness when streaming wih nero and tversity. 720p files work no problem. I noticed that when the jumpiess occurs the bit rat is jumping from 8mbs to 35bps and higher? Also where can I download the new version?

Thanks

Your network or hard drive is not fast enough to stream the high bitrate in real time, copy to the ps3 hard drive first.

[jamos]

There shouldnt be any sync issues, some people have reported it, but i have not seen it myself.

The ff/rw on the new version will be for h264/ac3 without recompression.

good to see the new version coming using the new muxer. I could never get unplayable 1080 sources to play either..though changing the ref frames to 4 it would play on the ps3 but had corrupt video.

[Irishkid]

probably a stupid question, but how do I copy the file from my laptop to the PS3 internal hard drive?

[Atak_Snajpera]

by USB , by DVD+RW ? :)

[Quatre]

probably a stupid question, but how do I copy the file from my laptop to the PS3 internal hard drive?

on top of the other ways mentioned above is to use a media stream program like TVersity, wmp, nero media home etc. etc. and then when you see it on you ps3 via that prog from the file on your laptop or pc you copy it ot the ps3 internal which is upgradeable to larger size.

All of which has been explained many times throughout the thread.

I know its tiring to read through the thread but its almost more tiring for ppl to repeat the same things.

[nick101181]

Yes my file had the audio synced even after scanning thru it. I was using tveristy though, Couldn't say for sure on running it from the ps3.

New version with ff/rw = Awesome !!!! :)

[Quatre]

ok so mkv2vob can't transcode SD or HR res mkv's to mpeg-2. what about this one where i got

"Error creating AC3 from wav"

speaking of repeating info i thin this error has come up before and i'll look through the thread but I dont think it was ever resolved. regardless here are the specs from the mkv that got this error when trying to convert it to to a mpeg-2. thinking of just trying Super on it to make a ps3 mp4 unless this new version of mkv2vob can really remux to a .vob that has ff/rw capability. That will be amazing as we wont have to force the transcode to mpeg-2 now just for ff/rw and will just let mkv2vob auto detect and do what it needs to do.

Format : Matroska
File size : 4.36 GiB
PlayTime : 1h 30mn
Bit rate : 6914 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2007-11-26 09:45:23
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.0.2 ('You're My Flame') built on Feb 21 2007 23:40:55
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1
Cover : CronosPro-Bold.ttf / CronosPro-Semibold.ttf / CronosPro-SemiboldIt.ttf

Video #0
Codec : MPEG-4 AVC
Codec/Info : MPEG4 ISO advanced profile
PlayTime : 1h 30mn
Width : 1280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Language : English

Audio #0
Codec : DTS
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Language : English
_________________________________



I guess I'll wait for the new version so that I can make a .vob with ff/rw capability rather then use the current version to make one without or use Super to make a ps3 mp4 and probably lose the 6 channel sound in place of 2ch.

Will the new version work on the SD and HR mkv's though? or is it mostly just a fix to enable ff/rw on mkv's remuxed to .vob.

[Quatre]

Yes my file had the audio synced even after scanning thru it. I was using tveristy though, Couldn't say for sure on running it from the ps3.

New version with ff/rw = Awesome !!!! :)

it is? i dont think its available yet. you mean it sounds awesome. your post could confuse ppl that it was available.

[jamos]

ok so mkv2vob can't transcode SD or HR res mkv's to mpeg-2. what about this one where i got

"Error creating AC3 from wav"

speaking of repeating info i thin this error has come up before and i'll look through the thread but I dont think it was ever resolved. regardless here are the specs from the mkv that got this error when trying to convert it to to a mpeg-2. thinking of just trying Super on it to make a ps3 mp4 unless this new version of mkv2vob can really remux to a .vob that has ff/rw capability. That will be amazing as we wont have to force the transcode to mpeg-2 now just for ff/rw and will just let mkv2vob auto detect and do what it needs to do.



I got this error when i overwrote older files in the mkv2vob directory with a newer release. To fix it i deleted the old directory and unzipped the newest version in a new directory.

31rc you could add a entry field to add a delay to either the video or audio using ffmpeg so persons who have sync issues can manually correct them.
command line option is:
-itsoffset offset
Set the input time offset in seconds. [-]hh:mm:ss[.xxx] syntax is also supported. This option affects all the input files that follow it. The offset is added to the timestamps of the input files. Specifying a positive offset means that the corresponding streams are delayed by 'offset' seconds.


Also you could allow to force the size and resolution so it doesn't change if -sameq can not pick it up by putting in entry fields for it:
-s size
Set frame size. The format is `wxh' (ffserver default = 160x128, ffmpeg default = same as source if it can detect it).
-aspect aspect
Set aspect ratio (4:3, 16:9 or 1.3333, 1.7777).

I know that adds some more work but then alteast persons can not blame it on the program when thier mkv sources are crapped up and sameq and copyts does not work. I have never had sync or resolution issues using mkv2vob btw.

[3r1c]

V1.5 27/Jan/2008
Added Fast forward/rewind support

[Quatre]

V1.5 27/Jan/2008
Added Fast forward/rewind support

w00t! just a quick note that when you hold the mouse over the mkv2vob.exe it still says 1.4.0.1 but I'm assuming its still the new version.

I know a lot of ppl have given praise and thanks but too often you see ppl make programs and not keep up with it or make updates or improvements at all so this is to great credit to 3r and the more advanced users that have tried to help along the way with testing and suggestions etc.

btw, I didn't overwrite previous versions of mkv2vob last time and still got the error with ac3 when forcing the transcode to mpeg-2 but now hopefully with this version i can just do auto and will get a file with ff/rw capability either way.

This was pretty much the only or at the very least the biggest detractor to this solution. I think most were under the assumption that it was the ps3's fault for ff/rw not working with the .vob's remuxed from mkv, but it seems 3r has found a way around that making for a huge development in this great prog!

[Quatre]

V1.5.1 27/Jan/2008
Fixed muxing bug, 1.5 was completely non-functional sorry.

?

is it working now, does the dl link on first page now give you 1.5.1?

because like i said when i just tried it , it seemed to still be 1.4.0.1

[jrw]

I seem to be having bad luck with this program, Most (but not all) of the files I convert end up having bad audio sync issues.. The first 5-10 seconds have bad slow down and frame rate stutters but then it becomes smooth and the audio is way out of sync (does it on both my PC and PS3)

Also on other files a lot of the times I get "Error creating AC3 from WAV!" when attempting to convert

And lastly some files appear to convert properly (no errors) but only have Audio when playing back the file in VLC .. Any ideas appreciated!

PC: WinXP SP2 / AMD X2 4800+ dual core / 2gb ram

[3r1c]

The new version definately has 1.5.1 in the exe version, you must have old version.

[Quatre]

The new version definately has 1.5.1 in the exe version, you must have old version.

you mean when you hold mouse over the mkv2vob.exe it should say File version: 1.5.1 instead of 1.4.0.1?

ok then the dl link in the first post of the thread is not updated.

where is the new version 1.5.1?

[Bigmango]

you mean when you hold mouse over the mkv2vob.exe it should say File version: 1.5.1 instead of 1.4.0.1?

ok then the dl link in the first post of the thread is not updated.


Here is says 1.5.0.1 ; try to download it again. Maybe you got it too early.

[jamos]

seems to work great using tsmuxer 3r1c just as good as doing it manually like i have been for the last couple days.

and when I hover over it says 1.5.0.1

[Quatre]

damn what the hell, where are you guys dling it, everytime i get it from the first post on first page, its 1.4.0.1

edit:

had to use a different browser and finally it gave me 1.5.0.1

warning to others to check and make sure you have the newest version after dling it cus mine was obviously still getting the older version somehow.

[3r1c]

your probably on one of those sucky isps that force you behind their proxy

[Quatre]

still got the "Error creating AC3 from wav" with the new version 1.5.1, though I guess it wasn't supposed to fix that.

so it seems nothing can be done with this mkv using mkv2vob. shame too cus it has 6ch audio and Super will make a ps3 mp4 with probably 2ch.

[jrw]

still got the "Error creating AC3 from wav" with the new version 1.5.1, though I guess it wasn't supposed to fix that.

so it seems nothing can be done with this mkv using mkv2vob. shame too cus it has 6ch audio and Super will make a ps3 mp4 with probably 2ch.

Yea I just got a movie i really wanted to play on PS3 but got yet another Error creating AC3 from wav error just now .. any insight on why this happens... Anyone? :stupid:

[Quatre]

Yea I just got a movie i really wanted to play on PS3 but got yet another Error creating AC3 from wav error just now .. any insight on why this happens... Anyone? :stupid:

3r is looking into it.

[3r1c]

V1.5.2 28/Jan/2008
Fixed bug with long filenames with DTS give "Error creating AC3 from WAV!"
DTS now recompresses to higher 640bit quality instead of 384bit.

[Quatre]

wow, so it was just caused by long file names? stupid none of us tried to shorten it. either way 3r you are really on the ball.

and on top of it an improved audio quality for files with DTS.

awesome!

was so busy reporting the files with "error creating ac3 from wav"

that I didn't get to report that 1.5.1 was creating a perfect .vob from that lower res SD stuff using auto. I was forcing the transcode to mpeg-2 just for ff/rw and it was creating a non working file but now that I dont need to force transcode to mpeg-2 for ff/rw it works perfect using the recommended auto and just remuxing to a .vob but now with ff/rw.

Also wanted to report several other files just remuxed to .vob but now with working ff/rw!! woohoo!

great work here and much appreciated. overcoming the ff/rw limitation on the vob's is huge and there really is nothing anyone can complain about as this is now a very good solution to mkv on ps3!

[3r1c]

Yep it was long filenames, but actually the bug is with besweet, mkv2vob handled it correctly.
I just changed it to generate a short temp file name.

[mmace]

probably a no-brainer, but does it now pause and play again without synch problems?
I'm guessing from previous posts it had this problem?

Am at work now so I cannot try it

thanks

this is bad news really as the wife is 2.5 seasons behind on Desperate Housewives and I told her she couldn't watch them as they are in MKV format and if I converted them she'd have to watch them without stopping (impossible with an 11 month old!).
Guess I've got weeks of Desperate Housewives to sit through now!

cheers 3r1c, it's all much appreciated

[3r1c]

yes it resumes from pause

[zAndy1]

If this latest version works well you may just have saved me £300! I was going to place my order for a Tvix M-6500A media streamer today but if this works I'll use my PS3 for all media playback duties instead. Now to do some experimenting...

Should 1080p files with DTS convert ok? That could be the clincher for me, if it copes with those (and is in sync) I'll be over the moon!

Thanks a lot 3r1c, really appreciate everything you're doing with this

[Quatre]

i was interested in the popcorn hour or like you, the tvix 6500a also but our ps3's cost more then both of those combined so there is no reason it shouldn't play x264 and thanks to this program we now can for the most part (with a remux).

[Sgt.BigNuts]

Thanks a lot 3r1c, i was just about to delete all my MKV's with DTS 1080p's because i was fed up of getting that error msg. Thanks again for a wonderful program :thanks:

[jamos]

V1.5.2 28/Jan/2008
Fixed bug with long filenames with DTS give "Error creating AC3 from WAV!"
DTS now recompresses to higher 640bit quality instead of 384bit.

Have you noticed that the output on besweet for 640 bit shows the actual avg. bitrate as much lower compared to using 384 or 448. I do not know if it is just a besweet output bug or it actually is not encoding properly at 640.

I myself use aziddts with besweet using 448bit and a light boost which works nicer, but is slower and requires winddvd 5 or 6 (demo works fine you do not need registered) (ver 8 doesnt work) plus some other files.

[jamos]

wow, so it was just caused by long file names? stupid none of us tried to shorten it. either way 3r you are really on the ball.

and on top of it an improved audio quality for files with DTS.

awesome!

was so busy reporting the files with "error creating ac3 from wav"

that I didn't get to report that 1.5.1 was creating a perfect .vob from that lower res SD stuff using auto. I was forcing the transcode to mpeg-2 just for ff/rw and it was creating a non working file but now that I dont need to force transcode to mpeg-2 for ff/rw it works perfect using the recommended auto and just remuxing to a .vob but now with ff/rw.

Also wanted to report several other files just remuxed to .vob but now with working ff/rw!! woohoo!

great work here and much appreciated. overcoming the ff/rw limitation on the vob's is huge and there really is nothing anyone can complain about as this is now a very good solution to mkv on ps3!

now you really never need to force transcode. FFMPEG has issues with your files where remuxing them with tsmuxer does not. TSMUXER is a real find for ps3 users!

Basically the only time you need to reencode would be using AVC 5.1 1080p sources (4.1 1080p sources work fine with tsmuxer).

[simontink]

I also had problems with 1080p files using DTS being way out of sync.after using mkv2vob.( The original MKV was in sync ) I resolved by using gotsent to split the original MKV into < 4Gb parts and then run MKV2VOB on all the split files.I then use vobjoiner to rejoin the new Vobs back together.This has worked flawlessly on all my troublesome 1080 DTS MKV's. Must be an issue with large files ?
Thanks to 3r1c for the upgrade.:thanks:

[jamos]

I also had problems with 1080p files using DTS being way out of sync.after using mkv2vob.( The original MKV was in sync ) I resolved by using gotsent to split the original MKV into < 4Gb parts and then run MKV2VOB on all the split files.I then use vobjoiner to rejoin the new Vobs back together.This has worked flawlessly on all my troublesome 1080 DTS MKV's. Must be an issue with large files ?
Thanks to 3r1c for the upgrade.:thanks:


Ive converted several large 1080p DTS source mkv's and had no issues but I do the audio part manually to use aviddts so my import to mkv2vob would be a ac3 mkv file.

[Audioboxer]

Thanks for the updates 3r1c, you make PS3 owners everywhere happy :)

1.52 even made a 720p movie I previously had that didn't work, work. Dunno why, but before it would produce no video, only audio. Now video works :)

(It was 1.41 it didn't work with)

Also how does 1080p movie compatibility stand with the update to 1.52? Will the majority still need to be transcoded?

[jamos]

Thanks for the updates 3r1c, you make PS3 owners everywhere happy :)

1.52 even made a 720p movie I previously had that didn't work, work. Dunno why, but before it would produce no video, only audio. Now video works :)

(It was 1.41 it didn't work with)

Also how does 1080p movie compatibility stand with the update to 1.52? Will the majority still need to be transcoded?

It works because the program now use tsmuxer instead of ffmpeg to mux. Yes the majority of 1080p still need to be transcoded there is no working workaround, the only thing you lose is size is about doubled.

[Audioboxer]

It works because the program now use tsmuxer instead of ffmpeg to mux. Yes the majority of 1080p still need to be transcoded there is no working workaround, the only thing you lose is size is about doubled.

Sadly I jumped the gun a little too early.

The movie didn't play on the PC before (where as all my other mkv2vob files did) and it started playing on the PC after using 1.52. I therefore thought it would now work on the PS3 as well.

However after adding the new VOB file to TVersity, it still produces a black screen on the PS3 and doesn't work. (and yeah I tried the push triangle, play from beginning trick)

Could it be to do with the resolution? 1280x544?

I'll try copying it to the PS3 hard drive and playing, incase it's TVersity somehow screwing something up.

[zAndy1]

jamos, what's this aviddts? Is it free? Is it the best thing to use to convert DTS to AC3? Sounds like your method is a good way to do 1080p DTS files, I presume you use mkvextract to extract the video and DTS file, then convert the DTS to AC3 and then rejoin with mkvmerge? Then put the file with the AC3 soundtrack through mkv2vob.

[jamos]

jamos, what's this aviddts? Is it free? Is it the best thing to use to convert DTS to AC3? Sounds like your method is a good way to do 1080p DTS files, I presume you use mkvextract to extract the video and DTS file, then convert the DTS to AC3 and then rejoin with mkvmerge? Then put the file with the AC3 soundtrack through mkv2vob.

Yes that is what I do. I use besweet directly to convert the extracted dts file to ac3 using the azidts filter. which I believe is available from the doom9 download page.

I like it better plus I can boost the audio a bit to get a simular lvl as the original dts. But it does take a long time (about the same time as playing the movie) you need to find a demo of Windvd 5 or 6 out there to get it to work though, and they are currently on ver. 8 and it doesnt work with that version. plus another file dtssource.ax has to be registered in your registry.

There is a guide out there somewhere on the web on how to do it but I can not seem to find it right now.

but as for mkv2vob converting dts to ac3 it will work fine but if you get audio sync issues then you may have to fiddle around with it.

[jamos]

Sadly I jumped the gun a little too early.

The movie didn't play on the PC before (where as all my other mkv2vob files did) and it started playing on the PC after using 1.52. I therefore thought it would now work on the PS3 as well.

However after adding the new VOB file to TVersity, it still produces a black screen on the PS3 and doesn't work. (and yeah I tried the push triangle, play from beginning trick)

Could it be to do with the resolution? 1280x544?

I'll try copying it to the PS3 hard drive and playing, incase it's TVersity somehow screwing something up.


that resolution is fine it is 720p letterbox (they crop the horizontal top and bottom to make the file smaller) and it works on the ps3. It should work on your ps3 also but the no video but audio bug is usually associated with video streams with more that 4 ref frames and the ps3 cant handle that (you probably will need to force transcode that one).

[Audioboxer]

that resolution is fine it is 720p letterbox (they crop the horizontal top and bottom to make the file smaller) and it works on the ps3. It should work on your ps3 also but the no video but audio bug is usually associated with video streams with more that 4 ref frames and the ps3 cant handle that (you probably will need to force transcode that one).

No video/audio only, only happened on the PC and that was with 1.41.

With 1.52 audio & video worked on the PC.

(this is playing the output VOB file, playing the MKV file on the PC always works)

On the PS3 it never plays anything (no video/audio just black screen) - This was tested through TVersity. I've not tried it off the PS3 hard drive, but I doubt that would make a difference.

If I push triangle and go to info the PS3 reads the resolution and audio info fine, it just doesn't play.

In regards to the "4 ref frames" part is there anyway to check that with the original MKV file?

Thanks

[zAndy1]

I can't find avidts (or is it azidts?) anywhere, can't find it in the download section. Where did you get it from?

Cheers
Andy

[jamos]

I can't find avidts (or is it azidts?) anywhere, can't find it in the download section. Where did you get it from?

Cheers
Andy
sorry azidts
http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/software2.htm

[jamos]

No video/audio only, only happened on the PC and that was with 1.41.

With 1.52 audio & video worked on the PC.

(this is playing the output VOB file, playing the MKV file on the PC always works)

On the PS3 it never plays anything (no video/audio just black screen) - This was tested through TVersity. I've not tried it off the PS3 hard drive, but I doubt that would make a difference.

If I push triangle and go to info the PS3 reads the resolution and audio info fine, it just doesn't play.

In regards to the "4 ref frames" part is there anyway to check that with the original MKV file?

Thanks


try running the mkv through mkv2vob and use force transcode.

[3r1c]

Audioboxer, are you using the "automatic" setting?

Also its not as simple as 4 ref frames, you can have more or less, its a combination of certain options, and mkv2vob already checks them in automatic mode.

[Audioboxer]

Audioboxer, are you using the "automatic" setting?

Also its not as simple as 4 ref frames, you can have more or less, its a combination of certain options, and mkv2vob already checks them in automatic mode.

Yup I always use automatic.

It's a funny one this, I copied the movie to my PS3 hard drive (previously I was streaming) and the thumbnail clip works!

You know the small 10 second or so clip that plays next to the movie name, but when I load the movie I still get a black screen.

On triangle, information, everything shows as well, file type - MPG, size - 4717MB, length - 1:47, resolution - 1280x544, video codec - AVC 5.7 Mbps, audio codec - DD 448 KBps.

It's an HD-DVD rip of Equilibrium by the way.

There must be something though about the rip the PS3 doesn't like??? Strange that it can pull the video of the 10 sec clip ok though.... any ideas 3r1c?

Thanks

[3r1c]

I think this file will just be unplayable without force transcoding.

I only put in the buffer limit check in automatic mode, but there are some other things that can cause a encode not to be level 4.1 compliant (although i didnt have any test files) these files will never play.

Most I can do is update the automatic mode to detect it, but its still unplayable.

[Audioboxer]

I think this file will just be unplayable without force transcoding.

I only put in the buffer limit check in automatic mode, but there are some other things that can cause a encode not to be level 4.1 compliant (although i didnt have any test files) these files will never play.

Most I can do is update the automatic mode to detect it, but its still unplayable.

Yeah thats unfortunate, but it's the first movie ive come across out of many, so it's hardly a major issue.

Do you have any ideas though about what causes it not to be level 4.1 compliant, even if it's general thoughts?

Or how the PS3 manages to pull video information from the file? (it must be doing so if the thumbnail clip works)

For whatever reason anyway, it's the PS3 that doesn't want to play it - VOB file works fine on PC.

Would it help if I gave you a clip/cut of the movie file? :/

[Quatre]

now you really never need to force transcode. FFMPEG has issues with your files where remuxing them with tsmuxer does not. TSMUXER is a real find for ps3 users!

Basically the only time you need to reencode would be using AVC 5.1 1080p sources (4.1 1080p sources work fine with tsmuxer).

yeah its kind of funny that several ppl requested the option to force the transcode to mpeg-2 just for ff/rw and now we dont need that. Auto does the trick and if anything you now hope it doesn't transcode so you get the quicker conversion and smaller file size. But either way you get a file with ff/rw now and when you select auto (recommended) its only going to transcode if it has to , to make a working ps3 file.

also just a heads up i've had files that dont play on the pc after mkv2vob even when changing the extension to .mpg or something but they work perfect on the ps3 with full ff/rw even, so you really need to test on the ps3 as working or not working on the pc almost doens't mean anything half the time.

[azyd]

Audioboxer......

i managed to get that to work, it was the first movie i tried scince the new fetures.

but at first i had the same problem, all i did was trim the into from the mkv, only 32 seconds, then it converted using mvk2vob but it wanted to transcode so i stoped it and told it to never transcode and and the file works fine


hope it helps

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4550/0128082040if2.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0128082040if2.jpg)

its from my cell phone so its not perfect

[Audioboxer]

Audioboxer......

i managed to get that to work, it was the first movie i tried scince the new fetures.

but at first i had the same problem, all i did was trim the into from the mkv, only 32 seconds, then it converted using mvk2vob but it wanted to transcode so i stoped it and told it to never transcode and and the file works fine


hope it helps

:thanks:

Can you tell me how to trim the intro? What program to use? Thanks.

I wonder why this works, 3r1c can you shed any light on this?

azyd what made you try this? did someone else tell you to do so?

[azyd]

i figured this out on my own. when i first tryed it would only fit on a dual layer disk i took the risk to burn it but it didnt work, so i copied it over to the HD from the DL dvd and i saw that the thumbnail worked fine. i then decied to play the file and let it sit and see if it would play on its own but no luck.

i got a little angry so i decided to fast ward using the instant advance(15 sec not the 30 sec) and after like 3 seconds i saw the intro, and the movie played fine from there on.

so i went back i trimed the intro to right b4 the title comes on and trimmed the credits and i got it to fit on a dvd-r burnt it and it worked fine.

the program i used was mkvtoolnix http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/downloads.html

[Audioboxer]

i figured this out on my own. when i first tryed it would only fit on a dual layer disk i took the risk to burn it but it didnt work, so i copied it over to the HD from the DL dvd and i saw that the thumbnail worked fine. i then decied to play the file and let it sit and see if it would play on its own but no luck.

i got a little angry so i decided to fast ward using the instant advance(15 sec not the 30 sec) and after like 3 seconds i saw the intro, and the movie played fine from there on.

so i went back i trimed the intro to right b4 the title comes on and trimmed the credits and i got it to fit on a dvd-r burnt it and it worked fine.

the program i used was mkvtoolnix http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/downloads.html

Interesting! Thing is though, I can't ff/rw with my copy :( It just stays on the black screen and the only thing I can do is quit playback.

I'll give it a go and see how it works anyway!

Can you help me work this program? What do I need to do once the program is open? Haha, ive never used it before, thanks!

[3r1c]

so then theres nothing wrong with the file just somebody encoded 30 secs of black at the beginning

[Audioboxer]

so then theres nothing wrong with the file just somebody encoded 30 secs of black at the beginning

Maybe in his case, but I let the file sit for over a minute and nothing.

Plus I can't ff like he said he can.

I've not been able to try cutting the file like azyd has yet, as I'm not sure how to with this app.

I'll wait till he comes back online and after I figure out how to do it, I'll report with how things go.

I see no reason why this would help but I'll try it.

One thing I have noticed is my copy says it was done in mkvmerge 1.8.1 and a lot of my other movies were done in 2.0.0 and higher.

Could this have any effect?

[nick101181]

I got a question. I have a bluray rip of a movie and the mkv plays fine on my computer, but after converting with mkv2vob, the vob playback is jerky. any ideas on what would cause this?

[Audioboxer]

Audioboxer......

i managed to get that to work, it was the first movie i tried scince the new fetures.

but at first i had the same problem, all i did was trim the into from the mkv, only 32 seconds, then it converted using mvk2vob but it wanted to transcode so i stoped it and told it to never transcode and and the file works fine


hope it helps

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4550/0128082040if2.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0128082040if2.jpg)

its from my cell phone so its not perfect



i figured this out on my own. when i first tryed it would only fit on a dual layer disk i took the risk to burn it but it didnt work, so i copied it over to the HD from the DL dvd and i saw that the thumbnail worked fine. i then decied to play the file and let it sit and see if it would play on its own but no luck.

i got a little angry so i decided to fast ward using the instant advance(15 sec not the 30 sec) and after like 3 seconds i saw the intro, and the movie played fine from there on.

so i went back i trimed the intro to right b4 the title comes on and trimmed the credits and i got it to fit on a dvd-r burnt it and it worked fine.

the program i used was mkvtoolnix http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/downloads.html

It worked!

:thanks:

No idea why, but I cut 31 seconds off the start of the video, then used MKV2VOB and set it to NO TRANSCODING and the movie works!

What is really interesting is I also created a VOB file with transcoding enforced (nothing cut, original MKV used) and it didn't work - Same black screen. I done this as well as I thought it would probably be the only option I had, as I really couldn't see why cutting time off a film would work.

Any ideas 3r1c, this was certainly a strange one. It required to be modified in mkvtoolnix to work - A transcode wouldn't even work, and I thought transcoding would always work.

My guess is it has something to do with what I posted above,

One thing I have noticed is my copy says it was done in mkvmerge 1.8.1 and a lot of my other movies were done in 2.0.0 and higher.

As the newly created 31 seconds shorter MKV read it was created in 2.1.0, compared to the original at 1.8.1.

I suspect even if I only cut 1 second it would still work, it's something to do with it being passed through mkvtoolnix again that causes it to work - I'll test this 1 second theory tomorrow, im off to bed as im tired.

Oh well, im happy now! Got the movie working with no quality loss :) If anyone else has some 720p movies that don't work, try the above method!

[chubsta]

I have registered just to say thanks for this great program - i have converted over 50 films and only 1 has had any issues (audio out of synch) - cant beleive how simple it all was - 2 clicks and everything works.

Thanks for continuing to work on it too!

one quick question - i have a 1080p file - i am aware there may be audio-synch issues if it is not transcoded, so if i choose 'automatic' as i always do for the 720p files will it decide automatically if it needs to transcode the file, or do i have to force transcoding? cheers...

[Irishkid]

A bit off topic here, but is there a similar application that can do this with .ts files?

Thanks

[jamos]

I have registered just to say thanks for this great program - i have converted over 50 films and only 1 has had any issues (audio out of synch) - cant beleive how simple it all was - 2 clicks and everything works.

Thanks for continuing to work on it too!

one quick question - i have a 1080p file - i am aware there may be audio-synch issues if it is not transcoded, so if i choose 'automatic' as i always do for the 720p files will it decide automatically if it needs to transcode the file, or do i have to force transcoding? cheers...

Yes use auto and it will transcode it if it needs to.

[jamos]

I got a question. I have a bluray rip of a movie and the mkv plays fine on my computer, but after converting with mkv2vob, the vob playback is jerky. any ideas on what would cause this?

jerky on your computer? some players have issues with .ts files. should play find on your ps3. If it is jerky on your ps3 post again.

[hexperience]

Just ran a movie through mkv2vob and noticed that as it was muxing the temp filename was *.vob.m2ts

If I now run the *.vob file through tsremux and select blu-ray output should it work? Of course I realize it's dependant on a lot of factors of the original file, but in general, is this all I need to do, mvk->(mkv2vob)->vob->(tsremux)->blu-ray formant->Burner?

Cheers

[3r1c]

Just ran a movie through mkv2vob and noticed that as it was muxing the temp filename was *.vob.m2ts

If I now run the *.vob file through tsremux and select blu-ray output should it work? Of course I realize it's dependant on a lot of factors of the original file, but in general, is this all I need to do, mvk->(mkv2vob)->vob->(tsremux)->blu-ray formant->Burner?

Cheers

Unless the original h264 is encoded with blu-ray compatibiliy (very unlikely) it wont play as a blu-ray.

[plantunes]

Hi there to you all...
I'm a newbie in Doom9...
I need help!!!
The issue is that I've been using MKv2VOB to convert several MKVs I have with movies in High Definition.
But before the convertion, I mux the MKV (I believe that this is the term to use....) and insert PORTUGUESE subtitles, since I'm from Portugal, obviously!!!
I get a new brand VOB with Portuguese Sub-titles!!!
My issue is that all of this primarally began because I wanted this movies to be played in a DVD (or several depending on the size of the file) and NERO doesn't allow me to burn this VOBs as DVD VIDEO!
First, it was the size of each vob....bigger than 2 Gb!
With VOB Splitter, that passed away, but still no burning...because it stated there were no IFOs!
I then tryed the freeware IFOEdit, which creates the necessary IFOs and other files...
But IFOEdit does not recognize the VOBs as "real" VOBs...which indead they aren't...
Burning the VOBs as DVD Data or DVD UDF with audio_ts and video_ts structure....won't work.
Data is read, but subtitles option is not "opened"!
UDF is even worse..the PS3 doesn't even recognize any data!

PLEASE....CAN ANYONE HELP???

I JUST NEED TO KNOW HOW TO RECORD VOBs created with MKV2VOB AS DVD VIDEO!!!

:thanks:

PAULO

[hexperience]

Unless the original h264 is encoded with blu-ray compatibiliy (very unlikely) it wont play as a blu-ray.

Thanks... you saved me a coster! ;)

So really there is no consistant way to make mini blu-rays from MKV's because the encoding in MKV can be quite varried.

The only consistant way is to re-encode the whole thing.... more reading to do. (Every time I think I'm getting close I get knocked off track again.)

[Quatre]

Thanks... you saved me a coster! ;)

So really there is no consistant way to make mini blu-rays from MKV's because the encoding in MKV can be quite varried.

The only consistant way is to re-encode the whole thing.... more reading to do. (Every time I think I'm getting close I get knocked off track again.)

I know from AVCHD camcorders you can burn a normal dvdr i believe of the footage that plays in bluray players only. (you can also burn a normal dvd that plays in reg dvd players)

but point is, its the burning of HD avchd footage to a normal dvdr that plays only in blueray players as an HD disc so that may be what your looking for if that helps and you can find what progs are used to burn avchd cam footage to dvdr for play in blueray players.

this thread and prog is really for playback on ps3 though via streaming and/or transfered to the ps3 internal hdd or from an ext. fat32 hdd (for stuff under 4gb). thats what i use for the smaller stuff like tv eps and for larger stuf flike movies i transfer to the ps3 internal which i upgraded to 320gb (current largest capacity 2.5" sata). when you call up sony about ps3, it mentions that "currently only fat16 or fat32 ext. hdd's work with ps3" so the way they state "currently" is hope that they may enable ntfs support in the future which would be great and allow for large 500-1tb etc. usb ext. 3.5" hdd and wold be kind of better then 360 which doesnt have ntfs either (though they would probably follow suit and in the meantime 360 works with hfs+ which is just as good and ps3 doenst have)

i'd still use 2.5" ext. anyway that need no extra power cord and hopefully those will get larger then 320gb soon.

[jamos]

31rc can you in the next version leave the extension for the remux as .ts as i think some are getting confused as what is really the output on tsmuxer. Then it would be easy to see from the output if the file was remuxed or transcoded. ie remux = video.ts transcoded = video.vob.

thanks for any help,
Jamos

[Quatre]

31rc can you in the next version leave the extension for the remux as .ts as i think some are getting confused as what is really the output on tsmuxer. Then it would be easy to see from the output if the file was remuxed or transcoded. ie remux = video.ts transcoded = video.vob.

thanks for any help,
Jamos

good point as if you dont pay attention your not sure what it did as either way you get a .vob

will the .ts play on ps3 though? .ts used to play on ps3 but then with new fw update it doesn't until you conver it to a program stream. so even if the remuxed .ts from mkv2vob does play it could still be confusing, maybe .m2ts or .mts would be better as that is an AVC fiile type and .mpg for the ones that are transcoded to mpeg-2.

[Sean6293]

hey everyone in have a problem that i haven't been able to solve with searching. i'm trying to encode a mkv 1080p video to play on my ps3. i run it through mkv2vob (latest version) and it comes up with numerous buffer underrun errors and says its going to ignore them... okay. the program finishes no problem but when i g to play the resulting file, the beginning has some issues with studdering video and the audio goes out of sync. after like 5seconds or so the audio and video are both playing smoothly (and continue to do so for the whole movie) but the audio is 5-10seconds out of sync...

i've done the same process with other videos of equal size and they play fine, so i'm curious if this is a problem with the specific files or if my computer just can't handle transcoding them? :dunno:

[naj]

Ei Paulo, I'm from Portugal too. Maybe I can help in this matter.

You just can't burn the mkv2vob output as a standard DVD. All you can do to play it's contents on PS3 is to burn in a DVD as UDF oor ISO (depending on the size of the vob), but just the vob file inside a folder named "VIDEO" in the root of the DVD.

BTW, how did you insert subtitles in the vob file? Hard-coded? Or in "sup" format? What tools did you use? Did you re-encoded the MKV file or just muxed the subtitle track along it? I'm asking this as mkv2vob, as to my knowledge, just uses the first video track and first audio track to create the vob, ignoring all other tracks, including subtitles...

Anyway, good luck.

And as I've asked before, could please 3r1c spend a bit of time, whenever possible, with this subtitle support? Many thanks for the ever better/best tool I've ever seen to support in PS3 what Sony should already support nativelly :)

[WicKeDcHilD]

3r1c, i ran a bunch of my mkv's through your mkv2vob and now you come out with your new version that has fast forward/rewind, i wanna be able to do the files with the new version now... what program could i use to undo what the old version did, so i can redo them with your new version?? or am i screwed lol

[Yaka]

the new rar file is throwing up errors thur winrar for tried re downloading sevral times

! D:\mkv2vob.rar: CRC failed in tools\ffmpeg.exe. The file is corrupt
! D:\mkv2vob.rar: Unexpected end of archive

[jamos]

good point as if you dont pay attention your not sure what it did as either way you get a .vob

will the .ts play on ps3 though? .ts used to play on ps3 but then with new fw update it doesn't until you conver it to a program stream. so even if the remuxed .ts from mkv2vob does play it could still be confusing, maybe .m2ts or .mts would be better as that is an AVC fiile type and .mpg for the ones that are transcoded to mpeg-2.

.ts files play fine on the ps3 and the remuxed file is a transport stream container.

[jamos]

3r1c, i ran a bunch of my mkv's through your mkv2vob and now you come out with your new version that has fast forward/rewind, i wanna be able to do the files with the new version now... what program could i use to undo what the old version did, so i can redo them with your new version?? or am i screwed lol

could try running the files through tsmuxer and see if that fixes it.

[jamos]

hey everyone in have a problem that i haven't been able to solve with searching. i'm trying to encode a mkv 1080p video to play on my ps3. i run it through mkv2vob (latest version) and it comes up with numerous buffer underrun errors and says its going to ignore them... okay. the program finishes no problem but when i g to play the resulting file, the beginning has some issues with studdering video and the audio goes out of sync. after like 5seconds or so the audio and video are both playing smoothly (and continue to do so for the whole movie) but the audio is 5-10seconds out of sync...

i've done the same process with other videos of equal size and they play fine, so i'm curious if this is a problem with the specific files or if my computer just can't handle transcoding them? :dunno:


This has been discussed many times. you probably manually need to adjust a offset using ffmpeg. It is a problem with your files that are causing this not mkv2vob or your computer.

[Sean6293]

This has been discussed many times. you probably manually need to adjust a offset using ffmpeg. It is a problem with your files that are causing this not mkv2vob or your computer.obviously i'm new to this. anyone able to help me further diagnose this problem? :(

[Audioboxer]

Is there anything you can do about low speech volume on the films?

A few films I've convered end up with sfx louder than speech. I guess it's because I'm just using my TV speaker for output, and the original file is 5.1 AC3?

Weird though, it only seems to be on one or two films, so it's not really that big an issue - And I can still hear things, it's not like its not watchable.

[Quatre]

3r1c, i ran a bunch of my mkv's through your mkv2vob and now you come out with your new version that has fast forward/rewind, i wanna be able to do the files with the new version now... what program could i use to undo what the old version did, so i can redo them with your new version?? or am i screwed lol

not sure if there is a way. you probably should have kept the original mkv file so that you could redo them now as a vob with ff/rw. if you wanted ff/rw with older version you could have forced the transcode to mpeg-2

[Sean6293]

i'm gonna try splitting my mkv up and checking the version of the h264 file. it needs to be 4.1 right?

[WicKeDcHilD]

3r1c, i ran a bunch of my mkv's through your mkv2vob and now you come out with your new version that has fast forward/rewind, i wanna be able to do the files with the new version now... what program could i use to undo what the old version did, so i can redo them with your new version?? or am i screwed lol

could try running the files through tsmuxer and see if that fixes it.

not sure if there is a way. you probably should have kept the original mkv file so that you could redo them now as a vob with ff/rw. if you wanted ff/rw with older version you could have forced the transcode to mpeg-2

i ran the file through mkvmerge and it seems to be working properly, i am just running it through mkv2vob right now, will post back when its done. I also had to set the fps to 23.976 in the mkvmerge because it was defaulting to 25, didnt know that till i just read it on the web before i converted and posted here Lol, was pissing me off, kept ending up with audio 3-4 seconds out of sync

[mmace]

Love the software as I've said, just wondered if you've considered a batch convert option?
I usually download a few things at once and have LOADS on my HDD all that need converting, would love to be able to just set them all going and leave the PC working away.

[Honeyko]

Thanks... you saved me a coster! ;)
I hate to sound horribly impertinent, but why burn plastic?

-- I'm assuming there's a means to merely play an ISO on one's ps3...???

The procedure would be something like:
1. mkv2vob
2. ImgTool-type utility
3. ISO player

[WicKeDcHilD]

well it seems to have worked, i went to bed and left it running, woke this morning and played it on pc and ps3 this morning and it seems to be good... I'm testing with a few more movies to make sure its actually working but it looks like it is! It did put the files back together properly so mkv2vob can find everything and fast forward/rewind is all good, its the sound/video sync im checking.

Edit:
just in case someone else wants to try it out

mkv2vob created files are named .mpg
i open up mkvmerge GUI 2.1.0 and load the file
i change the video frame rate to 23.976 ( or mkvmerge defaults to 25fps )
start the remux and wait till its done and is a brand new .mkv :)
then run it through mkv2vob like normal

[DiRTDOG]

3r1c, thanks for the update I have been getting that error on some of my .mkv's. Your hard work is much appreciated!!!

Is there a way to run mkv2vob in with more than one file, like a batch function?

[Sgt.BigNuts]

3r1c, thanks for the update I have been getting that error on some of my .mkv's. Your hard work is much appreciated!!!

Is there a way to run mkv2vob in with more than one file, like a batch function?

Brilliant program, but as said above , a batch option would be perfect, cheers :)

[georgem67]

well it seems to have worked, i went to bed and left it running, woke this morning and played it on pc and ps3 this morning and it seems to be good... I'm testing with a few more movies to make sure its actually working but it looks like it is! It did put the files back together properly so mkv2vob can find everything and fast forward/rewind is all good, its the sound/video sync im checking.

Edit:
just in case someone else wants to try it out

mkv2vob created files are named .mpg
i open up mkvmerge GUI 2.1.0 and load the file
i change the video frame rate to 23.976 ( or mkvmerge defaults to 25fps )
start the remux and wait till its done and is a brand new .mkv :)
then run it through mkv2vob like normal

mkv2vob files are vob not .mpg
how did you get .mpg files and load them to mkmerge?
if the ext was .mpg they should have ff/rewound anyway!
I also need to redo a few old vobs....how else would you suggest?

Cheers

[WicKeDcHilD]

mkv2vob creates .vob from mkv's, in order for me to use wmp11 to stream to my ps3 all i do is rename the .vob part of the file with .mpg, so wmp11 see's the files in my shared folder. They didnt have full fast forward and rewind support, actually no rewind support at all and only 1.5x fast forward. Which was annoying as hell, i couldnt even stop the movie and start it again at the same spot as when i turned it off. Now i can and it seems the audio and video is in sync but im still checking it to make sure. I'm watching a movie right now on the ps3 to make sure there isnt any drifting audio/video. If you had created your vob files with mkv2vob you should try what i am trying, just make sure to set the proper fps in the mkvmerge gui

[hexperience]

this thread and prog is really for playback on ps3 though via streaming and/or transfered to the ps3 internal hdd


I agree, I'm just trying to see if there is a bonus way to play stuff on my blu-ray player in another room. (Got it for free with my TV).

The main reason I want to put stuff on disc is simply to store it. Even if it only plays in the PS3 that is fine.

And I see in an earlier post that .vob does work if burnt to the /VIDEO folder.

[hexperience]

Anyone have this issue?

I ran an mkv through that had DTS audio, the result file stayed in audio sync by dropping video frames!

I suspect the orginal mkv, but thought I'd see if I'm not the only one seeing this?

Cheers

[natronicus]

I've seen comments in this thread stating there is a way to invoke this program from the command line, but I can't figure it out, and there's no readme.

How do you do it?

"mkv2vob infile.mkv outfile.vob" doesn't work.

[3r1c]

there are no command line options

[Yaka]

where are you guys downloading the latest version from?

ive been trying the one on the first post of this thread and is giving me errors when i unrar

[Aamchi]

Great Tool! Batch processing would be nice. Also the possibiliy of changing the temp directory would be great. I only have 1 GB free space on my windows partition :confused:

[jamos]

where are you guys downloading the latest version from?

ive been trying the one on the first post of this thread and is giving me errors when i unrar

there is nothing wrong with the .rar file. I just redownloaded it and tested it.

[Yaka]

well i uninsstaled win rar and re-installed it after a fresh boot its working now

no idea why it was giving me errors tho

[jamos]

Great Tool! Batch processing would be nice. Also the possibiliy of changing the temp directory would be great. I only have 1 GB free space on my windows partition :confused:

you can set your temp directory to another drive by changing your settings in xp in your
system properties->advanced options->Environment Variables. If you only have 1 gig. left on your windows partition I strongly advise you do so even if you do not use this program.
http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=settingsce8.png

[jamos]

well i uninsstaled win rar and re-installed it after a fresh boot its working now

no idea why it was giving me errors tho

glad to see you got it working!:)

[LandCrab]

Hi Quatre !,
I'm asking fro a little help here if that's ok ...
Could you tell me what program you use to transfer your files from PC to PS3 ... Is it TVersity or Red kawa? .

Reason is I've been using Red Kawa .. yet I find to transfer it to the PS3 the file extension needs to be changed from vob to (mpg) or else I get a error message. When it's copied I find the thumbnail doesn't work .

I've copied files directly to the PS3 off a disk as a vob and the thumbnails work. I'm guessing it's the file extension that causes the thumbnail not to work ?

Thanks again :)

[jamos]

Hi Quatre !,
I'm asking fro a little help here if that's ok ...
Could you tell me what program you use to transfer your files from PC to PS3 ... Is it TVersity or Red kawa? .

Reason is I've been using Red Kawa .. yet I find to transfer it to the PS3 the file extension needs to be changed from vob to (mpg) or else I get a error message. When it's copied I find the thumbnail doesn't work .

I've copied files directly to the PS3 off a disk as a vob and the thumbnails work. I'm guessing it's the file extension that causes the thumbnail not to work ?

Thanks again :)


not to answer for Quatre, but using tversity you can copy the file to the ps3 (using copy from the ps3) and it will have thumbnails (or previews) without even having to rename the file.

[kazuo]

This is the perfect app I was looking for my PS3. I no longer have to wait for Sony to support MKV. Of course it takes a bit of work, but it's well worth it. Much thanks! :)

[LandCrab]

Thanx Jamos!
Just what I wanted to hear ! I'll DL it and give it a whirl!
BTW does it work much like Red Kawa? with the ip address in the internet explorer on the PS3? :)

[3r1c]

tversity shows up under videos in the ps3, no need to enter any ip in the ps3 browser.

[LandCrab]

Damn you guys are so quick to reply ! Awesome . Yeah I was going to edit my last post .. I figured it out =)

**Hey thanx heaps 3r1c ! Your programme has made alot of happy people out there !Thanx to people like yourself this is at all possible. I can't emphasise it enough !! Not to mention the feed back
** Top notch **
:)

[Irishkid]

If I burn teh vob file on to a blue-ray disk can I play it on the ps3?

[stewart1]

thanks for the fine software was just wondering what dvd's i can burn the vobs on i have about 15 vobs and everyone is 30 to 40mb to big to fit on the dvd-r's

[x400]

thank you sooo much for this, cant believe i havent heard about it till now :)

[hexperience]

Anyone have this issue?

I ran an mkv through that had DTS audio, the result file stayed in audio sync by dropping video frames!

I suspect the orginal mkv, but thought I'd see if I'm not the only one seeing this?

Cheers

-Bump-

I've had this on a couple of different source files now...

Sorry if this has already been covered.

What happens is the video speeds up or skips frames in order to keep up with the audio. (At least that's what it looks like when you watch the file)

Anyone have this, or know how to "clean up" the source file?

Cheers

[Sean6293]

hey everyone in have a problem that i haven't been able to solve with searching. i'm trying to encode a mkv 1080p video to play on my ps3. i run it through mkv2vob (latest version) and it comes up with numerous buffer underrun errors and says its going to ignore them... okay. the program finishes no problem but when i g to play the resulting file, the beginning has some issues with studdering video and the audio goes out of sync. after like 5seconds or so the audio and video are both playing smoothly (and continue to do so for the whole movie) but the audio is 5-10seconds out of sync...

i've done the same process with other videos of equal size and they play fine, so i'm curious if this is a problem with the specific files or if my computer just can't handle transcoding them? :dunno:

hey guys i'm still having trouble with this. i tried taking my mkv and extracting the a/v streams then use mkvmerge to merge them back into one making sure to put 23.976 as the frame rate for the video and i'm still getting a bit of video stutter in the opening seconds of the clip followed by a smooth playing, but out of sync movie.


this is the mkvinfo for the file after i rejoined it w/ mkvmerge:


(MKVInfo) + EBML head at 0
(MKVInfo) |+ Doc type: matroska at 5
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[Yaka]

do we need more than 2gb for this to work its magic? i did 2 4gb mkvs 2 vob and both are around 200mb:/

[chubsta]

do we need more than 2gb for this to work its magic? i did 2 4gb mkvs 2 vob and both are around 200mb:/

Im running it on a crappy old pc with 512mb of ram and it works great for me...

[puppydg68]

Since converting to TS/Vob increases the original size of the mkv, what ist he best way to cut the credits or something to get it to fit on a 4.3 DVD-5
h264ts cutter gives an error opening any of the resuling .TS or .M2TS of mkv converted.

[SKAPiter]

Great news about ff/rw working.

1. Multiple audio tracks.
2. Splitter for external HD (fat32)
3. Batch or Job Que

.. and let me know where to send the donation. :-)

[Yaka]

i meant do we need more than 2gb free on C:\ drive?

sorry about not being clear before

[azyd]

puppydg68

your best bet is to cut it b4 you convert, i cut the credits and anything thats b4 the main title.

i use http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/downloads.html


YAKA

you are going to need more that 2 gigs. if the movie is 4.5gigs you are going to need at least 9 gigs more if you have dts and have to convert to ac3

[Sean6293]

i'm still having trouble with this audio sync issue. anyone willing to point me in the direction of a proper FAQ or something?

[x400]

i get an error when it tries to mux the files.. it just says "error muxing" (short statement along those lines)


the file is 1080p with 1.5mb DTS audio if that helps

[Audioboxer]

-Bump-

I've had this on a couple of different source files now...

Sorry if this has already been covered.

What happens is the video speeds up or skips frames in order to keep up with the audio. (At least that's what it looks like when you watch the file)

Anyone have this, or know how to "clean up" the source file?

Cheers

Ahh I wondered why my copy of Ratatouille was doing that! (it is DTS audio)

Thing is mate, it only does it on the PS3, not PC.

Playback of the VOB file on the PC = Smooth in the places I seen it jump on the PS3.

[x400]

i get an error when it tries to mux the files.. it just says "error muxing" (short statement along those lines)


the file is 1080p with 1.5mb DTS audio if that helps

i figured out my problem, i was running out of hard drive space..


but my problem now is.... the program is using my C:\ to place the temporary files into (like the audio streams etc)

but my c:\ is packed... i was hoping it would use the drive im saving to to place all those temp files into D:\ since that has 50gbs of free space


anyway in telling it where to put the temp files??

[Sean6293]

hey guys, i'm still trying to figure out how to fix this audio sync issue. it only occurs with a few files that i try, most work fine. but its infuriating and i'd love it if someone could help me out with figuring out what to do with the few files that go out of sync.

[Audioboxer]

hey 3r1c seeing as you use tsremuxer, do you plan on updating mkv2vob when new versions of tsremuxer come out?

http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.2.10.zip

just out

I thought about overwriting the tsremuxer.exe in mkv2vobs "tools" folder, but the large difference in size put me off.

I'll wait for your word on it!

Also I can confirm the DTS bug on every MKV I've tried - What happens is the sound plays untouched, but the video seems to get choppy/speed up for some reason - It does this on intervals, it's not consistent, and for me it ranges between a couple of seconds to 5-10 seconds. Everything remains in-sync after the choppiness stops.

Once it stopped my playback completely and returned to the XMB.

[Audioboxer]

Just to update, I went ahead and replaced the tsremuxer.exe in the tools folder with an up to date one and it seems to work ok! (sorry 3r1c I was eager to update and see if it worked!)

I noticed you were using version 1.2.0 in MKV2VOB 1.52,

History
* Version 1.2.9
- Fixed MKV parsing module. Some MKV files did not work (lace sice invalid detected for xiph laces, this cause access violation error)
* Version 1.2.8
- Fixed AC3 stream detection. Some AC3 streams were not recognized (broken in version 1.2.6 only)
* Version 1.2.6
- Added Dolby True HD support
- Added MPEG audio layer 1/2/3 support
- Fixed a bug in the M2TS parsing module. Sometimes TS frames were lost.
- Fixed a bug in the Matroska parsing module. Short NAL unit len codes for H.264 tracks did not work.

A bug was fixed in 1.2.6 that IMO looks like it may be the one that causes the strange frame jump/speed up when an MKV with DTS is remuxed.

I'll report back my findings on DTS MKVs soon! (I'll go see if the movies I have still jump)

ps. I'm not sure what is new in version 1.2.10 yet?

[Sean6293]

Just to update, I went ahead and replaced the tsremuxer.exe in the tools folder with an up to date one and it seems to work ok! (sorry 3r1c I was eager to update and see if it worked!)

I noticed you were using version 1.2.0 in MKV2VOB 1.52,



A bug was fixed in 1.2.6 that IMO looks like it may be the one that causes the strange frame jump/speed up when an MKV with DTS is remuxed.

I'll report back my findings on DTS MKVs soon! (I'll go see if the movies I have still jump)

ps. I'm not sure what is new in version 1.2.10 yet?

will this fix the audio sync issue with certain mkv's?

[lchiu7]

What are you using to convert the AC3 to AAC? Something I would like to try and experiment with, but haven't found an elegant solution that is VISTA happy.

I just found eac3to and it does it in one step

eac3to %1.ac3 stdout.wav | neroaacenc -ignorelength -if - -lc -br 128000 -of %2.mp4

The resulting MP4 file (aac) is PS3 compliant.

And it works under Vista

[Audioboxer]

will this fix the audio sync issue with certain mkv's?

I'm not sure what issue you mean, but the issue with MKV files with DTS audio doesn't seem to be fixed.

My copy of the matrix still suffers from the video speeding up at parts, but the audio remaining the same. (happens with Ratatouille and POTC as well)

:(

[jamos]

i figured out my problem, i was running out of hard drive space..


but my problem now is.... the program is using my C:\ to place the temporary files into (like the audio streams etc)

but my c:\ is packed... i was hoping it would use the drive im saving to to place all those temp files into D:\ since that has 50gbs of free space


anyway in telling it where to put the temp files??

read up this thread there is a post that I made on how to do this.:rolleyes:

[jamos]

Great news about ff/rw working.

1. Multiple audio tracks.
2. Splitter for external HD (fat32)
3. Batch or Job Que

.. and let me know where to send the donation. :-)

multiple audio tracks will not work with a XMB type file you would have to burn a AVCHD to get that.

[azyd]

has any 1 tryed to remux the matrix (The.Matrix.1999.720p.HDDVD.DTS.x264-ESiR.mkv) im havin problems with it, it doesnt play right and i get an error right in the middle of the fight scene between neo and morpheus. i remuxed it twice and i get the same problem. i allso tried it with the new txmuxer from, the one that Audioboxer posted. so........

if any one has any insight in to this, please lay it on me......

[Audioboxer]

has any 1 tryed to remux the matrix (The.Matrix.1999.720p.HDDVD.DTS.x264-ESiR.mkv) im havin problems with it, it doesnt play right and i get an error right in the middle of the fight scene between neo and morpheus. i remuxed it twice and i get the same problem. i allso tried it with the new txmuxer from, the one that Audioboxer posted. so........

if any one has any insight in to this, please lay it on me......

That is the movie im having my DTS issues with (same release).

What happens is the video speed up symptoms I described earlier and it ocassionly crashes during speed up sections. It displays an error saying something like "this content cannot be played".

I actually watched the whole movie last night without it crashing on me though, all I suffered from was video speed up fairly frequently.

[Audioboxer]

Ok I've fixed DTS issues causing video speed up...

However I had to use GOTSent beta 10 to do this.

GOTSent offers a mux to vob option, but the suprising thing is it produces a .mpg file not .VOB.

There are some differences though,

Audio is 5.1 AC3, but it is like 348bit, instead of 640bit like 3r1c changed it to in an MKV2VOB update.

GOTSent uses h264info 12, MKV2VOB 13.

GOTSent also uses something different to change to 5.1 AC3 than MKV2VOB uses (different app).

I know this is your topic about MKV2VOB 3r1c, but im sure you don't mind me discussing things like this if it leads to DTS MKVs working better with MKV2VOB :)

For the record with GOTSent I manually updated it to tsMuxer 1.2.10 before running it.

[Sean6293]

I'm not sure what issue you mean, but the issue with MKV files with DTS audio doesn't seem to be fixed.

My copy of the matrix still suffers from the video speeding up at parts, but the audio remaining the same. (happens with Ratatouille and POTC as well)

:(

thats the file i'm having problems with. the matrix. also a copy of starwars ESB and jedi (a new hope worked fine) the problem is always the same, the video stutters right at the opening of the film and then catches up and plays smoothly for the rest of the film, except that the video is about 5-10seconds behind the audio. :(

[Sean6293]

Ok I've fixed DTS issues causing video speed up...

However I had to use GOTSent beta 10 to do this.

GOTSent offers a mux to vob option, but the suprising thing is it produces a .mpg file not .VOB.

There are some differences though,

Audio is 5.1 AC3, but it is like 348bit, instead of 640bit like 3r1c changed it to in an MKV2VOB update.

GOTSent uses h264info 12, MKV2VOB 13.

GOTSent also uses something different to change to 5.1 AC3 than MKV2VOB uses (different app).

I know this is your topic about MKV2VOB 3r1c, but im sure you don't mind me discussing things like this if it leads to DTS MKVs working better with MKV2VOB :)

For the record with GOTSent I manually updated it to tsMuxer 1.2.10 before running it.i'l try my problem files with gotsent .23 beta 10 and see how it comes out. thanks.

[azyd]

thanks for the info Audioboxer, ill try to see if i can get it to work as soon as i can.....


just for the record i think that GOTSent is a complete copy of MKV2VOB.....


Thanks for all the hard work 3r1c!!!!!!

[Audioboxer]

thanks for the info Audioboxer, ill try to see if i can get it to work as soon as i can.....


just for the record i think that GOTSent is a complete copy of MKV2VOB.....


Thanks for all the hard work 3r1c!!!!!!

They are similar, but do some slightly different things & have slightly different pros & cons.

Also they seem to use different apps in certain places.

With the Matrix the file is smaller with GOTSent but that is because it uses a lower bitrate of AC3.

Anyone know why it outputs to MPG as well when the option says mux to VOB?

3r1c would using .MPG make any difference with MKV2VOB?

ps. It is definitely NOT transcoding either before anyone asks, does the whole process in about 10 mins which is the same amount of time MKV2VOB takes.

Also mediainfo reports "AVC video and AC3 audio", just like it does with an MKV2VOB VOB file.

[Sean6293]

i'l try my problem files with gotsent .23 beta 10 and see how it comes out. thanks.tried it. didn't take very long to complete (maybe 35minutes). i get video/audio on my pc when playing with vlc media player. when i stream it to the ps3 i get audio but no video. however when i hit select while playing the video it shows up to 20mbps for video... wtf?

[Kurenai]

few questions for the creator of this program

1. Is batch encoding possible i have over 80 mkv waiting to be converted i just want to leave it running overnight.

2. Does this program have multithreaded support im using a mac pro in xp and i wanted to take advantage of all 8 cores if possible.... is there some sort of tweak i can do.

3. Can this program run in linux may be under wine or something cause i hate windows...... xp not so much but vista is total garbage.

Thanks again for such a wonderful program
ps. ill take any help i can get.

[Audioboxer]

tried it. didn't take very long to complete (maybe 35minutes). i get video/audio on my pc when playing with vlc media player. when i stream it to the ps3 i get audio but no video. however when i hit select while playing the video it shows up to 20mbps for video... wtf?

Matrix works streaming for me.

All I did was download beta 10, then add tsMuxeR.exe from 1.2.10 to the TS folder in GOTSent.

In GOTSent itself, I checked mux to vob and UNCHECKED split > 4GB ?

Output for the matrix was a 6.46GB MPG file (as I've said earlier, I have no idea why it is not a VOB file but hey it works, and it has 5.1 AC3)

Oh I forgot, one thing I done with the Matrix was open it in mkvtoolnix (mkvmerge) and uncheck everything apart from the top two

V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
A_DTS

and then go to start muxing to re-create the mkv.

Reason being the Matrix DTS rip we are talking about comes with subs/VOB audio voice over commentary which none of us really need.

Maybe GOTSent won't work unless you deselect everything you don't need and re-create the MKV with main video/audio only.

Sorry, I should of said I done that - The only reason I did is I keep all my MKV files on my PC, and doing this removes about 400-600MB from the MKV which = more space for me.

mkvtoolnix - http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/

(for anyone interested I tried MKV2VOB with the Matrix WITH and WITHOUT alterations made to the mkv to remove additional content, and both times it still had the video stuttering issue)

[kazuo]

I'm not sure what issue you mean, but the issue with MKV files with DTS audio doesn't seem to be fixed.

My copy of the matrix still suffers from the video speeding up at parts, but the audio remaining the same. (happens with Ratatouille and POTC as well)

:(

I've seen this "skipping" happen with a number of movies I converted. However, when I watch the same scene again on my computer (not PS3), it plays back just fine (tried it with VLC).

It's odd though because the audio stays in sync, but the video has that "catch up" skip to it.

[Audioboxer]

I've seen this "skipping" happen with a number of movies I converted. However, when I watch the same scene again on my computer (not PS3), it plays back just fine (tried it with VLC).

It's odd though because the audio stays in sync, but the video has that "catch up" skip to it.

Yup that is the exact symptoms, it doesn't do it on the PC, only PS3.

Can you confirm if the movies you were watching were DTS or not? For me it only seems to happen with DTS MKVs, AC3 5.1 MKVs seem to work fine.

[azyd]

Yup that is the exact symptoms, it doesn't do it on the PC, only PS3.

Can you confirm if the movies you were watching were DTS or not? For me it only seems to happen with DTS MKVs, AC3 5.1 MKVs seem to work fine.

im trying right now an other method to see if i can get rid of the skipping..... im still useing mkv2vob but im extracting the dts audio from the mkv manually converting it to ac3 then remuxing it and replaceing the dts in the mkv file to get a brand new mkv with ac3 audio.... trying a smaller movie that gave me the same problem as the matrix (Rambo.First.Blood.1982.HDDVDRiP.720p.DTS-ES.x264-DEFiNiTiON) will let know if it works should be done in 20 min(i burn mine to dvdr, dont have a router)

[kazuo]

Yup that is the exact symptoms, it doesn't do it on the PC, only PS3.

Can you confirm if the movies you were watching were DTS or not? For me it only seems to happen with DTS MKVs, AC3 5.1 MKVs seem to work fine.

Yes, the only movies that has happened to me were originally DTS. FYI, I've only noticed the skipping on certain "scene changes". I found that odd. (Only saw the "speed ups" in one scene, but once the scene changes, the skipping disappeared.)

It seems pretty rare. I tried it with both 1080p and 720p DTS movies. The DLNA server I'm running it from (Mediatomb on FreeBSD) is currently only on 10/100Mbit. The rest of our network is GigE... but I'm still waiting for my GigE card to come in so I can throw it in the box (if it is network related at all).

But I guess some people also said they're seeing this skipping/speed up issue when playing movies locally? :(

[rahzel]

the latest version of GOTSent supports ff/rw, btw. and yeah, it muxes to MPG rather than VOB. and does it really change the bitrate? i didn't even notice that.

hopefully 3r1c can get mkv2vob to do the same.

edit: nope, the videos i did with GOTSent retained the 640kbps audio. this is what mediainfo says about the file.

[Audioboxer]

im trying right now an other method to see if i can get rid of the skipping..... im still useing mkv2vob but im extracting the dts audio from the mkv manually converting it to ac3 then remuxing it and replaceing the dts in the mkv file to get a brand new mkv with ac3 audio.... trying a smaller movie that gave me the same problem as the matrix (Rambo.First.Blood.1982.HDDVDRiP.720p.DTS-ES.x264-DEFiNiTiON) will let know if it works should be done in 20 min(i burn mine to dvdr, dont have a router)

Keep me updated!

(My copy of the Matrix done is GOTSent doesn't work overall by the way, the audio cuts out after 12~13 mins for no reason :/ It did eliminate video skipping though - First scene it happens at with MKV2VOB for me is when Neo is woken up by his computer and answers the door to give the weird folk a disc for money - Sound is working at that point as it is about 7/8 mins into the movie)

[Audioboxer]

the latest version of GOTSent supports ff/rw, btw.

hopefully 3r1c can get mkv2vob to do the same.

he already has :/

both mkv2vob and GOTSent use tsmuxer now.

[azyd]

well..... the mkv with the ac3 didnt work any better. i used the ac3 the mkv2vob created. so there might be a problem with the high bit rate so im using thrid party software to convert the dts to ac3 and see what happens. im encoding it to 448 hopefully that will fix the problem

[rahzel]

he already has :/

both mkv2vob and GOTSent use tsmuxer now.
really? oops, sorry. TBH, i haven't been following this thread lately as i've been busy... must have missed the update.
thanks.

[Audioboxer]

well..... the mkv with the ac3 didnt work any better. i used the ac3 the mkv2vob created. so there might be a problem with the high bit rate so im using thrid party software to convert the dts to ac3 and see what happens. im encoding it to 448 hopefully that will fix the problem

Video still skipping/jumping? :(

I hope 3r1c comes on soon to give us some insight into what could be causing this. I hate spending hours remuxing stuff trying different things to epicly fail in the end :P

As for high birate being the issue I'll test that now.... POTC, The Curse of the Black Pearl is a high bitrate 720p movie for me that comes with AC3 5.1 audio - I'll convert it with MKV2VOB and see if it lags/skips.

I think it is a higher bitrate than the Matrix, so if it doesn't lag/skip it must be an issue with DTS audio being converted to AC3 and being packaged with tsmuxer into a VOB file.

I also think the very fact a GOTSent convert of the Matrix doesn't lag proves the bitrate of the movie isn't the issue, it's something to do with DTS audio and they way it is handled in the conversion to AC3.

[azyd]

Video still skipping/jumping? :(

I hope 3r1c comes on soon to give us some insight into what could be causing this. I hate spending hours remuxing stuff trying different things to epicly fail in the end :P

yeah...... im useing Rambo.First.Blood.1982.HDDVDRiP.720p.DTS-ES.x264-DEFiNiTiON.mkv. im remuxing the new ac3 i created(448) with the mkv and as soon as its done ill run it through mkv2vob and see whathappens.:confused:

[Audioboxer]

yeah...... im useing Rambo.First.Blood.1982.HDDVDRiP.720p.DTS-ES.x264-DEFiNiTiON.mkv. im remuxing the new ac3 i created(448) with the mkv and as soon as its done ill run it through mkv2vob and see whathappens.:confused:

Ok keep us updated. I still think it's going to skip/jump though.

Are you using tsmuxer 1.2.10 with MK2VOB by the way?

MKV2VOB uses 1.2.0 in 1.52 - You have manually update the exe to 1.2.10 in the tools folder that comes with GOTSent.

There has been quite a few fixes from 1.2.0, one which looks like it had something to do with frame skipping.

http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.2.10.zip

[azyd]

well it looks like it worked watching Rambo now with no glitches of any kind, so far. im going to try matrix see if i can reproduce the effects.

audio seems a little low...... might have to tweak the gain

[Audioboxer]

well it looks like it worked watching Rambo now with no glitches of any kind, so far. im going to try matrix see if i can reproduce the effects.

audio seems a little low...... might have to tweak the gain

So what did you do, in "noob" friendly steps? ;)

Thanks

Also does the Matrix work?

Hopefully 3r1c can look into this and see what is causing the glitches with DTS sound in MKV2VOB - At least we know it can work.

[jamos]

So what did you do, in "noob" friendly steps? ;)

Thanks

Also does the Matrix work?

Hopefully 3r1c can look into this and see what is causing the glitches with DTS sound in MKV2VOB - At least we know it can work.

I have never had issues with dts sources and skipping with mkv2vob. On that matter I do not use mkv2vob recently for dts sources I do the steps manually myself. The only difference between the way I do it and mkv2vob does is first I use the latest version of Tsmuxer and 2nd I use the azidts method of converting dts to ac3. I would suggest everyone replace the older version of tsmuxer.exe and its runtime files with the latest ones in the mkv2vob\tools directory and see if the skipping goes away. Do not just copy the tsmuxer.exe alone.

Also I am assuming it is skipping on your computer as well as you PS3. If it is just skipping on your PS3 and you are streaming it from your computer then it is your network not being able to keep up with the stream. You must copy the video to your PS3 harddrive and play it there for a accurate report for what is happening.

[3r1c]

V1.5.3 03/Feb/2008
Improved MPEG2 Transcoding, should fix freeze at the start and out of sync.
Updated tsmuxer to latest version

[rahzel]

thanks for the update 3r1c. :)

[Audioboxer]

I have never had issues with dts sources and skipping with mkv2vob. On that matter I do not use mkv2vob recently for dts sources I do the steps manually myself. The only difference between the way I do it and mkv2vob does is first I use the latest version of Tsmuxer and 2nd I use the azidts method of converting dts to ac3. I would suggest everyone replace the older version of tsmuxer.exe and its runtime files with the latest ones in the mkv2vob\tools directory and see if the skipping goes away. Do not just copy the tsmuxer.exe alone.

Also I am assuming it is skipping on your computer as well as you PS3. If it is just skipping on your PS3 and you are streaming it from your computer then it is your network not being able to keep up with the stream. You must copy the video to your PS3 harddrive and play it there for a accurate report for what is happening.

and 2nd I use the azidts method of converting dts to ac3

How do I do this? Thanks

And as for streaming, yeah I am, but I've tested it over a wired network (easily fast enough to handle HD content).

It's not skipping like you'd think - Where audio and video jump, it's just the video that jumps/speeds up, audio stays perfect.

Funny thing though, it doesn't skip on the PC, just the PS3.

Lastly I've just watched POTC (AC3 5.1), roughly 7.5-8MBPS and it works perfectly, so it can't be an issue of a high bitrate. It's something to do with the conversion of DTS to AC3 the PS3 doesn't like.

What do you use to convert DTS to AC3 3r1c and is there any other way you can do it in MKV2VOB?

[Audioboxer]

I've manually converted the DTS audio to AC3 by doing the following,

1) MKVextract used to seperate .DTS and Video
2) Tranzcode 0.4 to seperate DTS to 6 mono channels (WAV)
3) WAV to AC3 Encoder 1.1 to create 6 Channel AC3
4) MKVmerge to create MKV of original video plus newly created AC3 track

I'm now running this new MKV through MKV2VOB.

I tested it before running through MKV2VOB on the PC and audio works fine as AC3 and is in-sync.

I'll report my findings on video/audio playback through the PS3 once MKV2VOB is done.

[kazuo]

Also I am assuming it is skipping on your computer as well as you PS3. If it is just skipping on your PS3 and you are streaming it from your computer then it is your network not being able to keep up with the stream. You must copy the video to your PS3 harddrive and play it there for a accurate report for what is happening.

Since 3r1c updated to the latest tsmuxer, I'll try to run one of my DTS movies through it again and check it out. Thanks all!

[Audioboxer]

Since 3r1c updated to the latest tsmuxer, I'll try to run one of my DTS movies through it again and check it out. Thanks all!

I already manually updated to latest tsmuxer, and it made no difference to the issues experienced with DTS. (mkv2vob 1.5.2 with tsmuxer 1.2.10)

By all means check the new build though, since no doubt 3r1c tweaked with some other stuff.

About to playback my copy of the Matrix which I manually converted DTS to AC3 on... I'll report back in 5.

[Audioboxer]

FIXED MY DTS ISSUES! :D

I've manually converted the DTS audio to AC3 by doing the following,

1) MKVextract used to seperate .DTS and Video (I used MKVextract GUI)
2) Tranzcode 0.4 to seperate DTS to 6 WAV mono channels (I used TranzGUI)
3) WAV to AC3 Encoder 1.1 to create 6 Channel AC3 (use MuxWizard under file to insert WAVS & then make sure you set the bitrate to 640 on the slider, then hit encode)
4) MKVmerge to create new MKV file of original video plus newly created AC3 track

The VOB file I created of the Matrix plays fine with no graphical speed ups - I've tested it at a part near the beginning that always jumped/sped up previously, and it doesn't anymore.

I now have a 5.1 AC3 VOB that works great :cool:

I'm not sure what you can do 3r1c, I noticed MKV2VOB does a similar thing to what I done myself, it extracts 6 mono WAV files and changes them to AC3... however one of the apps you use must be conflicting somehow with the PS3 - Your DTS MKV to VOB output works fine on the PC, but when played back on the PS3 it has graphical issues - The speed up that's been mentioned.

If anyone has issues with a DTS MKV, use the method above until 3r1c can cook something up - I'm sure there may be other manual methods/easier ways to do it yourself, but my method 100% works.

For the record, I used MKV2VOB 1.5.3 on my created MKV with AC3 audio.

Also to make things a little easier here are the apps I used in one rar - http://www.mediafire.com/?29dclihdiyg (grab mkv2vob from post 1 :P)

(I'll also be testing some other DTS MKVs I've had issues with tomorrow)

[rahzel]

from my personal experience using GOTSent and MKV2VOB, here are the differences/similarities i noticed.

-both do not transcode video or audio (mkv has the option to, gotsent does not). i have not tried a video that contains DTS, only AC3 640kbps.

-for MKV/AVC w/AC3, both tools use the exact same methods (mkvextract -> h264info -> tsremuxer) however, using the latest versions of the respective tools, GS uses h264info v0.12 and M2V uses v0.13. GS uses tsmuxer v1.2.9 and M2V uses v1.2.10 (is this a newer version?)
regarding h264info, isn't there a newer version available? do the newer versions make incompatible video files?

-M2V muxes to VOB and GS muxes to MPG. i'm guessing GS muxes to MPG possibly because its a more compatible container maybe?

one thing i must comment on, though, is that i found that GS processed my test video in less time than M2V did (3-4m vs 10m). or is it just me?

[3r1c]

Actually both mkv2vob and gotsent both mux to m2ts.
The only difference is the file extension which doesnt mean much, the ps3 doesnt care about the extension.

[chiefj1254]

Is there any way (in a future version, of course) to have mkv2vob tell h264info to check the "Write PPS every picture" box when transcoding? From what I've read on converting mkvs for PS3 playback, this helps allow FF/RW in the files that result. Alternatively, is there a way to set default options in h264info so it opens with the box checked each time?

Thanks in advance for any help with this, and thanks for the great utility!

[rahzel]

Actually both mkv2vob and gotsent both mux to m2ts.
The only difference is the file extension which doesnt mean much, the ps3 doesnt care about the extension.
i was thinking more about the compatibility with computers, for if they want to preview the output. wouldn't some people run into less problems if the extension is MPG rather than VOB? i know most people here wouldn't have an issue, but to the average joe maybe?

[oszy]

Thanks to 3r1c for this great tool.

I have a question. Why is it so, that the earlier V1.4.1 mkv2vob is making a 4.3 GB vob from my 4.3 GB size mkv files, and the new V1.5.X versions are making a double size 8.6 GB file.
I've tried out Gotsent also, and that one is making a 4.3 GB file working on my PS3.

Sorry for my bad english.

[Quatre]

They are similar, but do some slightly different things & have slightly different pros & cons.

Also they seem to use different apps in certain places.

With the Matrix the file is smaller with GOTSent but that is because it uses a lower bitrate of AC3.

Anyone know why it outputs to MPG as well when the option says mux to VOB?

3r1c would using .MPG make any difference with MKV2VOB?

ps. It is definitely NOT transcoding either before anyone asks, does the whole process in about 10 mins which is the same amount of time MKV2VOB takes.

Also mediainfo reports "AVC video and AC3 audio", just like it does with an MKV2VOB VOB file.

its still an AVC file the extension doesnt matter. mkv2vob just makes .vob for all but you can change it to .mpg or .m2ts (and pobably other extensions)

i used to change it to .mpg to test on pc cus .vob didn't work but now i think most mkv2vob files wont play right on the pc anyway and you really have to test on teh ps3 since that is the intended player for these files and wha the prog is made for.

As suggested previously by someone I would second the request to have mkv2vob change the file extension depending if it transcodes or not. ie. if it transcodes to mpeg-2 then have it make the extension .mpg

and actually if it just remuxes it , we could stick with .vob but that confused a lot of ppl that heard about the prog that it was changing the hd mkv to a standard def .vob dvd file. maybe .m2ts or mts would be beter as those are the 2 main extensions for an AVC file that I am aware of and that is what it makes if it just remuxes it, an AVC file and what the ps3 detects it as.

but then i guess the prog would have to be called mkv2avc. but tht would be sweet, heh, mkv2avc/mpeg-2 and it either makes a .m2ts or a .mpg file from the .mkv

either way someting diff for the transcode to mpeg-2 then the remux would help if you dont watch what it does then at least by looking at the resulting file you know. though i guess you can just put it in a prog like Super to see if it is mpeg-2 or not and the size iwll usually give it away, plus on ps3 it will say mpeg2 or avc depending on whether mkv2vob had to transcode the fiile or not.

[pepperisback]

My question is:
Could there be in the future a solution to watch 1080P files without transcoding to mpeg2 because it tooks a very long time to transcode these files and they are also very large.

[tiagodm]

hi 3r1c. I was wondering if there is *any* application to mux subtitles into the vob file. I searched (googled) every subject about it but I can't find a way that does it without transcoding files (and keeping 720p). That would be a "must have" for many many people. If you find something could you post it here?

Thankx in advance,

Tiago

[Franke73]

First of all i want to take my hat of to 3r1c for making this app. thats so useful to so many of us. Thanks!!!

Then i would like to join tiagodm in the hunt for the subtitle-tracks-mux into the produced vob.

[Numer0bis]

nah i don't think subtitles are a must have what really was a must have: seeking support and it was added, thank god. I thought it was not possible but it seems I was wrong :-)

[estebanzia]

First of all i want to take my hat of to 3r1c for making this app. thats so useful to so many of us. Thanks!!!

Then i would like to join tiagodm in the hunt for the subtitle-tracks-mux into the produced vob.
Totally agree!Most mkv videos have subtitles tracks and having them(and why not multiple audio tracks?) in the produced vob would make this app absolutely perfect!

[jamos]

My question is:
Could there be in the future a solution to watch 1080P files without transcoding to mpeg2 because it tooks a very long time to transcode these files and they are also very large.

I highly doubt it as the ps3 only supports 4 frames/ref. so until the PS3 firmware can support this we will have to reencode.

[jamos]

Totally agree!Most mkv videos have subtitles tracks and having them(and why not multiple audio tracks?) in the produced vob would make this app absolutely perfect!

unless you force the subtitle you cannot have one. By force I mean it is on all the time and then you would have to reencode to do this. The PS3 does not support subtitle selection or multiple audio tracks in video files. Please guys stop asking for things that the PS3 cannot do I see some 10 posts on this.

[jamos]

hi 3r1c. I was wondering if there is *any* application to mux subtitles into the vob file. I searched (googled) every subject about it but I can't find a way that does it without transcoding files (and keeping 720p). That would be a "must have" for many many people. If you find something could you post it here?

Thankx in advance,

Tiago

to force subtitles you would have to transcode. you can mux subtitles into a m2ts file but then you would have to burn a AVCHD disk and they do not play so well on the ps3 from my testing.

[jamos]

from my personal experience using GOTSent and MKV2VOB, here are the differences/similarities i noticed.

-both do not transcode video or audio (mkv has the option to, gotsent does not). i have not tried a video that contains DTS, only AC3 640kbps.

-for MKV/AVC w/AC3, both tools use the exact same methods (mkvextract -> h264info -> tsremuxer) however, using the latest versions of the respective tools, GS uses h264info v0.12 and M2V uses v0.13. GS uses tsmuxer v1.2.9 and M2V uses v1.2.10 (is this a newer version?)
regarding h264info, isn't there a newer version available? do the newer versions make incompatible video files?

-M2V muxes to VOB and GS muxes to MPG. i'm guessing GS muxes to MPG possibly because its a more compatible container maybe?

one thing i must comment on, though, is that i found that GS processed my test video in less time than M2V did (3-4m vs 10m). or is it just me?


muxing to vob or mpg is the same and both are just as compatable. newer versions of h264info do not fix anything that mkv2vob needs. not sure why one would be faster than the other.

[rahzel]

muxing to vob or mpg is the same and both are just as compatable. newer versions of h264info do not fix anything that mkv2vob needs. not sure why one would be faster than the other.
as i said after that particular post, by compatibility, i meant with PC's. most people, especially here, won't have a problem playing VOB files, but MPG is just a more common extension. not everyone with a ps3 is as knowledgeable as the people here at doom9, so some people may not be able to play vob files.

as for speed, i've done a few videos and i don't know why, but GS was definitely faster. the last two steps in particular (h264info -> tsmuxer) seemed to go faster with GS.

[shlap]

@3r1c

is it possible to have a command line interface ?

mkv2vob -i input.mkv -o output.vob (or .m2t)

the human intervention is really limited.. so it can be done par command line, and it will be easier to use in a script..

This would be perfect! I'd love to add mkv2vob to my batch file so that it wouldn't require manual pointing and clicking the morning after my file is done encoding to mkv. Could we please get this?

[jamos]

This would be perfect! I'd love to add mkv2vob to my batch file so that it wouldn't require manual pointing and clicking the morning after my file is done encoding to mkv. Could we please get this?

yes a command line would be helpful.

[asif9t9]

Poor 3rc1. I think this thread is going to get out of control with noobs like me.

So far everything works great for me. My only issues...

1. mkv2vob doesn't need to resolve the subtitle issue. But how do you hardcode subs without losing quality? Is that just "imposssible"?

2. I had one problem with a Ratatouille mkv. It wouldn't run in mkv2vob because I got an error about an unsupported AAC codec. So I used mkvextract, and changed the AAC to AC3, and used mkvmerge. Nice. Except, now, after running the new mkv file thru mkv2vob, the aspect ratio isn't right. Instead of 2.35:1, the video plays stretched top to bottom, filling the 16:9 screen (everyone is tall and skinny). The mkv file with the new AC3 audio plays with the proper default aspect ratio, on my PC. But the new vob, after running mkv2vob, plays on my PC or on the PS3 with a 16:9 ratio.

3. Not sure if you know, but some old receivers are not capable of handling high audio bitrates, like 640kbps. Would everyone hate if the default was to reduce the audio to 384kbps all the time?

[Quatre]

yeah too many requests especially for stuff that not everyone needs or wants.

If your receiver doesn't do 640kbps (though i never heard of that) then i'm sure it will still play just at a lower so why not have it default to the higher bit rate so that if your receiver can it will. I doubt if your receiver doesnt do that higher bitrate that you get no sound, you get sound i'm sure just downed to a lower bitrate? so why ruin it for the majority that it works fine.

Subtitle requests get too crazy. Its kind of a prog for english speaking hence english movies with no subs or if its another language it will do the english subs. basically if the movie has it in them already it will have them. i think adding subs of your own is not part of the responsibility of this prog and something youd do the the original mkv or vob on your own.

pretty much the best most reasonable request right now is to have mkv2vob make the remuxed file a .m2ts (since it is avc) or keep it as .vob and have the files that are transcode to mpeg-2 come out as a .mpg

that way if you set auto and were away during the process you can tell what it did by the output file extension.

there are progs you can put the file in though to see what it is and can just rename the extension yourself like i sometimes do, plus the ps3 labels in AVC or mpeg-2 so you will know then.

so even this request to have it output diff extension depending on which it did is minor and not that important.

should prob let him focus on getting it working with more and more types of mkv files and work out some of the bugs and nuances. already some great improvements and its pretty damn good. too many requests for obscure options and things could end up messing up the small simple and properly working program.

[3r1c]

Poor 3rc1. I think this thread is going to get out of control with noobs like me.

So far everything works great for me. My only issues...

1. mkv2vob doesn't need to resolve the subtitle issue. But how do you hardcode subs without losing quality? Is that just "imposssible"?

2. I had one problem with a Ratatouille mkv. It wouldn't run in mkv2vob because I got an error about an unsupported AAC codec. So I used mkvextract, and changed the AAC to AC3, and used mkvmerge. Nice. Except, now, after running the new mkv file thru mkv2vob, the aspect ratio isn't right. Instead of 2.35:1, the video plays stretched top to bottom, filling the 16:9 screen (everyone is tall and skinny). The mkv file with the new AC3 audio plays with the proper default aspect ratio, on my PC. But the new vob, after running mkv2vob, plays on my PC or on the PS3 with a 16:9 ratio.

3. Not sure if you know, but some old receivers are not capable of handling high audio bitrates, like 640kbps. Would everyone hate if the default was to reduce the audio to 384kbps all the time?

1. mkv2vob does not support subtitles.
2. this is because you set wrong aspect ratio when you used mkvmerge
3. mine is 4-5 years old and handles it fine

[kazuo]

If there is any "feature" that's needed for mkv2vob, I'd have to agree with Jamos (and many others) is have command-line support. There's really no need to go with all out batch support mode. I believe many of us can create our own batch process if mkv2vob has basic command line support (-in=file.mkv/-out=file.vob/-mode=[auto/forcetranscode/notranscode], etc).

Still a great little tool nonetheless. Keep up the good work :)

[Thunder2001]

I have also an old sony 840 receiver ad he works fine. :) No Problem with 640kbps.

[Quatre]

with the new version mkv2vob 1.5.3 using tsMuxeR version 1.2.10
is it normal for the dos window running tsMuxeR to just be open and it says:

Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.1 Resolution: 1280:544p Frame rate: 23.976fps

but i dont see any progress like I did with the old vesion. jus a blinking cursor. is it done? is it still decoding? is this normal?

also can you run 2 instances of mkv2vob?

ran another instance of mkv2vob and seems to be working fine and got past that decoding point though it says 0.0% for decoding the h264 stream but continued on to decode the ac3 stream.

so is it safe to assume the one that is frozen tht just says decoding h264 stream but no progress and just a blinking cursor that it didnt' work. guess i better find out what is wrong with that mkv tht stumps mkv2vob

[Quatre]

this file seems to just freeze mkv2vob in the tsremux dos screen and shows no progress.

Donnie.Darko.2001.720p.x264.mkv
Format : Mk
File size : 4.36 GiB
PlayTime : 1h 53mn
Bit rate : 5520 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2006-04-26 22:02:32
Writing application : mkvmerge v1.6.5 ('Watcher Of The Skies') built on Dec 7 2005 18:53:53
Writing library : libebml v0.7.6 + libmatroska v0.8.0

Video #0
Codec : MPEG-4 AVC
Codec/Info : MPEG4 ISO advanced profile
PlayTime : 1h 53mn
Width : 1280 pixels
Height : 544 pixels
Display Aspect ratio : 2.35
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Language : English

Audio #0
Codec : AC3
Codec/Info : Dolby AC3
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Language : English

[Dagobert]

I keep getting a muxing failed error.

As soon as it reaches 100% in the command prompt, it opens that h264info thing and then I get that generic windows encountered a problem... send error report or don't send.

And after I close that window it says "muxing failed"

[rahzel]

hate to drag GOTSent back into this thread, but another difference i found between the two (i think Audiobox alluded to this earlier) is that when you mux a file with dts to vob/mpg, mkv2vob converts the dts to 640kbps ac3 whereas gotsent converts it 448kbps. as mentioned earlier, most receivers should be able to play 640kbps ac3 no problem.

[Audioboxer]

this file seems to just freeze mkv2vob in the tsremux dos screen and shows no progress.

Donnie.Darko.2001.720p.HDTV.x264-THOR.mkv
Format : Mk
File size : 4.36 GiB
PlayTime : 1h 53mn
Bit rate : 5520 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2006-04-26 22:02:32
Writing application : mkvmerge v1.6.5 ('Watcher Of The Skies') built on Dec 7 2005 18:53:53
Writing library : libebml v0.7.6 + libmatroska v0.8.0

Video #0
Codec : MPEG-4 AVC
Codec/Info : MPEG4 ISO advanced profile
PlayTime : 1h 53mn
Width : 1280 pixels
Height : 544 pixels
Display Aspect ratio : 2.35
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Language : English

Audio #0
Codec : AC3
Codec/Info : Dolby AC3
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Language : English

I know this sounds daft, but download mkvmerge, open the MKV and then save it again (start muxing) under a new filename.

Run this newly built MKV through MKV2VOB and see what happens.

[hexperience]

unless you force the subtitle you cannot have one. By force I mean it is on all the time and then you would have to reencode to do this. The PS3 does not support subtitle selection or multiple audio tracks in video files. Please guys stop asking for things that the PS3 cannot do I see some 10 posts on this.


You can have multiple audio tracks in an MP4. I assume not in a vob/mpg. I wonder if it's actually been tried though.

[Colin_S]

First of all fan-fecken-tastic prog, thank you very much. I feel like i should give you money for this.

I have 1 issue, i have a 1080 file that gets a "Muxing error" message and the program terminates. Any thoughts?

[Quatre]

I know this sounds daft, but download mkvmerge, open the MKV and then save it again (start muxing) under a new filename.

Run this newly built MKV through MKV2VOB and see what happens.

i guess just renaming the orig mkv wont work and plus mkv2vob fixed problem with long filenames. what does opening it in mkv merge and saving it under a diff name do exactly?

i will give it a try.

[rahzel]

well it looks like it worked watching Rambo now with no glitches of any kind, so far. im going to try matrix see if i can reproduce the effects.

audio seems a little low...... might have to tweak the gain
+1
i just recently did a movie containing DTS audio, and i also found the audio is a little low. 3r1c, is it possible to play with the gain for the next release?

[Dagobert]

I finally got mkv2vob to remux the file but I get a .vob file that's 0 bytes.

[Quatre]

will a
Blu-Ray 1080p AVC DTS-HD MA 5.1
h.264 file play on ps3?

if not can mkv2vob do anything with it? if not what prog. since its an avc id think it could work and even 360 does some types of h.264 but i wonder if it will work or just be more trouble then x264 .mkv

[x400]

read up this thread there is a post that I made on how to do this.:rolleyes:

ah yeah, thanks a lot ;) guess i got lazy hehe

[Teahupo]

I'm using this program very sucessfully thanks.

I have an mkv with multiple audio tracks. The Track I want to keep is not the first one that mkv2vob picks to remux. How can I get it to select the right audio track?

[azyd]

I'm using this program very sucessfully thanks.

I have an mkv with multiple audio tracks. The Track I want to keep is not the first one that mkv2vob picks to remux. How can I get it to select the right audio track?


use mkvtoolnix and you can remove the rest of the tracks on the list and make the track you want the default track, then just save the file and you have your self a new mkv with the prorper track.

[Teahupo]

Thanks. I have an irrational fear of command line driven programs. Is there a tool with a GUI I can use instead?

[B4tm4n]

mkvtoolnix has a gui. http://www.videohelp.com/tools/MKVExtractGUI

[jamos]

will a
Blu-Ray 1080p AVC DTS-HD MA 5.1
h.264 file play on ps3?

if not can mkv2vob do anything with it? if not what prog. since its an avc id think it could work and even 360 does some types of h.264 but i wonder if it will work or just be more trouble then x264 .mkv

What?? no no no.. DTS will not play from a file on the PS3 (mp4, mpeg2, avc). 5.1 h.264 will never play on the ps3 even using a AVCHD.

[Hambone]

Are there settings you can configure anywhere? It seems I don't have enough room in my C drive to convert larger files. I'd like the program to use another partition.

[azyd]

Are there settings you can configure anywhere? It seems I don't have enough room in my C drive to convert larger files. I'd like the program to use another partition.

Go to your system properties, click on the environmental variables and edit user variables as you like.

[Hambone]

Ya, I've already done that, I just wanted to be able to control it through the program.

[db2450]

I transcoded several MKVs with this tool in 2007, but that was before seeking (rast forward/rewind) was added, so is there a way I run the VOB through mkv2vob or transcode the VOB back into a MKV so that I can retranscode to get seeking working?

[azyd]

3r1c


im starting to see a few of these 1080p encodes

We.Own.the.Night.2007.BluRay.1080p.DTS.L4.1.x264-CtrlHD

if i run this through MKV2VOB will it convert the DTS to ac3 and then remux or after converting the DTS will it run trough H264info then remux?

it is 10gigs....... i dont want to waste the download.....

[3r1c]

yes it should play without transcoding.
btw. you can just download the first rar, select "keep broken files" in winrar and try see if it works.

[B4tm4n]

I've tried 1 of these new L4.1 encodes and it plays fine on the PS3 without re-encoding.

[ultratoto14]

I transcoded several MKVs with this tool in 2007, but that was before seeking (rast forward/rewind) was added, so is there a way I run the VOB through mkv2vob or transcode the VOB back into a MKV so that I can retranscode to get seeking working?

Just use the TSMuxerGui, open your vob, select the two streams, save as TS, that's it.

[sportcenter]

everywhere on the net no one seems to know....what is the actual bitrate limit for 1080p?

[3r1c]

There is no maximum bitrate.
Its limited by what your playback hardware can support.
Disc read speed/network/video memory etc...

Blu-ray max bit rate is 40mbit, so its probably best to stay below this.

[Hambone]

Is MKV2VOB considered the best for converting mkv to vob? I have one file that always crashes at the same spot, so it's probably the file. Other files work ok. Just wondering if there's any other program that'll do the same thing that's as good as this one that I can try this problem file on.

[WicKeDcHilD]

Why is the audio so quiet with the last few releases, they never use to be this quiet before.

[rahzel]

is the source DTS? if so, that may be why. i found that when mkv2vob converted the DTS to ac3, it was noticeably quieter than the source.

if its ac3 to begin with, then its probably the source.

[WicKeDcHilD]

it's not the source, i can play them both through the computer and the source is 3x's louder. I'm going to try downloading a AC3 file and see how it sounds.

[jamos]

is the source DTS? if so, that may be why. i found that when mkv2vob converted the DTS to ac3, it was noticeably quieter than the source.

if its ac3 to begin with, then its probably the source.

I use light besweet boost with my DTS sources I think it would be a welcome addition to this program it really makes the audio near identical in level to the DTS source.

-boost( /b2=2 )

[gusf1]

Just to say a massive thanks to 3r1c; the latest version of mkv2vob is perfect for me; I'd be happy to make a donation to help support future developments!

cheers
gus

[jrw]

Latest version is working a lot better for me, the only thing is some of the movies are coming out with lower than normal volume output.

[Quatre]

I've tried 1 of these new L4.1 encodes and it plays fine on the PS3 without re-encoding.

what do you mean? any rels that say L4.1 dont need to be run through mkv2vob at all and the mkv just plays on ps3? or do you just mean you put it through mkv2vob witht he auto (recommended) setting and you see that unlike other 1080p files it doent seem to need to transcode to mpeg-2 on these L4.1 files even if they are 1080p.

but you still need to run it through mkv2vob for the remu right? (which basically just changes the sound)

if this is true then this is great news for ps3 and this prog as it means where as before 99% of 1080p rels had to be transcoded into the mpeg-2 file which took longer and made a 50% larger file now it will be the quick remux and similiar size file.

ie. if given a choice, ps3 owners should select the L4.1 1080p version of a file over other versions correct?

and otherwise if no L4.1 version is available (as that seems to be something new) if you have a choice between and AC3 version and a DTS version of the same video, as a mkv2vob ps3 user, you want to get the AC3 version over the DTS correct? as mkv2vob just remuxes the dts sound to ac3 anyway so by getting a version that is already AC3 you will save yourself/the program some time?

[Quatre]

I use light besweet boost with my DTS sources I think it would be a welcome addition to this program it really makes the audio near identical in level to the DTS source.

-boost( /b2=2 )

this sounds like a good suggestion being several have reported on low volume sound.

[B4tm4n]

what do you mean? any rels that say L4.1 dont need to be run through mkv2vob at all and the mkv just plays on ps3?

I put it through h264info, to add pps, and then remuxed it to a .ts file with tsMuxer and it plays great on a PS3.
tsMuxer says its adding the pps to the stream but doesn't at the moment, but once thats fixed it will be just remux it to a ts file.

[Quatre]

I put it through h264info, to add pps, and then remuxed it to a .ts file with tsMuxer and it plays great on a PS3.
tsMuxer says its adding the pps to the stream but doesn't at the moment, but once thats fixed it will be just remux it to a ts file.

pps?

what do you mean tsMuxer says its adding the pps to the stream but doesnt?

so once its fixed to properly do that you will be able to just run these L4.1 mkv's through tsMuxer to a .ts file and it will play on ps3?

[3r1c]

B4tm4n doesnt know what hes talking about.

The new L4.1 releases are just valid level 4.1 and before most 1080p were not, it still a mkv file and needs to be converted in some way like with mkv2vob.
What it means is they will remux without transcoding to mpeg2.

[Quatre]

B4tm4n doesnt know what hes talking about.

The new L4.1 releases are just valid level 4.1 and before most 1080p were not, it still a mkv file and needs to be converted in some way like with mkv2vob.
What it means is they will remux without transcoding to mpeg2.

ok thankyou for the clarification and that is great news for ps3 and mkv2vob that we will know see more 1080p mkv that dont need the longer process of transcode to mpeg-2 and the larger file size and especially now with ff/rw for avc .vob's muxed from mkv there is no reason do the mpeg-2 unless you have to (like with more 1080p)

problems is i dont seee any L4.1 1080p x264 mkv. hopefully we will start to see more of them

[jamos]

pps?

what do you mean tsMuxer says its adding the pps to the stream but doesnt?

so once its fixed to properly do that you will be able to just run these L4.1 mkv's through tsMuxer to a .ts file and it will play on ps3?

Tsmuxer does not add pps I have to run all my streams through h264info to do this. I think its going to but not currently. mkv2vob does not use the latest version of h264info and the latest version will default to this option being checked but for remuxing it really doesnt have to have it for the ps3. you may just be able to copy the latest version of h264info into tools directory of mkv2vob and it may fix it but have not tried this to see if it breaks anything. but for just remuxing I do not think you need pps every picture, I do know you need it if your going to use it with tsremux to create a Valid bd structure that will play in other players (ie my BDP-S500).

[3r1c]

PPS is not needed for ps3 playback.

Replacing the h264info.exe with the new version most likely wont work, mkv2vob sends control commands to its window, it relies on all the text boxes being in the same positions, it likely wont work with a new version without these commands being changed too.

[Colin_S]

Ok i sorted my remux issue by manually remuxing the file using MKVtoolnix however i have a new problem which i believe must be a first.

My audio is out of sync... by about half an hour!!!!!!

[3r1c]

you probably have a corrupted mkv file

[InterClaw]

Am I the only one who is unable to run this program on Vista x64? I double-click the exe and it briefly shows in the taskbar but immediately closes down, no error sound or anything like that. Just goes away.

It's working on my laptop as it should (Win XP).

I have moved my user folders to another physical drive using the drag'n'drop functionality in Vista. Also, I have rerouted my temp folder(s) to another drive using the environment variables. Could it be because I have Gordian Knot and some other stuff like that installed that it's interfering with it?

[Numer0bis]

Am I the only one who is unable to run this program on Vista x64? I double-click the exe and it briefly shows in the taskbar but immediately closes down, no error sound or anything like that. Just goes away.

It's working on my laptop as it should (Win XP).

I have moved my user folders to another physical drive using the drag'n'drop functionality in Vista. Also, I have rerouted my temp folder(s) to another drive using the environment variables. Could it be because I have Gordian Knot and some other stuff like that installed that it's interfering with it?

I would say that your problem is not Vista itself, it runs fine on vista but only on vista x32 bit version. Problem may be your x64bit. At the moment I would just stick with xp

[Bigmango]

Am I the only one who is unable to run this program on Vista x64? I double-click the exe and it briefly shows in the taskbar but immediately closes down, no error sound or anything like that. Just goes away.


It has always been working fine for me on vistax64, and I have now just checked again and it is still working fine :)

[Colin_S]

The MKV was fine but i think the manual remux may have messed it up.

[B4tm4n]

B4tm4n doesnt know what hes talking about.

The new L4.1 releases are just valid level 4.1 and before most 1080p were not, it still a mkv file and needs to be converted in some way like with mkv2vob.
What it means is they will remux without transcoding to mpeg2.

If you read my post I did say you needed to remux to a ts file, with tsmuxer, and it will play on a PS3. There are some L4.1 files been posted on the net, and the one 1080p file I tried played fine.

[InterClaw]

It has always been working fine for me on vistax64, and I have now just checked again and it is still working fine :)

Good for you. What is the matter with my installation then? I haven't found anything useful in Event Viewer, but then again I've never really understood that thing anyway. What am I supposed to look for?

Is there anything else I can try?

[Glorioso]

Is there anyway the burn the subtitles to the final file?

[sukhvail]

Hey, does this program change avc level during the mux/demux or will i have to still use h264info?

[3r1c]

Hey, does this program change avc level during the mux/demux or will i have to still use h264info?

it does everything automatically.
just open your mkv file, select automatic and the resulting file will play on ps3.

[sukhvail]

wow, real quick response! thanks, this seems like the most complete program out there atm

EDIT: Damn, no aac support :( . I guess I'll have to stick w/ demuxing then remuxing via TSRemuxer.

[jamos]

PPS is not needed for ps3 playback.

Replacing the h264info.exe with the new version most likely wont work, mkv2vob sends control commands to its window, it relies on all the text boxes being in the same positions, it likely wont work with a new version without these commands being changed too.


thanks for the clarification 3r1c. It is a shame that h264info does not have a command line. Hopefully TSmuxer will have these issues ironed out soon so we will not need h264info at all.

[Quatre]

just wanted to reiterate what othes have said about low volume on 1080p files with dts. I got the 720p and 1080p of the same movie and the 1080p was significantly lower after mkv2vob. more importantly the resulting 1080p mpeg-2 was lower volume then the mkv it was made from. Also took quite awhile and went from 12GB to 20GB which is a side effect of the uncompressed mpeg-2 we already know and usually i dont mind but thats just starting to push the limits on reasonable file size.

lets just hope that Level 4.1 1080p x264 becomes a new trend and we see lots more of them (def could have used on this last movie). maybe if the word gets out that there is a demand for L4.1 1080p x264, they will become more common.

[furfoot]

I transcoded several MKVs with this tool in 2007, but that was before seeking (rast forward/rewind) was added, so is there a way I run the VOB through mkv2vob or transcode the VOB back into a MKV so that I can retranscode to get seeking working?

I have the exact same question. Anyone have any idea on how to do this? Maybe doing it manually with some tools instead of mkv2vob? I'd rather not have to download the original .mkvs again.

[WicKeDcHilD]

I have the exact same question. Anyone have any idea on how to do this? Maybe doing it manually with some tools instead of mkv2vob? I'd rather not have to download the original .mkvs again.

open up mkvmerge GUI 2.1.0 and load the file
change the video frame rate to 23.976 ( or mkvmerge defaults to 25fps )
start the remux and wait till its done and is a brand new .mkv
then run it through mkv2vob like normal

[danharrison]

open up mkvmerge GUI 2.1.0 and load the file
change the video frame rate to 23.976 ( or mkvmerge defaults to 25fps )
start the remux and wait till its done and is a brand new .mkv
then run it through mkv2vob like normal

I've just been opening tsmuxergui, adding the vob file and clicking "start muxing". The resulting ts files work fine, and it is very quick.

[odedia]

Another noob with a feature request here :)

I am using this terrific program on Mac OS X, using VMWare Fusion.

The problem is that the program is using the temporary storage (probably on the "Documents and settings" folder) which is on the "Windows" hard drive itself.

I have rather limited space on my "Windows" machine, since I do everything using a bridged networking, so I basically point the program to a network storage. Remuxing an MKV which can easily reach 10-20GB will not be possible.

It would be great if the program would simply use the target folder as the location of the temp files storage.

Thanks again!

[sportcenter]

what about subs and commentary tracks

[Glorioso]

what about subs and commentary tracks

Same question here, can the VOB file handle subtitles?

[furfoot]

I've just been opening tsmuxergui, adding the vob file and clicking "start muxing". The resulting ts files work fine, and it is very quick.

Thanks! Does each remux degrade the audio quality?

[margaan]

Another noob with a feature request here :)

I am using this terrific program on Mac OS X, using VMWare Fusion.

The problem is that the program is using the temporary storage (probably on the "Documents and settings" folder) which is on the "Windows" hard drive itself.

I have rather limited space on my "Windows" machine, since I do everything using a bridged networking, so I basically point the program to a network storage. Remuxing an MKV which can easily reach 10-20GB will not be possible.

It would be great if the program would simply use the target folder as the location of the temp files storage.

Thanks again!

Try this:
Go to Control Panel -> Sytem -> Advanced -> Enviroment Variables and change the TEMP + TMP Paths there. You should be able to relocate the temp folder to an external drive.

[odedia]

Try this:
Go to Control Panel -> Sytem -> Advanced -> Enviroment Variables and change the TEMP + TMP Paths there. You should be able to relocate the temp folder to an external drive.

That did the trick! :thanks:

Small tip if others are trying this as well: You can't access network folders from the command prompt, so just map a drive to the network folder, and have the environment variable point to that drive (I used Z: for example).

Thanks again!

[Glorioso]

How can i demux the resulting VOB?

[gav1577]

How can i demux the resulting VOB?

download tsremux http://www.videohelp.com/tools/TsRemux rename .vob to .m2ts load your m2ts into tsremux
right click on audio stream or video stream and and demux :)

[jamos]

download tsremux http://www.videohelp.com/tools/TsRemux rename .vob to .m2ts load your m2ts into tsremux
right click on audio stream or video stream and and demux :)

actually rename it to .ts as it is a .ts not a .m2ts

[jamos]

Same question here, can the VOB file handle subtitles?

no. this has been answered many times in this thread. even if it could they would not play as you cannot choose subtitles from a media file playing on the ps3.

[danharrison]

Thanks! Does each remux degrade the audio quality?

Don't think so - it just extracts the AC3 audio and h.264 video streams and muxes them into a ts file, which is what mkv2vob does as a second step (no need to do the first step of changing the level of the h.264 stream to 4.1 as that was already done when it was first converted to a vob)

[jamos]

Hey, does this program change avc level during the mux/demux or will i have to still use h264info?

It uses h264info. TSmuxer does not work to do this yet, hopefully it will some day.

[rahzel]

download tsremux http://www.videohelp.com/tools/TsRemux rename .vob to .m2ts load your m2ts into tsremux
right click on audio stream or video stream and and demux :)
doesn't tsremux open vob/mpg files?

[gav1577]

doesn't tsremux open vob/mpg files?

yes your right it does my bad :)

[darkbeats]

yo eric,

dood, your my frickin hero. i got this ps3 two months ago and have been experimenting with everything, some good, some bad, but mostly tedious. Thing is, the ps3 upconverts sooo much better to my tv than my PC, that I want everything to go thru the ps3. Your tool is working great for me. muchas grass

just want to point out a little bug that my noob-ness caused: if you specify a destination directory that doesnt exist, mkv2vob goes through all the steps, only to fail at the very last step. resulted in the dreaded: " muxing failed" error message. probably because it doesn't know where to put the result. worked perfect (beyond perfect, because the vob looks sooo good via the ps3 vs my pc), when i gave it an existing directory. maybe not a big deal, but if ya didn't know, now u know.

gg

[rahzel]

something i would also like to request (if it hasn't already) is a folder conversion option (multiple videos).

[carlosroman101]

Hi, to everyone having a problem using mkv2vob (or GOTSent) to transcode their MKVs... yes there is a problem at the moment with mkv2vob . The problem is actually easily fixed by down grading tsMuxeR back down to 1.2.0 (so problem is with the current version of tsMuxeR). All you have to do is go to http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=134104 and download version 1.2.0, unzip it over the files in the tools folder. This will allow you to transcode all the files that the current set up refuses to do. Before this app was working fine but I was also having problems transcoding MKVs, including old MKVs that mkv2vob used to do fine. Tracked down the problem to the version of tsMuxeR eing used. Copying over the newest version still allows you to keep 5.1 ac3 and the ability to fast forward. Last couple I've done have been fine and noticed no audio out of sync after fast forwarding.

You can see one file working here in the following pics...
http://download.cliche-corp.co.uk/doom9/doom9.20080213a.jpg
http://download.cliche-corp.co.uk/doom9/doom9.20080213b.jpg

This file didn't work before, but worked once I downgraded. I would have posted this sooner but I only upgraded on Friday and so had to wait 5 days before posting :)

Also, 3r1c, any chance of source or if you want a hand let me know. I could try and help to add features as would be cool to be able to do a batch process of files or even nominate a temp directory of you own.Oh, before I forget, this is an awesome little app :thanks:

[natronicus]

For all those looking for batch processing with mkv2vob, I've created a small script/executable that automates this process.

See this thread for more info:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=134806

Regards,
n

[azyd]

natronicus


thanks for the script. works like a charm, i couldnt download it so i copied the code and made my own. maybe 3r1c can integrate it into MKV2VOB. it would be a wellcome addition

[3r1c]

Im working on a new version with some new features but it will be a while before its ready.

here is what i have planned

- convert multiple files
- convert entire directory
- rar file support
- audio language selection
- subtitles
- auto file splitting (fit on dvd5 etc...)
- xbox 360 compatibility
- check for updates automatically

[darkbeats]

subtitles twice eh?

speaking of file splitting, is there any way to predict file size (or shrink)? I've had a few vobs end up smaller than the mkv, but most end up 30% to 100% larger than the original. A couple i planned to put on a dvd9 but they ended up too large.

[natronicus]

azyd: Glad to hear it. I've updated my post with an external link now to avoid the hassle of doom9's requirement to approve attached files.

To keep from hijacking this thread, however, lets keep discussion of mkv2vob here and batch_mkv2vob in the other thread.

Thanks again!
n

[Quatre]

Hi, to everyone having a problem using mkv2vob (or GOTSent) to transcode their MKVs... yes there is a problem at the moment with mkv2vob . The problem is actually easily fixed by down grading tsMuxeR back down to 1.2.0 (so problem is with the current version of tsMuxeR). All you have to do is go to http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=134104 and download version 1.2.0, unzip it over the files in the tools folder. This will allow you to transcode all the files that the current set up refuses to do. Before this app was working fine but I was also having problems transcoding MKVs, including old MKVs that mkv2vob used to do fine. Tracked down the problem to the version of tsMuxeR eing used. Copying over the newest version still allows you to keep 5.1 ac3 and the ability to fast forward. Last couple I've done have been fine and noticed no audio out of sync after fast forwarding.

You can see one file working here in the following pics...
http://download.cliche-corp.co.uk/doom9/doom9.20080213a.jpg
http://download.cliche-corp.co.uk/doom9/doom9.20080213b.jpg

This file didn't work before, but worked once I downgraded. I would have posted this sooner but I only upgraded on Friday and so had to wait 5 days before posting :)

Also, 3r1c, any chance of source or if you want a hand let me know. I could try and help to add features as would be cool to be able to do a batch process of files or even nominate a temp directory of you own.Oh, before I forget, this is an awesome little app :thanks:

is it the version of tsMuxer in latest version of mkv2vob that would cause it to make an mpeg-2 that is jumpy and looks like it plays in fast forward at times from a 1080p mkv with dts?

Because my Across the Universe mpeg-2 from the 1080p mkv with dts does that and is unwatchable after taking a good few hours to transcode using mkv2vob. luckily i had the 720p version as well (not sure if it was an avc or mpeg-2) from 720p mkv (not sure if it was originally ac3 or dts) and it worked fine.

shame that 1080p is still a problem and that while things get fixed or added to mkv2vob but then suddenly other things stop working.

in this case hopefully its just a matter of overwriting tools with the older version of tsMuxer.

[azyd]

Im working on a new version with some new features but it will be a while before its ready.

here is what i have planned

- convert multiple files
- convert entire directory
- rar file support
- subtitles
- audio language selection
- subtitles
- auto file splitting (fit on dvd5 etc...)
- xbox 360 compatibility
- check for updates automatically

i wish you the best of luck, but i dont see how you can get subs to work scince there is no option for subs when you hit triangle. i also thought that i would never watch my mkvs on my ps3....... shows you how mutch i know!:thanks:

[rahzel]

Im working on a new version with some new features but it will be a while before its ready.

here is what i have planned

- convert multiple files
- convert entire directory
- rar file support
- audio language selection
- subtitles
- auto file splitting (fit on dvd5 etc...)
- xbox 360 compatibility
- check for updates automatically
nice list. for the file splitting, can you make it so you can enter the size you want each portion to be? i stream my files to my PS3, and although ff/rw is supported now, i like to split my movies into 3-4 chunks using mkvmerge, but this will remove that step.

also, any word on the normalization of DTS -> AC3?

[Quatre]

I've tried 1 of these new L4.1 encodes and it plays fine on the PS3 without re-encoding.

i ran mkv2vob on we own the night L4.1 version and it looks ike it still had to transcode to mpeg-2.

did you tell mkv2vob to never transcode for this one? does mkv2vob just think it needs tobut it doesnt?

i did downgrade the tsxmuxer to 1.2.0 in mkv2vob 1.5.3 cus that is supposed to help fix problems but is it possible that know because of that it made mkv2vob think it needed to tanscode this 1080p L4.1 mkv when it didn't or again did you just try the never transcode option and the resulting file avc .vob file worked on ps3?

edit:

i did we own the night L4.1 1080p mkv a second time this time selecting never transcode and it looks like it still transcoded. strange. i'll see of the 2 resulting files what works and what ps3 labels them as mpeg-2 or avc but so far its taking a long long time and looks like it has to transcode to mpeg-2 so now i dont see the point of L4.1 1080p mkv as it doesn't seem to be helping anything
maybe i shouldn't have reverted bck to tsxmuxer 1.2.0?

selecting never transcode for the L4.1 1080p mkv seemed to still transcode and just make an mpeg-2 in less time but one that doenst' play? i thought L4.1 mkv dont need to be transcoded? why does mkv2vob when set to auto still transcode it and when set to never transcode still makes an mpeg-2 but one that doenst play?

[p4t0z3u]

Im working on a new version with some new features but it will be a while before its ready.

here is what i have planned

- convert multiple files
- convert entire directory
- rar file support
- audio language selection
- subtitles
- auto file splitting (fit on dvd5 etc...)
- xbox 360 compatibility
- check for updates automatically

Eric, I started carving a statue in your honor. Thanks for the job.

It's just too bad most of the tools used do not exist under Mac OSX, this way we could create a pure mac version of your tool.

Since I'm not equipped with an Intel machine, and do not want to change, I'm stuck with my work PC, but this does the trick.

Thanks again !

[Quatre]

3r1c


im starting to see a few of these 1080p encodes

We.Own.the.Night.2007.BluRay.1080p.DTS.L4.1.x264-CtrlHD

if i run this through MKV2VOB will it convert the DTS to ac3 and then remux or after converting the DTS will it run trough H264info then remux?

it is 10gigs....... i dont want to waste the download.....

how did you get this file working? set to auto mkv2vob still transcodes it, is taking a long long time, resulting mpeg-2 will prob be 20gb and not play properly on ps3 (jumpy/skippy video like its in fast forward at times) just like Across the Univese 1080p x264.

i tried selecting never transcode and that just make an mpeg-2 file (and it said it was transcoding during the process even though i told mkv2vob not to) that doesnt' play or work at all.

what a waste of time.

what is the proper instructions for L4.1 1080p mkv? select never transcode in mkv2vob? or should mkv2vob auto detect that it doesnt need transcoding? how come neithe worked.

was reverting TsMuxer back to 1.2.0 as someone suggested actually be part of the problem now even though someone posted that that version worked and to overwrite the newer tsMuxer files in Tools folder of mkv2vob as newer version tsMuxer was causingsome problems.

[Quatre]

I've tried 1 of these new L4.1 encodes and it plays fine on the PS3 without re-encoding.

how?

what did you use? mkv2vob still starts transcoding when selected to auto and seems to still transcode andmake a non working mpeg-2 file when i selected never transcode on an L4.1 1080p mkv file.

[Franke73]

Im working on a new version with some new features but it will be a while before its ready.

here is what i have planned

- convert multiple files
- convert entire directory
- rar file support
- audio language selection
- subtitles
- auto file splitting (fit on dvd5 etc...)
- xbox 360 compatibility
- check for updates automatically

amazing new features eric!!!
You should get an paypal account for people like me who want to pay you some respect =)

[Quatre]

those features aren't available yet and lets not get carried away...

edit:

what i mean by this, is that why we all appreciate and give him credit, talking about paying is where it gets into a grey area when talking about this kind of program for these type of files and use etc. just relax. if 3rlc wants to accept "donations" he will do so and let us know

[jamos]

until tsmuxer supports subtitles I do not see how you could get them to work unless your talking about reencoding subtitles.

[DiRTDOG]

Looking forward to the new features, even if all of them aren't implemented yet. thanks for the hard work!

[azyd]

how did you get this file working? set to auto mkv2vob still transcodes it, is taking a long long time, resulting mpeg-2 will prob be 20gb and not play properly on ps3 (jumpy/skippy video like its in fast forward at times) just like Across the Univese 1080p x264.

i tried selecting never transcode and that just make an mpeg-2 file (and it said it was transcoding during the process even though i told mkv2vob not to) that doesnt' play or work at all.

what a waste of time.

what is the proper instructions for L4.1 1080p mkv? select never transcode in mkv2vob? or should mkv2vob auto detect that it doesnt need transcoding? how come neithe worked.

was reverting TsMuxer back to 1.2.0 as someone suggested actually be part of the problem now even though someone posted that that version worked and to overwrite the newer tsMuxer files in Tools folder of mkv2vob as newer version tsMuxer was causingsome problems.


just tell it to never transcode, it still runs it through h264info but the resulting file works fine. it did for me anyway..... may be i got lucky....... its been known to happen.

[3r1c]

if you set it to "never transcode" there is no way at all that you got a mpeg2 file.
the slowbess was because of trancoding DTS audio.

[B4tm4n]

how?

what did you use? mkv2vob still starts transcoding when selected to auto and seems to still transcode andmake a non working mpeg-2 file when i selected never transcode on an L4.1 1080p mkv file.

I put it through h264info and then remuxed it to a .ts file with tsMuxer and it plays great on a PS3.

[nunyabuizness]

I was able to convert effortlessly The Matrix 1080p and 310 To Yuma 1080p using the auto transcode feature.
310 to Yuma was a 10gb rip, and after the conversion (which i think transcoding; i cant tell im in college where i get them and i watch and convert these at home on my ps3) the 310 fit perfectly on two dual layer dvds
Ive been using this software since Christmas and have converted roughly 10 720p and 1080p movies, burnt them, and watched them perfectly.
3r1c is the best

[Quatre]

if you set it to "never transcode" there is no way at all that you got a mpeg2 file.
the slowbess was because of trancoding DTS audio.

yeah using tversity it showed up as an mpeg-2 but then once copied to the ps3 internal it showed as an AVC and a moving video thumbnail so i thought it would work but it doesn't play.

It may have been because I was doing the same file using auto and then ran a second instance of mkv2vob and selected never transcode. that may have been the problem, i guess i should only run one instance this time and try selecting never transcode again.

[Quatre]

I put it through h264info and then remuxed it to a .ts file with tsMuxer and it plays great on a PS3.

ok but others are saying you can just use one prog being the topic here of mkv2vob and select never transcode for L4.1 1080p x264 and it will make an AVC file that plays on ps3 without transcoding like you have to for most 1080p x264.

funny how many of us initially requested the option to always transcode so we would get ff/rw when before the remuxe avc .vob didnt have that. Now we need to select never transcode for L4.1 1080p x264.

Maybe new version can detect if it is L4.1 and then not transcode as some L4.1 1080p x264 dont say that it is except maybe in the info and you never know when you could get one wrongly labeled as L4.1 but isn't , if mkv2vob had the ability to detect L4.1 and allow one to still select auto then we wouldnt have to play a guessing game and possibly waste time making a file that ends up not working.

(also as a side note, could you ppl with hdbits start upping these L4.1 1080p x264 to ng's) :thanks:

[3r1c]

You dont have to select "never transcode" on the L4.1
That guy just doesnt understand that DTS will still be transcoded, the option only applies to the video.

Next version will mux DTS without transcoding.

[Quatre]

You dont have to select "never transcode" on the L4.1
That guy just doesnt understand that DTS will still be transcoded, the option only applies to the video.

Next version will mux DTS without transcoding.

confused. so for L4.1 1080p x264 I dont have to choose never transcode? is it okay that I did? because previously I tried both auto and never transcode and neither the transcode to mpeg-2 via auto nor the avc created from selecting never transcode worked.

i did run 2 instances at the same time on the same mkv though as i said previously. did it this time with just never transcode and about to see if it works. if it didn't i guess i can try again auto but at this point i'm either thinking its a file that can't be done with mkv2vob or i sholdn't have downgraded the txMuxer version in mkv2vob .

dont know what else it could be.

[3r1c]

L4.1 wont be transcoded by auto mode.
So selecting auto or never will both give the same result.
Im just saying that it is not necessary to select "never" like one person said, mostly because its a bad idea to get in the habbit of selecting never when its not needed.
Unless you are splitting files, do not select never.

Are you saying this L4.1 file wont play?

EDIT: Dont run mkv2vob more the once at the same time on the same file.
It uses the same temp name for both, thats probably what messed it up.

Do it again once and select automatic.

[Quatre]

L4.1 wont be transcoded by auto mode.
So selecting auto or never will both give the same result.
Im just saying that it is not necessary to select "never" like one person said, mostly because its a bad idea to get in the habbit of selecting never when its not needed.
Unless you are splitting files, do not select never.

Are you saying this L4.1 file wont play?

EDIT: Dont run mkv2vob more the once at the same time on the same file.
It uses the same temp name for both, thats probably what messed it up.

Do it again once and select automatic.

ok i understand now but I did it again once and selected never transcode and it still made an mpeg-2 according to ps3 but one that doesn't play. transferring it now to the ps3 hdd and if its same as last time then it will then show as an AVC with a moving video thumbnail once on the ps3 hdd but still wont play.

now i'll try doing it again selecting auto but basically at this point i'm just wasting time trying the same things i've already done over only to get the same result.

the only thing left it could be is the fact that I overwrote the tools folder with the tsxMuxer 1.2.0 files as someone recommened fixed some problems mkv2vob was having with sync etc.

i guess for this last try i'll just reinstall mkv2vob 1.5.3 (leaving whatever version tsMuxer it uses) and try auto again but i think it just doenst' like the file. But yet others mentioned this same movie L4.1 release (of which there is only one so i know its the same) and got it working. of course one guy said he didnt use mkv2vob but its annoying that here i thought L4.1 was a way to a quicker smaller avc file (instead of longer to transcode and larger mpeg-2) on ps3 from a 1080p mkv.

instead i jsut keep wasting time using mkv2vob on the file for it to make a non working file. maybe L4.1 1080p mkv aren't so good afterall? what gives?

edit: yep same result. selecting never transcode on "We.Own.the.Night.2007.BluRay.1080p.DTS.L4.1.x264-CtrlHD.mkv" results in what ps3 labels as an mpeg-2 file (even though i selected never transcode) when using tversity and doesn't play. Then copying it to the ps3 hdd, it then is labeled as an AVC with a moving video thumbnail but still doesn't play.

Now i'm trying all over again this time selecting auto but all it does is take longer then selecting never transcode and result is still a non working file. I thought the L4.1 was going to make it quicker and easier for 1080p x264 on ps3 especially using mkv2vob but it seems just a lot of wate of time making non working files and were still better off getting the 720p AC3 version of a file which is a shame because for ppl with both 360 and ps3 and relying between the 2 of those for video playback on larger tv (as opposed to small pc monitor) yes there is wmv which plays great on 360 (no sound on ps3 for some reason yes even with wma audio enabled) but the problem is wmv rels come sparingly and come late sometimes never (or only or at least first with hardcoded nl subs which is frustrating) also for awhile were mostly 720p (for the stupid reason to accomodate ppl burning to dvd9 even though many used ext. hdd [hfs+] or stream and would have prefered 1080p)

so at least with ps3 you can make use of the quicker to come out and larger selection of x264 but seems it was safest to stick with 720p ac3 files which defeated the purpose of an alternative to 720p wmv on 360. Yes mkv2vob could make a working mpeg-2 of many 1080p x264 but the long transcode time, 50% larger file size and especially the files that after said long transcode etc. made a file that didnt work properly with either out of sync audio problems or jumpy skippy video like it was in fast forward as i recently exeprienced.

now L4.1 1080p x264 comes along figuring that will be the answer to quick easier 1080p x264 on ps3 but the first one i'm trying (over and over) is just causing mkv2vob to waste time making a non working file. ;_;

[Quatre]

Hi, to everyone having a problem using mkv2vob (or GOTSent) to transcode their MKVs... yes there is a problem at the moment with mkv2vob . The problem is actually easily fixed by down grading tsMuxeR back down to 1.2.0 (so problem is with the current version of tsMuxeR). All you have to do is go to http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=134104 and download version 1.2.0, unzip it over the files in the tools folder. This will allow you to transcode all the files that the current set up refuses to do. Before this app was working fine but I was also having problems transcoding MKVs, including old MKVs that mkv2vob used to do fine. Tracked down the problem to the version of tsMuxeR eing used. Copying over the newest version still allows you to keep 5.1 ac3 and the ability to fast forward. Last couple I've done have been fine and noticed no audio out of sync after fast forwarding.

You can see one file working here in the following pics...
http://download.cliche-corp.co.uk/doom9/doom9.20080213a.jpg
http://download.cliche-corp.co.uk/doom9/doom9.20080213b.jpg

This file didn't work before, but worked once I downgraded. I would have posted this sooner but I only upgraded on Friday and so had to wait 5 days before posting :)

Also, 3r1c, any chance of source or if you want a hand let me know. I could try and help to add features as would be cool to be able to do a batch process of files or even nominate a temp directory of you own.Oh, before I forget, this is an awesome little app :thanks:

seems like this may have been bad advice and using the older version of tsMuxer causes mkv2vob to make non working file especially with L4.1 1080p mkv.

maybe there are too many chefs in the kitchen on this thread

[carlosroman101]

That might seems to be true (not tried with any 1080p content). Only suggested it for those that were having trouble with mkv2vob and who previoulsy were having no problems creating vob files for the PS3. So maybe the advice should be if your having trouble try downgrading tsMuxeR to see if this helps. I still stand by the advice as the current tsMuxeR will only find the ac3 track in one file out of 20 I tested, while the old one found it every time :)

[Glorioso]

Im working on a new version with some new features but it will be a while before its ready.

here is what i have planned

- convert multiple files
- convert entire directory
- rar file support
- audio language selection
- subtitles
- auto file splitting (fit on dvd5 etc...)
- xbox 360 compatibility
- check for updates automatically

If you get the subtitles to work i'll make a statue!!!:p

[hexperience]

L4.1 wont be transcoded by auto mode.
So selecting auto or never will both give the same result.



I'm getting the same thing as Quatre.

If I watch the whole process, I can see that ffmpeg kicks in encodes the video to mpeg2.

Source: (I did confirm that the AVC is L4.1)

General #0
Complete name : C:\We\test.mkv
Format : Mk
File size : 95.3 MiB
PlayTime : 1h 57mn
Bit rate : 113 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2008-02-08 03:24:04
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.1.0 ('Another Place To Fall') built on Aug 19 2007 13:40:07
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video #0
Codec : MPEG-4 AVC
Codec/Info : MPEG4 ISO advanced profile
PlayTime : 1h 57mn
Width : 1920 pixels
Height : 1040 pixels
Display Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Language : English

Audio #0
Codec : DTS
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Title : Feature Film Track
Language : English

Audio #1
Codec : AC3
Codec/Info : Dolby AC3
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Title : Commentary
Language : English

Text #0
Codec : UTF-8
Codec/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Language : English

Text #1
Codec : UTF-8
Codec/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Language : Spanish



Result:

General #0
Complete name : C:\We\test.vob
Format : MPEG-2 Program
Format/Family : MPEG-2
File size : 161 MiB
PlayTime : 2mn 6s
Bit rate : 11 Mbps

Video #0
Codec : MPEG-2 Video
Codec profile : Main@High
Codec settings/Matri : Standard
PlayTime : 2mn 6s
Bit rate : 9846 Kbps
Bit rate mode : VBR
Width : 1920 pixels
Height : 1040 pixels
Display Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Chroma : 4:2:0
Interlacement : Progressive

Audio #0
Codec : AC3
PlayTime : 2mn 6s
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, Subwoofer
Sampling rate : 48 KHz



Quatre, did you do the "keep broken files" trick with winrar? I did. Maybe that's why? The MKV is only 95 meg and not the whole file... ??


Also, when I do this manually, tsRemuxer shows this in the info window: Warning! Frame delimiters are absent at H.264 stream. Auto fix it.
If mkv2vob is looking for the Frame delimiters I assume that would make it want to transcode the video...?

[mark_in_2k]

Another 1080p L4.1 x264 flick has been posted.

"American.Gangster.2007.1080p.HDDVD.DTS.L4.1.x264-CtrlHD".

I'm downloading the sample of the file and going to run it through MKV2VOB to see what results I get.

[hexperience]

Another 1080p L4.1 x264 flick has been posted.

"American.Gangster.2007.1080p.HDDVD.DTS.L4.1.x264-CtrlHD".

I'm downloading the sample of the file and going to run it through MKV2VOB to see what results I get.

Tried that one as well. (This time the sample file rather than just the first RAR).

Same thing. ffmpeg is running right now....

mkvinfo.exe "c:\Sample_Track1.h264"
(MKVInfo) No EBML head found.

[3r1c]

Samples will always transcode in auto mode.

mkv2vob reads the header in the first few bytes of the file to determine if it needs to be transcoded, and samples is usually
a cut from the middle of the full file without the header.

Using the first rar usually works, however if the audio stream is first track in the mkv you might get a first rar only containing audio.

[Glorioso]

How can i predict the final size? I started with a 8gb file and ended with a 16gb one...

[rjonesdj]

hi, first post here (took a week before i could!)
first of all thanks very much for an extremely useful little app!

when i convert sme 1gb files i have (the usual 42 min tv shows), they will usually convert no problem, with some requiring extra conversion to make it compatible for my ps3..
but when i try to convert some larger MKVs i have (2gb, 4gb some 720p movies) then i find that the audio codec (a_aac) is not supported..

i have tried using gotsent,mkvextract/mkvmerge,Yamb,mp4box.... but once i have extracted the audio and video, neither application will merge the files back to an mp4..

does anyone one know of a way to get round this?
or even another application that supports this codec.

any help or suggestions come greatly appreciated! thanks.

[Thunder2001]

I have rip for me KingKong in 1080p. Is an 12GB mkv movie with AC3 sound. Today i have to essay to convert the movie with mkv2vob. I have try the "Never Transcode" method and the movie works perfectly. :) No stutter or async in 1080p AAC. Is after all possible to play an 1080p Movie without transcode to mpeg2.

[asif9t9]

I did a search and not a lot of people are asking about mkv files encoded with aac 5.l sound. mkv2vob won't work on these files. Gotsent can make the file compatible with the PS3, in mp4 format, but my HTiB can't decode AAC.

What's the best way to change AAC to AC3? I've tried demuxing with mkvextract. Then I use DAudioK to change the AAC to an AC3 file. But the AC3 file is always messed up. Anyone have a quick and easy way to make an MKV with AAC 5.1 audio into an MKV with AC3 5.1?

[nunyabuizness]

I recently came upon tsmuxer and thought that avchd movies would be the step up from just making vobs (although you could put those in DVD file format).

I made myself a Across The Universe 720 1 GB sample from the beginning of the file and went through the works of changing the level in tsmuxer and then making it into bluray format in \BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts. Burnt as AVCHD with UDF 2.5 and everything and it didnot work in my ps3 fw210.

I have burnt many mkv2vob movies to dvds, some have been doubled in size 310 to Yuma 1080p) and others have just increased a little to not fit on one DVDR (the Bournes 720p)

WITHOUT READING ANYTHING I JUST POSTED (not yelling, just trying to get 3r1c's attention), I basically want to know what causes mkv2vob to know which files to transcode because it seems that this is independent of the whether the h264 level is 4.1 or not.

[alvins]

To convert aac to ac3 I do the following -

1. Use MKVExtractGUI to extract h264 video and aac audio from mkv file.
2. Use faad2 to convert aac to a 6ch wav file (faad -o outfile.wav infile.aac).
3. Use aften to convert wav to ac3 (aften -v 0 -readtoeof 1 -b 448 - input.wav output.ac3).
4. Use mkvmergegui to create mkv of h264 video and ac3 audio
5. Use mkv2vob to create vob from new mkv.

[gordho]

To convert aac to ac3 I do the following -

1. Use MKVExtractGUI to extract h264 video and aac audio from mkv file.
2. Use faad2 to convert aac to a 6ch wav file (faad -o outfile.wav infile.aac).
3. Use aften to convert wav to ac3 (aften -v 0 -readtoeof 1 -b 448 - input.wav output.ac3).
4. Use mkvmergegui to create mkv of h264 video and ac3 audio
5. Use mkv2vob to create vob from new mkv.

thanks so much for that!! now if only 3r1c would add aac conversion to mkv2vob. btw, thanks 3r1c for all your work.

[3r1c]

I recently came upon tsmuxer and thought that avchd movies would be the step up from just making vobs (although you could put those in DVD file format).

I made myself a Across The Universe 720 1 GB sample from the beginning of the file and went through the works of changing the level in tsmuxer and then making it into bluray format in \BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts. Burnt as AVCHD with UDF 2.5 and everything and it didnot work in my ps3 fw210.

I have burnt many mkv2vob movies to dvds, some have been doubled in size 310 to Yuma 1080p) and others have just increased a little to not fit on one DVDR (the Bournes 720p)

WITHOUT READING ANYTHING I JUST POSTED (not yelling, just trying to get 3r1c's attention), I basically want to know what causes mkv2vob to know which files to transcode because it seems that this is independent of the whether the h264 level is 4.1 or not.

AVCHD is the same as blu-ray which has more restrictions which x264 currently does not meet.

mkv2vob already uses tsmuxer.
Just burn the file on a a DVD-R and it will play.

[Atak_Snajpera]

AVCHD is the same as blu-ray which has more restrictions which x264 currently does not meet.

That's not true.

[asif9t9]

To convert aac to ac3 I do the following -

1. Use MKVExtractGUI to extract h264 video and aac audio from mkv file.
2. Use faad2 to convert aac to a 6ch wav file (faad -o outfile.wav infile.aac).
3. Use aften to convert wav to ac3 (aften -v 0 -readtoeof 1 -b 448 - input.wav output.ac3).
4. Use mkvmergegui to create mkv of h264 video and ac3 audio
5. Use mkv2vob to create vob from new mkv.

Thanks. I've seen this method, but I'd rather a program that does those steps in one shot. Have you seen DAudioK? You can change an AAC file to an AC3 in one shot. It uses AVISynth. But for some reason it doesn't always work.

There should be a more automatic way to get from AAC to AC3 because a lot of people must be running into this issue. My HTiB is fairly decent, but it can't decode AAC. What about you guys? And why are people releasing MKV's with AAC audio?

[mxz600]

Just want to chime in here and say I love the HD VOB's on my Plasma with my PS3, thanks alot for the Program. But my new movie POTC2 is in AAC and the program wont even attempt to VOB it. I tried GOTsent .23 and it is in the process of trying it as I type. I'll let you know how it turns out but from the posts above, it doesn't seem like it is gunna work. I'll post to let ye all know how it works.

[Quatre]

We Own the Night L4.1 1080p x264 causes mkv2vob to make a non working file every time whether you choose auto or never transcode.

Very frustrating considering it takes all that time to do it just to produce a non working file and even more so the fact that the L4.1 files were supposed to be the answer to the ability to have 1080p x264 files on ps3 without needing to do the lengthier transcode to the 50% larger mpeg-2 file.

i'd rather have that though then waste time repeatedly making a non working file.

I dont know what all this is about keep broken rar and other crap but the release par'd fine and should be good but i guess maybe that is part of the problme that there is something wrong with it. i'll just resort to 720p ac3 x264 for that movie and try another L4.1

[sportcenter]

We Own the Night L4.1 1080p x264 causes mkv2vob to make a non working file every time whether you choose auto or never transcode.


have talked to 2-3 people that played it fine

[Quatre]

have talked to 2-3 people that played it fine

that means nothing. what did they use? mkv2vob? auto or never transcode?

newest version of mkv2vob. overwritten with older version tsMuxer 1.2.0? or not.

[azyd]

that means nothing. what did they use? mkv2vob? auto or never transcode?

newest version of mkv2vob. overwritten with older version tsMuxer 1.2.0? or not.

mine worked fine, i used mkv2vob and told it to never transcode, it still ran it through h264info but i got a working file. so i dont know what you are doing wrong. could also be a bad download, might be your computer could be anything.

im useing the news build of MKV2VOB.

[Quatre]

mine worked fine, i used mkv2vob and told it to never transcode, it still ran it through h264info but i got a working file. so i dont know what you are doing wrong. could also be a bad download, might be your computer could be anything.

im useing the news build of MKV2VOB.

yeah some idiot on the thread told ppl to overwrite mkv2vob with older version of tsMuxer (1.2.0 to be exact which is several versions back).

I thought I had tried it with the untouched latest version of mkv2vob but maybe I did it with the older version of tsMuxer in the tools folder. but before I thought it was something else so tried again before reinstalling so its just been a pain. hopefully it works and the lesson is to not have too many chefs in the kitchen so to speak.

ie. some ppl in the thread need to stop suggesting incorrect information and confusing ppl. instead make a suggestion/tip to the author and let him verify its working and tell others , otherwise be sure you are correct before posting misinformation and bad suggestions to ppl, that then make it seem like the authors prog is not working.

[chubsta]

Has anyone managed to get this working on a Mac via VirtualPC (my Mac is too old to run paralells) - I keep running into the problem of VPC not recognising images of over 4gb even though the virtual drive is set up as NTFS. Everything works fine on another pc i have so i know what i am doing with the program, but i would really love to be able to do everything on the Mac!

any suggestions greatfully receievd...

[azyd]

Has anyone managed to get this working on a Mac via VirtualPC (my Mac is too old to run paralells) - I keep running into the problem of VPC not recognising images of over 4gb even though the virtual drive is set up as NTFS. Everything works fine on another pc i have so i know what i am doing with the program, but i would really love to be able to do everything on the Mac!

any suggestions greatfully receievd...

you could try to split the mkv first then run it through mkv2vob

[DiRTDOG]

anyone else have trouble with video/audio speed? On some of my conversions the a/v will speed up for a sec. then stop and play normal that do it again and continue this process. Its not the whole movie but portions of it will do this.

Thanks for any help.

[jamos]

yeah some idiot on the thread told ppl to overwrite mkv2vob with older version of tsMuxer (1.2.0 to be exact which is several versions back).

I thought I had tried it with the untouched latest version of mkv2vob but maybe I did it with the older version of tsMuxer in the tools folder. but before I thought it was something else so tried again before reinstalling so its just been a pain. hopefully it works and the lesson is to not have too many chefs in the kitchen so to speak.

ie. some ppl in the thread need to stop suggesting incorrect information and confusing ppl. instead make a suggestion/tip to the author and let him verify its working and tell others , otherwise be sure you are correct before posting misinformation and bad suggestions to ppl, that then make it seem like the authors prog is not working.

Watch calling other members idiots, you are violating forum rules.

Others are trying to help you and I know some persons are less technically oriented than others. you just have to take what they say with a grain of salt. If you do not want their help then pm 3r1c directly with your questions.

[azyd]

anyone else have trouble with video/audio speed? On some of my conversions the a/v will speed up for a sec. then stop and play normal that do it again and continue this process. Its not the whole movie but portions of it will do this.

Thanks for any help.

do your original mkv files have dts audio? and did you update to the latest mkv2vob?

[Jorgensen]

How do you split the mkv files? I have tried several methods without succeding.

[azyd]

How do you split the mkv files? I have tried several methods without succeding.



http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1093527#post1093527

[Quatre]

Watch calling other members idiots, you are violating forum rules.

Others are trying to help you and I know some persons are less technically oriented than others. you just have to take what they say with a grain of salt. If you do not want their help then pm 3r1c directly with your questions.

ok good point thankyou. i guess i was frustrated that I took someones advice that ended up being wrong and a major time waster. are you a forum mod? or just a normal member scolding others though? cus nothing wrong with giving someone a harsh reaction to the spreading of misinfo and making the prog and the author look bad but I guess it wasn't on purpose. again i was prob just frustrated by the huge waste of time because of it.

[Quatre]

anyone else have trouble with video/audio speed? On some of my conversions the a/v will speed up for a sec. then stop and play normal that do it again and continue this process. Its not the whole movie but portions of it will do this.

Thanks for any help.

Yes, it seems like a few ppl have mentioned this. It happened to me on a 1080p file and its a shame because you think you have a working file but then through the movie the video speeds to what some ppl thought was like 2x and then back to normal only to do it again throughout the movie making it basically unwatchable.

so its a waste of a long 1080p transcode and large useless file that at first you think came out good upon first testing. luckily in my case when i went to sit down to watch it i had the 720p as backup as the 1080p with fast playing video spurts was unwatchable.

[Quatre]

do your original mkv files have dts audio? and did you update to the latest mkv2vob?

yes i think mine was a 1080p mkv with dts and i'm sure we were all using latest version when we got resulting mpeg-2 files with intermittent fast playing video/audio

[jamos]

ok good point thankyou. i guess i was frustrated that I took someones advice that ended up being wrong and a major time waster. are you a forum mod? or just a normal member scolding others though? cus nothing wrong with giving someone a harsh reaction to the spreading of misinfo and making the prog and the author look bad but I guess it wasn't on purpose. again i was prob just frustrated by the huge waste of time because of it.

Not a mod just warning you that I have seen others banned for doing this. Not a issue with me, just trying to see you not get in trouble.:sly:

[Quatre]

ok thanks but i think you brought more attention to then anything as on its own it really wasn't that harsh.

anyway We.Own.the.Night.1080p.DTS.L4.1.x264.mkv (disclaimer: made myself, not a torrent)
still causes mkv2vob to make a non working file every single time.

luckily by the 10th try the wmv is now out and plays perfect on the 360.

haven't had good luck at all with this prog lately, first the across the universe 1080p x264 with the intermittent 2x ff playing video after taking ages to transcode to an mpeg-2 that ultimately is unwatchable and now this one that completes but creates a file that doens't work at all. and here L4.1 was suposed to be the answer to quick remuxed avc from 1080p mkv files.

guess not. and my prog and pc are fine and same files as everyone else that par check and mkv plays fine on the pc so its def something th mkv2vob prog is doing.

there is no uninstall for it so i've tried deleteing the whole mkv2vob directory and reinstall i guess its just bad luck that the last couple i've tried take all that time to produce a non working or unwatchable file making for a lot of wasted time.

[DiRTDOG]

We.Own.the.Night.2007.BluRay.1080p.DTS.L4.1.x264-CtrlHD.mkv
still causes mkv2vob to make a non working file every single time.

Thats one of the ones I had problems with. Not all the files I have had this problem with are DTS, they are 1080p though. I usually just watch it through unless it is real bad and some have been that way. Thanks for the replies azyd and Quatre. I hope this gets worked out. I am still very happy I found this app.

[jamos]

anyway We.Own.the.Night.2007.BluRay.1080p.DTS.L4.1.x264-CtrlHD.mkv
still causes mkv2vob to make a non working file every single time.

luckily by the 10th try the wmv is now out and plays perfect on the 360.

haven't had good luck at all with this prog lately, first the across the universe 1080p x264 with the intermittent 2x ff playing video after taking ages to transcode to an mpeg-2 that ultimately is unwatchable and now this one that completes but creates a file that doens't work at all. and here L4.1 was suposed to be the answer to quick remuxed avc from 1080p mkv files.

guess not. and my prog and pc are fine and same files as everyone else that par check and mkv plays fine on the pc so its def something th mkv2vob prog is doing.

there is no uninstall for it so i've tried deleteing the whole mkv2vob directory and reinstall i guess its just bad luck that the last couple i've tried take all that time to produce a non working or unwatchable file making for a lot of wasted time.

Mkv2vob almost always has to reencode 1080p sources and uses ffmpeg to do so because they are encoded into mkv sources using 5.1 AVC OR with more than 4 frames per ref, I do not know how many more times we all can say this. the lvl 4.1 trick only seems to work for 720p sources I have yet to see a 1080p 5.1 or more than 4 frames per reference mkv work on a ps3 by just remuxing. Also if b-pyramid is used to encode the 1080p mkv (which many persons still do) then it will also cause problems with just remuxing.

Why would there be a uninstall it doesn't install in the first place? Just delete the directory and unzip the files again.

Just because a mkv plays on your pc is in no way any test that it will work on your ps3. It is nothing that the mkv2vob program is doing that makes them not play, more that ffmpeg when it transcodes has issues with the video or audio portion of the mkv. Remember mkv2vob is basically a automated gui front end for tools that already exist. 3r1c did not write tsmuxer, h264info, mkvextract and merge, ffmpeg, tranzcode, besweet etc. he just uses them to the best of thier ability. if any of them fall down due to a poorly made (corrupted or non standard) mkv file then I would blame the mkv you are downloading not this program.

[Quatre]

Mkv2vob almost always has to reencode 1080p sources and uses ffmpeg to do so because they are encoded into mkv sources using 5.1 AVC OR with more than 4 frames per ref, I do not know how many more times we all can say this. the lvl 4.1 trick only seems to work for 720p sources I have yet to see a 1080p 5.1 or more than 4 frames per reference mkv work on a ps3 by just remuxing. Also if b-pyramid is used to encode the 1080p mkv (which many persons still do) then it will also cause problems with just remuxing.

Why would there be a uninstall it doesn't install in the first place? Just delete the directory and unzip the files again.

Just because a mkv plays on your pc is in no way any test that it will work on your ps3. It is nothing that the mkv2vob program is doing that makes them not play, more that ffmpeg when it transcodes has issues with the video or audio portion of the mkv. Remember mkv2vob is basically a automated gui front end for tools that already exist. 3r1c did not write tsmuxer, h264info, mkvextract and merge, ffmpeg, tranzcode, besweet etc. he just uses them to the best of thier ability. if any of them fall down due to a poorly made (corrupted or non standard) mkv file then I would blame the mkv you are downloading not this program.

"Mkv2vob almost always has to reencode 1080p sources"

ok but most of us were under the impression that the whole point of L4.1 1080p x264 was that they didnt have to be transcoded like other 1080p x264.

"I do not know how many more times we all can say this. the lvl 4.1 trick only seems to work for 720p sources I have yet to see a 1080p 5.1 or more than 4 frames per reference mkv work on a ps3 by just remuxing"

ok thankyou for clarifying this but actually this is the first i'm hearing so i dont know where all the other times were. In fact all i've been hearing was contradicting info that l4.1 1080p x264 could be remuxed. what is the point of L4.1 720p x264? most of them can already be remuxed it was the 1080p x264 that were the problem.

as far as the uninstall of mkv2vob, yes thats fine that there isn't i prefer it that way, its an unobtrusive program, i was just trying to narror down where the problems i was having was coming from and making sure that I had the previous version with old version of tsMuxer removed completely. again frustration due to trying several times and not being sure where the problem is, as well i have an eSata drive that seems to be going slower then usb and freezing up the mouse.

"Just because a mkv plays on your pc is in no way any test that it will work on your ps3"

yes i know I was just trying to explain that it wasn't a bad mkv though you went on later to imply that that could be the problem.

"Remember mkv2vob is basically a automated gui front end for tools that already exist. "

yes I do realize this, either way some of these mkv (which again isn't bad and plays properly on the pc) do not come out as a working file on ps3 after using mkv2vob (and the programs its uses) and we were just trying to figure out why

[3r1c]

The L4.1 files are supposed to play without transcoding.
Its possible there is just something wrong with that file.

[Quatre]

The L4.1 files are supposed to play without transcoding.
Its possible there is just something wrong with that file.

so jamos was wrong. once again conflicting info on the thread confusing ppl.

[chubsta]

you could try to split the mkv first then run it through mkv2vob

I have tried using mkvtoolnix but having left it for over 12 hours it just sits there doing nothing, although my processor shows it to be running at 100%!!

Guess i am a bit stuck now....

[azyd]

Mkv2vob almost always has to reencode 1080p sources and uses ffmpeg to do so because they are encoded into mkv sources using 5.1 AVC OR with more than 4 frames per ref, I do not know how many more times we all can say this. the lvl 4.1 trick only seems to work for 720p sources I have yet to see a 1080p 5.1 or more than 4 frames per reference mkv work on a ps3 by just remuxing. Also if b-pyramid is used to encode the 1080p mkv (which many persons still do) then it will also cause problems with just remuxing.

Why would there be a uninstall it doesn't install in the first place? Just delete the directory and unzip the files again.

Just because a mkv plays on your pc is in no way any test that it will work on your ps3. It is nothing that the mkv2vob program is doing that makes them not play, more that ffmpeg when it transcodes has issues with the video or audio portion of the mkv. Remember mkv2vob is basically a automated gui front end for tools that already exist. 3r1c did not write tsmuxer, h264info, mkvextract and merge, ffmpeg, tranzcode, besweet etc. he just uses them to the best of thier ability. if any of them fall down due to a poorly made (corrupted or non standard) mkv file then I would blame the mkv you are downloading not this program.

most of the new 1080p movies are now being encoded with level 4.1 so theres no need for a "trick". just run then through mkv2vob and tell it to never encode and your fine.

[Quatre]

most of the new 1080p movies are now being encoded with level 4.1 so theres no need for a "trick". just run then through mkv2vob and tell it to never encode and your fine.

3rlc said you can do auto or never transcode with same result on 1080p L4.1 x264. auto is usually safest to get a working ps3 file (in case the mkv is wrongly labeled or something though more often it doenst say L4.1 in the title but does in the .nfo)

i'm going to try some more L4.1. i think the one i tried was messed up and i was having hdd problems that are now fixed.

I'm thankful to 3rlc for being clear and concise on the facts in addition to making the program.

[sportcenter]

i'm going to try some more L4.1. i think the one i tried was messed up and i was having hdd problems that are fixed.



azyd played that one fine along with a few others - and i have no idea how...the only reasonable explanation for the speedup and slowdown of the video would be the bitrate - but i was told the PS3 has no "definite" max bitrate - or it was limited to the device medium speed

i don't have a PS3 to test it on, but was told that it was fully compatible with L4.1 encodes...

[3r1c]

most of the new 1080p movies are now being encoded with level 4.1 so theres no need for a "trick". just run then through mkv2vob and tell it to never encode and your fine.

Please do not tell people to select never.
"Never" should not be used unless you have a reason for it.
Auto mode can detect it just fine.

The ONLY reason to select "never" is if you split the original mkv into smaller pieces.

[azyd]

Please do not tell people to select never.
"Never" should not be used unless you have a reason for it.
Auto mode can detect it just fine.

The ONLY reason to select "never" is if you split the original mkv into smaller pieces.

no problem. the only reason i said never transcode is because i had a couple 1080p level 4.1 that mkv2vob would transcode anyway, and when i told it to never transcode they worked fine.


everyone pay attention it is 3r1c program he will allways know better than i!!

[jamos]

so jamos was wrong. once again conflicting info on the thread confusing ppl.

Dude your on dangerious ground here, show me where I am wrong.

Everything I said is fact. 1080p 4.1 is just one of the things need to make a file play on the ps3 without remuxing there are others such as more than 4 ref. frames when it was encoded into a mkv (which shouldnt happen but could), using p-pyramid in encoding the mkv, etc. or like I SAID corrupted mkv.

I never mislead, just saying as backed up by 3r1c, that other issues than just 4.1 are your problem.

[jamos]

most of the new 1080p movies are now being encoded with level 4.1 so theres no need for a "trick". just run then through mkv2vob and tell it to never encode and your fine.

actually you want to use auto. If the movie is AVC 4.1 and encoded correctly into a mkv then it should work without transcoding.

[mxz600]

AHHHRGG so very frustrating!!! The last 2 movies I DLed in 720p mkv files do not work with mkv2vob or gotsent. POTC2 has AAC so that was a total waste of download ratio and now Star Wars 3. It says that SW3 is 25FPS and after h264 runs, it tries to remux it and just hangs. another 4 gigs of DL wasted. I wish I could understand what all this ment, 25fps or 23.976fps and L4.1 or L2.1 or ? I dunno. If the program don't do it automatically, then I cant get it to work using the GUI's of each different program.

I used gotsent to make two files with POTC2. An AAC file and a video.raw file. but tsmuxer wont put em together. And SW3 is 25FPS so thats it for that it seems. Both play excellent in MKV format on the computer though.

[Adub]

Take a look at rule #6.

[Quatre]

Dude your on dangerious ground here, show me where I am wrong.

Everything I said is fact. 1080p 4.1 is just one of the things need to make a file play on the ps3 without remuxing there are others such as more than 4 ref. frames when it was encoded into a mkv (which shouldnt happen but could), using p-pyramid in encoding the mkv, etc. or like I SAID corrupted mkv.

I never mislead, just saying as backed up by 3r1c, that other issues than just 4.1 are your problem.

dangerous ground?

you said a few posts back "Mkv2vob almost always has to reencode 1080p sources..."

and

"I do not know how many more times we all can say this. the lvl 4.1 trick only seems to work for 720p sources I have yet to see a 1080p 5.1 or more than 4 frames per reference mkv work on a ps3 by just remuxing"

then 3rlc said
"The L4.1 files are supposed to play without transcoding.
Its possible there is just something wrong with that file."

that sure looks contradictory to what you said or how you made it seem.

noone said there couldn't be other things that throw the program off or make it so the file cant be just remuxed. that was understood by most i think. point is you made it seem like every L4.1 1080p x264 needed to be transcoded when in fact as he cleared up they do not (meaning most of the time barring everything else with the file is normal) L4.1 1080p x264 can be remuxed to an avc of a similiar file size to the orig mkv and not need the lengthier transcode to mpeg-2 process and resulting 50% larger file.

[Quatre]

did my second L4.1 though it didn't say in the file name, rather the .nfo said it was Level 4.1



"Protégé.2007.1080p.DTS.x264.mkv" (note to Jamos:this is not a torrent and title info is mentioned to help other users and the author of the prog)

Runtime: 1:48:50
Size: 12.3GB
Resolution: 1912x816 (cropped properly, no stretching)
Codec: x264, Level 4.1
Bitrate: 14051 Kbit/s
Framerate: 23.976 fps
Audio: DTS 5.1 1536 Kbit/s, Cantonese
Audio: AC3 5.1 640 Kbit/s, Mandarin
Subtitles: English SRT
Source: Protege 2007 Blu-Ray 1080p H.264 LPCM 7.1 (thx chp)

Notes: This source does not compress well at all. I did my best
but some scenes are missing a tiny bit of grain compared to source.

x264 [info]: slice I:1934 Avg QP:20.23 size:225418
x264 [info]: slice P:102834 Avg QP:22.43 size: 94178
x264 [info]: slice B:51819 Avg QP:25.45 size: 26058"





shows up on ps3 via tversity as an mpeg-2 though. seemed to play fine but I didnt try it long enough to see if it had the intermittent fast forward (2x) playing that Across The Universe 1080p x264 had (not L4.1)

i know with We Own the Night it showed as a mpeg-2 via tversity on ps3 but then once copied to the ps3 hdd it was labeled as an AVC though still didn't play.

Shame that this Protege movie still ened up an mpeg-2 even though the .nfo says L4.1 and it went from a 12gb mkv to a 20gb mpeg-2 just like Across the Universe so i fear it may have the same intermittent ff play problem.

hopefully one of these L4.1 1080p x264 actually does what its supposed to and allows mkv2vob to make an AVC of similiar size to the mkv its made from and plays properly (without the intermittent 2x ff vid/audio) and doesn't need to transcode to mpeg-2.

but so far with just 2, I haven't had an L4.1 1080p x264 not need to be transcoded but i think this was just a conicidence of 2 files with other problems that cuased mkv2vob to need to transcode to mpeg-2 and i still believe 3rlc that most L4.1 1080p x264 should not need to be transcoded where as jamos says L4.1 is useless and mostly all 1080p x264 will need to be transcoded.

again contradictory info but sadly the 2 I have tried, one didn't play at all and other still needed to be transcoded and now I fear wont have the srt english subtitles available via ps3 and the movie is in chinese.

edit:

nope no subs on ps3 for:
Protégé.2007.1080p.BluRay.DTS.x264-SS.mkv

and there is no separate .srt sub file but the .nfo says srt subs. looks like we will need that new version of mkv2vob with subtitle support. not sure how its going to work but with wmv they just hard code the subs which sucks for all the Netherlands released wmv with hardcoded dutch subs which ruins the movie for ppl that dont know dutch but for some of these foreign movies like this one in chinese you need the hardcoded english subs so if mkv2vob just took the srt or whatever format subs and hardcoded them into the output mpeg-2 or avc file that would be fine.

also this 1080p x264 also seemed to have the intermittent 2x ff playing video/audio at times. :(

[Quatre]

is there a way to add subs somehow to an AVC or mpeg-2 .vob? i guess you would need the separate subtitle file (.srt or other) and many releases dont have it, its just part of the mkv but they dont show up on the ps3 with an mkv remuxed to avc or transcoded to mpeg-2 and no way to turn them on on the ps3.

[3r1c]

there is currently no way to get srt subtitles working on ps3.
except to reencode the video with the subs burned in.

[SKAPiter]

3r1c, have you tried muxing 2 audio streams into the vob? any luck? i am still hoping you will manage it somehow.

[Quatre]

just wanted to report that on my 3rd L4.1 1080p x264 (American Gangster) it did take awhile (prob cus of the dts audio) and ps3 sees it as an mpeg-2 but it is about the same size (even a bit smaller) then the orig mkv, so that is good news.

does it just make it an mpeg-2 becasue it had to transcode the dts audio? or will it always do that for the 1080p and the fact that its L4.1 is what allows it to be the same size about as the orig mkv?

i will have to see if copying it to the ps3 hdd shows causes the ps3 to then see it as an AVC. Also have to watch it a bit to see if the intermitten 2x ff video playing problem happens at all.

is it best to keep it as .vob or would renaming the mpeg-2 as .mpg and AVC files .mts or .m2ts help? i guess something like that alone wouldn't stop the itnermittent fast video/audio problem.

[mxz600]

What does it mean when I see 25FPS in the h264 alpha screen under ouput framrate? In the Log section it says 25fps is invalid for HD.

and of course when it tries to remux after the H264 part it just hangs.... frustrating because now this is the 3rd MKV file in a row to be 25fps. movie is the beach.

[jamos]

dangerous ground?

you said a few posts back "Mkv2vob almost always has to reencode 1080p sources..."

and

"I do not know how many more times we all can say this. the lvl 4.1 trick only seems to work for 720p sources I have yet to see a 1080p 5.1 or more than 4 frames per reference mkv work on a ps3 by just remuxing"

then 3rlc said
"The L4.1 files are supposed to play without transcoding.
Its possible there is just something wrong with that file."

that sure looks contradictory to what you said or how you made it seem.

noone said there couldn't be other things that throw the program off or make it so the file cant be just remuxed. that was understood by most i think. point is you made it seem like every L4.1 1080p x264 needed to be transcoded when in fact as he cleared up they do not (meaning most of the time barring everything else with the file is normal) L4.1 1080p x264 can be remuxed to an avc of a similiar file size to the orig mkv and not need the lengthier transcode to mpeg-2 process and resulting 50% larger file.

Everything I said is still true 5.1 1080p cannot be reMUXED to play on a ps3 nor can a 1080P with more than 4 references per frame.

and of course I know a better way to transcode, than ffmpeg that will result in a filesize equal to or less than the original mkv that plays fine on the ps3.

[jamos]

Take a look at rule #6.

hehe one user here even posted a actual torrent filename on this thread.:eek:

[jamos]

What does it mean when I see 25FPS in the h264 alpha screen under ouput framrate? In the Log section it says 25fps is invalid for HD.

and of course when it tries to remux after the H264 part it just hangs.... frustrating because now this is the 3rd MKV file in a row to be 25fps. movie is the beach.

most likely its PAL video. you could use x264 to change the framerate to standard 23.976 but that means transcoding.

[jamos]

Also to help you all if you download Mediainfo and open the mkv source it will tell you what AVC lvl the video stream is as well as tell you the actual x264 encoding options that were done to make the original mkv.

[3r1c]

The remuxed files will show as MPEG-2 on tversity even if they are actually AVC.
This is normal, it does not effect playback.

Please make sure you have tversity set to "Never" in Settings/Transcoder

[SKAPiter]

There is one thing that bugs me when I hear about "tversity". Maybe someone can enlighten me. Why would someone remux mkv to vob and then stream it via PS3 from a PC? Isn't it easier to connect the PC via DVItoHDMI converter (less than $10 now) and not bother buying PS3 and converting mkv to vob?

P.S. 3r1c, any porogress on multiple audio streams?

[natronicus]

SKAPiter, in my case:

1 - my PS3 is attached to my HDTV, my computer is not even in the same room

2 - the PS3 can decode high bitrate h.264 video streams without any hiccups, while my PC stutters from lack of enough processing power

[3r1c]

There are so many reasons

1. as already said PS3 connected to HDTV and PC in diff room.
2. ability to use the ps3 remote in front of the tv to select from a list of files.
3. doesnt use PC processor
4. can use the pc while a movie is playing.

Next version of mkv2vob will let you select audio language.

[Glorioso]

Next version of mkv2vob will let you select audio language.

And subtitles.... PLEASE!!!

[3r1c]

I could not get subtitles working because its not supported in tsmuxer.

[jamos]

I could not get subtitles working because its not supported in tsmuxer.

even if you could you could not select them from file playback in the ps3 correct? I know BD/AVCHD mode lets you choose subtitles.

[asif9t9]

What is the deal with how the PS3 handles subtitles? I mean, you can choose to see subs if you were watching a Bluray disc, or even a standard DVD, correct? It surprises me that there's no subtitle option when watching any other video file. Neither an option to change audio tracks.

[jamos]

What is the deal with how the PS3 handles subtitles? I mean, you can choose to see subs if you were watching a Bluray disc, or even a standard DVD, correct? It surprises me that there's no subtitle option when watching any other video file. Neither an option to change audio tracks.

Yes DVDs/AVCHD/BD disks playing on the PS3 all support multiple audio tracks and subtitles, as well as DTS.

[3r1c]

I suspect the ps3 wouldnt play it even if tsmuxer supports it.

tsmuxer will mux h264 + DTS but the DTS wont play on the ps3.

[kmitalian]

I have tested the DTS part out on the PS3 and i know the reason why!!!!.

I have tested DTS from a simple MPEG2 + DTS VOB and it doesn't work.

Recently DTS have commented that they are working with Sony to enable DTS-HD Master Audio to be decoded from Blu-Ray to MCH PCM 7.1 through HDMI.

This is why, DTS have not totally opened up the DTS decoder at this stage through the XMB, as you know Dolby can cause Sony has got the rights for it, and as you can see TrueHD is decoded into PCM 7.1, once DTS have gotten on board with Sony, its a simple firmware upgrade and then DTS shall be open for us mkv2vob people who want to have DTS through it.

It shall probably be this year when DTS shall be on board.

[jamos]

I suspect the ps3 wouldnt play it even if tsmuxer supports it.

tsmuxer will mux h264 + DTS but the DTS wont play on the ps3.


Btw 3r1c have you tried using x264 with nalhrd addon? it works so much better than ffmpeg for me with transcoding bluray/hd, if you do not use the macroblock options it is about as fast also. You can always set the avg. bitrate to the original it was encoded with by using mediainfo command line interface to extract all the original encoding options to get a transcode of the exact size. then you could just use tsmuxer to mux the audio and transcoded video to a .ts file that plays excellent on the ps3 that would be around the same size as the original mkv file. if you want a x264 command line that will work I can provide you one.

[3r1c]

Btw 3r1c have you tried using x264 with nalhrd addon? it works so much better than ffmpeg for me with transcoding bluray/hd, if you do not use the macroblock options it is about as fast also. You can always set the avg. bitrate to the original it was encoded with by using mediainfo command line interface to extract all the original encoding options to get a transcode of the exact size. then you could just use tsmuxer to mux the audio and transcoded video to a .ts file that plays excellent on the ps3 that would be around the same size as the original mkv file. if you want a x264 command line that will work I can provide you one.

I know about that, but there is a good reason i dont use it.

x264 encoding is much slower compared to mpeg2.
and if you have a fast enough computer to encode it, then you probably have enough disc space for mpeg2's larger files.

[nunyabuizness]

The L4.1 files are supposed to play without transcoding.
Its possible there is just something wrong with that file.

This is the question I was trying to get answered.

Lucky for me, any 1080p source I have tried works.
i split the 1080p file into multiple files because with my 13gb casino royale it seemed that once it got to a certain size, it would not write to the new file anymore. Also, I always set mkv2vob to auto.

3r1c, the question I was trying to get answered is if you know what causes the tools in mkv2vob to transcode the h264 into a bigger mpeg-2 even if the h264 is already L4.1 (sorry if im being redundant).

[3r1c]

In the latest version of x264 released in Jan/Feb 08 (x264 - core 58 svn-736M) has changed the way the ref frames passed to the encoder is calculated, but it does not provide this changed information in the x264 header added to the resulting video file (well to be specific, it was the old version that made the incorrect header, so i guess x264 corrected this bug in the latest version).

basically, any video encoded with core58 version is more likely to be level 4.1 compliant then if the same command line was used with an older version, but since it does not write the changes to the header mkv2vob does not detect it and thinks the file is unplayable.

the next version of mkv2vob will work around this by using the x264 version in the headers to decide which calculation method to use.

for now, if you know for sure its L4.1, select "never transcode".

[jamos]

In the latest version of x264 released in Jan/Feb 08 (x264 - core 58 svn-736M) has changed the way the ref frames passed to the encoder is calculated, but it does not provide this changed information in the x264 header added to the resulting video file (well to be specific, it was the old version that made the incorrect header, so i guess x264 corrected this bug in the latest version).

basically, any video encoded with core58 version is more likely to be level 4.1 compliant then if the same command line was used with an older version, but since it does not write the changes to the header mkv2vob does not detect it and thinks the file is unplayable.

the next version of mkv2vob will work around this by using the x264 version in the headers to decide which calculation method to use.

for now, if you know for sure its L4.1, select "never transcode".

couldnt you use the command line version of mediainfo that shows the encoding options that were used to make the mkv plus shows the avc level? this would be easier and most likely more accurate than interogating the header of the file I would think.

[3r1c]

couldnt you use the command line version of mediainfo that shows the encoding options that were used to make the mkv plus shows the avc level? this would be easier and most likely more accurate than interogating the header of the file I would think.

mediainfo reads the x264 header the same as mkv2vob does.

[jamos]

mediainfo reads the x264 header the same as mkv2vob does.

ok then you would have the same issues hehe. it looks like you can still get the avc lvl from the split files using mediainfo though, I am seeing lvl 5.1 on the 2nd and 3rd split files.

example of output from the 3rd splitfile from mkvmerge using mediainfo

General #0
Complete name : G:\video-002.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 3.91 GiB
PlayTime : 44mn 28s
Bit rate : 13 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2008-02-21 23:32:27
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.1.0 ('Another Place To Fall') built on Aug 19 2007 13:40:07
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video #0
Codec : AVC
Codec/Family : AVC
Codec/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Codec profile : High@L5.1
Codec settings, CABAC : Yes
PlayTime : 44mn 25s
Bit rate : 11 Mbps
Width : 1920 pixels
Height : 800 pixels
Display Aspect ratio : 2.400
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Chroma : 4:2:0
Interlacement : Progressive
Language : English

Audio #0
Codec : DTS
Bit rate : 1536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, Subwoofer
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Resolution : 24 bits
Language : English

Text #0
Codec : UTF-8
Codec/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Language : English

[Quatre]

Everything I said is still true 5.1 1080p cannot be reMUXED to play on a ps3 nor can a 1080P with more than 4 references per frame.

and of course I know a better way to transcode, than ffmpeg that will result in a filesize equal to or less than the original mkv that plays fine on the ps3.

""I do not know how many more times we all can say this. the lvl 4.1 trick only seems to work for 720p sources"

that part is not true so dont say everything you said is true. as 3rlc stated, l4.1 1080p mkvs do not need to be transcoded.

i dont know why you are trying to twist words and confuse ppl but now that you said you know a better way to transcode then ffmpeg (which mkv2vob uses) it seems more clear that you are trying to confuse ppl and put down mkv2vob so its really not appreciated.

if you "know of a better way" or have suggestions to the author of the program this thread is about and its users then by all be means. but just to say you know better ways and try to twist words to make it seem like all 1080p x264 have to be transcoded when in fact a proper l4.1 1080p mkv does not need to be, you are just being difficult to say the least.

[hangemhigh]

no problem. the only reason i said never transcode is because i had a couple 1080p level 4.1 that mkv2vob would transcode anyway, and when i told it to never transcode they worked fine.


everyone pay attention it is 3r1c program he will allways know better than i!!

Same exact thing i came across, set to auto the 1080pL4.1 transcoded, set to never they didn't, and resulting movies played fine

[3r1c]

The level shown there is just whats set in the h264 but it may be completely wrong, its useless actually.

To calculate the actual level you need to know the value for width/heigh/refs/bframes/b_pyramid

[Quatre]

The remuxed files will show as MPEG-2 on tversity even if they are actually AVC.
This is normal, it does not effect playback.

Please make sure you have tversity set to "Never" in Settings/Transcoder

ok thankyou, seems even when you copy it to the ps3 hdd, it still labels the video file as mpg but whats important is that is similiar size to the original mkv where as you know its been transcoded to mpeg-2 when its double.

would changing the .vob to .mts or .m2ts cause ps3 to label it as an AVC correctly.

anyway i just also wanted to report that other l4.1 1080p x264 did work perfectly without transcoding. It was just the one that had some problems and 3rlc what it was and said he can make an adjustment to the program as well to not have a problem with that type of file.

[Quatre]

There is one thing that bugs me when I hear about "tversity". Maybe someone can enlighten me. Why would someone remux mkv to vob and then stream it via PS3 from a PC? Isn't it easier to connect the PC via DVItoHDMI converter (less than $10 now) and not bother buying PS3 and converting mkv to vob?

P.S. 3r1c, any porogress on multiple audio streams?

why is it always so hard for ppl to understand that many ppl dont have a pc connected to their main tv?

if you are a bachelor and live in a studio apartment with your pc and tv and all in one room sure.

but if you have a home office on 2nd floor of your house for example, with pc in it with 20" monitor and normal office chair that you dont want to watch movies in. and then on first floor family room you have your main large screen 1080p tv that doesn;t really have room for nor does your wife want you setting up a pc to it.

also dvi to hdmi isn't as good as hdmi to hdmi. some ppl have laptops yeah but even with hdmi out laptop, its not going to be as good as a media player device. even the normal ps3 controller is better then running down to the floor to use the laptop to start and pause the video etc.

I dont know why so late in the thread i have to explain all this because if you aren't interested in video playback on your ps3 then why are you in this thread?

and for the arguement of why not just use a dedicated media player device that does x264 like the popcorn hour, tivx (6500 being one of the newest) and other similiar devices, well my answer to that would be personally i was interested in both of those but they both are back ordered for one and one is $400.

I got a ps3 for playback of footage from my AVCHD camcorder and my ps3 really had no other use as i use 360 for games. This gives ps3 another use and I like it for video playback. The ability to copy video files to the ps3 hard drive which is upgradeable (largest avail 320gb 2.5" sata in mine) is something the 360 cant do. As far as streaming it from pc, well thats just easier for some ppl but personally i dont like to stream at all and so i dont. i like to be able to shut down the pc and have my video files not depend on the pc and be watched via ext. usb hdd or from the ps3 internal.

And if you already have a 360 and ps3, you maybe dont want to be another device just for media when between the 360 and ps3 you really can do it all and dont need one of those.

hope this explains it once and for all and ppl dont bother asking why ppl want to use ps3 to playback x264 mkv.

[Quatre]

I have tested the DTS part out on the PS3 and i know the reason why!!!!.

I have tested DTS from a simple MPEG2 + DTS VOB and it doesn't work.

Recently DTS have commented that they are working with Sony to enable DTS-HD Master Audio to be decoded from Blu-Ray to MCH PCM 7.1 through HDMI.

This is why, DTS have not totally opened up the DTS decoder at this stage through the XMB, as you know Dolby can cause Sony has got the rights for it, and as you can see TrueHD is decoded into PCM 7.1, once DTS have gotten on board with Sony, its a simple firmware upgrade and then DTS shall be open for us mkv2vob people who want to have DTS through it.

It shall probably be this year when DTS shall be on board.

good news.

as far as subs. for english speaking ppl, its mostly just needed for foreign films that are in another language. I know with wmv you just get a version with hard coded english subs and its perfect. when working with an x264 mkv that has the subs maybe there is a way mkv2vob can just hardcode the subs also onto the new resulting avc or mpeg-2 file?

i guess for just the remux to avc it couldn't but for the transcode to mpeg-2 it could? since that is the same as encoding mkv to wmv but actually takes much less time.

[Quatre]

This is the question I was trying to get answered.

Lucky for me, any 1080p source I have tried works.
i split the 1080p file into multiple files because with my 13gb casino royale it seemed that once it got to a certain size, it would not write to the new file anymore. Also, I always set mkv2vob to auto.

3r1c, the question I was trying to get answered is if you know what causes the tools in mkv2vob to transcode the h264 into a bigger mpeg-2 even if the h264 is already L4.1 (sorry if im being redundant).

hm maybe that is what happened with non l4.1 1080p x264, started as a 12gb mkv and resulted in a 20gb mpeg-2 after mkv2vob. maybe its too large of a file and that is what causes the intermittent fast forward play?

as far as it resulting in a larger file then it probably wasn't a l4.1 or had some other problem and was transcoded.

i had trouble with one l4.1 mkv that didn't play at all. but other l4.1 1080p x264 mkv's came out as a file similiar (even a bit smaller prob due to dts) then the orig mkv. ps3 still labels it as an mpg (or mpeg-2 if orget) but 3rlc says its an avc and i think if you look at the info on ps3 it says avc for video codec.

as someoen mentioned there is other factors possible that could cause an l4.1 to still need to be transcoded (though most done properly wont need to be) that or it wasnt really l4.1 and just labeled improperly.

[Quatre]

In the latest version of x264 released in Jan/Feb 08 (x264 - core 58 svn-736M) has changed the way the ref frames passed to the encoder is calculated, but it does not provide this changed information in the x264 header added to the resulting video file (well to be specific, it was the old version that made the incorrect header, so i guess x264 corrected this bug in the latest version).

basically, any video encoded with core58 version is more likely to be level 4.1 compliant then if the same command line was used with an older version, but since it does not write the changes to the header mkv2vob does not detect it and thinks the file is unplayable.

the next version of mkv2vob will work around this by using the x264 version in the headers to decide which calculation method to use.

for now, if you know for sure its L4.1, select "never transcode".

ack i've been using auto, but luckily they still came out ok so they prob didnt have the problem or i would notice the larger file size.

so as not to trust the file name or .nfo, what is the best prog to see if its truely l4.1? i think someone mentioned a prog a few posts back.

I know Super, shows info on the video file, and has an advancded details option, i will have to see if that shows l4.1 or not.

[Quatre]

Same exact thing i came across, set to auto the 1080pL4.1 transcoded, set to never they didn't, and resulting movies played fine

a few posts up from yours
3rlc said:
In the latest version of x264 released in Jan/Feb 08 (x264 - core 58 svn-736M) has changed the way the ref frames passed to the encoder is calculated, but it does not provide this changed information in the x264 header added to the resulting video file (well to be specific, it was the old version that made the incorrect header, so i guess x264 corrected this bug in the latest version).

basically, any video encoded with core58 version is more likely to be level 4.1 compliant then if the same command line was used with an older version, but since it does not write the changes to the header mkv2vob does not detect it and thinks the file is unplayable.

the next version of mkv2vob will work around this by using the x264 version in the headers to decide which calculation method to use.

for now, if you know for sure its L4.1, select "never transcode".

[nunyabuizness]

hm maybe that is what happened with non l4.1 1080p x264, started as a 12gb mkv and resulted in a 20gb mpeg-2 after mkv2vob. maybe its too large of a file and that is what causes the intermittent fast forward play?

as far as it resulting in a larger file then it probably wasn't a l4.1 or had some other problem and was transcoded.

i had trouble with one l4.1 mkv that didn't play at all. but other l4.1 1080p x264 mkv's came out as a file similiar (even a bit smaller prob due to dts) then the orig mkv. ps3 still labels it as an mpg (or mpeg-2 if orget) but 3rlc says its an avc and i think if you look at the info on ps3 it says avc for video codec.

as someoen mentioned there is other factors possible that could cause an l4.1 to still need to be transcoded (though most done properly wont need to be) that or it wasnt really l4.1 and just labeled improperly.

what do you mean "though most done properly wont need to be"? what would qualify a L4.1 to still need to be transcoded if *blank* was done properly? what goes in the blank?

im just trying to get this answered so that i could use tsmuxer to make a avchd dvd without alot of conversion (because tsmuxer can change the level, but its no use if the file still needs to be transcoded in which case i would just use mkv2vob)

[3r1c]

you wont be able to make a working avchd conversion or not.
unless you use x264 to recompress with blu-ray compatible settings.

the requirements for the video stream are much more strict for avchd then if you just play it from a file off the XMB.

[nunyabuizness]

you wont be able to make a working avchd conversion or not.
unless you use x264 to recompress with blu-ray compatible settings.

the requirements for the video stream are much more strict for avchd then if you just play it from a file off the XMB.

i got the x264 and leimings x264 gui but i dont know how to convert it to bluray compatible data.
the only reason im adamant about doing this is because an avchd dvd just appeals to me so much more than a file on a dvd (im kinda OCD)

like i said, i want to use the tsmuxer and tsremux to output bluray files and folders to make semi-professional dvds but dont get me wrong, mkv2vob is probably the best software ive ever used for this purpose

[evilmonkeys]

This is a fantastic tool and I've been using it extensively the last week! Thanks for the work on this.

A quick technical question:

I tried running an h.264 encoded sample clip of Attack of the Clones through this program and the video was re-encoded to mpeg-2. Apparently, the source file is PAL formatted to 25fps and would not be compatible with my NTSC PS3. If I skip the transcode altogether, the file will play with a blank screen but with sound.

My question is not "when will the ps3 be able to play this file without the transcode," but why can't the PS3 play AVC files at 25fps?

On the other hand, I ripped a PAL DVD quite some time ago and extracted the mpeg video directly. The PS3 will play the raw mpeg file, but not the disc itself (stripped of region coding).

Is it the vob container that prevents 25fps playback or something else? I'm just trying to get a better handle on what's happening in this case.

On second thought, the file is 1080p. Perhaps mkv2vob simply has to transcode the 1080p video and the fps is immaterial. Will a 25 fps h264 720p file need to be transcoded to 24/30 fps for the PS3 to recognize it?

[3r1c]

This is a fantastic tool and I've been using it extensively the last week! Thanks for the work on this.

A quick technical question:

I tried running an h.264 encoded sample clip of Attack of the Clones through this program and the video was re-encoded to mpeg-2. Apparently, the source file is PAL formatted to 25fps and would not be compatible with my NTSC PS3. If I skip the transcode altogether, the file will play with a blank screen but with sound.

My question is not "when will the ps3 be able to play this file without the transcode," but why can't the PS3 play AVC files at 25fps?

On the other hand, I ripped a PAL DVD quite some time ago and extracted the mpeg video directly. The PS3 will play the raw mpeg file, but not the disc itself (stripped of region coding).

Is it the vob container that prevents 25fps playback or something else? I'm just trying to get a better handle on what's happening in this case.

On second thought, the file is 1080p. Perhaps mkv2vob simply has to transcode the 1080p video and the fps is immaterial. Will a 25 fps h264 720p file need to be transcoded to 24/30 fps for the PS3 to recognize it?

PAL/NTSC only applies to games/bluray/dvd not files.
It will work!

Yes it does not work with never because it needs transcoding, thats why auto mode wanted to transcode it.

[3r1c]

V2.0.0 beta 22/Feb/2008
Im making this a beta because its untested with windows xp (i only have vista)
Completely new GUI with tons of features so I probably forgot to list them all.
Allows set temp directory.
Set preferred audio language.
File splitting (FAT32, DVD-R etc...)
Select a rar file and it automatically unrar and convert the mkv.
Queue multiple files for batch processing.
Queue entire directory for batch processing.
Support files with AAC audio (converts to AC3).
Checks if enough free disk space before each step.
Faster mpeg2 transcoding.
Automatically checks for and downloads updates each time its started.
Fixed bug with mpeg2 stuttering in the beginning and then out of sync.
Fixed bug with files encoded with latest x264.exe might be unnecessarily transcoded.
KNOWN BUG: tsmuxer crashes after muxing mpeg2 video, i have worked around this for vista by autoclose the crash window, for xp you probably have to click end task manually.
KNOWN BUG: split files might have a few seconds of video corruption in the beginning, i dont know how to find the keyframes sorry, i worked around this by duplicating the first few seconds at the end of the previous file.
POSSIBLE BUG: The filesize used for splitting is done using file sizes from specifications on wikipedia, i have not tested if it actually fits on fat32,dvd-r etc..
WARNING: Be careful with the "delete file/folder" after convert option, it might not detect all possible failures/crashes of the conversion tools.

http://www.3r1c.eu/mkv2vob/mkv2vob.exe

[Quatre]

what do you mean "though most done properly wont need to be"? what would qualify a L4.1 to still need to be transcoded if *blank* was done properly? what goes in the blank?

im just trying to get this answered so that i could use tsmuxer to make a avchd dvd without alot of conversion (because tsmuxer can change the level, but its no use if the file still needs to be transcoded in which case i would just use mkv2vob)

what would cause a L4.1 1080p mkv to still need to be transcoded. Apparently if it has more than 4 references per frame is one thing.

I'm not really the expert on that, jamos seems to be the naysayer on L4.1 going as far as to say that no 1080p L4.1 x264 could just be remuxed but then tried to backtrack on his words and twist them up.

He may be right about the 4 ref per frame thing and I think he mentioned one other thing that could cause a L4.1 1080p mkv to still need to be transcoded but it seems rare and mostly all of the L4.1 1080p x264 have worked for ppl so dont worry about it.

only one didn't and it wasn't any of the reasons he listed but rather a problem with the file combined with how mkv2vob read it and is fixed by selecting never transcode or will be fixed in general in the next version.

[Quatre]

V2.0.0 beta 22/Feb/2008
Im making this a beta because its untested with windows xp (i only have vista)
Completely new GUI with tons of features so I probably forgot to list them all.
Allows set temp directory.
Set preferred audio language.
File splitting (FAT32, DVD-R etc...)
Select a rar file and it automatically unrar and convert the mkv.
Queue multiple files for batch processing.
Queue entire directory for batch processing.
Support files with AAC audio (converts to AC3).
Checks if enough free disk space before each step.
Faster mpeg2 transcoding.
Automatically checks for and downloads updates each time its started.
Fixed bug with mpeg2 stuttering in the beginning and then out of sync.
Fixed bug with files encoded with latest x264.exe might be unnecessarily transcoded.
KNOWN BUG: tsmuxer crashes after muxing mpeg2 video, i have worked around this for vista by autoclose the crash window, for xp you probably have to click end task manually.
KNOWN BUG: split files might have a few seconds of video corruption in the beginning, i dont know how to find the keyframes sorry, i worked around this by duplicating the first few seconds at the end of the previous file.
POSSIBLE BUG: The filesize used for splitting is done using file sizes from specifications on wikipedia, i have not tested if it actually fits on fat32,dvd-r etc..
WARNING: Be careful with the "delete file/folder" after convert option, it might not detect all possible failures/crashes of the conversion tools.

http://www.3r1c.eu/mkv2vob/mkv2vob.exe

sweet. but wow usually everything works with XP and not with vista. I have vista 64 but never use it because a lot of progs dont work. maybe sp1 next month will be better but for now i'm sticking with XP.

if it works in Vista it prob works in XP, just often not the other way around and if your using 32bit Vista then its prob definately fine in 32bit XP.

[3r1c]

what would cause a L4.1 1080p mkv to still need to be transcoded. Apparently if it has more than 4 references per frame is one thing.

for x264.exe before the core 58 version the limit is 1 or 2 ref frames.
for the latest version core 58 its 4 ref frames.

[mmace]

I know it's against the programmes name, but for the videos it transcodes to MPEG2 could we have the option of making it a .mpg file rather than .vob?
I can then deliberately force transcode a few files I want and they will be more compatible with other software (so I can make my own BDMV's)

[Quatre]

ppl have suggested making it output a diff file name depending on what it had to do
ie.
.mpg if it had to to transcode to mpeg-2 or .mts or .m2ts if it just remuxed to AVC

this would be helpful so you would know what it did if you werent' there to watch to see if it transcoded or not

[Quatre]

for x264.exe before the core 58 version the limit is 1 or 2 ref frames.
for the latest version core 58 its 4 ref frames.

ok cool, so it will be even less likely now that any L4.1 1080p x264 needs to be transcoded (not that i ever came across any but jamos listed this as one of the reasons L4.1 1080p 264 would still need to be transcoded)

so should we still be hitting never transcode for L4.1 to make sure mkv2vob doesnt' transcode anyway even though it doesnt' really have to?

also does it still cause ps3 to label it as an mpeg-2? but i'm assuming my L4.1 1080p x264 that i used auto on that are labeled by ps3 as mpg are really an AVC because the file size is same (or smaller then the orig mkv) where as a real mpeg-2 would be double the size.

[3r1c]

I know it's against the programmes name, but for the videos it transcodes to MPEG2 could we have the option of making it a .mpg file rather than .vob?
I can then deliberately force transcode a few files I want and they will be more compatible with other software (so I can make my own BDMV's)

v2 lets you select the file extension.

[Quatre]

ack, you can't change auto, always or never transcode option per file though as you add them

had it set to auto but doing a l4.1 1080p x264 i wanted to change it to never

had to change it in teh config tab but now i have the same file added twice, once with auto, once with never and you can't remove an added file

would have to close the whole prog which would stop the current file being done and start over

so first suggestion would be the ability to select auto, always or never transcode per file as you add them not just in the config tab or at least be able to remove a file from the queue

edit:
selecting never transcode in v2 for a L4.1 1080p x264 it says "could not parse mkv file" under status. is this normal? crap even after turning it back to auto it says the same thing. maybe ctrl+alt+del to close mkv2vob in the middle of trying it last time on auto when i wanted never transcode selected messed up the mkv?

ill have unrar it again and try mkv2vob v2 again this time on never transcode. ugh. why would alt ctrl delete ending mkv2vob v2 (hitting X on the prog just minimized) mess up the mkv?

edit again:
ah i had to ctrl alt del to end mkvextract. luckily i remembered that and saw that in there. i couldn;t delete the mkv file and unrar again as someting was using it so luckily ending mkvextract then mkv2vob v2 starts working again without having to unrar the mkv again.

[Quatre]

"Run-time error '6;:

Overflow"


just got that error on a l4.1 1080p x264 after verifying it was l4.1 and selecting never transcode in mkv2vob v2.0 beta.

and this is after letting it run for a pretty long time and so there is no new file to be seen. what a waste

no i have to see if it was cus i selected never transcode or if the older version 1.5.3 will work on it or what. ugh

[pmluke]

When selcting file split with the new version only the first split will play, the 2nd will only play audio. Any idea how to make this work

Thanks

[Renzz]

When selcting file split with the new version only the first split will play, the 2nd will only play audio. Any idea how to make this work

Thanks

Have the same problem. Have a 4.5GB MKV (ie one whole DVD5) and set it to split at DVD5 and create a VOB. I ended up with a 2GB Vob (which played ok) and one of about 280MB which only had audio. Turned off splitting, and it worked correctly producing a 4.8 GB VOB.

[p4t0z3u]

Just thanks for the new version.

Will give it a try @ home tonight.

[jamos]

""I do not know how many more times we all can say this. the lvl 4.1 trick only seems to work for 720p sources"

that part is not true so dont say everything you said is true. as 3rlc stated, l4.1 1080p mkvs do not need to be transcoded.

i dont know why you are trying to twist words and confuse ppl but now that you said you know a better way to transcode then ffmpeg (which mkv2vob uses) it seems more clear that you are trying to confuse ppl and put down mkv2vob so its really not appreciated.

if you "know of a better way" or have suggestions to the author of the program this thread is about and its users then by all be means. but just to say you know better ways and try to twist words to make it seem like all 1080p x264 have to be transcoded when in fact a proper l4.1 1080p mkv does not need to be, you are just being difficult to say the least.


Ok this is the last reply to you I will ever make. Sir you need to get your facts straight before you go calling other posters idiots and accusing me of posting confusing information. Also you need not to break Rule 6 by posting illegal torrent download filenames in your multiple posts.


the lvl 4.1 trick only seems to work for 720p sources

is true, just because you do not understand what it is does not make it false. the 4.1 trick is setting the AVC lvl to 4.1 from a 5.1 encoded source. 1080p 5.1 using the 4.1 AVC trick using H264info and remuxing does not work. So let me rephrase this "Everything I said is still true to persons that can understand it". The point you bring up with LVL 4.1 AVC 1080p encoded sources has nothing to do with the LVL 4.1 trick as you would just remux without changing the lvl.

the author knows of the better way but he does not like the time tradeoff compared to ffmpeg. I respect this decision as the time cost is significant.

Have a good day.

[DiRTDOG]

Thanks for the update! I have encountered an error on 30.Days.of.Night.2007.BluRay.1080p.DTS.x264
"Run-time error '6;:

Overflow"
not sure why, so I am just trying to give info. THanks for the hard work

Im running XP Pro.

[jamos]

The level shown there is just whats set in the h264 but it may be completely wrong, its useless actually.

To calculate the actual level you need to know the value for width/heigh/refs/bframes/b_pyramid

kk thanks good to know.

[jamos]

what do you mean "though most done properly wont need to be"? what would qualify a L4.1 to still need to be transcoded if *blank* was done properly? what goes in the blank?

im just trying to get this answered so that i could use tsmuxer to make a avchd dvd without alot of conversion (because tsmuxer can change the level, but its no use if the file still needs to be transcoded in which case i would just use mkv2vob)

You may want to look at my post here on how to create AVCHD it may be easier.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=134348

[3r1c]

Can you tell me exactly what point there is the overflow.
What does it say under the "Status" column.

Quatre: you can select auto/never/always per file.
Goto config tab, change it, add a file, go back change it again, add another file etc...
The settings which are used are the ones at the time the file was added.

EDIT: Splitting is completely not working.
I only tested it on a 100mb sample, split into 10mb pieces which worked fine.
Seems VB has a 2gb file limit which messes it up, i will need to rewrite it to use windows API functions.

[DiRTDOG]

Can you tell me exactly what point there is the overflow.
What does it say under the "Status" column.

For me the error happens right before mkv extract is done.
Status says "MKV Extract"

EDIT: Just had the same issue with this one.
Run.Fat.Boy.Run.2007.720p.BluRay.x264

[zeroprobe]

Thanks for the update! I have encountered an error on 30.Days.of.Night.2007.BluRay.1080p.DTS.x264
"Run-time error '6;:

Overflow"
not sure why, so I am just trying to give info. THanks for the hard work

Im running XP Pro.

same issue. This is level 4.1 too.

running vista64.

[Quatre]

Ok this is the last reply to you I will ever make. Sir you need to get your facts straight before you go calling other posters idiots and accusing me of posting confusing information. Also you need not to break Rule 6 by posting illegal torrent download filenames in your multiple posts.




is true, just because you do not understand what it is does not make it false. the 4.1 trick is setting the AVC lvl to 4.1 from a 5.1 encoded source. 1080p 5.1 using the 4.1 AVC trick using H264info and remuxing does not work. So let me rephrase this "Everything I said is still true to persons that can understand it". The point you bring up with LVL 4.1 AVC 1080p encoded sources has nothing to do with the LVL 4.1 trick as you would just remux without changing the lvl.

the author knows of the better way but he does not like the time tradeoff compared to ffmpeg. I respect this decision as the time cost is significant.

Have a good day.

i did not post any torrents at all and i do not use them so I dont know what your talking about. i only said idiot once out of frustration due to someone posting mis-information that screwed ppl up and wasted time. I take back that you are pitting yourself against this program as later it seemed like you were trying to help but some of your posts seemed like you were puting it down and you did twist words enough to make it sound like you were saying l4.1 1080p mkv's still needed to be transcoded among other things and did confuse ppl. Overall your post is very rude and we dont need that here.

sorry for any misunderstanding on my part but you are a bit out of line so I hope you can relax and understand where i'm coming from.

[Quatre]

Thanks for the update! I have encountered an error on 30.Days.of.Night.2007.BluRay.1080p.DTS.x264
"Run-time error '6;:

Overflow"
not sure why, so I am just trying to give info. THanks for the hard work

Im running XP Pro.

using mkv2vob 2.0 beta right?

selected auto or never transcode?

I got the same error using 2.0 beta, selecting never transcode and using XP pro.

I guess i'm going to go back to the old version and try again.

[Quatre]

Can you tell me exactly what point there is the overflow.
What does it say under the "Status" column.

Quatre: you can select auto/never/always per file.
Goto config tab, change it, add a file, go back change it again, add another file etc...
The settings which are used are the ones at the time the file was added.

EDIT: Splitting is completely not working.
I only tested it on a 100mb sample, split into 10mb pieces which worked fine.
Seems VB has a 2gb file limit which messes it up, i will need to rewrite it to use windows API functions.

i think once one file was already being processed it didnt let me change it, so i guess you can only change it when you are not processing any files, otherwise any you add while one is processing will be with the same options. i could be wrong, but also i couldn't remove a file that had the wrong option selected without closing the whole prog and mkvextract using alt ctrl del

My 'Run time error 6, overflow' happened at the very end after the file processed for a good amount of time, i forget what it said in the status column but it was near the end so must have been past mkvextract that the other person had but it didn't output any file after all that either.

Seems ppl got the same error with xp and vista so i'm just going to go back to v 1.5.3 for now as that was working fine for the most part. With 1.5.3, we do in fact want to select never transcode for files we know are l4.1 (as verified in mediainfo) right?

[DiRTDOG]

using mkv2vob 2.0 beta right?

selected auto or never transcode?

I got the same error using 2.0 beta, selecting never transcode and using XP pro.

I guess i'm going to go back to the old version and try again.

Yes, using 2.0 beta/auto transcode. I just kept all the defaults.

Im sure it will get worked out. I will just use old version in the meantime also.

Thanks for the help.

[Gameruk]

am using the new beta ver ive done 2 the brave one 1080p and run fat boy run 720P and am using xp pro,the brave one didnt work right with the other ver,it completed it but when i went to watch it it went slow then fast but sound stayed in sync.every thing was on default work perfect for me m8.

[3r1c]

V2.0.1 beta 22/Feb/2008
Added boost AAC/DTS volume option.
Fixed overflow crash.
Fixed file splitting cut off after 2gb.

[Glorioso]

3r1c, with the "Always transcode" can i add subtitles with FDDSHOW?:confused:

[3r1c]

no. maybe in some future version.
mkv2vob does not use ffdshow it uses mencoder for mpeg2.

edit: mencoder has hardcode subtitles option, ill check this out sunday/monday when i have some free time.

[maxpontello]

no. maybe in some future version.
mkv2vob does not use ffdshow it uses mencoder for mpeg2.

edit: mencoder has hardcode subtitles option, ill check this out sunday/monday when i have some free time.

Thanks Man, a lot of people are looking forward you include subs support into your faboulous piece of software :thanks:

[Glorioso]

no. maybe in some future version.
mkv2vob does not use ffdshow it uses mencoder for mpeg2.

edit: mencoder has hardcode subtitles option, ill check this out sunday/monday when i have some free time.

That would be nice.

I noticed that now wee can use diferent containers, are they 360 compatible?

[3r1c]

there is no way to get 5.1 audio and h264 to work on xbox 360, its one or the other.

maybe when microsoft comes out with a blu-ray drive m2ts will be playable

[bigggt]

just tried to install the new beta but Nod32 reports a virus

newHeur_PE virus

any ideas

[WicKeDcHilD]

just downloaded the new beta and ohh it looks sexy! Just running my first test with it, looks good!

[asif9t9]

Love the new GUI 3rc1. Worked nice on two new movies. Beowulf and We Own The Night. The batch style worked well.

Unfortunately my two other movies, with AAC sound, still don't work. The progress bar moves for MKV Extract, but as soon as the progress changes to "Extract AAC", I get the error message. Ratatouille from NHaNC3, and Shooter from Nemo.

[3r1c]

just tried to install the new beta but Nod32 reports a virus

newHeur_PE virus

any ideas

im guessing it doesnt like that its packed with UPX (upx.sourceforge.net).

http://www.eset.com/threat-center/pedia/system/prob_unk.htm

EDIT: do you have latest updates for nod32.
I just tested it with online scanner and it passes with nod32 2008.02.22

[3r1c]

Love the new GUI 3rc1. Worked nice on two new movies. Beowulf and We Own The Night. The batch style worked well.

Unfortunately my two other movies, with AAC sound, still don't work. The progress bar moves for MKV Extract, but as soon as the progress changes to "Extract AAC", I get the error message. Ratatouille from NHaNC3, and Shooter from Nemo.

what error message do you get?

[Quatre]

V2.0.1 beta 22/Feb/2008
Added boost AAC/DTS volume option.
Fixed overflow crash.
Fixed file splitting cut off after 2gb.

awesome:thanks:

[Quatre]

no. maybe in some future version.
mkv2vob does not use ffdshow it uses mencoder for mpeg2.

edit: mencoder has hardcode subtitles option, ill check this out sunday/monday when i have some free time.

great news. so would this mean for like foreign language x264's that have english subs it would be able to grab them from the x264 mkv and hardcode them onto the mkv2vob output file so they are viewable on ps3?

if so, then I think a lot of ppl myself including are going to start hitting that donate button if they haven't already.

otherwise any foreign films are unwatchable on ps3 with no way to do subs though there are wmv rels with hardcoded subs for 360 sometimes but they are few and far between.

[3r1c]

i will add the hardcoded subtitles option sunday/monday but it will only be for transcoded video.

[Quatre]

i will add the hardcoded subtitles option sunday/monday but it will only be for transcoded video.

ah hm, so there will be an 'add hardcoded subtitles' option but it will only be available when also selecting 'always transcode'? or adding the subs will automatically always trasncode and you just have to know that? I understand that to hardcode the subs the video file needs to be re encoded but there is no way to re encode it as an avc with the subs? mpeg-2 will be the only choice when re encoding with subs?

would be a shame for a L4.1 1080p x264 like Protege (Moon to) that needs the english subs but hey its kind of like previous version of mkv2vob where the tradeoff was if you wan ff/rw you had to force the transcode to mpeg-2 and in this case foreign films are unwatchable to ppl that dont know that language so its pretty much worth the extra time to transcode and the larger file size.

looking forward testing the new coveted subtitle option. unbelievable steady progress on this program thanks to 3rlc and even all the enthusiastic users and their testiing and bug reporting from novice newbs to video experts alike. i figure i'm somewhere in between but its all relative, to some like jamos i'm a total video newb. i guess the main thing we hve to remember is that while doom9 is geared towards video techies, some progs lke this one are obvioulsy to make it a bit easier for the avg user that wants to use one prog that encompasses several the way mkv2vob does, rather then having to use them all separately and create more margin for error.
:helpful:
I guess the novice users have to be considerate of the experts and the experts just have to be patient with the newbs for the sake of harmony.

[Glorioso]

i will add the hardcoded subtitles option sunday/monday but it will only be for transcoded video.
Count me on for testing.

[Glorioso]

there is no way to get 5.1 audio and h264 to work on xbox 360, its one or the other.

maybe when microsoft comes out with a blu-ray drive m2ts will be playable
The AVI container?

[Franke73]

After remuxing 1 mkv to vob, i get "Insufficient disk space" on every mkv i try to remux... Even if i restart mkv2vob it still says "Insufficient disk space".. I have about 30GB on C:, but ive tested to set another disk as TEMP(wiyh 400GB free), still the same.

If you get the subtitles to work this sunday/monday Eric, u got some paypal respect coming.

Thanks again for this great app.

[chubsta]

You know, I hate to state the obvious, but there is some seriously good work going on here, and i am sure there are soooo many people out there who really appreciate it. Cheers for all the effort that 3r1c is putting into this, to have such a simple set-up for those such as myself who dont have the skills to work it all out for themselves is fantastic.

My £425 PS3 was sitting there doing nothing and now it is a HD Media Centre, and all at no extra cost - cheers m8, keep up the good work, and thanks a bunch!!

[idbirch2]

Well my NOD defs are from today (23/02/08) and detected this:

C:\Program Files\Video\PS3\mkv2vob\loader.exe
probably unknown NewHeur_PE virus
quarantined

Will the program still work OK just running the main exe or is "loader.exe" required?

[WicKeDcHilD]

Love the new transcoder, with the old one i had a 1080p mkv of 8,333,350KB and when i used mkv2vob it went all the way up to 13,420,124KB, which sucked Lol. Now it took that same mkv to a nice lil 8,266,617KB and has louder volume!! Ty 3r1c! It just needs some minimize to tray, close to tray options now.

[jamos]

3r1c there is a new version of TSmuxer out 1.3.1 http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1103985#post1103985

it seems to now properly set the AVC lvl to 4.1 and does other nice things, and I have tested a few 5.1 720p mkv (havent tried a 1080p) on the PS3 and they play flawlessly.

meta file info
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --vbr
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "G:\video.mkv", level=4.1, insertSEI, contSPS, track=1
A_AC3, "G:\video.mkv", track=2


I will report back on status of using 1080p mkv sources with this new version.

This means you can stop using h264info and truly get rid of any gui interfaces and speed up remux.

p.s. glad to see you are now using boost in besweet, it does help.

edit: 1080p 5.1 sources do not work - black video with sound.

[Thunder2001]

Yes! I need only TSmuxer 1.3.1 to make an working vob file for the PS3. Changing the level from 5.1 to 4.1 an make an m2ts file. After what rename the m2ts file to vob. Thats it! Very fast and simple. :)