AVStoDVD Support Thread

[Mike-uk]

Thanks for uploading your sample...

But I cannot reproduce your issue. I tried to replicate your settings as good as I could, but I got a very nice result. BatchMux had no complaints. I used the first 3 subtitle tracks, and something is wrong here. Only the first subs track shows English subs, the other 2 just show question marks. Weird...

I know almost nothing about subs, might well be that BatchMux stumbled upon one of your subtitle tracks. But it sure has nothing to do with the PAL Speedup option. At least not on my machine.

Get my test results here:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/k6ul79

very odd, if i have speedup selected i get the error about not being able to create thumbnail, but if i unselect speed up dvd menu creation works as normal

[manolito]

The key line in your DVD log is this one:
Created File (Menu Page 1): C:\Users\mike7\Videos\DVD_1_MenuPage1.m2v (0 Byte)

AVStoDVD always uses FFMpeg to create the motion menu video even if HCenc is selected as the video encoder. And this encoding step fails on your computer.

First thing I thought was that the reason could be that you had selected a duration of 25 sec for the motion menu while the source only has a duration of 12 sec. But this was wrong, my computer had no problem using 25 sec as the menu duration.

You could try anyways to shorten the menu duration to no more than 12 sec, but if this does not help then I believe that AVS+ is the reason.

//EDIT//
Or did you update your FFmpeg version in AVStoDVD without observing this?
FFmpeg:
The included version 2.2.3 is from 2014 and is slowly getting a little old. For the purpose of AVStoDVD it probably has everything it needs, though...
If you want to upgrade to a later version, there are a few things to keep in mind:

Starting with version 3.1.2 the FFmpeg AVS interface has changed. To work with A2D it is necessary to include the folder "...\AVStoDVD\Lib" in your "PATH" environment variable. It is also recommended to include the folder "...\AviSynth\Plugins" in the "PATH" variable.

Current FFmpeg versions do NOT work under Win XP. There are a couple of fairly recent builds by CoRoNe, rogerdpack and Sherpya which do work under Win XP, though.

The latest and highly recommended version which works under Win XP and does not require to modify the "PATH" variable is this one from July 2016 by rogerdpack:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ffmpegwindowsbi/files/2016-07-18/ffmpeg.static.2016-07-18-g450cf40.32-bit.ffmpeg-static-xp-compatible.zip/download

[Mike-uk]

ahh quite possibly :p ill check that out when i got 5 mins

[Mike-uk]

reverting back to ffmpeg that comes with avs2dvd doesnt fix it

[manolito]

Sorry, out of ideas...

[Mike-uk]

no worries, my work around is enable menu, let it moan about not being able to create thumbnail, encode, it will fail when it gets to encoding and creating the menu, keep assest files , start new project, add the .m2v files, edit menu, re prosses but it wont do any encoding, but it will finish making the menue and then creat the dvd struture

[dr_ml422]

I opened AVStoDVD to start a conversion and something told me to go to the codecs setting. Well everything was under ffdshow, and of course LAV is installed. So, is it Windows or something else that kicks it back to other than LAV filters? Or is it the program itself that picks best settings fir a project? Should I always check and make sure LAV is default? How other than going down one by one and hitting LAV can I do this? Thanks. Also should I just delete FFDShow out of my system? What's using it? Is it old and true MPC-HC 64 bit the one that's using it? Or DVDFab, VidCoder,...? That way I'll always have LAV as default for AvstoDVD. Thanks.

[manolito]

So, is it Windows or something else that kicks it back to other than LAV filters?

Is it old and true MPC-HC 64 bit the one that's using it? Or DVDFab, VidCoder,...? That way I'll always have LAV as default for AvstoDVD. Thanks.

This should not happen. If you are under Win10 it may be that after a feature update the preferred DS filters will be reset, but it will certainly reset the filters to the MS default filters and not to ffdshow.

So I believe that either yourself or some software you are using has changed the preferred filter settings to ffdshow. MPC-HC 64 has been using LAV Filters for quite some time, if your version still uses ffdshow it must be pretty old. Time to upgrade...

If you do not need the newer LAV features (supporting newer video codecs or current hardware assisted decoding features) then ffdshow is really not so bad. AVStoDVD fully supports it, and if you are not getting any problems like audio/video sync problems then you could probably stay with ffdshow. I have no idea which of your other installed software might insist on ffdshow, this is something you need to find out yourself by uninstalling ffdshow and check all your video playback or conversion software.


Cheers
manolito

[dr_ml422]

I keep getting this error. Never got it before. After I close the command window it tells me if I want to proceed with something about FFMPeg etc... and then it turns out ok. Here's the screenshot I attached. Thanks.

[manolito]

Getting attachments approved in the Doom9 forum can take ages... :mad:

Upload your image to a file hoster like https://postimages.org/ instead...

[dr_ml422]

https://i.postimg.cc/grTRHxWD/AVSto-DVD-error.png (https://postimg.cc/grTRHxWD)

Please let me know. Thanks manolito.

[manolito]

This is a thumbnail which is far too small. For me it is completely unreadable...

[videoh]

???

I clicked the link, it is perfectly readable.

[manolito]

This is weird...

I use my good old Opera 12 browser, and this is how it looks here:

https://i.postimg.cc/Cdpw4vPR/Opera12.png (https://postimages.org/)

In Chrome it is readable.

[manolito]

@ dr_ml422

It looks like your AviSynth script for the project cannot be opened. The file is located in your local Windows temp folder.

Do you have enough free space on your Windows system drive?

Have you tried to run AVStoDVD as an administrator?

You could try to move your A2D temp folder to a different drive and / or partition. This is done under "Preferences -> Paths".

And the last thing I can think of is to use a different method for extracting the audio, You are using the default "Wavi + Aften" method. Try to change it to "FFmpeg(AviSynth)".


For debugging it would be helpful if you could open your temp folder right after the crash message appears. Then copy the AVS file to a different folder, open it with NotePad and post the content here,


Good luck
manolito


//EDIT//
Don't forget to try to disable your antivirus software temporarily...
And I almost forgot:
Please post your AVStoDVD log file here.

[dr_ml422]

This never happened before and when I close the command window with the error and proceed with FFMPeg etc... as suggested everything comes out fine. Couldn't find any logs. Probably deleted. I should uncheck that preference to delete them in the main window. I don't know anything about Aften etc... so I just left defaults asis. Is the FFMPeg option better? It says it'll automatically switch to FFMPeg if Temp Wav bigger than 4GB. There's more than enough space as it's my C drive and only my apps and regular associated stuff is there. Maybe it's the type of file being processed, or that I had 2 other encoding jobs happening at the same time? Let me run a solo job and keep the logs. They're in the AVSDVD output folder correct? Thanks.

[dr_ml422]

Here goes. I couldn't edit yet so I had to reply in another message. Is DVDStyler 64 bit just as good as 32bit? I'm needing a backup app for my DVDs. Thanks.


<11/8/2019 10:16:38 PM>
START PROCESS
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<11/8/2019 10:16:38 PM>
PROJECT SETTINGS

DVD Video Standard: NTSC
DVD Titles number: 1
DVD Size: 8100/8100 MB (100%)
DVD Output Setup: DVD Folder
DVD Label: Suicide Squad (2016)
DVD Menu: Static Menu
Output Folder: C:\Users\Noloc42\Videos\AVStoDVD DVD Output
Delete Temp Assets Files: No
Delete Temp Working Files: No
Edit Command Parameters: No
Post Process Task: Show Progress Status window

PREFERENCES

MultiThread: 1
AVS Video Source Filter: A2DSource
AVS Audio Source Filter: A2DSource
AVS UpSize/DownSize Filter: Lanczos4Resize/Spline16Resize
Frame Adjust Strategy: 0
FPS Hard Conversion: 0
PAL SpeedUp: 0
NTSC SlowDown: 0
Video Resolution: 0
Video Encoder: 0
Video BitRate Min: 2500
Video BitRate Max: 8500
Keep DVD Compliant Video: 1
AC3 Audio Encoder: 0
Force FFmpeg for Long Audio: 1
DVD Audio Format: 0
DVD Audio BitRate: 192
Keep DVD Compliant Audio: 1
Normalize Audio: 0
Auto Delay Audio: 1
DVD Audio Language (Primary): EN - English
DVD Audio Language (Secondary): EN - English
DVD Subs Language (Primary): EN - English
DVD Subs Language (Secondary): EN - English
DVD Subs Font: Tahoma 16pt (240,240,240)
Chapters Interval: 5
Use Source Chapters: 1
DVD Burning Drive: G: Slimtype eBAU108 5 L 4L01
DVD Burning Speed: 8x
Auto Erase DVD RW: 1
Unload ActiveMovie Library: 0
Adjust DirectShow Filters at runtime: 1
Save General Settings: 0

SYSTEM INFO

Processor Name: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Six-Core Processor
Operating System: Windows 10 (10.0.18362) 64 bit
User has Admin Rights: YES
Running with Elevated Privileges: NO (3)
Available Output Disc Space: 228 GB
AviSynth is installed: YES (release 2.6.0)
LAV Filters is installed: YES (release 0.74.1)
ffdshow is installed: NO

CODECS REPORT

H.264/AVC: LAV Video Decoder
Xvid: LAV Video Decoder
DivX 4/5/6: LAV Video Decoder
Other MPG4: LAV Video Decoder
DV: LAV Video Decoder
MPEG1: LAV Video Decoder
MPEG2: LAV Video Decoder
AAC: LAV Audio Decoder
MP3: LAV Audio Decoder
MP2: LAV Audio Decoder
AC3: LAV Audio Decoder
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<11/8/2019 10:16:38 PM>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: J:\Ready To ConvertXToDVD 7\DCEU Justice League\Suicide Squad (2016) [YTS.AG]\Suicide.Squad.2016.720p.BluRay.x264-[YTS.AG].mp4
Info: AVC - 900 kbps - 1280x534 - DAR 2.399 - 23.976 fps - Progressive - 2:14:33 hours - 193555 frames
Audio 1: J:\Ready To ConvertXToDVD 7\DCEU Justice League\Suicide Squad (2016) [YTS.AG]\Suicide.Squad.2016.720p.BluRay.x264-[YTS.AG].mp4
Info: AAC LC - 132 kbps - CBR - 2 ch - 48000 Hz - 2:14:33 hours (0 ms delay) - Default
Subs 1: J:\Ready To ConvertXToDVD 7\DCEU Justice League\Suicide Squad (2016) [YTS.AG]\Suicide.Squad.2016.EXTENDED.720p.BluRay.x264-SPARKS-RARBG-ShAaNiG-[YTS.AG].srt
Info: SubRip (SRT) - Suicide.Squad.2016.EXTENDED.720p.BluRay.x264-SPARKS-RARBG-ShAaNiG-[YTS.AG].srt
[MediaInfoLib - v18.03.1]
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<11/8/2019 10:16:38 PM>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Import("C:\Program Files (x86)\AVStoDVD\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")

Video = A2DVideoSource("J:\Ready To ConvertXToDVD 7\DCEU Justice League\Suicide Squad (2016) [YTS.AG]\Suicide.Squad.2016.720p.BluRay.x264-[YTS.AG].mp4", CacheFolder="C:\Users\Noloc42\AppData\Local\Temp", FrameRate=23.976)
Audio = A2DAudioSource("J:\Ready To ConvertXToDVD 7\DCEU Justice League\Suicide Squad (2016) [YTS.AG]\Suicide.Squad.2016.720p.BluRay.x264-[YTS.AG].mp4", CacheFolder="C:\Users\Noloc42\AppData\Local\Temp")

Video = Video.ConvertToYV12()
Video = Video.AddBorders(0,92,0,94)
Video = Video.Spline16Resize(720,480)
#PullDown: using DGPulldown/HCenc to upsize FPS

AudioDub(Video, Audio)
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<11/8/2019 10:16:38 PM>
DIRECTSHOW AUDIO MIXER OPERATIONS:
No LAV Filters mixer ON/OFF adjustment required at runtime
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<11/8/2019 10:16:38 PM>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Video Encoding Profile: FFmpeg CBR 1-pass
Target Video FileSize: 7696.1 MB
Encoding Parameters: -i "C:\Users\Noloc42\AppData\Local\Temp\Suicide Squad (2016)_Suicide Squad (2016)_1.avs" -threads 12 -aspect 16:9 -c:v mpeg2video -b:v 7997k -minrate 7997k -maxrate 7997k -bufsize 2000k -dc 10 -y "C:\Users\Noloc42\Videos\AVStoDVD DVD Assets\Suicide Squad (2016)_Suicide Squad (2016).m2v"
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<11/8/2019 10:23:09 PM>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Video Source Filter: A2DSource - DSS2 mod (LAV Filters on)
Created File: C:\Users\Noloc42\Videos\AVStoDVD DVD Assets\Suicide Squad (2016)_Suicide Squad (2016).m2v (7696 MB)
Ouput Video Info: MPEG-2 Video - 7997 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 16:9 - 23.976 fps - Progressive - 2:14:33 hours - 193557 frames
Avg Video Encoding Speed: 495 fps
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<11/8/2019 10:23:09 PM>
START PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown Parameters: "C:\Users\Noloc42\Videos\AVStoDVD DVD Assets\Suicide Squad (2016)_Suicide Squad (2016).m2v" -srcfps 23.976 -destfps 29.97 -inplace -tff
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<11/8/2019 10:24:35 PM>
END PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown executed on File: C:\Users\Noloc42\Videos\AVStoDVD DVD Assets\Suicide Squad (2016)_Suicide Squad (2016).m2v (7696 MB)
Output Video Info: MPEG-2 Video - 7997 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 16:9 - 23.976 fps - Progressive (2:3 Pulldown) - 2:14:33 hours - 193557 frames
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<11/8/2019 10:24:35 PM>
START AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS (Track 1)
Wavi+Aften Parameters: "C:\Users\Noloc42\AppData\Local\Temp\Suicide Squad (2016)_Suicide Squad (2016)_1.avs" - | "C:\Program Files (x86)\AVStoDVD\Aften\aften.exe" -b 192 -pad 0 -dynrng 5 -bwfilter 0 - "C:\Users\Noloc42\Videos\AVStoDVD DVD Assets\Suicide Squad (2016)_Suicide Squad (2016)_1.ac3"
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<11/8/2019 10:27:22 PM>
WARNING! Errors found during Title 1 Audio Track 1 encoding.
Audio filesize is too small (0 MB)
Backup Audio encoding routine (FFmpeg Safe Mode) is starting ...
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<11/8/2019 10:27:22 PM>
START FFMPEG (SAFE MODE) AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS (Track 1) - Trial 1/2
FFmpeg Parameters: -threads 12 -i "J:\Ready To ConvertXToDVD 7\DCEU Justice League\Suicide Squad (2016) [YTS.AG]\Suicide.Squad.2016.720p.BluRay.x264-[YTS.AG].mp4" -vn -c:a ac3 -ar 48000 -ab 192k -y "C:\Users\Noloc42\Videos\AVStoDVD DVD Assets\Suicide Squad (2016)_Suicide Squad (2016)_1.ac3"
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<11/8/2019 10:28:15 PM>
END AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS (Track 1)
Created File: C:\Users\Noloc42\Videos\AVStoDVD DVD Assets\Suicide Squad (2016)_Suicide Squad (2016)_1.ac3 (184.8 MB)
Output Audio Info: AC3 - 192 kbps - CBR - 2 ch - 48000 Hz - 16 bit - 2:14:33 hours (0 ms delay)
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<11/8/2019 10:28:49 PM>
Process aborted during Title 1 SUBS (Track 1) encoding operations.
For Subtitles issues troubleshooting see Help/FAQ/Subtitles section.
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<11/8/2019 10:28:49 PM>
Warning! AVStoDVD Project ended with errors.
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<11/8/2019 10:28:49 PM>
Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.8.8
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:)

[manolito]

Thanks for posting your log...

I cannot see any problems in your AVS2DVD setup, so I can only make an educated guess. The path+filename string in your Wavi commandline is technically correct, but it is awfully long. In theory the command processor can handle a much longer parameter string, but I do not know if Wavi and/or Aften can handle such a long parameter string.

I suppose that Wavi and Aften parse the commandline and put it into a string variable. And this string variable might be limited in length. My recommendation is to put your source file into a folder with a short name plus rename the file itself to a short name. If this works then my suspicion is correct.

And the other option would be to use "FFmpeg (AviSynth)" instead of "Wavi + Aften" as your audio conversion method. According to your log file FFmpeg has no problems with long parameter strings, and at least for current FFmpeg versions the AC3 encoding quality in FFmpeg is even better than in Aften.


Cheers
manolito

[dr_ml422]

Thanks. I kinda thought the title name had something to do with it as sometimes it would even tell me it couldn't recognize the file. Then I would load it directly in with the Add+ button and it would take. It's been making some really nice outputs and so I need it in my arsenal. Not too many out there except DVDStyler, ConvertXToDVD, and w/e DVDFab has.

[dr_ml422]

It worked! I also started it with Admin Rights. I used FFmpeg-AviSynth for the audio. Thanks.

[manolito]

Great!
Glad I could help...

[dr_ml422]

Now I found a new bug if at all. I can't edit the titles when more than one title is present in a project. It will come up with all the title's names plus the edited name in the Menu after hitting the Menu Wizard. Is there anything I'm missing here?

Ok so now everything went back to normal after restting the menu. One thing is that if you hit save preferences and have the name of your previous DVD in the Label instead of DVD, it will bring that back again unless you change it again. So it's better to just leave it as DVD because one could easily miss that and then have to do it over.

[dr_ml422]

I have a question. What can I do in preferences etc... so that on startup or just after, I don't get that "I couldn't find so and so drive" popup? I had a burner I took out and it was still searching for it apperently. Do I have to go into settings somewhere and change something? Thanks.

[manolito]

Three possible solutions I can think of...

Under AVStoDVD preferences -> Authoring/Burning you can try to remove the offending burner from the dropdown list and save the preferences as default.

Or open RegEdit and go to HKCU/Software/AVStoDVD. There is a value "DVDBurningDrive" in the right pane, you can doubleclick it and delete the burner string.

If all this does not work then there is a nifty little tool by Uwe Sieber called DriveCleanup.
https://www.uwe-sieber.de/files/drivecleanup.zip
This tool will remove all non present drives from the device tree of device manager.

Good luck
manolito

[dr_ml422]

Thanks Manolito, everything is working fine now, especially after switching to FFmpeg for the Audio encoding. The DVDs are really nice, and I noticed that AVStoDVD preserves menu functionality when using the PC to watch it. I couldn't get that with ConvertXToDVD. I'm experimenting with the subtitle output as the regular Tahoma kinda gives a shadow effect. I switched to Bold and will see soon if it looks clearer.

[Mike-uk]

Damn, another report that the A2D preview is not working under Win10... :mad:

You are not the first user with this problem. A2D uses the ancient Quartz.dll for the preview, but I never found something that MS has stopped supporting this method under Win10. I am on Win7-64, and I have no problem with the A2D preview. If there is no way to make the preview work, you know that you can specify a different software player for the preview under preferences? Just no editing...

Here is something you could try:
The batch file in the linked archive restores a couple of AviSynth Registry entries which get altered by installing LAV filters. It may or may not help, but it sure does not do any damage.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/l9zgsz

The other file in the archive is VCF2AVS which you need if you want to use the VDub method to edit your source files.


There's only one single A2D developer, and this is MrC. Unfortunately he does only have very limited time lately to work on AVStoDVD, I try to help out with user support as much as I can, but of course my contributions are limited - I am just an informed user, not a developer.


Cheers
manolito
Hi
any update on getting this working ??
the file you linked is no longer available
Thanks
Mike

also ive noticed the resulting dvd, pretty much all edges are a bit jaggedy ??

[manolito]

Hi
any update on getting this working ??
the file you linked is no longer available

also ive noticed the resulting dvd, straight edges are a bit jaggedy ??

Unfortunately no update to this issue...

I reuploaded my archive, will be available for 30 days:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/vqeuv2

For the jagged edges this could have several reasons. Aliasing caused by downscaling maybe. Could you upload a short sample? There are some blurring filters which can improve aliasing, but I am not really too familiar with this.


Cheers
manolito

[Mike-uk]

https://ibb.co/84MSMjh

youll prob need to zoom in to see, but edges have slanted lines

[manolito]

Yes, I really had to zoom in to 500% to notice...

Try some of the Anti-Aliasing filters from here:
http://avisynth.nl/index.php/External_filters#Anti-aliasing

[Mike-uk]

Yes, I really had to zoom in to 500% to notice...

Try some of the Anti-Aliasing filters from here:
http://avisynth.nl/index.php/External_filters#Anti-aliasing

ok will take a look, its deffo more noticeable on the tv.

im comparing a bluray to dvd, and just the dvd, and the hd-sd converstion you notice the edges

thanks
Mike

[manolito]

ok will take a look, its deffo more noticeable on the tv.

Not on my TV I guess... :D
I still watch my movies on my oldfashioned CRT TV which doesn't know how to spell "High Definition", but which has very natural colors no LCD TV I have seen so far could match.

[Mike-uk]

have you tried OLED tv ??

[manolito]

No I haven't. But I am a big believer in sustainability, and I do not believe in replacing stuff which still works perfectly by the latest and greatest new toys.

[dr_ml422]

I'm getting way better results lately after taking manolito's suggestion and using FFmpeg to encode my audio. There's definitely something better going on when you use FFmpeg instead of the Aften encoder. My DVDs aren't darker anymore where they were using the Aften encoder. I know it's kind of weird being it's an audio setting, though the results definitely tell another story. I also set my output to DVD-9 to get the best possible picture without further compression. Also AVStoDVD always has DVD Menu functionality on the PC which ConvertXToDVD as of now doesn't. I'm staying with AVStoDVD right now. So if you haven't already tried using the FFmpeg for Audio together with the recommended Video settings go ahead and give it a try.

[manolito]

I'm getting way better results lately after taking manolito's suggestion and using FFmpeg to encode my audio. There's definitely something better going on when you use FFmpeg instead of the Aften encoder. My DVDs aren't darker anymore where they were using the Aften encoder. I know it's kind of weird being it's an audio setting, though the results definitely tell another story.

This really puzzles me... :scared:
Using FFmpeg instead of Aften for audio encoding should not affect the video conversion at all. There must be something else going on.

The only way to find out would be to make 2 different conversions of a short clip, using your previous settings with Aften first and then using your new settings with using FFmpeg for the audio conversion. Save both log files and post them here.

[Mike-uk]

edit title and add trim to avisynth script and do like 3000 frames to make short clips

[dr_ml422]

This really puzzles me... :scared:
Using FFmpeg instead of Aften for audio encoding should not affect the video conversion at all. There must be something else going on.

The only way to find out would be to make 2 different conversions of a short clip, using your previous settings with Aften first and then using your new settings with using FFmpeg for the audio conversion. Save both log files and post them here.

After going to DVDVOB2Mpg's site and reading his explanation of how the DVD structure, mainly VTS Folders and their Vob files contain all sorts of data, and how this can easily get corrupt, I believe it. Especially after clearly seeing the results I'm getting with FFmpeg and DVD-9. The exact file when converted to .iso which should preserve everything, won't have Menu functionality and even not play sometimes. Sometimes fast forwarding it will bring up the main video, sometimes not. Now that same .iso when I convert back to a DVD VTS Folder using either DVD-RB Pro or Shrink, will not only play, it will have menu functionality and the timing also would come back, as with the .iso it was off as well. Kept posting a 37... minute for Full Video.

Better yet you run a video or short clip using Aften as Audio and then FFmpeg with the same Video settings which would be DVD-9 output, DVD Title same as Disc Label, and run the menu preview, then the Avisynth Frame Serving Check.

You'll see how crisp that resulting DVD will be with the FFmpeg Audio settings. I'm now having to go through my whole .iso collection and running them through DVD-RB Pro or Shrink to have a workable VTS folder. Also reason for the VTS folder is when burning and wanting to add it's high-def counterpart, it will burn as data only with the .iso. With the VTS folder I will get both my DVD and it's mp4 or mkv counterpart on the same disc size permitting, and when I play that DVD I will get playback from the VTS folder. Not with the exact .iso on that same disc as it'll not be burned as DVD video but data. Now on the PC that .iso will play from the disc, but only AVStoDVD will make the .iso alone functionable with menu. Using a disc with the PC is ok but kinda defeats the purpose of converting etc...

[Mike-uk]

hmm odd I tried to do some comparisons myself, but I cant get avs2dvd to work with wavi+aften or ffmpeg+aften as it either says unsupported number of channels, or if I choose an ac3 stream it just freezes HCEnc ? so I can only use ffmpeg

[manolito]

Really odd...

Can you post your log file?


//EDIT//
Just guessing, but could it be that you updated MediaInfo.DLL in the A2D\Lib folder with a newer version? If so then please go back to an older version. The last working version is v. 18.05.

The reason for my guess is that you are getting an "Unsupported number of channels" message. A2D gets all the source info from MediaInfo, and versions after 18.05 use a different output format so software like AVStoDVD will get wrong source properties.

[Mike-uk]

Really odd...

Can you post your log file?


//EDIT//
Just guessing, but could it be that you updated MediaInfo.DLL in the A2D\Lib folder with a newer version? If so then please go back to an older version. The last working version is v. 18.05.

The reason for my guess is that you are getting an "Unsupported number of channels" message. A2D gets all the source info from MediaInfo, and versions after 18.05 use a different output format so software like AVStoDVD will get wrong source properties.

nope going back to 18.05 hasn't sorted it

Found PCM audio: 8 channels, 48000 Hz, 32 bits, 80.040000 seconds.
Audio track contains floating-point samples.
Writing WAV file...
input format: Microsoft WAVE Floating-point 32-bit little-endian 48000 Hz multi-channel
Unsupported # of channels passed to aften_wav_chmask_to_acmod
mismatch in channels, acmod, and lfe params
Error: Could not write to the standard output.

not a problem for me as I use ffmpeg anyway

it seems any file with 8 channels/6 channels is not liked, just tried a file with 2 channels and its fine

[Mike-uk]

https://ibb.co/wLPH6Ck

just done a comparision with all 3 audio encoders and I don't see a difference ??

surely audio cant effect image as video encoding is done first ??

[manolito]

just done a comparision with all 3 audio encoders and I don't see a difference ??

surely audio cant effect image as video encoding is done first ??

Yes, the selected audio conversion method cannot have any effect on the video quality, the A2D workflow does not allow this. Unless something else is going on, but as long as dr_ml422 does not post his log files there is no way to analyze the problem.

[manolito]

Found PCM audio: 8 channels, 48000 Hz, 32 bits, 80.040000 seconds.

it seems any file with 8 channels/6 channels is not liked, just tried a file with 2 channels and its fine

Since the DVD specs do not allow for more than 6 audio channels, A2D always automatically downmixes 8-ch source audio to 6-ch. Which obviously does not work for your source audio.

I spent some time testing clips with different 8-ch audio formats this afternoon, and the result was that A2D is not well suited for 8-ch audio sources.

I used clips from here for my tests:
https://www.demo-world.eu/2d-demo-trailers-hd/

One problem is that there are many different 7.1 audio formats, and depending on the format MediaInfo spits out very different results. Which oftentimes leads to A2D making wrong downmix decisions.

One example is 8-ch EAC3 audio. This format is always detected as 6-ch, I have no idea how the other 2 channels are embedded in the format, but since LAV audio sees it as 6-ch there is no other way than treating it as 6-ch for the conversion.

For other formats MediaInfo reports 8-ch/6-ch audio, and A2D will probably pick the wrong format. Other 8-ch formats like DTS or Dolby Atmos may even cause A2D to detect 0 audio channels. So currently if you have 8-ch source audio you will need to apply some manual workarounds to convert such audio correctly.

The only way to reliably detect the number of audio channels is to check how many channels your audio source filter recognizes. For LAV audio there is a "Status" tab in the configuration window. Play the file in a DirectShow based player and open the LAV audio configuration to get the real number of channels.

Then in A2D right-click on the source title and click "Edit Source Title Info". Under "Audio Channels" enter the correct number of channels.

If you have 8 audio channels then make sure that your AVS script has the command "Audio = Audio.Dmix86()" in it. This will execute a function from "Downmix.avsi" which is located in your "AVStoDVD\Lib" folder.


So my conclusion is that right now there is no automatic way to treat 8-ch audio sources correctly. It would be a major undertaking to detect all possible 8-ch formats reliably, and I have my doubts if MrC has the time to do this in the near future. He has not posted here for almost 6 months, I sure hope that he is doing well...


BTW you may be interested in using an improved version of the "Downmix.avsi" script. Have a look here:
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1882617#post1882617


Cheers
manolito

[Mike-uk]

cheers manolito for the info, yes most of my sources get detected as 0 channel and encode in 2 channel, but manualy setting the channels now allows me to encode in 5.1 :)

[manolito]

Another year is almost over...

Time to wish everyone on this forum, and especially those who still do DVD conversions, a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year... :D

Very special greetings to MrC, the author of this wonderful software. He has not posted here for some time, so I hope that he is doing well. All my best wishes for him and his family...


Cheers
manolito

[Mike-uk]

Another year is almost over...

Time to wish everyone on this forum, and especially those who still do DVD conversions, a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year... :D

Very special greetings to MrC, the author of this wonderful software. He has not posted here for some time, so I hope that he is doing well. All my best wishes for him and his family...


Cheers
manolito

Yes Merry Christmas all

yes thanks to MrC for this wonderfull program

Hopefully MrC has been locked away in his room 24/7 making avs2whatever-you-want for us :D

but I know this prob isn't true im sure he has life to deal with first

and thanks to manolito for your outstanding tech support :)

[dr_ml422]

Happy New Year to all! Ok I'll run two tests with each and compare the two. Do I have to uncheck delete AVSToDVD Log Files in the main window, or are these different files? I always see some files after conversion. Remember I was having issues with FFMpeg and Aften so lets see if it takes with these tests. You have to do a whole movie. A short clip will not be enough to see any solid differences. It could just be the update since I was comparing to some older conversions before Mr, C came back with an update.

[manolito]

Do I have to uncheck delete AVSToDVD Log Files in the main window, or are these different files? I always see some files after conversion.

No, there is no need to uncheck this option. The AVStoDVD log file will always stay in the output folder after every conversion, and this is the file we need to analyze.

[dr_ml422]

Just like I said. Here goes two logs. Angel Has Fallen is with Aften/FFMpeg, and Olympus Has Fallen is with FFMpeg/AviSynth.

https://filebin.net/5mqvdamyolbg0fc0/Angel_Has_Fallen_2019.log?t=ue5gq302

https://filebin.net/5mqvdamyolbg0fc0/Olympus_Has_Fallen_2013.log?t=ue5gq302

If I were to somehow share the video you'll see that Angel Has Fallen has darker more greenish color. It could possibly be a leak from the Menu as I used the Greenish Menu with the DVD Disc in the Background.

[Mike-uk]

? that's 2 different movies, you ned to compare with the same movie and same time frame