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chudm
27th December 2010, 22:11
You can do that now. Select "Keep HD" from the SETUP page, and then add KEEP_HD_LPCM=0 to your INI file. It will keep all HD except LPCM, and LPCM will be converted to AC3.

thx! :)

The_Unknown
1st January 2011, 11:41
Is there any plan to implement nVidia CUDA support? I just encoded a disk using DVDFab and it's really fast (I hope the result is satisfying, too ;)). I would love to see CUDA support in BD-RB.

jdobbs
1st January 2011, 14:25
Nope. I don't believe in locking into a product, and never will. Experiment as you wish, but I think you'll find that nothing can compete with X264 for quality/speed.

The_Unknown
1st January 2011, 14:29
Mhm, indeed the result of DVDFab was not satisfying. The encoding took "only" about 2 hours but the quality is pretty bad afterwards (and in addition: the DTS Express (in-movie-experience) doesn't work as well). BD Rebuilder is still the best solution :) I hope that soon there will be a way to keep the in-movie-experience audio track.

jdobbs
1st January 2011, 14:37
Mhm, indeed the result of DVDFab was not satisfying. The encoding took "only" about 2 hours but the quality is pretty bad afterwards (and in addition: the DTS Express (in-movie-experience) doesn't work as well). BD Rebuilder is still the best solution :) I hope that soon there will be a way to keep the in-movie-experience audio track. Soon.

The_Unknown
1st January 2011, 14:43
That sounds great. Are you able to make a guess what "soon" could mean in days, weeks or months?

P.S.: I think you'll get a donation of mine for your great work! ;)

sreemv
11th January 2011, 20:57
couple of quick questions/requests on some feature enhancements:

1] Is it possible to do Full backup with a few selected things removed?
2] Can we add/replace an audio/sub track in any mode?

jfcarbel
14th January 2011, 07:57
One other feature request would be the ability to select a frame and have it cut out the video from that frame forward or backward in order to cut the end or starting credits. Tsmuxer supports this and it seems to be working well in multiAVCHD.

Another nice feature - Ability to create a bonus materials DVD-5/DVD-9 BD, that is, everything but the main movie and keeping menus.

m1482
20th January 2011, 13:02
One request to make this program even better may be to have the ability to have a AC3 passthrough option and adding subtitles when using the "iPad alternate MP4 HD output option". The actual option gaves me excellent video quality when using Apple TV (better than Handbrake). New Apple TV can pass AC3 streams and multiple subtitles.

jdobbs, thanks for this excellent program !!!

laserfan
27th January 2011, 18:02
I tried BD-RB with a series disc, four 1080p 50min episodes on a DVD+R DL, but while the target bitrate was decent at about 4400 each, I got some noticeable GOP pulsing on playback. I had tried to use my normal settings for lower bitrate programs, via TWEAK_PASS_ONE/TWO, but BD-RB trumped --keyint 48 --rc-lookahead 50 (would result in 48) for BD-content-on-DVD, instead forcing these to 24. Maybe the problem? in any case...

1. According to member shon3i (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=154533) 48 frames per GOP is legal for a 24p program on DVD; could you allow that please for DVD output, or

2. Just leave the user's TWEAK settings alone and let us shoot ourselves in the foot/head if we want? ;)

I know jdobbs you do not wish to allow the TWEAK settings at all, but since you note X264 Tweak(s) enabled in the logs you can see when a user TWEAKed and can disavow all results anyway...? Well, thanks for listening. :)

Here fwiw are tweak, cmd, & info lines, not sure why my rc-lookahead tweak didn't "take" (since it shows in BD-RB's command line), it should have ended-up at 48:
TWEAK_PASS_ONE=--preset medium --tune grain --keyint 48 --min-keyint 1 --rc-lookahead 50 --vbv-maxrate 15000 --vbv-bufsize 15000
--pass 1 --direct auto --colorprim bt709 --transfer bt709 --colormatrix bt709
TWEAK_PASS_TWO=--preset medium --tune grain --keyint 48 --min-keyint 1 --rc-lookahead 50 --vbv-maxrate 15000 --vbv-bufsize 15000
--pass 2 --direct auto --me umh --subme 9 --colorprim bt709 --transfer bt709 --colormatrix bt709

"C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00009.AVS" --preset medium --b-pyramid strict --weightp 2
--open-gop bluray --qpmin=0 --bitrate 4422 --level 4.1 --qpfile "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00009.CHP" --sar 1:1
--aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 14500 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 17500
--threads auto --slices 4 --thread-input --tune grain --rc-lookahead 50 --direct auto --me umh --subme 9
--stats "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00009.AVS.264.stats" --pass 2 --output "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00009.AVS.264"

Encoding settings: cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:-2:-2 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.25 /
mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=6,6 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-4 /
threads=6 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=4 / nr=0 / decimate=0 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 /
b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=2 / weightp=2 / keyint=24 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 /
rc_lookahead=24 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=4422 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.80 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 /
qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=17500 / vbv_bufsize=14500 / ip_ratio=1.10 / aq=1:0.50 / nal_hrd=vbr

jdobbs
27th January 2011, 18:56
I think there might be some confusion... as a 48 frame GOP is never legal on a DVD. But we're talking about BD format here so I assume that's what you mean.

I do prevent some tweak parameters from being used... mainly the ones (like keyint) that can violate the standard and cause a disc to not work.

In BD the maximum keyint would depend on your bitrate. The specification allows a GOP whose period is longer than 1 second only on condition that the maximum bit-rate of an MPEG-4 AVC stream is less than or equal to 15Mbs and in that case the GOP can be up to 2 seconds. So by setting the max to 15Mbs you can theoretically set the GOP to 48 on a 23.976fps source.

By default, BD-RB sets the maximum bitrate to 17.5Mbs when outputting to BD-5/9 -- and at that bitrate a 48 frame GOP would be illegal. My reasoning is that when encoding HD at low bitrates a higher maximum bitrate is more important than a larger GOP -- as you might need that additional peak at some points to keep quality. That, however, is arguable -- especially when the difference is only a couple of megabits/sec.

Frankly, though, I don't think it would make much difference. If you are seeing pulsing, changing the GOP size would likely only make it happen at a lesser rate -- and possibly even make it worse. Your problem is more likely ipratio and/or pbratio, which balances the quality between I, P, and B frames. Pulsing usually indicates that the quality is degrading over the course of the GOP and then "corrects" at the I frame and starts degrading over again.

laserfan
27th January 2011, 21:15
I think there might be some confusion... as a 48 frame GOP is never legal on a DVD. But we're talking about BD format here so I assume that's what you mean.
Yeah, I did say "BD-content-on-DVD" and should have said "BD-format-on-DVD".

setting the max to 15Mbs you can theoretically set the GOP to 48 on a 23.976fps source.
For BD-format-on-DVD I have always set it that way, keyint 48 along with 15000/15000 and I never set my average bitrate above 7500 for-whatever-that's-worth. I do appreciate your reply. I'd wondered why you'd set your vbv-maxrate to 17500 and now I know; my only concern might be that I see nothing in shon3i's specs to support your use of this on DVD media?

I should convert the BD "by hand" (a long-time DVD-RB user, I only very rarely have tried using BD-RB, sorry :o) and see if the pulsing goes away, though for as many times as I've done low-bitrate encodings I've never seen this before. You may be right that the longer keyint has nichts to do w/the pulsing, but while I can appreciate that you are trying to make your proggie to "play by the rules" it seems that these other "DVD-only" settings should be allowed.

Sorry for the long post(s)--all about TWEAK_ that is there only out of your good will in the 1st place...! :)

jdobbs
27th January 2011, 21:24
I'd wondered why you'd set your vbv-maxrate to 17500 and now I know; my only concern might be that I see nothing in shon3i's specs to support your use of this on DVD media? I use the BD and AVCHD specs for all my work. My guess is that shon3i purposely set the max to 15Mbs just so he can use longer GOPs.

shon3i
27th January 2011, 22:42
I use the BD and AVCHD specs for all my work. My guess is that shon3i purposely set the max to 15Mbs just so he can use longer GOPs.
And i don't see purpose of usage, using anything higher than 15mbps when avg bitrate is not even higher than 5mbps in 99.9% cases. Anyway setting maxrate to 17 mbps but leave buffer at 14mbps will not even enhance quality because will be very very short spikes, --vbv-bufsize 14500 came from HDDVD specification (it's max for AVC), but AVCHD can use more than that.

Pulsing more likely will be solved with OpenGOP.

jdobbs
27th January 2011, 23:10
And i don't see purpose of usage, using anything higher than 15mbps when avg bitrate is not even higher than 5mbps in 99.9% cases. Anyway setting maxrate to 17 mbps but leave buffer at 14mbps will not even enhance quality because will be very very short spikes, --vbv-bufsize 14500 came from HDDVD specification (it's max for AVC), but AVCHD can use more than that.

Pulsing more likely will be solved with OpenGOP. Even at 5Mbs, there are lots of opportunities for spikes to go up to the maximum bitrate -- and it will do it for as long as it takes (as long as the average can be kept and the buffer doesn't overflow). Setting the buffer to the same size as the bitrate as opposed to 14500/17500 isn't going to extend the tolerance for a spike to any appreciable degree. But I agree that the difference between 15Mbs and 17.5Mbs probably also isn't enough to make any meaningful difference either.

Anyway -- I've added an option in the next release to allow 48 frame GOPs with a maximum bitrate of 15Mbs.

BD-RB has the option to use open GOPs.

laserfan
27th January 2011, 23:33
I've added an option in the next release to allow 48 frame GOPs with a maximum bitrate of 15Mbs.

BD-RB has the option to use open GOPs.Yup and I used that option with my encoding, though I do wonder where I'd find the secret codes that are used in the x264 header e.g. in this case "/ open_gop=2". Does anyone know where to confirm that this means "bluray"?

Thanks jdobbs for your interest in this. Will try the next version for sure. :)

nurbs
28th January 2011, 11:17
open_gop=2 is the Blu Ray compatible one. You can check that in the x264 help ("x264 --fullhelp").

jdobbs
28th January 2011, 16:15
open_gop=2 is the Blu Ray compatible one. You can check that in the x264 help ("x264 --fullhelp").

And the way you activate it is with the command line option "--open-gop bluray"

laserfan
28th January 2011, 16:57
open_gop=2 is the Blu Ray compatible one. You can check that in the x264 help ("x264 --fullhelp").I know how to set the option--I was looking for the info header to confirm it. But...fullhelp says only this:

--open-gop <string> Use recovery points to close GOPs [none]
- none: closed GOPs only
- normal: standard open GOPs
(not Blu-ray compatible)
- bluray: Blu-ray-compatible open GOPs
So I am supposed to guess then that 1 means "normal" and 2 means "bluray"? This isn't the only setting that is abbreviated in the x264 header--perhaps the answers I want are in the source code for x264...

jdobbs
28th January 2011, 18:49
I know how to set the option--I was looking for the info header to confirm it. But...fullhelp says only this:

--open-gop <string> Use recovery points to close GOPs [none]
- none: closed GOPs only
- normal: standard open GOPs
(not Blu-ray compatible)
- bluray: Blu-ray-compatible open GOPs
So I am supposed to guess then that 1 means "normal" and 2 means "bluray"? This isn't the only setting that is abbreviated in the x264 header--perhaps the answers I want are in the source code for x264...Just go this site (http://mewiki.project357.com/wiki/X264_Settings). It's always kept up-to-date. When those values are shown they represent what is kept internally.

laserfan
28th January 2011, 19:35
Just go this site (http://mewiki.project357.com/wiki/X264_Settings). It's always kept up-to-date. When those values are shown they represent what is kept internally.We're not communicating. Another example; I ask in my x264 command for --direct auto, and into the header is written / direct=3 /. Here is what the site says about it:

direct

Default: 'spatial'

Set prediction mode for 'direct' motion vectors. There are two modes available: spatial and temporal. You can also select none to disable direct MVs, and auto to allow x264 to swap between them as it sees fit. If you set auto, x264 outputs information on the usage at the end of the encode. 'auto' works best in a 2pass encode, but will work in single-pass encodes too. In first-pass auto mode, x264 keeps a running average of how well each method has so far performed, and picks the next prediction mode from that. Note that you should only enable auto on the second pass if it was enabled on the first pass; if it wasn't, the second pass will default to temporal. Direct none wastes bits and is strongly discouraged.

Recommendation: 'auto' Now, where in that paragraph is it confirmed that / direct=3 / means the 'auto' that I requested?

jdobbs
28th January 2011, 19:47
We're not communicating. Another example; I ask in my x264 command for --direct auto, and into the header is written / direct=3 /. Here is what the site says about it:

Now, where in that paragraph is it confirmed that / direct=3 / means the 'auto' that I requested? I know what you're saying, I guess I just don't get the point. If you set it to "bluray" on the command line, and the printout says "2" then "2" means "bluray". I'm obviously missing something...

I guess the easiest way to confirm what value means which setting if you don't have access to the command line is by looking at the source code.

laserfan
28th January 2011, 22:09
I know what you're saying, I guess I just don't get the point. If you set it to "bluray" on the command line, and the printout says "2" then "2" means "bluray". I'm obviously missing something...Where we started was: I tried using TWEAK_PASS_XXX in my .INI file, and found that BD-RB ignored some of my settings. So I was simply looking for confirmation in the re-encoded file that all my inputs indeed resulted in the output I'd requested. And some of them ain't obvious cuz numbers are used instead of the original option text. That's all. Not a BD-RB issue at all, just something that's bugged me and came to a head when BD-RB didn't follow my TWEAK lines.

Rich86
4th February 2011, 20:15
First - thanks so much for making this terrific program available.
I am new to burning blu-rays, and still learning, so if I make a dumb suggestion or ask a dumb question, please forgive.

1. I can't find a way to include more than 1 title when processing. It seems to be "all" or 1 title only. Although I am focused on the highest quality output, sometimes the main title even with HD audio still leaves a bit of room on 25gb media, and an extra or 2 might be included on the end (like deleted scenes, which are usually my first choice to include as an extra, if there is room). Is there some way multiple titles could be selected and played in a chosen sequence kind of like DVDShrink handles it for DVD with no menus? This question applies to both 25gb blu-ray output and "alternate" outputs (DVD playable on a regular DVD player specifically).

2. When I process to a blu-ray output, I understand my options are for the main title to repeat or let the player stop at the end of the title playback. But for some reason, when I process to alternate output (DVD-5, for example) the player is left in pause mode at the end of the title instead of stopping. Is there a setting I'm missing?

Thanks.

jdobbs
4th February 2011, 20:36
First - thanks so much for making this terrific program available.
I am new to burning blu-rays, and still learning, so if I make a dumb suggestion or ask a dumb question, please forgive.

1. I can't find a way to include more than 1 title when processing. It seems to be "all" or 1 title only. Although I am focused on the highest quality output, sometimes the main title even with HD audio still leaves a bit of room on 25gb media, and an extra or 2 might be included on the end (like deleted scenes, which are usually my first choice to include as an extra, if there is room). Is there some way multiple titles could be selected and played in a chosen sequence kind of like DVDShrink handles it for DVD with no menus? This question applies to both 25gb blu-ray output and "alternate" outputs (DVD playable on a regular DVD player specifically).

2. When I process to a blu-ray output, I understand my options are for the main title to repeat or let the player stop at the end of the title playback. But for some reason, when I process to alternate output (DVD-5, for example) the player is left in pause mode at the end of the title instead of stopping. Is there a setting I'm missing?

Thanks.1. The choice is to either do a full backup or a single title to movie-only mode. Adding individual extras, etc. would involve having to create menus of some type. I may do that at some point in the future, but right now it's just more than I planned.

2. I hadn't noticed what you've mentioned on DVD output. I usually just stop it myself when the credits start. I'll take a look at the DVD output and see if I can change it to stop rather than pause.

Rich86
4th February 2011, 20:47
1. The choice is to either do a full backup or a single title to movie-only mode. Adding individual extras, etc. would involve having to create menus of some type. I may do that at some point in the future, but right now it's just more than I planned.

2. I hadn't noticed what you've mentioned on DVD output. I usually just stop it myself when the credits start. I'll take a look at the DVD output and see if I can change it to stop rather than pause.

I didn't realize that multiple titles would require menus. I had just assumed it could play titles in sequence without a menu like a DVD can.
Also - I used pgcedit to look at the output DVD title I was playing with. The ending code is "exit" (0301) which would seem to be correct?
I'm burning the disc again to test. Thanks.
Update: burned disc again, played, pauses at end of title, press play on remote, then it ends and goes to player logo.

jdobbs
5th February 2011, 00:47
I didn't realize that multiple titles would require menus. I had just assumed it could play titles in sequence without a menu like a DVD can.
Also - I used pgcedit to look at the output DVD title I was playing with. The ending code is "exit" (0301) which would seem to be correct?
I'm burning the disc again to test. Thanks.
Update: burned disc again, played, pauses at end of title, press play on remote, then it ends and goes to player logo. You could string them together, sure -- but that's kinda' cludgy, don't you think?

I can make it end easy enough.

Rich86
5th February 2011, 01:44
You could string them together, sure -- but that's kinda' cludgy, don't you think?

I can make it end easy enough.

For me, who only does this to use up available space on the media being burned if the main title does not need additional compression, stringing them together is fine. I'm not willing to sacrifice any video or audio quality in order to have menus or extras. It would be important that the main title selected play first, and others follow it. The title I was messing around with actually had 4 different versions of the main title indicated, so I had to choose the correct one. A nice to have would have been being able to choose the correct main title and then add a couple of the other "extras" titles behind it, since the main title left room on the 25gb media. But I realize many folks are more attached to menus than I am.

Just to clarify: an output BD25 "main title only" plays fine - the disc stops playing after the movie is done leaving the player logo on the screen.
The issue only happens with "alternate" output format (specifically I noticed it on a DVD-5 that was created) where it goes into "pause" after the title finishes playing and you have to press "play" for it to actually end.
Thanks.

laserfan
5th February 2011, 16:30
I'm not willing to sacrifice any video or audio quality in order to have menus or extras.
You can make a very nice HD menu with audio for <5Mb, which is less-than-trivial for any size disc (even DVD-5 much less a BD-25). No sacrifice required; none at all.:p

jdobbs
5th February 2011, 17:19
I guess I just don't subscribe to the "fill-it-to-the-edge" mentality and a simple menu isn't going to affect quality. It's a little like peeing in the ocean and then worrying about how much the water has risen.

Rich86
5th February 2011, 17:56
I guess I just don't subscribe to the "fill-it-to-the-edge" mentality and a simple menu isn't going to affect quality. It's a little like peeing in the ocean and then worrying about how much the water has risen.

I understand. I wasn't aware menus take up so little space. But it sounded like building menus was a problem or significant effort and that was why including the option for multiple titles on the created disc was not available in your program. I was just suggesting that if offering multiple titles without a menu was easy, it might have some value to the users. Not complaining - just offering suggestions for added features. Thanks.

jdobbs
5th February 2011, 18:01
I've modified the authoring so DVD output doesn't pause at the end of play for the next release.

Menus are a pain, because in order to make them truly useful, you have to give the user some control over how they function -- and that's where the work is. The goal of BD Rebuilder isn't to reauthor -- only to backup.

But they (menus) are small. :)

Rich86
5th February 2011, 21:01
I've modified the authoring so DVD output doesn't pause at the end of play for the next release. :)

Awesome - thanks!

KarstenS
10th February 2011, 12:06
Would be nice, to see in the list when selecting alternative playlist in movie-only mode, to see, what language the default subtitle has in this playlist. Is interesting for multilingual BDs with different playlists for different languages (for example many Disney movies).

But only, when it works.

jdobbs
10th February 2011, 15:57
Would be nice, to see in the list when selecting alternative playlist in movie-only mode, to see, what language the default subtitle has in this playlist. Is interesting for multilingual BDs with different playlists for different languages (for example many Disney movies).

But only, when it works. I'm not sure I can even find that without writing something that might interpret commands through a virtual machine -- and that's just not feasible. If you know of another way, let me know.

Rich86
10th February 2011, 16:34
I've modified the authoring so DVD output doesn't pause at the end of play for the next release.

I guess this change did not make it into the 37.04 version, as the DVD alternate output still goes into pause at the end of the title playback - and you must press play again to have the disc complete. I'll throw a post into the bug section about it.

jdobbs
10th February 2011, 17:03
I guess this change did not make it into the 37.04 version, as the DVD alternate output still goes into pause at the end of the title playback - and you must press play again to have the disc complete. I'll throw a post into the bug section about it. Hmmm... it should be. Look in the ALTERNATE.XML file. It should have an entry for the VOB that says "pause="0"". I'll go back and test it.

Rich86
10th February 2011, 17:10
Hmmm... it should be. Look in the ALTERNATE.XML file. It should have an entry for the VOB that says "pause="0"". I'll go back and test it.

Yes - I see it there in the workfile area. But the actual DVD output files in the Video_TS folder look the same as they did with the 37.03 version - the only command there is a 0301 post command, and the DVD player behaves the same as before.

jdobbs
10th February 2011, 18:53
Yes - I see it there in the workfile area. But the actual DVD output files in the Video_TS folder look the same as they did with the 37.03 version - the only command there is a 0301 post command, and the DVD player behaves the same as before. What kind of player?

Rich86
10th February 2011, 18:58
What kind of player?

Sony DVP-NC85H.
I can test the disc in a HD-DVD or BD player also if you think the issue is player specific (but I've never had this problem before with a burned title).

jdobbs
10th February 2011, 19:05
Sony DVP-NC85H.
I can test the disc in a HD-DVD or BD player also if you think the issue is player specific (but I've never had this problem before with a burned title). What command does it say 03 01 is? 30 01 is EXIT...

Looks like 03 01 is GOTO line 0 -- it's been a quite while since I've done anything with the DVD virtual machine.

Rich86
10th February 2011, 19:37
What command does it say 03 01 is? 30 01 is EXIT...

Looks like 03 01 is GOTO line 0 -- it's been a quite while since I've done anything with the DVD virtual machine.

Yeah - I looked up the 0301 command and saw the definition as exit. I was tempted to try modifying the output file using pgcedit, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to know where to begin trying changes in it. If there is a change you want me to try - and burn again to test the result - I'd be happy to help in any way I am capable.

Stormcrow
10th February 2011, 21:41
HI,all.

I'd like a bit of general advice here.

I've used an HD camcorder to record my Father's funeral to send to my Sister in NZ. I need to convert to DVD.

It created an AVCHD structure on it's memory card, with 3 .MTS files in the stream folder, and also a playlist and clipinf folder.

Looks like BD-lite. Can BD-RB import this directly ( I want to create alternate DVD output ); or do I need to pre-process by splicing the .mts in something like TsMuxer to create a full BD structure first?

I know pre-processed input it not supported, and this is a bug report thread. I'm not really asking for support, just general advice as to what will work. I'm not going to be complaining if it doesn't work.

EDIT: Is MultiAVCHD closer matched to what I'm trying to do here?

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SC

jdobbs
10th February 2011, 23:10
HI,all.

I'd like a bit of general advice here.

I've used an HD camcorder to record my Father's funeral to send to my Sister in NZ. I need to convert to DVD.

It created an AVCHD structure on it's memory card, with 3 .MTS files in the stream folder, and also a playlist and clipinf folder.

Looks like BD-lite. Can BD-RB import this directly ( I want to create alternate DVD output ); or do I need to pre-process by splicing the .mts in something like TsMuxer to create a full BD structure first?

I know pre-processed input it not supported, and this is a bug report thread. I'm not really asking for support, just general advice as to what will work. I'm not going to be complaining if it doesn't work.

EDIT: Is MultiAVCHD closer matched to what I'm trying to do here?

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SCBD Rebuilder won't read it directly -- you should probably run it through TSMUXER, and BD-RB will handle the output. You could also run it through multiAVCHD -- but I don't think DVD is one of it's output choices, so you'd to still run that through BD Rebuilder.

jdobbs
10th February 2011, 23:14
HI,all.

I'd like a bit of general advice here.

I've used an HD camcorder to record my Father's funeral to send to my Sister in NZ. I need to convert to DVD.

It created an AVCHD structure on it's memory card, with 3 .MTS files in the stream folder, and also a playlist and clipinf folder.

Looks like BD-lite. Can BD-RB import this directly ( I want to create alternate DVD output ); or do I need to pre-process by splicing the .mts in something like TsMuxer to create a full BD structure first?

I know pre-processed input it not supported, and this is a bug report thread. I'm not really asking for support, just general advice as to what will work. I'm not going to be complaining if it doesn't work.

EDIT: Is MultiAVCHD closer matched to what I'm trying to do here?

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Yeah - I looked up the 0301 command and saw the definition as exit. I was tempted to try modifying the output file using pgcedit, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to know where to begin trying changes in it. If there is a change you want me to try - and burn again to test the result - I'd be happy to help in any way I am capable. I just ran a DVD job and the post command that is created is "30 01" or "Exit" (not "03 01" as you indicated) -- and it is the correct command. Here is what EXIT should do:

"This command terminates the playback of a video DVD. Most DVD players displays its manufacturer's logo or a system hardware menu when this command is executed."

If you're player is pausing -- I would think it has to be a player issue.

setarip_old
10th February 2011, 23:45
@Stormcrow

Sorry to hear of your loss.

multiAVCHD most certaintly DOES have the capability to convert your files into a standard DVD...

jdobbs
11th February 2011, 00:32
@Stormcrow

Sorry to hear of your loss.

multiAVCHD most certaintly DOES have the capability to convert your files into a standard DVD... Hmmm... yep, I just looked and you are absolutely right. I stand corrected.

Rich86
11th February 2011, 02:32
I just ran a DVD job and the post command that is created is "30 01" or "Exit" (not "03 01" as you indicated) -- and it is the correct command. Here is what EXIT should do:

"This command terminates the playback of a video DVD. Most DVD players displays its manufacturer's logo or a system hardware menu when this command is executed."

If you're player is pausing -- I would think it has to be a player issue.

Please forgive my poor dyslexic eyeballs . . . you are, of course, correct. The exit command is 30 01.
I did a bit more exploration into this issue and may have stumbled across something relevant. I opened up pgcedit and explored a bit more thoroughly. When I look at the PGC table for a dvd title created by BD-RB, the last entry for the last chapter in the table has 255 in the "cell still time" column. If I change that entry to 0 - like all the rest of the chapter entries, and reburn the title, then the title exits at the end without going into a pause.
I hope that is helpful. Thanks.

jdobbs
11th February 2011, 02:46
Please forgive my poor dyslexic eyeballs . . . you are, of course, correct. The exit command is 30 01.
I did a bit more exploration into this issue and may have stumbled across something relevant. I opened up pgcedit and explored a bit more thoroughly. When I look at the PGC table for a dvd title created by BD-RB, the last entry for the last chapter in the table has 255 in the "cell still time" column. If I change that entry to 0 - like all the rest of the chapter entries, and reburn the title, then the title exits at the end without going into a pause.
I hope that is helpful. Thanks. Thanks, good detective work. I'll follow up on that...

KarstenS
11th February 2011, 15:06
I'm not sure I can even find that without writing something that might interpret commands through a virtual machine -- and that's just not feasible. If you know of another way, let me know.

Ok. I've looked what BDEdit shows as informations of the mpls files. If there is really nothing more than this it shows me, than it will be really difficult to find, as it would be stored somewhere in the java code of the menus i think.

So also forced subtitles will be difficult too for movie only mode :(