New release of Media Player 6.4

[gabest]

Originally posted by Flay
Light Alloy - player which can seek to key frames. :-)
How ? - just pasre AVI by itself and seek to calculated position.
It works ! Hmmmm, not a bad idea :)

[gabest]

New test version: http://vobsub.edensrising.com/get2.php/mpctest.rar

Capturing part may not work on every configuration. It was only tested under xp with that wdm bt8x8 driver from sourceforge, and also with a simple usb cam.

If I forgot to add something you suggested, just ask it again.

[Yusaku]

woo, nice.

Feature requests: when you press Alt+arrows more times, cache it and seek to end time (e.g. if I press it 10 times, seek 50 secs ahead instead of 10 times 5 secs) - it still takes too long time to e.g. seek, say, two minutes.

support opening URLs - since I replaced the default WMP6.4 with your MPC, everytime I click on media file link on some server it is first downloaded to temp and then played. With WMP it was played back while downloading (at least in case of MPGs and ASFs, not sure about AVIs)

[wertherman]

Managed to re-install win2k in the end and now your media player plays mp3's files no problem, doubt I'll ever know what got messed up with my previous system (unless it happens again).....

PS: If you want to make it more like the original media player you should put a feature to be able to load and display .jpg files....

[Yusaku]

Also, the bug of correct aspect ratio switching on DVDs while having DVobSub loaded still remains. All that is needed is to pres Numlk-5 (pan&scan reset) and it corrects itselves, so you're almost there :)

[gabest]

With which mpeg2 decoder?

[Yusaku]

CyberLink from PDVD4, iviaudio for AC3.

Maybe it is an issue of buggy CyberBlade videocard drivers though :). One never knows with this videocard...

Edit: when playing with the DVD playback a bit more, I found that it indeed still is not working at all, I just pressed the Num-5 key at the wrong time :) (movie switched to 2.11:1 at that time)

additional DVD bugs:
Ctrl-Arrows does the stangest things, including but not limited to stopping the timer (bottom right), randomly seeking to some place +-15 secs from current position and audio mess. And the last time I tried it the strangest freeze of computer I've seen so far (services, Alt-Tab working, mouse cursor correctly changing but programs totally dead... thus after trying to revive the system for a while requiring me to write this again ^_^).

And Alt-Arrows is probably not yet implemented in DVD playback...

you'll have to wait about 1 month before I test capture functions though :)

[Yusaku]

New bugreports: after pressing . (stop), player seeks to beginning but keeps showing the last picture played - you probably should play first frame and stop again to behave "normally" (same goes for end of playback, WMP used to always show the first frame of video in "stop" state I think)

I think I had one more, but cannot remember now... maybe later. And another request: could you make that newly added "go from fullscreen to windowed on the end of playback" function optional? It annoys me :) Registry is enough, checkbox in "tweaks" tab is even better :D

[gabest]

Hm, wmp64 is very tricky when stopping. I think it only puts itself into paused state. It even disables the pause button.

[dopef1sh]

Hey, I've been looking for a windows based dvd player that supported multimonitors. WMP 6.4 plays videos just fine fullscreen (divx5, 704x384 res, 29.97 fps) on my second monitor, but none of my dvd players will play on the second. I just downloaded your latest media player and it actually plays the dvd on my second monitor (!), but unfortunately the frame rate suffers horribly. I know wmp64 will use hardware accel. for video on a second monitor, but I think that yours may not. Any ideas? (or know of a good dvd player that will work on a second monitor?)

--josh

btw, nice player, i may start using this exclusively instead of wmp64

PS: some system info:
P4 2.26Ghz, 512 ram
Primary Video: GeForce4 4400
Secondary Video: ATi XPert 128 (heh, i needed a pci card, so sue me)

[gabest]

The picture decodes into the first video card's memory, no wonder it transfers slow to the second. There would be no performance hit if you had a dual-head video card :)

[dopef1sh]

ahh... it's streaming through 2 video cards... that would explain the problem =) so does wmp64 do this differently (ie: straight to the vid mem of the monitor it's on?) or is dvd decoding just that much slower? (higher bit-rate?) Also, is there a way to fix this? Either on the code side (you) or some bizarre combination of filters (me). Anyway, thanks for that quick reply.

--josh

[gabest]

A question. Were you trying it under xp with the VMR renderless mode checked in the options? If yes, try this build so that you open the dvd when the window is on the secondary monitor: http://vobsub.edensrising.com/get2.php/test.rar

[dopef1sh]

no, I'm using Win2k (although I did download the test.rar anyway... still chugging, but I did not see a renderless mode in the options)

--josh

[Yusaku]

I remembered the second suggestion:

Suppose you have this file structure

movie.avi

movie.English.ssa
movie.Hindi.ssa
movie.Uruguay.ssa

movie.Hindi.wav
movie.Uruguay.mp3

could you make a new entry in menu somewhere for fast switching languages, like subtitles are now?

I know that you have to rebuild graph, but just make it work as a shortcut to "open file" with that audio (thus rebuilding graph tree) and then seek to same timestamp.

[gabest]

When you switch the audio on the playlist, it stops the graph, removes/add the audio filters and reruns it at the last position. It turned out to be quite fast, so that's not a problem :)

But to make you happy I will try to link the names of the subtitle and the audio files somehow.

p.s. Yesterday when configuring my hard drive layout for raid, that stupid htp370 controller erased my partition with all my sources (I only included two drives for raid0 and it added the third too!). Fortunately I could recover it with this excellent prog: http://www.cgsecurity.org//index.html?testdisk.html. All other I found were only demo versions...

[Yusaku]

Ad sources: whew! At least now you'll backup :)

Yeah, the playlist way works, but it is quite slow (to do it by mouse, not program response...). And on this computer, using non-VMR renderer and latest stable ffdshow (official milan's build), it does NOT seek in video after I load the .mp3 in playlist. It works from File>Open though (i.e. I load the .avi, open playlist, select .mp3 and it loads almost - not exactly, but close - synchronized audio + video. But then when I seek, video stops for ~5 seconds and then continues as if nothing happened, while audio seeks correctly; resulting in total desynchronization).

Bottom line: probably the only really compatible way is to throw the graph away and build a new one from scratch - it takes ~3 times as much time (about 1.5sec here), but works correctly.

Also it'd be nice if you could implement some weird keyboard shortcut for "next audio track", as in DVobSub (so that it's scriptable for remote control...)

[gabest]

Hm, that's strange, I've never experienced any problem with switching the audio.

[murattttt]

Hello Gabest
Great job, great player and what a small file size with MP Classic!
I just watch everything with that player now on.
When I burn my movies onto CD I used to place a MicroDVD (just was my favorite) and place an ini file that I mostly used for starting the movie in fullscreen.
Now I try for the same thing in MP Classic.
Is there a similar way of creating an ini file or sth. to put some parameters for it?
I'd just look forward to.
Thanks

[Manao]

Bug report :

I've just encoded a movie in an ogm, and MPC can't render graph ( Error message : Failed to render the file ), whereas Zoom Player and BSPlayer succeeded in. I've made several other movies, none have problem. But recently, two of them could not be rendered, another worked fine.

The ogm were created with oggDSF 0.9.9.3, subtitleDSF 1.3.3.0, and OggMux 0.9.2. ( 2 ogg vorbis soundtracks, 1 or 2 subtitles, chapters ). The video codec was Xvid. No error detected when muxing the files.

At this point, the file didn't render with MPC. I had to cut it in two part. I used the oggtools, and the files also didn't render.

I have Windows XP, service pack yet NOT installed, but WMP9 is.

[xox]

@gabest:
everytime i play a video file (any type), an error message comes up (see the attachment). the file will play just fine though...the message box just appears everytime i load/play a file. am using winxp pro (SP1 installed), no wmp.

[gabest]

Next version out at http://vobsub.edensrising.com/mpc.php

Manao and xox, could you check again if these problems still exist with 6403.

[Manao]

Thanks a lot, that's working :)

Edit :

Sorry, it seems I spoke to quickly : the ogm plays fine, but with the new ogg dsf by tobias ( 0.9.9.5 ), I can't access to the menu of the tray icone. Each time I click on it, nothing happen. It happen for all the video, even those which didn't have the problem with previous version of MPC. The strange thing is that at the opening of the clip, the player seems to try to open / close several times, quickly, the ogg filter ( which makes the tray icone to blink, and the icone in the task bar to appear disappear several times ). Then the clip plays, we can acces to the ogg filter with the menu of the player, but not by the tray icone. It doesn't happen with Zoom Player, so it should not be the filter. I didn't try with the previous version of the filter.

[Pasqui]

Hi Gabest !
Thanks a lot for this new release. I love your player. But I still have a problem while playing a 4:3 video file in VMR mode. The picture is completely wrong (mainly green with some purple shadows moving) while there is no problem with 16:9 movies. Is this a known issue ?

Best regards,

Pasqui.

[Yusaku]

Bugreport: when trying to open secondary audio track (separate AVI and either MP3 or WAV file) it fails to open the audiotrack - even shows icon of crossed speaker.

[xox]

@gabest:
nope, the problem still persists. the same error box still comes up, but the movies play fine.

[gabest]

xox: I just typed a few words of that dialog's message into google and I found this (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=3D3488FE.9B0E2F47%40hevanet.com&rnum=24&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dfile%2Bopen%2B%2522typed%2Bthe%2Bname%2Bcorrectly%2522%26start%3D20%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26selm%3D3D3488FE.9B0E2F47%2540hevanet.com%26rnum%3D24). Update: Confirmed, I can reproduce this problem if the "DDE Message" box is not empty. Next time I will clear this box when registering a new file type :)

Yusaku: What filters are in the graph after opening? (you can connect graphedit to mpc)

Pasqui: What video card do you use? May be it can't do the yuv->rgb conversion correctly or something.

Manao: Lol, I made a stupid mistake in the source code. This has to be fixed finally. I will upload a new version as soon as my homepage gets back online.

[Yusaku]

Gabest: all audio filters except the audio renderer. Video is classic ffdshow(+DVobSub in case of normal renderer) way (both renderers tried)

MP3s:
source>MPEG-I Stream splitter>InterVideo Audio Decoder>empty output pin

WAVs: Source>WAVE parser>empty pin

It is empty no matter if I select DirectSound or WaveOut on tweaks tab

Soundcard is SB Live! so it should not have big compatibility problems

[gabest]

Hm, I'll try those iviaudio filters.

Update: Could you send your iviaudio.ax to me? Mine doesn't want to decode any mp3 :confused:

[xox]

@gabest:
thanks for the quick reply and the link. i was playing around with the dde and some other things with mpc and zoomplayer and i found out that when a type of media file is not registered in mpc and you attempt to open it by right click -> open with -> media player classic, the same error msg box will appear, but the movie will still play fine. that could be a problem for many people have more than one tyep of media player installed (like me :)) and still want the option to choose other programs for whatever reason. the only solution i could come up with now is to register all types of media files you have with mpc, then right click -> open with -> 'whatever media player' on the file instead of the other way around...unless there's a better solution....

[Yusaku]

I've tried adding audio renderers runtime using graphedit, but it complained about imcompatible pins !!! :(

The strangest thing is that exactly the same audio filters are rendered no problem without the video part... This is especially weird with WAV files (uncompressed) - I understand that iviaudio can mess it up a bit, but uncompressed audio relies on wave parser only.

[gabest]

Huh? How can that be??? Can you add two audio renders at the same time?

[gabest]

xox: Try to enter anything for .txt in the dde message box and even notepad will show you this error when double clicking a simple text file. I think zoomplayer or any other player which you have associated previously has set his own dde message and after linking those extensions to mpc they stayed there, but unfortunately mpc cannot receive any of them and explorer gives you its warning.

[Yusaku]

Of course I can :)

It must be something new, because the latest beta you posted in Capture forum still worked without any problems (6.4.00.0003, filesize 366592b, archive name mpc2kxp.zip)

[gabest]

Ok, but why can't you do it in graphedit now? Or did you try it while being connected to mpc?

[Yusaku]

Yeah... I guess MPC's graph is not remotelly editable, eh? :stupid:

Edit: that's what I meant when I said "runtime" ;)

[Pasqui]

@gabest
my video card is a Matrox G400 with lastest video drivers available for WinXP. As I stated, I only have this problem with 4:3 videos, not with 16:9 or 20:9 videos.

[gabest]

I have an idea, could you send me a screenshot? :)

Also, what if you make the picture height smaller? (numpad 2)
On my notebook the colors get shifted if the top of the picture is positioned above the desktop, but for that I can only blame the faulty drivers I think. (tried with every renderer)

[Pasqui]

@gabest
Here is the screenshot. Either the decrease or increase of height, weight or size does not change anything.

Pasqui.

[Manao]

@Gabest :

Thanks, now it's working fine with the 6.4.0.4. MPC now equals Zoom Player for playback of ogm.

[Yusaku]

@Pasqui: That's strange - I have exactly same configuration (G400 with latest drivers on XP SP1) and it does not produce any weird artifacts with 4:3 movies...

@Gabest: external audio files still do not work, as opposed to 6.4.0.2 and 6.4.0.3 betas :(

[Pasqui]

I've identified in which case my corrupt image appears. It is only with 4:3 movies in VMR mode with my desktop configured in 16bpp or 32 bpp. No problem occurs with a desktop in 24bpp.

Pasqui.

[Yusaku]

Yeah, because at 24bpp there's no Direct3D => no VMR rendering and Overlay renderer takes its place instead

[murattttt]

I was very finely watching my ogm and xcd CD's with vobsub subtitles,
however when I moved to version 6.0.4 I could not be able to see them.
I registered dvobsub again but it did not load vobsub filters either. (needless to say I had unregistered them when I began to use mpc because I was reading two subtitles in every movie)
I am just curious if this is a bug or not.

[gabest]

Is it only happening with ogm+xcd? How does the graph look in graphedit? Which version of dvobsub do you use?

[vip]

First of all thanks gabest for great player! Second: i got some probs with new v6.4.0.4 2kxp build. When i play mpeg2 clips captured from SAT or play DVDs i got 3 windows - 1. mpc window with controls and no video; 2. Active Movie window without any controls or video; 3. Active Movie without controls and with video. And while playing i got 3 Video Renderers in the Play\Filter menu. InterVideo filters used while playing. Other media types (like DivX, OGG, XviD, MPEG1) plays with no problem. My OS is WinXP SP1. MPC 6.4.0.2 worked just fine.

Sorry for my poor english.

[gabest]

Weren't they two video renderers and one overlay mixer? If another program is already using an overlay surface and you tell mpc to also use the overlay mixer then this problem can happen. The overlay mixer won't let the decoder connect to its input pin, and the automatic graph builer falls back to the normal render.

[vip]

I prepare screenshot, so you can look by yourself... There is no any other players running etc becides mpc. If i play a clip in PowerDVD or WinDVD it plays fine in one window ;), but when i try to play it with mpc i got 3 windows...

Well after 3 attempts with adding attach to this message, i've just upload screenshot on my own website. Here it is: http://x69.narod.ru/images/capture.png

[murattttt]

Is it only happening with ogm+xcd? How does the graph look in graphedit? Which version of dvobsub do you use?[/

I now see that I see the subtitles when I re-register dvobsub.
However I heard that dvobdub was also able to read *.sub files when compressed with rar(Yes, with the same name). But dvobsub alone in my system was never able to uncompress and show them until MP Classic.

Now I can see the subtitles but not the compressed ones. I think that is not because of the MPC but some unregistered filter perhaps.

It is happening with any video I make (avi,ogm,avi or ogm in XCD).
I use Dvobsub 2.18 (is there a new version? Oh, how embarrassing for me if there is...)
Well, I can never get used to graphedit and can't say anything related to it (sorry).
I want to use the new version because CPU usage is hell of a little with 6.0.4 (just as WMP). But I still put the older one in my CD's because of subtitles and ability to read XCD's without hassle ( I think I didn't mention this but ah I also have this problem).

If there is a quite explanatory Graphedit guide I'll just begin to use it because it seems I can not be a divx-xcd specialist without it. :D
Still again this player is what I came up to the easiest to use and configurable as well. Now that I do not want to use any other player.
Maybe then comes an installer with it but I feel that it may spoil the beauty of simplicity.
I think this submit has become so messy (sorry again).
Keep up the good work Gabest.[/QUOTE]

[gabest]

vip: Tried a few mpeg2 decoders and noticed that I also render the not connected and inactive pins for subpictures and cc. They both open up a video window because they can't connect to anywhere else.

murattttt: Ooops, I forgot about xcd when I made the built-in vcd/svcd file reader filter :P It does exactly what the xcd source filter, but only expects mpeg data and so it only reports mpeg as the subtype.