New release of Media Player 6.4

[lighty]

MPC 6.4.8.2 is out for some time now and ASX support is still broken (since 6.4.7.4). So it't back to WMP9 for me (at least for some files).

Any progress in that area? :confused:

[r0cket]

Originally posted by blahh
I have a small problem with the system wide volume control. Not sure whether it's really MPC-related (I fear it's a general Real issue), but i'll try it anyway. Perhaps someone has an idea...

Whenever I open a Real stream (e.g. from Amazon) the system volume for wave/mp3 gets lowered to the half. Don't know whether it's the same with other Real files.

Latest versions of MPC and Real alternative are installed.

IIRC rm files may have scripts that can change the volume of the player. And realplayer (and MPC uses it's engine) volume control is global. So there's nothing other you can do than to change the volume back.

[oddball]

Originally posted by CiTay
Right click -> Subtitles -> Enable (it's a switch)


Does not work. Dual audio OGM here and subtitles is greyed out (As per image below). Works fine in Zoom Player

http://www.oddball.nildram.co.uk/mpc.jpg

[oddball]

Oh yeah and as I said saving last aspect ratio would be a simple thing to add surely? :)

[zwahri]

Hi,

I don't know if this was mentioned before (I tried to search through this thread without much success and I read it on a regular basis :) ):

MPC has a really nice feature - a "/shutdown" switch. However, there seems to be a bug with that: It works fine as long as you play a single clip, but when you use a playlist it doesn't work anymore - at the end of the playlist MPC just goes to 'pause' and that's it.

For example, I use this 'batch file' for drag & drop since I'm too lazy to type in the cmdline every time:
start "MPC" "D:\Multimedia\Mplayer Classic\mplayerc.exe" %1 /shutdown /play
It works like a charm as long as i don't use a *.m3u file with it :) . Shutdown also doesn't work if you start a single file using that cmdline and manually add other file to the playlist - so I think it's a MPC bug :)

Can anyone confirm this?

On a side note, I think a GUI switch for shutdown could be useful too, but personally I don't need it.

Thanks,
Z

[Hesse]

I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but I couldn't find a good way to just search this thread. When using VMR9 (or any VMR as far as I can tell), I get very pixelated output on playback. The files I notice it on are enocoded with Xvid 1.0. If I switch to overlay, then the pixelation is gone (or at least not as visible). Almost all lines/edges are very blocky.

Is this a problem with using VMR or is it a problem in MPC or do I just need to adjust something?

Thanks,

Jesse

[Rat Killer]

Does MPC have a user configurable read ahead buffer? If not what buffer size/length does it use?

Thanks

[mrchisholm]

Hi

Downloaded new WinDVD6, tried a 1280x720p (MPEG2 TS) movie and it became 1280x380 for some reason, this doesn't happen with WinDV5.

Anyone have same problem?
I guess it's WinDVD6 fault :confused:

[RedDwarf69]

Originally posted by Hesse
Is this a problem with using VMR or is it a problem in MPC or do I just need to adjust something?

I think VMR7 windowed had not the problem for me, but no internal subtitler anyway.
But yes, I have seen vey bad thinks when using VMR7/9 renderless.
Right now I use Overlay Mixer with DirectVobSub.

[Lobuz]

@mrchisholm

Maybe it's just the way to speed up decoding? When CPU or screen resolution is not enough decoder is dropping some of the data.
On my AthlonXP 2400+ it takes 70%CPU to decode 1920x1080 clip. It shows 1920x544 or 960x544(diferent VMRs) res in MPC. With MPC's internal mpeg2 decoder it's much slower, but full resoultion.

Regards
Lobuz

[eb]

Originally posted by mrchisholm
Hi

Downloaded new WinDVD6, tried a 1280x720p (MPEG2 TS) movie and it became 1280x380 for some reason, this doesn't happen with WinDV5.

Anyone have same problem?
I guess it's WinDVD6 fault :confused:

I think that it is not foult of WinDVD6.
You can try to find decoder that is used to decode picture and try to change Aspect Ratio parameters,set for 16:9 or set there Letterbox.
For Mpeg.TS streams you can use also VLCplayer from VIDEOLAN

eb

[happy_harry]

Where are you Gabest? :confused:
We need new features, eg.: mpeg4, vorbis decoding! :cool:

[m99]

Exams, work, studying, vacation... The world is cruel against us ;-)

[Mei]

I am actually writting an NSIS 2.0 script for an installation of MPC with registering files extensions...

Actually it is for the 2KXP French version, but it can be translated to US and ported for the 9XME version...

Is it interesting at your eyes, or not ?

(this install will support silent installation)

[quietbritishjim]

Originally posted by happy_harry
Where are you Gabest? :confused:
We need new features, eg.: mpeg4, vorbis decoding! :cool: MPC is fine in terms of supported features, but it could do with some bugfixes. I'm having to resort to zoomplayer standard for playing MPEG1 files atm.

[CiTay]

Originally posted by quietbritishjim
MPC is fine in terms of supported features, but it could do with some bugfixes. I'm having to resort to zoomplayer standard for playing MPEG1 files atm.

Just uncheck "MPEG-1 Video Decoder" under Filters in the MPC options, and it will use the system's standard decoder.

[oCe]

I have two machines runnings Windows XP, which both use Media Player Classic as default mediaplayer, which I'm very happy with. Great program. Recently I've upgraded both machines from SP1 to SP2 RC1 and now Media Player Classic won't start anymore! Nothing else changed in the configuration, anyone else noticed this? Is there a workaround or a bugfix/solution to this?

[sillKotscha]

Originally posted by oCe
Is there a workaround or a bugfix/solution to this?

uninstall SP2 RC1 :D

or try RC2 if you can't wait for a final release of SP2

cheers

[oCe]

Originally posted by sillKotscha
uninstall SP2 RC1 :D

or try RC2 if you can't wait for a final release of SP2

cheers

lol ;)

the current build 2138 has the problem, from what I've read on the net is that the more recent 2142 still has the same problem... so I'm affraid that won't help much. any other suggestions?

[Doom9]

actually I've had SP2 RC1 installed for a while and there were no problems whatsoever.

However, I have a feature request: keyboard shortcuts for custom pan&scan profiles (or at least for the existing three). The background for this is that as 16:10 screens get more popular for PCs (mostly in Notebooks but I've just gotten my 23" 16:9 HDTV res TFT and it's awsome ;), when watching DVDs that are in 4:3 letterbox format (ugh), or extras in 4:3 letterbox format (that happens quite often), you'd want to quickly switch to the "zoom to widescreen" profile, and reset it (that part is already possible) as you go back to the main menu / insert another movie.

Another one: I think the fast forward/backward interface deserves some consideration. It makes a certain amount of sense the way it is now.. but most people would probably like their video to start fast backward if they press the backward button once. I think the slower than real-time forward/backward playback options would probably be best off being coupled with a secondary button like this: press pause, then pressing ff/fb would go into slow-mo forward/backward mode, and another press of the play button would get back to playing normally. In addition, while in ff/fb mode, pressing play would also go back to playing normally.

And I just can't seem to shut up. How about remembering the zoom settings (50%, 100%, 200%) as WMP does? After all MPC pretty much sticks to the WMP 6.4 way of doing things, and that's one thing I always found missing since I gave up on WMP.

[chros]

Originally posted by Doom9
And I just can't seem to shut up. How about remembering the zoom settings (50%, 100%, 200%) as WMP does? After all MPC pretty much sticks to the WMP 6.4 way of doing things, and that's one thing I always found missing since I gave up on WMP.

Go to: Options:
1) Player -> check Remember last window size
AND
2) Playback -> uncheck Auto-Zoom

Done ... :)

[esby]

Ok, I thinjk that sasami2K development is pretty dead now, although i was able to find a 804 build when the official (dead) site never talk of it...

I'm talking of s2k, because it still have some interresting features versus MPC...

...like the fact it is able to show or hide a seek bar in full screen, with just the mouse position to decide if it should be hidden or not...
...like the fact it provides interesting shortcuts to fast forward fast reverse from 5s to 30s... (arrow key, ctrl + arrow key)...
...like the fact you can directly exit it from full screen with the mouse via an additionnal 'exit' popup menu item... and that you can access all the control in full screen via a popup menu interface...
...like once you dropped the evil options crashing it sometimes (eg supersampling), options you usually never need, it works very well, even with the lack of updates since two years...

But back to MPC, `
since s2k has not been updated since, and since most of his advantages are mainly ergonomical, it would be great to add some of thoses features in in MPC...
...via an optional seekbar 'à la sasami2k',
...customizable keyshortcuts,
...customizable settings(eg: how many seconds you want to forward with 'short forward' and how many seconds with long forward,
...customizable popup menu... (including the exit button).

Of course, the main advantage here would be to reproduce what the user wants of his player, and not to force him to be limited by the settings offered by the actual MPC interface, which works fine, but could be without problem better...

esby

PS: the fact these features are not here does not removes the fact this player is great :)

[Doom9]

@chros: thanks :)

[quietbritishjim]

Originally posted by CiTay
Just uncheck "MPEG-1 Video Decoder" under Filters in the MPC options, and it will use the system's standard decoder. Yeah, but there are a few files this bulks on too. A few versions ago the one in MPC was much better than the system default, but it seems to have gone backwards.

[Zarxrax]

Originally posted by esby
...via an optional seekbar 'à la sasami2k',

Under options set "show controls in full screen for 0 seconds"

Originally posted by esby
...customizable keyshortcuts,

Under options, go to "keys" :D


There are a variety of fastforward and reverse shortcuts available already.

[zwahri]

Originally posted by esby

...customizable settings(eg: how many seconds you want to forward with 'short forward' and how many seconds with long forward,

PS: the fact these features are not here does not removes the fact this player is great :)
In addition to what Zarxrax said:
Under options, go to "Tweaks".

That makes 3 out of 4 requests already taken care of :)
OK, this one was only an example for "customizable settings", but it's there.

Regarding the "limited by the settings offered by the actual MPC interface, which works fine, but could be without problem better" part I 'd like to say that the MPC GUI is perfectly fine as it is because it's designed following the "KISS" principle - Keep It Simple, Stupid. And that's exactly what I and need, maybe it's even the reason why MPC has gotten as popular as it is now. Of course, there are always some bits that could be improved, but ATM the only things I want are some bugfixes and to thank Gabest for his awesome work ;)

SCNR,
Z

[uneasy]

If you want to know what our hero is working on now, check this link. :)

http://ngemu.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50783

[esby]

@ zarxrax & zwahri
Thanks for the tips,
or I must be blind sometimes,
or I just checked with a very old version (which i somewhat doubt myself, the first explanation being better to my eyes...)


That left the exit button, not very much, unless it can be showed by an option setting i did not see.

What i was meaning with customizable settings since they are already possible, is to be able to export them via a simple interface/system (xml?), something like a profile managment which would allow to switch/load different settings according to the user.
In such situation, you could consider a default 'classic' profile, maybe not overwritable, and some others, the one the user did himself, by just modifying the whole setting tab and saving it to a profile, or loading an xml file containing a particular profile.

esby

[mrchisholm]

Originally posted by Lobuz
@mrchisholm

Maybe it's just the way to speed up decoding? When CPU or screen resolution is not enough decoder is dropping some of the data.
On my AthlonXP 2400+ it takes 70%CPU to decode 1920x1080 clip. It shows 1920x544 or 960x544(diferent VMRs) res in MPC. With MPC's internal mpeg2 decoder it's much slower, but full resoultion.

Regards
Lobuz

:) My 3.0Ghz P4 + ATI 9700 AIW is enuff for HD, WinDVD5 codec use only 40% of CPU and it works like a charm, but when i installed windvd6 screenres is half! :mad:

[mrchisholm]

Originally posted by eb
I think that it is not foult of WinDVD6.
You can try to find decoder that is used to decode picture and try to change Aspect Ratio parameters,set for 16:9 or set there Letterbox.
For Mpeg.TS streams you can use also VLCplayer from VIDEOLAN

eb

I hate the interface of VLC, i'll just reinstall windvd5 :(

Tho VLC only take 20% of CPU-power when decodin a 1080i movie.

[zwahri]

Originally posted by esby
What i was meaning with customizable settings since they are already possible, is to be able to export them via a simple interface/system (xml?), something like a profile managment which would allow to switch/load different settings according to the user.

OK, This may sound stupid, but since MPC supports storing it's settings in an *.ini, how about a good ol' batch file?

I can already hear you laughing your ass off, but that's the way I'd solve such a problem. If you want I'll post a working script so that ppl can laugh about my bad scripting skills.

SCNR, really,
Z

PS: Yeah, I'm reeaaaally brain damaged - but since I'm around since DOS 6.0 that's easy to understand.

[esby]

@zwarhi:
in this case, consider the nice menu you are probably using,
considering they can be initialized via the ini file,
you don't need them anymore...
no?


It's not about going around problem,
it's just about enhancing the whole ergonomy.
And the usage...

esby

[zwahri]

Originally posted by esby
It's not about going around problem,
it's just about enhancing the whole ergonomy.
And the usage...

OK OK, It was just a suggestion. No need to take me serious ;)

[sterlina]

Originally posted by zwahri
PS: Yeah, I'm reeaaaally brain damaged - but since I'm around since DOS 6.0 that's easy to understand.
what a young boy!! :D
my first was DOS 5.0, but at school age I used to play with a friend on a 8086 cpu... don't know dos version, but the computer had two 5.25 floppy and no hard disk :cool:

*ster*

ps: new function...
how about a popup menu that is costumizable by a batch launch file? I think it is useful when storing more than a video on a cd/dvd

[esby]

ps: new function...
how about a popup menu that is costumizable by a batch launch file? I think it is useful when storing more than a video on a cd/dvd
that would be a good idea,
but it would be even cooler to reformat the user hdd just because he enabled this future option... :devil:, so no real need to add open vulnerabilities to it ^^.


PS:
the pc with two floppy was probably :
- an amstrad pc 1512 - shipped with dos 2.23 or 3.X running like a mad horse at 4.77 mHz and using a Color Graphic Adapter :)...
And as far I can remember it was a 8088.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Sorry but I have to ask. Will updates for MPC be ceasing altogether now?


Cheers

[Rat Killer]

I have WinDVD 4 installed and it plays DVD files fine.

Have MPC installed and it plays Xvid files with AC3 audio fine.

However when I attempt to play a dvd file from MPC it errors with:

The following pin(s) failed to find a connectable filter:
MPEG-2 Video Decoder::Output

Any suggestions on what I am missing and where to get it?

[Coroner]

It's the windvd mpeg 2 decoder. Only a few older versions of it will allow you to connect to it. Plain overlay mode might help - which kills off subtitles in MPC (SRT, SSA). PowerDVD has the same prob as does sonic filters. Use the built in mpeg2 decode (libavcodec) produces nice results on blend mode. Can pass ffdshow over it for sharpening/cleaning etc etc.

[Rat Killer]

OK, how do I get MPC to use its internal MPEG2 decoder? I have tried just about every variation on the settings I can think of.

Thanks,

James

[Coroner]

Here we go

View => Options => Filters => Tick MPEG-2 Video Decoder. I recommened you use all internal filters except MPEG-1 - it's a bit buggy.

The settings for it are in

View => Options => Filters => Mpeg Decoder => I recommend blend for deinterlace method.

Hope that helps.

[Rat Killer]

Thanks but I already have the internal MPEG-2 decoder selected. No go and gives the error message above. There is something else wrong. Is there another MPEG-2 / DVD decode filter I could download and install that MPC could use? I guess I could just use WinDVD for DVDs and MPC for AVIs but really wanted to use one program for both.

[Coroner]

That's strange. Have you checked the overrides to make sure the WinDVD decoder isn't selected?

It definitely sounds like that is what is happening as the internal decoder shouldn't give that error.

Have you right clicked while a movie is playing to see which filter is being used? Is the internal mpeg splitter being used?

Sorry, but I'm running short on ideas.

Are you using VMR7/9 or overlay etc Which mode?

[Rat Killer]

Nothing listed in the overrides list. On output it is set for overlay Mixer. I also tried System Default and Old Renderer and get the same error message. VRM7 and VRM9 are greyed out and not selectable. Am I missing a windows component?

Still funny that Xvid encoded AVIs play fine. Thanks for your help.

[Coroner]

Have you right clicked while a movie is playing to see which filter is being used?

Oops that was a rather silly thing of me to ask.

Ok, I've seen VMR9 not selectable before. It was DirectX9.0 not being installed. Try (re)installing DirectX9.0B. Strange VMR7 isn't showing.

May I ask your system setup?

What windows? Any service packs? What DirectX? What video card and what drivers? Any codec packs installed?

Might give me an idea of what else you could try.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Given that MPC 6.4 comes with its own Mpeg1, Mpeg2, AC3, DTS and AAC decoders etc, etc.

Is there any chance an basic Mpeg4 decoder could be added?

[Rat Killer]

I know DirectX 9 is not installed. Its a Windows 2000 install with the latest released service pack and MS updates. Video card is a Matrox G450 dual head driving 2 monitors at 1600x1200.

If you think it might help, will install DirectX 9 tonight and see it that solves it.

Thanks for your help,

[oddball]

It's time for my quarterly "When are you going to add 'last ratio used' on startup option?"

I hate having to switch ratio everytime I run MPC. It's the ONLY thing preventing me from switching from ZP to MPC.

Zoom Player has had that function for ages and ages.

I shall continue asking every few months.

[Rat Killer]

OK, I got MPC to play the Xvid avi files on my workstation. Turned out to be a limitation of the G450 card wrt video overlay not being available with a 3200x1280 video mode (dual monitors) Drop to single monitor and it plays fine.

New question,

My camera generates video files with a .MP4 extension. Trying to play them with MPC generates a missing codec message but will then go on to play without sound. I assume this means it is missing an AAC audio codec. Any ideas?

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Rat Killer
... My camera generates video files with a .MP4 extension. Trying to play them with MPC generates a missing codec message but will then go on to play without sound. I assume this means it is missing an AAC audio codec. Any ideas? Can you upload a sample of one of your problem encodes, so we can test it for you on our own systems?


Cheers

[Rat Killer]

OK, where can I upload a sample of my MP4 files to?

This is an olympus camera if it matters. The Apple Quick Time player that came with it will play the files fine but would like to use them other than that. Eventually to encode them to DVD.

Thanks