New release of Media Player 6.4

[uneasy]

Hello, Gabest! I have two feature requests:
1. Auto-hide playlist bar in fullscreen mode (like in WMP), coz right now I have to always toggle playlist when swithing from fullscreen to window mode.
2. Smoother fast forward for DVD (instead of current slideshow, also I have a feeling the player is less responsive during fast forward).


Thanx in advance!

[Roger]

I must agree with darkthrone - I was never able to get this function work. Last try was with a4e Alien9 ogm, external splitter (usual DS 0.9.9.5).
MPC is set correctly (or I hope so). Splitter properties display both languages. But no matter what I do, it always plays with English as default (and that is, if you've heard the dub, real disaster :( ).
Pleeease, Gabest, is it possible to do something with this? :) Thanks...
If you have some questions about settings, codecs or whatever (btw - WXP SP1 CZ), just ask.

[demonmagnet]

I installed media player classic 6473. When i was playing a divx video i pressed the rewind button and the computer rebooted. Thinking it was a "fluke" i did it again but this time it blue screened with "Driver_irql_not_less_or_equal". 0x000000D1 (0X00000000, 0X00000008, 0X00000000, 0X00000000)

The video i tried playing was encoded using divx 5.1 and had abr mp3 audio.

Here is the small memory dump that was performed on crash if it is of any use to you http://users.froggy.com.au/annand/mpc6473crash.dmp

Windows XP SP1 (+ all updates)
3.13 Nforce drivers
53.03 forceware drivers

My computer has never experienced any crash problems before.

Can someone else try replicate the problem on their computer by playing a divx then pressing rewind. (if it helps any i pressed rewind nearly staright away after it started playing.

[MLS]

I'd also like to make a small feature request and also express my thanks for such a nice program.

I think it would be nice to be able to add a directory to the playlist and have it add all video files recursively, instead of having to add each one by one. nVidia NVDVD is the only program I know of that does this.

Thanks again,

/MLS

[celtic_druid]

@MLS, if you select open, then browse to the directory and don't select any files it will add all files in the directory to the playlist. There is a post somewhere around here (probably in this thread) mentioning the fact.

[MLS]

It apparently only checks one directory down though. I want it to add recursively.

/MLS

[HarryM]

@Gabest: How can I override filters, that are installed in OS?

On my service notebook are installed any old filters (xvid.ax, divxdec.ax, etc.). I haven't admin (root) rights actually. That is why, I can't install the newest filters properly.

I test MPC for overriding old filters and temporal-installing any newest filters via MPC's commandline.
But (like it or not) MPC still prefer old filters(!), that are installed in Win2k. :mad: I cant override older filters with newer filters.

How can I this resolve, please??? :p

[Seppe]

Could it be possible to give the playlist one more option.
Now it is impossible to add a file to the playlist from the playlist itself. I have only managed to solve this by using the command line paramater /add.

This small option would make the player even better.

[oddball]

That thing about saving the aspect ratio on close is the one thing preventing me from changing to MPC over ZP at the moment. Looking forward to checking next version ;)

[Booji Boy]

I don't know if this issue has been discussed before, but I cannot select the audio track when playing a DVD.

Ah, and btw, how can I stop mpc from pausing the movie when I do a mouse click on the screen?

[Booji Boy]

Originally posted by Booji Boy
Ah, and btw, how can I stop mpc from pausing the movie when I do a mouse click on the screen?

Ok, that's disabled when mpc is in DVD playback mode... but worse than not being able to use the menu, is that mpc:

1. gets stuck in the DVD (!) menu where you can usually select the audio track ;). Usually there are options like "start the movie", "go back to main menu" or "resume movie playback". None of them works, and you have to restart the DVD ("File -> Open DVD")

2. the mpeg-2 decoder has problems with some DVD vobs... when changing a vob at playback, e.g. when changing from the intro (telling the viewer stuff like that the film isn't suitable for minoes etc - the Disclaimer) to the main menu, or some of the bonus material/films of some DVDs are displayed with heavy mpeg visual errors. But I don't know if mpc uses a system mpeg2 decoder or its own, so it could be a problem that only I have on my system due to crappy mpeg decoders...

3. general video playback error: I've experienced massive problems when using the seekbar to change the playback position... with some videos seekbar is unusable so I have to switch back to WMP9!! :D muahaha!

[iwod]

is it at all possible for MPC to play everything..........

I try to play online radio station with .smi ( Real type file i think ) and a .asx ( windows media file ) and none of them work...

[gabest]

iwod: Links please :)

Booji Boy: The dvd navigator has some problems and it responds a bit slowly to user actions, that's what dshow has currently for dvds. The internal mpeg2 decoder may not work as perfect as those made by professionals working in full time having all the needed specs, but its free at least... Audo, subtitles, angles are also selectable from the "navigate" menu. The left mouse pauses playback because it is assigned to the play/pause command in the options, but as you noticed it gets overriden sometimes when needed.

HarryM: First, add all filters you don't want to load and block them. Then load the externals and set them to prefer.

MLS: When you pass a directory as the file name (command line, dragndrop, playlist) the default behavior is to not load it recursively, otherwise you couldn't override it. To make it work every way I need to add command switches, checkboxes, secret key combos... It may happen some day, but not my top priority right now.

demonmagnet: You are not alone, but I believe this has something to do with the changed sampling frequency and the audio drivers. dshow itself couldn't crash the OS this hard, it just uses directsound (or the older api with waveout) which should be idiotproof. What the OS and the driver layer does behind dsound's interfaces is completly hidden, if it crashes because of an argument list it cannot handle then it's a bug in the driver. Anyone else using a similar nvidia mobo?

[Pasqui]

@gabest
With MPC 6.4.7.4, playback of Quicktime files is broken whatever output method I choose: Overlay, VMR7 or VMR9. Only the left quarter of the video is displayed.
Thanks for your great work,

Pasqui.

[gabest]

Doh, right.

[reardon]

I see the informational dialog box in Options/Keys, but I cannot figure out how to change any of the mappings. Is this possible?

-Reardon

[oddball]

Still no save pan & scan settings on exit in latest. Maybe in the next build?

[Yusaku]

Bug:
mpc6.4.7.3 (cannot test newest now, will do in the evening... but I guess it'll be the same), using default integrated mkv splitter
matroska file split to two (or more) pieces using newest mkvmerge that contains chapters:

If I choose to "link" the files (default and preferable), the second file internally starts from some advance time (e.g. 55mins), but mpc transforms it back to play from 0. Unfortunately this doesn't happen with chapters, which are pointing somewhere FAAAR beyond the file end in the second+ part (e.g. 55mins more then they should be).

[gabest]

reardon: click the cells and they will change into combo or edit boxes.

oddball: Maybe :)

Yusaku: Yes, that can be a problem with linked files.

[reardon]

>reardon: click the cells and they will change into combo or edit boxes.
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Doh. Sorry. Should have figured that out myself. Thanks. Actually, a pretty nice UI.

-Reardon

[Tuning]

Thanks Gabest for including ac3 decoder and DTS Pass through. Now we don't even need ac3filter.

Is it possible to add dts parser filter to use with windvd and decode in anologe mode?

PS: I don't have SPDIF card to use digital facility.
Long live MPC!:)

Edit: it was already there!:stupid:, Sorry for wasting your time gabest. Thanks for all in one mediaplayer.

[demonmagnet]

Originally posted by gabest

demonmagnet: You are not alone, but I believe this has something to do with the changed sampling frequency and the audio drivers. dshow itself couldn't crash the OS this hard, it just uses directsound (or the older api with waveout) which should be idiotproof. What the OS and the driver layer does behind dsound's interfaces is completly hidden, if it crashes because of an argument list it cannot handle then it's a bug in the driver. Anyone else using a similar nvidia mobo?

Doh.So if it is something to do with the audio driver. Would going into "View>options>playback>output" and changing the audio device from system default to something else maybe fix this problem?

more info:
motherboard - Epox 8rda3+
sound(onboard) - Cmedia AC97 (audio codec: CMI9739A) with driver version 5.12.1.39
audio controller: Nvidia MCP2/MCPT Audio controller
directx version 9.0b

If you need any more info just ask.

[oddball]

Gabest MPC gives me a problem playing back dual audio. Both audio channels playback at the same time using ReClock 70b. Zoom Player just plays the 1st channel correctly. I get 2 instances of ReClock in the system tray when using MPC.

[gabest]

oddball: is the audio switcher on?

demonmagnet: Don't know if switching to waveout (or reclock just mentioned by oddball) would help. Try to not touch those buttons that's the safest :)

[oddball]

Yes the audio switcher option is on. Also tried disabling it and tried different audio output (system default, wave out, directsound, ReClock). None of them made any difference. It's a Matroska container with 2 audio streams BTW.

[opsis81]

My problem has to do with RealMediaSplitter.MPC includes built-in versions of RealMediaSplitter,RealVideo Decoder and RealAudio Decoder,so I don't think my post is off topic.
I'm trying to mux a very old rm file (with RV10 FourCC) into mkv with mkvtoolnix.Although the program lets me mux it I can't find a way to decode it properly.I've tried ffdshow by enabling its RV10 decoding feature,but the decoding was awful.Then I tried RealVideo Decoder(although I knew that the decoder doesn't have RV10 support)
and obviously it didn't play it.
Gabest are you going to release a new version of RealMediaSplitter, or the development of this filter is stopped?
Any answer will be welcomed!I can live without RV10 support:D
Many thanks for your great media player!

[Rash]

I only have one question. That LFE box on Audio Decoder means that MPC will send the LFE channel separated from the other channels (like in a true 5.1 speaker solution) or that MPC will mix the LFE information on the speaker channels? I mean, which of these two options will be true if I mark this box? (I hope I was clear enough ;))

Thanks Gabest for the program. It more than perfect now. :)

[calinb]

Originally posted by oddball
Gabest MPC gives me a problem playing back dual audio. oddball - I may have had a similar problem with a triple audio AC3 >> mkv video I made. I don't use reclock, but I found that intervideo decoder didn't work. Had to use AC3filter. Gotta go try that file on Gabest's new internal filter :)......

Originally posted by Tuning
Is it possible to add dts parser filter to use with windvd and decode in anologe mode? Tuning - can't you use AVI <-> AC3/DTS Filter? (Thanks again, Gabest :))That's what I use (no SPDIF >> external hardware decoder).
http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli/

[Tuning]

Originally posted by calinb
Tuning - can't you use AVI <-> AC3/DTS Filter? (Thanks again, Gabest :))That's what I use (no SPDIF >> external hardware decoder).
http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli/

Calinb, thanks again.

I remember, you were helping me to use this filter a while ago in the specific thread created by me. But even now I could not accomplish playing a dts muxed avi file with all the filters/application required. I even bought a new version of windvd platinum and power pack to check it once again. Still no luck. As i already mentioned in that thread I'm using sblive 4.1 value card, with analoge speakers. Every method for using this filter is not working on my system.

So as a last resort I was looking for MPC and dts support without digital facility. Thanks. :)

[Subwars]

hey peps just wanting a little help with using mpc i just downloaded it hoping that it will play my .rm files not a big fan of rm but some files are just that way and i'd rather use something better like mpc then have real player installed

now i got the mpc's main exe and allso downloaded the guliverkli_20031221 file that i was lead to believe has all the codecs i spose to play all different files but from here i'm not sure how to get it to work

any help is appreciated

Thanks

[opsis81]

All rm files will use realmedia engine.They won't use realmediasplitter or any other directshow filter.So you only need only realvideo codecs for playback of realvideo files.
Realmediasplitter is needed for playback of realvideo and realaudio
inside other containers that use directshow,such as matroska.You will
also need realvideo codecs!RealVideo Decoder and RealAudio Decoder
are nothing more than a bridge between directshow and realvideo codecs!

[Subwars]

ok that just made my head hurt even more then it is

what exactly do i need to get then and where from

[Dropbear]

I'm having no luck at all trying to get the DTS or the AC3 passthrough to work. Can someone please explain in idiot terms how to do this? I'm using the latest .4 release and have made sure the check box is checked for AC3/DTS options in the Options Menu under Filters.

[opsis81]

Just download RealAlternative.It includes everything you need.You can find the link in http://www.dvdrhelp.com/tools?tool=317#comments

[Dropbear]

I take it that wasn't addressed to me?

[gabest]

oddball: I'm going to find out why reclock loads more than once.

opsis81: Up till now noone has figured out how to use the exported functions of the rv10 decoder, ffdshow is the only way currently. (you can make mpc use the rm splitter for *.rm files too (in this mode it is even a bit better :P) at options/formats, but I hate repeating myself :)).

Rash: LFE means it will also be decoded and included in the downmixing, or sent to the LFE speaker when you select 3 front + 2 rear (nothing to downmix then). Ac3filter list every variation with LFE in its combo box doubling the selection, I choose to create a checkbox instead, there is no more difference.

calinb: Though I haven't tested yet, but the internal ac3 decoder should have lower cpu usage with more streams because it stops processing the incoming samples when the audio switcher returns an error code for the inactive. This was one of my major problems with ac3filter.

Dropbear: Is spdif working with other decoders for you? When the internal is enabled, what can you see if you check the statistics of the audio renderer (menu/play/filters/<audio renderer's name>), is anything changing there?

Tuning: Did you also test pure demuxed dts files (demuxed with dvd2avi for example) with mpc and the intervideo decoder?

[Dropbear]

Dropbear: Is spdif working with other decoders for you? When the internal is enabled, what can you see if you check the statistics of the audio renderer (menu/play/filters/<audio renderer's name> ), is anything changing there?


SPDIF has been working with AC3 tracks with AC3Filter.

I am using an AOPEN AW850 Deluxe and am a bit confused about the SPDIF function. I'll try and find out the statistics of the Audio Renderer and let you know.

I'm also a bit confused. Will this new version of MPC allow me to passthrough DTS and AC3 to my receiver?

[gabest]

Yes, it should pass through both ac3 and dts. One more question, there on that ppage I recommended to check, is the format (top most number) 148?

[Dropbear]

gabest, will check tomorrow..it's late night here in Australia :)

Thanks for your assistance. I'm not sure it's not the stupid sound card at the moment but I will check all possibilities. Thanks again!.

[brute]

here, too!

SPDIF function when enabled doesn't pass through any signal. So SP-DIF doesn't work either...


WRONG ALERT, SP-DIF FUNCTION WORKS GREAT (had put the wires the wrong way, sry)

[Wedgedkc]

the new version works great for me as well with spdif. i have tried both ac3/dts movies. i have only run into one movie where i only get static. should i rip a part of it and post it here?

cheers,
Wedge

[mikeX]

hi, can anyone tell me which runtime dlls mpc uses (either on win9x or winnt5)?

i'm having trouble running mpc on linux with wine and i thought i'd try using some win dlls
(wine's crash reports on ddraw.dll)

thanx & sorry if the answer is on this thread allready but it's kind of a HUGE thread (search results are a mess too)

[gabest]

KERNEL32.DLL
ADVAPI32.DLL
COMCTL32.DLL
COMDLG32.DLL
DDRAW.DLL
DSOUND.DLL
GDI32.DLL
OLE32.DLL
OLEAUT32.DLL
OLEDLG.DLL
SHELL32.DLL
SHLWAPI.DLL
USER32.DLL
WININET.DLL
WINMM.DLL
WINSPOOL.DRV
WS2_32.DLL

[Siku]

I'm having weird crashes with MPC 6.4.7.4. No matter which AVI file I open it will crash. It opens the video normally but when it should start playing the video file, it freezes. Then no matter what I try to do it'll crash. MPC 6.4.7.3 works great for me. I'm using Windows XP.

Regards,
Siku

[Liisachan]

mikeX: fyi, most probably mpc doesnt run on Win98 without DirectX 9

[calinb]

Originally posted by Tuning
I remember, you were helping me to use this filter a while ago in the specific thread created by me...<snip>...I'm using sblive 4.1 value card, with analoge speakers. Every method for using this filter is not working on my system.Oh yeah, I remember now. Like Gabest asked, have you tried a demuxed .dts file? Not a dts- wav, right?

WinDVD Plat + Powerpack should do the trick--that's what I use. I think I mentioned before that I use KX drivers with my Soundblaster for 5.1 playback, but that shouldn't matter. I've played dts on my 2.0 systems too (downmixed.) If WinDVD installed properly I assume that WMF7 installed too. I don't really know what else could be the problem.

--One more thing to check: is MPC using the intervideo audio filter as desired? It might be using the Nero Digital Audio Decoder, which doesn't work for me so I blocked it.

[mikeX]

thanks gabest & Liisachan for the quick reply & double thanks gabest for your work on mpc! i'm becoming a big fan of it lately

@ Liisachan

i was using the dlls from my win98se installation (which i haven't used in ages so it probably doesn't have dx9 installed)

but why is that?? (i'm gonna verify it later on)
so, if i install dx9b on my win98se platform should wine be able to run mpc using those dlls?

[Dropbear]

Still Can't get AC3/DTS Passthrough

Under Play-Filters I have

Default DirectSound Device
Video Renderer
AC3 Audio Decoder (Greyed Out)
FFDSHOW MPEG-4 Video Decoder


In the Filters Option I have the following checked.

DTS/AC3 Parser
DTS Passthrough to SP/DIF
AC3 Decoder


If I UNCHECK AC3 Decoder then I get a signal though the optical, but it's not AC3.

Filters show me

Default DirectSound Device
Video Renderer
Intervideo Audio Decoder
FFDSHOW MPEG-4 Video Decoder
AVI <-> AC3/DTS (greyed out)


So I can get sound, but I guess the Intervideo Audio Decoder is downmixing the AC3 signal. Cannot get AC3 passthrough.

Please help.

[Dropbear]

some more information.

In AC3Filter, I checked the box that says USE WAVEOUT instead of USE DIRECT SOUND

I rebooted and when I played a DVD, I got AC3filter working fine. (no DTS support obviously)..

I went back into AC3Filter, rechecked the option to USE DIRECTSOUND and rebooted again

This time, I got the Intervideo Audio Filter again, and the receiver observed it as 2 channel .. not AC3 or DTS.. So I'm still stuck.

I don't want to use AC3Filter because I can't get it to pass through DTS and it doesn't handle Music DVD audio well.

(note this experimentation is with your "AC3 DECODE" box checked off)



----

Just checked Control Panel -> Sounds and it says the sound hardware is "C-Media Wave Device". Is this a problem getting your program to work through DirectSound???

[Coroner]

Hello

For the last 4 or 6 versions of MPC I've been having this problem. When I am using a subtitle file (SRT, SSA doesn't seem to matter) it looses sync as soon as I fastforward or rewind through the file. I am playing VOB files and am using SSA and SRT files with them. As soon as I start to seek in the file the subtitles go out of whack. The only way to have them not go out of whack is to watch the VOB from start to finish with no seeking.

Earlier versions of MPC (about 4-6 months ago) never had this problem, you could seek as much as you wanted and they stayed in synch.

Adding AC3 to MPC is great! So much better not having to add AC3 filter manually. Perhaps a vorbis decoder could be next? Then there would be no need to instal corevorbis etc.