BD-Rebuilder, Feature Requests

[colinhunt]

That's not likely going to happen. As GaPony mentioned, some of the HD tracks would easily fill a DVD even without any video associated with it. That's the reason I had to add the AC3 encoding feature from the start.
I know, I know... believe me, I know! :)

It just happens that I have a store demonstration BD which is only 10GB and I'd love to squeeze it to a DVD9. But some of the demo clips contain 7.1 channel PCM audio which Aften refuses to digest, and the entire backup process stops there.

How about making "keep original audio for DVD9 backups" an optional, or hidden, feature? I know you hate implementing features which result in uninformed users making unnecessary bug reports, but surely BD-RB users in general are enlightened enough to recognize the rare situations when it's OK to enable that feature?

[GaPony]

I know, I know... believe me, I know! :)

It just happens that I have a store demonstration BD which is only 10GB and I'd love to squeeze it to a DVD9. But some of the demo clips contain 7.1 channel PCM audio which Aften refuses to digest, and the entire backup process stops there.

How about making "keep original audio for DVD9 backups" an optional, or hidden, feature? I know you hate implementing features which result in uninformed users making unnecessary bug reports, but surely BD-RB users in general are enlightened enough to recognize the rare situations when it's OK to enable that feature?

Not to sound smarmy, but sometimes its just easier for the user to spend $4.00 on a BD25 disc than it is for the author to spend 50 hours writing and debugging code. Truely enlightened users understand that no software can be all things to all situations. :)

[colinhunt]

Not to sound smarmy, but sometimes its just easier for the user to spend $4.00 on a BD25 disc than it is for the author to spend 50 hours writing and debugging code. Truely enlightened users understand that no software can be all things to all situations. :)
Firstly, BD25 discs cost a hell of a lot more than US$4.00 where I live. Secondly, imagine a situation where the data has to be duplicated on 150 discs. Would you rather pay for 150 BD25s or 150 DVD9s? Thirdly, I don't think this request falls under the "all things to all situations" moniker; BD-RB already has the ability of keeping original audio for BD25 backups so it's not like programming the whole thing from scratch again.

[sype]

What about an option "Shutdown after completion"?

This would be my first choice too. long encodes can end while im at work, and the pc is then burning electric for a few hours untill i get home.
Shutdown after completion would save me money, and save the planet.

[deank]

Firstly, BD25 discs cost a hell of a lot more than US$4.00 where I live. Secondly, imagine a situation where the data has to be duplicated on 150 discs. Would you rather pay for 150 BD25s or 150 DVD9s? Thirdly, I don't think this request falls under the "all things to all situations" moniker; BD-RB already has the ability of keeping original audio for BD25 backups so it's not like programming the whole thing from scratch again.

You're way out of line here... All: 1), 2) & 3) are just problems of yours :) and after such a post I'd not expect any real support for your 'imaginary'?! 150-discs-per-day/week factory, based on BD-RB.

"Thirdly, I don't think this request falls under the "all things to all situations" moniker.... so it's not like programming the whole thing from scratch...

Right... You're right about one thing for sure - you "don't think".

Dean

[GaPony]

Firstly, BD25 discs cost a hell of a lot more than US$4.00 where I live. Secondly, imagine a situation where the data has to be duplicated on 150 discs. Would you rather pay for 150 BD25s or 150 DVD9s? Thirdly, I don't think this request falls under the "all things to all situations" moniker; BD-RB already has the ability of keeping original audio for BD25 backups so it's not like programming the whole thing from scratch again.

I'm thinking jdobbs didn't envision BD-Rebuilder as a bootlegging tool. Unless you live in Disneyland or Wonderland you can get 25gb BD-R media for $4.00 each or less.

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I'm not sure how you go from "The rare situation" to 150 discs. I'm sure you can do what you want with free tools readily available on the internet, but it requires you do it manually, a step at a time and maybe learn how to actually use the programs. You apparently want somebody else to do the dirty work so you can do it with one click.

I'm not sure what some people are expecting from free (so far) software.

Up to now, at least most of the requests have been thoughtful of the authors time.

[colinhunt]

You're way out of line here.
I think it's up to Jdobbs and not you to decide what feature requests are out of line.

after such a post I'd not expect any real support for your 'imaginary'?! 150-discs-per-day/week factory, based on BD-RB.
And not once did it cross your mind that someone might actually use BD-RB for completely legitimate and legal purposes? Oh no, perish the thought. Nice attitude you have there, deank.

Right... You're right about one thing for sure - you "don't think".
My, what a shiny mirror you have there.

[GaPony]

I think it's up to Jdobbs and not you to decide what feature requests are out of line.



It sounds like he's already decided...

That's not likely going to happen. As GaPony mentioned, some of the HD tracks would easily fill a DVD even without any video associated with it. That's the reason I had to add the AC3 encoding feature from the start.

Under your own logic, I would think the case was closed several posts back.

[colinhunt]

I'm thinking jdobbs didn't envision BD-Rebuilder as a bootlegging tool.
I have not for one second been talking about bootlegging or anything illegal. If you can't fathom such a situation... oh well.

Unless you live in Disneyland or Wonderland you can get 25gb BD-R media for $4.00 each or less.
I don't know where you live, but over here we have these things called shipping costs and import taxes -- and we pay import tax for the shipping costs, too.

I'm not sure how you go from "The rare situation" to 150 discs.
Because they are two different matters altogether. By "rare situation", I was referring to a case where the user can keep original HD audio when doing a DVD9 without degrading video quality noticeably. Yes, those are rare occasions, like I said. By "150 discs" I was referring to a non-profit project attempting to educate the public about the Blu-ray format.

I'm sure you can do what you want with free tools readily available on the internet, but it requires you do it manually, a step at a time and maybe learn how to actually use the programs. You apparently want somebody else to do the dirty work so you can do it with one click.
Isn't "one click" solution why BD-RB exists? I guess you don't use BD-RB at all then, preferring to doing things manually a step at a time. Right?

I'm not sure what some people are expecting from free (so far) software.
To see it evolve into something even more useful than it is currently?

Up to now, at least most of the requests have been thoughtful of the authors time.
It's completely up to Jdobbs to decide which feature requests have merit and which don't. He has the right to comment on said requests or ignore them completely. All feature requests are equal in that respect, and it's not up to you to make any decisions on Jdobbs' behalf.

[colinhunt]

It sounds like he's already decided...
It's totally his decision to make and I respect it. After all, we're making requests, not demands.

[tekmobile]

Any chance of using ImageSource in the AVS to blank unwanted extras a simple static image even at 1080p compresses to nothing

the example below will create a 90 min video of the image called blank.bmp at 1080p and will compress to well under 100MB you can state the required number of frames if you need to create a video that will match the original


ImageSource("blank.bmp", end = 129469, use_DevIL=true, fps=23.976)
ConvertToYV12()


I recently did this manually to strip the PiP feature from a movie that had the PIP workaround they used to use for early players where the disc contained 2 versions of the movie one with PIP hard encoded and one without

or somthing a little bit simpler


video = BlankClip(length=3000, width=720, height=480, fps=30000, fps_denominator=1001, color=$000000)
audio = BlankClip(video, audio_rate=48000, stereo=true)
AudioDub(video, audio)
Subtitle("Video Removed", size=42 ,align=5)
ConvertToYV12()


This will create blank audio/video to match and replace the original ideal for blanking unwanted extras

[Sharc]

@jdobbs
I imagine that it's probably not top priority on your agenda, but I wonder if you have resumed working on 1-pass encoding (movie only, and perhaps for full disk backup also).
I have seen that the crf vs size prediction can be quite tricky, but I imagine that if one accepts target size accuracy of say >80% it should be doable. I am quite impressed of the crf quality - and speed of course.

[Category 5]

Just wanted to mention again (i think I already did but not sure) that it's be great to have a checkbox on the main screen next to the subtitle list that allowd you to check a particular subtitle as forced...good for movie only encodes where there is a full sub track disabled by default, but a mini sub track that should be defaulted to on just for forein language dialogue

[jdobbs]

Just wanted to mention again (i think I already did but not sure) that it's be great to have a checkbox on the main screen next to the subtitle list that allowd you to check a particular subtitle as forced...good for movie only encodes where there is a full sub track disabled by default, but a mini sub track that should be defaulted to on just for forein language dialogue You may be able to do that with movie-only -- but in full backups the settings of the original would have to stand, and would likely override it anyway.

[Aratar]

First off, I just *love* BD-Rebuilder. Saves so much time. I mostly use it to backup BD-50 to BD-25.

One feature I'd really like is to blank out certain extras and to choose what streams should be compressed and which ratio. For instance, some movies fit unedited by just stripping some audio streams and reencoding some extras. so what I do is I manually blank out some shitty extras (like trailers for other movies) using tsmuxer and then I blank out the movie temporarily and let bd-rebuilder work on a custom size extras only project (custom size is bd-25 size *minus* 'movie only with stripped audio streams')... then I take the reencoded extra stream/clip/playlists and copy them together with the stripped movie project and voilà: I get an unedited movie with some reencoded extras and some useless extras stripped. It would be great if bd rebuilder had an option to do something like that. It is technically capable of doing so already.

[DVD Maniac]

Sounds exactly what i'm after! While i'm waiting for this feature in BD Rebuilder I am resorting to Movie only projects. As with DVD, BD titles have the following "components" -

1. Copyright Warnings
2. Studio Logos
3. Trailers
4. Menu(s)
5. Movie
6. Extras

Ideally I like to create 2 types of backups -

Type 1 - Items 4 and 5 only (all Extras Removed)
Type 2 - Items 4 and 5 with some or all Extras Retained

With DVD you have the option of programs like vob Blanker or similar to achieve this, alas with BD we still don't seem to be there yet

I am trying to follow your procedure but i'm struggling with the following -

1. How exactly are you using TS muxer to blank the extras? Are you reinserting the created m2ts file back into the original file structure? In which case won't all the playlist files be wrong?

2. Same question for the blanked out movie step

3. The final setp does not make sense to me - surely you will have duplicate m2ts files in each "source" structure, in which case which one is retained?

[Aratar]

1. How exactly are you using TS muxer to blank the extras? Are you reinserting the created m2ts file back into the original file structure? In which case won't all the playlist files be wrong?

2. Same question for the blanked out movie step

3. The final setp does not make sense to me - surely you will have duplicate m2ts files in each "source" structure, in which case which one is retained?

1. First thing I do is, I use bdedit to find out which playlist corresponds to the stream I want to strip, then I load this playlist in tsmuxer, next thing I do is I use the 'cut' function in tsmuxer and set it to 1000ms or something and set output to "blu-ray", this usually produces a 20-50kb stream file with a corresponding clip/playlist file. Next thing I do is renaming playlist, clip and stream file to the original numbers and then edit the playlist file with a hexeditor like winhex (really simple: just replace 00000M2TS with 0000xM2TS). I think tsmuxer has options to renumber playlist and streams but I never tried it, so I know this method works fine. Then I use bdedit on the output directory to check that I edited everything OK. Next thing after backing up the original files, simply replace the playlist/clip/stream files with the ones from the edited tsmuxer output. I have tested this on PS3, PowerDVD as well as my Samsung BD-P1500 always same result: when I select the blanked out track, it simply jumps back to the menu, pretty much what I want it to. You can use bd rebuilder on a project with blanked out clips, it will simply copy them over as they are below the MIN_M2TS_SIZE value.

2-3. same procedure but with the main movie stream.

Say you have a BD50 with a 22gb movie stream (containing 5 languages, you only want to keep english) and 5gb of extras that you don't want to strip. In order to strip the languages you can also use bdrebuilder by deselecting the audio-streams on a movie only with FORCE_BLURAY=1 option or just full backup on a custom size like 50000mb project. It will remux the movie without reencoding. This is will probably result in a 20gb movie stream, leaving approx 2,5gb for extras. Now replace the movie with a blank stream and set custom size to 2500, run bd_rebuilder, it will now reencode extras only. add the stripped-down movie stream/clipfile/playlists.

You can image up the final project with imgburn and use latest PowerDVD9 + Virtual CloneDrive (most virtual drive tools like daemon tools don't work with PowerDVD9 or late PowerDVD8 builds, you'd have to use an older PowerDVD version that even allow to playback a BDMV folder from HDD but probably incompatible with newer blu-ray discs) to test or burn on BD-RE first.

[DVD Maniac]

OK. I think I understand the procedure for method 1. So my interpretation of this is that if I want to undertake either one of my "Type 1" or "Type 2" projects, all I do is imply follow this procedure which essentially creates an edited version of the original file structure, completely intact and functional in its own right which can be fed into BDRebuilder as the source much like Vob Blanker + DVD Rebuilder could work together - Right? In which case I don't need method 2 since I always want to retain the menu anyway and simply remove the annoying stuff which wastes space and only retain any extras worth keeping - Right Again?

[Aratar]

Right. If you blank out all or part of extras the way I explained it and then feed it to bd rebuilder, it will process it properly.

The thing I explained in the part below is only useful for the rare case that the movie would fit UNEDITED/NONREENCODED on a BD25 by stripping some languages and part of the extras though keeping some extras. As there is no option to define the compression ratio of a certain stream (in that case: 100% on movie, and 50% on extras), bd rebuilder would recompress both movie and extras even though it would not have been necessary.

[jdobbs]

What do you do if there are other MPLS files that reference one or more of the CLPI/M2TS files in the playlist? What if there are alternate component paths (e.g. based on language)? Also, how do you get around code that references streams or relies on the structure of the original MPLS? I guess I'm trying to say that simply replacing the original MPLS/CLPI/M2TS can be more complicated than it appears.

Unfortunately from my perspective, when bug reports are filed from folks who use these kinds of procedures -- the person reporting will invariably "forget" to mention the preprocessing because in his/her mind it has "nothing to do with the issue". Believe me -- I've been down this road before with DVD Rebuilder.

If it works for you, then more power to you -- but please -- anyone who uses this method, DO NOT post any bug reports related to anything you've altered. I have a limited amount of free time to spend on BD-RB and I don't want to waste any of it on snipe hunts.

No slight intended, I'm just trying to save myself some headaches. Eventually I'll add the editing capability to BD-RB. Thanks.

[Aratar]

What do you do if there are other MPLS files that reference one or more of the CLPI/M2TS files in the playlist? What if there are alternate component paths (e.g. based on language)? Also, how do you get around code that references streams or relies on the structure of the original MPLS? I guess I'm trying to say that simply replacing the original MPLS/CLPI/M2TS can be more complicated than it appears.

I'm aware of the fact that this method of stripping/blanking stuff doesn't work for any kind of material and must be tested on a case-by-case basis. But a lot of 'regular' extras are simply referenced just once in a single playlist and removing them this way works for both HDMV and most bd-j menu structures. Of course this is neither a bug or feature of BD Rebuilder, so sorry for being off-topic here. I was only replying to DVD Maniac because he asked me how I do it.

In my original post I just mentioned this because I'd like something like that as a future feature of bd rebuilder.

As for the language stripping part, that's already a feature built-in bd rebuilder and it works fine for almost all cases as bd rebuilder relinks stripped languages to an existing audio stream in the playlist (I love that btw!).


Unfortunately from my perspective, when bug reports are filed from folks who use these kinds of procedures -- the person reporting will invariably "forget" to mention the preprocessing because in his/her mind it has "nothing to do with the issue". Believe me -- I've been down this road before with DVD Rebuilder.


As I said, filing a bug report on material that has been altered/preprocessed would be naive, I wouldn't want to encourage people to do that, so apologies if my post could lead to such things. I can imagine that this can by very annoying.


If it works for you, then more power to you -- but please -- anyone who uses this method, DO NOT post any bug reports related to anything you've altered. I have a limited amount of free time to spend on BD-RB and I don't want to waste any of it on snipe hunts.


Again, I should have made clear that the way I alter things can't be done in every case and if things are overlooked or menu code referencing is too complex, etc. this will lead to unexpected results that have nothing to do with bd rb itself.


No slight intended, I'm just trying to save myself some headaches. Eventually I'll add the editing capability to BD-RB. Thanks.

Thanks for considering editing capabilities and again sorry for making it sound that the way I edited things is a solid way to alter all kind of material and sorry for being off-topic in my 2nd post.

[DVD Maniac]

@jdobbs,
History it seems is determined to repeat itself on you. I remember the same debates of old vizaviz Rebuilder.............. Promise not to be one of the ones pursuing you for damages along the lines of "I passed it through abcd....xyz first and now YOUR program just won't work! WTF! :):):)

[tekmobile]

What do you do if there are other MPLS files that reference one or more of the CLPI/M2TS files in the playlist? What if there are alternate component paths (e.g. based on language)? Also, how do you get around code that references streams or relies on the structure of the original MPLS? I guess I'm trying to say that simply replacing the original MPLS/CLPI/M2TS can be more complicated than it appears.

Unfortunately from my perspective, when bug reports are filed from folks who use these kinds of procedures -- the person reporting will invariably "forget" to mention the preprocessing because in his/her mind it has "nothing to do with the issue". Believe me -- I've been down this road before with DVD Rebuilder.

If it works for you, then more power to you -- but please -- anyone who uses this method, DO NOT post any bug reports related to anything you've altered. I have a limited amount of free time to spend on BD-RB and I don't want to waste any of it on snipe hunts.

No slight intended, I'm just trying to save myself some headaches. Eventually I'll add the editing capability to BD-RB. Thanks.

I had to write a batch script to do a full backup of a universal title the other day by making it overwrite all the extra's AVS files as soon as BD-RB created them and replace them with a blank image to get good compression because all the extra's were VC-1 1080i and as expected would fail allowing BD-RB to copy them intact left the movie with a bitrate of about 1.5Mbps which as expected looked horrific



:206
set avs=206
set frames=17700
ECHO video = BlankClip(length=%frames%, width=1920 , height=1080 , fps=30000, fps_denominator=1001, color=$000000) > %avs%.avs
ECHO audio = BlankClip(video, audio_rate=48000, stereo=true) >> %avs%.avs
ECHO AudioDub(video, audio) >> %avs%.avs
ECHO Subtitle("Video Removed", size=100 , align=5) >> %avs%.avs
ECHO ConvertToYV12() >> %avs%.avs

ECHO Monitoring for VID_00%avs%
:start%avs%
IF EXIST VID_00%avs%.AVS copy /y %avs%.avs VID_00%avs%.AVS
IF EXIST VID_00206.AVS goto end
goto start%avs%


Basicly I set the frames to match the original and told it as soon as it finds the matching AVS to overwrite it with one that the script created and then end which then loaded up the script to do the next AVS.

As far as BD-RB is aware it ReEncoded the original M2TS to AVC and corrected the playlist etc

The resulting M2TS is very small with a blank screen and simple informative text.

It would be nice if something similar to this could be incorporated where maybe you could double click on any vid file and it disables it and instead sends a simple AVS script like above to x264 instead while keeping the original audio but the same script can also be sent to aften to create a silent AC3 track too.

At first I tried to make each AVS seperatly but in the end found it much simpler to let the batch script create all the AVS files and modify each one with the variables specified as required.

It worked a treat and the movie ended up with a bitrate of just over 17Mbps using quick encode for extra's

[jdobbs]

I had to write a batch script to do a full backup of a universal title the other day by making it overwrite all the extra's AVS files as soon as BD-RB created them and replace them with a blank image to get good compression because all the extra's were VC-1 1080i and as expected would fail allowing BD-RB to copy them intact left the movie with a bitrate of about 1.5Mbps which as expected looked horrific



:206
set avs=206
set frames=17700
ECHO video = BlankClip(length=%frames%, width=1920 , height=1080 , fps=30000, fps_denominator=1001, color=$000000) > %avs%.avs
ECHO audio = BlankClip(video, audio_rate=48000, stereo=true) >> %avs%.avs
ECHO AudioDub(video, audio) >> %avs%.avs
ECHO Subtitle("Video Removed", size=100 , align=5) >> %avs%.avs
ECHO ConvertToYV12() >> %avs%.avs

ECHO Monitoring for VID_00%avs%
:start%avs%
IF EXIST VID_00%avs%.AVS copy /y %avs%.avs VID_00%avs%.AVS
IF EXIST VID_00206.AVS goto end
goto start%avs%


Basicly I set the frames to match the original and told it as soon as it finds the matching AVS to overwrite it with one that the script created and then end which then loaded up the script to do the next AVS.

As far as BD-RB is aware it ReEncoded the original M2TS to AVC and corrected the playlist etc

The resulting M2TS is very small with a blank screen and simple informative text.

It would be nice if something similar to this could be incorporated where maybe you could double click on any vid file and it disables it and instead sends a simple AVS script like above to x264 instead while keeping the original audio but the same script can also be sent to aften to create a silent AC3 track too.

At first I tried to make each AVS seperatly but in the end found it much simpler to let the batch script create all the AVS files and modify each one with the variables specified as required.

It worked a treat and the movie ended up with a bitrate of just over 17Mbps using quick encode for extra's I can pretty easily add that option to BD-RB -- it already has the capability to recognize those files and blank them (it does it automatically for BD-9/5.

[DaMacFunkin]

Any chance of BDRB being able to automatically remove small problem files from the encoding list, i left a job doing over the weekend and about 36 hours came back to it expecting it to be long finished and shut down and it had failed on a 0.4mb file that i had missed (Doh).

[tekmobile]

I can pretty easily add that option to BD-RB -- it already has the capability to recognize those files and blank them (it does it automatically for BD-9/5.

What about a hidden option or maybe a checkbox in the GUI settings

BLANK_FAILED=1

And maybe add a log entry
"Blanking Failed Encode VID_00465"


Where BD-RB just automaticly blanks any video stream that fails to encode rather than retrying a few times and stopping this would be especially useful for those pesky files with just one frame that always fail.

I just did Video Essentials HD Basic this is a very complicated disc with many files and there must have been 20 M2TS files that just contained 1 frame.

[jdobbs]

What about a hidden option or maybe a checkbox in the GUI settings

BLANK_FAILED=1

And maybe add a log entry
"Blanking Failed Encode VID_00465"


Where BD-RB just automaticly blanks any video stream that fails to encode rather than retrying a few times and stopping this would be especially useful for those pesky files with just one frame that always fail.

I just did Video Essentials HD Basic this is a very complicated disc with many files and there must have been 20 M2TS files that just contained 1 frame. It retrys 3 times... I've also added some new code in v0.25.05 that prevents most (if not all) of the "small source" encodes.

I'll but in both options.

[Aratar]

It retrys 3 times... I've also added some new code in v0.25.05 that prevents most (if not all) of the "small source" encodes.

I'll but in both options.

this has worked for me so far... I once had a x264.exe lockup, bd rebuilder simply retried on the 2/2 pass and it worked out fine.

[SquallMX]

Support for 1440 x 1080 resize (Good option for BD9 backups of long movies :devil:).

[Sharc]

Support for 1440 x 1080 resize (Good option for BD9 backups of long movies :devil:).
Yes, I second this. It would preserve a higher resolution of the original, however it will normally require anamorphic encoding (which is part of the blu-ray spec btw.).

[datman]

I don't know if it has been mentioned but if I could always shut down after rebuild that would be nice. I sometimes forget to set it.

[mikeathome]

Hello jdobbs,

I wonder if this has been requested before:

Deank (THANKS A LOT!!!) has just finished implementing HD DVD Rebuild in his wonderful multiAVC tool incl. an option to avoid re-encoding the video in case a compliant AVC (h264) is present.

I wonder if it would be possible to implement an option (or at least the opportunity change a .ini-file) to create a HD DVD compliant x264 stream. Profiles are available known to work with Toshiba A3 as Deank has implemented them in multiAVC already.

We would be able to streamline a BD Rebuild to HD DVD process, using tools like BD Rebuilder (to shrink and 'clean') + multiAVC (to build HD DVD structure), while avoiding the the need to re-encode in multiAVC, if BD RE Builder would be able to produce a HD DVD compliant video stream as well as an AC3 448kbps Audio stream.

That would be so wonderful!

mike

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

As (I believe) I've been the primary beta tester of the multi-format to HD-DVD aspect of "deank's" program alluded to by "mikeathome", I'd very strongly second the suggestion/request made in Post #182 of this thread.

Your thoughts, please?

[jefrey]

whats about an option, to add additional Sub or Audio Tracks?! woild it be possible?

[jdobbs]

I don't know if it has been mentioned but if I could always shut down after rebuild that would be nice. I sometimes forget to set it. It's already there -- look at the FILE menu.

[jdobbs]

Hello jdobbs,

I wonder if this has been requested before:

Deank (THANKS A LOT!!!) has just finished implementing HD DVD Rebuild in his wonderful multiAVC tool incl. an option to avoid re-encoding the video in case a compliant AVC (h264) is present.

I wonder if it would be possible to implement an option (or at least the opportunity change a .ini-file) to create a HD DVD compliant x264 stream. Profiles are available known to work with Toshiba A3 as Deank has implemented them in multiAVC already.

We would be able to streamline a BD Rebuild to HD DVD process, using tools like BD Rebuilder (to shrink and 'clean') + multiAVC (to build HD DVD structure), while avoiding the the need to re-encode in multiAVC, if BD RE Builder would be able to produce a HD DVD compliant video stream as well as an AC3 448kbps Audio stream.

That would be so wonderful!

mike@jdobbs

As (I believe) I've been the primary beta tester of the multi-format to HD-DVD aspect of "deank's" program alluded to by "mikeathome", I'd very strongly second the suggestion/request made in Post #182 of this thread.

Your thoughts, please?
I've been talking to DeanK about this in PMs. You should be able to do this through a previously unannounced (that's right... I keep secrets :) ) custom command line feature in BD-RB. DeanK has the details.

Now comes my worst nightmare. People will start creating custom command lines that are senseless garbage and will post bug reports telling me BD-RB sucks because they are too clueless to know it is a self inflicted injury. Of course they will "forget" to mention their custom command line. Sigh... that's why I've only told one user before now.

Just a warning -- if that happens the custom command line will go away in a hurry...

[Capsbackup]

It's already there -- look at the FILE menu.

I think he means one that stays selected even after BD-RB closes/shut downs, as in is "always on" unless deselected.

[jdobbs]

I think he means one that stays selected even after BD-RB closes/shut downs, as in is "always on" unless deselected. People get upset when you do that -- they forget that they set it and complain when their system shuts down (experience from DVD-RB). That's why I made it specifically have to be set for each run.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

I'd suggest you now delete the response you provided to "mikeathome" and me - to minimize unnecessary related activity...

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

I'd suggest you now delete the response you provided to "mikeathome" and me - to minimize unnecessary related activity... I assume you got the info?

[setarip_old]

@jdobbsI assume you got the info?I've saved your explanatory post - and soon make the appropriate request of "the party of the first part".

I'd like to personally thank you for your cooperation, as this particular topic is of significant personal interest to me (more so to several of my grandkids) ;>}

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Yes, I've now received the information. Again, thank you for your cooperation ;>}

I believe "deank" will be in touch with you, as the three line modification did not yield the desired result...

BTW - Is selecting the "One-pass [Experimental]" also a no-no regarding these circumstances?

[deank]

I believe "deank" will be in touch with you, as the three line modification did not yield the desired result...

I PM/emailed both of you about the 'resolution' and I think it was my mistake being too cautious with the --no-cabac option. Removing it makes things work (at least in my testing environment).

setarip_old will have the final word after all :)

Dean

[jefrey]

Is it possible to add the step by step feature? Also not an autmated process of the rebuilding; lie step 1 to 5(extract, encode, rebuild, burn?)??

that would be really cool

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

On behalf of both of us ("deank" and me), a great big, successful, timesaving "THANK YOU!" to you - now tucked away for safekeeping ;>}

[deank]

:thanks:

I'll allow myself to make my other suggestion public:

@jdobbs: I think it will be less dangerous if an INI parameter can tweak the HD-DVD output (instead of worrying if someone will play with the settings and later complain).

My suggestion would be to add an option, which will add the encoding-specific options I PM'd you few days ago. For example:

HDDVDCOMPLIANT=1

Allowing such option will make things easier for you and all the users who may decide to convert their Blu-ray discs to HD-DVD.

Dean

[jdobbs]

:thanks:

I'll allow myself to make my other suggestion public:

@jdobbs: I think it will be less dangerous if an INI parameter can tweak the HD-DVD output (instead of worrying if someone will play with the settings and later complain).

My suggestion would be to add an option, which will add the encoding-specific options I PM'd you few days ago. For example:

HDDVDCOMPLIANT=1

Allowing such option will make things easier for you and all the users who may decide to convert their Blu-ray discs to HD-DVD.

DeanI'm not usually a big fan of prolonging HD-DVD, because it's beating a dead horse. But I owe you... :)

I have a bug-fix version releasing later today that I'm currently testing so its too late for that one -- I'll add it to the next one.

[deank]

Thank you! Thank you.

I'm not going to ask for anything else :) Boyscout promise!

Dean

[GaPony]

He means...... Today. :)

@ jdobbs... I just wanted to thank you for the batch transactions. Its awsome! I just can't seem to find the setting to have the PC stick new blank media into the burner while I'm asleep. Any ideas on that or is it an ImgBurn shortcoming? :D

[jdobbs]

He means...... Today. :)

@ jdobbs... I just wanted to thank you for the batch transactions. Its awsome! I just can't seem to find the setting to have the PC stick new blank media into the burner while I'm asleep. Any ideas on that or is it an ImgBurn shortcoming? :D Maybe later, right after I get the "fetch me a beer from the fridge" routine ironed out.