BD-Rebuilder, Feature Requests [Archive] - Page 8

PhilippeB

19th March 2010, 16:59

For years i have used 'VoB Blanked' to do my DVDs. What i like about this program is that i can keep the menus, and get rid of everything else (except the movie of course ;).

That would be a nice 'In between' option in BD-RB, not having to choose between a Full movie (unacceptable image quality - too much compression needed) and Movie only (Very nice, but still - it's a shame to loose theses nice HD menus).

Just being able to 'Blank' the video segments we don't want manually, and re-link the BD-Menu to itself when accessing it would do the trick.

Of course i have no knowledge of what it implies so don't want to make it sound too easy. Just a though.

:thanks:

deank

21st March 2010, 14:00

Until jdobbs implements it in BD-Rebuilder you can try/test multiAVCHD and blank all things not needed and then process the disc in BD-Rebuilder.

Discoboy

28th March 2010, 19:20

It don't think it works with AVISYNTH, but I'll try it.

Or use avs2yuv to pipe the videostream from the 32 bit avisynth to the 64 bit x264 in the same why RipBot264 does...

setarip_old

28th March 2010, 19:52

@deank

Hi!Until jdobbs implements it in BD-Rebuilder you can try/test multiAVCHD and blank all things not needed and then process the disc in BD-Rebuilder.Can that be done so as to preserve the original menu(s)?

deank

29th March 2010, 18:48

Yes, since January 2010. You even commented (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1361751#post1361751)it :)

Link #1 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1361598#post1361598)

Link #2 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=151925)

Dean

setarip_old

30th March 2010, 22:42

@deank

You'll get old too! - Would you believe I overlooked the opening sentence of the post I commented on?

jdobbs

2nd April 2010, 14:42

@deank

You'll get old too! - Would you believe I overlooked the opening sentence of the post I commented on? Hell, I can't even remember what forum I'm in right now. :confused: :)

mrickman

3rd April 2010, 15:54

I second this request

I third (or more) this request... :thanks:

jdobbs

3rd April 2010, 17:08

I third (or more) this request... :thanks: Wish I knew what it was, I might "fourth" it... :) I went back several pages and didn't see it.

Discoboy

3rd April 2010, 18:08

Wish I knew what it was, I might "fourth" it... :) I went back several pages and didn't see it.

Way back........ post #13:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1233988#post1233988

jdobbs

3rd April 2010, 18:10

Way back........ post #13:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1233988#post1233988 Request for retaining HD audio? You can do that now except where the output disc (BD-5/9) is too small for it. It's available on the SETUP dialog.

colinhunt

5th April 2010, 12:23

jdobbs

5th April 2010, 13:42

I've got a few DTS and Dolby demonstration discs that range from 9 to 14 gigabytes in size. I'd love to encode them for DVD9 while keeping original HD audio, but haven't figured out a way to do that with BD-RB. Sorry, but unfortunately most of the time the HD audio can be bigger than will fit on a DVD-9.

colinhunt

5th April 2010, 16:48

Sorry, but unfortunately most of the time the HD audio can be bigger than will fit on a DVD-9.
Instead of "most of the time" I'd say "in some cases"; I think most two-hour movies have an HD audio track between 2 and 4 gigabytes.

But that's neither here nor there. I'm just a bit frustrated not being able to compress a 10GB title onto a DVD-9 without losing HD audio; the audio's kinda the main point for Dolby and DTS demo discs. But yeah, such discs are quite rare and mostly free - once one pays to attend CES, IFA etc. :D

jdobbs

5th April 2010, 19:36

Instead of "most of the time" I'd say "in some cases"; I think most two-hour movies have an HD audio track between 2 and 4 gigabytes.

But that's neither here nor there. I'm just a bit frustrated not being able to compress a 10GB title onto a DVD-9 without losing HD audio; the audio's kinda the main point for Dolby and DTS demo discs. But yeah, such discs are quite rare and mostly free - once one pays to attend CES, IFA etc. :D And you truly think it is a good idea to use as much space for an audio track as the video? I'd certainly disagree.

I can see your point with the 10GB disc, but if I start programming for the exceptions I'll doing it for the next 20 years -- and allowing it for BD-5/9 will start a new bug thread bigger than this one. The average user just doesn't understand this kind of thing and it's better not to give them a landmine they have to avoid.

colinhunt

5th April 2010, 20:43

And you truly think it is a good idea to use as much space for an audio track as the video?
What? No, I'm absolutely not saying that! I was only saying that most HD audio tracks are nowhere close to 8GB, as a fact totally unrelated to BD-RB.
I most certainly wouldn't try to fit a two-hour movie on a DVD9 with HD audio. But 30 minutes of video and 4GB of HD audio, why not?

I can see your point with the 10GB disc, but if I start programming for the exceptions I'll doing it for the next 20 years
Absolutely. Which is why I mentioned such discs are quite rare, and therefore not worth your effort. I just brought it up because such discs do exist (yeah, rare). I'll think of another way around this; perhaps with Deank's multiAVCHD...

f362580

11th April 2010, 01:38

I wish I can see audio / subtitles tracks sizes in MBs to help me decide what tracks to keep.

jdobbs

11th April 2010, 02:50

I wish I can see audio / subtitles tracks sizes in MBs to help me decide what tracks to keep. I wish I could too. But I can't show that without scanning the source M2TS to find the size -- and that could put several minutes into the startup and again every time you make a selection. I think the only way I could do it accurately is to put an option somewhere to "Scan for sizes". You have to remember, though, that the program would have to scan up to 50GB to get all information.

There may be a way to scan a sample of each looking at the PTS, then make an estimate. There're a probably a lot of ways to be wrong doing that though. Hmmm... well at least you got me thinking about it. :)

f362580

11th April 2010, 20:58

jdobbs

11th April 2010, 21:23

Maybe I am wrong but with tools like MediaInfo you can get bitrate of AC3/DTS tracks instantly and then estimate final size knowing movie length.
Unfortunately for tracks with variable bitrate such as DTSMA it is not that easy. Ideally it'll be some form of background scaning while user sets other options. I know how to pull the bitrate from standard AC3, but I'd have to look around for docs on how to get it from DTS. I'm also not sure if I'd have to do something different for TrueHD, DTS Express, etc...

GaBBa-Gandalf

15th April 2010, 16:09

jdobbs

15th April 2010, 17:24

Hello...

my question...
Isn't it possible to keep the lossless hd-audio also for dvd-9 target or at least for custom (e.q. 12 gb) ?
25 GB are sometimes just to big....
Why can't the user decide what they want... :-p HD audio is just too big for a BD-9. But if you set a custom size of anything bigger (like 12GB) it will keep it now. The threshold is 8500 MB.

GaBBa-Gandalf

16th April 2010, 00:19

ahhh.. ok, i didn't know that. but thank u for that information ... i'll try it ;)

Capsbackup

16th April 2010, 02:24

Is HD audio, whether it is DTS HD Master or True HD, compliant for AVCHD? :confused:

jdobbs

16th April 2010, 04:39

Is HD audio, whether it is DTS HD Master or True HD, compliant for AVCHD? :confused: No. Only LPCM or AC-3 is compliant with AVCHD, and there are bitrate limits as well. But if you are writing to something larger than DVD-9 -- BD-RB assumes it isn't AVCHD.

Capsbackup

16th April 2010, 05:07

No. Only LPCM or AC-3 is compliant with AVCHD, and there are bitrate limits as well. But if you are writing to something larger than DVD-9 -- BD-RB assumes it isn't AVCHD.

Well, if the goal is to burn to BD9, DVD media, then isn't it going to be an AVCHD?
If these HD audio files are present, will it even play on standalone players?
Perhaps streaming or USB hard drive playback will work, but will burned to optical media work?:confused:

x400

16th April 2010, 06:40

im not sure if this was requested (OR if its even implemented teehee) but id like this to be able to re-encode or "shrink" just the special features and leave the film untouched (or cut them out even but retain the menus, etc)

if that feature is possible then excuse my post.. i guess i'll have to learn how to use the prog :D

jdobbs

16th April 2010, 13:20

Well, if the goal is to burn to BD9, DVD media, then isn't it going to be an AVCHD?
If these HD audio files are present, will it even play on standalone players?
Perhaps streaming or USB hard drive playback will work, but will burned to optical media work?:confused: But if it is greater than 8500MB (which is where it is allowed) -- you're not going to burn it to DVD, it's too big. So it doesn't have to be AVCHD format. BD-RB will use blu-ray formatting.

f362580

17th April 2010, 19:30

Is HD audio, whether it is DTS HD Master or True HD, compliant for AVCHD? :confused:

it is not, but ps3 supports it. Maybe some other BD players too.

jdobbs

17th April 2010, 20:24

it is not, but ps3 supports it. Maybe some other BD players too. My Sony players (S360 and S300) support it too -- but I still convert to AC3. You never know what player you may have next year.

f362580

18th April 2010, 00:44

My Sony players (S360 and S300) support it too -- but I still convert to AC3. You never know what player you may have next year.
Good point.
And it is not big problem at all as you can easily remux BD output from BR rebuilder with MultiAVCHD to AVCHD for USB media keeping all tracks.

rippn

27th April 2010, 22:52

Just curious if there is any update on the DTS Express muxing issue? I know in the past it was said it was planned, so just checking if there is any progress. Thanks.

user822

29th April 2010, 14:09

hi!

can you perhaps add a multiplier for the Bitrate of certain Streams?

for example i had a disc with one cam movie and 2 animation movies and i knew it can give the animation less bitrate and save it for the cam movie

would be helpful to include the human brain for weighting the Video Bitrate a little!

Greetings
user

tekmobile

2nd May 2010, 21:34

How hard would it be to include a preferred audio codec list for when the checkbox is selected to just keep one track because on some disc's the AC3 lossless is first and get's selected even when im wanting the HD Track.
:thanks:

jdobbs

2nd May 2010, 22:38

tekmobile

2nd May 2010, 23:14

But all you have to do is change it with a couple clicks on the streams list before encoding.

What about on seemless branched discs do you need to change every file and if you miss one will it auto change it or create a broken disc

jdobbs

3rd May 2010, 00:18

What about on seemless branched discs do you need to change every file and if you miss one will it auto change it or create a broken discGood point.

JoeH

10th May 2010, 16:51

There may be a way to scan a sample of each looking at the PTS, then make an estimate. There're a probably a lot of ways to be wrong doing that though. Hmmm... well at least you got me thinking about it. :)

I am really interested in this feature too. The interesting thing about this, is that it would allow BD_Rebuilder to actually have the option to only recode video when necessary to make it fit! That would be so fantastic! When not necessary, it just remuxes with tracks you are interested in.

This would be great - there have been so many times when I have used ClownBD first, hoping to make it under 23GB, only to find that I am just over by 1 or 2 GB. Then BD_Rebuilder. With this option, it's simple - always use BD_Rebuilder!

JoeH

10th May 2010, 16:53

It would be nice to be able to have a different "working" and "output" directly. That way if I decide to save the "working" files I don't end up with a mess.

bessmertni

13th May 2010, 07:16

Have you considered adding the Meta folder to movie only rip process? Its not a big deal but still kind of nice for those who have a ps3 or other player that can make use of it for displaying a thumbnail and title on the players interface. The contents are usually only a couple hundred kb. I usually copy the folder over after rip is done but it would be nice if bd rebuilder would do it.

RiddleRx

15th May 2010, 12:45

jdobbs

15th May 2010, 15:49

Hi

I don't know if anybody already asked for it but I think it would be usefull to have 3 paths. (source, working, destination)
Having only one path for encoding and multiplexing (working path), realy stresses the hard drive and also makes the process longer, because during the multiplexing the data read and write is on the same drive.

R.But since the multiplexing takes such a small percentage of the overall time -- it wouldn't even be significant (actually I know it isn't -- as I've tested it).

gamete

15th May 2010, 16:51

sorry for my bad English, I'm Italian

I wanted to know if in future versions of bdrebuilder will be 'added support for dual-core

jdobbs

15th May 2010, 17:45

sorry for my bad English, I'm Italian

I wanted to know if in future versions of bdrebuilder will be 'added support for dual-core It supports it now. X264 is already optimized for multiple cores.

gamete

15th May 2010, 19:11

It supports it now. X264 is already optimized for multiple cores.

but is it normal with avatar with dual-core 2.66 ghz 2gb ram xp gave us 20 hours with only movie and language only ITA dts ?

backup in BD25 in normal priority and high quality

1)there will be the possibility in the future could keep the menu + the film + language?

2)are you going to implement the compression ratio of information in the log?

thanks for the great work you do

jdobbs

15th May 2010, 19:45

but is it normal with avatar with dual-core 2.66 ghz 2gb ram xp gave us 20 hours with only movie and language only ITA dts ?

backup in BD25 in normal priority and high quality

1)there will be the possibility in the future could keep the menu + the film + language?

2)are you going to implement the compression ratio of information in the log?

thanks for the great work you do
I'm not sure how long your dual core should take -- but that sounds a little long. With that said -- you're talking about a lot more data (about 6x as many pixels) than what you might expect in a DVD backup. That would make a 6x time-to-encode reasonable.

1. Eventually.

2. I want to avoid that -- too many people think they know what would be a good compression ratio based upon their DVD experience... but with X264 and blu-ray it is completely different. I'm trying to avoid confusion.

gamete

15th May 2010, 19:53

I'm the first backup of a Bluray SORRY:helpful:

What do you mean with "Eventually"?

:thanks:

jdobbs

15th May 2010, 20:05

I'm the first backup of a Bluray SORRY:helpful:

What do you mean with "Eventually"?

:thanks: I'm still beta testing, there are a lot of features that will be added a little at a time. That's one of them.

BTW... blu-ray backup is pretty new. Almost everybody is a newbie. :) Even the "experienced" users were newbies not long ago.

RiddleRx

15th May 2010, 21:06

But since the multiplexing takes such a small percentage of the overall time -- it wouldn't even be significant (actually I know it isn't -- as I've tested it).

I admit that is true but what about with the hard drive stress? :)

JoeH

24th May 2010, 14:21

This little program here has output size estimation using BDInfo. Maybe this is what you would need to implement the same in BDRebuilder so it could just remux if rendering is not necessary:
http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=40349