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Lowpro
13th October 2014, 03:55
Ok. I added a hidden item called MENU_ROLLOVER that does the first one. I may even make it the default for the next release, we'll see. I'll look at the second request and see how hard it'll be to implement. I've been meaning to do it, but just haven't gotten around to it.
Excellent! Being able to wrap your selection from top to bottom or bottom to top would be awesome. Appreciate your willingness to look into the other item as well and at least I've got a way to accomplish the same end result though it would be far more preferable naturally to have the one file play "x" number of times rather than what I'm doing now.
brunchto
15th October 2014, 06:36
is it possible to have an alternate output with only the m2ts generated when you choose BD output.
after extraction from the iso, the generated m2ts for a movie only seems to work fine on my oppo103, even in 3D (i need to test it a little more by the way).
mparade
29th October 2014, 23:06
@jdobbs
Is it possible in BD-RB to apply the "audio encoding options" that were set under settings/setup dialogue to the mkv profiles located in alternate.txt? It would be great if these options would be available while making mkv movie-only encodes. I would prefer in my mkv movie only-encodes as well the settings which were set under "audio encoding options" to keeping the tracks intact.
Thank you in advance for your opinion.
gonca
29th October 2014, 23:13
is it possible to have an alternate output with only the m2ts generated when you choose BD output.
after extraction from the iso, the generated m2ts for a movie only seems to work fine on my oppo103, even in 3D (i need to test it a little more by the way).
Just keep the m2ts file and delete everything else.
Is it possible in BD-RB to apply the "audio encoding options" that were set under settings/setup dialogue to the mkv profiles located in alternate.txt? It would be great if these options would be available while making mkv movie-only encodes. I would prefer in my mkv movie only-encodes as well the settings which were set under "audio encoding options" to keeping the tracks intact.
Thank you in advance for your opinion.
Can be done by using a custom ALTERNATE OUTPUT profile
mparade
29th October 2014, 23:39
Just keep the m2ts file and delete everything else.
Can be done by using a custom ALTERNATE OUTPUT profile
and indeed..sorry before asking than testing. :thanks:
I could achieve what I wanted by using:
aBitrate=*
aType=0
Can you explain a bit what automatic (*) means?
What bitrate is it using for audio encoding automatically?
I assume it "uses" 640 kbit/s AC3 conversion on 5.1 & 7.1DTS/DTS HD tracks and 224 kbit/s on 2.0 DTS/DTS HD tracks and no reencoding at all (keeping the core) on the DD audio tracks with the bitrate under (e.g. 448 kbs) or equal to (Dolby True HD) that, right?
gonca
30th October 2014, 00:19
automatic is meant for DVD output, I believe. Bitrate would probably be 448 with AC3.
If you want audio tracks intact use aType=2, (for MKV and MP4 output).
If you want AC3 with a specific bitrate use aType=0
aBitrate=xxx where xxx is the bitrate you want
If aBitrate is less than 384 Then it will be down mixed to stereo
If you just want AC3=640 then enter aBitrate=640.
If you want, just tell me how you like to encode and I can help you create a preset.
jdobbs
30th October 2014, 15:46
Right, except "automatic" is for anything except iPod/iPad. It changes depending upon the type of output. Generally it would be 640Kbs for 5.1 AC3, unless you've chosen DVD output (in which case it would be 448Kbs).
mparade
30th October 2014, 20:05
Is it possible in an mkv container (like within a BD structure):
- keep the DTS core from DTS-HD tracks;
- keep the AC3 core from Dolby TRUE HD tracks;
Does "audio encoding options" have any impact on creating an mkv container or does it have it's own separated settings?
Your answers would be really appreciated.
mparade
30th October 2014, 20:23
automatic is meant for DVD output, I believe. Bitrate would probably be 448 with AC3.
If you want audio tracks intact use aType=2, (for MKV and MP4 output).
If you want AC3 with a specific bitrate use aType=0
aBitrate=xxx where xxx is the bitrate you want
If aBitrate is less than 384 Then it will be down mixed to stereo
If you just want AC3=640 then enter aBitrate=640.
If you want, just tell me how you like to encode and I can help you create a preset.
Thanks for your reply.
I am currently mostly making HEVC mkv containers (thanks to jdobbs for the HEVC implementation) from my Blu-rays, so it is now a common situation to have both an eng DTS-HD or Dolby True HD track + a hun DD 5.1 track with a bitrate of 640 kbit/s to be reencoded. Generally, I would keep the hun track as it is (which is 448 kbit/s or 640kbit/s on the BD) without reencoding and the same I would do with the 640 kbit/s AC3 core for True HD sources. I would reencode the DTS HD track to AC3 640 kbit/s. This would be my aim.
gonca
30th October 2014, 23:16
Sounds like you want aType=0
aBitrate=640
CV91913
31st October 2014, 03:59
If you want, just tell me how you like to encode and I can help you create a preset.
I have been having trouble with audio on mp4 output, so thought I would take you up on your offer.
I have at least one mobile device that only likes stereo AAC audio tracks. It spits up blood on AC3. So I have been using the following preset:
[00039]
caption=BD to MP4, 1280x720, Stereo-AAC
vBitrate=2500
aBitrate=256
aType=1
vFormat=4
cType=5
This preset does provide AAC stereo audio but no matter what I set aBitrate to, it always comes out at about 164. I have tried 256 and 320, neither work. Is it because aBitrate does not work with AAC?
Thanks...
gonca
31st October 2014, 10:37
I don't use AAC so I have to assume it has to do with Variable Bitrate settings, and your program reporting an average bitrate.
If your mobile device is a tablet, try 128Kbps AAC.
CV91913
31st October 2014, 16:24
I don't use AAC so I have to assume it has to do with Variable Bitrate settings, and your program reporting an average bitrate.
If your mobile device is a tablet, try 128Kbps AAC.
I don't want a lower audio bitrate, I would like it to be approx 256. BTW, the problem mobile device is a windows phone, my tab handles AC3 just fine.
gonca
31st October 2014, 22:19
The 128 Kbps remark was only for space saving. What AAC encoder are you using?
CV91913
31st October 2014, 23:06
The 128 Kbps remark was only for space saving. What AAC encoder are you using?
I am not sure, I have ffdshow installed. I just use defaults. Am not sure how I would set an audio encoder.
jdobbs
31st October 2014, 23:31
I am not sure, I have ffdshow installed. I just use defaults. Am not sure how I would set an audio encoder.By default it is FAAC. You can also use Nero AAC encoder. It is free, but cannot be redistributed -- so you'd have to download it separately to use it.
mparade
31st October 2014, 23:34
Is FORCED_SUB_LANG=s hiddenopt working correctly both by a general subtitle track that has several items which are flagged as forced and with a separated subtitle track that only has forced subs which are flagged as forced?
Thank you very much for the answer.
gonca
31st October 2014, 23:59
I have been having trouble with audio on mp4 output, so thought I would take you up on your offer.
I have at least one mobile device that only likes stereo AAC audio tracks. It spits up blood on AC3. So I have been using the following preset:
[00039]
caption=BD to MP4, 1280x720, Stereo-AAC
vBitrate=2500
aBitrate=256
aType=1
vFormat=4
cType=5
This preset does provide AAC stereo audio but no matter what I set aBitrate to, it always comes out at about 164. I have tried 256 and 320, neither work. Is it because aBitrate does not work with AAC?
Thanks...
I just tried a quick test encode, it appears that the 256 k in your audio bitrate is the maximum and the 163-164 K is the average in a variable bitrate encode
CV91913
1st November 2014, 00:31
I just tried a quick test encode, it appears that the 256 k in your audio bitrate is the maximum and the 163-164 K is the average in a variable bitrate encode
Thanks for testing my presets. I guess what I am seeing is an average but that average does not seem to increase if I increase aBitrate to 320. Oh well, not a big deal.
gonca
1st November 2014, 01:02
The low average bit rate might have to do with the complexity of the audio track. Different tracks might have different average bitrates, some higher some lower
sparkyar
12th November 2014, 02:48
my english sucks, sorry :)
Hi jdobbs, maybe Im asking too much but would it be possible to have an option under the "Audio Encoding Options" to only keep HD Audio for the main audio track?
for example...
If I want to keep intact the main DTS-HD english audio track, but I want to encode the french DTS-HD and commentary DTS tracks to AC3.
An option like "Only Keep HD Audio for First/Main track" or "Keep First/Main Audio intact" would do ;)
Anyways... THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU PUT INTO BD REBUILDER!
Blurayhd
14th November 2014, 04:34
Hi jdobbs, hope youŽre well, i was thinking about if you can make some button just for do "clic" "Pause" and "Continue" some job on any Bd rebuiler process? An example, i currently ripping some bluray movie and i have to stop temporaly the job but i donŽt want to miss all the process, so, if there just could be a button to pause temporaly and later continue, that will perfect. IŽll wonder if you can do that button.
Dear jdobbs, can be this possible?
Anyway thank you for your time!!
Sharc
14th November 2014, 06:21
Hi jdobbs, hope youŽre well, i was thinking about if you can make some button just for do "clic" "Pause" and "Continue" some job on any Bd rebuiler process? An example, i currently ripping some bluray movie and i have to stop temporaly the job but i donŽt want to miss all the process, so, if there just could be a button to pause temporaly and later continue, that will perfect. IŽll wonder if you can do that button.
Dear jdobbs, can be this possible?
Anyway thank you for your time!!
You can do this already now:
When you cancel / abort a running job and restart BD-RB it will ask if you want to start from scratch or if you want to resume (continue) the prevoius job.
Blurayhd
22nd November 2014, 06:37
You can do this already now:
When you cancel / abort a running job and restart BD-RB it will ask if you want to start from scratch or if you want to resume (continue) the prevoius job.
Thank you sharc, yes, but if I cancel any job for example in the middle (of the time line of process) and when I just resume, the job just start from the beginning.
For example, if right now IŽm reencoding some movie Reencoding: VID_00001 and the time left is about 3hs but I do cancel that and later resume that, the entire process of that file will start from the beginning and iŽll lose the hours of entire jobs. You know what I mean?
I mean about some button to resume the file job just where it was canceled
omegaman7
22nd November 2014, 06:42
Thank you sharc, yes, but if I cancel any job for example in the middle (of the time line of process) and when I just resume, the job just start from the beginning.
For example, if right now IŽm reencoding some movie Reencoding: VID_00001 and the time left is about 3hs but I do cancel that and later resume that, the entire process of that file will start from the beginning and iŽll lose the hours of entire jobs. You know what I mean?
I mean about some button to resume the file job just where it was canceled
That's been requested several times. I don't recall the exact answer, but designing the program to do that, is either impossible, or extremely difficult. And even if it is possible, pausing is highly ill-advised. It could cause artifacts(or a multitude of glitches) in the encode. Plus now, he'd be coding for multiple decoders/encoders. I sure wouldn't want the task lol.
DoctorM
22nd November 2014, 07:27
Are there plans for separate output and work directories? I saw it requested on this thread, but nothing after that.
ATM the final copy/building is pretty slow and HDD intensive since it copies it all happens on the same drive.
Lathe
22nd November 2014, 08:14
Are there plans for separate output and work directories? I saw it requested on this thread, but nothing after that.
ATM the final copy/building is pretty slow and HDD intensive since it copies it all happens on the same drive.
Something that helps capitalize on this is if you can afford to thrown an SSD drive in your computer, then all the reading / writing / processing done on that disc usually goes SIGNIFICANTLY faster!
I took the plunge here about 6 months ago and bought a Samsung EVO 250 Gig SSD. It was only about $120 or so (Amazon) and I now ALWAYS make sure that I rip to that drive and do ALL processing on it. I try to use it exclusively if possible for MKVMerge, TSMuxer, BDRB, or any re-encoding of any kind. It REALLY saves a lot of time!
Secondarily, if you wanted to, you COULD abort BDRB right after it finishes the encode and just before or just after the start of the rebuilding phase. Then, simply use TSMuxer (which BDRB likely uses anyway) and output to a different conventional HDD if you want. That would spare you what you are talking about, which would be reading / writing / and rebuilding using the same physical drive.
Hope that helps somewhat...
gonca
22nd November 2014, 13:42
Are there plans for separate output and work directories? I saw it requested on this thread, but nothing after that.
ATM the final copy/building is pretty slow and HDD intensive since it copies it all happens on the same drive.
HIDDEN_OPTS
OUTPUT_FOLDER=n, where n must exist
Lathe
22nd November 2014, 23:44
HIDDEN_OPTS
OUTPUT_FOLDER=n, where n must exist
Oh, nice. I wasn't aware of that :)
jdobbs
23rd November 2014, 15:42
It really doesn't save much time though...
DoctorM
23rd November 2014, 20:47
HIDDEN_OPTS
OUTPUT_FOLDER=n, where n must exist
Cheers. Can't wait to try that. Does BD Rebuilder create a subdirectory with the BD's name or does it place the BDMV folder directly in the OUTPUT_FOLDER path?
Ch3vr0n
23rd November 2014, 21:07
It uses the disc volume name as visible in the bdrb window
Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 7 met Tapatalk
jdobbs
23rd November 2014, 21:36
It uses the disc volume name as visible in the bdrb window
Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 7 met TapatalkOr the name of the folder holding the BDMV subfolder when encoding from a hard drive.
DoctorM
23rd November 2014, 21:59
Cool. Then using the Desktop would an ideal directory.
jdobbs
24th November 2014, 16:29
As long as you create a folder on the desktop that has a meaningful name. I, myself, just create working folders on the drive that make it easy to access. (Ex: D:\WORKING\MOVIENAME\BDMV\...)
DoctorM
24th November 2014, 17:09
That actually brings me to another request. Could outputted discs have an extension added to denote it's the re-encoded disc?
I've occasionally wanted to use the same input and output location, but then the original disc would be overwritten.
Ex.: Source: c:\WORKING\MovieName, Output: c:\WORKING\MovieName_BDRB
jdobbs
24th November 2014, 17:35
That actually brings me to another request. Could outputted discs have an extension added to denote it's the re-encoded disc?
I've occasionally wanted to use the same input and output location, but then the original disc would be overwritten.
Ex.: Source: c:\WORKING\MovieName, Output: c:\WORKING\MovieName_BDRBI could probably add a hidden option, but I don't think it would be used very often.
DoctorM
2nd December 2014, 06:43
I tested my first Quick Play menu today and thought it looked good. I was surprised that the selections were all top justified with a lot of empty space below it.
I understand dynamically sizing the overlay region where the text appears is probably not simple, but I wouldn't mind seeing the text centered vertically within it.
jdobbs
2nd December 2014, 16:00
I tested my first Quick Play menu today and thought it looked good. I was surprised that the selections were all top justified with a lot of empty space below it.
I understand dynamically sizing the overlay region where the text appears is probably not simple, but I wouldn't mind seeing the text centered vertically within it.I tested that -- and it looked pretty ugly when it was centered vertically, especially when there were only a few items.
AmigaFuture
2nd December 2014, 20:09
I know time cannot be saved or banked, so to me OUTPUT_FOLDER=p is a sweet option for a different target drive other than directory on the same drive.
The look of the Quick-Play menu is really useful with its features. A very sweet bonus is, and respect to multiAVCHD, you didn't force, or make by default any automatic music/noises. The only thing I'd like to see added, but don't expect it, would be an option for chapters. That way either a movie from Alternate MKV or...iDevice movies could have chapters. From a programmers view, I can see where that might be a lot more code than you might be willing to add. LOL!
jdobbs
2nd December 2014, 20:22
I know time cannot be saved or banked, so to me OUTPUT_FOLDER=p is a sweet option for a different target drive other than directory on the same drive.
The look of the Quick-Play menu is really useful with its features. A very sweet bonus is, and respect to multiAVCHD, you didn't force, or make by default any automatic music/noises. The only thing I'd like to see added, but don't expect it, would be an option for chapters. That way either a movie from Alternate MKV or...iDevice movies could have chapters. From a programmers view, I can see where that might be a lot more code than you might be willing to add. LOL!Not sure I know what you mean... but if you are backing up a disc (BD) to MKV or MP4 -- chapters are already maintained.
Sharc
2nd December 2014, 20:39
Quick-menu: The possibility to select the audio language would be useful. I can always select it via the remote but the procedure is different with every brand of TV/remote.
AmigaFuture
2nd December 2014, 20:48
Not sure I know what you mean... but if you are backing up a disc (BD) to MKV or MP4 -- chapters are already maintained.
Mmm...I thought in context to Quick-Play is was clear. Okay, shall have another go: From the Quick-Play Menu, displayed through BD Player a generic button for "Chapters" for a single movie. Activating the button would then cause a new menu to display and display chapters. Maybe in pre-defined time segments? In picture form or text and pictures or only text. "Chapter 1" etc.
If chapters already exist, then chapters are made from the chapter data within the MKV/MP4. I'm not meaning making chapters FOR the movie..I'm meaning make chapters for Chapters Menu. A generic menu.
jdobbs
2nd December 2014, 20:55
Mmm...I thought in context to Quick-Play is was clear. Okay, shall have another go: From the Quick-Play Menu, displayed through BD Player a generic button for "Chapters" for a single movie. Activating the button would then cause a new menu to display and display chapters. Maybe in pre-defined time segments? In picture form or text and pictures or only text. "Chapter 1" etc.
If chapters already exist, then chapters are made from the chapter data within the MKV/MP4. I'm not meaning making chapters FOR the movie..I'm meaning make chapters for Chapters Menu. A generic menu.Oh, I see what you mean. You're asking for a chapter menu. That wasn't clear in your first post.
If I decided to do a PRO version, one of the things I'd considered was a lot of extended authoring capability. You know, a way to edit/customize menus, etc. -- that might be something I could consider there.
AmigaFuture
2nd December 2014, 21:04
It was clear to me ( :) ), but...I can, upon reading it from less distraction...2nd is more so. It's cool. If you're willing...only a hope. Otherwise, the program has surpassed all of my past expectations.
Dandimite
6th December 2014, 08:40
is it possible to add a feature, in which hd-audio is kept only for the main movie? i do have some discs whith extras containing pcm audio, which would be fine in AC3
thanks, Dandimite
DoctorM
18th December 2014, 03:57
It's been previously requested by me (and IIRC seconded), the ability to right-click a VID and like "Blank this item", select "Do not reencode this item".
I like to do this with discs where the movie fits fine untouched on a BD25 with a few GB left over that I can compress the menus and bonus features into. (I remember doing this often with DVD Shrink back in the day).
Since it currently isn't possible (and I don't think on the 'To Do List'), I have on occasionally manually created this sort of disc by generating 2 discs, one with the untouched feature, and one re-encoded using a custom disc size then manually putting the two discs together.
The only drawback is that any custom size less than a BD25 has its max bitrate capped at 15mbps (AVCHD spec), even if strict isn't used. That's a shame since I copy it into a BD25 disc later.
Is there currently a way (hidden feature or something) to have BD-RB use full BD specs for discs under BD25 or at least when using a custom output size?
Ch3vr0n
18th December 2014, 17:23
@Jdobbs:
- Would it be possible to add a menu entry under "Help" or something to open the log? Kind of like IMGBurn can, but open it directly in the associated program. IMGburn just opens the folder. That way if the user wants to open the log, (s)he doesn't have to go dig to the working folder to find it. It can be accessed from within bdrb
- Would it be possible to add a menu entry under "Help" or something to erase the saved log
- Would it be possible to add erasing functionality to the "log" tab; reason for this is that i often run multiple encodes after another (but don't always use the batch), so after 1 job finishes i manually navigate to the 2nd one, do what needs to be done (blanking wise) then launch it. However, then the log tab still shows the previous encode info. Personally, i'd rather only have the log tab show the log for the current encode. So it sort of starts with a "fresh" tab every job.
Oh and something i've been wondering lately. Whats the difference between having "verbose status reporting" enabled and disabled?
jdobbs
18th December 2014, 17:30
Oh and something i've been wondering lately. Whats the difference between having "verbose status reporting" enabled and disabled?The verbose option reports some things in the log that non-verbose does not. You just reminded me -- I've been meaning to remove that as an option (and only use verbose) for some time now.
Ch3vr0n
18th December 2014, 17:36
lol, glad i help as your reminder assistant. That only leaves the feature requests. If and how you implement them is up to you (but i hope you will)
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