New release of Media Player 6.4

[gruppo_sd]

Excuse for my bad english...
I think that there is a bug in MPC: after 6.4.7.5 to play an [rv9+aac].mkv I must disable the internal realmediasplitter and matroskasplitter because the player crash; of these I have installed the last versions available respective the 1.0.0.9 and 1.0.2.1 and mpc works whit the esternal filter. (I have not installed real alternative but real one)
Now a request:it is possible to increase the speed in fast forward and rewind of the movie, have an option to eliminate the audio during the accelerated visions and to make yes that the button it remains pressed in place of the play button?
Thanks

[gabest]

chros:

Dedynamic seems to be another filter which cannot switch between formats on the fly, this is now required for the internal audio decoder. You could set the ac3 decoder to downmix to 2 channels to avoid it.

gruppo_sd:

6475 isn't the latest version of mpc, that may be older than those standalone filters.

The sound can be muted ... manually, for now :), but that toolbar with the controls is too limited to do such tricks like staying pushed while you hold the mouse button down, mfc is not vcl.

[gruppo_sd]

Excuse but I have a problem whit english: 6.4.7.5 is the last version that works (for me) with the internal filer enable; 6.4.7.6 - 6.4.7.7 - 6.4.7.8 crash if internal filter (realmediasplitter and matroskasplitter) are anable so I install exernal (from Guliverkli)and disable the internal to play [rv9+aac].mkv file. Is only for me?

[phrentec]

Gabest, Is there any way you can add a feature to show the total bitrate of the playing video under file>properties
it becomes tedious to always bring out the calculator.
Just take (totalTime/filesizeKbytes)8 or something like that.

Also ctrl+rightarrow seek to the right 5secs. Is there a way to customize this seek time. Like if a user wanted it to seek 9seconds instead of 5.

thanks.

[chros]

Originally posted by phrentec
Also ctrl+rightarrow seek to the right 5secs. Is there a way to customize this seek time. Like if a user wanted it to seek 9seconds instead of 5.

U can already customize it under:
Options -> Tweaks -> Jump distances medium ...

[phrentec]

thanks, I didn't realize that that was what it was.

[yevaman]

Gabest it seems That u aer active is this forum

I hope I get an answer..
First of all congratulation for this great player..
So her's my problem

The ac3mpc's internal decodeur doesnt work with an spdif output..

The ac3drivers0.70b offer an option to set them to waveout output instead of diretsound.. This option gave big result for many users with spdif problem..Anyway If i change to wave output in Mediaplayerclassic , i get no sound at all..

The problem is the same with DTS Spdif output .
According to other post it seems that I'm not the only one that can't use the SPIDF output even in changing directsound/waveout option..

Would be cool If there a way to fix that.. I wish i could use mpc as dvd player !

Second point , As i Said mpc don't work with my DTS dvd and my External decoder with my spdif output
so I use WINDVD.. This one gimme me no problem with my spdif output , gimme great result in dolby 5.1 and dts..
So.. i had an idea. I thought i can reg the intervideo audio plugins to MPC.. I did it but no way :(... No spdif ouptut , no sound.. It's strange how the same plugin can give sound with WINDVD5 and no sound with another one ( mpc)

IF u can help to solve all that stuff would be pretty cool !


See ya

[yevaman]

Originally posted by gabest
Yes, it should pass through both ac3 and dts. One more question, there on that ppage I recommended to check, is the format (top most number) 148?

It Doesn't for me..Bouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu :(

My spec : amd athlon XP , TERRATEC AREA SOUND FUN with spdif OUTPUT
Extrnal decodeur Pionner vx-806

[gabest]

yevaman:

And with ac3filter? Is it 148 there? If you have a fast internet connection we could debug this problem remotely.

You can use windvd's decoder in mpc if you disable the internal. If there is nothing else with higher merit, then it should load next.

gruppo_sd:

Don't know why it crashes in those versions, the remote debugging offer stands for you too.

[yevaman]

Originally posted by gabest
yevaman:

And with ac3filter? Is it 148 there? If you have a fast internet connection we could debug this problem remotely.

You can use windvd's decoder in mpc if you disable the internal. If there is nothing else with higher merit, then it should load next.




I have done and trying using the Windvd's decoder with mpc , no way..
With ac3filter 0.70b All is working ok.. Anyway I don't understand what u mean but "is it 148" :)...

I've got a Fast internet connexion (250k/s dn , 40 dn ) so I catch to offer to solve my problme With the debug method !! :)

Tell me how can i reach you, Perhpas we can meet in efnet ?

Tell me , I will do what u say :)

[gabest]

Originally posted by gabest: "Yes, it should pass through both ac3 and dts. One more question, there on that ppage I recommended to check, is the format (top most number) 148? "
You: "It Doesn't for me..Bouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu "
Me: "And with ac3filter? Is it 148 there?"

Is it clear now? :) By the ppage I was referring to the property page of the audio renderer.

Anyway, tell me where to go on irc and I'll be there.

[yevaman]

Originally posted by gabest
Originally posted by gabest: "Yes, it should pass through both ac3 and dts. One more question, there on that ppage I recommended to check, is the format (top most number) 148? "
You: "It Doesn't for me..Bouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu "
Me: "And with ac3filter? Is it 148 there?"

Is it clear now? :) By the ppage I was referring to the property page of the audio renderer.

Anyway, tell me where to go on irc and I'll be there.

#doom9 on efnet , i'm there waiting for you -> nickname yevaman :)

[phrentec]

Gabest: It would really be nice if there was an option under Tweaks to change the percentage of the 'Increase Rate' and 'Decrease Rate'. Reason because when a user is listening to a lecture audio, increasing the play rate by just a smaller amount than the current amount(which I think is 2x) will make the user able to figure out what is being said in the audio and not have it go way too fast but just fast enough to get through the lecture a bit quicker. this will very very much be appreciated by the students in all of us. Thanks.

[toraneko]

thanks again for that great player !

I don't see *.mp4 files when loading an additionnal audio file unless displaying all files, even though they do play well.

could that file extension be added to "mpeg4 files", please ?

[frodoontop]

Don't know if this belongs in this thread, but anyway:

When using a matroska file with multiple subs included, ripped with vsrip, the information of default tracks is being disregarded at the moment. I hope this can be easily changed for the next versions of media player classic and/or the matroska splitter.

And one other thing, could the latest vsfilter be included in mpc? I got the feeling it was gonna be the media player which needed a minimum of extra codecs to be registered. Without the latest vsfilter one cannot read these subs at all.

Regards,

frodoontop

[Trojan]

Hi gabest
Great player but I am hoping you can help me out with a small problem.
I am using your player as the media player in myhtpc but when I want to watch an avi I cannot get media classic to open in fullscreen. I have tried everything but no luck so any suggestions you might have would be great. I have looked at your pathways but I am wondering do I put /fullscreen after the exe. or in the parameters box. I am running out of ideas as I have tried both ways and everyother thing in every way possible so any help woul be great.

Thank you

[gizmotech]

@gabest

I'm sure you've been hearing multiple reports on this, but I'll say it here just as a side note.

A number of users out there are very interested in the remaining subtitle track name support. We have been recieving many reports, in a-l and other irc channels about users using mkv files w/ multiple subtitle tracks all being listed by their language code.

Unfortunately for the time being, only TCMP has made a player which can read this track name, though many of our users dislike it and perfer to use MPC.

As an example of how frustrating this subsituation can be, linked below is the stream output from an mkv file in TCMP. the same file in mpc just lists, english after english, while not providing the users any of the relevent information.

http://www.anime-legion.net/subs.jpg

At any rate, we would REALLY appreciate it if you could update either VSfilter to display the information, or update MPC to correctly display this information. It would really be of benefit to a number of users.

Gizmo.

[ookzDVD]

@gabest,

I would like to ask about the subtitle in the MPC,
should I have to install the VSFilter.dll to watch the subtitle ?

Thank you.

[chros]

Originally posted by gabest
chros:

Dedynamic seems to be another filter which cannot switch between formats on the fly, this is now required for the internal audio decoder. You could set the ac3 decoder to downmix to 2 channels to avoid it.


I have found a newer version of it: the new name is DynEQ ... (I have created a new thred to it: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71860 )

I have uploaded this DynEQ.zip to your ftp ...
Why this dyneq.cll doesn't connect to anything in MPC ?
You could try how it works, if you download the TCMP (www.tcmp.org) ...

I would very happy if you could integrate it (or at least get to work) this filter in MPC ... please , please, pleeaaase ... :)

Thanx

[[Toff]]

Originally posted by chros
Why this dyneq.cll doesn't connect to anything in MPC ?
Don't search too far, it's because this DynEQ version is customized for TCMP with some special function.

[murattttt]

Great work Gabest!..
I like MPC and it is getting quite popular in my country as well (Maybe because I make a lot of publicity). Well, it is of course because of your great code. However I miss one thing when you first released the first version of MPC. That was its simplicity(at half of the size it is today). I like the new features and tweaks but my user friends get into trouble and mess with every setting in the player when they might only view the subtitles or other basic stuff.
I think it would be nice to release a lite version which does not include MPEG 1-2, Realmedia decoders, dts/ogg/ filters or other container filters and TV tools, snapshot features etc.; just basic avi(maybe mkv) playback with/without ac3 filter.
IMHO your project would be quite charming with expandibility capabilities as in Mirandaim. I don't get any of it if I don't need it.
Forget these all if you think it already is too complicated. We're just happy.

[RedDwarf69]

Extra decoders don't make life EASIER to newbies?

[Gordie Howe]

Originally posted by Trojan
Hi gabest
Great player but I am hoping you can help me out with a small problem.
I am using your player as the media player in myhtpc but when I want to watch an avi I cannot get media classic to open in fullscreen. I have tried everything but no luck so any suggestions you might have would be great. I have looked at your pathways but I am wondering do I put /fullscreen after the exe. or in the parameters box. I am running out of ideas as I have tried both ways and everyother thing in every way possible so any help woul be great.

Thank you

MyHTPC has a strange bug where you sometimes have to put a blank space after the exe's parameters. These are the parameters I use for MPC: "/close /fullscreen ". Note the extra blank space at the end.

[ernstblaauw]

Still, the earlier mentioned Real Alternative does not work with version 6.4.7.6 or newer. It really seems to be a bug of MPC. Gabest, can you look after this problem? With version 6.4.7.5 everything works fine.

[RedDwarf69]

Originally posted by ernstblaauw
Still, the earlier mentioned Real Alternative does not work with version 6.4.7.6 or newer. It really seems to be a bug of MPC. Gabest, can you look after this problem? With version 6.4.7.5 everything works fine.

Don't really know, but perhaps has something to do with Options->Player->Formats->Real Media File? Try using "Realmedia" and not "DirectShow".
Some versions ago gabest changed this....because something I can't remember :p

[chros]

Originally posted by [Toff]
Don't search too far, it's because this DynEQ version is customized for TCMP with some special function.

I know ... (because it didn't work the standard way, at the overrides panel) and that's why I need a developer (eg. Gabest :) ) to implement it somehow ... :)

By The way: what does the merit value means at the overrides panel ?

[gizmotech]

The merit value is part of the directshow interface, and iirc it's used for weighting purpose when multiple splitters/decoders exist for 1 stream.

Gizmo.

[Melkor]

Would it be possible to integrate an option to start MPC as a high priority process like Zoom Player does?

[chros]

Originally posted by gizmotech
The merit value is part of the directshow interface, and iirc it's used for weighting purpose when multiple splitters/decoders exist for 1 stream.

Thanx ... I found that in the new Zoomplayer too (4.0 beta2), with a little help text...

[chros]

Originally posted by Melkor
Would it be possible to integrate an option to start MPC as a high priority process like Zoom Player does?

It's integrated at the latest 6.4.7.9 version, under:
Options -> Player
Process priority above normal checkbox

[Liisachan]

Originally posted by chros
It's integrated at the latest 6.4.7.9 version, under:
Options -> Player
Process priority above normal checkbox

This option is great. But it just doesn't work for me.
i.e. even if I check this checkbox and restart MPC,
it (mplayerc.exe) will run as NORMAL according to TaskManager.:confused:

The similar option in Bs Player does work for me.
i.e. if you set it HIGH, the priority seen in the TaskManager is HIGH.

[Melkor]

This option is great. But it just doesn't work for me. i.e. even if I check this checkbox and restart MPC,
Hi,
it works if once checked in preferences, but it seems that is is not correctly read. After a restart of MPC the setting is not activated.

[Liisachan]

Originally posted by Melkor
Hi,
it works if once checked in preferences, but it seems that is is not correctly read. After a restart of MPC the setting is not activated.

Confirmed: it works only within one session. Restarting MPC will default this option, altho the checkbox is still checked.

Edit:
"Store settings to .ini file" doesn't do the trick either
By checking that checkbox, "Priority=32" will be changed into "Priority=32768"...Seems that MPC writes the new settings in .ini but it does not read it next time

[gabest]

Confirmed, even though it reads the value back, it does not apply it then...

Any problems with the mpeg splitter? I was expecting many bugreports :)

[rakaz]

I've tried the new MPEG splitter with all kinds of MPEG files, both MPEG 1 and 2, and haven't found any problems so far.

I did find a problem with elementary streams, such as mp2, mp3 and m2v. None of these streams are accepted by the splitter and still require the MS 'MPEG-I Stream Splitter':

Media Type 0:
--------------------------
AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Stream {E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}
subtype: MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG1Audio {E436EB87-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}
formattype: TIME_FORMAT_NONE {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 1
cbFormat: 0


Media Type 1:
--------------------------
AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Stream {E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}
subtype: TIME_FORMAT_NONE {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
formattype: TIME_FORMAT_NONE {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 1
cbFormat: 0

[gabest]

These must be raw streams where there is no PES header before the frames (could be an mpeg audio file in this case, like mp3). I'm not very interested in parsing them, since there is nothing new to add to the existing filters. Maybe the mpeg-i splitter could be replaced with a better one to not choke (or even crash) on some id3 tags.

edit: just noticed you mentioned "mp2, mp3, m2v", yes that's what I meant by raw streams :)

[Loopback]

Nothing wrong so far with new mpeg splitter. I've tried about 30 mpeg movies, mpeg1 and mpeg2, elementary streams also and have not found any troubles.
But one bug seems remain from the previous version: "save image" option don't work after first using anymore. Silent saving (F5) works as expected.

[dzy]

great work, the mpeg splitter plays all my us/eu hdtv ts fine.
Is it possible to add aac demuxing? japanese hdtv uses aac for audio.

[gabest]

dzy: Oh, could it be I have aac in my only jap ts file? "(HDTV)HAPPY_Xmas_SHOW!_20031223_MM_(188byte).ts" (sorry, can't remember who uploaded it, maybe you :)) I was wondering what kind of stream it can be inside a PES with 0xc0 id. It should have been mpeg audio, but didn't look like such.

Loopback: That image saving prob is a strange one...

p.s. there is a silly bug I just found, I forgot to enable the new subpicture types for the null subtitle renderer, it is not a problem until the decoder has an input pin for subs, but the mpeg-1 decoder of windows doesn't have one, so that warning dialog pops up with the pin and media types.

[Lobuz]

I have one clip which have problems with embedeed splitter while changing resolutions. When I switch to 640x480 the picture is freezing and pause play doesnt help only clik on seekbar helps.
And another problem with that clip is with embeded mpeg2 decoder while clicking on seekbar is causing disapperaing of picture.

The clip plays without problems with not internal filters.
I can sand a small fragment.

Regards
Lobuz

[gabest]

Originally posted by Lobuz
The clip plays without problems with not internal filters.
I can sand a small fragment.Yes, send it please. The resolution change can cause bad things but that other problem sounds interesting.

[Lobuz]

That new buffering doesn't help much avi files without proper (or at all) interleaving played from cd-rom. It is still causing much stress for drive trying to read from 2 different places of CD.
Could it be possible to read more data of smaller stream(s)(audio) to buffer. Shouldn't it reduce a drive stress?

Regards
Lobuz

[iwod]

sorry......... haven't been checking with mpc for a long time. But does MPC support SMil yet?

[planet1]

Hi,

first a big THX to Gabest for this great player,
its coming closer to perfection with every new release :).

regarding the new *internal* MPEG splitter, here are my observations:

its basically working OK
(seek / jump to location - takes a little longer than with external splitters [~1/3 second video freeze - noticeable on large files]):

VOB (mpeg2 video & ac3) -----> OK

VOB (mpeg1 video & mp2 audio) ------> NOT tested


MPEG 2 system (video+audio) -------> OK

SVCD (mpeg2 video + mpeg1 layer II audio) -----> OK

SVCD (mpeg 2 video + Mpeg2 Multichannel) ------> OK (audio decoded as mp2)


VCD ---------> some weird "subtitle" error @ load -- but file is played correctly afterwards (only occurs if *internal* mpeg video decoder is disabled)

MPEG 1 system (video+mp2 audio) -----> same as VCD

MPEG 1 system (video+mp1 audio) -----> same as VCD



as for elementary streams:

.m1v & .m2v -------> external splitter is used

.mpa (mpeg1 layer I audio) & .mp2 (mpeg1 layer II audio)
-------> external splitter is used

.mp3 ------> apparently *internal* splitter is used, though im not sure on this


some feature requests for future versions:

1. DTS-WAV support - played from HDD (.wav) and from CD-A directly
If you need some samples -especially with "open-bitrate" - id be happy to provide some.

2. MPEG-2 Multichannel Audio [no AAC] decoder filter -
so MediaPlayer Classic can truely be called the first fully featured DVD software player - there is no player which can actually decode the multichannel extensions.
I know its a nearly dead sound format - but still its the only way you can get 5.1 on SuperVCD.
The only "user-friendly" encoder can be found here: http://hypercube.is.dreaming.org/
Philips also released some encoding / extraction tools.

3. Some basic birate (video+audio) info, similar to powerdvd and windvd.


That would be all ;)

Bye

[Coroner]

Gabest

I tried out the new mpeg2 splitter and am happy to report it works fine with subtitles (SSA and SRT). It doesn't lose synch when seeking like the other one did. I had to use the other splitter on overide up until now.

New splitter works great so far.

[tiki4]

Just wanted to say thank you for the new release. I just read on the doom9 news page that it supports SVCD subtitles. I will have to check this, as I wait for that feature for a long time now,

so thanks again, Gabest.

tiki4

[Coyote]

thanks a lot gabest, i've been waiting for the ability to use the sub streams from vob for years. it's working perfectly. now i'll be able to read the lyrics from my favorite jpop artist (well, actualy, i'll try to ;))

[yevaman]

Hey gabest it's yevaman

We passed some hours on irc concerning the spdid output bug. U finally fixed that and send me a debug version.

I was hoping the next official release will have those fixes included but it's seems that not..

My spidf output is back to silence with no switching to my external decoder.. :(

Hope u will fix that :)

See ya

[gabest]

yevaman:

This is bad, I thought it was ok :'( Are you up for another test in this weekend? I'm going to be at the usual place.

planet1:

> SVCD (mpeg 2 video + Mpeg2 Multichannel) ------> OK (audio decoded as mp2)

I'm afraid libmad cannot output more than two channels, but that it decoded something at all is nice :)

> VCD ---------> some weird "subtitle" error @ load -- but file is played correctly afterwards (only occurs if *internal* mpeg video decoder is disabled)

Yea, that's the dummy subtitle stream I mentioned on the previous page, it cannot be connected to the mpeg-1 decoder because it doesn't have any input pin for subtitles. Will be fixed in the next release.

> as for elementary streams: ...

These are only handled if they are packetized, ie. they have a PES header. Not having an index mpeg is not a good subject for seeking (still better than ogm :)), but also not having timestamps (and while being variable bitrate very often) ... now this can hurt :) These streams need to be fully parsed before opening them, they are only good to be intemediate files for authoring really. Even vbr mp3 cannot be positioned precisely.

> 1. DTS-WAV support

I'm still against stupid dts-wav files, but I might just do a filter in the future...


> 2. MPEG-2 Multichannel Audio [no AAC] decoder filter

Don't know anything about it really. You should talk to the guys who made libmad.

> 3. Some basic birate (video+audio) info, similar to powerdvd and windvd.

It's not very convinient to invent or support n+1 interfaces all just a little different (if there is any), just because there is no general way diretshow to let the player know about these information. DirectShow has a few limitations. Maybe in DirectShow v2 or with a new API... :)

iwod:

Not really.

Lobuz:

Are you sure it was mpc's avi splitter reading the file? It should not load when detecting non interleaved avi. Also, after it starts running, it reads the file sequentially, without any seeking.

I've just checked the mpeg you uploaded. Tried it with a few different splitters and decoders, but when not played from the beginning they all just froze the picture (couldn't sync/catch on with the picture, sound still played). Once the internal mpeg2 decoder showed something else too (colored garbage :)), but I guess only because it misread a start code and started decoding the wrong data.



p.s. it was really aac in my jap ts file :)

[yevaman]

Originally posted by gabest
yevaman:

This is bad, I thought it was ok :'( Are you up for another test in this weekend? I'm going to be at the usual place.

planet1:




Sure we can , I'm free tonight if u want

That's strange that the "private" build u made with me was working very well and the official is broken.
Something has certainly been broken in the code since u added some stuff :)

Anyway I 'll be at the same place tonight , or Sunday night

See ya gabest