New release of Media Player 6.4

[Dropbear]

latest drama.. it seems the problem is not with media player at all.. I installed a Fortissimo II card and got DTS and AC3 passthrough no problems at all.... It seems the AOPEN AW-850 Deluxe is broken.

[gabest]

Siku: Is this with the normal version or a translation maybe?

Liisachan: It should run fine with dx7, but I've never tested it.

calinb: I also managed to get a few nero codecs installed. Generally I find it quite annoying when a program registers its privately used codecs with such a high merit that it autoloads in other programs too. Even more annoying is when I try to unregister those filters and the program stops working.

Dropbear: I've got an idea, try mpc with the waveout renderer if that worked with ac3filter.

Coroner: Only with vob files? If so, my guess is that there are time discontinuities in the stream and the subtitler gets incorrect timestamp after you seek to a new place. I can imagine that the source filter ignores these resets when not interrupting playback with seeks, and it just sums up the time accumlated from the parsed frames. Through the history of mpc I tried to enable/disable the new mpeg2 demuxer as the default parser several times, you may need to change back to the other now. If there is the demuxer loaded add mpeg2 splitter on the filter override list and set it to prefer, or vica versa.

[Siku]

@gabest

The normal one.

[calinb]

Originally posted by gabest
Generally I find it quite annoying when a program registers its privately used codecs with such a high merit that it autoloads in other programs too. Even more annoying is when I try to unregister those filters and the program stops working.Here-here! I was an early adopter of Nero 6 Ultra and paid for one of the first retail boxes. I've been plagued by this behavior through all the updates. I keep thinking Ahead will get the message and back-off/fix this. I install Nero, get all my filter management worked out (much easier than it used to be, thanks to MPC and Radlight filter manager), get my favorite icons switched back, etc. then do it all over again with the next Nero update, urrgghhh :(

[Coroner]

Gabest thanks!
Putting the mpeg2 splitter on prefer worked. I can seek all I want now and they stay synched.

Cheers

[Hesse]

Is there a way to make MPC start in fullscreen mode by default w/o having to use the command line switches? I tried to use "Save Window Size", but it doesn't work for full screen.

[cweb]

Originally posted by Liisachan
mikeX: fyi, most probably mpc doesnt run on Win98 without DirectX 9

It works on my Win98 machine with DirectX 8.1a (now 8.1b).

Is DirectX 9 now stable on Win98? And is there any advantages unless you have a DirectX 9 card?

[Seppe]

The playback of bik files is bugged with mpc

I have put the binkw32.dll (the one of the game Tony Hawk 4).
But when I tried to play one of the movie files, the playback was split in to 4 halves like this http://users.pandora.be/seppesbox/bik/bik_error.jpg

The info of one of the corrupt files is like this :
http://users.pandora.be/seppesbox/bik/bad_bik.jpg

The info of one of the playable files is like this :
http://users.pandora.be/seppesbox/bik/good_bik.jpg

The bik files both play well with the bink and smacker tools

A sample of a corrupt movie can also be provided to fix the error.

[gabest]

A sample would be nice definitely.

[Seppe]

a sample can be found at
http://users.pandora.be/seppesbox/bik/data015.bik 12 MB

This is copyrighted material, please do not download it if you do not own it. It is only for a bugfix.

It will be removed once that Gabest has confirmed that he has it

[Liisachan]

cweb: sorry for my inaccurate comments, i've just tested mpc+win98 and now I can confirm even DirectX7.0a does work, like Gabest said.
I'm not a win98 user myself, but i just thought MPC doesnt run on "default" win98 (DirectX6.4)...
Like you said, Dx9 might be useless if you cant use VMR-9 mode.
My PC is not very new either, but luckily I can use VMR-9 mode on my win2k, so I can enjoy the most beautiful subtitles rendered internally by MPC :)

[calinb]

Gabest,

Finally got around to trying the new internal MPC AC3 filter on a div5/ triple 5.1 AC3/ mkv file. Bad noise/distortion on all audio streams :( AC3 Filter v0.70b plays it okay but Intervideo also has problems with this file. Would a sample clip help?

[LigH]

I got reports in the german Gleitz / doom9 forum that the internal AC3 decoder of version 6.4.7.4 is always enabled upon DVD playback starting from an IFO file, even if the DVD does not include any AC3 audio streams but only MP2 (as usual for selfmade DVDs, e.g. by 'heroes' who convert (M/S)VCDs up to DVDs); cannot check this, but could be worth looking for in the source.

[Coyote]

@LigH : I've reported a similar problem a few weeks ago. it seems that the m$ dvd navigator always report audio streams from dvd as ac3.

[gabest]

Seppe: This one has a strange header, width/height: 640x480, y plane width/height: 320x240, uv width/height: 160x120. What you can see in the top left corner is the whole picture, other funny looking things are only memory garbage there. I think the maker of this clip imagined it to be playing back in the middle of the screen with black borders around. I can remember something similar from the past, a few games had two versions of its cutscenes, one in fullscreen and the other in half resolution.

calinb: Yes, testing a sample is the only way to find out what causing the troubles... :P

LigH: As Coyote says the dvd navigator cannot tell what kind of audio (or even video) it will read, because it may change depending on what stream the user chooses or which menu or title he's running currently. (loading video_ts.ifo is the same as loading the dvd)

[calinb]

Here's a sample, Gabest:
http://home.comcast.net/~calinb/AC3samp.avi
I never know how large of a clip is best. This one's about 1.7MB.

It's 5.1+2.0+5.1 AC3 (all at different sample rates) + DIV5. It was in a mkv container but I've trimmed it to an avi. Same problem in both containers.

Both I-video and MPC internal AC3 filters have problems playing it. Haven't tried Nero, ffdshow audio, etc. Thanks!

[cweb]

Originally posted by Liisachan
cweb: sorry for my inaccurate comments, i've just tested mpc+win98 and now I can confirm even DirectX7.0a does work, like Gabest said.
I'm not a win98 user myself, but i just thought MPC doesnt run on "default" win98 (DirectX6.4)...
Like you said, Dx9 might be useless if you cant use VMR-9 mode.
My PC is not very new either, but luckily I can use VMR-9 mode on my win2k, so I can enjoy the most beautiful subtitles rendered internally by MPC :)

I've installed DirectX9.0b on my win98 pc. It works - I haven't tried VMR-9 mode but I think it should work.

I've got a problem on my PC very recently - basically MPC or Zoom Player crash occasionally when loading a video (mpeg1/2/mpeg4-XviD).
(I didn't have this problem before some days ago)

I checked out faultlog.txt (because the PC freezes with an illegal operation from the media player) - everything freezes (no CTRL ALT DELETE) and I have to press the reset button.

Here's the error. I removed lots of stuff (including ffvfw, XviD) to test, updated to Dx9, tested various nvidia drivers (I'm using the latest version right now).


Date 01/13/2004 Time 20:04
MPLAYERC caused an invalid page fault in
module <unknown> at 0000:b00cb960.
Registers:
EAX=e6ea1000 CS=015f EIP=b00cb960 EFLGS=00010016
EBX=00000006 SS=0167 ESP=0301e99c EBP=000089b8
ECX=00001004 DS=0167 ESI=e6ea1000 FS=0157
EDX=0301e994 ES=0167 EDI=00000167 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:

Stack dump:
00007c57 0000032f 00000003 e6ea1000 00002077 00007bae 8096f160 000089d0 00007f1f 00001004 e6ea1000 00000003 8096f160 000089f8 000030b6 8096f160

The above dump is always the same every time MPC crashes.

I have a dump of DVD2AVI (neuron2's version) which crashed on me once too with the same error:
Date 01/12/2004 Time 15:00
DVD2AVIDG caused an invalid page fault in
module <unknown> at 0000:b00cb960.
Registers:
EAX=e6e8a000 CS=015f EIP=b00cb960 EFLGS=00010016
EBX=00000006 SS=0167 ESP=00d9faf4 EBP=00008b10
ECX=000006c8 DS=0167 ESI=e6e8a000 FS=0157
EDX=00d9faec ES=0167 EDI=00000167 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:

Stack dump:
00007c57 0000032f 00000003 e6e8a000 00002077 00007bae 8096f160 00008b28 00007f1f 000006c8 e6e8a000 00000003 8096f160 00008b50 000030b6 8096f160

Do you have any ideas on what might be going wrong? Or where might the problem lie?

[Rash]

Gabest, I really don't know if that's a bug in MPC or if it is a Windows thing. I can't associate .mpg, .avi and .wmv extensions with MPC. They keep opening Windows Media Player when I double click. The other file extensions work perfectly. Thanks pal. ;)

[opsis81]

It has nothing to do with MPC.Windows Media Player re-associates these filetypes.Open Windows Media Player,go to filetypes and uncheck .mpg, .avi and .wmv extensions.

[Seppe]

The file does actually play with the bink and smacker tools at the "correct" resolution of 640/480.
During the game the files are also played in full screen.

I think that it is a encoding option of bink
-> scaling compression : when u use this option, the playback in mpc is bugged.

[gabest]

Maybe it is a signal for the application using the bink decoder to stretch it to 640x480, the decoder itself won't do this. But I don't need to handle such cases fortunately, what I did to fix this problem was very easy, as the final resolution now I take the minimum of w/h and yw/yh, this seems to work for all samples I have.

[Rash]

Originally posted by opsis81
It has nothing to do with MPC.Windows Media Player re-associates these filetypes.Open Windows Media Player,go to filetypes and uncheck .mpg, .avi and .wmv extensions.
Indeed! Thanks a lot. ;)

[dzy]

Hi gabest

Can you make an auto load sub function for dvd as well?

Something like load sub files from

<user defined directory>/<disc id>/title<#>.srt

videolan uses <disc label>#<some date code> for the disc id

it's desirable because some (or most) r2 anime dvds don't have subtitles (not even japanese sub) :<

thanks

[Yusaku]

Feature wishlist of "things that doesn't seem hard to implement, but everyone keeps bugging me about them" ;) :

* Automatic stream selection based on DVD/OGM selection for internal OGM and (especially) MKV splitters (I know MKV has default track... but sometimes I don't agree with the creator of the file which one would I like to have as default)
(ideally, it should be preference list for all three items - e.g. for me; audio: Japanese-Czech-English-Russian-others - but even the one most preferred language now is good enough)

* Anamorphic correction of MKV movies - currently works only for ffdshow or RM; but many people use e.g. DivX decoder. There's already pan&scan support implemented in MPC; please please link it with this matroska feature - people expect it from player and not decoder...

* Support for track names in matroska splitter subtitles (e.g. subs, forced subs, audio commentary and on-screen texts will result in four "English" entries for subtitles... which is confusing)

[celtic_druid]

XviD also supports anamorphic correction of MKV movies, has done for at least a week.

[toraneko]

I'm using MPC 6.4.7.5 with WinXP.

I have (in the same directory) an MKV file containing chapters and an MKA file not containing any.
the MKA file is automatically loaded when I open the MKV one, as its filename contains the one of the MKV file.

in this configuration, the chapters from the MKV file are not available anymore ("jump to" remain greyed).

is there something I should have done with mkvmerge/mmg, please ?

[opsis81]

@GABEST
Are there any plans to add GRF support?ZoomPlayer has support for GraphEdit files and I'm using it for watching TV channels.
But I'd like to switch to MPC...

[chros]

So: there's a NTSC MPEG file (I think it was a NTSC VCD), 29,97 FPS, 352*240 resolution .

When I play it with MPC 6.4.7.5 the resolution is 352*262 (if I remember correctly), so the AR is perfect in the screen ...

I have tried with MPC 6.4.3.1 and the resolution was 352*240, and the picture was a little "pushed" ...

I am asking this, because I want to convert into XviD-AVI (in VirtualDubMod), and it converts with 352*240 ... Should I use a resize filter to get the perfect (???) 352*262 resolution ???

Does this problem exist with the PAL VCD-s too ? (352*2??)

Thanx

[Sirber]

@gabest

do you know when the HE-AAC issue will be fixed?

Thanks!!! :D

[Uli]

@gabest

I use MPC for a long time now and i'm very pleased with it :)

But i found a glitch in RealMedia playback:
When i set a clip to repeat in an endless loop and i've set to full screen, the screen is resized after the first repeat to the clip size and is played in the upper left corner. The last version i had, that played without this bug was 6.4.4.10. Version 6.4.4.10 plays correctly if i replace actual version with it. All versions after that (including the actual version) have this little bug.

greetz, Uli

PS: I use RealAlternative (latest ver. 1.2 RC 6)

[gabest]

dzy: Could be done, but I don't think it will happen very soon.

Yusaku: First, third are not easy and I'm willing to do something about them, but the second won't happen, there is one way in dshow already (if there is another, everyone has implement both just to make sure it will work, which is madness), every normal decoder uses it except the "avi" decoders because avi never had any AR information stored in it, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't have to connect to anything else than the avi splitter.

toraneko: Thanks for noticing, fixed.

opsis81: Don't know how zoom loads them, but dx9 doesn't support them anymore, with a good reason.

chros: You should resize it if the target is avi.

Sirber: It's fixed.

Uli: Do you use the realmedia or directshow mode? Which renderer?

[oddball]

Gabest do you have an answer on why ReClock plays both audio streams at the same time yet?

[Lobuz]

@Gabest

Hi. I support Yusaku in his subtitle related requests. And I want to add another one.

- optimisation of subtitle playback effects(example karaoke). Now it works in unbuffered mode resulting much higher CPU load even in normal uneffected parts. Could effects work in buffered mode too? Or maybe some optimisation could be possible?

- full integration of vsfilter to work in all video modes

- opening as subtitle the .txt extension file which has the same name as video one (many sub files are with .txt extension)

- while performing Load subtitles(ctr-L) jumping to the directory of played video file

- opening locked files other then (eDonkey, eMule) .part extension ( may require setting in options )

- going back to Yusaku proposal could it be possible to add software resizing and cropping to MPC as another internal filter. It could be used instead of graphics card resizing and to make AR correction with mkv files.
It would perform resize with configurable parameters to fullfill playback screen resolution. That could be handy and give higher quality than graphics card.
If MPC could use ffdshow resizing\cropping would be even easier. Of course that could be CPU intensive.

There's only one thing which could truly make a big quality leap in plaback. That's framerate conversion/interpolation. It most likely should work in Trimension (http://www.trimensiontech.com) Philips's software. And I'v found on forum those links (http://www.ics.ele.tue.nl/~dehaan/publications.html) to papers with Philips's algorythms (http://iss.bu.edu/jkonrad/Publications/local/cpapers/Kard03ivcp.pdf). Maybe it could be possible to put it in opensource project?

Regards
Lobuz

[calinb]

Originally posted by gabest
<snip>.... but the second won't happen, there is one way in dshow already (if there is another, everyone has implement both just to make sure it will work, which is madness), every normal decoder uses it except the "avi" decoders because avi never had any AR information stored in it, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't have to connect to anything else than the avi splitter.Gabest, I don't really understand your arguments against this proposed MPC AR feature. I've never been able to get the ffdshow overlay mode to work with my video adapter so the ffdshow AR feature doesn't work for me. If you only supported reading and using the mkv AR flags, that would be a nice feature (de-selectable, of course--just like many MPC features.) It could be coupled to your internal matroska filter, if that makes it easier. If you never implement this feature, I'll just continue to use manual pan&scan presets because MPC is such a great player :)

[RedDwarf69]

Originally posted by calinb
Gabest, I don't really understand your arguments against this proposed MPC AR feature. I've never been able to get the ffdshow overlay mode to work with my video adapter so the ffdshow AR feature doesn't work for me. If you only supported reading and using the mkv AR flags, that would be a nice feature (de-selectable, of course--just like many MPC features.) It could be coupled to your internal matroska filter, if that makes it easier. If you never implement this feature, I'll just continue to use manual pan&scan presets because MPC is such a great player :)

He says the problem is in DivX/Xvid/ffdshow decoders (works in ffdshow with overlay because a casual error, it should works without it too), we have only to use manual pan&scan until they correct it.
Gabest seems to be in the position of "if we correct this with a hack, they will never will correct it in the correct way"

P.D.: Correct me if any error
P.D.: I readed "something" about AR in Xvid 1.0 betas, is it corrected now?

[toraneko]

why MPC can auto-load several audio-files when it can additionnally load only one ?

could you then, please, separate "open" of a main media file from "open" of additonal audio tracks ?

could it also be that opening additional audio tracks wouldn't rewind the main media file ?

thanks in advance

[cweb]

Gabest,
About the invalid page faults I had running mpc, well now I've updated the ole files (using DCOM98 patch), and now the crash occurs much less frequently - only once in a while. Memtest86 indicates memory is completely ok, by the way.

I've also now had a page fault crash without the system freezing, at least, which makes a difference.

[Sirber]

Originally posted by gabest
Sirber: It's fixed.6.4.7.5 is the lastest avalible and the build I have. When do you think you'l lrelease the fixed build?

[calinb]

RedDwarf69, Thanks for the clarification. I've read Gabest's posts on the subject again and I guess his position is, fundamentally, the AR feature should not be present in both a decoder and a player.

[rigel]

1. Would it be possible to make MPC "remember" the waveout volume that was present at MPC startup and restore it on exit when using the waveout audio renderer. It is somewhat annoying either to lower the volume every time manually( And I prefer not to have those windows sounds as loud as a movie).
2. Some way to have different settings for different file extensions?
Maybe by adding an option of loading settings ini files from commandline?

[jp80]

Hi gabest,

could you pliz check my post in this section, and which subject is titled "MPC resize in real time without keeping aspect ratio "?

[Uli]

Originally posted by gabest

...
Uli: Do you use the realmedia or directshow mode? Which renderer?

Hello again,

i use System Default Renderer (Win98SE on GF2pro with Detonator 45.23 and DirectX 9.0b) and RealMedia mode.
In both modes (DirectShow/RealMedia) happens the same.

greetz, Uli

[Brother John]

Good morning!

I just ran into problems with the new MPC 6476. The player produces a protection fault when trying to open this file:
Matroska, XviD "Selam", LC-AAC 5.1, LC-AAC 2.0
The video was made with VDubMod, sound with BeSweet+Nero 6.0.0.23 and finally muxed with mkvmerge 0.8.2.

It plays fine in MPC 6475 and BSPlayer. Also when I disable the internal matroska splitter in 6476, it works.
External splitter is matroskasplitter 1.0.2.1 (initial release, not the "-2" version now found on guliverkli); ffdshow 20030523 for video and CoreAAC 20030807 for audio.

Am I doing sth wrong or could this be a bug?

edit: 6476 works with internal splitter and non-aac mkvs.

[Smiff]

Originally posted by gabest
Rash: LFE means it will also be decoded and included in the downmixing, or sent to the LFE speaker when you select 3 front + 2 rear (nothing to downmix then). Ac3filter list every variation with LFE in its combo box doubling the selection, I choose to create a checkbox instead, there is no more difference.

Sorry to be an idiot, but i'm confused by this option also. If I don't have LFE checked (which is the default) what happens to the LFE channel (assuming one is present)? nothing - it's just ignored?. Normally, I use stereo speakers (or Dolby Pro Logic) and want 5.1 mixed to that and want the LFE included because the speakers are good quality... should I have LFE checked or unchecked? Thanks very much and for all your work :)

btw including normalisation is an incredibly brilliant move - am i right that it just prevents clipping by linearly scaling audio to a maximum of 0dB (or just below?) After all, no one replaygains their movie soundtracks :)

[Zarxrax]

Might I ask what happened to the "Always on top while playing" feature? It was in an earlier build and I loved it... but it seems to have disappeared :(

Edit: Nevermind the musings of this idiot, I have found the option :rolleyes: I was looking for it in the options menu.

[celtic_druid]

Internal subtitle filter seems to no longer be playing mkv files with internal subs. Went back and checked and the last working version would appear to be v6.4.7.0, which also works fine with its internal mkv splitter disabled, so I guess the current one is not the problem.

[Brother John]

I checked subtitles with 6476 (mkv, 1x ac3, 2x srt). No problem at all with VMR7, so I suppose text subs work. Don't know about Vobsubs though.

[rakaz]

Just noticed a post on the MPC SF.net forum:

Project Cowbell is a large independent update to MPC
that provides the user with greatly enhanced
functionality, with an emphasis on playlist interaction
(including additional context-menu items, a media
finder and auto-hide capability in full-screen mode.)
For more information and full feature descriptions,
visit http://www.geocities.com/projectcowbell
Looks very interesting...

EDIT2:
Screenshots fixed...

[celtic_druid]

Tested VMR9 with srt and ssa under win2k.

Screenshots on the above link work fine for me btw.

[gabest]

toraneko: one is more than none, and loading additional files after the playback has been started is not really possible.

rigel: 1. applications must not change the global volume level, that's why directsound and the directsound renderer exits, use that if you find mpc controlling the global level annoying.

Brother John: Can you give me a sample? I don't have any with he-aac currently. (if it's a null pointer error, try the latest coreaac filter, with a version ending to 9).

Smiff: Looking at the downmixing code of liba52 I found that it just ignores LFE in any case. If you have it checked, it's going to be output as +1 channel (and usually routed to the left front speaker by windows itself). The normalizer works as you think, except there is a 10 times muliplier limit.

celtic_druid: Do any of those clips play with subtitles from samples.matroska.org?