RealAnime 4 - General Questions and Troubleshooting Thread

[Sirber]

I removed the "idle" at the end. Was masking errors :devil:

[garbii]

Well i guess there must be sth similiar ... C++ is quite a good language . However as I said I'm a poor programer that only knows the basics so I just don't know .

However As far as I'm not mistaken those libraries that I gave u link (or even mplayer and mencoder) have their sources . I remember that in C++ there was a command (function) to access other dll and run them as a function .


Also note that mencoder is a CLI and there are other programs that work as GUI for it (i'm talking here about linux guis for it) . So there must be some way for those Guis to run mencoder .

[Eretria-chan]

In Delphi 7 I use TDosCommand to launch producer, mencoder, etc and monitor it. I know when it's running, and I get exitCode at the end so I can know what happened. Anything similar for linux (C++)?
I suppose, that at least on windows, you would aquire the return code of the main thread of a program, since when that threads terminates, it is the return code of the program.

garbii: Indeed, there is a way to dynamically load dlls in C++. When dynamically loaded, you can aquire an address to any function and execute it.

[garbii]

Some links :
http://www.kdevelop.org >> I think that there are some tutorials about programinig in C under KDE envronment.

[Sirber]

Looks like you guys really want RealAnime under linux no? lol

[Eretria-chan]

I'd like to see RealAnime in C or C++. That way, I can change the source myself if I've got any complains ;)

[Sirber]

I think it would be simplier to use C# and mono, so it would run "same source" on both OS.

Also the framework has everything I need to manage external apps.

[Eretria-chan]

NO! *cries*
Not the framework...

Also...

NO! *cries*
Not C#...

[vanger]

I capture the animations (cartoons) from TV.
Video - MJPEG 768x576
Audio - PCM WAV 48000Hz 16bit Mono
Then I cut unnecessary scenes (comercials etc.) in VDubMod, compress audio in mp3 44100Hz 64kbps mono, crop black borders, apply some simple denoise filter and compress into XviD 512x384 1000kbps. The result is pretty good.
But after reading this forum I want to try x264 and AAC for using in the future if it shows good results.

The first problem in work with RealAnime is that it copies the video to his temp directory. This is uncomfortable, because the 40min video file is about 5Gb on disk and the copying requires additional time and disk space, which I usually haven't.
Is it possible to use the file through avs script without copying?

What bitrate should I use to get the result visually similar to my XviD settings?
I thought that x264 allows to get video in the same to XviD size but in bigger resolution. Am I right?

And what about compress mono input audio in AAC+ v2? It transforms to Parametric Stereo in any case?

[Sirber]

ish....

First you should get your source in Stereo or else it will be very troublesome later.

Source --> VDub (direct stream copy while removing stuff) --> RealAnime --> Resize 640x480

Use default settings for bitrate and such.

And what about compress mono input audio in AAC+ v2? It transforms to Parametric Stereo in any case?I never tryed mono source, and RealAnime is built for 2 channels.

[vanger]

Is the copying file by RealAnime to its temp directory is so necessary?

[Sirber]

It was usefull when my files were on LAN drives. 10% encoding speed :)

In next release, I will copy it only if the file is under 400MB.

[DeathTheSheep]

Copy it only if the file is under 400MB.
Ah, that's a good plan indeed. :D

[vanger]

It was usefull when my files were on LAN drives. 10% encoding speed :)
Copying of 5Gb file from one folder to another on the same partition is too slow for me.


In next release, I will copy it only if the file is under 400MB.
That's would be cool! :)

And one another qustion:
Why are you using such settings (368kbps for video for example)? Could you explain? Why not 400 or 300?
Are there some tests of quality maybe?

[LAIN]

And one another qustion:
Why are you using such settings (368kbps for video for example)? Could you explain? Why not 400 or 300?
Are there some tests of quality maybe?

368 is use to be able to have 400kbps at the end

video(368) + audio(32) = 400kbps
there is also video(436) + audio (64) = 500 kbps


LAIN

[killerhex]

i use the 368vid+32aud and the quality is great

[vanger]

i use the 368vid+32aud and the quality is great
Can you post screenshots of your input and output videos?

[killerhex]

hol on give me a min


screenshots encoded with RV10 368kbps[video]+64kbps[audio]

[Sirber]

x264 is better than rv10 at 368kbps ;)

[Eretria-chan]

It was usefull when my files were on LAN drives. 10% encoding speed :)

In next release, I will copy it only if the file is under 400MB.
Why copy the file at all, unless the source drive is slower than the temp drive, and it is slow enough to harm speed?

[Sirber]

ok ok then :devil:

I will compare RealAnime's drive with source drive and copy if they differ (if bellow 400MB).

Happy? :D

[Eretria-chan]

Now THAT sounds nice =)

[ggab]

yes! very nice :)


thanks, and we will be waiting for next release ;)

[Sirber]

hey for the resize filters in realanime can you add more resolution for the final

this are resolutions i used b4 with ermp i was wondering if you can add them to the final version of RA4

640x360
700x400
704x396Added.

[edit]

If I don't any more request or juicy bug report I will release 4.0 :devil:

[Sirber]

I made the patch for the copy in temp folder:
// Copy to temp
AssignFile(myFile, setting.source);
FileMode := 0; {Set file access to read only }
Reset(myFile);
bCopy := false;
if (FileSize(myFile) < 400000) then
if (ExtractFileDrive(setting.source) <> ExtractFileDrive(setting.dir_temp)) then
bCopy := true; // Fain enough
CloseFile(myFile);

if (bCopy) then
begin
oFileCopy := TFileCopy.Create(nil);
oFileCopy.FileSource := setting.source;
setting.source_copy := setting.dir_temp + 'source.avi';
oFileCopy.FileDestination := setting.source_copy;
oFileCopy.CopyFile;
oFileCopy.Free;
end
else
setting.source_copy := setting.source;

AnalyzeAVI();

[LAIN]

i'v found a bug in the dev source.

when encoding with x264 + aac v2 and merging in mkv file it merge source and encoded file...

i'll take a look after finishing few test.


LAIN

[Sirber]

:logfile: :script: :thanks:

[vanger]

Happy? :D
Yes! :D

How can I add my custom filter to avisynth script?
Only write myself
LoadPlugin ("plugin.dll")
in the edit window of Avisynth tab?
Or you can make, for example, that the program could load all plugins in "RealAnime 4\avs" directory? Or you can make a dialog for choosing necessary plugins?

[killerhex]

can you add 5.1 encoding support to the RA 4final

[CLS]

Sorry...but is there a guide for your 'little preacious' RealAnime LE? or did a missed something in this threat. *I used search...*

I want to test how x264 does compared to xvid, and your apps seems perfect, because it supports both. :P But I allready have problems with the input of the files. What kind of files are supported for input? and where can I configure x264?

*sorry but :stupid: .....thanks* :rolleyes:

[Sirber]

can you add 5.1 encoding support to the RA 4final5.1 is planned for 4.1. It will require some code change that can be unstable.
Sorry...but is there a guide for your 'little preacious' RealAnime LE? or did a missed something in this threat. *I used search...*The guide for sexy RealAnime 4 will be released at the same time as final 4.0. It will be in HTML and avalible online on my sexy website :)

[Yod4z]

it's possible to define an option to do something (shutdown, do nothing...) when the total batch is done or when the first batch is done or after all the batch.
I like to have an new option, like shutdown, "execute an command line". For exemple i want realanime to upload the file when compression is done to my FTP, if there an option to execute an command line i can use my FTP client in commd line mode to upload the file.

[Sirber]

it's possible to define an option to do something (shutdown, do nothing...) when the total batch is done or when the first batch is done or after all the batch.When no file is left the "After encoding" action will be executed.
I like to have an new option, like shutdown, "execute an command line". For exemple i want realanime to upload the file when compression is done to my FTP, if there an option to execute an command line i can use my FTP client in commd line mode to upload the file.hum... yeah it can be done easy. Just don't use RealAnime as a trojan horse :devil:

[ggab]

i guess i have comment this one...

- option to BYPASS (jump) the audio encoding process (only .MKV video file)
(to gain speed in several video quality tests, avoiding re-encoding and reduce disk space when the KEEP original audio source file is cheked)

bye

[Sirber]

Can you explain more? With a step by step "how you want it"?

[Yod4z]

hum... yeah it can be done easy. Just don't use RealAnime as a trojan horse

:D is for that is for my job to no lose of time ;). Big thanks :D

[vanger]

How can I add my custom filter to avisynth script?
Only write myself
LoadPlugin ("plugin.dll")
in the edit window of Avisynth tab?
Or you can make, for example, that the program could load all plugins in "RealAnime 4\avs" directory? Or you can make a dialog for choosing necessary plugins?

My message was invisible? :confused:

[Sirber]

In the filtering tab just add your things:

LoadPlugin ("plugin.dll")
MyFunction()

[killerhex]

can you wmv input i want to encode some wmv files they are about 160mb

[Sirber]

BeSweet is not compatible with WMA, nor my extracting tools.

But, the source code is there if you want to implement it!

svn://svn.detritus.qc.ca/detritusRealAnimeLE

[killerhex]

then can you add AC3 output

[Sirber]

Why? Isn't AC3 against the laws of "small filesize" and "low bitrate"?

[killerhex]

oh yeah sry i never heard of 64kbps ac3 audio

in the mp3 output on the prog does 64kbps mp3 sound good

[Sirber]

IIRC 64kbps MP3 is 22kHz...

but if you really want AC3 it will start at 192kbps up to 768 :)

[CLS]

The guide for sexy RealAnime 4 will be released at the same time as final 4.0. It will be in HTML and avalible online on my sexy website :)

Thanks....I will look at your sexy website for sure! :thanks: *H.N.Y.*

[killerhex]

i was wondering which sharpen is better

MSsharpen
aWarpSharp
or aSharp

which is better resize

bicubi
lanczos3 or 4
bilinear or point

which of this are good to resize to 320x240 and 512x384

[Sirber]

lanczos3 or 4 > bicubic > bilinear > point in the sharpness area

about sharpers, they all act differently.
mSharpen: http://neuron2.net/msharpen/msharpen.html
aWarpSharp sharpen the whole frame
aSharp try to detect edge and sharp them whitout sharpening the blocks

Your best options is to test them all and use the one you like most ;)

[spinstate]

hmm... so aSharp is similiar to UnSharp mask sharpening?

[Sirber]

I dunno... sorry :(

[ggab]

i guess i have comment this one...

- option to BYPASS (jump) the audio encoding process (only .MKV video file)
(to gain speed in several video quality tests, avoiding re-encoding and reduce disk space when the KEEP original audio source file is cheked)

bye
just

for example Naruto Episode 100.avi ("standard" xvid & mp3)

i wanna have an option in RA to disable the audio output.
Resulting in a MKV file (the container) with only a video track (the video is encoded in x264) and no audio at all :)

note: Thus, when u play the encoded file, u will not heard anything :P Just the video.