RealAnime 4 - General Questions and Troubleshooting Thread

[Sirber]

I got the AV again. I don't know what's the cause... :(

[SenorKaffee]

Did the conversion of my test file work? Maybe something is wrong with the way I set up RALE.

[Sirber]

Did the conversion of my test file work? Maybe something is wrong with the way I set up RALE.Yes!!! :D with beta 2! :D

[Sirber]

I added Constant Quantizer mode.

Next release will be the final one. If I get no error report, next weekend it will be released.

[spinstate]

Lain discovered an error with "Low" profile: it fails . Looks like no one uses it

Was that fixed in the beta because "Low" quality setting gives Encoder error #-1 (x264) , input file is MKV (Xvid/6chAAC)

[LAIN]

Was that fixed in the beta because "Low" quality setting gives Encoder error #-1 (x264) , input file is MKV (Xvid/6chAAC)


Yes the bug was fixed (i use low 1 pass for testing purpose)

normally the AAC 6 ch should be encoded without any problem, i made some test with few files and everything work perfectly on my computer!!!


LAIN

[Sirber]

normally the AAC 6 ch should be encoded without any problem, i made some test with few files and everything work perfectly on my computer!!!The error was on x264... :p

@spinstate

Can I have your source? I encoded with Low some hours ago with no problem.

[spinstate]

@spinstate

Can I have your source? I encoded with Low some hours ago with no problem.

Sorry my connection is too slow :( to upload the whole file..

Here's the MatroskaDiag info though..don't know if it is helpfull :)

File size : 229.36 MB
File complete : yes
Duration : 00:28:54.108
Writing application : mkvmerge v0.8.5 built on Feb 22 2004 12:17:21
Muxing application : libebml v0.6.4 + libmatroska v0.6.3
Date : 2003-06-01 03:05:06.000
Tracks : 4
Track 1 : Video
- Codec : Microsoft VFW compatibility mode (V_MS/VFW/FOURCC)
- Fourcc : XviD MPEG-4 codec (XVID)
- Possible filter : Xvid
- Installed : yes, in D:\WINNT\system32\xvid.ax
- Link : http://www.xvid.org
- Possible filter : ffdshow
- Installed : yes, in D:\Program Files\ffdshow\ffdshow.ax (1.0.2.2605)
- Link : http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow
- Language : English (eng)
- Pixel Width : 576
- Pixel Height : 432
Track 2 : Audio
- Codec : AAC Low Complexity (A_AAC/MPEG4/LC)
- Possible filter : CoreAAC
- Installed : no
- Link : http://coreaac.corecodec.org
- Language : English (eng)
- Sampling Frequency : 44100
- Channels : 6
Track 3 : Audio
- Codec : AAC Low Complexity (A_AAC/MPEG4/LC)
- Possible filter : CoreAAC
- Installed : no
- Link : http://coreaac.corecodec.org
- Language : Japanese (jpn)
- Sampling Frequency : 44100
- Channels : 6
Track 4 : Subtitles
- Codec : SubStation Alpha (S_TEXT/SSA)
- Possible filter : VSFilter/DVobSub
- Installed : yes, in D:\Program Files\Combined Community Codec Pack\Filters\VSFilter.dll (1.0.1.2)
- Link : http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli
- Language : English (eng)

DirectShow RenderFile check :
Matroska Splitter : Gabest's Matroska Splitter
- Installed : no
- Can be created : no
Matroska Splitter : Haali's New Matroska Splitter
- Installed : yes, in D:\Program Files\Haali\MatroskaSplitter\splitter.ax
- Can be created : yes
RenderFile with DirectShow : OK

DirectShow detailed rendering :
0> MyRenderFile : F:\Samurai X OVA 1\[Oasis]_-_Samurai_X_-_OVA_1_-_Act_1.mkv
0> Creation of GraphBuilder : OK
0> Creation of FilterMapper2 : OK
0> Adding graph to ROT : OK
16> Creation of source filter : OK
16> # Rendering output pin F:\Samurai X OVA 1\[Oasis]_-_Samurai_X_-_OVA_1_-_Act_1.mkv(Video)
16> Filters matching mediatype : ffdshow MPEG-4 Video Decoder, DirectVobSub (auto-loading version), Video Renderer, XviD MPEG-4 Video Decoder, AVI Decompressor, Nero Video Decoder, Nero DVD Decoder
16> Trying connection to ffdshow MPEG-4 Video Decoder :
16> OK, connected to (In)ffdshow MPEG-4 Video Decoder
16> # Rendering output pin F:\Samurai X OVA 1\[Oasis]_-_Samurai_X_-_OVA_1_-_Act_1.mkv(Video) -> ffdshow MPEG-4 Video Decoder(Out)
31> Filters matching mediatype : ffdshow MPEG-4 Video Decoder, DirectVobSub (auto-loading version), Video Renderer, AVI Decompressor, Nero Video Decoder, Nero DVD Decoder
31> Trying connection to DirectVobSub (auto-loading version) :
31> OK, connected to (Video)DirectVobSub (auto-loading version)
31> # Rendering output pin F:\Samurai X OVA 1\[Oasis]_-_Samurai_X_-_OVA_1_-_Act_1.mkv(Video) -> ffdshow MPEG-4 Video Decoder(Out) -> DirectVobSub (auto-loading version)(Output)
62> Filters matching mediatype : ffdshow MPEG-4 Video Decoder, DirectVobSub (auto-loading version), Video Renderer, AVI Decompressor, Nero Video Decoder, Nero DVD Decoder
62> Trying connection to Video Renderer :
172> OK, connected to (VMR Input0)Video Renderer
172> Completed path : F:\Samurai X OVA 1\[Oasis]_-_Samurai_X_-_OVA_1_-_Act_1.mkv(Video) -> ffdshow MPEG-4 Video Decoder(Out) -> DirectVobSub (auto-loading version)(Output) -> Video Renderer
172> # Rendering output pin F:\Samurai X OVA 1\[Oasis]_-_Samurai_X_-_OVA_1_-_Act_1.mkv(Audio)
172> Filters matching mediatype : ffdshow Audio Decoder, DirectVobSub (auto-loading version), ACM Wrapper
172> Trying connection to ffdshow Audio Decoder :
172> OK, connected to (In)ffdshow Audio Decoder
172> # Rendering output pin F:\Samurai X OVA 1\[Oasis]_-_Samurai_X_-_OVA_1_-_Act_1.mkv(Audio) -> ffdshow Audio Decoder(Out)
172> Filters matching mediatype : ffdshow Audio Decoder, DirectVobSub (auto-loading version), Default DirectSound Device, RealMedia Splitter, ACM Wrapper, Nero Splitter
172> Trying connection to DirectVobSub (auto-loading version) :
172> DirectVobSub (auto-loading version) AddFilter failed : : Unspecified error (0x80004005)
187> Trying connection to Default DirectSound Device :
203> OK, connected to (Audio Input pin (rendered))Default DirectSound Device
203> Completed path : F:\Samurai X OVA 1\[Oasis]_-_Samurai_X_-_OVA_1_-_Act_1.mkv(Audio) -> ffdshow Audio Decoder(Out) -> Default DirectSound Device
203> # Rendering output pin F:\Samurai X OVA 1\[Oasis]_-_Samurai_X_-_OVA_1_-_Act_1.mkv(Subtitle)
203> OK, connected to (Input)DirectVobSub (auto-loading version)
203> MyRenderFile finished : OK

[namelessted]

sorry to bother you again, but i finally fixed the encode error and got the file converting to work again. But i still have the same problem with viewing the video file. I unistalled all of my video playback devices then reinstalled them. Real Alternative, then VLC player, then Combined Community Codec, then RealAnime LE. maybe i have some options wrong on FFDshow or something. any ideas?

[Sirber]

@spinstate

Can you post me the "Info" from realanime? You just have to right click on the file in realanime, then Info.

@namelessted

I can't help getting your system stable. sorry.

[namelessted]

its ok, i just didnt know if you might know what the problem would be. i am gonna continue messing with it. Thanks for the sweet program though, i used the old version for a while and i was amazed.

quick question. in the output tab, there is a set that says container with the option Matroska selected and mp4 is unselectable, is there any way to make mp4 selectable?

[Sirber]

quick question. in the output tab, there is a set that says container with the option Matroska selected and mp4 is unselectable, is there any way to make mp4 selectable?Yes, but RealAnime might crash :D. There are currently no code to output mp4. There are currently also no plan to make the code :(

[edit]

Plan these days is to add RealVideo 10, xvid, mp3 and vorbis :)
More containers comes next.

[SenorKaffee]

Can MP4Box work with MKV? Then you could just take your standard MKV output and mux it in an MP4 container with a command line.

[Sirber]

Nope. MP4Box can't read MKV.

[Sirber]

Some work on the GUI and new codecs...

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/504/le4fk.th.jpg (http://img375.imageshack.us/my.php?image=le4fk.jpg)

[Sirber]

So far, added XviD, Vorbis and MP3. Still need to add RV10...

Those will not be bundeled with LE, but in an external package. So, LE will still be LE at 15MB.

[Gimpi]

Some work on the GUI and new codecs...

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/504/le4fk.th.jpg (http://img375.imageshack.us/my.php?image=le4fk.jpg)

Hi, I notice you have a pulldown menu now for container type. I've been messing with the b2 version and MP4 container is always grayed out. My ignorance is showing, but I don't know how to get the final file into a MP4 container. Was this just a placeholder in the b2 version, or have I not enabled something in settings to make it work? Will it work in the next version?

My second question deals with RealAnimeLE x264 settings and the PSP. The RealAnimeLE Quality: High Mode: 3 Pass really blows me away at low bitrates. It's something I can't get close to in quality when using PSPVideo9 AVC settings. Is there anything being done with the RealAnimeLE settings that make it look so good that is going to make it incompatable with the PSP? I ran into this link and it looks like x264 files can be used on the PSP:
http://x264.nl/psp/

I want to be able to use MP4 container and high quality 3 pass mode on RealAnimeLE to make my files. I've dug around on the forums but not really hitting upon anything related to RealAnimeLE, MP4 and PSP. Suggestions, ideas, help? I'm willing to be a tester and/or bug hunter if it would help. :)

[Sirber]

Hi

MP4 is currently not implemented, only MKV. I have no ETA about the implementation of MP4 yet.

About PSP, I really have no idea since it's not the primary goal of RealAnime LE. Can you right click on your source in realanime, hit "Info" and paste here the content? Thanks!

[Gimpi]

Hi

MP4 is currently not implemented, only MKV. I have no ETA about the implementation of MP4 yet.

About PSP, I really have no idea since it's not the primary goal of RealAnime LE. Can you right click on your source in realanime, hit "Info" and paste here the content? Thanks!

General
Count : 169
Kind of stream : General
Count of video strea : 1
Count of audio strea : 1
Count of text stream : 0
Count of chapter str : 0
Count of image strea : 0
Complete name : C:\Documents and Settings\WinXP32\Desktop\bleach60.avi
Folder name : C:\Documents and Settings\WinXP32\Desktop
File name : bleach60.avi
File extension : avi
File size : 241273242
File size : 230 MiB
File size : 230 MiB
File size : 230 MiB
File size : 230 MiB
File size : 230.1 MiB
Format : AVI
Format : Audio Video Interleave
Format/Extensions : AVI
Overal BitRate : 1563365
Overal BitRate : 1563 KBps
PlayTime : 1234635
PlayTime : 20mn 34s
PlayTime : 20mn 34s 635ms
PlayTime : 20mn 34s
PlayTime : 00:20:34.635
Codecs Video : MSUD
Audio codecs : MPEG1/2 L3

Video #0
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Video
StreamKindID : 0
Codec : MSUD
Codec : MSUD
Bit rate : 1358365
Bit rate : 1358 KBps
Width : 320
Height : 240
Aspect ratio : 1.333
Aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate : 14.985
Frame rate : 14.985
FrameCount : 18519
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 1.180

Audio #0
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Audio
StreamKindID : 0
Codec : 55
Codec : MPEG1/2 L3
Codec/Info : MPEG1 or 2 Audio Layer 3
Codec/Url : http://www.iis.fraunhofer.de/amm/index.html
Bit rate : 192000
Bit rate : 192 KBps
Channels : 2
Channels : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48000
Sampling rate : 48 KHz

Above is the source file info before I run it though RealAnimeLE. I guess most of my current confusion is how to get the aac and 264 tracks out of the mkv container and into a mp4 container after the RealAnimeLE encode. I've tried using mkvextract.exe, MP4Box.exe, then AtomChanger.exe, but the file ends up locking up my PSP. I can play the file in zplayer though.

[spinstate]

@spinstate

Can I have your source? I encoded with Low some hours ago with no problem.

oops! my mistake, I was using beta 1 :p I updated to beta 2 and it works fine now <_<

EDIT: See this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=102564&highlight=psp) thread for more info about x264 PSP encoding.

[Sirber]

EDIT: See this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=102564&highlight=psp) thread for more info about x264 PSP encoding.

About PSP, I really have no idea since it's not the primary goal of RealAnime LE.
Thanks but it's not a priority. Until RealAnime can do MP4 it's pointless..

[Sirber]

Added RV10...

[LAIN]

currently adding mp4, it will soon be finished...

[Sirber]

looks like LE 1.0 will be ready for this very weekend :D

I finished "LE PowerPack", a codec upgrade to add support for RV10, XviD, Vorbis and MP3 to sweet sweet RealAnime LE :D

[devast]

Hi there, first of all your program is great :) i'll use it for sure. Tho i've got some feature request: some more detailed input track management would be nice... sometimes i just do not want to reencode the audio tracks, i wanna keep them as they are. Any comment ? :)

[Sirber]

So... "Keep audio" and "Don't encode audio"?

[devast]

Well sort of... the video track must be reencoded, the audio: choose the track/tracks you want to include in the new file, and an option to reencode them or just copy them over. The idea is mine, but you should think about implementation :P i think we need a little more then a "Keep audio" button, but not mutch more. This keep only english/japanese subs is not too good either. Come to think of it, this is a batch stuff so you only read the file details while you click the start button, before that the program does not know anything about the file content. Too bad :( Anyway the "keep audio" stuff can be implemented easily at least. File content readout while grabbing into the list must require major code changes.

[Sirber]

If you have a look at the track manager, you can not set settings by tracks, but presets. I can globaly set "don't recode audio" but no by tracks, since you can't choose them.

[devast]

Yeah that's why i said it probably can't be implemented easily. Since file info is not fetched when you grab it.
edit: but if you fetch for example the first file's track info (assuming this program is used for batch series reencoding) the other's probably would be the same. anyway this is way too mutch, so i wont ask for it :) and probably it has some downsides too.

[Sirber]

I fetch track infos for the file to be encoded, then I select the tracks I want with the settings from "Track management", then I encode only those.

[devast]

Yeah, that's what i meant (i think). I grab the file to the list, then i fetch track infos for the file to be encoded, then I select the tracks I want with the settings from "Track management", then I push the start button. The key is that the program should know the buildup of the file before you hit the start button. Ie the "track management" tab should dynamically change due the source buildup.
edit: but this theory sure has some flaws.

Sry for bad english, do you understand me btw ? :)

[Sirber]

BTW I understand you ;)

The ultimate and sweet goal of RealAnime is to encode each files with the exact same settings, where each files refer to a serie of animated content with the same exact source attributes.

That's why I can't make per file settings.

[devast]

Yeah i know that. But since a "serie of animated content with the same exact source attributes" should have the same source buildup, it's safe to assume if you read out the first file, the others will be the same.

edit: anyway this is only an idea :) the "Keep original audio tracks" button will do the trick for me, the other things are just some ideas. i'm a :helpful: anyway...

[Sirber]

yeah... helpful newbie all you want ;)

It will be in next release.

Thanks for the ideas :D

[devast]

Maybe i'll play a little with delphi and mateiralize my ideas, (only for the gui ofc), the code programming of this is idea is the hardest part... too mutch "assuming" :D exception handling 4tw...
i'm kinda used to codeing (university etc...), but i'm not a hc coder myself :)

[Sirber]

"hc coder"?

sources: svn://svn.detritus.qc.ca/detritus/RealAnimeLE

[devast]

i'm no hardcore coder :) i'll check them.

[Sirber]

it's a GUI... no hardcore coding :p

[devast]

Okey, I'm fetching the source... tho i never used cvs or svn before...

[Sirber]

I suggest you use TortoiseSVN. Pretty usefull GUI :)

[devast]

svn.exe co svn://svn.detritus.qc.ca/detritus/RealAnimeLE did the trick :D

[Sirber]

:)

Good luck with Delphi 7 VCL :D

[devast]

Yikes, a gui can be complicated too :D your skills surpasses mine so... i'll check it but there's a lot of things i can't understand :) maybe i'll dig into it some time.

[Sirber]

don't take too much time, a new version each 2 days is produced ;)

[LAIN]

@devast

i didn't know delphi 7 (even programming) before helping Sirber in this project. taking some times to understand the language!!! it's all that you need!!!


LAIN

[Sharktooth]

i'm trying to learn 4 different things at a time...
delphi, c# for .NET, ASP .NET and WSH.

[Sirber]

best to learn 1 and succeed than learn 4 and fail :p

[devast]

i've been learning delphi/java/c,c++ in the same time, AND i have other things to do in school too and of course i love watching anime series so... time is limited :P
Okey here's one of my work(as a school homework ofc...) http://devast.tvn.hu/source.rar but you need id3v2 lib to compile it http://devast.tvn.hu/id3v2.dcu. Not many cosmetics but it works :D anyway i think delphi is good for smaller projects, java is a pain in the ass, and C is good for bigger projects. Comments in hungarian language, so don't bother with it you won't understand :thanks: :D

[LAIN]

I'v just finished some test with the output in MP4, i'v resolv few bugs... i currently working on subs... i dont think it will take long to make this.

tested with : xvid + mp3 / x264 + he-aac <-- work fine :D

LAIN

[Sirber]

Good work! :D

I'll have a look at it tomorrow.