RealAnime 4 - General Questions and Troubleshooting Thread

[Sirber]

Zones maybe...Never!!! ;)
Still only alpha 4 at http://www.eluni.net/downloads/RealAnimeLE/Uploading...

[Sirber]

I'v been experiencing problems with besweet encoding (audio encoding part in RALE), while file were encoded (32 kbps Parametric Stereo + normalisation) it were taking me more than ~45 minutes to encode files (to much long)

I'v test the same command line in a dos shell and the encode were made in ~10 sec max and test it with belight with the same result.

I'd like to know if anyone else experience the same problem. I dont know if it is related to intel HT technology or any intel p4 processors.I read your IM about the Sleep() function. 150ms waiting is the work good on Single CPU machines. What's your recommended value on HT?

[Eretria-chan]

Never!!! ;)
Bastard ;)

[Sirber]

How can I fit that (zones) in the GUI? :confused:

[Eretria-chan]

Are you referring to out of space or simply don't know how to add it (gui wise)?

[Sirber]

GUI wise. I don't want to scare people with zones, also it needs to fit in the small frame if te GUI (or popup?).

[Eretria-chan]

Why do the gui need to be so small? You could try to put an advanced button that launches a new dialog and label that advanced button "for the advanced users only!" You could also try to educate some on how zones work, if they are not satisfied with the video.

Does that sounds reasonable?

[Sirber]

Why do the gui need to be so small?The design is perfect! ;) It's small coz I don't have much component to throw in. Also, too much settings scare away the user.
You could try to put an advanced button that launches a new dialog and label that advanced button "for the advanced users only!"hum... advanced UI with only zones?
You could also try to educate some on how zones work, if they are not satisfied with the video.That's out of question :devil:, but I will build a guide with final release is done.
Does that sounds reasonable?I cannot say... ;)

[Sirber]

I could add an "Adv." tab for experienced user with zones in it. It will not make the UI heavier I think...

[Eretria-chan]

Just be sure to let the users know that the advanced tab is for advanced users only =) About that guide for zones, I think it could be useful for those who are n00b, yet are willing to learn. There's no saying it must be used, but for those who want some extra cream out of your little app...

[Sirber]

the guide will be for LE, not for zones ;)

[Eretria-chan]

But zones will be part of LE, will it not? :P

[Sirber]

I will try, but the guide will not be titled: "Zones in RealAnime LE for noobs" ;)

[Eretria-chan]

Add a section at the end: "Advanced features - only necessary for those advanced users!" ;)

[Sirber]

http://www.detritus.qc.ca/files/rale_zone.PNG
I will look like that...

[LAIN]

I read your IM about the Sleep() function. 150ms waiting is the work good on Single CPU machines. What's your recommended value on HT?


I currently testing a 2 ms delay (at <1 ms realanime take a lot of cpu ~15 to 50%) with the 2 ms, besweet take twice of it time (take about 3 to 5 minutes, better than the initial 45 minutes :D, the consol encoding take aroung ~1:30 to 2 minutes) and RealAnimeLE.exe take ~1 to 5% cpu.

I'v tested few other functions, but realanime process take a lot of cpu and it's bad.

if any other people having these kind of problem, could they report and tell us witch kind of computer does they have.


[EDIT]

after disabling HT, i'v retry to encode with besweet and notice no problem with encoding time (even with the original 150ms and 500 ms sleep).

HT is bad... really bad...

[Sirber]

Can someone test on real SMP?

[Kayser]

I tried lastest beta 1 and works great. The only thing that I found odd was that with MKV + AAC audio (source) when it finishes encoding (the file is done great, no problem whatsover) RALE gives an access violation. It happened with the only 2 sources of that kind (MKV+AAC) I tried but they are both from the same series so I don't know if it's in general or just my sources. Anyway, great job Sirber!

[Sirber]

Does besweet restart with "(retry)" in the logs? RALE gives AV or besweet?

[Kayser]

Where is the log Sirber? I'm lost there :confused:

[Sirber]

bottom of realanime, in realtime :)

@Eretria-chan

I'm currently testing zones in LE :)

[Kayser]

Lol, that's why I couldn't find it :P. I'll enconde one of those again and tell you what happens

[namelessted]

why can i never get my videos to work. I have an AVI that runs fine, i put it in RealAnime LE and convert it. I run it and it just plays sound, how do i fix this? im sorry i am such a noob

[Sirber]

install latest ffdshow, which comes with RealAnime LE. Which player do you use?

[namelessted]

I use media player classic or VLC player. and i did install ffdshow.

[Sirber]

Both should work. I used MPC in the past whitout problems. VCL works well too (tested last week)... :confused:

[namelessted]

hmm, i dunno. i will play aroung with it. maybe i hit somthing wrong in the setting wheni converted the video.

[Sirber]

what are your settings?

[ggab]

"Where is the log Sirber? I'm lost there"
bottom of realanime, in realtime :)

a very important feature to do is the "(realtime log)`s log"
i mean, every message that it is shown in the screen, will be logged in a text file. (something like old producer.log....)

thus, u can check (later) how well or bad the encoding was, if u are not watching the monitor :D

[namelessted]

now it is giving me an x264 codec error.

video codec is x264, high quality, 2 pass mode, 368 kbps bitrate, +1 filtering
should i turn "use DirectShow" on in the video filtering tab?

[Sirber]

Which error?

Turn on DShow if you don't have VFW decoders.

[Sirber]

Lain discovered an error with "Low" profile: it fails :D. Looks like no one uses it :p

[SenorKaffee]

Hm, I keep getting the error "Analysis failed: unsupported source." I know that X264 can´t work with the YUY2 data in my source AVI that is HuffYuv encoded, so I added the statement "ConvertToYV12" to the Video Filtering tab. That didn´t change a thing. Any idea how to get RALE to accept the video?

[Sirber]

The error "Analysis failed: unsupported source." is a RealAnime LE error and can mean 2 thing:

1) You input an unknown container (ex: wmv)
2) Your AVI does not contain MP3 or PCM audio track.

[SenorKaffee]

The source is an export from AFX 5.5. The container is AVI, the video codec is HuffYuv 2.2.0 (YUY2) and the audio track is uncompressed PCM (AFX won´t export something else, at least not in 5.5). Are you sure it´s not a problem with the colorspace?

[Sirber]

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/249/b1av6sy.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

@SenorKaffee

Yeah, RealAnime LE doesn't look at the colorspace and already convert in the AVS. Can you send me your source?

[Sirber]

I'm adding some tools to LE:

* MSU Video Quality Mesure
* HDTVtoMPEG

[Kayser]

Sirber, concerning the access violations I got (they were like the last screenshot you posted :P), I tried but couldn't reproduce the error anymore. Must have been those 2 sources.

[Sirber]

the only possible AV I can think of is the log timer trying to get logs from a freed encoder... :(

[Sirber]

Zones works now #1, they are even saved in the XML! :D
They will be avalbile in beta 2, which I beleive will be the last beta.

[spinstate]

Any thoughts on adding support for Avisynth file input?

[Sirber]

none.

It is not needed. Every filtering can be done via the "Filtering" tab. If someone wish to develop the input module for it, the source is avalible. I won't spend weeks to handle each case AVS can bring for nothing.

[clarification]

AVS as input is the worst pain ever for the track manager. There are so many possibilities about if the AVS contain video, audio, or video + audio, that makes the code very long and hard. I tryed by the past and I failed :)

[spinstate]

lol i just asked b'cause I have a some crappy RMVB files and was wondering if I could re-encode it with RALE along with using MSmooth() etc.. to improve the video quality.

[Sirber]

hum...

not sure I can handle RMVB anyway. I think I can know what's inside with MediaInfo lib and encode the video via avisynth, but besweet will not like the audio :(

[edit]

maybe with avs2wav... :)
I'll look it up.

[SenorKaffee]

This is a clip of my source, direct stream copy from VirtualDub.
http://www.fullmetalpantsu.de/diverses/1npe06_extrakt.avi

[Sirber]

k. I will have a look.

General
Complete name : C:\Documents and Settings\sirber\Bureau\1npe06_extrakt.avi
File size : 73.5 MiB
Format : Audio Video Interleave
Overal BitRate : 46556 KBps
PlayTime : 13s 240ms

Video #0
Codec : Huffman
Bit rate : 45131 KBps
Width : 640
Height : 480
Aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate : 25
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 5.876

Audio #0
Codec : PCM
Bit rate : 1411 KBps
Channels : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44 KHz
So far so good. This should already be supported... :confused:

[Sirber]

Audio #0
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Audio
StreamKindID : 0
Codec : 1
Codec : PCM
Codec/Info : Microsoft PCM
Codec/Url : http://www.microsoft.com/windows/
Bit rate : 1411200
Bit rate : 1411 KBps
Channels : 2
Channels : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44100
Sampling rate : 44 KHz

Codec #1, I only managed #0 and #55 :) Gonna work in next version.

[Sirber]

Added:
* x264 Zones
* HDTVtoMPEG (TS converter)
* MSU Video Quality Mesure

Updated:
* AVI analysis (PCM codec #1)
* x264 rev 380D

ToDo:
* RMVB input support

http://www.detritus.qc.ca

About zones:
In the grid, the first cell is "start frame #", the second "end frame #", and the last, a quantizer (q=) or a bitrate multiplier (b=). ex:

1 3000 q=50
3001 5000 b=0.75

[spinstate]

I think I can know what's inside with MediaInfo lib and encode the video via avisynth, but besweet will not like the audio
Doesn't the x264 CLI already have support for AVS input :? , yeah audio would be troublesome especially files with multiple audio tracks..

[Sirber]

no problem with x264, but BeSweet doesn't read RMVB :)