BD-Rebuilder, Feature Requests

[owine]

That is why you rip the disc to the hard drive. ;) If BD-RB did what you request, you are not saving much hard drive space anyway! :cool:

How so? I am simply shrinking directly from the physical disc for my BD25 backup. I am simply looking to skip a step for physical discs I have.

[jdobbs]

I always rip to disc, and then delete after I've reencoded. One thing you'll find for sure is that it runs much faster during encode.

[Capsbackup]

I always rip to disc, and then delete after I've reencoded. One thing you'll find for sure is that it runs much faster during encode.

I think you mean rip "the" disc to your hard drive, be it to iso or to files, then run BD-RB against that rip. :p

[jdobbs]

I think you mean rip "the" disc to your hard drive, be it to iso or to files, then run BD-RB against that rip. :p Exactly. I simply copy the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders to a directory (named as the volume id) on my hard drive.

[Sharc]

I'll look at it.
Any conclusion / chance for implementation?

[jdobbs]

Any conclusion / chance for implementation? It depends which "I'll look at it" you're talking about. There are quite a few of them.

[Sharc]

It depends which "I'll look at it" you're talking about. There are quite a few of them.
This one (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1497357#post1497357), about the filter prefix.

[omegaman7]

The ability to "FORCE_NOENCODE=" on a particular m2ts/playlist? Fairly often, I see BD's that are VERY close to single layer, but not quite. By not reencoding the main title, it would force rebuilder to compress the extras further perhaps.
Although ideally, specifying how much compression per clip would be exquisite. Because often, I see extras with very high bitrates, where they don't need it ;) I believe 1080p extras, will look plenty agreeable at 5000 - 6000KB/s. But I see them pushing 10,000KB/s fairly often.

I apologize if I asked this before. I've had the thought before, but I don't think I asked :o

[Ch3vr0n]

suggestion: remove the "Encoder" menu entry under "settings", since ya cant change the encoder anyway and x264 is very powerfull it seems useless (& redundant) to have it remain in the menu.

[ni9ht_5ta1k3r]

I wonder what would happen if you converted a BD that has video @ 25fps to either 24fps or 30fps. would fps conversion of video kill the disc structure in some way like bookmarks etc?

If FPS conversion does no harm then i want that put in cos I have BDs that are 25, 50fps and i want to make them playable on my Japanese PS3 which doesn't take 25 or 50fps.

[omegaman7]

Here's a thought. I'm currently watching rebuilder encode "The Change-up". [VID_50290] is being mistaken as a Non extra. In other words, I have quick encode for extras checked, and it's taking its time with this video clip(trailer for "Honey 2"). Eventually processors will be significantly faster, making this comment nearly pointless. But at present, most processors require hours to encode.
Since we can preview the clips before using the blanking feature, perhaps we can tell rebuilder that it's an extra manually as well? That way it doesn't have to make the determination itself :) Or perhaps rebuilder simply needs more/wiser code for determining what an extra is. Which may be an easier route eh?

Never really paid attention to how it encodes trailers. Perhaps it simply treats the trailers like the main title.

[Sharc]

From the changes.txt:
June 20th, 2011 - v0.38.4
- Added code to handle non-standard 1080p/25 and
1080p/29.97 sources and use "--fake-interlaced"
in the command line to make them compliant.
I suggest to add 576p/25fps and 480p/29.970fps to this non-standard list to make it compliant.

I tried with DEINTERLACER_TYPE=4 for a 576p/25 case, but it seems to have no effect (the crf encode did not get --fake-interlaced asserted).

[Sharc]

Case: Movie and Menus mode on BD-5.
First of all the recent improvements in auto-menu selection are superb!

Now I noticed that the menus are getting encoded:
a) sometimes like the Feature (i.e. 2-pass or CRF prediction respectively), or
b) sometimes 1-pass using the Quick_CRF
The (large, high bitrate) DTS audio of the menus are always copied intact rather than being recoded to smaller AC3. Therefore case a) may result in blocky menus because of heavy shrinking of the menu video keeping the large DTS audio, whereas b) results in good quality menus as controlled by the Quick_CRF.
So here my questions:
- What is the decision for a) or b) based on?
- Wouldn't it help to convert the DTS audio of the menus to AC3 (i.e. same as the feature audio) in order to free up bitrate for the menu video?
- or just always use Quick_CRF for the menu video stream encoding to prevent blocky menus?

[jdobbs]

Case: Movie and Menus mode on BD-5.
First of all the recent improvements in auto-menu selection are superb!

Now I noticed that the menus are getting encoded:
a) sometimes like the Feature (i.e. 2-pass or CRF prediction respectively), or
b) sometimes 1-pass using the Quick_CRF
The (large, high bitrate) DTS audio of the menus are always copied intact rather than being recoded to smaller AC3. Therefore case a) may result in blocky menus because of heavy shrinking of the menu video keeping the large DTS audio, whereas b) results in good quality menus as controlled by the Quick_CRF.
So here my questions:
- What is the decision for a) or b) based on?
- Wouldn't it help to convert the DTS audio of the menus to AC3 (i.e. same as the feature audio) in order to free up bitrate for the menu video?
- or just always use Quick_CRF for the menu video stream encoding to prevent blocky menus? Menu audio will always be kept intact -- not doing so can cause a host of issues.

Menus are encoded at whatever setting you have selected for "Extras".

[Sharc]

Menu audio will always be kept intact -- not doing so can cause a host of issues.
ok, understood.

Menus are encoded at whatever setting you have selected for "Extras".
Even in "Movie and Menus only" mode? I had some cases (e.g. the lincoln lawyer) where the menu is encoded like the feature, i.e. 2-pass or 1-pass crf predictive depending on my settings for the feature, although I always had "Quicker" Encode for Extras enabled.

[omegaman7]

I started an encode a few minutes ago, and then changed my mind about the file size output. Is there really a need for the program to re-extract from the main folder? The .264 file/s, .sup/s, etc shouldn't change at all. But then I know nothing about the .264 standard in this regard. If I were doing a major change to the job, I would understand. But I'm merely converting to a single MKV output. Surely all that needed to be changed would be the setup file, script files(?), and .temp files. Just curious really. The transfer/conversion of the m2ts file only takes a couple minutes with multi drive setups. Just thought I'd throw this out there ;)

[jdobbs]

I started an encode a few minutes ago, and then changed my mind about the file size output. Is there really a need for the program to re-extract from the main folder? The .264 file/s, .sup/s, etc shouldn't change at all. But then I know nothing about the .264 standard in this regard. If I were doing a major change to the job, I would understand. But I'm merely converting to a single MKV output. Surely all that needed to be changed would be the setup file, script files(?), and .temp files. Just curious really. The transfer/conversion of the m2ts file only takes a couple minutes with multi drive setups. Just thought I'd throw this out there ;)

What if you did it after a couple of M2TSs had already been processed? What if the new output size would make it possible to not need any processing? There are a number of reasons why it has to start over.

[omegaman7]

LOL, I guess I knew there was something. Honestly, the kind of code i'm thinking of, is near pointless, and a waste of time anyway. Most people know exactly what they're shooting for, when they click backup. I guess it was just in my face, having to retransfer the files ;)

[jfcarbel]

Small requests, but I believe would improve usability:

1) Please, ability to resize main window.

2) Add duration to VID items

Example (where 4:05 is duration of this stream/VID element):
VID_00380 MPEG-2, 480i, 29.97fps, 4:05, 112.85MB

This will make it easier to identify the extras we want to keep on an extras backup disc without having to preview.

[Yannes]

I'm currently trying to add an audio track to a blu-ray disk but without losing the menu. The problem is that when I remux the audio in the movie file, the referenced mpls file that triggers the playback of the movie file doesn't notice the new remuxed audio. This is probably because I tried to change an AC3 for a DTS-HD track.

I've tried to create the blu-ray with MultiAVCHD to keep the menu and meanwhile change the audio, but only the menu background video ends up in the new blu-ray: the menu itself is gone. This is probably because the multiavchd doesn't recognise the m2ts files because they don't contain video, just the menu text.

So I was wondering of there is any chance that you could add a function to add/remove audio files of specific movie files in the blu-ray. BD rebuilder seems the only option to keep the menu intact.

This has been asked before (here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=153343)), I hope you can add this feature to make this tool perfect.

[SquallMX]

I'm currently trying to add an audio track to a blu-ray disk but without losing the menu. The problem is that when I remux the audio in the movie file, the referenced mpls file that triggers the playback of the movie file doesn't notice the new remuxed audio. This is probably because I tried to change an AC3 for a DTS-HD track.

I've tried to create the blu-ray with MultiAVCHD to keep the menu and meanwhile change the audio, but only the menu background video ends up in the new blu-ray: the menu itself is gone. This is probably because the multiavchd doesn't recognise the m2ts files because they don't contain video, just the menu text.

So I was wondering of there is any chance that you could add a function to add/remove audio files of specific movie files in the blu-ray. BD rebuilder seems the only option to keep the menu intact.

This has been asked before (here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=153343)), I hope you can add this feature to make this tool perfect.

Little off-topic, but about your problem, you can use BDEdit to Fix the MLPS references, with just a couple of clicks you can modify the audio track order and correct the audio track format from DD (Dolby) to DTS-HD XLL (DTS Master Audio).

[Yannes]

Little off-topic, but about your problem, you can use BDEdit to Fix the MLPS references, with just a couple of clicks you can modify the audio track order and correct the audio track format from DD (Dolby) to DTS-HD XLL (DTS Master Audio).

I tried that, I changed the audio to DTS-HD XLL in the playlist files, then applied it to the clipinfo and saved both. But when I try to playback the blu-ray, as soon as I click a title, it just gets stuck with the menu background and no sound/video is shown.

BDinfo seems to recognize the DTS-HD MA audio, but scanning the bitrates doesn't work.

[SquallMX]

I tried that, I changed the audio to DTS-HD XLL in the playlist files, then applied it to the clipinfo and saved both. But when I try to playback the blu-ray, as soon as I click a title, it just gets stuck with the menu background and no sound/video is shown.

BDinfo seems to recognize the DTS-HD MA audio, but scanning the bitrates doesn't work.

Thats because you're using the original CLPI, you have to replace it with the one created by tsmuxer, make sure the name (number) is the same, also if the start timecode used by the original file is not "00:10:00.000 " (most professional titles use 00:00:11.655 or something like that) you will need to change that too otherwise the movie duration will be off.

If you need more help create a new thread in order to avoid the "off-topicness".

[kristian65]

Hi i have a request i would like to add if possible and its a pause/start button between demuxing and rmts muxing if no reencode needed.

Maybe its a stramge request but i put forced flags on subs in BDsup2sub because in movie only somehow forced flags dissapear for me.
so if there is a pause button i can replace the demuxed sub with my forced flags sub and dont have to mux manualy my self.

[RobertM]

Hi JDobbs,

Small suggestion regarding page 1 of the "Bug Reports" thread; could you include the version number for the Haali link. The FFDSHOW and AVISYNTH links show the version number, so it is easy to see if those need to be updated with any new BD-RB release. To decide if the Haali version has changed I have to download it and compare it to my currently installed version.

Thanks.

[jdobbs]

Hi JDobbs,

Small suggestion regarding page 1 of the "Bug Reports" thread; could you include the version number for the Haali link. The FFDSHOW and AVISYNTH links show the version number, so it is easy to see if those need to be updated with any new BD-RB release. To decide if the Haali version has changed I have to download it and compare it to my currently installed version.

Thanks. Sounds reasonable.

[Ch3vr0n]

I got a small feature request that hopefully should be to hard to do. I often need to take a look at the BDRB logfile for a disc i did on a certain day (with eg blanking) but had to abort and i have processed a different one after it. Now the thing is, i often know what disc it is but not what day i processed it. The BDRB logfile only mentiones the time of a job right now, so my request is if you could somehow alter the logfile appearance to look something like this.

Eg:
From
[22:37:43] BD Rebuilder v0.40.02 (beta)
- Source: FRIENDS_WITH_BENEFITS
- Input BD size: 34,21 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:58:01.168]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB

To:

[dd/mm/yy] BD Rebuilder v0.40.02 (beta)
[22:37:43] Source: FRIENDS_WITH_BENEFITS
- Input BD size: 34,21 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:58:01.168]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB


Or:

[dd/mm/yy]
[22:37:43] BD Rebuilder v0.40.02 (beta)
- Source: FRIENDS_WITH_BENEFITS
- Input BD size: 34,21 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:58:01.168]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB

That way retrieving a disc from the log would be much faster, and reselecting the previously blanked out clips would be much easier and there would not be a need to preview them again.

[jdobbs]

I got a small feature request that hopefully should be to hard to do. I often need to take a look at the BDRB logfile for a disc i did on a certain day (with eg blanking) but had to abort and i have processed a different one after it. Now the thing is, i often know what disc it is but not what day i processed it. The BDRB logfile only mentiones the time of a job right now, so my request is if you could somehow alter the logfile appearance to look something like this.

Eg:
From


To:


Or:


That way retrieving a disc from the log would be much faster, and reselecting the previously blanked out clips would be much easier and there would not be a need to preview them again. I can do that.

[omegaman7]

I would be interested in that as well. Often, I find myself hunting through the log, for particular reasons. A date would be helpful. No need to reply, just showing my interest ;)

[Capsbackup]

Along these lines of keeping the log file for BD-RB completed jobs, would it be possible to keep a copy of the log file, perhaps in a seperate folder like the "Misc" and "Tools" folder, of all jobs performed by BD-RB? Might be a different .txt file that has been named by date and number for each separate job. I know this folder could get filled with lots of .txt files, but at least there would be another location to have saved the previous log file for reference! :)
Too many times I delete the working folders after completion of a backup and there goes the log file! :(

[KarstenS]

Something would be nice: disk merging.

I am rebuilding my movies for storing them on my MediaCenter. But there are some movies, I would like to do this different: Lord of the Rings Extended Edition.

All three main movies are split to 2 BD50. For my MediaCenter I would like to get them together, to get only one icon for one movie and for seamless playback of the whole movie.

Just an idea. Maybe there are other movies too.

[SquallMX]

Another one, a "No re-encode" option for the Edit Mode, sometimes you can fit a disc onto a BD25 just by re-compressing the bonus materials.

:thanks:

[omegaman7]

another one, a "no re-encode" option for the edit mode, sometimes you can fit a disc onto a bd25 just by re-compressing the bonus materials.

:thanks:

+1 :)

[stefandee2k]

Hi,
I'm looking for an option for convert only one or some DTS track to AC3, but not all the track.
Sometimes you can fit a disc onto a BD25 just by re-compressing a DTS-HD track to AC3.

I've checked the hidden option and the Faq, but I haven't found anythink about my request.

Thanks

stefandee

[jdobbs]

Hi,
I'm looking for an option for convert only one or some DTS track to AC3, but not all the track.
Sometimes you can fit a disc onto a BD25 just by re-compressing a DTS-HD track to AC3.

I've checked the hidden option and the Faq, but I haven't found anythink about my request.

Thanks

stefandee There currently is no option to do that. You either select none or all to be converted.

[stefandee2k]

There currently is no option to do that. You either select none or all to be converted.

Can you insert in future an option that allows this selection ?

[jdobbs]

Can you insert in future an option that allows this selection ? I can, but I can't say when.

[HatchetMan]

Been using BD-RB for over a year, but just getting into the whole MKV thing now that I have my unRAID and a couple HTPC's up and running. I was using MakeMKV to do DVD rips keeping the original audio and video intact, BD-RB for the HD re-encodes of course. Only problem with MakeMKV was the subs. Playing them back in several different programs, they were either on or off, no way to distinguish between leaving on only the forced subs (though I have since read a way to have MPC-HC display only the forced subs in the language of your choice). Even a simple DVDShrink rip would display only the forced subs when selecting 'let my player decide' (but obviously no MKV option).

I then went on to HandBrake which I had previously only used for my iPOD conversions. Selecting high profile, mkv output, and crf of 18 gave me great outcomes - excellent video quality and small file sizes. Why I was drawn to it vs. several other proggies was for the option to burn in forced subs only. This was a popular feature for some folks with players that did not handle subs very well, figured I fell into that same category, and have strictly used it for all my DVD to MKV conversions since.

Now that I am using BD-RB to do MKV for the HD rips, Real Steel came out fantastic btw, I would love to see the option to burn in forced subs only, like that of District 9 for the alien speak. (Handbrake does not handle the BD subs). And for the times when I do not know if there are any, it would simply not burn them in, because there were none that were forced, even though the option was ticked. And some may even appreciate the alternative to burn in the entire subtitle track for foreign films. Just a thought, I would certainly appreciate the burn in forced subs option :-) Thanks Jdobbs!

[setarip_old]

@HatchetMan

Hi!

Do you have any idea how difficult it is to read your post? (Think PARAGRAPHS)...

[HatchetMan]

Like the 720p 448kbps ac3 mkv option for tv shows and 1080p 640kbps ac3 mkv option for my movies.

How about a 1080p 448kbps ac3 mkv option for those chick flicks or really old/restored films where you just can't tell the difference in audio anyways but love the perfect HD vid?

[Sharc]

A hidden option to force menus encoding at a fix (user defined) crf.

[jdobbs]

A hidden option to force menus encoding at a fix (user defined) crf. It will currently use the value of QUICK_CRF=nn if you have that set.

[Sharc]

It will currently use the value of QUICK_CRF=nn if you have that set.
I have set it, but menus are encoded using crf prediction -- same as feature (I am using 1-pass crf encoding).

Added:
When I select 2-pass encode for the feature, menus are also encoded 2-pass although QUICK_CRF=nn is set and Quick encode for extras is selected.

[jdobbs]

I have set it, but menus are encoded using crf prediction -- same as feature (I am using 1-pass crf encoding).

Added:
When I select 2-pass encode for the feature, menus are also encoded 2-pass although QUICK_CRF=nn is set and Quick encode for extras is selected. That probably means BD-RB isn't recognizing them as menus -- that can happen easily on BD-J menus. There's really nothing on the disc that says "I'm a menu" -- it's more of an educated guess based upon several factors.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Kudos on the raft of new capabilities you've added over the past few updates at a fast and furious pace - I hope you don't burn yourself out before the DTSExpress conundrum is solved ;>}

[Sharc]

That probably means BD-B isn't recognizing them as menus -- that can happen easily on BD-J menus. There's really nothing on the disc that says "I'm a menu" -- it's more of an educated guess based upon several factors.
How about an "anything but the feature" rule?
Means if I set QUICK_CRF=nn AND select "Quicker encode for Extras" the menus and the Extras (i.e. anything but the feature) will be encoded using the QUICK_CRF=nn setting?

[jdobbs]

How about an "anything but the feature" rule?
Means if I set QUICK_CRF=nn AND select "Quicker encode for Extras" the menus and the Extras (i.e. anything but the feature) will be encoded using the QUICK_CRF=nn setting? I'll look at it. The problem is that BD-RB also has to keep an eye on the ratio of extras to feature. On some discs a higher CRF could result in little or no space for the feature.

[Ch3vr0n]

Havent run an encode lately (the last couple versions) but saw in that DGenc thread that you implemented my date suggestion. Just wanted to say thx for doing so. It will make searching for an encode alot faster (whenever you added that :))

[Ch3vr0n]

update. Just started an encode and took a look at the date. I noticed it's using the US dateformat mm/dd/yyyy. I was wondering if it was possible to have BDRB respect the windows localisation setting. Cause the default for belgium : dd/mm/yy (day first).

[jdobbs]

update. Just started an encode and took a look at the date. I noticed it's using the US dateformat mm/dd/yyyy. I was wondering if it was possible to have BDRB respect the windows localisation setting. Cause the default for belgium : dd/mm/yy (day first). Hmm... didn't think of that. I'll have to look -- I think the automatic formatting accepts it in a fixed dd/mm/yyyy or mm/dd/yyyy format. I'm pretty sure there's a way, I just need to do some quick research.