RealAnime 4 - General Questions and Troubleshooting Thread

[Sirber]

The delay with PS is random, I cannot apply a general fix. If it's too bothersome you can use "Matroska GUI" and change the delay, or use a delay while encoding.

[Sirber]

MKV as Input is borked in RC1. I forgot a message box :(

[Sirber]

If you have to use MKV as input, get this update:

http://www.mytempdir.com/346392

[Sirber]

I'm adding snow to LE PowerPack. So far the quality presets are:

0: sCmd := sCmd + '-lavcopts vcodec=snow:vbitrate=' + setting.video_bitrate + ':v' + sPass + 'vstrict=-2:pred=0:last_pred=3:mbd=0:mbcmp=1 ';
1: sCmd := sCmd + '-lavcopts vcodec=snow:vbitrate=' + setting.video_bitrate + ':v' + sPass + 'vstrict=-2:pred=1:last_pred=3:qpel:mbd=0:mbcmp=1 ';
2: sCmd := sCmd + '-lavcopts vcodec=snow:vbitrate=' + setting.video_bitrate + ':v' + sPass + 'vstrict=-2:pred=1:last_pred=3:qpel:mbd=1 ';
Any suggestion are welcome :)

[Yod4z]

i have created an D2V file with DVD2AVI but in RealAnimeLe it said the is not supported?? what can i do to creat an valide D2V file from an VOB file?

[Sirber]

Hi

You have to create your D2V using "DGIndex" in the tool tab. DVD2AVI is outdated. More infos here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=87809).

[edit]

Also, there's a bug with D2V input :) I'm making a new EXE. D2V input has been untested so far since I don't DVDrip with LE. Please tell us in case of problem.

Update: http://www.mytempdir.com/349714

[Yod4z]

Now with the new EXE the D2V file created with DVd2Avi or DGindex in Realanime just say "Encoder error #-1 (x264)
Thanks Sirber for your work ;)

[Sirber]

Go in "C:\Program Files\RealAnime LE\temp", find the .AVS and playback it using a DirectShow player (MPC, WMP, etc). What does it say?

[Yod4z]

Direct show source: could not open as video or audio
Video returned: "DirectShowSource: couldn't open file: object not found"
Audio returned: "DirectShowSource: couldn't open file: object not found"
(c:\RealAnimeLe\temp\0.avs, line 22)

In the line 22 i have this:
DirectShowSource("")

NiceFPS()
ConvertToYV12()

[Yod4z]

i have some other probleme with realanime LE when i intend to open a file compressed with Realanime Le in virtueldubmod it said that :

[!] MKV: A frame of stream 2 (at 40 ms) had only a forward reference (maybe
broken file).

[!] MKV: A frame of stream 2 (at 200 ms) had only a forward reference (maybe
broken file).

[!] MKV: A frame of stream 2 (at 160 ms) had only a forward reference (maybe
broken file).

[!] MKV: A frame of stream 2 (at 480 ms) had only a forward reference (maybe
broken file).
....

[!] MKV: A frame of stream 2 (at 3899120 ms) had only a forward reference
(maybe broken file).

[!] MKV: Video frames seems to be weirdly ordered.

[!] Couldn't locate decompressor for format 'ÿÿÿÿ' (unknown).
VirtualDub requires a Video for Windows (VFW) compatible codec to
decompress video. DirectShow codecs, such as those used by Windows Media
Player, are not suitable. Only 'Direct stream copy' is available for this
video.

i have installed the last Halli Matroska splitter and ffdshow build of 29/11/2005. I can read this file on MPC and Bsplayer but i want to cut some part of the movie with VDub. I have try to install the last x264 build and the last VdubMod 1.5.10.2

[Sirber]

About D2V I'm currently looking why the source is empty.

RealAnime LE makes complient AVC stream, not VFW streams, so VFW applications don't understand it much. The only way to make the output "editable" is to encode via VDubMod directly.

[Sirber]

Direct show source: could not open as video or audio
Video returned: "DirectShowSource: couldn't open file: object not found"
Audio returned: "DirectShowSource: couldn't open file: object not found"
(c:\RealAnimeLe\temp\0.avs, line 22)

In the line 22 i have this:
DirectShowSource("")

NiceFPS()
ConvertToYV12()I found the problem. Here's a new build:
http://www.mytempdir.com/352236

[Yod4z]

i have some probleme if i use mkvmerge gui 1.6.5, if i split one part of the video the first part of video have sound but the other have juste 2sec of sound and then mute.

[Sirber]

:confused:

Sorry I cannot help on that issue :(

[Sirber]

This project gets renamed to "RealAnime 4".

[Sirber]

Some updates:

* RC2 is coming
* New website (more user friendly, access to older RealAnime)
* Added Low Complexity AVC Profils (Helpful for Pocket PC encoding)
* Added "Skip audio encoding"
* x264 --bime

ToDo:
* Subs from MP4

[Yod4z]

RealAnime LE makes complient AVC stream, not VFW streams, so VFW applications don't understand it much. The only way to make the output "editable" is to encode via VDubMod directly.
what the utility of compilent, there's no hardware that support AVC actually.
Can you make an option to define if the user want compilent or no?

[bond]

placing avc into mkv via vfw is not recommended so dont use it

[Tommy Carrot]

placing avc into mkv via vfw is not recommended
Why not? I mean, MKV will never have hardware support (and possibly the same with MP4), so it doesn't really matter, and the compliant way is just limiting and giving extra nuisance to the user. What's the advantage of the native AVC mode, other than you like it better?

[bond]

:search:

[Tommy Carrot]

:search:The b-frame handling in vfw is not perfect, if that's what you think about, but it's really a non-issue, it might be hackish but perfectly usable, so this is not a strong enough reason to use native mode, which practically locks your video and makes editing and additional processing unnecessarily complicated. This might not be an issue for those who uses x264 solely for dvd-rips, but i use it mostly for tv-caps and for my DV videos, and it is a big problem there.

[Sirber]

VFW don't like much foward references too...

Also, if I want to produce a VFW compatible output with x264 CLI, I have to produce a RAW stream then merge it in AVI and specify by hand the FPS, which can have been changed via Filtering. Also, going via AVI makes more temp files, takes longer, etc etc.

Best be standard :sly:

[Sirber]

Due to general request I added back RMVB container. More infos here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=760948#post760948).

[devast]

* Added "Skip audio encoding"
Cool thanks :)

[XH42]

Anyone Have These Problems? (Sorry if these have been mentioned).

1.http://www.picturezero.com/images/XH42/rasettings.jpg
Sorry about the tag it read "Encoder Error #84 (besweet)". This happened when I tried to encode a file s stated:
Video: XVID 512x384 29.97fps 1014Kbps [Video 0]
Audio: MPEG Audio Layer 3 48000Hz stereo 134Kbps [Audio 1]

2. http://www.picturezero.com/images/XH42/propertysuzuka.jpg
http://www.picturezero.com/images/XH42/mkv.jpg
http://www.picturezero.com/images/XH42/vlc.jpg
Note: The audio stream shown in those 3 images were exactly the same.When I encode the avi using the aac+v2 audio+h264 in MKV container, but the MPC player, the MKVInfothe VLC player identifies the audio stream as 22050HZ, Mono output. But when I extract the aac file out and played it in Foobar 2000:
http://www.picturezero.com/images/XH42/foobar.jpg

Any Ideas for those 2 questions? (again, I apologize deeply)

[Sirber]

1) Maybe AAC is broken. I will make more tests. Should be fixed for RC2.

2) AAC+ is encoded as 22.5kHz mono but decoded as 44.1kHz stereo. more infos here (http://www.codingtechnologies.com/products/paraSter.htm) and here (http://www.codingtechnologies.com/products/sbr.htm).

[Sirber]

1) fixed. I had bad dlls in powerpack for AAC. works now.

I will hardcode a 100ms delay for AAC+ v2. Some people can't live without it ;)

Anyone Have These Problems? (Sorry if these have been mentioned).No need to be sorry :)

[spinstate]

I will hardcode a 100ms delay for AAC+ v2. Some people can't live without it
Why not make it an option? the problem seems to be occuring for only some types of sources...

Also just wondering why not make an option for trellis, i'm using REAL_beta2 and trellis seems to be disabled even for the "High" setting..

[Sirber]

Why not make it an option? the problem seems to be occuring for only some types of sources...You can always set a delay in the "Advanced" tab. I will forget about it then.
Also just wondering why not make an option for trellis, i'm using REAL_beta2 and trellis seems to be disabled even for the "High" setting..High only use "B RDO". I might add the options in Adv., but not sure I have enough space...

RC2 will be released tonight. All coding is done.

[Sirber]

Added:
* Low Complexity mode (x264, usefull for playback on Pocket PC or cellphone)
* Trellis (x264, in advanced tab)
* Sub from MP4
* RMVB output (powerpack)
* Helix AAC+ (powerpack)
* x264 --bime
* YAMB
* Rename4U
* Filtering Preview (powerpack)
* Snow (powerpack)
* Add button in the file list menu

Updated:
* x264 rev 394
* mencoder (2006/01/01) P3
* Zones reduced to 3 spots

Fixed:
* AAC
* Temp file delete
* D2V input
* Audio sinc issues from MKV or MP4 sources

Not fixed:
* Audio delay when using AAC+ v2, can be manually corrected in advanced tab.

ToDo:
* Guide
* Correct reported bugs :p

Please download again the PowerPack. New stuff has been added.

This is the last beta release. Next one is the final one and will include a guide. Please don't be shy and post comments, bugs, features you'd like to have, etc.

http://www.detritus.qc.ca

[XH42]

WooHoo! Thank you Sirber. :)

Just a recommandation, in futrue releases (if any)do you think you could add a option that invloves some specific settings for the 2 pass for the video. For example: be able to choose to do only the first pass of the 2 passes. Or a second pass only option if the user locates the pass Log file from the first pass.

Cheers

[Sirber]

Would that be against "batch encoding"? Not sure "most people" would use that. First pass is pretty fast, so I don't think it would be usefull.

[Sirber]

I get a "Error #-1 (x264)" when encoding from MP4. Investigating...

[edit]

Found and fixed. MP4 in DirectShow needs a FPS.

If you have that bug please ask here and I will put a build online.

[spinstate]

Hmm..one feature I can think of is mouseover toolstips for the different options(or otherwise a help file), might be helpfull for newcomers unfamiliar with the different settings :)

also what's the difference between AAC+ & AAC+ v2?

Thanks.

[Sirber]

A guide will be shipped and avalible online with the final release. The GUI will also be updated with hints and more setting validation.

AAC+ v2 = Winamp 5.12 HE-AAC v2 w/ Parametric Stereo (MKV, MP4)
AAC+ = Helix HE-AAC (MKV, RMVB)

aac+ v2 has more quality but may add a 100ms delay.

[XH42]

Hm... I've got another error with the besweet program again trying to encode a 320kbps CBR 48KHz mp3 to aac+ using the RMVB container.

"Encoder error #-1073741819 (BeSweet)"

[Sirber]

Seems besweet failed to decompress your MP3 to WAV
or Producer crashed encoding a WAV...

Can I have your source?

[Sirber]

General
Count : 169
Kind of stream : General
Count of video strea : 1
Count of audio strea : 1
Count of text stream : 0
Count of chapter str : 0
Count of image strea : 0
Complete name : D:\Upload\....mp4
Folder name : D:\Upload
File name : ....mp4
File extension : mp4
File size : 242888142
File size : 232 MiB
File size : 232 MiB
File size : 232 MiB
File size : 232 MiB
File size : 231.6 MiB
Format : MPEG4
Format : MPEG 4
Format/Extensions : MP4 M4V M4A
Overal BitRate : 1400971
Overal BitRate : 1401 KBps
PlayTime : 1386970
PlayTime : 23mn 6s
PlayTime : 23mn 6s 970ms
PlayTime : 23mn 6s
PlayTime : 00:23:06.970
Codecs Video : Unknown(0)
Audio codecs : AAC LC

Video #0
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Video
StreamKindID : 0
ID : 1
Codec : Unknown(0)
Codec : Unknown(0)
Bit rate : 0
Width : 0
Height : 0
Frame rate : 23.976
Frame rate : 23.976
FrameCount : 33287
PlayTime : 1386970
PlayTime : 23mn 6s
PlayTime : 23mn 6s 970ms
PlayTime : 23mn 6s
PlayTime : 00:23:06.970

Audio #0
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Audio
StreamKindID : 0
ID : 2
Codec : MPEG-4 AAC LC
Codec : AAC LC
Bit rate : 127952
Bit rate : 128 KBps
Sampling rate : 48000
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
PlayTime : 1386965
PlayTime : 23mn 6s
PlayTime : 23mn 6s 965ms
PlayTime : 23mn 6s
PlayTime : 00:23:06.965
BeSweet Access Violation :(

[XH42]

http://www.picturezero.com/images/XH42/vlcstats.png

Note : The video codec was encoded in Divx 6

Is this what you mean by "source"?

[Sirber]

The file. I'd need it to test :)

[Sirber]

Update:
* Fix AAC handling as input
* Fix MP4 as input

http://www.mytempdir.com/363572

[XH42]

Hm.. funny, after I restarted my computer and cut a scene with Nandub, it appears to encode that piece fine in RMVB format, stupid Besweet :p

Another question, in some of my encoded movies there were times where slim Horizontal lines appears during movements in the video (I'm a noob for those kind of things), is there any way to reduce that by using the filters (Noise Reduction, Deinterlace ect.)?

cheers

[Sirber]

This is interlacement (http://encyclopedia.tfd.com/interlaced) or telecine (http://encyclopedia.tfd.com/telecined).

What's the file FPS (http://encyclopedia.tfd.com/Frame+per+second)?

[XH42]

23.976fps

[Sirber]

Your source has been badly processed. You can't do much whitout compromizing the quality :(

[XH42]

So there's nothing I could do heh? Oh well. Thanks anyway.

[ggab]

thanks for the 4.0 version ;)

wishlist:

- mpeg 1 video input support
- Log to a Text file: x264 and/or Besweet activities (mostly RA error messages)

[Yod4z]

my wishlist for this great app is an option to shutdown the computer when done or when a definited time

[Sirber]

@ggab

1) Someone tryed to add it, but I got no news. I will have to do some research about how to add it.

2) Not all encoders create logfiles, besweet do and producer, but not x264 IIRC.

@Yod4z

Easy to add. Want me to launch a defrag before shutdown? ;)

[Yod4z]

yes easy but mutch better easy with option ;)

I have some probleme with the last realanime power pack after doing the transcoding audio i get #-1 X264 but with the realanime LE RC1 i get no message. The video source has been compresse with 2 pass XVID 1.1.
Can i activate some log file to see what is the probleme? I can upload the video if you want to see want is the probleme ;)