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Lobuz
8th May 2003, 04:51
I mean that:
divx plays xvid
but xvid doesn't play divx
It works with divx filter even with added Any type instead of xvid subtype. With changed fourcc its ok.
Maybe something in registry prevents xvid from playing divx?

Are there any chances to implement function to play that used files?

Regards
Lobuz

PkmoNk
8th May 2003, 06:12
gabest: please dont be sorry! you are trying to help and i appreciate it :D
but I can't seem to find iviaudio.ax. can you give me some "pointers" or maybe a link? Also, let me get things straight. those *.ax are filters for dvd/mpeg2, and because my audio isn't working for the mpeg2 in mpc is because it's not using the filters correctly?

what i dont understand is how come powerdvd can utilize these filters for "flawless" play but mpc has trouble. hehe this is interesting now. :)

arman68
8th May 2003, 09:38
Thanks Gabest: I downloaded the latest build and saw the new /minimized option. It works great! I am very impressed by your speed: do you ever sleep?

Yusaku
8th May 2003, 11:51
PkmoNk: Try installing WinDVD 4 - PowerDVD had compatibility problems with its DirectShow filters

^AnThraX^
8th May 2003, 12:23
@gabest: Thx a lot for the /shutdown, worx fine
(win2k sp3, winxp-pro, no-sp). But it also happened
what you mentioned, it cannout shut win down when
specific programs are still running. For me,
Winamp was the case. Winamp.exe was running, no shutdown.
Thats all. Every other thing, NortonAntiVirus, Flashget,
Trillian, and so on. Worked. Thanks a lot.

Hmm, think i understand the new filtermenu now :)

About PowerDVD: The really latest releases still have
the .ax files in the folder, so they could be used.

Oh, and i was wondering why dont you include a
history.txt or changelog or whatever in your .rar?
So everyone you see whats new in the last 5 versions
he missed, not just the forum-users... you know what i mean.

@Yusaku: I always had trouble installing PowerDVD 4.0.x
and WinDVD 4.5.x, somehow all the filters got fucked up.
In order to play ac3-files with mplayerc, i manually
had the unregister all pdvd/wdvd ac3-decoders in there
program-folders... anyways, maybe just on my system.

gabest
8th May 2003, 14:16
Lobuz: Sorry, I read the opposite what you wrote :) What a decoder registers as possible input type and what it really accepts are two different things. You can try extending the list of input types but the filter can still refuse to connect with it. I say contact the makers of xvid to add dx50 fourcc on their list, if they can process divx 5.0 of course.

PkmoNk: There is also one iviaudio.ax here at the downloads, Filter/Audiofilters.

^AnThraX^: The history is on the homepage, and I usually only put them down for the releases...

^AnThraX^
8th May 2003, 16:41
Hmm hmm hmm, ok, can live with that.
Btw, are YOU god?

Oh, and PkMonK is already provided ;)

epere4
8th May 2003, 19:26
@Gabest:
Last night I tested the /shutdown swich on my WinXP SP1.
It worked fine, but I didnīt test it with other special programs (like Winamp) running. I will do that tonight. I believe the program has to send some kind of kill signal to terminate all process running in order to work propertly. But I donīt know how that can be done...

I am working on an installer for the MPlayerC. Is there a way to call the player and make it open in the file associations optionīs page? I would like the installer finish opening the program in that page so the user can associate the files he wants.
Of course I will send you the script sources when I finish it.

CU

phrentec
8th May 2003, 23:21
i'm guessing your MPC installer will be up on betanews as well. yes, no?

epere4
9th May 2003, 01:57
Originally posted by phrentec
i'm guessing your MPC installer will be up on betanews as well. yes, no?
I donīt know. I will give it to Gabest and he will decide what to do with it.
I believe that if Gabest makes it public, someone will put it in betanews, but I donīt know how that works.

CU

epere4
11th May 2003, 03:39
Some days ago I posted this:
Originally posted by epere4
I noticed an option in the Player to store the settings in a ini file. I didnīt notice it before, but I donīt know if it is new.
The questions are thre:
1- If I leave this option on, then the player doesnīt write in the registry?
2- Does it first scan the folder where it is present to see if it finds this file and then scan the registry?
3- The ini file is equal in NT and in 9X version?

I make autorun CDs and use your player. But I wasnīt able to set some propertiers by default. So if the player first scan for the ini file, it would be great. And if the file can be the same for every windows version, I can generate one ini and use it in every computer (I mean, I donīt have to switch to Win98 just to make the apropiate ini file).
Gabest answered this:
Originally posted by gabest
epere4:
1. Not it's settings, only the file associations.
2. Yes.
3. Should be, but I have never compared them.

Well, today I made my first CD using the .ini file to store some settings and it didnīt work. The player refused to start and gave me this error message:
Micrososft Visual C++ Runtime Library
Runtime Error!
Program: D:\mplayerc.exe
The application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way. Please contact the applicationīs support team fore more information.

I tell you people this so you donīt lose a CD like I did :o
I believe that the error is produced because in the CD the file is read only and that doesnīt happen in the Hard Disk.

gabest
11th May 2003, 05:20
I didn't burn it on any cd yet. But I tried it with an ini file set to read-only and found that it falls back to the registry then. I can fix this easily, but no idea about the crash, it didn't do this here.

Opening the association page could be done. First send the wm_command message to show the options, but that will only show you the first page ... unless you set <MPC>\Settings\LastUsedPage in the registry to its id, which is 213. Set this after launching mpc.

epere4
11th May 2003, 07:29
Yes, I also tested setting the .ini file as read-only and it didnīt give me any errors (but I didnīt know it was reading the registry).
I will try it making a CD image and mounting it with D-Tools to see what happen. Iīll let you know.

I will see if I can implement your recomendations in the installer.
The biggest problem with the installer is the uninstaller. Almost everything else is already set, but I donīt know a way to deassociate the associeted files (and associate files back to the program they were associated before mplayerc). I donīt know how to delete all custom options set by each user, neither (MPC sets them in HKCU, but how do I have access to all the users from the current users?).

@Gabest: Do you want the install script to become public or you want to keep it for you? Because if I make it public maybe some other people can improve it, especially because I am not an expert in the NSIS scripts.

CU

gabest
11th May 2003, 07:57
Even if it sounds stange first I think restoring the assiciated file extensions is not a task for anybody or anything. There isn't any stack which saves them and can unwind. One program can come and modify it, then others again and again, at the end who should restore it and to what? I say everybody should keep in head what program he used to associate one extension and reassociate it again if he wants to change.

About deleting user settings. It is also not very necessary. The user will be pleased to see his old settings again if he decides to reinstall it later or if he just upgrades it to a newer version after removing the old first.

I'm not interested in NSIS scripts yet. There is nothing to install on mpc. Maybe it could copy itself to somewhere under Program Files, but then the user would have to look for it in explorer/start menu or have those extension associated already to be able launch it. But if he gets a rar, he will surely know where he extracted it :)

Emp3r0r
11th May 2003, 22:15
Gabest: I'm having those macrovision errors you experienced. I went through the whole thread trying to find information about it and you say a reboot will fix. You seem to have narrowed it down to nVidia's drivers. I have a RadeonVE and I am getting those errors. The crazy thing is they started happining after I installed newer nForce drivers. Why in the hell is these nForce drivers doing this even though it has nothing to do with video. nVidia needs to straightin up their act. Thats absurd. Anyway, can you tell me which dvd playback filters you prefer? Thanks.

gabest
12th May 2003, 00:38
This problem is not related to the decoders, at least in my case. The dvd navigator filter asks other filters (the video renderer usually) if they can scrambe with macrovision and if they respond they can but unfortunately not with this tvout chip, then the dvd navigator sends that "macrovisions error" message to the application and refuses to do anything. The annoying thing is that even if tvout is not enabled, it still does this.

Emp3r0r
12th May 2003, 20:16
I didn't mean to imply that this macrovision problem was related to the decoders. I see it has something to do with the drivers (and possibly the video renderer filter). I was asking about the dvd playback filters you prefer out of pure curiousity. Actually, I love my AC3filter combined with the nForce SPDIF output for the audio. Yet I'm still not sure what the best mpeg2 playback filter is for video. I'm trying to figure that out now ;) Thanks for MPC and especially for the Zoom capabilities using the Numpad. I love it!

Safai
14th May 2003, 05:33
@gabest: can you add some "smart detect" for the WinLIRC keys? much like BSPlayer where you can click on the box and press a remote button to assign them instead of typing in the name of the button...

btw, what's the default WinLIRC button name for volume up/down & mute? play/pause/stop/fullscreen works but not vol_up/vol_down/mute...

gabest
14th May 2003, 07:21
Safai: Well, detecting is a good idea, but mpc needs to be connected first, so it would only work after the address turned into green. The common verbs I don't know really, my tuner card has an on-board ir receiver what winlirc can't use.

Emp3r0r: Mainly, I'm using an older cyberlink for developement (I run mpc with the debugger even if I watch a movie :)), but only because I got used to it so much. Untill I was not able to beat the protection of those annoying "debugger-aware" decoders I could only use this for testing.

Talking about hacking, have I mentioned that the macrovision protection for 41.09+ detonators is history? :P

a3ternus
14th May 2003, 09:31
Gabest,couyld it be possible to have the basic controls coming on/off screen (when the mouse moves on the player's window)but in MINIMAL PRESET viewing mode ?!?
If you could implement this easily,it would make my WMP even better to use...
Thanx in advance...
A3TeRnuS

Safai
14th May 2003, 15:33
Hehe... I modified the WinLIRC source to work with my ATI Remote Wonder (USB/RF)... it is much more flexible now that I can assign different remote buttons with different actions right inside mpc :)

Yeah, auto detect would be nice... :D

I guess I'll have to hunt for the common verbs then... I looked at the lircd.conf for LIRC, some uses vol_up, some uses vol+, some uses vol_up_up, and some uses volumeup... sigh... :(

DaveEL
15th May 2003, 16:50
The play once setting is ignored if im using a playlist it works fine for single files but it just repeats if i have more then one file loaded.

DaveEL

Lobuz
15th May 2003, 17:33
Hi Gabest I have a small requests:

- Maximize player window but like in truecast player. I mean that only windows toolbar at bottom is visible and the rest hides like in full screen

- Option to load subtitles in right click menu ( from fullscreen )

- Fix disappearing subtitles when changing resolution. Cliking them again helps bring them back.

- Supporting CDBremse to only slow down drive when plaing a movie

- What about playing VP4,5,6 is it possible?

It's just something I thought would be useful. Thanks for your effort in bringing us the best player. :D

ps. What are your plans to make DSfilter for broken(corrupted)|unfinished(P2P) movie files? Or will it be only in MPC?;)

swalker
16th May 2003, 06:07
Hey Gabest, have you ever thought of combining the seek bar & controls into one toolbar? With the seek bar in between the buttons & audio controls, but i suppose there would have to be some video size checks that would have to be met so the seek bar wouldn't become unusable with smaller width video sizes.

Is there any way to keep the maximized state after mpc is closed? Currently, mpc returns to the restored state after a maximized window is closed.

jamest
16th May 2003, 17:05
I've hit a problem causing my winxp to either reset or blue screen when media files are play at slow rate. Anything less than 1x speed will trigger it.

Only media files that are not affected are mpeg files and avi files with no audio track. Wierd.

My config: MPC6442, WinXP, 512M, Amd duron 1.2, Radeon 7200, Onboard Cmedia 8738 audio.

Can anyone advice?

wiflye81
16th May 2003, 17:25
a simple one, upgrade to version 6.4.4.9 ( avaible in this thread )

gabest
16th May 2003, 19:05
I have less time to work on mpc these days, but trying to record suggestions in the "todo" file.

Other. Finally I found the switch to make the two attached monitors work as two separate desktops. Dunno why I didn't notice it before :rolleyes: Anyway, now that I could test mpc in true mutimonitor config, I noticed that fullscreen video mirroring also works with the VMR9 in renderless mode without using any overlay. I just don't know how to turn it off without manually disabling it through the display settings. Not a great prob though.

PkmoNk
17th May 2003, 06:01
I don't know about you, but I've been having problems recently concerning the tasktray icon... it just dissapears very often. unless i "un-systray" it and re-tray it again in options.
I notice this in recent versions, not sure which one. I'm using winxp :scared:

gabest
17th May 2003, 21:08
New version:
http://www.gabest.org/mpc2kxp64410.rar
http://www.gabest.org/mpc98me64410.rar

updates:
- yesterday I saw davanger posted a shoutcast source filter in the dev section, and asked myself why mpc doesn't have one too, so now it has :)
- avi keyframe finder got its thread
- nvidia macrovision issues solved
- dvd menu fixed with vmr9

I think that's all. As I said I didn't have much time last week... :'(

PkmoNk:
Isn't it just autohiding? :P I guess not, that would be too easy... After minimizing it in that state, is alt+tab the only way to make it show up again?

PkmoNk
17th May 2003, 21:20
Na, its not autohiding...there is no taskbar icon, so alt+tab can't reach it. and i dont see it in the systray so its not there too... all i can do is to kill the process and reopen mpc. or just open another mpc :(

Pasqui
18th May 2003, 21:30
Hi gabest,
I have a problem with latest ReClock version and MPC. Whenever I want to open an OGM (or a Matroska file) with 1 Vorbis audio stream and with Built-in Audio Switcher, the player stays in pause mode (no video nor sound playing). It is due to an interaction between Vorbis decoder - ReClock - Audio Switcher. An Ogg file with MP3 sound plays fine. Disabling either ReClock or Built-in Audio Switcher works also. Ogo is unable to reproduce the problem, so maybe you could have an idea...

WatchUer
18th May 2003, 21:46
mms://202.38.64.28/tv4

Try the above link, with the new version 6.4.4.10, only sound can be heard, switch to the 6.4.4.9, all(video and sound) is OK, the ini file is unchanged. Any clue?

gabest
19th May 2003, 07:42
WatchUer: I can't open this link now. The ip seems to be unreachable from here. Do you have a few more examples?

Pasqui: Yes, I also noticed this with reclock and ogm. No clue yet.

^AnThraX^
19th May 2003, 10:44
@gabest

Using 6.4.4.9 (under w2k-sp3 and xp).
Problem with the audio-switcher. (not using mmswitch, internal)

When having a playlist, with, lets say a divx5 dvd-rip of a dual-ac3 (only tested it with ac3) movie,
and it is a 2cd, i put them both in the
playlist so they play right behind each other (tricky aint it).
In older versions (around 6.4.4.2), he reminded the selected audio-track
(in this case, i have chosen track 2, and when he switched to the
next file in the playlist, he kept track 2).
With 6.4.4.9 it no more like that. Falls back to default Track 1.

Dont know if its a bug or you just wanted to make it like that.
Whatever, pls fix ;) or make a menu entry where users can change this behavior. Thanks a lot.

// Yes i know i am writing like someone who had just four
// cups of coffee in a row, and you know what? Thats because its true.

WatchUer
19th May 2003, 15:37
Originally posted by gabest
WatchUer: I can't open this link now. The ip seems to be unreachable from here. Do you have a few more examples?
Sorry, I hardly use the mms link, just saw someone else's post, and I tested the link, regenerated the problem.

PS: It's a video of HongKong's TV.

gabest
20th May 2003, 00:40
http://www.gabest.org/mpc2kxp64411.rar
http://www.gabest.org/mpc98me64411.rar

- fixed asf/wmv
- the shoutcast source filter was improved a bit: got a prebufferer (3 secs), extracts title info from the stream, connects to addresses with path (e.g. /stream/...) in the url

^AnThraX^: I can't remember if the switcher has ever stored anything about the last used track, it might have been a side effect of something :)

epere4
20th May 2003, 07:00
Originally posted by gabest

- avi keyframe finder got its thread

Thanks!!!

ookzDVD
20th May 2003, 08:40
@gabest,

nice to see new MPC's build everyday :)

your player is getting bigger and bigger :)

gabest
20th May 2003, 10:09
The shoutcast filter was done in one afternoon and I rushed its release a bit, it needed a second day to evolve to a usable level.

And yes, it is getting really fat now, but that is the price for OOP :D

chros
20th May 2003, 10:25
MPC 6.4.4.10:
The new avi keyframe detection is great !!! But if you try to seeking in an avi file to keyframes (SHIFT + ...) rigth after you opened it (within 2-4 secundum) the Playing Time on the taskbar shows the frame numbers, and it doesn't seeking anywhere.

And PLEASE implement the Shutdown switch in the right-click context menu !!! (If it would be a lot of work what I mentioned earlier, it's enough the "shutdown after this file") PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE :D

wiflye81
20th May 2003, 10:56
I have just test the new build ( 6.4.4.11 ), it's wonderfull, all my tests were done perfectly :
DivX : OK
XviD : OK
RM : OK
Mov : OK
Flash : OK
MKV : OK
WMV : OK
DVD : OK ( with good filters )
Streaming : OK

But there is a problem with OGM, it crash MPC ( error oggds.dll ) but works fine in mplayer2.

My config :
MSI KT4 Ultra + XP 2000+
512 Mo DDR
ATI AIW 9000 Pro
SB Live 5.1

I Have two request for the next build ( if possible ) :
-better SMIL support ( real interaction with the file )
-Micro DVD Player INI support ( to make DVD menu like )

THX for your great work.

gabest
20th May 2003, 11:10
Great, the ogm splitter doesn't like if I ask title, author and other info during the playback :rolleyes:

cca
20th May 2003, 13:37
During playback? I 'm not sure what do you mean, but OGM files play fine here with the latest MPC.

gabest
20th May 2003, 13:49
It worked this way before .11:
- construct the graph
- ask title/author/desc/... from filters which support the needed interface
- run graph

In .11 it changed like this:
- construct the graph
- ask title/author/desc/... from filters which support the needed interface
- run graph
- ask title/author/desc/... again peridically (chashes ogm splitter sometimes), just in case one of them has changed, for example it does when the shoutcast stream moves on the next queued mp3.

But it's not a huge problem, easy to fix.

wiflye81
20th May 2003, 13:58
I've just test OGM with the new build and it crash ( same error ).
But it works fine with : WMP9, mplayer2 and TCMP.
When it crash the video and sound continue to play if i don't click on "don't send ".

In "My config" I forget to mention my OS : Windows XP Media Center Edition ( Pro Sp1 :D )

epere4
20th May 2003, 18:02
Originally posted by chros
MPC 6.4.4.10:
The new avi keyframe detection is great !!! But if you try to seeking in an avi file to keyframes (SHIFT + ...) rigth after you opened it (within 2-4 secundum) the Playing Time on the taskbar shows the frame numbers, and it doesn't seeking anywhere.

I believe that is the result of the new implementation of keyfframe seach. You now have to wait a little bit after the file is opened to be able to use keyframe seek, but you can see the video normally. Before the change, those 2 to 4 sec you are refering to were spend before you could actually watch the video.

I think that is better to watch the video and wait to seek than wait the video.

CU

arman68
20th May 2003, 18:48
Great job in adding shoutcast support: now MPC is the "universal" internet radio player :)

There are a few refinements to command line switches that would make me very happy:

/fullscreen: IMHO this should start MPC in full screen mode straight away and not show the window until the movie is loaded and ready for playback; this looks kind of messy when integrated within a HTPC, and is the only reason why I am still using ZoomPlayer for video playback

/close: when used as the only parameter with no file to playback this should close the current instance of MPC; at the moment I need to kill the process

/minimized: I noticed that when MPC is already running (in minimized mode or not), this will make it switch to window mode. This should make MPC run in minimized mode on the first and subsequent calls


Other features I would love to see is a simple OSD interface a la mplayer when using fullscreen playback. I know this is departing a bit from the original M$ Media Player look and feel, but so is support for subtitles. If you make it optional it should keep everybody satisfied ;)

Sorry if I sound too demanding, but IMHO MPC is the best media player there is and I am just trying to give suggestions to make the best even better :D

KRacie
20th May 2003, 19:08
hi ,gabest

thx 4 ur best program 1st..:D

but when i using the new rls after 6.4.4.3 to play DVD

it's a problem: the aspect ratio dos not working well..:rolleyes:

the aspect ratio is always lager..


My system:
Geforce 4 Mx 420 .. Driver version is : 6.13.10.3087
Win2k adv svr
Directx 9.0a

gabest
20th May 2003, 19:23
/fullscreen: IMHO this should start MPC in full screen mode straight away and not show the window until the movie is loaded and ready for playback ...Then there would be no feedback about opening errors if it started in fullscreen where the status bar is usually hidden. The user would just sit there for seconds and wait for the main title to show up out of the darkness./close: when used as the only parameter with no file to playback this should close the current instance of MPC; at the moment I need to kill the process Do you mean the already running process should close itself, or the one you launched with /close newly? With no file parameter it starts a new player even if "multiple instance" is not enabled (was requested by someone in the past), so if we want obey that rule "mplayerc.exe /close" could only close itself, which is really unreal, I don't think anyone would ever execute a command like that./minimized: ...Hm, a bug there :)

OSD won't happen soon, it looks impossible to implement considering the number of different video renderers.

gabest
20th May 2003, 19:25
Originally posted by KRacie
the aspect ratio is always lager..How do you mean it is "larger"?