BD-Rebuilder, Feature Requests

[Sharc]

It is build on intel media SDK by users. Not sure what to make out of it but I would consider close source since you really can't modify core of program or I am reading it wrong.
Indeed it looks like the binary "sample_encode.exe" in the Intel SDK (http://software.intel.com/en-us/vcsource/tools/media-sdk)seems to come closest to a "free available" MVC Encoder for experimenting, now tsMuxerR 3D is within reach....

[Ch3vr0n]

jdobbs, i was wondering if you've made any progress or started looking into that "mass (un)blanking" i asked about a while ago, ya know like you can mass delete files in windows by clicking first + shift > click last file?

[soneca]

Thanks jdobbs for this new version!:)
I have used older revisions of x264 because these new(OpenCL) has given me problems from time to time.

[jdobbs]

Thanks jdobbs for this new version!:)
I have used older revisions of x264 because these new(OpenCL) has given me problems from time to time. It shouldn't. The OpenCL issue was solved a few versions ago.

[soneca]

It shouldn't. The OpenCL issue was solved a few versions ago.

Have not really tested the new revisions, but I had problems with the 2358 version possibly caused by this bug (https://github.com/DarkShikari/x264-devel/commit/9e941d1fabb2de4b15f169057a07dc395307d2ce), which was fixed in revision 2359.

[Ch3vr0n]

requesting a very simple feature (or hidden option). currently BDRB has the power to delete the temporary workfiles for a blu-ray, it does NOT have this power when importing a DVD (to mkv).

my default workfiles folder is C:\Temp (this is where the mkv file will be created)
my dvd import folder is D:\Temp. BDRB creates a folder here called "IMPORT\<moviename>"

my request is that when a job is succesfully done, it removes the <moviename> folder (and if possible the parental IMPORT folder too). Since it can already do this for BD's ,i imagine this routine can be modified perhaps to apply to DVD imports aswell (with maybe a setting in the "setup" like for BD's

[soneca]

requesting a very simple feature (or hidden option). currently BDRB has the power to delete the temporary workfiles for a blu-ray, it does NOT have this power when importing a DVD (to mkv).

my default workfiles folder is C:\Temp (this is where the mkv file will be created)
my dvd import folder is D:\Temp. BDRB creates a folder here called "IMPORT\<moviename>"

my request is that when a job is succesfully done, it removes the <moviename> folder (and if possible the parental IMPORT folder too). Since it can already do this for BD's ,i imagine this routine can be modified perhaps to apply to DVD imports aswell (with maybe a setting in the "setup" like for BD's

Ch3vr0n,

I do not know if you use CCleaner but can clean this and other folders with a single click.

http://s20.postimg.org/7igl4imbx/ccleaner.png

[Ch3vr0n]

Jup, but why use another application when bdrb can already do it itself when the encoding of a bd is done. A "simple" modification to it and it should work for dvd imports too.

[jdobbs]

Jup, but why use another application when bdrb can already do it itself when the encoding of a bd is done. A "simple" modification to it and it should work for dvd imports too.Exactly. No reason in making things more complicated than they have to be. I'll add it in the next release as a hidden option.

[soneca]

Surely, even better!

[Ch3vr0n]

Awesome. I've starting using BDRB for creating movie-only mkv's of DVD's since it van output better quality than cloneDVD mobile can for my new nexus 7 (2013 edition ^^). Watching a pal sized dvd on a full hd screen with clonedvd mobile's output even set at "20" is still pixellated. No such issues with BDRB mkv :). When bdrb will be able to clean the imports folder that'll be the only annoyance i have about dvd imports that'll be gone :)

[ScorpionStingz]

Please, I would like to request a "Pause" button to free up my computer resources if need be temporarily, then pick up right where the BD-Rebuilder left off at. Thank You.

[omegaman7]

Please, I would like to request a "Pause" button to free up my computer resources if need be temporarily, then pick up right where the BD-Rebuilder left off at. Thank You.

People have asked that before. It's not likely to happen, I'm afraid. More trouble than it's worth, I believe. I recall when I had a quad core, I could tell it to only use 3 cores. That way I had potential left for other things. I don't have to worry about it with my six core. It multitasks very well. Sometimes flash content (Facebook games, Youtube) have slight problems, but that is all. Recommend a stronger computer, or an encoding machine.

I'm not a coder, but I imagine if he wanted to do this, in order to minimize the bugs from pausing, the way the encoding is handled would have to be altered. E.g. bookmarking a frame. It wouldn't necessarily stop immediately, it would finish it's current frame, or set of frames.

[jdobbs]

@ScorpionStingz

By default BD-RB runs X264 with the lowest priority (idle). That means that if you want to do something else -- the other project would have a higher priority for CPU time. The only exception would be during extracting and rebuild when the disc is being accessed. But both of those activities together only take minutes...

[k-c-ksum]

Makes sense.

I really wish they'd add MVC support to X264.

fixstars accelcoder x patched x264 for mvc encoding a few years ago, accelcoder x is now owned by pegasys so don't know if its still using a patched x264 version

[HWK]

fixstars accelcoder x patched x264 for mvc encoding a few years ago, accelcoder x is now owned by pegasys so don't know if its still using a patched x264 version

They still use x264 but in consumer product. However for mvc encoding it seems you need turnkey encoding system and there is no mention of x264.

[k-c-ksum]

theres an old thread on this forum but I cant find it,

edit:

here it is

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=162651&highlight=accelcoder

[HWK]

That thread is abandoned long time ago and as such I am not sure if we gone see 3d support or not.

[k-c-ksum]

That thread is abandoned long time ago and as such I am not sure if we gone see 3d support or not.


I tried accelcoder x on some 3d cgi and found the quality very good, not bluray compliant but it worked

[HWK]

Where did you download the file.

[k-c-ksum]

Where did you download the file.

I downloaded the beta back in 2011, then started that thread. It would encode the audio to 2.0 so I lost interest in the program

[HWK]

Oh, I see it is one of standalone programs.

[k-c-ksum]

Oh, I see it is one of standalone programs.


it may be possible to be adapted for bdrb, even as a hidden option, fingers crossed

[HWK]

it may be possible to be adapted for bdrb, even as a hidden option, fingers crossed

I have been thinking on this for some time and so far encoder I use can handle mvc which is 100% compatible with blu-ray standard and it can accept xml layout file structure, though without xml extension on file for options which can be used to tell encoder how to encode particular title.

It goes like this create sample file with all setting and save as a batch file, then rename extension to xml to edit setting to reflect for current title and then rename back to original and open file in encoder and it will read update setting and only thing you have to do know is to press start on gui.

This method also works if you queue multiple files provided you output correct location for files, both input and output with setting such as bitrate for each title.

I forgot to mention I use Mainconcept MVC encoder

[HWK]

@Jdobbs, may I request implementation of three steps process for BD-RB. It is identical to DVD-RB pro version.

It goes something like this
1. Prepare assets which must go through encoder
2. Encode assets
3. Rebuild assets to produce final output

[omegaman7]

I can see future benefits for a prepare option. But rebuilding, not so sure. The third option is a bit redundant. We've discussed this before. Essentially, there's no way to save time on the third step. The third step essentially just redirects files. Very little hard drive overhead. Producing an output path, would actually take more time.

[HWK]

I can see future benefits for a prepare option. But rebuilding, not so sure. The third option is a bit redundant. We've discussed this before. Essentially, there's no way to save time on the third step. The third step essentially just redirects files. Very little hard drive overhead. Producing an output path, would actually take more time.

Not really, I like to make changes to encode options which are not shown in bd-rb config and need to edit lastcmd.bat to reflect change. (such as colormatrix, subme and preset very slow this is just few options which are not available in bd-rb)

With regards to last option I would see if I can create 3d output with help of tsmuxer and mvc encoder. The idea is bd-rb prepare all files for encoding and I redirect them to encode with mvc encoder instead of x264 and rebuild with tsmuxer.

I already did movie only and it works quite well. Also tsmuxer will support creation of iso which will also create ssif file inside stream folder and reference them to m2ts and then pack whole disc creation in iso file. Just like original disc with all menu and extras.

[omegaman7]

Ahh, I thought you meant for general purposes. My bad :o

[HWK]

I feel kind of bad as well since I never made my intention very clear. The encoder I use can handle xml file but little hack is required and if jdobbs can change parameter such as bitrate inside sample xml then I can at least make full blu-ray 3D in automated process.

[k-c-ksum]

I feel kind of bad as well since I never made my intention very clear. The encoder I use can handle xml file but little hack is required and if jdobbs can change parameter such as bitrate inside sample xml then I can at least make full blu-ray 3D in automated process.

not everyone has mainconcept encoder though, x264 though, well..... :)

[HWK]

not everyone has mainconcept encoder though, x264 though, well..... :)

I know but I posted in case jdobbs decide to add three steps process to encode blu-ray. Just like in DVD-RB not everyone had Cinema Craft Encoder as well. However those who own it could use it.

It doesn't hurt to ask if possible at all.

[Seajunk]

Is there any way to get mp4box to do its work in the BD-Rebuilder working path rather than $APPDATA\local\temp during mp4 creation?
My OS is on an ssd and i prefer not to write large files there.

[jdobbs]

Is there any way to get mp4box to do its work in the BD-Rebuilder working path rather than $APPDATA\local\temp during mp4 creation?
My OS is on an ssd and i prefer not to write large files there. I'll have to look at it. I haven't looked to see if it's possible, but I have to believe the location of the temporary files can be adjusted somehow.

[Edit] Looks like its as simple as at "-tmp" command line option...

[BZeeme]

I'm slowly converting my BD and DVD collections to movie only .MKVs. It would be nice if BD-RB's boarder changed color when BD-RB has finished processing the movie - then I could tell from across the room that its ready for the next one.

[omegaman7]

I'm slowly converting my BD and DVD collections to movie only .MKVs. It would be nice if BD-RB's boarder changed color when BD-RB has finished processing the movie - then I could tell from across the room that its ready for the next one.

Interesting. Green for ready, Red for problem.

Perhaps down the road, appropriate skins could be made available. I certainly prefer a Black interface :D

[AmigaFuture]

I'm slowly converting my BD and DVD collections to movie only .MKVs. It would be nice if BD-RB's boarder changed color when BD-RB has finished processing the movie - then I could tell from across the room that its ready for the next one.

I dig the border idea. Sometimes "BEEP_SOUNDFILE=s" "s = The full path of a WAV file to be played upon completion of each job." isn't useful. A visual would be a cool implementation. If JDobbs feels like being compliant. Here's a possible idea... A hidden option for MPC to display an image of "BD-RB Done." or something. A lot less complicated that changing the borders of the program, probably? A thought...

I'm doing the same with movies...and some extras.

[BZeeme]

I'm slowly converting hundreds(?) of DVDs and Blu-rays to MKVs for streaming from XMBC to my tv. XMBC will not recognize the MKVs produced by BD-RB (v0.44.17) unless I run them through mkvmerge to add --engage no_cue_duration and --engage no_cue_relative_position

From the "Bug Reports" thread:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1625776#post1625776
(can't figure out how to make this an actual link)

This change apparently hasn't been implemented (I also checked Hiddenopts.txt). Adding this change would make conversion much easier.

[jdobbs]

I'm slowly converting hundreds(?) of DVDs and Blu-rays to MKVs for streaming from XMBC to my tv. XMBC will not recognize the MKVs produced by BD-RB (v0.44.17) unless I run them through mkvmerge to add --engage no_cue_duration and --engage no_cue_relative_position

From the "Bug Reports" thread:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1625776#post1625776
(can't figure out how to make this an actual link)

This change apparently hasn't been implemented (I also checked Hiddenopts.txt). Adding this change would make conversion much easier. I don't think that's it. Both of those options are enabled for every MKV created by BD-RB. I'd say the most likely change seen by your running MKVMERGE is the inclusion of the default zlib compression which some players appear to need. You should see that included in the next BD-RB release.

[montana72]

In tv series blurays, do is there any command to order to reencode the extras but not the episodes? I.e. Remove quality to the extras but episodes leave them intact.

[louv68]

August 16th, 2013 - v0.44.16

- Added the ability to import multiple DVDs into a single quick-play structure. In order to do this you must put all the desired DVDs into a single folder -- and then select that folder under the IMPORT function. The name of the folder should describe the DVD set and will be used in the quick-play pseudo menu.

If this could be expanded on to include a simple working menu (allow titles in a order you choose), that would be insanely useful to place numerous TV episodes onto one BD disc. Being able to include a menu background would also be a great added touch.

Thank you very much for all your hard work. Superb program.

[AmigaFuture]

[COLOR="Blue"]If this could be expanded on to include a simple working menu (allow titles in a order you choose), that would be insanely useful to place numerous TV episodes onto one BD disc. Being able to include a menu background would also be a great added touch.

Thank you very much for all your hard work. Superb program.

If you prepare to a directory this way or close to it..you'll get what you desire. When it becomes interactive, you'll be able to choose instead of repeatedly pressing remotes Menu.

01.Star Wars - The Phantom Menace
02.Star Wars - Attack of the Clones
03.Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith
04.Star Wars - A New Hope
05.etc..

The "01.Star Wars - The Phantom Menace" is the renamed directory where it was VIDEO_TS after ripping.

[k-c-ksum]

as tsmuxer now supports 3d muxing, is 3d doable in bdrb? A movie only option would probably be the way to go due to the added space requirments of the dependant view?

[Sharc]

as tsmuxer now supports 3d muxing, is 3d doable in bdrb? A movie only option would probably be the way to go due to the added space requirments of the dependant view?
BD-RB already supports 3D as side-by-side or top-bottom.
Even though tsMuxeR is underway for .iso and Blu-Ray MVC structure, we would still need a free (or affordable) MVC encoder. Any recommendation?

[k-c-ksum]

BD-RB already supports 3D as side-by-side or top-bottom.
Even though tsMuxeR is underway for .iso and Blu-Ray MVC structure, we would still need a free (or affordable) MVC encoder. Any recommendation?

there was a patched x264 build by fixstar a few years ago


http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1529465#post1529465

[laserfan]

I've thought for some time now that something was wrong with my BD-RB installation in that when I select it from the Start Menu, often times it seems to hang i.e. does nothing/doesn't launch/no splash screen and I end-up clicking it a few times. After a while I get multiple instances of it on my desktop and I have to close the extras. But then if I quit and re-start immediately it starts just fine. What the...?

Today I had the same startup trouble again, but then I got a pop-up (actually several) that my Beta had expired (I'd been on 44.15). So I suspect my past issues with BD-RB "not launching" were that it was going-onto the 'net to check the revision, and I oft times have ISP issues out here in the extreme country.

Long-winded way of saying...couldn't there be a pop-up on launch that BD-RB is "checking version number" so we know what's going on, or why there might be a long delay. I for one don't care that it does this but maybe jdobbs you don't want people to know?

[jdobbs]

BD-RB doesn't go over the net to check for a new version, it just checks the current date against the expiration date of the beta. I have given thought to implementing that method v.s. the fixed date, though.

Usually if there is a delay in startup it is because one of the referenced drives (location of the exe, working or source folders) is sleeping and the delay is waiting for the drive to be available. Most external drives and many internal drives (depending upon your power settings) shut themselves down after some period of no-use and start up again when the drive is being accessed.

[RobertM]

Usually if there is a delay in startup it is because one of the referenced drives (location of the exe, working or source folders) is sleeping and the delay is waiting for the drive to be available.

Another reason is if the selected disc from the last session takes a long time to scan. I've had a few discs that take quite a while for BD-RB to scan; recently I had one that took about 3 minutes! You just have to wait until the scan is finished and then the GUI pops up.

In an ideal world, BD-RB would include a dialogue that gives the option of cancelling out of the current scan, allowing you to choose a different disc.

[laserfan]

Well, it's NOT that BD-RB is scanning the source disc; that happens after the splash screen. What I am experiencing is that I click on the BD-RB Shortcut in Start menu and there's no reaction--nothing. The Start items still show, and my BD Rebuilder shortcut is highlighted, but it acts like I didn't push the mouse button. But after a long time (10-20, maybe 30 seconds) the Start menu goes away and the BD-RB splash finally occurs and indeed I get more than one of them if I clicked more than once. One other thing I should say about it is that this seems to happen (perhaps) only when I've launched BD-RB for the first time, after a Hibernation or a Reboot. Once it's launched, I can quit and re-launch it all day w/o this strange Start Menu behavior.

RobertM, that a disk scan takes time is something that occurs after the splash screen--I can see that but that's not what I'm experiencing.

Nor do I have the "referenced hard drives are sleeping or spun-down" issue so I will have to noodle this one a bit further. At least I know now that my assumption about "internet" was wrong, thanks for that...

[jdobbs]

Well, it's NOT that BD-RB is scanning the source disc; that happens after the splash screen. What I am experiencing is that I click on the BD-RB Shortcut in Start menu and there's no reaction--nothing. The Start items still show, and my BD Rebuilder shortcut is highlighted, but it acts like I didn't push the mouse button. But after a long time (10-20, maybe 30 seconds) the Start menu goes away and the BD-RB splash finally occurs and indeed I get more than one of them if I clicked more than once. One other thing I should say about it is that this seems to happen (perhaps) only when I've launched BD-RB for the first time, after a Hibernation or a Reboot. Once it's launched, I can quit and re-launch it all day w/o this strange Start Menu behavior.

RobertM, that a disk scan takes time is something that occurs after the splash screen--I can see that but that's not what I'm experiencing.

Nor do I have the "referenced hard drives are sleeping or spun-down" issue so I will have to noodle this one a bit further. At least I know now that my assumption about "internet" was wrong, thanks for that...You're correct. BD-RB puts up the splash screen before it starts to scan the disc. It still sounds like hard drive spin-up to me... let me know what you find.

[omegaman7]

I don't allow any of mine to sleep. Although my USB dock does :S The only slow program I have, is Multiavchd. BD-RB runs perfectly :)