New release of Media Player 6.4

[celtic_druid]

Just tried an mkv with two textsub streams and it plays fine here.
Win2k SP4, DX9.0c, AMD 64 3500+.

[ernstblaauw]

Using the latest version of the CVS compiles (2004.12.17), I cannot drag a 'VIDEO_TS' folder into MPC. It does not show video or play audio. It does not matter if I activate the internal MPEG2 decoder or not.
If I drag the separate files which are inside the VIDEO_TS folder into MPC, it plays fine.
I did not have this problem with 6.4.8.2.

edit:
I also do not have this problem with the 2004.12.09 build

[rotflol]

Hey, celtic_druid, I've noticed that the last compile of MPC (4460 KB) is much bigger than the previous one (3860 KB). What gives?

[V_ICE]

I think the increased size is due to the addition of DX9 shader filters in the play menu.

[Leak]

Originally posted by V_ICE
I think the increased size is due to the addition of DX9 shader filters in the play menu.

:eek:

Now that you mention it - that really was out of the blue... :D

[iron2000]

I find the MPC takes a few seconds to really close after I click the close button.

[nicco]

Is there here someone who is planning to make MPC full compatible with the new .divx format?

[gino25]

i have a simply question

Is (media player classic' s) lastest version 6.4.8.2 ?


Is development stopped? Because version 6.4.8.2 (maybe the last) was out in march 2004

[Yong]

Originally posted by nicco
Is there here someone who is planning to make MPC full compatible with the new .divx format?
.divx?
I think it's a AVI container(.avi),
It should be safe renamed to *.avi.:p

[Yong]

Originally posted by gino25
i have a simply question

Is (media player classic' s) lastest version 6.4.8.2 ?


Is development stopped? Because version 6.4.8.2 (maybe the last) was out in march 2004

Latest version at here (http://www.aziendeassociate.it/cd.asp?dir=/Media%20Player%20Classic);)

[nicco]

divx?
I think it's a AVI container(.avi),
It should be safe renamed to *.avi.
not exact:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88988

[Liisachan]

Originally posted by Yong
.divx?
I think it's a AVI container(.avi),
It should be safe renamed to *.avi.:p You can read about DivX Media Format here.
http://labs.divx.com/archives/000050.html

[Sgt_Strider]

What's new in the latest release of MPC?

[LigH]

Originally posted by Sgt_Strider
What's new in the latest release of MPC?
"Read the last dozen pages..." :D

Sorry - just a stupid joke; missing a complete changelog, too. You probably would have to scan the CVS.

[Liisachan]

some of the most noticeable new features in 6.4.8.3 include:
- Better support for VBR MP3 Audio
- MKV muxed with mkvmerge 0.9.5 is now seekable
- online subtitle database, which is somewhat like CDDB/FreeDB
- fancy sahders
- Dirac support (but the external filter is better atm)

As another note, i think this thread is obviously too long, now with 99 pages...

[cweb]

I was looking for the latest version of mpc and I found it at this mirror site:
http://m17n.cool.ne.jp/freeware/mpc/

[Liisachan]

@cweb
Altho this thread is very long and something has to be done about it, you can at least read back a few pages of this thread before you begin bothering to try to "look for" the latest version. A few links include that one are posted already. They are the same binaries compiled by celtic_druid. What you should really find is, kudos to him/her for doing that.

[gruppo_sd]

with the last mplayerc2005.01.31 for xp I have a problem to play wmv file, the player it's very slow.

[celtic_druid]

Just tried it here and everything seemed fine. Win2k SP4 though. So previous versions the playback was ok?

[Esc]

Don't know where to address. It would be really nice if MPC could make snapshots not only to bmp file but also to the clipboard (like VDub). Please?
I hope, the right guy will find it here. :rolleyes:

[gurabli]

I have two questions, please help me if you can:

I downloaded MPC 6.4.8.2. It won't play some xvid files, saying
"Cannot render stream(s)" How to set the codec to be able to play xvid/divx files using ffdshow or other filter?

And where can I get the newer builds in setup form?

Thanx!

[celtic_druid]

You want an installer? It is just a single exe, I can't really see the point.

If ffdshow is installed and enabled for XviD then it should just work (in the absence of any other filter) with MPC for avi's, ogm's and mkv's.

[Liisachan]

@celctic_druid: A quick question: why didn't you compile non-unicode version for 2005-02-02?

[celtic_druid]

Up now.

[Liisachan]

Can anyone reproduce this problem?

(1) Use MPC 2005-01-31
1-A. Disable some of the internal filters, for instance the source filter "AVI" and the Transform filter "AAC" by unchecking the 2 checkboxes.
1-B. Restart MPC.
1-C. Look at the internal filter settings--AVI and AAC should be disabled (unchecked), naturally, because you disabled them manually.

(2) Use MPC 2005-02-02 or 2005-02-03
2-A. Do the same as 1-A.
2-B. Restart MPC.
2-C. Look at the current settings--the settings customized in 2-A is gone, and you'll see the default settings in the filter menu. i.e. "AVI" and "AAC" are re-checked automatically tho you unchecked them manually.

Anyone can confirm this? Or is it just for me :confused:

I found this problem when I was trying to test Haali's filter with MPC.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=606057#post606057

The registry is updated correctly both after 1-A and 2-A, when you close MPC. But looks like a newer build mentioned in (2) cannot load the filter settings from the registry properly even tho it saved the settings by itself.

@celtic_druid: Thx :) There are still a few Win98/me users. Honestly, that's not my problem tho :devil:

[celtic_druid]

Ah, but this time there was a reason for no ANSI build. The DSM lib release version would not compile.

Yes, I can reproduce that problem.

edit: Big CVS update, looks like hopefully both problems are fixed. Binaries will be up soon.

Ok, still the same problem with the filters. ANSI build up though I had to manually create a project file for basemuxer to get MPC to compile for both release and unicode builds.

[fewtch]

It's really a pleasure to see MPC is being updated (still)... something about a single-EXE, amazingly nonbloated for the functionality, "does everything yet still does it well" -- this is a unique player, IMHO in many ways nothing quite matches it. I mean, it can replace commercial DVD player softwares without losing much functionality.

I hope this continues to be updated. Thanks out to gabest and celtic druid.

[ernstblaauw]

Downloading the latest version of the MPC 6.4.8.3 CVS at
http://m17n.cool.ne.jp/freeware/mpc/, i read that the latest versions do not remember the filtersettings. But in my case, it does!
I have downloaded mplayerc2005.02.05.2kxp.7zand I use Windows XP SP2. Maybe does it make a difference if the settings are stored in an .ini file? I have enabled that option.

[gurabli]

A stupid question:

the extension of the mpc file is .7z ? What should I do with it? I mean how to get the exe?

[Yod4z]

Originally posted by gurabli
A stupid question:

the extension of the mpc file is .7z ? What should I do with it? I mean how to get the exe?
.7z file is just an compressed file, it compressed with 7zip format. Use the 7zip decompressor.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/sevenzip/

[Leak]

Originally posted by gurabli
A stupid question:

the extension of the mpc file is .7z ? What should I do with it? I mean how to get the exe?

Use 7-Zip (http://www.7-zip.org/), TUGZip (http://www.tugzip.com/) or WinRAR (http://www.rarsoft.com/) to extract it.

[Black Evil]

There are many other alternatives as well, such as my personal favorite, IZArc (http://www.izsoft.dir.bg/izarc.htm)

[FredThompson]

6.4.8.3 crashes when exiting "hard" using the close window button. This happens every time with DTiVo-sourced MPEG2. Anyone else seeing this type of thing?

[Liisachan]

celtic_druid:
mplayerc.exe [CRC 0567DA25] in mplayerc2005.02.11.2kxp.7z is obviously too small, compared to previous versions: 4,091,904 bytes, while the previous versions are around 4,500,000.
And it doesn't start complaining:
"The dynamic link library d3dx9_24.dll could not be found..."


Edit:
dxsdk_feb2005.exe has it:
http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA022257/misc/d3dx9_24.zip

[celtic_druid]

Well I did just switch to dxsdk Feb2005.

[ernstblaauw]

Originally posted by Liisachan
celtic_druid:
mplayerc.exe [CRC 0567DA25] in mplayerc2005.02.11.2kxp.7z is obviously too small, compared to previous versions: 4,091,904 bytes, while the previous versions are around 4,500,000.
And it doesn't start complaining:
"The dynamic link library d3dx9_24.dll could not be found..."


Edit:
dxsdk_feb2005.exe has it:
http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA022257/misc/d3dx9_24.zip
It's logical the latest version is smaller, because is has not the d3dx9_24.dll inside.
Placing that .dll in the same map als MPC 2005.02.11 makes MPC working like a charm!

[Liisachan]

Originally posted by ernstblaauw
It's logical the latest version is smaller, because is has not the d3dx9_24.dll inside. Yes and no. The fact that the functions in that DLL were not linked statically, is not by design. What happened was rather accidental. It's naturally smaller because some functions that were supposed to be linked statically were not linked statically (and thus should be loaded from the external DLL).

Anyway, what is important is, it's not like Gabest changed MPC so you'd need an external DLL. Like you said, it runs if you put that DLL there, but that is not what it was supposed to be.

Edit: Oh, wait, but that DLL might be in the newer DirectX 9 runtime too. If so, Gabest wants us to update DirectX, and that DLL is supposed to be linked dynamically.

[celtic_druid]

Well d3dx9.lib from the feb dxsdk is only 83.3kb where as an older version that I have is 4.17MB's. The one from 2004 is over 5MB's.

Ok relinking with an older lib gives 4,611,584bytes.
4,091,904bytes with the feb sdk.

Ok, so the project file had /DELAYLOAD for d3d9.dll. I added d3dx9_24.dll and it is no longer a dependancy.

[Liisachan]

so far so good, basically it seems working. and smaller size is a nice side-effect :)

But, I keep getting this annoying small MessageBox everytime I start MPC, which says "dsfsf"
Anyone knows what this means?:confused: :confused:

[celtic_druid]

From the source code looks like it is to do with registry settings and the internal filters.
mplayerc.cpp if you want to look at it.

[Liisachan]

Originally posted by celtic_druid
Ok, still the same problem with the filters. I can still reproduce this pb too on my Win2K SP4. This doesn't happen on my WinXP SP1 (not SP2). That weird MessageBox only pops up when Im using 2k.
One thing that comes in my mind is "Windows 2000 is no longer a supported platform for the SDK." (readme for DirectX 9.0 SDK (Feb 2005))

So Windows 2000 is obsolete? bakattsura...:angry:

[celtic_druid]

Yeah I heard that about the SDK, however I installed the SDK fine under win2k and compiled fine under win2k.

Don't think that DirectX and registry issues are related. I had the popup to. Deleting the registry keys fixed it, however you are right the problem is still present.

[Rash]

Celtic, where could I get your compiles of MPC? Thanks a lot.

[esby]

google might be your friend...

http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&q=celticDruid&btnG=Recherche+Google&meta=

esby

[Rash]

Thank you

[Tomir]

Ok, I found a two bugs in MPC. First the subs positioning, alas better than that in original MPC, is somewhat buggy. Here you can see what I mean. In window mode subs are positioned correctly as usually (window (http://www.goos.republika.pl/images/el2.jpg)), and here is the full-screen version (full screen (http://www.goos.republika.pl/images/el.jpg)). As you can see text on the signs is moved too high. Here is a another example, window (http://www.goos.republika.pl/images/git2.jpg), and full-screen (http://www.goos.republika.pl/images/git.jpg). The second problem is that the MPC still cannot change (or rather accept) streams when using Haali's MKV splitter.

[Liisachan]

Tomir: The first problem is a real problem for many subbers, especially when softsubbing something that has the aspect ratio that is largely different than the aspect ratio of the monitor, but this is not a bug: afaik MPC's sub renderer is designed like this.

Let me explain the nature of the problem:
1. Simply put, the upper-left corner is (0, 0).
2. The problem is, where is the upper-left corner?
Here you can see a more decisive demo:
http://park14.wakwak.com/~flower/test.html

As you can see, VSFilter (aka Direct Vobsub) uses the video-frame's pixel-size to decide the coordinates, while MPC uses the window size. The both coordinates are possible because SSA's spec is ambiguous.

Workaround: I'd recommend softsubbers to mux 2 SSAs for each language, one is for VSFilter, the other is for MPC.

Another Note: USF has a spec to clear up this ambiguity:
http://usf.corecodec.org/
"Powerfull element positioning system ... Relative to window or video"
In USF, each <style> has a child called <position> where you can define the "relative-to" attribute (the value is "Window" or "Video")

[Tomir]

All right, I agree that in MPC 6.4.8.2 the coordinates are taken from the window. But, in the new version 6.4.8.3 compiled by celtic_druid there is a feature called "Position subtitles relative to the video frame" which seems to have correctly scale the subs and position them, but there are some problems, as shown on the screens I provided b4.

[Liisachan]

Ah, that new feature is cool :) I didn't notice it. This is exactly what I've been wanting. I guess Gabest has special ears that can hear very well............

Okay, so perhaps some of the positioning-related tags in SSA (\pos \move \fscx etc) are related to your problem. If you give me the sample, i'll test it to see if I can reproduce your pb.

I guess you mean Vobsub-compatible (vsfilter.dll & textsub.vdf) when you say "correctly scale," and that should be possible because Gabest is the author of both MPC and Vobsub after all, but there are quite a few delicate problems here (for instance, "Touch window from Inside" vs "Outside"). Plus, you cannot say what is "correct" because SSA specs don't define the coordinates to use. There are (or there will be) other SSA renderes, including VLC, RL, ffdshow. So generally, you have no way to absolutely pinpoint a certain pixel.

As I posted in corecodec (http://corecodec.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=914&start=15)
there are 2 kinds of subs: one should fit to the screen (like Dialogues); the other should be "pinned" to a certain pixel (like Logos). Not just relatively-to-what? ...Think about pan-and-scanning.
I'm feeling that we are facing the limit of SSA. Hopefully Gabest will extend his "Advanced SSA" specs.

Edit:
Tomir: you are right. This new option seems unstable. Sometimes it works, sometimes doesn't. To me, cheking/uncheking "Round up to power of two" several times might fix the problem. (?)

[HarryM]

In newest alpha versions of MPC 6.4.8.3 is error. External (not muxed!) subtitles (SUB, SRT, etc) running with MKV or OGM files are not corectly synchronized. :scared:

Version 6.4.8.2 synchronize external subtitles corectly.