BD-Rebuilder, Feature Requests

[jdobbs]

Sweet. I wonder if anyone's tried using BD-RB yet on one of AMD's newish 6-core CPUs, and if it really scales well going from 4 to 6 cores. I wondered that myself.

Anyone?

[laserfan]

BTW, I'm pretty sure you should get "Big I's" at scene changes even without qpfile.Yeah, well, I didn't, or I don't, apparently. At least according to x264's stats file.

I don't know any other way to ID big vs. little i-frames.

I pay attention to this cuz instead of deleting the stats file I grep to type:I (now type:I and type:i) and shrink & save with my logs.

[user822]

Sweet. I wonder if anyone's tried using BD-RB yet on one of AMD's newish 6-core CPUs, and if it really scales well going from 4 to 6 cores.

Well x264 does well on 4 and 8 cores so i think there will be no problem.

The only problem is that the decoder for the original bluraymovie might only use one core and be the speed limit.

Is there Any multithreaded VC1 decoder available?

[Bob Wya]

@jdobbs

Big thanks for that avs filter switch in the newest version. I'll give that a shot as soon as I can! :thanks:

Bob

[Dark Shikari]

Well x264 does well on 4 and 8 cores so i think there will be no problem.

The only problem is that the decoder for the original bluraymovie might only use one core and be the speed limit.

Is there Any multithreaded VC1 decoder available?ffmpeg-mt :)

[colinhunt]

I know I've requested this earlier, but since I've been bumping into the underlying issue several times in the recent past, I'll request it again: please please pleeease (with bambi eyes all a-flutter) add the option of re-encoding PCM audio into some lossy format while leaving other HD audio as-is.

[A.Fenderson]

I know I've requested this earlier, but since I've been bumping into the underlying issue several times in the recent past, I'll request it again: please please pleeease (with bambi eyes all a-flutter) add the option of re-encoding PCM audio into some lossy format while leaving other HD audio as-is.

Though it's not precisely what you're asking for above, there is now a hidden option in the latest beta to automatically strip out LPCM tracks while leaving HD DTS & DD tracks. I've not seen too many BD with LPCM tracks, but if I recall correctly, the ones I have seen always have an AC3/DTS version of the main audio track anyway--though this does seem a bit redundant since (I believe) LPCM decode was mandated for players all along.....? Guess this is the only way to make sure the people with SPDIF from player to receiver (and no analog 5.1 out or HDMI receiver) get surround-sound. I understand why you're asking for this (not wanting to have to manually pick your tracks/options based on the content on the disc), but have you run into any discs with LPCM and no corresponding lossy main audio track? If not (or if they don't exist), using the new hidden option should effectively do what you're asking without having to reencode the existing LPCM.

[colinhunt]

have you run into any discs with LPCM and no corresponding lossy main audio track?
Plenty of releases out there that use LPCM for main 1.0 audio and/or 2.0 commentary. I don't see any reason not to re-encode those to 640kbps DD, for example, and save lots of bits for video.

edit: I noticed the feature was added in the latest version. Whee!

[A.Fenderson]

Well, looks like I didn't read the release notes closely enough--you seem to have gotten what you wanted exactly after all! (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1418982#post1418982) :-)

[colinhunt]

Well, looks like I didn't read the release notes closely enough--you seem to have gotten what you wanted exactly after all! (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1418982#post1418982) :-)
Yup! Happy dance!

[jdobbs]

Yup! Happy dance! I like to think I hear what people ask... :)

[colinhunt]

jdobbs, is it at all possible for BD-RB to take advantage of CUDA via neuron2's NV decoder - and if it is possible, what would it take for you to implement it?

[kshock]

I just did a run with an AMD X6 and everthing worked great. I did a BD-25 of Remember ME, movie only, do not convert DYS to AC3, Do not reencode AC3, Keep HD audio
Went from 20+ hours to 2 hrs. AWSOME program. THANK YOU

[bluesin]

Thank you for this great program... is it possible to add output for video_TS format? i store all my movies on a NAS and use my Control4 Media Player to play them in the bedroom while using my bd player to watch them in the theater during the regular hours of the day and if you could add this feature it would save me a few steps since currenly i shrink them to the 5g size with bd rebuilder then have to use avchd to convert them

[JoeH]

FYI, MultiAVCHD has this functionality - it can go straight from BD-25 or BD-50 to DVD-5/9 with Video_TS format, conserving audio, subtitles, and video.

That having been said, it would be REALLY great to see it added to BD-Rebuilder as well.

[bluesin]

I know it can be done with avchd but no one is willing to help with the audio sync issue for that program. Not only that, I find BD_rebuilder easier to use/configure what i want it to do.

[MilesAhead]

But since the multiplexing takes such a small percentage of the overall time -- it wouldn't even be significant (actually I know it isn't -- as I've tested it).

I agree the time saved isn't much. But it is a lot smoother. And as mentioned, easier on the drives. I have a couple of USB 3.0 docks with WD 6 Gb/sec drives. Muxing flies when you read from one and write to the other. Especially when you are talking 20+GB files, after awhile you really start thrashing the disk heads.

It's not a biggie, but it would be smooth. :)

edit: I was thinking this may be a good candidate for a hidden setting. That way the UI of the program would not be effected. Some kind of setting like ROUND_ROBIN_MUX or something, where the source and dest. folders each have a designated subfolder created to alternate the direction of the muxing. It would just be a logical toggle. If the option is active and the source(when I say source I mean the location of the files to be used in the next step of muxing/processing) drive is the same as the drive of the output folder, then use a subfolder of the input folder as output for that mux stage etc... and just swap back and forth.. so that the mux input and output can be on different physical drives. Kind of like a laser bouncing the light off the mirrors at each end of the tube. :)

[Ch3vr0n]

Something new popped into my head that would be very nice if you could implement. I've got 2 internal 1 GB sata drives and 2 external drives, 1 being USB 2.0 the other being e-sata. Now in order to improve recoding/building speed even further i'd love it if you could implement a 3rd destination path to be able to utilise the drives & write speed to the max.

Eg
Source Path:
C:\AnyDVD Backups (HDD1 Folder) (internal drive)
Working Path:
D:\Temp (HDD2 Temp folder) (internal drive)
Destination Path:
Z:\BDRB Iso's (HDD2 destination path) (external e-sata drive)

[setarip_old]

@Ch3vr0n I've got 2 internal 1 GB sata drives

You might want to first get slightly bigger internal drives ;>}

[Capsbackup]

:rolleyes:I'm quite sure he meant 1 TB. :p

[setarip_old]

@Capsbackup

Yes, I'm sure of that...

[deank]

Something new popped into my head ... if you could implement a 3rd destination path to be able to utilise the drives & write speed to the max.

Eg
Source Path:
C:\AnyDVD Backups (HDD1 Folder) (internal drive)
Working Path:
D:\Temp (HDD2 Temp folder) (internal drive)
Destination Path:
Z:\BDRB Iso's (HDD2 destination path) (external e-sata drive)

It doesn't make much sense, because with WORKING (TEMP) and DESTINATION you get what you need. The source folder/drive is your choice anyway :)

Dean

[ferry]

Hallo!
Since years i use the dvdrebuilder-pro and now the BD-Rebuilder.
I use it for my own bluray discs because oft the restrictions made on the disks.
For me the feature of making mkv files is most importend.
So i can play the movies on my dreambox 8000.
BD-Rebuilder is the only one click tool that make files which run on the box proper. Thanks for that.
For me it would be a good feature to have two audio tracks and subtitle tracks directly in the mkv file.
An option to keep the dts-core ( like the option in the "Blurip" program) in the mkv would also be good.

cu

ferry

[MilesAhead]

It doesn't make much sense, because with WORKING (TEMP) and DESTINATION you get what you need. The source folder/drive is your choice anyway :)

Dean

I should have included some of the original feature request with the quote, but I was referring to an old feature request to allow the user to set it up such that the source and destination for muxing not be on the same physical drive. As Dobbs noted, the impact on overall processing time isn't much. But it is smoother and cuts down on thrashing. Plus it is satisfying when you add drives to be able to see them used optimally. :)

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
I have been making full disc backups to BD5/9 of some episodic discs, where keeping the main menu to navigate to the different episodes is important and convenient. My latest series discs are made up of 2 or 3 episodes, approx. 53 minutes per episode. For 2 episodes I use BD5, and BD9 for 3.
These discs have PiP with DTS express with the episodes, and my testing with both BD-RBV03405 and BD-RBV03406, though complete successfully and I have the audio not heard for the main titles, the PiP does not display on my S360.
Is the PiP suppose to display for full disc backups to BD5/9 media?
This PiP is not very important to me anyway, and if I want to see it I can just play the original.
Since there is a way to make these discs audio work on such backups, and unlikely Sony will correct their potentially faulty firmware, would you consider allowing a hidden option or a selectable option for BD5/9 only full backups to not include the PiP? For these two episodes on one disc, it would amount to 348MB of savings for the two PiP.264 files ( No DTS Express included ). :)

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs;
I have been making full disc backups to BD5/9 of some episodic discs, where keeping the main menu to navigate to the different episodes is important and convenient. My latest series discs are made up of 2 or 3 episodes, approx. 53 minutes per episode. For 2 episodes I use BD5, and BD9 for 3.
These discs have PiP with DTS express with the episodes, and my testing with both BD-RBV03405 and BD-RBV03406, though complete successfully and I have the audio not heard for the main titles, the PiP does not display on my S360.
Is the PiP suppose to display for full disc backups to BD5/9 media?
This PiP is not very important to me anyway, and if I want to see it I can just play the original.
Since there is a way to make these discs audio work on such backups, and unlikely Sony will correct their potentially faulty firmware, would you consider allowing a hidden option or a selectable option for BD5/9 only full backups to not include the PiP? For these two episodes on one disc, it would amount to 348MB of savings for the two PiP.264 files ( No DTS Express included ). :) It still won't work even if you remove the PiP. I'm working on it.

[Ch3vr0n]

It doesn't make much sense, because with WORKING (TEMP) and DESTINATION you get what you need. The source folder/drive is your choice anyway :)

Dean

It does to me. For the sake of it, lets say i ripped a disc to C:\newdisc (I usually rip them to HD first before rebuilding. HDD > BD drive in speed)

If i were to use a working path on the same drive, there would be speed loss & overhead due to the C drive having to both read the source files and write the new ones on the same drive. Would also cause fragmentation issues.

With 2 drives that problem is gone. 1 drive reads, the other writes. No overhead, no speedloss no fragmentation.

Same goes for the end destination. If it has to build an iso back on the 2nd drive, it has to READ from the temp directory and write in an iso on the same drive. Again overhead, speedloss & fragmentation issues.

With a path i can either select the first drive again (that is now idle) to a destination folder, or use a 3rd drive as end path.

My iso's (before i stream them to my HTPC, or burn the backup) are stored in the root of the external drive. I just like the organised look of that process.

Make sense now ?

@ caps & seta: y thx for noticing that typo. They're TB drives y

Actually
2 Samsung spinpoint F1 1TB drives (internal)
1 Iomega 1TB external Drive
1 Maxtor 250GB drive (found an old one lying arround and had a spare enclosure lying arround. Might aswell use the drive eyh :rolleyes:)

[JoeH]

I would also like to see separate source, working, and output folders.

[KarstenS]

Request: Primary and secondary audio language

or

Select at least one audio track.

How to describe why. Uhh. Ok.

I want to rebuild movies in german language as full disk. When I now select in options, that it shall only select german audio tracks, it will do so. The problem is, that not all video files contains german audio (menu, extras...). So there will be no audio track selected and I have to check every videofile by hand and activate at least one (mostly english) audio track.

On the other side, when I set up to select german and english audiotracks, I have to go through all videofiles and deselect the english audiotrack, where a german one is.

Would be nice to have an automatic solution for this.

[Revgen]

jdobbs, is it at all possible for BD-RB to take advantage of CUDA via neuron2's NV decoder - and if it is possible, what would it take for you to implement it?

UNOFFICIAL ANSWER

neuron2's decoder has certain issues with some 3rd party tools.

According to a recent post, ( http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1423942&postcount=2334 ) there's a chance that 3rd party issues may be resolved soon. Cross your fingers.

Hopefully, if all goes well with HCEnc, Staxrip, Megui, etc, perhaps Jdobbs will look into it and allow it as an unsupported hidden option.

[thegame]

Can BD-RB convert 1080p 25fps to 1080p 24 fps? if not this would be cool.
I have a music BD @ 1080p 25 fps and I can't play it:(

[deank]

I think you can do it with my tool (to re-author and re-encode both the menu and the movie/concert).

[setarip_old]

@thegame

Hi!

Perhaps too obvious a question but, why don't you simply return the BluRay disc to the place of purchase in exchange for one with the correct frame rate for your Region?

[gamete]

with bdrebuilder, can i backup bluray 3d movie?

[thegame]

I think you can do it with my tool (to re-author and re-encode both the menu and the movie/concert).

I have never used this software, is there a guide on how to do this re-encode?
Thanks for the tip.

[k-c-ksum]

would it be possible to manually enter a 2 pass average bit rate as imo bdrb alocates to much for the extras. ATM im getting around it by specifying the max disc size as 12/13gig and running the whole disc through with HQ 2 pass. Once this is done i replace the main movie m2ts and clpi file with the original and run it through RB again but put a min m2ts in the ini so only the movie gets encoded and also return the disc size to 23450ish, leaving the already compressed extras alone resulting in some nice looking extras and stellar looking movie :)

[XTREEM|RAGE]

Hi,

One question: Is it possible to make an mkv + .srt subtitles with br_rebuilder? I know you can convert a blu-ray movie+audio to an .mkv container, but can it also make external (.srt) subtitles with it (that show the correct translation of course ;) ).
I'm using using v0.34.07(beta) if it's already in, somebody can point me to the right direction?! If it's not in, then this is a feature request :) (i hope it is possible).

I have always used dvd-rebuilder pro and loved it!

[thegame]

I usually only do movie only BD's, but lately I have been doing full backups, well when I have everything set in my settings to movie only, 1 audio track, no subs, etc. that is fine, but when I click full backup shouldn't BD-RB over-ride my settings and do just that, a full backup with everything? now that is what I think would be nice.

Will there also be an option to keep menu on a movie only BD25 backup?

Thanks

[gamete]

hi guys

[Sharc]

would it be possible to manually enter a 2 pass average bit rate as imo bdrb alocates to much for the extras. .....
If you want reduce the bitrate / quality of the extras you may select 'Mode => "Quicker" Encode for Extras' and insert in rebuilder.ini under the [Options] section
QUICK_CRF=27
(or whatever crf value you want to assign for the Extras).
BD-RB will do the Extras with 1-pass at your specified crf and the main movie will be encoded 2-pass, filling the disc.

[k-c-ksum]

If you want reduce the bitrate / quality of the extras you may select 'Mode => "Quicker" Encode for Extras' and insert in rebuilder.ini under the [Options] section
QUICK_CRF=27
(or whatever crf value you want to assign for the Extras).
BD-RB will do the Extras with 1-pass at your specified crf and the main movie will be encoded 2-pass, filling the disc.

i find a 2pass encode on the extras looks alot better than a crf 1 pass though. i aim for a 25/30% reduction. Would be a nice option to control avg bitrate on 2 pass.

[Sharc]

i find a 2pass encode on the extras looks alot better than a crf 1 pass though.
Quality is matter of the bitrate and encoder settings rather than 1-pass or 2-pass encode. Reduce the crf value for the extras if you want better quality for the extras (at the expense of the main feature)
You may also insert in the rebuilder.ini [Options] section QUICK_USE_QUALITY=1.

[gg72]

One question: if I convert a 1080/24p movie into BD5 or BD9 in 720p, is the output also 24p?

[KarstenS]

Request: Please make 2nd audio track disableable. Actually I can rebuild with no main sound at all. Buit not without 2nd audio.

[Video Dude]

One question: if I convert a 1080/24p movie into BD5 or BD9 in 720p, is the output also 24p?
Yes.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1404803#post1404803

[gg72]

Yes.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1404803#post1404803

OK, thank you! :)

[jdobbs]

One question: if I convert a 1080/24p movie into BD5 or BD9 in 720p, is the output also 24p? Yes. 720p @ 24fps is a legal Blu-ray resolution/rate.

[Edit] Too late with the answer again. :)

[prOnorama]

I'd really like to see a Quick Remux mode for full Blu-ray or just Main Movie when you know it's not exeeding BD-25 filesize.

To determine if a full Blu-ray or main movie will fit on a BD-25 I'd like be able to quickly check this before any processing or demuxing is done, preferably the results shown by a percentage bar which indicates how many % is filled or left. (Also handy for maybe future options in case you want to remux the main movie and remux just a few extras if there's spare room left).

[JoeH]

I'd really like to see a Quick Remux mode for full Blu-ray or just Main Movie when you know it's not exeeding BD-25 filesize.

To determine if a full Blu-ray or main movie will fit on a BD-25 I'd like be able to quickly check this before any processing or demuxing is done, preferably the results shown by a percentage bar which indicates how many % is filled or left. (Also handy for maybe future options in case you want to remux the main movie and remux just a few extras if there's spare room left).

+1
:thanks:

[JJB]

I have a request to add to the alternate movie only output the ability to convert to a regular compliant DVD.
I have one blu-ray player in my home theater room but have 2 regular DVD players in other rooms. When the grand kids and their friends come over I want to let them watch movies elsewhere.

I normally process the movie to a BD5 or 9 and then would like to convert to a SD DVD.

I have tried multiAvchd many, many times and the audio is always out of sync. Could be me but I tried every option and still the same. Maybe because it's pre-processed by BDRebuilder, just guessing.

I have tried trial versions of ConvertXtoDVD and many others that seemed to work quiet well during their crippleware/shareware limitations but I would rather give Jdobbs the $50 + dollars instead of an off shore company.