RealAnime 4 - General Questions and Troubleshooting Thread

[BoostAddict]

Hey Sirber, I would love to use x264 but I can't because I stream my anime through XBMC (Xbox Media Center) and x264/h264 (I don't know the difference) makes it lag

but I found sharktooth's profile http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=101813
and this post right here http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=761466#post761466

and it doesn't lag at all

I was wondering if it's possible that you could use those settings for one of your profiles
If possible it would be really great and I'd appreciate it alot!

Keep up the good work

Thanks

[Sirber]

"Normal" profil has been made for med-end PC playback, not 700MHz celeron ;)

a commandline would be more usefull than some megui profiles if you want me to add a xbox profile.

[Sirber]

It's less "customizable" but anyway v4.0 supports AVS as input. (not RC3)Seems RC3 has AVS input.

[BoostAddict]

"Normal" profil has been made for med-end PC playback, not 700MHz celeron ;)

a commandline would be more usefull than some megui profiles if you want me to add a xbox profile.

how about an "Xbox" profile, like you do for ipod or psp :thanks: :o

EDIT just read your second line, i'll try looking for a commandline

Here's the commandline taken from megui-x264 show commandline that works for xbox

C:\Program Files\x264\x264.exe --pass 2 --bitrate 1000 --stats ".stats" --bframes 2 --b-rdo --nf --no-cabac --subme 6 --analyse p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,p4x4 --qpmin 18 --qcomp 0.3 --me umh --progress --no-psnr --output "" ""

[Sirber]

how about an "Xbox" profile, like you do for ipod or psp :thanks: :o

EDIT just read your second line, i'll try looking for a commandline

Here's the commandline taken from megui-x264 show commandline that works for xbox

C:\Program Files\x264\x264.exe --pass 2 --bitrate 1000 --stats ".stats" --bframes 2 --b-rdo --nf --no-cabac --subme 6 --analyse p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,p4x4 --qpmin 18 --qcomp 0.3 --me umh --progress --no-psnr --output "" ""
Alright! Gonna add one. Looks like iPod but with more rez :)

[BoostAddict]

:bowdown: you the man!!!

[bob0r]

In fact, that xbox profile is WAY OUT TO DATE.
The latest XBMC i used worked fine with almost all features, except CQM.

For example my latest encode x264.429.cbs_csi_hdtv.sample.624x352.mp4

x264 --progress --pass 1 --bframes 16 --me dia --ref 1 --subme 1 --no-fast-pskip --filter -3:-3 --analyse none --output NUL cap.avs
x264 --progress --pass 2 --bitrate 528 --bframes 16 --b-pyramid --b-rdo --weightb --ref 16 --mixed-refs --trellis 1 --me umh --bime --subme 6 --8x8dct --no-fast-pskip --filter -3:-3 --analyse all --output x264.mp4 cap.avs

(bitrate 1024 runs fine too)

Runs very smooth on my xbox, using: XBMC.2006.0119

Xbox mostly has problems with high resolutions (like any PC :p)

So for xbox, there is no real profile needed, well maybe disable CQM only, but thats not on by default anyway.

[Sirber]

@bobor

Then, Normal profile should do. Should I force a rez for xbox (like I do with iPod / PSP)? Like 640x480, with black bars if it's 16:9 (displayed 640x480)?

[bob0r]

@Sirber

Nop

People who want xbox encodes, just should update to latest XBMC and figure their own wanted res, just like on your PC.

[Sirber]

ok!

Another job well done ;)

[BoostAddict]

Dang I'll try updating

I always thought that if you don't have problems with a certain version, you really shouldn't update
and i also thought the xbox processor would never be able to handle h/x264

[Sirber]

Day by day, x264 decoding is faster :)

[Kostarum Rex Persia]

@ Sirber

That's really good news. About newest AAC+ V2 encoder from Winamp 5.2 beta, do you plan to use that codec when Winamp 5.2 final came out?

[Xicor]

I tried using x264 for nth pass encoding, but the encoding is really slow (4fps! per pass)

I run on a dual core 2-Intel Pentium 4, 3201MHz. So as you can see my PC is up to date. Is this normal for x264, because this was my first time using it?

[Sirber]

I assume you used "High quality". I get ~2FPS on my 3000+ :)
Best use 3-pass @ Medium, and you can add trellis in the Advanced tab. You should get around 12FPS.

[damrod]

and 12 fps with x264 is great !!
:-p

[Xicor]

In total it comes around to 7 hours for a 24-minute encode. It's not that bad I guess, since the results are pretty good:cool:

[Sirber]

Which settings?

[damrod]

long time settings ? :p

[Veterinar]

Hi all.

I tested RealAnime on my material quite a bit. Simple using works well. Now I want to go further. I discovered some filters on 'Video Filtering' page along with some presets. The question is what to choose.

What filters and what presets worth most?

[Sirber]

Hi!

Best not filter. You filter only if your source is bad. Like blury, squary, too small, too big, etc. You can always press "Preview" and see what your filtering do. Also, filtering takes CPU and make the encode slower :)

[DnA]

What about the MPEG and M2V containers support? I tried to convert but MPEG files converting gives error #57 in BeSweet and M2V can not be dragged into the RealAnime?
Otherwise the GUI is cool :)

[Sirber]

can you post the "info" of your mpeg? It'S in the rightclick menu in the file list. About M2V, you need to use DGIndex on it like every MPEG2 source.

[killerhex]

can real anime encode this file

trea : 1
Count of text stream : 1
Count of chapter str : 0
Count of image strea : 0
Complete name : [gg]_MS_igLoo_01_(h264)_[0896E2BB
Folder name : MS Igloo
File name : [gg]_MS_igLoo_01_(h264)_[0896E2BB].mkv
File extension : mkv
File size : 367011133
File size : 350 MiB
File size : 350 MiB
File size : 350 MiB
File size : 350 MiB
File size : 350.0 MiB
Format : Matroska
Format : Matroska
Format/Url : http://www.matroska.org
Format/Extensions : MKV MKA MKS
Overal BitRate : 1748038
Overal BitRate : 1748 KBps
PlayTime : 1679648.000
PlayTime : 27mn 59s
PlayTime : 27mn 59s 648ms
PlayTime : 27mn 59s
PlayTime : 00:27:59.648
Title : [gg] MS IGLOO - 01
Writing application : mkvmerge v1.6.5 ('Watcher Of The Skies') built on Dec 7 2005 18:53:53
Writing library : libebml v0.7.6 + libmatroska v0.8.0
Codecs Video : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Audio codecs : AC3
Audio_Language_List : Japanese
Text codecs : ASS
Text_Language_List : English
Date : UTC 2006-01-19 00:55:26

Video #0
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Video
StreamKindID : 0
ID : 1
UniqueID : 774563735
Title : MS IGLOO - 01 [H264]
Codec : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Codec : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Width : 704
Height : 480
Aspect ratio : 1.467
Aspect ratio : 4/3
Language : jpn

Audio #0
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Audio
StreamKindID : 0
ID : 2
UniqueID : 3760010908
Title : Japanese Audio [5.1 AC3]
Codec : A_AC3
Codec : AC3
Codec/Info : Dolby AC3
Language : ja
Language : Japanese

Text #0
Count : 170
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Text
StreamKindID : 0

[Sirber]

@killerhex

yes. did you try it?

[Sirber]

Final version is on it's way. We are currently finishing the needed automatic fitlering for handeled devices and making tests to be sure everything is working "nikel ;)".

Final package should be 20MB as advertized. I mighe remove avisynth, ffdshow and helix codecs and make them download "from the web". We would save aound 6MB.

[BoostAddict]

hmm having my own ffdshow and helix codecs won't mess things up will it?

i didnt know (i didnt read, my fault) realanime came with its own ffdshow and helix codecs

maybe that's why i see 2 ffdshow icons in my system tray
but that wouldn't effect my encodes in any way will it?

[Sirber]

No problem having your own helix and ffdshow. I bundle them to be sure you have them. New installer is 14MB. :D

[BoostAddict]

No problem having your own helix and ffdshow. I bundle them to be sure you have them. New installer is 14MB. :D


looking forward to it :D great work so far
absolutely love this program

[DnA]

can you post the "info" of your mpeg? It'S in the rightclick menu in the file list.

Hi again, here is the MPEG information. I have also several other examples if you need.
I hope this helps.

General
Count : 169
Kind of stream : General
Count of video strea : 1
Count of audio strea : 1
Count of text stream : 0
Count of chapter str : 0
Count of image strea : 0
Complete name : D:\TEMP\Video.mpg
Folder name : D:\TEMP
File name : Video.mpg
File extension : mpg
File size : 43038156
File size : 41.0 MiB
File size : 41 MiB
File size : 41 MiB
File size : 41.0 MiB
File size : 41.04 MiB
Format : MPEG1
Format : MPEG 1 multiplexer
Format/Extensions : M1S MPEG MPG MPE MPGX MPM
Overal BitRate : 1623070
Overal BitRate : 1623 KBps
PlayTime : 212132
PlayTime : 3mn 32s
PlayTime : 3mn 32s 132ms
PlayTime : 3mn 32s
PlayTime : 00:03:32.132
Codecs Video : MPEG Video 1
Audio codecs : MPEG Audio 1 layer 2

Video #0
Count : 35
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Video
StreamKindID : 0
Codec : MPV1
Codec : MPEG Video 1
Bit rate : 1280000
Bit rate : 1280 KBps
BitRate/Mode : CBR
Width : 352
Height : 240
Aspect ratio : 1.606
Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 29.970
Frame rate : 29.97
FrameCount : 6363
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.506
Delay : 0

Audio #0
Count : 34
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Audio
StreamKindID : 0
Codec : MPA1/2
Codec : MPEG Audio 1 layer 2
Bit rate : 320000
Bit rate : 320 KBps
Channels : 2
Channels : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44100
Sampling rate : 44 KHz
Delay : 0
Video0 delay : 0

About M2V, you need to use DGIndex on it like every MPEG2 source.

Thanks. I think I found the way to encode them (using DGIndex) :)

[Eretria-chan]

All the components that are bundled with ra, where are they stored in the cvs? The output folder? Any other components that it uses that are not in there?
I simply wish to zip each of the components individually.

[Sirber]

@DnA

What was your settings for MPEG? Can I have the source?

@Eretria-chan

They are all on the SVN in output folder.

[Eretria-chan]

So the sub-folders in the output folder is all the components that ra needs?
No, that can't be right...
I see the bin folder contains a lot of components. I also see mplayer in there.
But I don't see ffdshow nor helix codecs. Were they removed from the cvs from some time ago?
I can't pick together each of the components. Are each component in the bin folder stand-alone or part of some application? Does an application consist of two or more of those files? Confusing!

[Sirber]

ffdshow, avisynth and helix codec are not on the SVN.
the only "component" avalible are producer and besweet. The rest is just DLLs and EXEs in bin/ and avs/

also, update your copy ;)

[Eretria-chan]

Are these exes and dlls significant? Do they belong to a specific app?
Zipping and uploading all these files will result in a lot of wasted space (hence a lot more for the end user to download). Therefore, I shall try to package them in the components they belong to.

Like the files in the avs directory are probably filters. So they basically belong to the main app?

[Sirber]

the DLLs are needed for filtering, you can zip them together. You can make a ZIP too of the EXEs from bin/

In any case the user need all those things :)

[Eretria-chan]

That's 5.58 mb at max 7zip compression >_<
This is getting to be a pain...
But there is a solution, yet! Upgrade! I shall experiment with that instead...

[DnA]

You can try with this video: http://www.pangolin.com/images/video/CLOCK_3.mpg

P.S. BTW I can still use AviSynth for source reading.

[Sirber]

You can try with this video: http://www.pangolin.com/images/video/CLOCK_3.mpg

P.S. BTW I can still use AviSynth for source reading.Better me to fix it. Using AVS will make the same problem. RealAnime use AVISynth to read MPEG :)

[Sirber]

You can find a preview of the guide here: http://www.detritus.qc.ca/#support

It's incomplete. Comments are welcome though :)

[DnA]

I use
mpegsource("D:\TMP\video.mpg")
but thus the audio is not found.

Otherwise I agree that the x264 + aacPlus v2 encoder from CT in MP4 container is the best video solution ;)

[Sirber]

mpegsource is better than directshowsource for MPEG?

[DnA]

With DirectShowSource I get this "Encoder error#57 (BeSweet)" message. Hmm...:confused:

[Sirber]

Does it work with moegsource? Maybe you get Error 57 coz the source is 32kHz. RealAnime is supposed to upmix it to 44kHz.

[DnA]

With mpegsource only the video is processed, no audio output. With DirectShowSource the status bar displays the error message and no output is written at all.

[Sirber]

When using RealAnime on it, in the temp folder, what are the specs of the produced .wav?

[DnA]

This is the information about the CLOCK_3.mpg file (no AviSynth script used, the MPEG file is dragged on RA). RealAnime creates nothing when I press the "Start" button. (no.wav file, no .mp4 file) RA gives only the error message in status bar.

And if I try to make a Preview (Settings->Video Preview) the application crashes ("Access violation" error message).
Another issue - the RealAnime drops the audio tracks of .AVI files. The output file is video only. :(

General
Count : 169
Kind of stream : General
Count of video strea : 1
Count of audio strea : 1
Count of text stream : 0
Count of chapter str : 0
Count of image strea : 0
Complete name : D:\TEMP\CLOCK_3.mpg
Folder name : D:\TEMP
File name : CLOCK_3.mpg
File extension : mpg
File size : 3786768
File size : 3.61 MiB
File size : 3698 KiB
File size : 3.6 MiB
File size : 3.61 MiB
File size : 3.611 MiB
Format : MPEG1
Format : MPEG 1 multiplexer
Format/Extensions : M1S MPEG MPG MPE MPGX MPM
Overal BitRate : 214967
Overal BitRate : 215 KBps
PlayTime : 140924
PlayTime : 2mn 20s
PlayTime : 2mn 20s 924ms
PlayTime : 2mn 20s
PlayTime : 00:02:20.924
Codecs Video : MPEG Video 1
Audio codecs : MPEG Audio 1 layer 2

Video #0
Count : 35
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Video
StreamKindID : 0
Codec : MPV1
Codec : MPEG Video 1
Bit rate : 161200
Bit rate : 161 KBps
BitRate/Mode : CBR
Width : 160
Height : 112
Aspect ratio : 1.429
Aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate : 29.970
Frame rate : 29.97
FrameCount : 4227
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.300
Delay : 0

Audio #0
Count : 34
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Audio
StreamKindID : 0
Codec : MPA1/2
Codec : MPEG Audio 1 layer 2
Bit rate : 48000
Bit rate : 48 KBps
Channels : 1
Channels : 1 channel
Sampling rate : 44100
Sampling rate : 44 KHz
Delay : 0
Video0 delay : 0

I hope this helps.

[Sirber]

RealAnime currently can't handle mono streams from MPEG or other sources that goes in via AVS.

also, RealAnime can't "don't encode audio" from AVI. What are your settings for the AVI that has output video only?

[DnA]

Sorry, with AVI everything works fine, my mistake. I was confiused, because in Preview mplayer.exe displays "Audio: no sound".

[Sirber]

@RealAnime Devs

Could we put some efforts to finish it? It'd be nice to release it ASAP :)

What is missing or incomplete:
* Automatic filtering for handled profiles
* XML (Save/Load) for filtering
* Keep audio or sub track by it's number
* Guide
* Testing ;)