New release of Media Player 6.4

[iwod]

Hi,

Um........ the current MPC when switching to minimal mode has a grey border around it. Is it possible if there is a option to get it out so that MPC looks total flat on screen?? ( just a small request )

And i was thinking of filters. Why are there so many filters for WInDVD and PowerDVD. I normally just use WINDVD video decoder. What are other filter used for?? ( if there is no use i may just as well delete those files )

[calinb]

Anyone know how to use a mplayerc.ini file as read-only? I'm making autoplay XCDs with MPC. I'd like to have more configuration options than those availabile on the command line but, if I include an mplayerc.ini on the CD, MPC complains that it's unable to open file--no doubt because the .ini isn't writeable on the CD. I really don't want to copy files to the hard disk.

This thread is getting so large, (congrats, Gabest) the search engine doesn't help much.

Thanks!

P.S. I got no response to (accidently) starting this thread here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64767
The board won't let me delete it so maybe a mod can delete it for me (or any combination of move/delete).

[xx]

hi Gabest:
Please tell me how can i play roq files in mpc 6468. is there any other dlls i need? Thanks.

[m99]

Originally posted by iwod
You could get the codec install.. ( which is illegal i think )

Otherwise you could install Realplayer and delete all the files you don't want and leave it to MPC to do the playback.


Yes, I'm aware of this, have tried it earlier with Winamp. Is there a audio-only Realaudio codec-pack out there? I need it only for listening to BBC WS.

[Lobuz]

@Gabest
Is there a possibility to embede decoder files into Matroska file and then use it stright from file to play it? Could MPC do that? In case that there is no proper system codec use that embeded. Or maybe matroska splitter could put that filters into the rendering stream?

Anyway it could be useful with some less popular codecs. Or just to keep properly working version of the decoder.

Regards
Lobuz

[kwyjibo99]

Is there any command line I can use to select the audio stream to start with?

[LordDethstar]

Originally posted by Lobuz
@Gabest
Is there a possibility to embede decoder files into Matroska file and then use it stright from file to play it? Could MPC do that? In case that there is no proper system codec use that embeded. Or maybe matroska splitter could put that filters into the rendering stream?

Anyway it could be useful with some less popular codecs. Or just to keep properly working version of the decoder.

Regards
Lobuz

As soon as that becomes possible I will stop using MPC or Matroska. Embedding code into data files is the worst thing that could be done, as a virus could be embedded into the file.

[Animaniac]

Gabest,

Have you had a chance to look at extrating metadata information from the QuickTime API, namely when playing Protected AAC files (.M4P). Thanks.

[HarryM]

@Gabest: Can you add into your AviSplitter function 'Redirect FourCC' (similar to Tobias's OGM splitter), pleeeease? :rolleyes:

[gabest]

HarryM: Not as bad idea, but I could do this automagically too. For example if there is an "xvid" fourcc I could add mp4v,divx,.. by just making sure they are really compatible. Which fourcc mappings did you think of?

Animaniac: Right now I have no idea if this is possible at all with the current qt sdk. (I think I've already mentioned how "usable" its documentation was :))

Lobuz: When this question comes up, there are always objections like LordDethstar's, and it is alright I think, separating code and content has always been the goal everywhere in many area of computer science.

kwyjibo99: What would you like to use for identification? Stream number perhaps? In dshow pins can be connected in any order, there is no guarantiee the switcher's input will stay the same when a different kind of graph is build for some reason. A new version of a source/splitter can choose to change the order any time, or one stream may fail to render because of a missing codec and your numbers can get shifted easily.

m99: With only the codecs you can only view local realmedia files through directshow. For streaming the entire framework of real is needed, but if you wish you can manually delete the video decoders from progfiles/common.../realsomething/codecs after installing realone or that realalternative thing :)

xx: I've already told xx the reason, but for everybody else interested: I forgot to associate the built-in splitter's output mediatypes with the decoders... Its kinda like forgetting to run regsvr32 on an external filter.

calinb: I tried to test this by just changing the attributes of mplayerc.ini to read-only, but then mpc didn't complain and left it alone even after changing the options :) I'm going to burn a cdrw later today... How odd is that 64767 thread id, reminds me to v6467 :)

iwod: Also letting to hide the sizing edge means more options to be placed onto the user interface :P About those filters I don't know much, I think they are mostly audio effect dmos and source filters for vcd/dvd.

chros: Sorry, no news about this or the new web interface.

AgeOfPanic: It's a feature :) Such toolbars are containing modeless dialogs and they eat all user input when being in focus.

arman68: Crystal has its own source filter too for avi, but I have finally found a bad avi and fixed the "going back to the beginning in the middle of the clip" bug :D

gizmotech: Sorry, only one subtitle stream at a time.

alx: I have tried to find out why this happens a few times already, but it doesn't want to crash here... Maybe it is cd drive dependent? Could you or anyone else test it by ripping the cd into an image and mounting it with daemontools or similar? If it still does, then I'd need to have that cd image somehow, or better a remade cd with the tiny version of the same clip.

[sillKotscha]

and when do plan to add the special gabest feature...

called: leave me alone, I need to have some spare time :D

[dimzon]

Originally posted by gabest
HarryM: Not as bad idea, but I could do this automagically too. For example if there is an "xvid" fourcc I could add mp4v,divx,.. by just making sure they are really compatible. Which fourcc mappings did you think of?

I think best solution is customasible fourCC mapping. Maybe without UI right now (just INI-file)

[HarryM]

Originally posted by gabest
HarryM: Not as bad idea, but I could do this automagically too. For example if there is an "xvid" fourcc I could add mp4v,divx,.. by just making sure they are really compatible. Which fourcc mappings did you think of?


You right. I note, that the newest DivX decoders (5.1.x and higher) are very good compatible with XviD advanced streams (b-frames, q-pel used).
And... for many peoples is DivX decoder more problemless than original XviD decoder or ffdshow.

I think the automatic remapping 'XVID'-'DIVX' or 'XVID'-'DX50', without rewriting FourCC on disc.

[kwyjibo99]

Originally posted by gabest
kwyjibo99: What would you like to use for identification? Stream number perhaps? In dshow pins can be connected in any order, there is no guarantiee the switcher's input will stay the same when a different kind of graph is build for some reason. A new version of a source/splitter can choose to change the order any time, or one stream may fail to render because of a missing codec and your numbers can get shifted easily.


I was thinking on that... I supossed that there were an order, because in every media player I launched the video file, audio streams appears in the same order...

[calinb]

Originally posted by gabest
calinb: I tried to test this by just changing the attributes of mplayerc.ini to read-only, but then mpc didn't complain and left it alone even after changing the options :) I'm going to burn a cdrw later today... How odd is that 64767 thread id, reminds me to v6467 :)
Yeah, weird--I didn't notice the thread id.

I'd better give you some more info, Gabest, if you're checking this out. The error msg. is:
"MS Visual C++ Runtime Library
Runtime Error!
Program E:\mplayerc.exe
The application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way. Please contact the application's support team for more information."

I'm making XCDs with one mkv "media" file and several other files for playback: mplayerc.exe, mplayerc.ini, *.ax filters, autorun.bat, and autorun.inf.

It works on a CD IFF I don't include the mplayerc.ini. Following your lead, I tried a chmod 444 mplayerc.ini experiment too (RKtools for windows :)) and got the same result you got, the attributes didn't make any difference and it still worked okay on the hard drive with R attributes.

I started by testing with CD-RWs but now I just write a Nero CD image and mount it with Daemon tools for testing. Same problem with a DVD image (instead of XCD) too.

[gizmotech]

Gabest;

Not to pry, but is it a technical issue that would prevent this, or is it a time issue?

And on another note for vsfilter, in the mkvmerge release thread you mentioned that the reason alot of people can't see their vobsub subs during playback was because of an issue w/ vsfilter and reading time codes (or durations). Is there a chance a fix will be out in the near future?

Gizmo.

[gabest]

calinb: Could you test this nrg? It has an ini + subtitle file, next to the exe and an avi. http://gabest.org/Track%20No01_20031121.rar

gizmotech: 1. both :) 2. going to release it this weekend.

[Yattaman]

hi to all,
this is my first post here, i'd like to thank Gabest for probably the best all in one player i ever seen...i make a ico for mpc and i'd like to put in the file... i used iconworkshop, but at least i can put a 256 colors 32x32 icon...there's a way to put a new one with greater colors?
Here's the one i made, the size is larger:
http://utenti.lycos.it/yattaman79/mp2.ico

[gabest]

You should know that icons with more than 256 colors will not look nice on older windows versions. I'm not sure even win2k can display true-color icons yet, maybe it needs xp at least. (btw, this icon only needs 5 colors I think :))

[Yattaman]

but the old one icon is very awful, you can't change it only on xp version of mpc?

[Loopback]

Hi!

My five days of waiting is out and now I can express my gratitude to Gabest for the world best player! I use it from the beginning and not need any other player anymore.

About icon: I mean, icons can to contain few different color formats in the same file. So high color formats will be used if possible.

[calinb]

Originally posted by gabest calinb: Could you test this nrg? Sure, Gabest. Same error though :(

[gabest]

calinb: hm... it works here on cdrw and with daemontools too, don't know what to try next.

Yattaman: Yea, as Loopback says and if there is a 256 color icon too then it will be ok. But still it is not excangable to another without resource hacking, that means the default will stay as long as something much better comes.

[Loopback]

BTW, I've tried posted nrg, and it's works fine for me. Moreover, I made many disks with the MPC and mpalyerc.ini burned on it, and never have same problem.

Maybe I wrong, but I heard somewere that in some conditions, when programs trying to write readonly or nonexisting ini under Win9x like problems may occurs.

[calinb]

Weird! I've tried it under both XP and Win2K with the same result. I've tried CD-RW, Daemon Tools, and Nero Imagedrive.

ASPI layer problem? I've tried it with and without Adaptec 4.60. Thanks! Maybe I'll get to the bottom of this eventually.

[uneasy]

Hello, Gabest! Thanks again for the almost perfect player!
Still, I want to ask you again if you can implement one certain feature I desperately need. I dont think it is very difficult to add it, but then again I know nothing about programming. :)

Anyway, the feature I'm talking about is shell integration, like in WMP or Winamp2 (btw, Winamp3 doesnt have it). It works like this: if you select several files in explorer and press Enter (or select right click - play) Winamp or WMP starts and plays selected files as a playlist. I looked into the registry and I think this integration works because of the following keys:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Winamp.File\shell\Play\DropTarget]
"Clsid"="{46986115-84D6-459c-8F95-52DD653E532E}"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{46986115-84D6-459c-8F95-52DD653E532E}\LocalServer32]
@="\"d:\\utils\\Winamp\\Winamp.exe\""

There are similar keys for WMP:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\AVIFile\shell\open\DropTarget]
"CLSID"="{CE3FB1D1-02AE-4a5f-A6E9-D9F1B4073E6C}"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{CE3FB1D1-02AE-4a5f-A6E9-D9F1B4073E6C}]
@="WMP Play As Playlist Launcher"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{CE3FB1D1-02AE-4a5f-A6E9-D9F1B4073E6C}\InprocServer32]
@="C:\\WINDOWS\\System32\\wmpshell.dll"
"ThreadingModel"="Apartment"

Well, at least this integration breaks when I delete those keys. :)

Funny thing: if I register avi extension in Options - Formats window of MPC, this DropTarget key in the registry stays intact, and MPC only starts when I click on ONE avi file in explorer, and if I select SEVERAL avi's, and select Play or Open - WMP starts.

[Lobuz]

Crystal has its own source filter too for avi, but I have finally found a bad avi and fixed the "going back to the beginning in the middle of the clip" bug

Is it suppose to be fixed in 6.4.6.9? I still have that kind of behaviour with avi's with holes. After start it plays to the gap and go es back to the beginning. But if there is clicked on seek bar (anywhere) it skips that gap and continue playing. And it only can't pass it on first play.

Regards
Lobuz

[dzy]

Hi gabest

thanks for the ogm splitter, is it possible to integrate vorbis decoder as well?

And there might be a bug in the audio switcher. If I enable audio switcher and use directsound for output, ac3filter's spdif passthrough won't work. The audio render audio stream info are the same, could it be the audio switcher somehow corrupted the data? the external decoder did change to ac3 mode when it's playing. It plays fine when using waveout.

I used to disable audio switcher to work around this, but the ogm splitter requires it enabled else all audio streams will be played at same time.

regards,
dzy

[Alxemi]

Hi Gabest, thanks again for the OGG splitter. It was the feature i was about to ask for! :)
By the way, maybe you remember me, i told you about the posibility of translate MPC into a spanish version. Are the other translators here in doom9 forums? if they are here maybe i can ask them for advice.

Regards

[gabest]

calinb: Do you have any autoloading filter installed? Maybe vsfilter / older version of dvobsub, or some other? I know you said it didn't crash when the autoload subtitles option was unchecked, but maybe there is a conflict between the internal filter and another.

uneasy: looks interesting, msdn should have some information on this.

Lobuz: Well, it was a fix for that avi I discovered to have this problem. If you could upload or let me download one of your samples, then I could surely find a cure for them too :)

dzy: I don't know much about vorbis decoding and there are already two decoders (oggds and corevorbis). For the other question. When you say it is ok with the waveout renderer, do you also mean the audio switcher is loaded too? I wonder why it would pass the ac3 frames through for only one of the renderers... I can't really test it either since I have no equipment to plug the digital output of the soundcard into.

(btw, the new ogm splitter seeks a bit slow yet, but that's going to be improved certainly :))

[uneasy]

Gabest:

Here's what I found on DropTarget:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/shellcc/platform/shell/programmersguide/shell_basics/shell_basics_extending/fileassociations/fa_verbs.asp

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/shellcc/platform/shell/programmersguide/shell_basics/shell_basics_extending/fileassociations/fa_perceived_types.asp

"DropTarget is a REG_SZ value containing the class identifier (CLSID) of an object—usually a local rather than in-process server—that implements IDropTarget. By default, when the target is an executable file, the Shell converts the list of dropped files into a command line parameter passed to ShellExecute in its lpParameters parameter."

[dzy]

gabest:

yes, using waveout plays fine regardless audio switcher settings.
but with directsound I have to disable audio switcher to play ac3.

audio switcher on, directsound -> no sound, audio stream info 146/2/48000/192000/4/1.00
audio switcher on, waveout -> have sound, audio stream info 146/2/48000/192000/4/1.00
audio switcher off, directsound -> have sound, audio stream info 146/2/48000/192000/4/1.00
audio switcher off, waveout -> have sound, audio stream info 146/2/48000/192000/4/1.00

however I remembered in some versions before, the format was different between directsound and waveout. If I recall correctly, ds format was normal 2channel stereo. I looked the sourceforge forum and found someone mentioned use waveout will solve the ac3 problem, then after some trial and error I found disabling audio switcher fixes the problem as well.

[Gooop]

thanks for the new version gabest
I have a question about the built in ogm splitter. How could I get corevorbis to work with it ?
I mean without your built in splitter, I use oggds0996 to split and corevorbis as a decoder. But when I activate your ogm splitter the vorbis streams are automatically decoded by the vorbis decoder. Is there any way to avoid that ?
sorry for my poor english

[gabest]

Gooop: corevorbis doesn't seem to accept the original vorbis media type anymore... Seems I forgot about this :)

dzy: I set ac3filter to spdif and watched the dsound renderer's properties during playback. It showed the same things as for you, but on the other page it also showed increasing number of samples rendered without errors, like it was doing just fine. Of course I couldn't verify it without listening, but is it also playing the same way for you?

uneasy: I knew it would be too easy, "MAX_PATH*2 only" through normal command line :) Anyway I need to test it to say more. (Yesterday I was busy improving the seeking time of the new ogg splitter :))

[dzy]

In all cases, the frame number are increasing, errors are kept at 0, looks like it's playing all right.
so I think it's the audio switcher conflicting with DirectSound.

DirectSound with Audio Switcher disabled, have sound
146/2/48000/192000/4/1.00
Buffer Info
Dur: 32ms, Discontinuities: 1, Fullness: 90%
other fields are 0 or -

DirectSound with Audio Switcher enabled, no sound
146/2/48000/192000/4/1.00
Buffer Info
Dur: 0ms, Discontinuities: 0, Fullness: 0% <------------- doesn't look right here
other fields are 0 or -

WaveOut with Audio Switcher disabled, have sound
146/2/48000/192000/4/1.00
Buffer Info
Dur: 32ms, Discontinuities: 1, Fullness: -%
other fields are -

Wave Out with Audio Switcher enabled, have sound
146/2/48000/192000/4/1.00
Buffer Info
Dur: 32ms, Discontinuities: 1, Fullness: -%
other fields are -

[gabest]

Yes, that fullness value and also the incoming sample duration aren't looking alright there...

[ookzDVD]

@gabest,

My .ogm which contain .avi (xvid) + .mp3 muxed with ogmuxer (Cyrius),
won't be played use the MPC 6.4.6.9.
MPC error while render the audio track, codec not found :(

[Alxemi]

Hum it seems that you missed my post for two minutes (it was out while you were writing)
Please put me in contact with any other translator to get advice :)

[gabest]

ookzDVD: I can't remember if I tested any ogm with mp3 (only had with ac3 and vorbis on hdd), it is possible that the media type gets initialized a bit wrong :) Going to check this. (ps: corevorbis was already fixed today), edit: fixed mp3 too, what a silly error I made there :P

Alxemi: Translating can be done with resource editing only. And for the dynamic menues to work you also have to hexedit the text :) Reshacker and hex workshop are the two programs I can recommend, but there may be better utils too.

[Lobuz]

I know it was raised up many times but I think it's different thing.
Tested Matroska file with 1 Video 2 audio streams: Vorbis 44.1KHz 128Kbit and Vorbis 32KHz 65Kbit Mono and 2 SRT.
With ZP it works. There are 2 instances of CoreVorbis decoder, 2 MatrixMixers, 2 DefaultDirectSoundDevice and MultiAudioRenderer.
And MatrixMixer works with both streams easily switchable.

Another thing with MMSwitcher. It works properly with MKV with the same param audio streams and 2 instances of MatrixMixer in MPC too. Just MMSwitcher should have higher merit.

Also it's from MatrixMixer page: "+ Support for 16/24/32/float sample formats at input and output + Support for multichannel input and output + Support for dynamic format change at input and output + Vortex support + Time shifting ! Loading several copies of filter bug fixed ! Crash on matrix change fixed"

So if it works in ZP and a little with MMswitch too could it be possible to make some work around it in MPC and make it work natively???

Regards
Lobuz

[calinb]

Originally posted by gabest
calinb: Do you have any autoloading filter installed?
<snip>
I know you said it didn't crash when the autoload subtitles option was unchecked, but maybe there is a conflict between the internal filter and another. Thanks Gabest but no, autoloads don't make a difference at all. It crashes with or without them. Also, I mounted your .nrg file on 3 XP machines and 1 Win2K machine and got the same error. Others in the forum reported that your .nrg/.ini file worked for them.

I'll try some more experiments and report back.

Cal

[ookzDVD]

@gabest,

thank you for the mp3 fix :)

other: is there any plan to support the anamorphic matroska file ?

thank you.

[Alxemi]

Thanks Gabest for the advice.
Now im in contact with Loopback (the russian translator) and i hope i´ll have a spanish version soon.´

Regards

[raistlin2k]

Ok, I found a bug in the MPC-switcher in MPC 6.4.6.9 which is still present in latest 6.4.7.0.

2 5.1 ac3-s inside a MKV, switching to the second one the sound is gone, disabling the inbuilt switcher & using a special fixed version of MMS it works, but this one doesn't display the "Track Name"-tag.

The streams work in Zoomplayer & TCMP as well, hope that Blight can fix this soon.

Thanks
Raist

[Liisachan]

Thanks always for your great player :)

I have this problem: AAC audio in OGM doesn't play if you use the inner Ogg Splitter. It plays, if you don't use the inner Ogg Splitter. Or, it plays with MPC 6.4.6.8. This problem is experienced only with 6.4.6.9 and 6.4.7.0.



Stream 1

Ogg Splitter

Media Type 0:
--------------------------
AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Audio {73647561-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: Unknown GUID Name {000000FF-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
formattype: FORMAT_WaveFormatEx {05589F81-C356-11CE-BF01-00AA0055595A}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 100000
cbFormat: 18

WAVEFORMATEX:
wFormatTag: 0x00ff
nChannels: 2
nSamplesPerSec: 48000
nAvgBytesPerSec: 14624
nBlockAlign: 4
wBitsPerSample: 16

[gabest]

raistlin2k: Which decoder do you use for ac3? I don't know if I have an ogm with two ac3 streams, but going to make one then.

Liisachan: I didn't know it was possible to put aac into ogg. When it was forced into matroska, we had to store a few initializer bytes for the decoder and send them in the media type. This is surely not done by the ogg splitter, it just creates one standard media type for audio and sets the common parameters like sample rate, channels and the wave format id.

[Lobuz]

@Gabest
I posted it earlier but it was last post on page so no-one noticed.


I know it was raised up many times but I think it's different thing.
Tested Matroska file with 1 Video stream adn 2 audio streams: Vorbis 44.1KHz 128Kbit and Vorbis 32KHz 65Kbit Mono and 2 SRT.

With ZP it works. There are 2 instances of CoreVorbis decoder, 2 MatrixMixers, 2 DefaultDirectSoundDevice and MultiAudioRenderer.
And MatrixMixer works with both streams easily switchable.

Another thing with MMSwitcher. It works properly with MKV with the same audio streams and MatrixMixer in MPC too. Just MMSwitcher should have higher merit, so MatrixMixer is after MMSwitcher.

Also it's from MatrixMixer page: "+ Support for 16/24/32/float sample formats at input and output + Support for multichannel input and output + Support for dynamic format change at input and output + Vortex support + Time shifting ! Loading several copies of filter bug fixed ! Crash on matrix change fixed"

So if it works in ZP and a little with MMswitch too could it be possible to make some work around it in MPC and make it work natively???


Could be nice if it works with identical streams with internal MPC switcher. And setting default audio and sub could work with MKV too.

Regards
Lobuz

[calinb]

Originally posted by ookzDVD
@gabest,
other: is there any plan to support the anamorphic matroska file ?
That would be way cool! I'd like to investigate any anamorphic features in matroska. In the meantime, I've just started encoding 720x480 res. in 1.85 and 2.35 anamorphic ARs. I've done the arithmetic for all my display sizes and stored the proper presets in MPC (Pan&Scan >> Edit). It would be nice if it were detected in the mkv file and automated, though. If this feature is already supported by MPC, I'm sorry--there are certainly many MPC features that I've not yet explored. Now, just how does that MPC webserver work, gabest? :)

@gabest: yeah, I was putting aac into ogm files before I started using mkv. I was surprised when SBR even worked (using the mp4 3vix splitter >> ogmuxer trick)! However, I've not had good luck demuxing those ogm files to useful aac for remuxing. Obviously, some important information was lost in the conversion.

[Liisachan]

Originally posted by gabest
I didn't know it was possible to put aac into ogg.
Possibly this is not standardized, but Oggmux_Nic enables you to have aac in OGM.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58522
OR: AAC in OGM is also possible by using GraphEdit, like:
mp4->(3ivx splitter)->aac->(ogg multiplexer)->ogm

[raistlin2k]

Which decoder do you use for ac3? I don't know if I have an ogm with two ac3 streams, but going to make one then.

It is a problem with MKVs only, OGMs works. I tried it with ac3filter.ax & iviaudio.ax.

Raist