RealAnime 4 - General Questions and Troubleshooting Thread

[killerhex]

yes for dvdrip so i can make them smaller i have a lot of dvd rips or what profile would you recommend to make dvdrip smaller and in good quality

[Sirber]

I will have in 4.1 a way to manage DVD and it will use the profil you asked for, nmormal (PC), iPod, etc.

[killerhex]

does real anime encode to MPEG4 SP

[Sirber]

Does "xvid" sounds any bell? Avalible only in PowerPack! but it's experimenatl.

[edit]

Best you read the first post to learn the features of RealAnime.

[Sirber]

The new filtering tab so far...

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/3496/profil7kd.th.jpg (http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?image=profil7kd.jpg)

You can hand config more rez and FPS.

[ggab]

it is looking very good ;)

go for it mannnn :D


PS: cool ^_^

[damrod]

for the psp profile we will have to decide : 1 or many different profiles ??
meaning xvid or x264 for video codec?
it depends of the firmware of the psp

btw in cas of the psp profile..resize/crop/fps will be automatic (in firmware 2.6 psp can handle 24fps, not only 30fps...but not 25fps...argggg)

[Sirber]

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/6071/profil2ev.jpg

:confused:

[Sirber]

@damrod

There will be 1 profile for PSP where you can choose xvid or x264. Also, the profile is free to set filtering (GUI), then the user is free to change them.

[garbii]

I added RMVB, ASF, WMV as supported input.

That's a very nice feature :) ... Aspacially RMVB input is highly apraciated :)

As for the downloads ... Hope u do not mind these increase?
I advertised a bit your software on some anime sites :P

[Sirber]

That's a very nice feature :) ... Aspacially RMVB input is highly apraciated :)

As for the downloads ... Hope u do not mind these increase?
I advertised a bit your software on some anime sites :PThe files itself are hosted on a mirror, so my site is always #1. Thanks for the advertisement! :D

[Yod4z]

I'm working on a "Profile" thing:

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/8798/profil4sk.th.jpg (http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=profil4sk.jpg)

So it will be more user friendly and more effective. When you select a profil, codecs that can be used with it will be removed, same for containers. Filtering will be set too.
and the GP2x ? :D

[Sirber]

huh ?

[Eretria-chan]

That's a very nice feature :) ... Aspacially RMVB input is highly apraciated :)

As for the downloads ... Hope u do not mind these increase?
I advertised a bit your software on some anime sites :P
The files are hosted on my mirror, but hey - I have bandwidth to spare. Plenty, in fact, so as long as Sirber remains happy so will I! :sly:

[Sirber]

Well, I'm not happy today. My main and dev linux server at work crashed. "/dev/hda1 not found", then kernel panic. never reboot linux servers, NEVER :devil:

[garbii]

Well .... It wasn't some kind of big advertisment .... Just somebody asked in topic about encoding rmvb from mkv .... I think i gave them a good solution : realanime link :)
.............

If i manage to this today I will see how h264 lib works under linux... it's a beta but I just found that avidemux (a linux program similliar to Virtualdub) can use experimentaly x264 .... Though they writed on forum that the results are worst then xvid :(

[Sirber]

Well, it's experimental (RMVB to MKV). I only tested if the encoding worked, I did not even finish first pass.

[garbii]

Well, it's experimental (RMVB to MKV). I only tested if the encoding worked, I did not even finish first pass.

Heh ... I meant the other way mkv to rmvb .... Most people get furious becouse they loose subs or get the english dub :)
............
as for avidemux ... well it wasn't good :( ...

[Sirber]

Well... mkv to rmvb, if there are too much audio or sub track, it will output a mkv :)

[damrod]

else you restrict only one audio and no sub ;-)
or using textsub/vobsub directly in an avs file ?

not always synvhro !!

[Eretria-chan]

Well, I'm not happy today. My main and dev linux server at work crashed. "/dev/hda1 not found", then kernel panic. never reboot linux servers, NEVER :devil:
Now, now... put that devil away :sly: We all know Operating Systems crashes from time to time :o

[Inventive Software]

Yeah, but not Linux. Or at least not very often. ;)

[Eretria-chan]

They all do... sometime.

[nm]

Well, I'm not happy today. My main and dev linux server at work crashed. "/dev/hda1 not found", then kernel panic. never reboot linux servers, NEVER :devil:
Sounds like misconfiguration (in /etc/fstab, or there was a kernel update and you don't have the correct IDE drivers anymore), or perhaps a hardware failure.

[Sirber]

I was still using and automounting devfs (/dev). The new gentoo updates was using udev so it was conflicting.

[nm]

If i manage to this today I will see how h264 lib works under linux... it's a beta but I just found that avidemux (a linux program similliar to Virtualdub) can use experimentaly x264 .... Though they writed on forum that the results are worst then xvid :(
What are you actually looking for? How to use x264 in Linux, an encoding GUI or an editor? Personally I just use mencoder, which supports transcoding from almost any source to H.264 through newest self-built x264. I use it through scripts and command line, but there are some frontends (http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/projects.html) (GUIs) that run on Linux and may even support x264 options, although I haven't tried them. Also Handbrake (http://handbrake.m0k.org/) may be useful.

Avidemux looks promising, but I've never tried it? What problems did you have?

[nmatos]

Hi Sirber!
Now my RA4(3) with(RPP) is working wonderfully well.
You are "the man".
Thank you very, very much.

[XH42]

Sirber, it appears that the reason why it did not show the info for the mkv file is because it had chinese characters in it. Is it possible to have unicode or some kind of other language support for it (of course, once I change the name of the file to English it worked fine)?

[Sirber]

hum...

What does RealAnime do when it doesn't work?

[garbii]

What are you actually looking for? How to use x264 in Linux, an encoding GUI or an editor? Personally I just use mencoder, which supports transcoding from almost any source to H.264 through newest self-built x264. I use it through scripts and command line, but there are some frontends (http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/projects.html) (GUIs) that run on Linux and may even support x264 options, although I haven't tried them. Also Handbrake (http://handbrake.m0k.org/) may be useful.

Avidemux looks promising, but I've never tried it? What problems did you have?
2 pass h264 not working quite well.. Devs of avidemux say the full support will be in next realese 2.2 ......
I also had some problems with compilation of avidemux , but that's another story ;)


What I'm looking for? Basicly I wanted sth to encode rmvb ... as this is a format most my media are, and I used it in windows.

Unfortunately realproducer for linux can encode only from uncompressed files :( This seriously sucks.

As for mencoder .. I used it (with a GUI as I prefer using gui then cli) It was called gmencoder ... It was a very good software, but unfortunately with old codecks.

Is h264 a feature in newest mencoder? Do u have to compile it from source to have h264 enabled or is a pre-made distro package also good?

[Sirber]

file --> mencoder --> raw --> producer :)

[garbii]

file --> mencoder --> raw --> producer :)
= not enough diskspace ... frankly my hd is always full :)

[Sirber]

get a 320GB for $120 on best buy ;)

I'm at 780GB now :D

[nm]

What I'm looking for? Basicly I wanted sth to encode rmvb ... as this is a format most my media are, and I used it in windows.
So are you trying to encode TO rmvb or FROM rmvb to H.264?

As for mencoder .. I used it (with a GUI as I prefer using gui then cli) It was called gmencoder ... It was a very good software, but unfortunately with old codecks.
Yes, most of the frontends probably lack the most recent stuff that is available in MPlayer CVS. They also don't include x264 since it is external to the MPlayer source code tree and therefore not available in most Mencoder binary packages.

Is h264 a feature in newest mencoder? Do u have to compile it from source to have h264 enabled or is a pre-made distro package also good?
Mencoder has had x264 support at least since 2004, but you'll probably need to compile it yourself. That is not hard once you know what to do. Learning this stuff will open a lot of new possibilities, so IMO it is time well spent. Perhaps some binaries include x264 support too, so you could try them first. Run "mencoder -ovc help" in a terminal and see if the list of codecs includes x264.

[garbii]

So are you trying to encode TO rmvb or FROM rmvb to H.264?

Yes ...

Well I downloaded mencoder from marillat debian repo ... and it works with x264 :P

mencoder -ovc x264 -x264encopts bitrate=300 /home/valgaav/Anime/Midorinohibi/midori12.avi -o /home/valgaav/test.avi -oac mp3lame -lameopts mode=3 vbr=0:br=32

Am i doing this command in a good way?


Still I'm a lazy guy and would prefer a gui ... but none of them has h264 option just as u said.

As for compilation I know how to do it, I had compiled several programs, yet it takes time so I prefer to use packages whenever I can

[Sirber]

Please guys it's getting OT :)

[anne_so78]

RealAnime 4 PowerPack 4.0.0 RC3:
Playing RealAnime encoded *.mkv files in Media Player Classic while utilizing the "audio delay" function within MPC to find out how much delay is inherent within the files, I can tell that it is about 130ms. Configuring RealAnime to encode with a delay of -130ms results in properly synchronized matroska files. However, this is not the case with *.mp4 files, as files encoded into this container format need only a -40ms to correct the delay, and sych-errors are much harder to notice in uncorrected files (when compared to its matroska counterparts). How exactly does RealAnimes's delay function work? And, aren't all container formats supposed to respond identically to a single delay-value within RealAnime?

All of the above are specific only to AAC+ v2 encoding.

How low is "very very low"? (i.e- when exactly to use low bitrate matrix?)

Bug: Minimizing RealAnime and then re-opening through start-menu shortcut leads to the message "RealAnime is already running" and Real-Anime's tabs to cease functioning. Minimizing RealAnime and then re-opening from the system-tray restores the tab functionality.

Some suggestions: An option to disable audio normalization. A feature to edit and disable "Clip Text" (Currently it is "Encoded with : RealAnime 4 PowerPack 4.0.0 RC3"). It would be nice having RealAnime free from typographical, grammatical and other textual errors; do you welcome these kind of suggestions/corrections?

Although it is advised to switch off all post-processing, noise etc. in the decoder before encoding, I got better results encoding into "x264, no filtering, bitrate190" from an "xvid, bitrate386" source while having ffdshow's postprocessing switched on to "full, mplayer, accurate deblocking". However, this might be due to the source and encode being of low bitrate.

[XH42]

Sirber:
hum...

What does RealAnime do when it doesn't work?

It doesn't do anything, just gives me a empty window with no info in it.

[Sirber]

RealAnime 4 PowerPack 4.0.0 RC3:
Playing RealAnime encoded *.mkv files in Media Player Classic while utilizing the "audio delay" function within MPC to find out how much delay is inherent within the files, I can tell that it is about 130ms. Configuring RealAnime to encode with a delay of -130ms results in properly synchronized matroska files. However, this is not the case with *.mp4 files, as files encoded into this container format need only a -40ms to correct the delay, and sych-errors are much harder to notice in uncorrected files (when compared to its matroska counterparts). How exactly does RealAnimes's delay function work? And, aren't all container formats supposed to respond identically to a single delay-value within RealAnime?

All of the above are specific only to AAC+ v2 encoding.I think the delay is a container issue. Maybe if I add the flag "--audio-is-sbr" to matroska it would help. The delay is not noticable with most source. If you find it too "delayed", you can use the MKV gui to remerge it with a delay. No need of recoding :)
How low is "very very low"? (i.e- when exactly to use low bitrate matrix?)I'd say bellow 200kbps for 640x480@24 fps. I never used it since it's incompatible with most decoders.
Bug: Minimizing RealAnime and then re-opening through start-menu shortcut leads to the message "RealAnime is already running" and Real-Anime's tabs to cease functioning. Minimizing RealAnime and then re-opening from the system-tray restores the tab functionality.Yeah, RealAnime thinks it's still "minimised".

Some suggestions: An option to disable audio normalization. A feature to edit and disable "Clip Text" (Currently it is "Encoded with : RealAnime 4 PowerPack 4.0.0 RC3").Ok to the first one, not sure for the second.
It would be nice having RealAnime free from typographical, grammatical and other textual errors; do you welcome these kind of suggestions/corrections?Can you point me some? I'm french :)
Although it is advised to switch off all post-processing, noise etc. in the decoder before encoding, I got better results encoding into "x264, no filtering, bitrate190" from an "xvid, bitrate386" source while having ffdshow's postprocessing switched on to "full, mplayer, accurate deblocking". However, this might be due to the source and encode being of low bitrate.Post processing "wash" the source, so it's easier on the encoder.

[Sirber]

I added a blog to my website:

http://my.opera.com/sirber/blog/

It will replace the boring news on my site.

[ggab]

Post processing "wash" the source, so it's easier on the encoder.
so, is it recommended to have postprocessing switched on to "full, mplayer, accurate deblocking" for all sources, or which ones?

* what is full?

[vanger]

And my small wish list :D :
1. Nothing to do (exit program or turn of pc) if error occurred.
2. Add a Hibernate in to do list.
3. Show dialog after encoding (for example: "Do you want to turn off pc (or hibernate)?" buttons "Yes"/"No" and timer for 10 seconds).

;)

[ggab]

what Trellis option does RA use, when it is checked in advanced tab?

--trellis 1
or --trellis 2 ?

if the answer is 1, does mean that if a select Medium or High Preset, it will use just --trellis 1 with both ones, no?



can u post the profiles' code of current RC3?

// Presets
case setting.video_quality of
0: // Low
begin
strOptions := strOptions + 'xxxxxxxxxx';
..........
end;
1: // Med
2: // High


thanks :)

edit: cases from 0 to 2

[ggab]

what happen here? i have just encoded this XVID & MP3 ichigo clip, with NOT encode audio, and i got 2 video tracks!

if a set encode audio, the file is right, 1 video and 1 audio track

original 12secs xvid avi with mp3 128kbps: 3.3mb
mkv, x264-500kb +acc32: 1mb
mkv, x264-500kb +mp3128(default): 4mb ¿!?!

General
Count : 169
Kind of stream : General
Count of video strea : 2
Count of audio strea : 1
Count of text stream : 0
Count of chapter str : 0
Count of image strea : 0
Complete name : C:\Program Files\RealAnime 40rc3\output\Ichigo 100% - Promo h700 T f-1.mkv
Folder name : C:\Program Files\RealAnime 40rc3\output
File name : Ichigo 100% - Promo h700 T f-1.mkv
File extension : mkv
File size : 4827137
File size : 4.60 MiB
File size : 5 MiB
File size : 4.6 MiB
File size : 4.60 MiB
File size : 4.604 MiB
Format : Matroska
Format : Matroska
Format/Url : http://www.matroska.org
Format/Extensions : MKV MKA MKS
Overal BitRate : 2600828
Overal BitRate : 2601 KBps
PlayTime : 14848.000
PlayTime : 14s 848ms
PlayTime : 14s 848ms
PlayTime : 14s 848ms
PlayTime : 00:00:14.848
Title : Encoded with : RealAnime 4 PowerPack 4.0.0 RC3
Writing application : mkvmerge v1.6.5 ('Watcher Of The Skies') built on Dec 7 2005 18:53:53
Writing library : libebml v0.7.6 + libmatroska v0.8.0
Codecs Video : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC / XviD
Video_Language_List : /
Audio codecs : MPEG1/2 L3
Audio_Language_List : und
Date : UTC 2006-02-04 08:40:57

Video #0
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 2
Kind of stream : Video
StreamKindID : 0
ID : 1
UniqueID : 1
Codec : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Codec : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Width : 640
Height : 480
Aspect ratio : 1.333
Aspect ratio : 4/3
Language : eng

Video #1
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 2
Kind of stream : Video
StreamKindID : 1
ID : 2
UniqueID : 1511876258
Codec : XVID
Codec : XviD
Codec/Info : XviD project
Codec/Url : http://www.koepi.org/xvid.shtml
Width : 640
Height : 480
Aspect ratio : 1.333
Aspect ratio : 4/3
Resolution : 24
Language : jpn

Audio #0
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Audio
StreamKindID : 0
ID : 3
UniqueID : 2165944475
Codec : A_MPEG/L3
Codec : MPEG1/2 L3
Codec/Info : MPEG1 or 2 Audio Layer 3
Codec/Url : http://www.iis.fraunhofer.de/amm/index.html
Language : und
Language : und

[Sirber]

@ggab

I prefer not so use filtering (aka ffdshow) unless the source is really bad.

About the profiles, best get a SVN client and look in the code directly. Half of the settings aren't in the "quality profiles" and are general.

Xvid and AVC in the same MKV :D Nice! :D

@vanger

I'll look about that.

[Sirber]

IMO mplayer PP is less destructive and elss blury, but it can let out some blocks.

[anne_so78]

Why doesn't RA display ClearType text on ClearType enabled laptop screens? This would go a long way in improving the aesthetics of the program...

[Sirber]

I have no idea. Do you use XP themes?

[anne_so78]

I use "Olive Green" color scheme. No other special modifications have been made to my XP shell. Also, I use microsoft's powertoy "ClearType Tuner" to enable custom cleartyping on my laptop. Does cleartype in RA work for you?

[Sirber]

I'm using a good old 19" CRT monitor. I cannot help on that issue. Sorry :(