New release of Media Player 6.4

[gabest]

Originally posted by chros
suggestion: It will be good, if there will be 3 buttons under the Fila Association tab: 1 for "All video format", 2 for "All sound format", 3 for "All format" (So when I "install" a new MPC version I hadn't to check all the needed format ...)This has to be reworked a bit. When I took wmp's example it looked ok, but probably that page is going to change in the future somehow.Any chance in the future, that the resize of the Quuicktime files will be solve ???There is another way by using the qt sdk. But I'm not sure how much that allows and what would be the requirements (its documentation is comparable to mine :)), and honestly I would rather shoot myself in the head than using it.

[sillKotscha]

Hi Gabest,

well, this time I have a little feature request for your MPC. Would it be difficult for you to implement something like a 'Player Thread Priority' like in ZoomPlayer. Let's say for example 'above normal (for 2k/XP user's)'...

that would be nice and I guess especially that option would load MPC a bit faster as well - as everyone is keen on ;)

What do you think?

thanks in advance

cheers Sill

[phrentec]

I was using a computer while logged in as guest and noticed that I couldn't install the divx codec or ffdshow which I needed in order to play a file and it did not let me enter anything to the registry either. So I was wondering if it is possible, since I haven't seen any media player able to do this, to use a decoder like ffdshow.ax directly from MPC to play the video file. Like as in have ffdshow.ax (or maybe the divxdec.ax) in the same folder as MPC and it would use that as the decoder to play the file. In this way no installing of the codec would be necessary to play the file. I just want to know if this is possible or if there is already a media player out there that can do this.

-best regards

[masken]

@sillKotscha

Press Ctrl+Alt+Del while running mpc. Right-click mpc under the "Applications" tab and choose "Go To Process". Right-click the process and choose "Set Priority" > [the level you want]. Beware of putting things in real-time though.

You can also start mpc in another priority by making a simple batch, like:
start /high "C:\Program Files\mplayerc.exe".. save it on your desktop and Bob's your uncle.

Open up a command-prompt and type "start /?" to see the options.

[Lobuz]

Hi. I found this player lately and it's really cool especially playing in VMR 7,9 feature which gives better quality. With my GeForce2 Pro rescaling with overlay looks owfull, mostly dark scenes. Anyway the best quality is without rescaling (especially 1CD movies).

- One feature I miss in almost all players that is easy switching to other resolution from player. I like watch movies encoded in 640x352 in original resolution thats 640x480, becaus it's less distorted by scaling. It's well done in VPlayer as an another button. And there could be a few presets in different resolutions and refreshrate.

- Another thing is scaling by 100%. If movie is encoded in 708x... and I'd like to watch it in res 640x480 without rescaling. So if i want 100% it would be cropped at the ends. Could it be done in pan&scan to set to 100%?

- Preload next file in playlist, so it should be played without delay (for example VOB's copyied from DVD)

Thanks
Lobuz

ps. Are there any configuration options to VMR7 or 9? I know that's directx3d but which options?

[gabest]

Originally posted by Lobuz
- One feature I miss in almost all players that is easy switching to other resolution from player. ...I'll see what I can do about this.- Another thing is scaling by 100%. If movie is encoded in 708x... and I'd like to watch it in res 640x480 without rescaling. So if i want 100% it would be cropped at the ends. Could it be done in pan&scan to set to 100%?menu/view/video frame/do not stretch, I think this what you want.- Preload next file in playlist, so it should be played without delay (for example VOB's copyied from DVD)...Sorry, this looks impossible. There are many "resources" in the player and also among the filters from which only one can exist at the same time.ps. Are there any configuration options to VMR7 or 9? I know that's directx3d but which options? I don't think so.

[gabest]

Originally posted by phrentec
... to use a decoder like ffdshow.ax directly from MPC to play the video file. Like as in have ffdshow.ax (or maybe the divxdec.ax)Would be possible, but I think I couldn't always let it load (automatic graph building would load another if there is any already registered decoder able to join the graph), but only when there are not rendered pins in the graph, just before showing that "not all pins .. blah blah blah" popup dialog.

[gabest]

Originally posted by masken
You can also start mpc in another priority by making a simple batch, like:
start /high "C:\Program Files\mplayerc.exe".. save it on your desktop and Bob's your uncle.Does this really help a bit? I mean when there isn't any heavy running in the background the cpu is free for almost 100% of its time, putting it to higher priority wouldn't give it 110% or more.

[chros]

Originally posted by Lobuz
Hi. I found this player lately and it's really cool especially playing in VMR 7,9 feature which gives better quality. With my GeForce2 Pro rescaling with overlay looks owfull, mostly dark scenes. Anyway the best quality is without rescaling (especially 1CD movies).


What is VMR7,9 exactly??? And when should I use it ???

[sillKotscha]

Originally posted by masken


You can also start mpc in another priority by making a simple batch, like:
start /high "C:\Program Files\mplayerc.exe".. save it on your desktop and Bob's your uncle.


hi masken,

that's true - thanks.

nevertheless the "problem" still exists - if I double_click on that batch file only the player will start at a higher priority level but I still have to manually load a file. OK, I could associate for example my *avi's with this batch file and it would look like this...


start /high mplayerc.exe %1


now *avi's are loaded into mpc at a higher priorty level.... but you see the problem - every batch file is associated with (only) *.avi's and that is no solution.

cheers Sill

[Lobuz]

@Gabest

Thanks it would be great if "switching to other resolution" would be implemented.

It works "menu/view/video frame/do not stretch" very good, but what if I want 200% in higher resolution?
Could it be done by Alt+1 - 50%, Alt+2 - 100%, Alt+3 - 200%, Alt+4 - "fit to window". It could change pan&scan in fullscreen(don't switch back to window).

About "Preload next file in playlist". Can't it be done with use of VMR9 when can be mixed many video streams? Before the end of first file open in mixing mode another and pause, then switch to it.

About setting I've found something in MSDN:

IVMRMixerControl::SetMixingPrefs

typedef enum {
MixerPref_NoDecimation = 0x00000001,
MixerPref_DecimateOutput = 0x00000002,
MixerPref_DecimateMask = 0x0000000F,
MixerPref_BiLinearFiltering = 0x00000010,
MixerPref_PointFiltering = 0x00000020,
MixerPref_FilteringMask = 0x000000F0,
MixerPref_RenderTargetRGB = 0x00000100,
MixerPref_RenderTargetYUV420 = 0x00000200,
MixerPref_RenderTargetYUV422 = 0x00000400,
MixerPref_RenderTargetYUV444 = 0x00000800,
MixerPref_RenderTargetReserved = 0x0000F000,
MixerPref_RenderTargetMask = 0x0000FF00
} VMRMixerPrefs;

but its not very usefull options, where is bicubicfiltering? ;)

Another thing with VMR9.
- Artefacts that were in overlay "horizontal lines in grey areas" disappeared
- wery black flickering macroblocks at dark areas ( with xvid with bframes) which are now visible like in virtualdub, with overlay are gone

It's just some thoughts

Thanks
Lobuz

[gabest]

Originally posted by Lobuz
It works "menu/view/video frame/do not stretch" very good, but what if I want 200% in higher resolution?
Could it be done by Alt+1 - 50%, Alt+2 - 100%, Alt+3 - 200%, Alt+4 - "fit to window". It could change pan&scan in fullscreen(don't switch back to window).I think the easiest would be to add a few more items on the "video frame" menu for 50% and 200%About "Preload next file in playlist". Can't it be done with use of VMR9 when can be mixed many video streams? Before the end of first file open in mixing mode another and pause, then switch to it.Yea, but how to remove the not needed filters after the switch, and how to add more for the next files. I can't do that while the graph is running. Besides I couldn't use the vmr to mix more video streams since its mixer is not loaded when I'm in charge doing the rendering.About setting I've found something in MSDN: ...
but its not very usefull options, where is bicubicfiltering? ;)Do you know any card which can do bicubic filtering? They even fail to do point sampling and just use bilinear all the time :)

[masken]

Originally posted by gabest
Does this really help a bit? I mean when there isn't any heavy running in the background the cpu is free for almost 100% of its time, putting it to higher priority wouldn't give it 110% or more. True. I personally don't understand why some wants to mess with priorities hehe... As I see it, that only leaves less CPU time for the rest of the OS, which could have the exact opposite effect when playing the movies. But perhaps it could help in some cases, I really don't know. I also don't know if child processes, like the DS filters needed to render the movie, also will run at the higher priority...?

[gabest]

I also don't know if child processes, like the DS filters needed to render the movie, also will run at the higher priority...?Process means the whole application and the execution paths are the threads. The priority can be adjusted on both levels, but from taskman or with "start /high" only the process priority, which means all threads.

[iwod]

Hi, i am still using a older version of MPC... ( not the recently release ones..... ) proberly only a month old ....

I try to play DVD and relaize something strange. Last time i report to you about i play VCD and problem and so on....

This time i play DVDs with it. What does MPC uses to play DVDs??

Because when ever i double clicked on the bar to maximize the screen, it will slowerly turn into a white colour screen and then auto restart........

Do you know is it a hardware problem or a software problem??

[Sven72]

gabest: nope, mpc still not running. i'll try every update, maybe one day one update will work for me.

[Sven72]

Erm .. i just tried 6427.2 and it works!
Thanks, for whatever you've changed/done!

Sven

[Jaffy]

Hiyas

Ati graphic cards seems to have some hardware support for ffdshow/divx/xvid. Mpc with directx8 using system default with ati rage on my pc cpu load is usually 60% for 640x480 anime. When changed to the original ati aiw radeon with Catalyst 3.1 drivers the cpu load is around 40%.

After installing directx9 using vmr9, when holding left mouse button on mpc grey area cpu goes to 100% :mad: .

With directx9 my cpu load is now around 30% :) no idea why. Also with vmr9 i've never need post processing in the decoders as its seems to be done in hardware already :D . i.e. movies with lots of blocks or noise played using overlay mode are fine in vmr9 mode :cool: .

Any chance of improving the buffering of files, when playing from cd or over wireless lan, mpc tend to freeze when the cd has problems reading or the lan lose signal for sec. Wmp6.4 usually plays fine, if not can be killed, while with mpc a reboot in necessary :rolleyes: , i.e. mpc freezes win2k :angry: .


Jaffy


Note: AMD 1600XP, cpu loads above are without any post processing. Plus file used is one with highest cpu load to show larger difference.

[quantum]

Using View->options->playback->VMR7 or VMR9, if I drag the window to my secondary monitor, performance gets very bad. Even with the video paused CPU usage is over 50%. It works okay on the second monitor with system default or overlay. I'd prefer to use VMR because I can have 2 windows open simultaneously. I have XP with DX9 and dual monitors.

[quantum]

Update: I think this was codec related. I was using Intervideo WinDVD codecs. After switching to PowerDVD I can move a VMR9 window to the secondary monitor without problems. I can also have two DVDs open simultaneously on both monitors :)

[quantum]

If I have two instances of mplayerc open with mpeg2 videos, the right-arrow isn't responding correctly when held down. It either doesn't advance the frames or it's unpredictable. With a single instance it seems to work fine, but I wonder why when holding down right-arrow the play and pause icons flicker on and off.

Tapping the right-arrow works as expected. Of course this becomes very tedious.

I'm using powerdvd codecs.

[gabest]

Do you have two different video cards for each monitor?

(Btw, I have just noticed that either by upgrading to ti4200 from g4mx or using the 4x.xx detonators enabled me to use overlay on the second monitor too, but still not on both at the same time)

If I have two instances of mplayerc open with mpeg2 videos, the right-arrow isn't responding correctly when held down. It either doesn't advance the frames or it's unpredictable.Is this only happening with 2+ opened mpeg2 files and with the cyberlink filter? Have you tried other decoders?With a single instance it seems to work fine, but I wonder why when holding down right-arrow the play and pause icons flicker on and off.This shouldn't be related to the prob. That button (and most elements of the UI) has an updater callback function and during frame-stepping it may notice that the filter graphs has changed its state to running from paused.

[quantum]

Is there an easy way to switch codecs? I don't want to reinstall intervideo codecs to test this and mess up my cyberlink codecs.

Maybe someone else with different codecs can confirm this.

I was able to open an overlay on the second monitor. I could open a second instance but I'm not sure what type it was (VMR?). It was not overlay according to play->filters.

I didn't like the overlay because I was trying to compare two different videos that were similar but had differences in the way I encoded them. The overlay window versus the second window (vmr?) have different brightness and colors even with the same exact video. Two VMR windows are very close and work better for comparisons.

I have a single g4mx card with dual analog outputs.

[gabest]

Originally posted by quantum
Is there an easy way to switch codecs? I don't want to reinstall intervideo codecs to test this and mess up my cyberlink codecs.regsvr32 -u clvid.ax & regsvr32 ivivideo.axI was able to open an overlay on the second monitor. I could open a second instance but I'm not sure what type it was (VMR?). It was not overlay according to play->filters.The overlay mixer or the default renderer can use overlay, but to make sure you could press printscreen and see if you can paste it in paint with the video picture. Or with my card it switched off the pic and only showed the pink background when the window was on both monitors.

[quantum]

I can't get play-goto->time to work. When I open the dialog, I see a time, for instance 01:34:02.300

I just click go with the same value in there and I get "error parsing entered time"

Maybe it would be easier to break the time up into separate boxes for HH MM SS

[Twilight]

@gabest:

Thank you for making this excellent player. I have a question about playing Real files. When i am logged in as a normal user in Windows XP (Pro) i cannot play Real files. MPC informs me that i need to install Realone/Realplayer. But RealOne is installed and when logged in as an adminstrator it works fine.

[gabest]

Hm, looks like I forgot to open a registry key in read-only mode. The same prob also disabled the file icon at the properties dialog.

[gabest]

6430 is out. Bugfixes are imaginable, but don't expect any big update in the next few months.

[wmansir]

First, thank you for your work. MPC has been my default player since it's initial release.

Just trying out the new release and I'm having a problem with playlists. After the first video is done the the player stops and an error appears in the status bar "Failed to create the filter graph object". After that it won't play anything until I close and reopen the app. I tried it with mp3, mpg, and avi files with the same results. I didn't use the playlist ability of earlier releases, so I can't be positive this is a new bug.

I'm using XP w/SP1 + DX9.

[gabest]

I've already got one email with this bug. Uncheck the worker-tread opener in the options until I can find out why it's not working for everyone.

[heldchen]

woooha, my favorite divx/xvid/vcd movie player got even better! congratulations, nice work.

i still got a weird problem tho using it with mpeg-2 (svcd & dvd). most probably it has nothing to do with MPC, but maybe you or someone else knows a solution.

when i play a svcd or a dvd movie, the video only plays in gree-white. no other colors. the filters that are in use while playback are:

- default directsound device
- video renderer
- audio switcher
- intervideo video decoder (from windvd platinum)
- dedynamic
- intervideo audio decoder
- dvd navigator

the computer got an ati radeon mibility gfx card.
any hint? i tried to reinstall windvd, but that didn't help...

thanks & keep up the good work!

[gabest]

Which windvd version is it? I can only get a blank picture with 4.5's decoder, even using the windvd player itself. Try switching between the renderers or get another mpeg2 filter.

[heldchen]

its windvd platinum v4.5.11.26 (ivivideo.ax 4.5.11.26). also had same problem with older windvd versions. audio works fine and playback as well. i only miss the colors...

i also installed powerdvd and enabled that filter in the filter selection in MPC. but once i load up a dvd, intervideo's filter is on again :/

[gabest]

regsvr32 /u ivivideo.ax
regsvr32 clvid.ax

[heldchen]

ok, i just uninstalled windvd again and removed all leftovers in registry. now the powerdvd filter is loaded in MPC, picture looks fine. but this time there are glitches in the audio :)

update: the powerdvd filters make mpc crash now and then, especially while changing dvd capters and resizing windows...

[gabest]

Could you email me this clvid.ax?

[heldchen]

i got a working configuration now:
using all intervideofilters except ivivideo.ax. now mpc takes clvid.ax for video, which works fine now. seems as if the powerdvd sound filter produced the crashes.

i'll mail you all involved filters.

[heldchen]

just noticed another small bug:

audio and subtitle languages arent extracted correctly while dvd playback: the audio language menu shows 8 "english" entries although the disc features "english", "french" and "spanish" audio. in the subtitle language menu i got one entry "english" and about 30 (!) entries "german". the disc only has "english", "french" and "spanish" subtitles.

[Nyq]

I have trouble using MPC with my soundcard installed (SB Vibra128)
I tried to play avi or mpg files, it play only audio, no video.
after I change video output seting to Overlay Mixer, MPC can
play divx3 and mpeg movies, but show error message when play divx5.

and I find that if I uninstall or disable sound card, then MPC can play movie files normally ( of course with no sound)
or if I play a file with no audio data, MPC runs well too.

I don't know why.
I test old versions, 6.4.0.1~6.4.0.5 are OK
newer versions after 6.4.1.1 all have same problem
( I am using win2k)

can someone help me ? thx

[gabest]

heldchen: First I tried the intervideo decoders, but after seeing the blank picture again I noticed that my filters are exactly the same as yours :). Then I wanted to try the cyberlink filters too, but something messed up the dvd playback on my system and I only get a macrovision error now. I think I need to reboot once to fix this, which I'm going to do after something else (not resumable) finishes downloading :P

Nyq: Try to turn off/on the audio switcher or change audio renderers. Also a screenshot of graphedit would help me a lot, both the connected state from mpc and graphedit's own rendered graph.

[Nyq]

Originally posted by gabest
Nyq: Try to turn off/on the audio switcher or change audio renderers. Also a screenshot of graphedit would help me a lot, both the connected state from mpc and graphedit's own rendered graph.

I just turn on audio switcher, then everything's doing fine.. :D
thanks! :)

[gabest]

Originally posted by Nyq
I just turn on audio switcher, then everything's doing fine.. :D
thanks! :) Strange, I would have thought the opposite.

[Nyq]

according to the graphedit
it seems that Morgan Stream Switcher "eat" the video data :D

http://www.csie.nctu.edu.tw/~yzliou/ge01.jpg

[gabest]

lol, funny

[mad_koala]

It's seems there's a bug in 6.4.3.0. When adding new custom setting in
View->Pan&Scan->Edit..., saving new setting, closing mpc, starting mpc again - new setting gone :(

[masken]

I'm playing around with ASX playlists a little here, and I noticed that the View > Playlist acts a little funny sometimes when selecting clips.

I tried this:
<ASX Version = "3.0">
<ABSTRACT>Testing a playlist for Gabest's MPC</ABSTRACT>
<AUTHOR>Masken</AUTHOR>
<TITLE>The Matrix</TITLE>
<MOREINFO HREF="http://akas.imdb.com/Title?0133093" />
<ENTRY>
<TITLE>CD 1</TITLE>
<REF HREF="Matrix_CD1.avi" />
</ENTRY>
<ENTRY>
<TITLE>CD 2</TITLE>
<REF HREF="Matrix_CD2.avi" />
</ENTRY>
</ASX>Sometimes when selecting an avi, the "blue marking" gets stuck, and sometimes when doubleclicking on one of the files, MPC crashes and reports a runtime error.

As a sidenote, there seems to be limited support for the TITLE and MOREINFO HREF tags? ;)

[heldchen]

Originally posted by gabest
heldchen: First I tried the intervideo decoders, but after seeing the blank picture again I noticed that my filters are exactly the same as yours :). Then I wanted to try the cyberlink filters too, but something messed up the dvd playback on my system and I only get a macrovision error now. I think I need to reboot once to fix this, which I'm going to do after something else (not resumable) finishes downloading :P


weird. maybe you're missing the right registry settings? (like serial number and stuff?)

is there a way to set which filter NOT to use through the filter setting dialogue of mpc? even if i choose to load Cyberlink video filter throught the filter settings, if the Intervideo video filter is present on the system, it will always taken.

[jonas]

Hi gabest,

I'm using mpc to capture with my pinnacle tv card and for everything else, since it's the best player I know of.
I've got a few questions related to recording:

Is there a way to save filter settings? At the moment I always have to do some setting in the Pinncacle Crossbar filter everytime I start the device in mpc.

Could you make an option to attach timestamt to the file when recording? It can be quite a hassle if you have to rename the recoded files before you can record again.

And finally: I noticed that the output ausio seperatly option is reset on everey restart of mpc.

jonas

[gabest]

mad_koala:
- Thx, fixed.

masken:
- If you open both files at once (without using a playlist file) does it have the same problems?

heldchen:
- These powerdvd filters are the worst I have ever seen. First, they have that annoying debugging protection, then the ac3 decoder doesn't want to autoload at all, and after opening the dvd once with only these two filters registered as mpeg2/ac3 decoders I can't run it again because that of macrovision error. I have to reboot after every try just to get back the ability to play a dvd.
- The filter list can't be used to add decoders, it is only for adding filters after the decoder.

jonas:
- Most settings on the toolbar are saved into the registry. The very first combo box on the top is for the video crossbar, that should be saved too, but if you have an audio crossbar or a second video crossbar then they are ignored. I don't have such a capture card and didn't want to include something I can't test.

[Gazza]

Hi Gabest, unfortunately it appears from my end of things that the link to download mpc 6.4.3.1 is either broken or incomplete.

Cheers

Gazza