AVStoDVD Support Thread [Archive]

MrC

6th June 2007, 13:20

Hi all!

Finally I have decided to share my little and very simple "creature". After some months of (very modest) programming and debugging, now I am ready to give AVStoDVD to Doom9 community. My hope is to help AVStoDVD to grow and, why not, help somebody with a very simple and easy-to-use tool.

What is AVStoDVD?

AVStoDVD is a flexible tool to convert various media formats to DVD compliant streams and burn them into a highly compatible single track (from release 1.0.0 to 1.2.3) or multi tracks (since release 2.0.0) DVD with menu creation capability (since release 2.1.0) and multi audio track support (since release 2.3.0).

Features:
- Video and Audio editing using AviSynth
- Video encoding using QuEnc/HCEnc/ReJig/FFmpeg
- Audio encoding using QuEnc/FFmpeg/Wavi/Aften
- Video/Audio muxing using ImagoMPEG-Muxer
- Subtitles encoding using SubtitlesCreator
- DVD Authoring using MuxMan/BatchMux
- ISO Image Building and DVD Burning using ImgBurn
- Internal DVD Menu Editor with customizable menus

Why AVStoDVD?

Because I find very difficult to remember all the scripts and cmd line switches needed by AviSynth, QuEnc, HCenc, MuxMan, etc.
AVStoDVD is basically a friendly GUI with very few buttons to click to quickly produce a DVD from a single A/V file.

Why another one-click solution?

Why not?

Where is AVStoDVD?

You can find the Win32 exe installer and the source code (VB6) on SourceForge.net: AVStoDVD @ SourceForge (http://sourceforge.net/projects/avstodvd/)

What are the hardware requirements?

- 1 GHz CPU or more
- 10GB Hard Disk or more
- DVD Burner

What are the software requirements?

- Microsoft Windows 2000/XP/Vista (runs with Windows 95/98/Me but 100% functionality is not guaranteed)
- Microsoft DirectX 9.0 or higher
- AviSynth 2.5.7 or higher - included in the installer
- DirectShow codecs/filters needed to play media files to convert (I suggest FFDShow (http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow-tryout))
Since AVStoDVD is programmed in VB6, it does not need .NET Framework to run, and all needed DLLs and OCXs are provided with the installer package.

Please, write your impressions, suggestions and bug reports here on Doom9 forum. I really need them! Since I am not a professional software writer, please do not hit me too hard and be patient if I do not reply in real-time.

:)

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ChickenMan

7th June 2007, 09:25

MrC

7th June 2007, 11:33

I tried out your new program, it installs and runs well on my Xp system. A couple of comments though, the avi I tried it on (DivX, 25fps 104min long) was going to take 3hr 40min to do the encoding phase, set to High Quality 1pass CBR. The same file only 21 min to do the encoding part using DVD2SVCD with CCE 2.70. Any chance of supporting CCE as an option ?

Good suggestion, I have never thought about CCE/HC support but can be an improvement. However more than 3hrs for a 104min DivX is really too much. With my old P4 Northwood 2.4GHz QuEnc usually encodes at 20/25 fps. Can you post or mail me the log file, if you saved it?

The final encode also had the DIVX Symbol in bottom right of the picture for the few seconds, I dont get that with any other avi to dvd converter I've tried. I know I can turn it off in the DivX Configuration, but I prefer it to be there for playback of the avi.

That's because AVStoDVD uses DirectShowSource() as default file input, instead of using AviSource() in the AVS script. Reason is higher compatibility.

The audio was originally MP3 22khz and converted fine but volume level was very low. DVD2SVCD choked on this audio track completely and had to convert manually.

If you use a audio DirectShow codec like ffdshow, you can modify the volume by the decoder configuration utility.
Alternatively you can edit the AVS script and insert the AmplifydB() function to the audio stream.

Thanks a lot for testing AVStoDVD beta! Your job is very very appreciated!

:cool:

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ChickenMan

7th June 2007, 16:56

I stopped the encoding real early as at 3hr+ to encode, I didnt have the time. It was running around 15fps and I have a E6600 Core2 Duo.

Here is the Log file, I just edited out my file name:

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START LOG OPERATIONS: 7/06/2007 5:51:11 PM

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AVStoDVD PROJECT SETTINGS:

Source Video file: H:\xxxxxxx.AVI
Source Audio file: H:\xxxxxxx.AVI
DVD Video Format: PAL
DVD Video Aspect Ratio: 16:9
MPEG2 Encoding Options: High Quality (HQ, 1 pass, CBR)
DVD Video BitRate: 5593 (5593) kbps
DVD Audio Format: AC3
DVD Audio BitRate: 192 kbps
DVD Audio Language: EN - English
DVD Chapters Interval: 5 min
Delete temp process files: No
Save Log file: Yes
Shutdown system when process complete: No
Output Folder: G:\TEMP09
DVD Output Setup: DVD Folder

----------------------------------------

SOURCE FILES

Video: H:\xxxxxx.AVI
Info: AVI (DivX 5) - 958 kbps - 720x392 - 16:9 - 25 fps - 1:44:43 hours - 157078 frames

Audio: H:\xxxxxx.AVI
Info: AVI (MPEG-2 Audio layer 3) - 96 kbps - CBR - 22050Hz - 2ch - 1:44:43 hours

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AVISYNTH SCRIPT

Video = DirectShowSource("H:\xxxxxx.AVI")
Audio = DirectShowSource("H:\xxxxxx.AVI")
AudioDub(Video, Audio)
ConvertToYV12
LanczosResize(720,392,0,0.5)
AddBorders(0,7,0,7)
LanczosResize(720,576,0,0.5)
SSRC(48000)

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END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS: 7/06/2007 5:57:03 PM

Created File: G:\TEMP09\xxxxxx_AVStoDVD.m2v (113375363 Byte)

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END AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS: 7/06/2007 6:03:56 PM

Created File: G:\TEMP09\xxxxxx_AVStoDVD.ac3 (150806784 Byte)

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END VIDEO/AUDIO MUXING OPERATIONS: 7/06/2007 6:04:12 PM

Created File: G:\TEMP09\xxxxxx_AVStoDVD.mpg (268869632 Byte)

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END DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS: 7/06/2007 6:04:17 PM

Created Folder: G:\TEMP09\xxxxxx_AVStoDVD

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END LOG OPERATIONS: 7/06/2007 6:04:17 PM

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MrC

7th June 2007, 18:07

Maybe your PC was running some other application meanwhile? I have set QuEnc priority level to "idle".

:)

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ChickenMan

8th June 2007, 04:24

Absolutely no other apps running at the time. I just checked with another avi, an NTSC 23.976 also about 100min long and with AC3 audio (so no audio conversion was happening), it also was to take 3hr+ to encode and getting around 13-14fps. I checked my CPU usage at the time and QuEnc was running at 50% (one CPU at 90% and second at 10%) as expected since its not Dual core aware.

The above avi was NTSC 23.976 but because hidden in the settings, it was set to PAL, it was encoded to PAL which is not what I wanted. Wouldnt it be simpler to encode to the format of the original avi but allowing it to be changed if required ?

MrC

8th June 2007, 08:01

QuEnc's speed problem is very strange: a friend of mine with same CPU as yours, reports to encode at 32/35 fps with same CPU usage.... Try using ffdshow with default options instead of DivX/XviD as DirectShow codec, if you will.

The option to automatically switch (or ask the user) to source video format (PAL/NTSC) is another good "ToDo" point. :cool:

What do you think about the GUI? Is it user-friendly enough? Any suggestions how to improve it?

Tnx again

:)

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ChickenMan

8th June 2007, 13:33

I prefer not to install ffdshow as always in the past it has always screwed up my system. Using CCE I currently get 100 to 125 fps with D2S so reluctant to screw that up in any way, but may try later on a standalone install of XP.

GUI looks good for me, but personally I don't take much heed in looks, its functionality I'm more concerned with.

One more little request, can we have a bit-rate of 224 included for AC3. For 2 channel AC3, the most commonly used bitrate you will find on commercial dvd's is 192 & 224.

MrC

8th June 2007, 14:51

One more little request, can we have a bit-rate of 224 included for AC3. For 2 channel AC3, the most commonly used bitrate you will find on commercial dvd's is 192 & 224.

Ops, just missed it! :rolleyes:

:)

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ricardo.santos

8th June 2007, 23:18

any chance of subtitle support in the future?

MrC

9th June 2007, 13:19

any chance of subtitle support in the future?

As a matter of fact I have not yet explore this "world", but I will. Before including it, I want to be sure that the user-friendly GUI will not be heavily impacted.

Did you tried it? Did it work? How are your impressions?

:)

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Dkruskie

10th June 2007, 07:12

I tried a small avi i had.came out ok. I like the gui nice. I think the option to choose encoders would be great, cce or hc, and maybe be able to add multiple files instead of just one.

MrC

10th June 2007, 11:14

I tried a small avi i had.came out ok. I like the gui nice.

Thanks! :cool: Any suggestions how to improve it?

I think the option to choose encoders would be great, cce or hc

Surely I will add hc support. I'm still wondering if to add CCE because it is not free.

and maybe be able to add multiple files instead of just one.

Good suggestion. Lots of work to handle multiple files, but, ok, it is a good point. Tnx.

:)

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Dkruskie

10th June 2007, 11:54

I like the gui the way it is..nice and simple and not confusing.
I'm looking forward to hc support. Maybe for adding the multiple files having a window something like favc has.

ChickenMan

10th June 2007, 15:47

I'm still wondering if to add CCE because it is not free.

CCE Basic is US$59, thats excellent value in my books and should not be beyond anyones budget.

MrC

10th June 2007, 16:01

I'm looking forward to hc support. Maybe for adding the multiple files having a window something like favc has.

I have never opened FAVC... I was thinking to leave the single-title aspect of AVStoDVD like it is and add a separate window for batch encoding a jobs list. What do you think?

:confused::)

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Pyr0

10th June 2007, 17:43

another vote for CCE support from me too if possible :) (preferably with the RoBa method for encoding)
i'm currently looking to see if i can find something to replace DVD2SVCD, since it refuses to work with 4GB of mem installed :(

bionic

10th June 2007, 18:11

+1 for roba, cce and subs, and a separate window for batch sounds good too me.

Havent tried it yet, but it looks very promising :)

Dkruskie

10th June 2007, 21:00

a separate window for batch sounds good too me too:)

chaparral

12th June 2007, 19:48

Hi MrC, congratulations for your new project and hopes that you get all the success with him...

Now, this could sound like i'm a total newbie but the fact is i've tryied to run it on my Windows Vista Ultimate and the instalation went well, the problem is that i just don't know how to add the input files(avi,divx or xvid files) because i only see the path to add audio files...
The interface application program is very easy and i have a bit of experience in programs like this but the fact is that with this one it seems so far a bit complicated ,ehehehehehehe....
So if you could give some help on this i apreciate in order to give you my impressions about your "monster", lol...

Regards

MrC

13th June 2007, 07:54

Support to other MPEG2 encoders and batch encoding are coming with beta 4. Subtitle support is a bit delayed.

@chaparral

Thanks for testing AVStoDVD on Vista. Very appreciated because I cannot do it.
The problem you are reporting (cannot load the video stream) is very strange. To load a video or video/audio stream you have only to hit the button circled in red in the below picture.

AVStoDVD Main Window (http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8062/mainwindowxv0.png)

You can also hit F1 to open AVStoDVD Help and have more explanations.

:)

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chaparral

13th June 2007, 19:39

Support to other MPEG2 encoders and batch encoding are coming with beta 4. Subtitle support is a bit delayed.

@chaparral

Thanks for testing AVStoDVD on Vista. Very appreciated because I cannot do it.
The problem you are reporting (cannot load the video stream) is very strange. To load a video or video/audio stream you have only to hit the button circled in red in the below picture.

AVStoDVD Main Window (http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8062/mainwindowxv0.png)

You can also hit F1 to open AVStoDVD Help and have more explanations.

:)

Bye

Hi, MrC, in fact your screenshot shows the video stream path but in my av2dvd that doesn't appear as you can see for my screenshot bellow..

http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avstodvderroxu0.jpg

So, i dont understand why this happens...

MrC

14th June 2007, 08:17

MrC

14th June 2007, 15:10

I am doing some investigation how to add CCE support to AVStoDVD. Please correct me if I make any mistakes:

- there is no way to feed CCE with a complete set of command line arguments
- there is the possibility to feed CCE with a .ecl file, that is basically a text file containing the project setup
- there are a lot of CCE Trial bundle type (SP, SP2, Basic): can they all be feeded by the same .ecl file or are there any differences?
- is there any particular CCE Trial bundle that I should select?

Thanks for your help

:thanks::)

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chaparral

14th June 2007, 16:09

I guess the reason is the Vista Desktop Theme setup: look at the toolbar icons width, they are larger than in XP, so the "single" toolbar row become "double", overwriting the Video Source textbox and button....

I hate M$... :mad:

In the next release I will reduce the toolbar icons width to a "Vista-proof" value...

:rolleyes:

Bye

Thanks Mrc, until then i'll wait to see...
About your latest questions about CCE support i can suggest you a link of a forum that someone who is developing a program like yours but with much more choices because he's devopping that since 2 yeras ago i guess and he has created a very interesting program so if you would you can take a look and post your questions and doubts about it...
The developer has the nick of Delta and he is usually very helpful...
http://www.avi2iso.com/

ChickenMan

15th June 2007, 06:41

The ecl files of SP & SP2 are very different and not compatable with one another. The ecl files of CCE SP 2.5, 2.6 & 2.7 RETAIL have all been the same format, with very minor differences. Some of those Trial version will not generate an ecl file (2.66 & 2.67) and programs use eclcce.exe to overcome that problem. CCE Basic ecl's are different again. The way both DVD2SVCD and The FilmMachine uses CCE is by loading in a generated avisynth file, saving out the ecl file, modifying it with calculated bitrate, then loading it back in and starting the encode. DVD ReBuilder does much the same thing I believe.

MrC

15th June 2007, 08:22

The ecl files of SP & SP2 are very different and not compatable with one another. The ecl files of CCE SP 2.5, 2.6 & 2.7 RETAIL have all been the same format, with very minor differences. Some of those Trial version will not generate an ecl file (2.66 & 2.67) and programs use eclcce.exe to overcome that problem. CCE Basic ecl's are different again.

So the answer to the question "Which is the CCE Trial bundle that I should select" is: CCE SP.

:thanks:

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MrC

16th June 2007, 13:49

AVStoDVD 1.0.0 beta 4 is available (http://sourceforge.net/projects/avstodvd/) :cool:

Added support to HCenc and CCE_SP/EclCCE
Added a very simple jobs list window for batch encoding (up to 10 jobs)
AVS script improved management and some more features

Hope you will try it and give me your impressions

:thanks: :)

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Pyr0

16th June 2007, 15:39

thanks for the new release MrC
i thought i'd see how the CCE works, but i don't seem to be able to start the encode using CCE SP 2.67.00.27
a few seconds after pressing start, the program ends with these messages:

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/2572/avs2dvd1sf0.jpg
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2405/avs2dvd2ad4.jpg

and this is what was in the log file:
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START LOG OPERATIONS: 16/06/2007 15:29:35

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AVStoDVD JOB SETTINGS:

Source Video file: D:\VIDEO\test1.avi
MPEG2 Encoding Options: High Quality (Normal Speed)
MPEG2 Encoder: CCE
DVD Video Format: NTSC
DVD Video Aspect Ratio: 16:9
DVD Video BitRate: 9000 (9000) kbps
DVD Audio Language: EN - English
DVD Chapters Interval: 5 min
Delete temp process files: No
Save Log file: Yes
Shutdown system when process complete: No
Output Folder: F:\TEST
DVD Output Setup: DVD Folder

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SOURCE FILES

Video: D:\VIDEO\test1.avi
Info: AVI (XviD) - 1384 kbps - 592x320 - 16:9 - 23.976 fps - 1:01:17 hours - 88170 frames

Audio: D:\VIDEO\test1.avi
Info: AVI (AC3) - 192 kbps - CBR - 48000Hz - 2ch - 1:01:17 hours

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AVISYNTH SCRIPT

DirectShowSource("D:\VIDEO\test1.avi")
ConvertToYV12
ChangeFPS(29.97)
LanczosResize(720,390,0,0.5)
AddBorders(0,8,0,8)
LanczosResize(720,480,0,0.5)

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END LOG OPERATIONS: 16/06/2007 15:29:38

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MrC

16th June 2007, 17:46

Mmmhh, I have tested CCE SP 2.50 Trial plus EclCCe and it worked. I hope 2.67 does not have different .ecl configuration! :confused:

Just before clicking OK when there is the warning message (VIDEO ENCODING problems), goto to your TEMP folder and look for the file CCS_SP.ecl. Open it directly in your CCE SP and take note of the error messages. Thanks a lot!!!

:)

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Pyr0

16th June 2007, 18:13

i copied the .ecl config file to the desktop before pressing ok in the warning box
opened it directly in CCE and there are no error messages, and no files listed in the CCE window
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/3536/ccexo2.jpg
below is the contents of the CCE_SP.ecl file:
; Cinema Craft Encoder SP -- Encoder Control List

[item]
title=test1_AVStoDVD
vid_out=1
vaf_out=1
aud_out=0
vid_file0=F:\TEST\test1_AVStoDVD.m2v
vid_file1=F:\TEST\test1_AVStoDVD.m2v
vaf_file=F:\TEST\test1_AVStoDVD.vaf
file_focused=0
encode_mode=0
packet_size=4096
timecode=0x1000000
width=720
height=576
vmode=1
frame_rate_idx=3
cbr_brate=9000
vbr_brate_avg=9000
vbr_brate_min=2000
vbr_brate_max=9000
vbr_bias=30
vbr_pass=2
quality_prec=25
use_filter=1
filter_val=6
seq_endcode=1
dvd=1
half_width=0
half_height=0
fast_mode=0
progressive=0
alternate_scan=1
non_linear=1
top_first=1
lum_level=0
intra_dc_prec=2
aspect_ratio=3
gop_m=3
gop_nm=5
gop_hdr=15
seq_hdr=1
all_closed_gop=0
fix_gop_length=0
mpeg1=0
mpeg1_cps=0
brate_idx=7
crc=1

[file]
name=C:\DOCUME~1\Pyr0\LOCALS~1\Temp\AviSynthP.avs
type=0
encode_first=0
encode_last=

MrC

18th June 2007, 12:18

Mmmhh, I have tested CCE SP 2.50 Trial plus EclCCe and it worked. I hope 2.67 does not have different .ecl configuration! :confused:

Yes CCE SP 2.6x do not accept ecl files from 2.5x..... :mad:

I'm trying to find out if there is a simple method to support all CCE SP, but if not I will limit the compatibility only to 2.6x.

How about the batch encoding? Does it works properly?

:)

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Pyr0

19th June 2007, 02:27

Thanks MrC :thanks:

I've just tested a quick batch encode (using HC Encoder) with two small samples.

Everything seems to have worked just fine and two DVD folders were created

Will AVStoDVD be able to use the Roba method for automatic sizing and one pass variable bitrate?

CCE with OPV is a *lot* faster than Qenc or HC Encoder :devil:

Will there be any support for mkv x264 files?

Dkruskie

19th June 2007, 05:32

Batch encode worked for me too. Two small samples ,Two dvd folders too. Maybe an option to add all jobs in batch list to make one dvd instead of each having having their own folder. So all movies would be on one dvd.

MrC

19th June 2007, 12:58

Will AVStoDVD be able to use the Roba method for automatic sizing and one pass variable bitrate?

Where can I find some info/code/sources about RoBa? I am not familiar with it and I need first to study how it works. :)

CCE with OPV is a *lot* faster than Qenc or HC Encoder :devil:

What do you mean with "CCE with OPV"?

Will there be any support for mkv x264 files?

Input or Output support? Input is already supported if you have installed a DirectShow codec that decode mkv x264... :cool:

Maybe an option to add all jobs in batch list to make one dvd instead of each having having their own folder. So all movies would be on one dvd.

As a matter of fact, batch list purpose is to have a list of jobs, each of them with their own settings. One job can be set up to output elementary streams (m2v and ac3), another to produce a ISO image, the last to burn a DVD.

I agree that AVStoDVD can include the possibility to put multiple input files onto a single output dvd (structure/image/disc), but I think that it should be managed in a different way. Somehow like TMPGEnc DVD Author for example. What do you think?

:)

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Pyr0

19th June 2007, 14:44

Where can I find some info/code/sources about RoBa? I am not familiar with it and I need first to study how it works. :)

I think it started from this post (Robshot/Bach):
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57518

The first real experience I had with it was using DVD2SVCD with tylo's D2SRoba. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=73243
It just made it so quick and easy to get accurate sized DVD's time after time... and to me, the quality looked just as good as multiple passes

What do you mean with "CCE with OPV"?

OPV = One Pass VBR

Input or Output support? Input is already supported if you have installed a DirectShow codec that decode mkv x264... :cool:

My bad, I had been trying it on a 100mb clip I have, but didn't realise the audio was DTS. Once that had been converted to AC3 and remuxed, AVStoDVD completed the conversion.

I found FAVC was able to encode the original clip with DTS - converting to AC3.
But for some reason, although both apps were using HCenc, the AVStoDVD result seemed slightly better with less blur in character movement. :)

Maybe I should have asked if there was going to be DTS support instead ;) :p

I agree that AVStoDVD can include the possibility to put multiple input files onto a single output dvd (structure/image/disc), but I think that it should be managed in a different way. Somehow like TMPGEnc DVD Author for example. What do you think?
That's how I usually put my DVD's together, using TMPGEnc DVD Author - quick and easy

MrC

19th June 2007, 15:54

I think it started from this post (Robshot/Bach):
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57518
The first real experience I had with it was using DVD2SVCD with tylo's D2SRoba. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=73243

:thanks: I will try to understand how to implement the method directy in AVStoDVD code. Unfortunately I did not find any source code of RoBa (not Open Source :confused: ?), and the plugin is for DVD2SVCD only....

My bad, I had been trying it on a 100mb clip I have, but didn't realise the audio was DTS. Once that had been converted to AC3 and remuxed, AVStoDVD completed the conversion.

Yes, you hit the point: AVStoDVD support to DTS is very "improvable". :p

:)

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bionic

19th June 2007, 17:20

Not sure if this helps, but opv/roba is implemented in ccefront and source is available.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=92157&highlight=ccefront

Just did a few small test encodes with HC, Quenc and cce 2.67 all turned out great. Not tested batch yet.
Very nice app and great work :thanks:

And +1 for batch encoding multiple sources to one dvd, but this would perhaps include some menu generating function?

One q though, have you considered the free version of muxman as a possible replacement for dvdauthor etc?

oh and any chance of choosing to display or not to display the splash screen?, and editing the avisynth automatic defaults? :)

Dkruskie

19th June 2007, 19:24

TMPGEnc DVD Author is not not prob either..DVDLab pro will also take the vob files:) With HCenc how about being able to change the max bitrate and the matrix it uses, right now it uses only the mpeg matrix. In HCenc I usually use the notch matrix and 8000 for max bitrate.

MrC

20th June 2007, 15:10

And +1 for batch encoding multiple sources to one dvd, but this would perhaps include some menu generating function?

Menu generating is in my mind since a while. I have not yet faced the problem because VB6 does not help very much in graphical matters...

One q though, have you considered the free version of muxman as a possible replacement for dvdauthor etc?

Why don't you like DVDAuthor? Better question: why do you prefer Muxman?

oh and any chance of choosing to display or not to display the splash screen?

Next release will have it :cool:

editing the avisynth automatic defaults? :)

What do you mean? Having the AVS windows opened by default?

With HCenc how about being able to change the max bitrate and the matrix it uses, right now it uses only the mpeg matrix. In HCenc I usually use the notch matrix and 8000 for max bitrate.

HCenc Matrix will be supported in the next release. You can right now change max bitrate by unchecking the AutoBitRate switch.

:)

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bionic

20th June 2007, 18:06

Why don't you like DVDAuthor? Better question: why do you prefer Muxman?

Well.. For "us" d2s users theres been a point for a while to avoid dvdauthor and MPlex and use imago or muxman(with muxman as the preferred) instead.

I personally havent noticed any significant stutters or other playback problems with my high bitrate encodes authored with mplex and dvdauthor.
But others seem to have, also afaict muxman is a tad bit faster.

For reference:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=112803&highlight=imago
and
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=115369

Next release will have it :cool: Thanks :)

What do you mean? Having the AVS windows opened by default?
No.. i usually use lanczos4 as resizer so id like to have an option to edit the default automatic script so i dont have to edit the script every time i do an encode.
...or better yet, an gui option/dropdown menu to choose between filter configurations in a user editable avs(much like d2s frameserving tab) so the users could add a the resizers and filters they use regularely, that would be real sweet.

By default are closed gops on or off for all encoders?

And thanks much for adding cce!!
I hope its possible to add opv and support for cce 2.5.
Can you give some detail on what high quality/very high quality does for cce atm, 2 or more passes etc.?

:)

Edit:
Just noticed, if i dont have a source file loaded and i launch the avs window and untick the automatic script checkbox,
i get a runtime 13 type mismatch error and avstodvd exits.

MrC

21st June 2007, 10:00

Well.. For "us" d2s users theres been a point for a while to avoid dvdauthor and MPlex and use imago or muxman(with muxman as the preferred) instead.

I personally havent noticed any significant stutters or other playback problems with my high bitrate encodes authored with mplex and dvdauthor.
But others seem to have, also afaict muxman is a tad bit faster.

:thanks: I will take a look

No.. i usually use lanczos4 as resizer so id like to have an option to edit the default automatic script so i dont have to edit the script every time i do an encode.
...or better yet, an gui option/dropdown menu to choose between filter configurations in a user editable avs(much like d2s frameserving tab) so the users could add a the resizers and filters they use regularely, that would be real sweet.

Maybe I can add a tab in the Options window to personalize AVS defaults.

By default are closed gops on or off for all encoders?

On

Can you give some detail on what high quality/very high quality does for cce atm, 2 or more passes etc.?

Below attached the ecl files used in the 2 cases (with A2D default settings).

Just noticed, if i dont have a source file loaded and i launch the avs window and untick the automatic script checkbox,
i get a runtime 13 type mismatch error and avstodvd exits.

Ops! Fixed! :thanks::)

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bionic

21st June 2007, 13:15

Maybe I can add a tab in the Options window to personalize AVS defaults.
Nice, sounds good :)

Originally Posted by bionic
By default are closed gops on or off for all encoders?

On
Would it be possible to have an option ? :)

Below attached the ecl files used in the 2 cases (with A2D default settings)
Im ecl illiterate but ill take a look, thanks. Edit: nothing to it really

:)

MrC

21st June 2007, 14:06

My bad, I had been trying it on a 100mb clip I have, but didn't realise the audio was DTS. Once that had been converted to AC3 and remuxed, AVStoDVD completed the conversion.

The main problem is that MediaInfo (A2D uses that library to identify media types) recognizes correctly DTS tracks only if they are a "standalone" file. If muxed it has some problems.

I will try to find a trick to solve this issue

:)

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MrC

23rd June 2007, 09:34

AVStoDVD 1.0.0 beta 5 is available (http://sourceforge.net/projects/avstodvd/) :cool:

Added AviSynth basic settings preferences
Added MPEG2 advanced encoding options
Added "No Splash Screen at startup" option
Improved support to CCE SP (2.50, 2.66, 2.67, not 2.70)
Improved AVS Script handling
Improved support of DTS audio tracks
A bunch of bugs fixed
AVS script improved management

Not yet CCE RoBa support and multiple titles into a single DVD.

I did not have much time do deeply debug the new features.... so I apologize if you find some bugs.

Hope you will try it and give me your impressions.

:thanks: :)

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bionic

23rd June 2007, 20:22

This is simply very very nice, i like it more and more.
Ive tested: small clips both pal and ntsc, mp3 and ac3 source audio.
Cce 2.50 with ecl, QuEnc and HC all available quality profiles, with and without encoding audio and lanczos4 as resizer.

So far so good, nothing to report from me atm other than..
Thanks, and keep up the good work :)

MrC

29th June 2007, 17:24

AVStoDVD 1.0.0 Final is available (http://sourceforge.net/projects/avstodvd/) :cool:

A good amount of bugs fixed
Improved batch encoding
Improved log activity saving

Really no big news... but there were some stuff to fix. Should be a stable release.

:)

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RickA

1st July 2007, 15:18

Greetings,

Thankyou for a great product. I am eagerly looking forward to trying it out very soon. Thanks as well for adding CCE support. If you are still seeking more info on how to integrate with the different versions of CCE, jdobbs creator of the wonderfull DVD-RB program seems to have a steady grasp on the subject.

Cheers,
Rick

MysticE

11th July 2007, 21:52

MrC

15th July 2007, 16:17

Have just tried a few clips. They are XviD 25 f/s avi music vids. I set up to use HCenc. All goes well and the quality is very nice. I have checked NTSC and have tried with and without pulldown. When HCenc is running under pulldown it says 'no', even though I've ticked it.

Is there something I'm missing? Should pulldown be used on a 25 f/s source if going to NTSC?

Thanks

From HCenc General Info pdf:

*PULLDOWN
This command sets pulldown flags for 23.976 ? 29.97 pulldown.
Interlaced will be turned off, if your source is interlaced, please de-interlace it first.
If the source isn't 23.976 fps this setting will be ignored.

HCenc Pulldown is not needed when going from 25 to 29.97 fps. Is audio out of sync?

:)

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MysticE

15th July 2007, 21:51

.... HCenc Pulldown is not needed when going from 25 to 29.97 fps. Is audio out of sync?

:)

Bye
Nope all is fine. I'm try to increase my knowledge/skills and I always see folks going on and on about using Pulldown to get to 29.97fps NTSC rather than ChangeFPS(29.97). On other forums they always rant against apps like Nero because pulldown is not used when going to NTSC. With AVI2DVD a separate Pulldown phase is always used. I prefer your app though (I'm converting XviD 25fps music videos) because I can alter the script and the bitrate and end up with muxed MPEG2, which is all I need. I realize that I can delete ChangeFPS(29.97) from the script and choose Demuxed MPEG streams, run DGPulldown then mux with TMPGenc, but that's a pain.

I asked about pulldown for 25fps sources on another forum and got this response from jdobbs:

Encode it at 25fps, then use Neuron2's DGPulldown against the output. Up until he wrote that code, I'm not sure anyone else had given much thought to converting that way. It also makes sure your audio stays in sync.

I do like your app alot and realize that the 25fps pulldown thing is an HCenc issue. Unfortunately the pulldown thing still confuses me. :confused:

Thanks for the reply and the app. :thanks:

MrC

16th July 2007, 10:45

I have a very practical attitude: if the output video quality is good (both on PC and TV) and audio is not out of sync, why wondering if pulldown is needed? ;)

I am really not an expert of PAL to NTSC conversion, but, according to HCenc, pulldown is to be used only when going from 23.976 to 29.97 and not from 25 to 29.97.

Maybe some Doom9 NTSC gurus may help us....

;)

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Mr_Odwin

16th July 2007, 12:11

DGPulldown can be used to apply any x->29.97 Pulldown, where x is greater than about 20 and less than 29.97. HC only performs the standard 23.976->29.97 pulldown.

MrC

16th July 2007, 12:48

DGPulldown can be used to apply any x->29.97 Pulldown, where x is greater than about 20 and less than 29.97. HC only performs the standard 23.976->29.97 pulldown.

Thanks Mr_Odwin! One more thing: what are the benefits of pulldown instead of directly changing fps via AviSynth (by ChangeFPS(29.97))?

;)

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Mr_Odwin

16th July 2007, 13:06

The major advantage that jumps to my mind is that the same bitrate is used to encode less frames.

MrC

16th July 2007, 16:40

In conclusion:

QuEnc, HCenc and CCE SP can perform a "standard" 23.976 -> 29.97 pulldown (called 3:2 Pulldown).
Generic fps increase can be done by using DGPulldown (better quality but slower) or AviSynth's ChangeFPS (lesser quality but faster).

Correct?

;)

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MrC

16th July 2007, 16:47

I realize that I can delete ChangeFPS(29.97) from the script and choose Demuxed MPEG streams, run DGPulldown then mux with TMPGenc, but that's a pain.

To speed up the process (until I will (?) insert DGPulldown step in AVStoDVD) you can set PAL as Video Format, so that you do not have to modify AVS script manually.

And you can use AVStoDVD as a M2V+AC3 muxer too. :cool:

;)

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Mr_Odwin

16th July 2007, 17:21

Remember that if a 25->29.97 pulldown is to be performed the video needs to be encoded at the destination NTSC size.

MrC

16th July 2007, 19:22

Remember that if a 25->29.97 pulldown is to be performed the video needs to be encoded at the destination NTSC size.

You're right! NTSC requires 480 pixel vertical resolution.

@MysticE
Forget my suggestion... I really need a holiday...

;)

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Delta2

21st July 2007, 17:55

Thanks Mrc, until then i'll wait to see...
About your latest questions about CCE support i can suggest you a link of a forum that someone who is developing a program like yours but with much more choices because he's devopping that since 2 yeras ago i guess and he has created a very interesting program so if you would you can take a look and post your questions and doubts about it...
The developer has the nick of Delta and he is usually very helpful...
http://www.avi2iso.com/

Well, yes, almost 2 years for fun

There is currently 2 Portuguese Projects alive : D2MP and AVI2ISO, once there was another called AVIXDVD in which AVI2ISO was based on, but it died. D2MP uses Directshow encoding for audio, much the same as I use that for RMVB or other formats. Mine was mostly stressed on CCE SP2 and fast encoding for movies in Dual Core Systems...but that is something I have to do, directshow MP3 VBR to PCM

The main problem is that I use High Definition matrices which throws qFactor to Higher levels in CCE, if someone uses them in movies more than 1CD. I don't think Roba will fix that because it gives a smaller qfactor in that matrices aside my own simulation code

Another problem is using VB.NET and C#, a miscellaneous of both, which needs Framework 2.0

I wish you good luck, MrC

MysticE

21st July 2007, 20:06

You're right! NTSC requires 480 pixel vertical resolution.

@MysticE
Forget my suggestion... I really need a holiday...

;)

Bye
Don't get me wrong, I love your program. The whole pulldown thing just confuses me. I'm using your app (with HCenc) to convert PAL (25fps) sources (music vids), AVI, MPG, and VOBs to 16:9 NTSC. The ability to tweak the script, set my bitrates, and trim vertically is great. Easy and quick, the results are wonderful.

Don't mean to be a pest, thanks again. :)

MrC

22nd July 2007, 15:57

Don't get me wrong, I love your program. The whole pulldown thing just confuses me. I'm using your app (with HCenc) to convert PAL (25fps) sources (music vids), AVI, MPG, and VOBs to 16:9 NTSC. The ability to tweak the script, set my bitrates, and trim vertically is great. Easy and quick, the results are wonderful.

Don't mean to be a pest, thanks again. :)

Too many compliments! I'm becoming red... :p

Remember: any suggestions how to improve AVStoDVD are welcome

:)

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MrC

29th July 2007, 13:07

AVStoDVD release 1.0.1 (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340) is available.

Change log:

Some bugs fixed
MediaInfo updated to 0.7.5.0
Improved Help Content
Revised max bitrate automatic calculation
Added 2CoreEnc for Dual Core CPU systems (QuEnc only supported to be configured manually)
Added "convertfps=true" for video DirectShowSource to support VFR video streams (WMV, ASF, MKV)

DGPulldown option and subtitles support are coming with release 1.1.0. Stay tuned!

:)

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MysticE

29th July 2007, 19:07

Cool, looking forward to trying it.

Grazie :)

gus8511q

1st August 2007, 19:48

AVStoDVD release 1.0.1 (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340) is available.

Change log:

Some bugs fixed
MediaInfo updated to 0.7.5.0
Improved Help Content
Revised max bitrate automatic calculation
Added 2CoreEnc for Dual Core CPU systems (QuEnc only supported to be configured manually)
Added "convertfps=true" for video DirectShowSource to support VFR video streams (WMV, ASF, MKV)

DGPulldown option and subtitles support are coming with release 1.1.0. Stay tuned!

:)

Bye

thnks man, you are the best
im looking forward to release srt support
thnks again

MrC

2nd August 2007, 11:29

@MysticE and everyone interested in

DGPulldown support enabled in release 1.1.0 beta (http://rapidshare.com/files/46499982/AVStoDVD_110beta1_Install.exe.html).

Could you please try it and give me your opinion. DGPulldown can be selected in Settings/Encoding/FPS Upsize.

:)

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bionic

2nd August 2007, 15:51

And you added a gops option too..excellent :)
Testing as i post.

Edit:
so far so good, no problems noticed here :)

gus8511q

5th August 2007, 14:20

And you added a gops option too..excellent :)
Testing as i post.

Edit:
so far so good, no problems noticed here :)

one problem with your programm is that i cant use 2 avi files for input to make 1 dvd...

MrC

5th August 2007, 14:55

one problem with your programm is that i cant use 2 avi files for input to make 1 dvd...

Yes you are right, it is not AVStoDVD's purpose (for now...). It would require some menu handling, and I want to upgrade a little bit AVStoDVD's capabilities in MPEG2 encoding before entering that world

:)

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boywondr16

8th August 2007, 02:28

MrC

8th August 2007, 08:17

**banging head against monitor**

I've run into a complete block--every time I try to us AVStoDVD with HCenc as the encoder, I'm met with "ERROR: can't open log file".

I've tried multiple different movies...I've tried CCE instead, and got a garbled mess...I even tried rolling back to no codecs and reinstalling.

I'm getting nowhere fast with this. Any ideas? Please?

**abject begging**

No panic please! :) Let's try to understand what's the problem.

1. Which AVStoDVD release are you using? I hope 1.0.1.
2. Which HCenc release are you using? You should use at least 0.17.
3. When do the message "ERROR: can't open log file" come out?
4. What do you mean got a garbled mess when using CCE SP?
5. Have you tried using QuEnc If yes, any problem?
6. Can you copy&paste the AVStoDVD log file?
7. Have you installed every codec needed to play the clip you want to convert?
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boywondr16

8th August 2007, 21:19

Nah. No panic. Just frustration. Forgive my post being less than informational, but it was the last thing I did before crashing for the night...

No panic please! :) Let's try to understand what's the problem.

1. Which AVStoDVD release are you using? I hope 1.0.1.

Correct

2. Which HCenc release are you using? You should use at least 0.17.

0.21

3. When do the message "ERROR: can't open log file" come out?

It appears shortly after HCenc appears. In other words, HCenc pops up ready to encode, sorts out the file info, and then gives the error message.

4. What do you mean got a garbled mess when using CCE SP?

Using one of the same files, I attempted using CCE and the resulting video looked like a scrambled cable TV channel. That was before I unregistered all codecs and reinstalled.

5. Have you tried using QuEnc If yes, any problem?

No. Personal preference. So, that's one thought...

6. Can you copy&paste the AVStoDVD log file?

I will include in next post...

7. Have you installed every codec needed to play the clip you want to convert?
Yeah, even going as far as unregistering all and installing the K-Lite Codec Pack.

boywondr16

8th August 2007, 21:37

Here's the log, but I've still not figured out anything from it/them...

<8/8/2007 2:35:04 PM>
JOB START
<>

<8/8/2007 2:35:05 PM>
JOB SETTINGS
Source Video file: D:\My Videos\Documentaries\CNN Presents - In the Footsteps of bin Laden (2006.TVRip.SoS)\CNN Presents - In the Footsteps of bin Laden (2006.TVRip.SoS).avi
Source Audio file: D:\My Videos\Documentaries\CNN Presents - In the Footsteps of bin Laden (2006.TVRip.SoS)\CNN Presents - In the Footsteps of bin Laden (2006.TVRip.SoS).avi
MPEG2 Encoding Options: Very High Quality (Low Speed)
MPEG2 Encoder: HCenc
DVD Video Format: NTSC
DVD Video Aspect Ratio: 4:3
DVD Video BitRate: 6159 (8000) kbps
DVD Audio Format: AC3
DVD Audio BitRate: 192 kbps
DVD Audio Language: EN - English
DVD Chapters Interval: 5 min
Delete temp process files: Yes
Save Log file: Yes
Shutdown system when process complete: No
Output Folder: M:
DVD Output Setup: DVD Folder
<>

<8/8/2007 2:35:05 PM>
SOURCE FILES
Video: D:\My Videos\Documentaries\CNN Presents - In the Footsteps of bin Laden (2006.TVRip.SoS)\CNN Presents - In the Footsteps of bin Laden (2006.TVRip.SoS).avi
Info: AVI (XviD) - 906 kbps - 640x480 - 4:3 - 29.979 fps - 1:35:24 hours - 171560 frames
Audio: D:\My Videos\Documentaries\CNN Presents - In the Footsteps of bin Laden (2006.TVRip.SoS)\CNN Presents - In the Footsteps of bin Laden (2006.TVRip.SoS).avi
Info: AVI (MPEG-1 Audio layer 3) - 95 kbps - VBR - 44100Hz - 2ch - 1:35:24 hours
<>

<8/8/2007 2:35:05 PM>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Video = DirectShowSource("D:\My Videos\Documentaries\CNN Presents - In the Footsteps of bin Laden (2006.TVRip.SoS)\CNN Presents - In the Footsteps of bin Laden (2006.TVRip.SoS).avi", convertfps=true)
Audio = DirectShowSource("D:\My Videos\Documentaries\CNN Presents - In the Footsteps of bin Laden (2006.TVRip.SoS)\CNN Presents - In the Footsteps of bin Laden (2006.TVRip.SoS).avi")
AudioDub(Video, Audio)
ConvertToYV12
ChangeFPS(29.97)
LanczosResize(720,480,0,0.5)
SSRC(48000)
EnsureVBRMP3Sync()

<>

<8/8/2007 2:35:30 PM>
JOB COMPLETED.
<>

Attempting QuEnc, currently...

MrC

9th August 2007, 08:25

@boywondr16

Yes, you are right, no clues from the log file. It seems a "very standard" job, xvid+mp3 to DVD.

Let me know if QuEnc works.

Another try could be removing the codec pack (I really do not like that mess) and install ONLY the codecs you need (i.e. XviD and MP3) or the all-in-one ffdshow (http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow-tryout).

IMO ffdshow is the best choice: you get rid of all single codecs and have very good encoding/decoding quality.

:)

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MrC

9th August 2007, 09:31

Why not other good converter software.
Like this Daniusoft Video Converter?:rolleyes:

Just one BIG reason: it is not free... :rolleyes::)

And you are OT

;)

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boywondr16

9th August 2007, 23:42

QuEnc worked, which makes the whole thing even more odd...

Oh, well...adjustment and on I go. I will try again with ffshow later, and remove the KLCP.

MrC

10th August 2007, 07:27

Another try: select HCenc as default encoder, save settings and the copy&paste the txt content of AVStoDVD.ini file you find in AVStoDVD installation folder.

However, when encoding @ 6157 kbps, the encoder really do not make any difference.... so you can go with QuEnc.

:)

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MrC

10th August 2007, 19:35

AVStoDVD release 1.1.0 (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340&package_id=233646&release_id=531354) is available.

Change log:

Moved Postprocessing Options to Settings Window
Moved MPEG2 Advanced Options to Main Window
Added "Close All GOPs" among MPEG2 Advanced Options
Added DGPulldown support (exe included in the installer)
Added text subtitles multiplexing
Added Spline16Resize and made Lanczos4Resize as default
Added consistency check on source files at job startup
Changed default DVD sizes from 4438/8876 to 4435/8870 for subtitles support
Revised resizing procedure in AVS Script
Improved log activity saving

There are many changes, so I'm expecting some bugs too...:p

As usual, comments and suggestions are welcome.

:)

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boywondr16

11th August 2007, 00:16

OK...I've given up trying to reshape my codecs mess and did a clean install of Windows XP. Installed K-Lite Codec Pack clean.

In using QuEnc, I'm now getting errors related to the AudioDub commands.

Here's the latest log:
<8/10/2007 5:10:05 PM>
JOB START
<>

<8/10/2007 5:10:05 PM>
JOB SETTINGS
Source Video file: D:\My Videos\PBS Frontline - News War - Complete 4 Part Series - 2007 [SoS]\PBS Frontline - News War, Part 1of4 - Secrets, Sources and Spin, Part I.m4v
Source Audio file: D:\My Videos\PBS Frontline - News War - Complete 4 Part Series - 2007 [SoS]\PBS Frontline - News War, Part 1of4 - Secrets, Sources and Spin, Part I.m4v
MPEG2 Encoding Options: Very High Quality (Low Speed)
MPEG2 Encoder: QuEnc
MPEG2 Advanced Options: Progressive - Auto GOPs - No Matrix
DVD Video Format: NTSC
DVD Video Aspect Ratio: 16:9
DVD Video BitRate: 9500 (9500) kbps
DVD Audio Format: MP2
DVD Audio BitRate: 192 kbps
Delete temp process files: Yes
Save Log file: Yes
Output Folder: C:\Documents and Settings\Troy\My Documents
DVD Output Setup: Muxed MPEG2
<>

<8/10/2007 5:10:05 PM>
SOURCE FILES
Video: D:\My Videos\PBS Frontline - News War - Complete 4 Part Series - 2007 [SoS]\PBS Frontline - News War, Part 1of4 - Secrets, Sources and Spin, Part I.m4v
Info: isom (H.264) - 450 kbps - 512x288 - 16:9 - 29.97 fps - 54:35 minutes - 98161 frames
Audio: D:\My Videos\PBS Frontline - News War - Complete 4 Part Series - 2007 [SoS]\PBS Frontline - News War, Part 1of4 - Secrets, Sources and Spin, Part I.m4v
Info: isom (AAC) - 51 kbps - VBR - 24000Hz - 1ch - 54:35 minutes
Subs:
<>

<8/10/2007 5:10:05 PM>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Video = DirectShowSource("D:\My Videos\PBS Frontline - News War - Complete 4 Part Series - 2007 [SoS]\PBS Frontline - News War, Part 1of4 - Secrets, Sources and Spin, Part I.m4v", convertfps=true)
Audio = DirectShowSource("D:\My Videos\PBS Frontline - News War - Complete 4 Part Series - 2007 [SoS]\PBS Frontline - News War, Part 1of4 - Secrets, Sources and Spin, Part I.m4v")
AudioDub(Video, Audio)
ConvertToYV12
#Using DGPulldown to upsize FPS
Lanczos4Resize(352,240)
SSRC(48000)

<>

<8/10/2007 5:10:05 PM>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
QuEnc (Video) Parameters: -i "C:\DOCUME~1\Troy\LOCALS~1\Temp\PBS Frontline - News War, Part 1of4 - Secrets, Sources and Spin, Part I_AVStoDVD.avs" -o "C:\Documents and Settings\Troy\My Documents\PBS Frontline - News War, Part 1of4 - Secrets, Sources and Spin, Part I_AVStoDVD.m2v" -b 9500 -maxbitrate 9500 -2 -hq -vbr -aspectratio 16:9 -nointerlaced -mpeg2mux noaudio -dc 10 -priority 5 -auto -close
<>

<8/10/2007 5:10:12 PM>
JOB COMPLETED.
<>

MrC

11th August 2007, 11:17

OK...I've given up trying to reshape my codecs mess and did a clean install of Windows XP. Installed K-Lite Codec Pack clean.

Good idea! :)

In using QuEnc, I'm now getting errors related to the AudioDub commands.

Which kind of errors? When you play your m4v file on WMP, do you get same message?

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boywondr16

14th August 2007, 00:38

Good idea! :)

Which kind of errors? When you play your m4v file on WMP, do you get same message?

Bye

Thanks for working with me on this MrC...
No issue with playback on WMP. For some reason, AVIsynth apparently didn't like the audio track on it. Other files have worked, though I'm still having to use QuEnc, because HC isn't seeing the log file from AVIsynth.

MrC

19th August 2007, 12:49

HC isn't seeing the log file from AVIsynth.

Just a thought: your HC exe file is on a hard drive unit, isn't it? Can you post here the AVStoDVD.ini file you find in AVStoDVD installation folder?

:)

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ChickenMan

21st August 2007, 09:18

Thought I had better check out the latest version 1.1.0. Added an NTSC avi of dimensions 640x368 with dar of 1.739. Thats almost 16:9 widescreen in my book but AVStoDVD insisted on encoding it to 4:3 and with an AddBorders of 56 top and bottom.

It should have been encoded to 704x480 or 720x480 with AddBorders of 8 to left and right sides. I can edit the avisynth script fine but I cant find anywhere to change the dar of 4:3 to 16:9. Am I missing something obvious ?

MrC

21st August 2007, 10:43

AVStoDVD checks if the DAR is equal or more than 1.77. If it is, then it autochecks the CheckBox "WideScreen Format" in the AVS Script Window. You can click on the CheckBox manually if you want to force widescreen format.

Note that in case like that, AVStoDVD will not AddBorders on left and right sides, but will crop 4 pixels top and bottom.

It should works, keep me informed.

:)

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ChickenMan

22nd August 2007, 06:57

"..CheckBox "WideScreen Format" in the AVS Script Window." Thanks, I missed that. Checked the Widescreen Format box and indeed the script changed to cropping 4 top and bottom.

However, using CCE 2.70 it started encoding using a Q value of 60, that seamed way to high for a 1hr 31m xvid. I then ran the same avi through DVD2SVCD with RoBa and CCE 2.70 and it calculated a Q of 9. Final video encoded size from AVStoDVD was 1.5gb (expected with a Q of 60) and from DVD2SVCD was 4.1gb

I also checked to use DGPulldown as the original avi had a frame rate of 23.976. But 1000's of errors were displayed when DVDAuthor was creating the final VIDEO_TS folder and files, saying unknown framerate. Checked one of the final VOB files with GSpot and it reports a frame rate of 30.00fps. Checked the *.m2v file with BitrateViewer and it also reports 30.00 fps instead of 29.97 fps. I burnt it to a DVD-RW and as expected, my dvd player would not play the disk.

MrC

22nd August 2007, 08:18

However, using CCE 2.70 it started encoding using a Q value of 60, that seamed way to high for a 1hr 31m xvid. I then ran the same avi through DVD2SVCD with RoBa and CCE 2.70 and it calculated a Q of 9. Final video encoded size from AVStoDVD was 1.5gb (expected with a Q of 60) and from DVD2SVCD was 4.1gb

No support to CCE 2.70. Only to 2.50, 2.66 and 2.67 as it is reported in the commond dialog window to choose CCE exe file. The reason is that EclCCE does not support 2.70 too.
Could you check if you have same undersizing problems with lower CCE SP releases?

I also checked to use DGPulldown as the original avi had a frame rate of 23.976. But 1000's of errors were displayed when DVDAuthor was creating the final VIDEO_TS folder and files, saying unknown framerate. Checked one of the final VOB files with GSpot and it reports a frame rate of 30.00fps. Checked the *.m2v file with BitrateViewer and it also reports 30.00 fps instead of 29.97 fps. I burnt it to a DVD-RW and as expected, my dvd player would not play the disk.

Yes, my fault: making last changes in release 1.1.0 I have introduced a bug when encoding in NTSC.

You can try, if you will, a preview of release 1.1.1 (http://www.megaupload.com/it/?d=RZPDTKC9). It is AVStoDVD.exe only. Copy to your AVStoDVD folder, overwrite current AVStoDVD.exe. For compatibilty reason, delete AVStoDVD.ini file too.

Thanks for your debug

:)

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sollarman

22nd August 2007, 20:32

Hello MrC! We were communicating via email,I think this is better place to write comments about bugs and feature requests. Would it be nice to add capability of encoding video with more than one audio track ?

chaparral

23rd August 2007, 04:17

ChickenMan

23rd August 2007, 04:21

Upgraded to the new 1.1.1 but regardless of what version I used of CCE, with or without Eclcce, as soon as hit OK to start encoding, error box pops up with "Problem encountered during VIDEO ENCODING process. Please check your settings and then retry" I then uninstalled and went back to 1.1.0 and all is well again. This time I used cce 2.50 with eclcce and got correct final file size as well. :) but still at 30 fps :(

MrC

23rd August 2007, 07:50

Hi MrC, i tried to upgrade for your latest version of the program since one earlier version and now i just simply can't install it...
I'm running windows vista ultimate 32bits and i can't figure out what is going on...
This could be normal??

Please,look here... http://i16.tinypic.com/522ubyp.jpg

Thanks and many thanks for your great work:)

Try a full uninstall of previous versions and then install 1.1.0, or wait a little bit (end of week, I hope) and download 1.1.1 final

Upgraded to the new 1.1.1 but regardless of what version I used of CCE, with or without Eclcce, as soon as hit OK to start encoding, error box pops up with "Problem encountered during VIDEO ENCODING process. Please check your settings and then retry" I then uninstalled and went back to 1.1.0 and all is well again. This time I used cce 2.50 with eclcce and got correct final file size as well. :) but still at 30 fps :(

Can you post or mail me the .log file? Let me check what's going on with CCE.

Guys, many thanks for your patience and support. Really appreciated.

:)

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MrC

23rd August 2007, 09:44

New 1.1.1 beta build (http://www.megaupload.com/it/?d=A15V8XCO). Only exe file. Should fix CCE error.

:)

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chaparral

23rd August 2007, 14:48

Try a full uninstall of previous versions and then install 1.1.0, or wait a little bit (end of week, I hope) and download 1.1.1 final

Can you post or mail me the .log file? Let me check what's going on with CCE.

Guys, many thanks for your patience and support. Really appreciated.

:)

Bye

Thanks MrC:thanks::thanks::thanks:

MrC

25th August 2007, 14:21

AVStoDVD release 1.1.1 (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340) is available.

Change log:

Some bugs fixed
Revised "Settings/Encoding" Window layout
Removed "Automatic" option in "AVS Source Filter"
Added VideoInterlacement in video stream info
Added "ConvertFPS()" option in "FPS Upsize Filter"
Added "ConvertToMono" function to AVS Script if source audio has 1 channel
Added "NoInstall" package without installer (7-Zip file)

As usual, comments and suggestions are welcome.

:)

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ChickenMan

27th August 2007, 05:10

Tried the link to 1.1.1 but all I get is

404 Error - Page Not Found from the SourceForge site.

MrC

27th August 2007, 07:45

Tried the link to 1.1.1 but all I get is

404 Error - Page Not Found from the SourceForge site.

Fixed (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340)

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MysticE

24th September 2007, 19:43

Hi MrC,

Just like to say 1.1.1 seems to be working fine (almost). The DGPulldown, Matrix choices, and Interlace encoding are a nice touch.

I mostly use it for converting PAL music videos to 16:9 NTSC with HCenc on Best. One thing I would like to see implemented is the retention of my settings. I always use Muxed MPEG2 Streams, Video Avg Bitrate 6000, Max bitrate 7000, and Audio bitrate 256. (a very minor inconvenience).

One odd thing thing though, I finally tried it on an Xvid movie. All went well except at the very end. The length was listed in the log as 1:23:21 but in NeroShowtime it shows as 1:23:16 and it stops at 1:23:12 where it stayed (looking like it was paused). On my standalone it stops at 1:23:14. Hitting stop on my player then play (resume on) took me right back to 1:23:14. Haven't had a chance to try another.

From the log:

Video: E:\Files\XviD-SC.avi
Info: AVI (XviD) - 1017 kbps - 592x320 - 16:9 - 23.976 fps - PPF - 1:23:21 hours - 119913 frames
Audio: E:\\Files\XviD-SC.avi
Info: AVI (MPEG-1 Audio layer 3) - 131 kbps - VBR - 48000Hz - 2ch - 1:23:21 hours

Regards,
ME

MrC

25th September 2007, 15:31

Nice to hear from you, MysticE :)

One thing I would like to see implemented is the retention of my settings. I always use Muxed MPEG2 Streams, Video Avg Bitrate 6000, Max bitrate 7000, and Audio bitrate 256. (a very minor inconvenience).

Good idea, I will implement it in release 1.1.3. I am going to publish release 1.1.2 within few days :cool:

One odd thing thing though, I finally tried it on an Xvid movie. All went well except at the very end. The length was listed in the log as 1:23:21 but in NeroShowtime it shows as 1:23:16 and it stops at 1:23:12 where it stayed (looking like it was paused). On my standalone it stops at 1:23:14. Hitting stop on my player then play (resume on) took me right back to 1:23:14. Haven't had a chance to try another.

If you have time, demux video and audio from the DVD you created and feed these 2 demuxed files to AVStoDVD (or directly to MediaInfo GUI or to GSpot). Write down the time length of both of them. Are they equal or different?

:)

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MR Nice

25th September 2007, 21:34

Can you make your own root menu and also add your own background image? What is this program like for converting nstc 29.97fps to pal 25fps?

MR Nice

25th September 2007, 21:43

Q? Can this program convert a batch of avi files?

MysticE

26th September 2007, 10:38

.... If you have time, demux video and audio from the DVD you created and feed these 2 demuxed files to AVStoDVD (or directly to MediaInfo GUI or to GSpot). Write down the time length of both of them. Are they equal or different?

:)

Bye
Regarding the end freeze I tried one with AVI2DVD which also uses DVDAuthor with the same result. I opened them in PgcEdit and noted that the Cell Still time of the last chapter was 255, changing it to zero fixed things, allowing my player to now shut off after I fall asleep. :)

I also got this when first opening them:

MrC

26th September 2007, 11:12

Can you make your own root menu and also add your own background image?

No menu generation capability, right now. Maybe in the future... :)

What is this program like for converting nstc 29.97fps to pal 25fps?

Try it and give us your impressions :)

Q?

Could you please add more "verbosity" to this question?

Can this program convert a batch of avi files?

Yes

:)

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MR Nice

26th September 2007, 13:34

Hi, I tried to add 5 avi tv episodes to your program but it will only let me add one avi file. Can you tell me how to add a batch of avi files?

rendez2k

26th September 2007, 13:43

Hi, I tried to add 5 avi tv episodes to your program but it will only let me add one avi file. Can you tell me how to add a batch of avi files?

Batch to me means adding 5 separate movies to 5 separate discs. You want to author a full disc, surely with a menu for navigation which AVStoDVD won't do. Theres lots of other tools on this forum alone which will do that.

MR Nice

26th September 2007, 14:08

I mean 5 avi tv episodes onto one dvd. A batch of avis means more than one avi onto one disc not five separate discs. Hope this helps

rendez2k

26th September 2007, 14:10

As I said, AVStoDVD can't do this. It will accept one movie per job, so you'd need to join them together first, which is probably useless for 5 TV episodes!

Delta2

26th September 2007, 14:10

Batch to me means adding 5 separate movies to 5 separate discs. You want to author a full disc, surely with a menu for navigation which AVStoDVD won't do. Theres lots of other tools on this forum alone which will do that.

Taking the big brother (VSO) as the master reference, that issue is the most hard task to a free gui to accomplish

- people like speed, with good results, that's a fact

What strategy should a gui use for this ?

A) convert separately, and author all together in authoring stage ?
B) join the movies and subtitles like VDub append segments ?

--

A) it is only effective if you use 1 pass

5 episodes = 5 passes each

imagine more passes

5 episodes converted at 2 passes = 5 * 2 = 10 passes total

takes a long ... long time

B) it is the best way for fragmented movies, but less effective with episodes due to the limitations of : same bitrate..same samplerate...etc...

correct me if I'm wrong

MrC

26th September 2007, 16:52

Batch to me means adding 5 separate movies to 5 separate discs. You want to author a full disc, surely with a menu for navigation which AVStoDVD won't do. Theres lots of other tools on this forum alone which will do that.

Yes you hit the point: batch encoding (at least for AVStoDVD - click "Jobs List" on the toolbar) means a series of separated jobs to be done one after one.

:)

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MrC

28th September 2007, 13:50

AVStoDVD release 1.1.2 (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340) is available.

Change log:

- Some bugs fixed
- Added AviSynth Crop filter management
- Added AviSynth Tweak filter management
- Added Static Preview (experimental) in AVS Script Window
- Removed "Deinterlace" option in AVS Script Window. Everyone can choose and insert manually their preferred deintelacing filter.
- Added release number in ini file and startup check
- Added "Scene Detection" also to QuEnc encoding ("Very High" and "High" Quality profiles)
- Tested on Vista: OK

As usual, comments and suggestions are welcome.

:)

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MrC

15th October 2007, 20:32

Keeping update. Hoping someone is still interested. :)
AVStoDVD release 1.1.3 (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340) is available.

Change log:

- Some bugs fixed
- MediaInfo updated to 0.7.5.3
- Added support to multi core CPU (max 4) by using MultiCoreEnc.exe (available only to QuEnc)
- Added "Settings/System Preference" tab
- Added "DefaultEncodingQuality", "DefaultVideoMaxBitRate", "DefaultAudioBitRate" preferences in AVStoDVD.ini
- Added AviSynth Normalize() audio function in AVS Script
- Revised encoder selection criteria (1): HCenc and CCE SP can be used only for "Very High Quality" encoding
- Revised encoder selection criteria (2): QuEnc is automatically used when choosing "High Quality" or "Standard Quality" encoding
- Revised Audio Time length detection thru MediaInfo

As usual, comments and suggestions are welcome.

:)

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Dkruskie

16th October 2007, 05:57

Thanks for the update MrC

DarkNite

16th October 2007, 10:26

Yay for multicore support!

MrC

16th October 2007, 11:01

Yay for multicore support!

Yes, thanks to Mr_Odwin's small&smart utility "MultiCoreEnc.exe"

:)

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DarkNite

17th October 2007, 10:35

In my first test the encoding took far longer than I thought it should with such a simple script and QuEnc. So I opened the log file and saw this:

<10/16/2007 10:43:43 PM>
WARNING: Cannot find 'C:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\Plugins\MultiCoreEnc.exe'. MultiThread disabled.

I looked in the plugins folder and found this:

MultiCoreEnc_.exe

Once I had renamed the file it worked as expected.

MysticE

17th October 2007, 18:52

- Added "Settings/System Preference" tab
- Added "DefaultEncodingQuality", "DefaultVideoMaxBitRate", "DefaultAudioBitRate" preferences in AVStoDVD.ini
- Added AviSynth Normalize() audio function in AVS Script
Nice. Thanks.

MrC

18th October 2007, 08:02

MysticE

20th October 2007, 21:56

I'm finding 1.1.3 to be a bit confusing. I was hoping it would remember some of my settings, vid bitrate and Muxed MPEG2 Streams output (it does remember the audio bitrate). It also took me a while to figure out why HCenc wasn't being used even though I picked it in settings, although the ability to quickly change to a quicker (with QUenc) encode from the main page has it's uses. And for some reason the preview does not switch to 16:9 (it used to) when WS is chosen.

MrC

21st October 2007, 11:22

I'm finding 1.1.3 to be a bit confusing.

Very sorry: my purpose was to make GUI more friendly... :(

I was hoping it would remember some of my settings, vid bitrate and Muxed MPEG2 Streams output (it does remember the audio bitrate)

As it is said in the History file, "Quality profile", "Max video bitrate" and "audio bitrate" are remembered. Not Avg video bitrate because it depends from input streams and DVD size choosen.

It also took me a while to figure out why HCenc wasn't being used even though I picked it in settings, although the ability to quickly change to a quicker (with QUenc) encode from the main page has it's uses.

Yes, by choosing "Standard Quality" or "High Quality" profile, QuEnc is automatically used (1-pass); instead by choosing "Very High Quality" profile, the proper encoder specified in the Settings Window is used (QuEnc or HCenc or CCE SP, 2-passes). I find this change more intuitive and quick to setup project. Don't you?

However in the next release I'm planning to stop CCE SP support (is anyone still using it in AVStoDVD?), to include HCenc in the installer package and to use HCenc as unique "Very High Quality" encoder. What do you think?

And for some reason the preview does not switch to 16:9 (it used to) when WS is chosen.

I will fix it in the next release.

:)

Bye

bionic

21st October 2007, 13:00

Havent tested much, but if theres no video source file loaded
and you hit the preview in the avisynth script window, avs2dvd throws an runtime error 53 with description file not found Path:\preview000000.jpg and then exits.
Which is of course natural since theres nothing to preview, and why would anyone try to preview nothing, but i thought id mention it anyway for coding completeness :)

MrC

21st October 2007, 14:04

MrC

23rd October 2007, 08:22

... Muxed MPEG2 Streams output ...

@MysticE

Since the next release, I will replace DVDAuthor with MuxMan/BatchMux. That means multiplexing m2v+ac3 step is no more necessary. Will removing "Muxed MPEG2 Stream" choice cause you any troubles or may I do it?

:)

Bye

Sir Didymus

23rd October 2007, 20:53

Cool...

I am very happy you feel BatchMux is suitable for the usage in AVStoDVD...

I planned to ask for such feature in the future, but you have been faster... :)

Please feel free to get in touch with me (in the public forum, the Italian one, or this one, or via PM) for any contribution or information I can provide on the matter...

In the meanwhile, may I ask to you to evaluate the possibility to keep BOTH authoring engines available for the users ?

I can easily provide good (objective) reasons for adopting MuxMan insted of Mplex/DvdAuth, however sometimes there are conditions where some glitches - more or less severe - in the input assets lead to fail the authoring job.

In these (rares... :rolleyes: ) circumstances the availability af a valid authoring alternative can be useful, IMHO...

Cheers,
SD

DarkNite

27th October 2007, 08:42

I actually use CCE and 2-pass VBR when I feel the bitrate would be a little low for my liking. It results in higher quality, and since I paid for CCE why not have the option to use it?

MrC

27th October 2007, 14:41

I actually use CCE and 2-pass VBR when I feel the bitrate would be a little low for my liking. It results in higher quality, and since I paid for CCE why not have the option to use it?

Have you made any comparison between HCenc and CCE video quality? You will be very surprised...

:cool:

Bye

MysticE

28th October 2007, 10:41

@MysticE

Since the next release, I will replace DVDAuthor with MuxMan/BatchMux. That means multiplexing m2v+ac3 step is no more necessary. Will removing "Muxed MPEG2 Stream" choice cause you any troubles or may I do it?

:)

Bye
Actually Muxed MPEG2 Stream is the Output choice I always use for the files I convert, but I guess I can simply rename the resultant VOB or continue to use 1.1.1.

MrC

28th October 2007, 15:03

Actually Muxed MPEG2 Stream is the Output choice I always use for the files I convert, but I guess I can simply rename the resultant VOB or continue to use 1.1.1.

If I may ask: what is the purpose to have one .mpg file instead of two .m2v+.ac3 files? I mean, if you play them with MPC, it will automatically append the audio; if you feed them to a DVD authoring program, you should be able to feed both video and audio.... so, why having one .mpg file only?

:confused::)

Bye

MrC

17th November 2007, 15:18

AVStoDVD release 1.2.0 (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340) is available.

Change log:

- Sobstituted DVDAuthor package with MuxMan/BatchMux for authoring purpose
- HCenc is now the default "Very High Quality" encoder (included in installer)
- HCenc updated to 0.22
- QuEnc is the default "High and Standard Quality" encoder
- DGPulldown is now always used to upsize fps
- Removed support to CCE SP
- Removed "Muxed MPEG2 Stream" output
- Removed support to txt-based subs and added support to Scenartist/IfoEdit compatible subs.
- Revised "DC Precision" calculation routine
- Revised progress bar management in Progress Status Window
- Updtated Shutdown function: now it works from Win95 to Vista
- Added possibility to select Burning Drives not identified as "capable" to burn DVD
- Added check on Output Folder filesystem to prevent overcoming 4 GB limit
- Added Software Info (required software check) in Settings/System Window
- Moved HCenc Quant Matrix combobox to Settings Window

As usual, comments and suggestions are welcome. There are quite a lot of changes... bugs are for sure waiting to be discovered... ;)

:)

Bye

Dkruskie

18th November 2007, 03:25

Thanks for the update MrC

MrC

18th November 2007, 20:39

Thanks for the update MrC

Everything's working? Any comments?

:)

Bye

buzzqw

18th November 2007, 22:13

not my comment, but look at http://www.videohelp.com/tools/AVStoDVD , the most recent user seems have some problem

BHH

rendez2k

18th November 2007, 22:36

I've got an issue too:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i37/rendez2k/AVS_error.jpg

Clicked OK and left encoding going and DVD creation fails at the end.

MrC

19th November 2007, 08:30

not my comment, but look at http://www.videohelp.com/tools/AVStoDVD , the most recent user seems have some problem

BHH

That's the reason of my question... ;)

I've got an issue too:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i37/rendez2k/AVS_error.jpg

Clicked OK and left encoding going and DVD creation fails at the end.

Could you please post/email me the log file? Have you tried with HCenc? Same problem?

Thanks for the feedback.

:)

Bye

G_M_C

19th November 2007, 09:43

Removed support to CCE SP

:(

Why ? I use it, and on my dual-core system i get the best results/speed with it (and i've got lots of custom matrices to use with it).

:confused:

rendez2k

19th November 2007, 10:58

Could you please post/email me the log file? Have you tried with HCenc? Same problem?

Just testing HC now with the same source but I got no initial AviSynth error.... Heres the log from the first encode. Authoring failed.

<19/11/2007 07:50:15>
JOB START
<>

<19/11/2007 07:50:15>
JOB SETTINGS
Source Video file: D:\Temp\CONTROL_DVDS.avi
Source Audio file: D:\Temp\CONTROL_DVDS.avi
MPEG2 Video Encoder: QuEnc
MPEG2 Encoding Options: High Quality (Normal Encoding Speed)
MPEG2 Advanced Options: Auto GOPs - Progressive
DVD Video Format: PAL
DVD Video Aspect Ratio: 16:9
DVD Video BitRate: 4706 (4706) kbps
DVD Audio Format: AC3
DVD Audio BitRate: 192 kbps
DVD Audio Language: EN - English
DVD Chapters Interval: 5 min
DVD Label: CONTROL_DVDS
Delete temp process files: Yes
Save Log file: Yes
Output Folder: D:\Temp\CONTROL_TEST
DVD Size: 4200 MB
DVD Output Setup: ISO UDF Image
<>

<19/11/2007 07:50:15>
SOURCE FILES
Video: D:\Temp\CONTROL_DVDS.avi
Info: AVI (XviD) - 1456 kbps - 640x352 - 16:9 - 25 fps - PPF - 1:57:01 hours - 175538 frames
Audio: D:\Temp\CONTROL_DVDS.avi
Info: AVI (AC3) - 192 kbps - CBR - 48000Hz - 2ch - 1:57:00 hours
Subs:
<>

<19/11/2007 07:50:15>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Video = DirectShowSource("D:\Temp\CONTROL_DVDS.avi", convertfps=true, audio=false)
Audio = DirectShowSource("D:\Temp\CONTROL_DVDS.avi", video=false).Normalize()
AudioDub(Video, Audio)
ConvertToYV12
AddBorders(0,4,0,4)
Lanczos4Resize(720,576)

<>

<19/11/2007 07:50:15>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
QuEnc Parameters: -i "C:\DOCUME~1\ROBINE~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\CONTROL_DVDS_AVStoDVD.avs" -o "D:\Temp\CONTROL_TEST\CONTROL_DVDS_AVStoDVD.m2v" -b 4706 -maxbitrate 4706 -1 -hq -novbr -scene -aspectratio 16:9 -nointerlaced -mpeg2mux noaudio -dc 9 -priority 5 -auto -close
<>

<19/11/2007 09:14:15>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: D:\Temp\CONTROL_TEST\CONTROL_DVDS_AVStoDVD.m2v (2065351294 Byte)
<>

<19/11/2007 09:14:15>
START AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
QuEnc (Audio) Parameters: -i "C:\DOCUME~1\ROBINE~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\CONTROL_DVDS_AVStoDVD.avs" -o "D:\Temp\CONTROL_TEST\CONTROL_DVDS_AVStoDVD.ac3" -priority 5 -1 -nohq -novbr -mpeg2mux novideo -audiocodec AC3 -audiobitrate 192 -auto -close
<>

<19/11/2007 09:26:39>
END AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: D:\Temp\CONTROL_TEST\CONTROL_DVDS_AVStoDVD.ac3 (168516096 Byte)
<>

<19/11/2007 09:26:39>
START DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
BatchMux Parameters: -d "D:\Temp\CONTROL_TEST\CONTROL_DVDS_AVStoDVD\VIDEO_TS" -mxp "C:\DOCUME~1\ROBINE~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\CONTROL_DVDS_AVStoDVD.mxp" -l "C:\DOCUME~1\ROBINE~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\CONTROL_DVDS_AVStoDVD.mxp.log" -muxman "C:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\MuxMan" -v "D:\Temp\CONTROL_TEST\CONTROL_DVDS_AVStoDVD.m2v" -vidmode LB -a1 "D:\Temp\CONTROL_TEST\CONTROL_DVDS_AVStoDVD.ac3" -a1lang en -a1ext 0 -celltc "C:\DOCUME~1\ROBINE~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\CONTROL_DVDS_AVStoDVD.mxp.txt"
<>

<19/11/2007 09:55:59>
JOB COMPLETED.
<>

MrC

19th November 2007, 12:39

@rendez2k

Thanks for the log file.
One question: have you installed on your system .NET Framework? The issue seems to come from MultiCoreEnc (wrapping QuEnc) which is written in VB NET.... :(

@G_M_C

Yes CCE SP support ended. As said before, I would push AVStoDVD users to switch to HCenc for very high quality encoding. Give a try to HCenc, you will be surprised by speed and quality. Or stay with AVStoDVD 1.1.3. ;)

:)

Bye

rendez2k

19th November 2007, 12:43

Pretty sure I have .NET Framework 2 or 3

MrC

19th November 2007, 14:07

Pretty sure I have .NET Framework 2 or 3

Ok, let's move ahead, if you will. :)

1. What Avisynth release do you have installed?

2. Did you have same error using release 1.1.3 (with multicore enabled - remember to rename file \AVStoDVD\Plugins\MultiCoreEnc_.exe to \AVStoDVD\Plugins\MultiCoreEnc.exe)?

3. Release 1.2.0: open AVS Script Window, uncheck "Automatic Script", and delete ".Normalize()" from end of line 2. Start encoding.

Thanks for the debug.

:)

Bye

Filbert

19th November 2007, 15:29

I've got probs with 120 too. After installation it refuses to start with an (in my case german) error message (rough translation): "Run-time Error 481: Invalid picture".
Previous versions worked ok, the error appears on 3 different PCs.

Thanks in advance, Filbert

[Edit] Just found out that windows wants to replace some files in the Windows directory with the ones from the original XP-CD (after installation of AVS120). Then it works ok. So some ".dll" or other files you install there seem to be incompatible with some XP installations.

rendez2k

19th November 2007, 15:48

MrC

19th November 2007, 21:39

I[Edit] Just found out that windows wants to replace some files in the Windows directory with the ones from the original XP-CD (after installation of AVS120). Then it works ok. So some ".dll" or other files you install there seem to be incompatible with some XP installations.

Could be 2 old VB6 ActiveX (OCX). In the next release I will add the "Overwrite only if newer" check to the installer package for those files.

In the meanwhile I have removed 1.2.0 installer package from SourceForge page. There is still the No_Install package available for testing. Very, very sorry...

Bye

MrC

30th November 2007, 10:41

I've got an issue too:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i37/rendez2k/AVS_error.jpg

Clicked OK and left encoding going and DVD creation fails at the end.

Back on the topic. Some more troubleshooting ;)

Did you try changing AVS Source method? Go to Settings/Encoding/AVS Source Filter and select "AVISource".

Same error?

Another (mayve silly) question: do you have DirectX 9 installed?

:wink:

Bye

rendez2k

30th November 2007, 10:45

Back on the topic. Some more troubleshooting ;)

Did you try changing AVS Source method? Go to Settings/Encoding/AVS Source Filter and select "AVISource".

Same error?

Another (mayve silly) question: do you have DirectX 9 installed?

:wink:

Bye

Sorry, meant to do some testing but not had much time! I do have DirectX 9.0c and AviSynth 2.5.7 but I need to check the other things you asked for. I will let you know ASAP!

rendez2k

30th November 2007, 10:55

Just downloaded the 1.20 zip file and extracted to c:\program files etc and I get a mediainfo.dll not found?

MrC

30th November 2007, 10:57

[Edit] Just found out that windows wants to replace some files in the Windows directory with the ones from the original XP-CD (after installation of AVS120). Then it works ok. So some ".dll" or other files you install there seem to be incompatible with some XP installations.

Found the problem :angry:

Since release 1.2.0 I have created the installer on Vista (before I had XP), using CreateInstallFree as usual. That software picks up some DLLs (VB6 runtime libraries) from my Windows\System32 dir, like comcat.dll which Vista version is 6.0.6000.16386 and puts them into the installer package.

When the installer goes on a XP system with Windows Defender, it overwrites current comcat.dll (XP version 5.0.2600.1). Then Windows Defender wakes up, does not want new version (6.0.6000.16386) and restore old one.

I really hate M$

:mad::mad::mad:

Bye

MrC

30th November 2007, 11:05

Just downloaded the 1.20 zip file and extracted to c:\program files etc and I get a mediainfo.dll not found?

From file ReadMe_NoInstall.txt

AVStoDVD "NoInstall" package notes
----------------------------------

Be sure to have the following software installed on your system:

- AviSynth 2.5.7
- Visual Basic 6.0 Runtime Pack
- Mediainfo.dll 0.7.5.3 in WINDOWS/SYSTEM32 folder

You have to download mediainfo.dll (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=86862&package_id=90614) and put it into Windows\System32

;)

Bye

krisso

30th November 2007, 11:30

First of all, I would like to say that this software is wonderful. From some random movie conversions at maximum quality (2 passes), the output looks superb. However, I came across two problems:

1. I've tried adding subtitles (using the supported formats) to the converted AVI to DVD, but when playing it back on my DVD player or computer no subtitles show. The option to enable English subtitles is available during playback though.

2. Converted movies with AC3 audio do not have any audio. I'm just curious, but why does it request an AC3 filter/codec if we're keeping the AC3 audio from the source AVI file?

Thanks again for this great software.

MrC

30th November 2007, 12:06

First of all, I would like to say that this software is wonderful. From some random movie conversions at maximum quality (2 passes), the output looks superb

Thanks! ;)

1. I've tried adding subtitles (using the supported formats) to the converted AVI to DVD, but when playing it back on my DVD player or computer no subtitles show. The option to enable English subtitles is available during playback though.

What AVStoDVD release and what subs format are you using? Release 1.1.3 supports txt-based subs and 1.2.0 support graphical subs.

2. Converted movies with AC3 audio do not have any audio. I'm just curious, but why does it request an AC3 filter/codec if we're keeping the AC3 audio from the source AVI file?.

When you feed AVStoDVD with a AC3 movie, the program detects if AC3 stream is DVD-compliant. If yes, you are prompted to keep that stream. If not, AVStoDVD forces audio recompression and outputs a warning to correctly configure the AC3 filter.

;)

Bye

rendez2k

30th November 2007, 13:08

From file ReadMe_NoInstall.txt

You have to download mediainfo.dll (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=86862&package_id=90614) and put it into Windows\System32

;)

Bye

Many thanks - I missed that! All is working and I'm running some tests now. Can subs be forced on or even 'embedded' into the video?

MrC

30th November 2007, 13:50

AVStoDVD support only muxed subs (thru dvdauthor/txt-based until 1.1.3 and MuxMan/graphical since 1.2.0).

For burnt-in subs, you could use AviSynth filter VSFilter.dll that support both txt and graphical based subs: modify AVS script adding:

TextSub("C:\subs.srt") ### txt based
or
VobSub("C:\subs.sup") ### graphical based

;)

Bye

rendez2k

30th November 2007, 16:09

1. I've tried adding subtitles (using the supported formats) to the converted AVI to DVD, but when playing it back on my DVD player or computer no subtitles show. The option to enable English subtitles is available during playback though.

Just had this issue too. Converted subtitle file from an srt to a sst using Subtitle Workshop and they don't show in PowerDVD or Zoom Player. English option is also present. Any ideas?

blaze

30th November 2007, 18:52

Hi, does this software support command line input?

rendez2k

30th November 2007, 20:59

OK, the original errors I was getting using QuEnc only occur when I set process priority to 2 (so 2 QuEncs are running). When set to 1 the encode completes fine.

Also, the advise for hard coding the subs worked great - maybe this could be included as a feature?

Also, could a size entered under custom be made to be the default setting?

krisso

30th November 2007, 21:15

What AVStoDVD release and what subs format are you using? Release 1.1.3 supports txt-based subs and 1.2.0 support graphical subs.

I'm using 1.2.0 with both subtitle formats. I took a SRT and converted it to SST and SUP files. I've converted the movie once for each converted sub format, but they still don't show during playback

When you feed AVStoDVD with a AC3 movie, the program detects if AC3 stream is DVD-compliant. If yes, you are prompted to keep that stream. If not, AVStoDVD forces audio recompression and outputs a warning to correctly configure the AC3 filter.

I've tried it with a AC3 compliant movie where i had to select yes to keep the AC3 audio. However, the final DVD still had no sound.

MrC

1st December 2007, 11:23

Hi, does this software support command line input?

The only CLI supported is a AVStoDVD project file (.a2d). Example:

C:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\AVStoDVD.exe "D:\Movies\My Project.a2d"

;)

Bye

MrC

1st December 2007, 11:27

OK, the original errors I was getting using QuEnc only occur when I set process priority to 2 (so 2 QuEncs are running). When set to 1 the encode completes fine.

On some system there is an issue with MultiCoreEnc I really cannot understand. Since next release I will remove MultiCoreEnc for higher reliability.

Also, the advise for hard coding the subs worked great - maybe this could be included as a feature?

Also, could a size entered under custom be made to be the default setting?

I will put them in my "ToDo" list

;)

Bye

rendez2k

1st December 2007, 11:34

On some system there is an issue with MultiCoreEnc I really cannot understand. Since next release I will remove MultiCoreEnc for higher reliability.
Bye

With HC 0.22 supporting in-built multi-processor there seams to be less and less need for QuEnc (for me anyway!)

MrC

1st December 2007, 11:36

I'm using 1.2.0 with both subtitle formats. I took a SRT and converted it to SST and SUP files. I've converted the movie once for each converted sub format, but they still don't show during playback

What software player are you using? With Media Player Classic (MPC) I have never had any issue.... Using MPC be sure to go to "Navigate"/"Subtitle Language"/"Enabled".

Another try: convert your video and audio using "Elementary MPEG2 Streams". You will have 2 files (.m2v and .ac3). Open MuxMan and load .m2v .ac3 .sup. Author DVD and see if problems is still present. If yes, it is a MuxMan fault.... if not, let me know.

I've tried it with a AC3 compliant movie where i had to select yes to keep the AC3 audio. However, the final DVD still had no sound.

No sound on the PC (maybe you have to install a AC3 codec) or no sound on the table DVD player?

;)

Bye

MrC

1st December 2007, 11:39

With HC 0.22 supporting in-built multi-processor there seams to be less and less need for QuEnc (for me anyway!)

Yes, you are right, at least for video encoding. However QuEnc is still a good and simple AC3 audio encoder.

;)

Bye

MrC

1st December 2007, 15:30

Just for Doom9 braves...

AVStoDVD 1.2.1 beta Installer (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7TWJR6H4)

Mainly bugfixing and removed MultiCoreEnc

;)

Bye

blaze

2nd December 2007, 10:14

The only CLI supported is a AVStoDVD project file (.a2d). Example:

C:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\AVStoDVD.exe "D:\Movies\My Project.a2d"

;)

Bye

is this possible to automate avs2dvd so that it starts automatically when the a2d file is loaded this way?

MrC

3rd December 2007, 10:50

is this possible to automate avs2dvd so that it starts automatically when the a2d file is loaded this way?

Something like:

C:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\AVStoDVD.exe "D:\Movies\My Project.a2d" -start

Yes, it is

Batch launching a batch launcher... very very tautologic...

;)

Bye

MrC

8th December 2007, 14:46

AVStoDVD release 1.2.1 (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340) is available.

Change log:

- Lots of minor bugs fixed
- MediaInfo updated to 0.7.5.5
- Added required software presence check during start-up
- Removed MultiCoreEnc as QuEnc multithread wrapper because of several "Access Violation" error reports

As usual, comments and suggestions are welcome.

:)

Bye

buzzqw

8th December 2007, 15:28

thanks for the update!
btw an italian version ??? or possibility to translate string (if you don't know italian ;) )

BHH

MrC

9th December 2007, 15:00

thanks for the update!
btw an italian version ??? or possibility to translate string (if you don't know italian ;) )

BHH

My will is to add the possibility to choose customizable skins and languages (DVDShrink-like)... the only point is when...

However AVStoDVD is opensource and VB6 code is quite modular: any contribute is welcome!

;)

Bye

buzzqw

9th December 2007, 16:05

seems there is some problem downloading the noinstall version

every servers fails..

have you got some problem uploading it ?

BHH

MrC

9th December 2007, 17:32

SourceForge seems to be a little overloaded this afternoon.

Try Bologna server direct link:

http://garr.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/avstodvd/AVStoDVD_121_NoInstall.7z

Italians do it better...

;)

Bye

buzzqw

9th December 2007, 17:44

sorry pal.. but i got no download even from the city at 120km from here ;)

(i have alice .. don't know if could be a problem)

i will wait tomorrow!

thanks anyway

BHH

krisso

17th December 2007, 07:36

Chiming in again regarding my subtitle issues. I've only had luck converting an AVI accompanied with SUP subtitles. The issue however is that the subtitles are only partially shown. Say the subtitle is suppose to show something like:

Today is the day that
we will party with AVStoDVD

I will only see the "Today is the day that" part, but only a small portion of the top of each letter. Think cutting the letters in half and only seeing the top half. That is what I'm getting.

Any suggestions on what might be the problem. Also, any chance to support SRT subtitles in the future?

P.S. I'm using the latest AVStoDVD 1.2.1

MrC

17th December 2007, 11:59

@krisso

Could you please send me (avstodvd@gmail.com) the SUP file you are using?

If you want to directly use SRT subs, download AVStoDVD 1.1.3 which is the last supporting txt based subs.

:)

Bye

chaparral

28th January 2008, 21:34

MrC

29th January 2008, 13:59

Hi MrC, don´t know if you remember me(long time,no see...), anyway, i´ve passed here just to see what progress made avstodvd and now it seems that i'm a bit out of it...
For example, i´ve downloaded last version and i tried with a sample and putted one srt subtitle and when the job became done couldn´t see any subtitles in the movie sample...
Doesn´t avstdvd recognize srt subtitles anymore?
Best regards

No problem! I have hard time in continuing AVStoDVD development too... :)

About subtitles: since release 1.2.0 I have removed SRT support, because I have switched from DVDAuthor to MuxMan as authoring cli sw, and MuxMan support only Scenarist Sub Script (*.sst) and IfoEdit Subpicture File (*.sup).

If you have a txt-based subtitle (like SRT format), you have to:
- convert to SUP format (i.e. using SubtitleCreator)
or
- hard encode your SRT using AviSynth's TextSub
or
- go back to AVStoDVD 1.1.3 which is last release supporting txt based subs.

:)

Bye

chaparral

30th January 2008, 00:09

Thanks for your reply for my question, Mrc...
Now i have a new one, doesn´t avstodvd allow us to add 2 avi files for a conversion at same time? Does we have to previous join them because your program only converts one file?

MrC

30th January 2008, 09:32

doesn´t avstodvd allow us to add 2 avi files for a conversion at same time? Does we have to previous join them because your program only converts one file?

AVStoDVD converts only one file at a time. And only one file can go into a DVD structure.

However you can automate the process of converting more "single" files by using the Jobs List feature.

:)

Bye

MrC

9th February 2008, 09:53

AVStoDVD release 1.2.2 (https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340) is available.

Change log:

- Minor bugs fixed
- Added "Half-D1" (352x576 PAL, 352x480 NTSC) to Video Format settings
- Added possibility to change Media Player used to preview output
- Added check on output m2v file FPS before starting DGPulldown
- Added check on output filename. If it exists, a "_1" extension is added
- Added check on DVD disc presence in drive before burning
- Added "DefaultCustomSize" preference in AVStoDVD.ini
- MediaInfo.dll is now required only in AVStoDVD folder (no need to copy it in Windows\System32)
- MediaInfo updated to 0.7.5.6
- QuEnc updated to 0.75Alpha
- HCenc is now feeded by .ini file and not by full command line instructions.
- Removed mscomct2.ocx ActiveX Control from installer package
- CreateInstall Free replaced by NSIS as installer creating software

As usual, comments and suggestions are welcome.

:)

Bye

11th February 2008, 05:12

First of all thanks for the software, this is the first time I have used it, but I'm having exactly the same problem as some other users namely,I've tried adding subtitles to the converted AVI to DVD, but when playing it back on my DVD player or computer no subtitles show. The option to enable English subtitles is available during playback but they do not show when selected. I used Subtitle Workshop to convert an srt file to sst. Using the latest release of AVStoDVD 1.2.2.

MrC

11th February 2008, 10:40

MrC

11th February 2008, 11:52

@wg & other user with problems with subs

Very important question: are you sure to have setup correctly video size in Subtitle Creator? Otherwise subs could go outside video frame....

a) Select "Formatting" and then "Video Format". Choose PAL or NTSC depending on your output DVD format

b) Select "Profile" and "Apply Profile". Choose your favorite profile. Be sure to choose 16:9 wide if your video frame widescreen

:)

Bye

rendez2k

14th February 2008, 09:44

Just to report, tested 1.2.2 on my new quad core and everything completed perfectly in just over 40mins with HCEnc.

Any chance that HCEnc could be set to be used with the other profiles? I prefer it over QuEnc.

Filbert

14th February 2008, 09:48

MrC

14th February 2008, 13:42

Just to report, tested 1.2.2 on my new quad core and everything completed perfectly in just over 40mins with HCEnc.

Glad to hear that! :)

Any chance that HCEnc could be set to be used with the other profiles? I prefer it over QuEnc.

Yes, I am working on CQ prediction to let HCenc encode with 1-pass VBR (aka OPV).

:cool:

Bye

MrC

14th February 2008, 13:53

Hi,

since installing version 122 I get an AVStoDVD error "Run-time error '5' Invalid procedure call or argument". This doesn't appear the first time AVStoDVD is run, but after the second time.

I tested it on various PC, running XP Professional (german version). It appears on systems I had AVStoDVD running before and on fresh systems. Though, on some PC the error is in english (I think the fresh system), on the others it's in german.

Thanks for any help, Filbert

Yes, I know: there is a very silly bug in AVStoDVD.ini reading procedure... :o

You can avoid the error message following these steps:
- delete AVStoDVD.ini file
- run AVStoDVD
- click on "Settings" and choose your favourite settings (if you will)
- check "Save current settings as default"
- click "OK"

Release 1.2.3 will be out ASAP to fix that bug.

:)

Bye

MrC

14th February 2008, 22:50

AVStoDVD release 1.2.3 (https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340) is available.

Change log:

- Bugs fixing
- MediaInfo updated to 0.7.5.9

As usual, comments and suggestions are welcome.

:)

Bye

Numer0bis

15th February 2008, 02:03

thank you very much for this great programm. I hate doing all the maths for the correct avi synth resizing, I've read the guides on doom9 for doing the correct resizing for dvd and managed to get it right after 10 minutes. Your program created the same avisynthscript in about 3 sec ;-).

17th February 2008, 10:36

MrC

17th February 2008, 17:33

I'm using the no-install version of AVStoDVD 1.2.3, where is subtitle creator? it is not in the folder, & the software requirements do not mention it.

Thanks in advance.

That's because I have not included Subtitle Creator in the AVStoDVD distribution package (both the installer and the "NoInstall").

Subtitle Creator basically can edit txt-based subs (like .srt) and convert them to bitmap-based subs (like .sup).

If you have a .srt subs file, since AVStoDVD cannot handle directly .srt subs, you can open it with (for example) Subtitle Creator, edit it by your will and then save it as a .sup then feed .sup into AVStoDVD. Be careful to choose correct Video Format (NTSC or PAL) and Aspect Ratio (4:3 or 16:9).

By the way, I have got it: I will put .srt subs support in my "ToDo" list....

:)

Bye

19th February 2008, 00:30

2nd March 2008, 16:08

Just tried the batch encode option for the first time(2 Movies), it worked like a charm, thanks again MrC for this great bit of software.

MrC

3rd March 2008, 13:53

thanks again MrC for this great bit of software.

You're welcome. And any suggestions are welcomed too.

;)

Bye

Dkruskie

3rd March 2008, 19:40

Works great for me too :)..too bad i doesnt work for me in ubuntu, but oh well cant have it all.

MrC

4th March 2008, 13:41

Works great for me too :)..too bad i doesnt work for me in ubuntu, but oh well cant have it all.

AVStoDVD is open source... if you want to join the project and compile a Linux build....

;)

Bye

Dkruskie

4th March 2008, 15:46

AVStoDVD is open source... if you want to join the project and compile a Linux build....

;)

Bye

I wouldn't even know where to begin, since I know very little of programming and such.

8th March 2008, 21:43

Did another batch encode(2 movies), this time I selected the option to turn off the pc when finished. What actually happened was it turned the pc off when it had completed the first movie, it didn't start the second encode. Is this a possible bug?

Thanks in advance.

Chelu

9th March 2008, 12:36

MrC

9th March 2008, 14:57

MrC

9th March 2008, 15:00

Using the whole AVS2DVD method, is there any way to create a .mpeg program stream, instead of only elementary streams. eventually I would take my conversions and put them onto DVD, but in the meanwhile would there be a way to holdoff on the VIDEO_TS output, and get some .mpeg files. I know TMPGENC could get the job done with the elementary streams, outside of the AVS2DVD process though, but is there a freeware program that could do the same thing with good results? So far I've seen Imago and MPlex mentioned, but with shaky reviews. Or maybe even a similar program that could join .vobs and export to dvd-ready .mpg.

ImagoMPEG-Muxer (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/ImagoMPEG-Muxer) is a very good piece of software. It supports command line parameters as well, so you can automate the process using a batch file or a simple script.

I'm doing a whole bunch of DV tapes (.avi) to DVD, but I would like to put them through some video editing and stuff before I finally output to a DVD disc, which is why .mpeg's would be highly preferred.

Usually video editing softwares let you input elementary streams and/or DVD structure (VIDEO_TS folder). So why bother muxing m2v and ac3?

:)

Bye

14th March 2008, 05:23

I can't get the preview to work, even changed the settings to use Media player classic or VLC player, still no joy. I have ffdshow latest stable release installed. I have tried various files makes no difference whether subtitles are used or not. I'm using AVStoDVD 1.2.3 no install.
This is the message I get when trying to use the default setting
'Couldn't locate decompressor for format 'YV12' (unknown).
VirtualDub requires a Video for Windows (VFW) compatible codec to decompress video. DirectShow codecs, such as those used by Windows Media Player, are not suitable. Only 'Direct stream copy' is available for this video'.

This is the message I get when trying to use media player classic
'J:\AVStoDVD-Temp\AviSynthP.avs::Avisynth video #1

Media Type 0:
--------------------------
Video: YV12 720x406 23.98fps

AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Video {73646976-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: MEDIASUBTYPE_YV12 {32315659-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
formattype: FORMAT_VideoInfo {05589F80-C356-11CE-BF01-00AA0055595A}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 438480
cbFormat: 88

VIDEOINFOHEADER:
rcSource: (0,0)-(0,0)
rcTarget: (0,0)-(0,0)
dwBitRate: 0
dwBitErrorRate: 0
AvgTimePerFrame: 417083

BITMAPINFOHEADER:
biSize: 40
biWidth: 720
biHeight: 406
biPlanes: 1
biBitCount: 12
biCompression: YV12
biSizeImage: 438480
biXPelsPerMeter: 0
biYPelsPerMeter: 0
biClrUsed: 0
biClrImportant: 0

pbFormat:
0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 3b 5d 06 00 00 00 00 00 ........;]......
0030: 28 00 00 00 d0 02 00 00 96 01 00 00 01 00 0c 00 (...Ð...–.......
0040: 59 56 31 32 d0 b0 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 YV12Ð°..........
0050: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ' ........

The audio will play in Media player classic, but no video preview.

Any advice much appreciated.

MrC

14th March 2008, 13:44

@wg

Try opening ffdshow "Video Decoder Configuration" and "VFW Configuration", select "Supported Codecs" and make sure that "Raw video" is set to "all supported"

Let me know

:)

Bye

17th March 2008, 06:20

@wg

Try opening ffdshow "Video Decoder Configuration" and "VFW Configuration", select "Supported Codecs" and make sure that "Raw video" is set to "all supported"

Let me know

:)

Bye

Preview now works with Vdub & MPC, but subtitles are not shown or available in the preview, any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

MrC

17th March 2008, 09:17

Preview now works with Vdub & MPC, but subtitles are not shown or available in the preview, any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

As a matter of fact, subtitles cannot be previewed because they are muxed during authoring process and not "hard-encoded". Next AVStoDVD release will allow to choose if subs are muxed or hard-encoded.

:)

Bye

ricardo.santos

17th March 2008, 21:36

Using the whole AVS2DVD method, is there any way to create a .mpeg program stream, instead of only elementary streams. .

that was possible in early avs2dvd versions, dont know why it was removed.....it was a very handy option.

when using avs2dvd in the fastest mode it checks the box "trellis" in Quenc, is that option supposed to be checked? From what i read trellis slows down considerably the conversion with minimal quality gain.

MrC

18th March 2008, 13:47

that was possible in early avs2dvd versions, dont know why it was removed.....it was a very handy option.

MPEG muxed stream was removed since release 1.2.0 because I shifted from dvdauthor to MuxMan, and MuxMan accepts elementary streams. So .mpg creation was not more necessary.
However many user are asking me to re-introduce it. I will think about. :)

when using avs2dvd in the fastest mode it checks the box "trellis" in Quenc, is that option supposed to be checked? From what i read trellis slows down considerably the conversion with minimal quality gain.

Since QuEnc 0.75, "Trellis" check is used to activate multithread encoding and not trellis quantization. It is a DGZ's decision in order to speed up QuEnc multithread development without modifing the GUI... do not blame me...

:)

Bye

dragongodz

22nd March 2008, 03:31

It is a DGZ's decision in order to speed up QuEnc multithread development without modifing the GUI

yes the idea was so people could try and test the threaded change with existing programs easily.

do not blame me

of course.
however maybe a little more information that that change was part of the QuEnc alpha may have saved any confusion and encouraged people to try it. :)

MrC

22nd March 2008, 14:31

however maybe a little more information that that change was part of the QuEnc alpha may have saved any confusion and encouraged people to try it. :)

DGZ, you are clearly right. :)

You know, when I have a new release ready to be uploaded, I do never spend enough time in writing documentation and changes log...

;)

Bye

MrC

11th April 2008, 14:59

A beta release of AVStoDVD 2.0.0 is available to download (http://avstodvd.googlepages.com/home) and test (...only for the brave ;) )

Change log (quite long):

- GUI redesigned
- Added possibility to add more titles to one DVD
- Added log activity window in main form
- Mouse right-click menus enabled in main form
- Added a new more configurable 'Title Edit' form
- New and configurable Video Encoding Profiles setup (see Help for more details)
- Added CQ prediction calculation and 1-pass VBR encoding with HCenc
- Added support to SubRip (srt) text-based subtitles (using "SubtitleCreator", included in AVStoDVD installer package)
- Added possibility to hard-encode subtitles (using "VobSub" AviSynth plugin (VSFilter.dll), included in AVStoDVD installer package)
- Added 'AudioAmplify' shortcut in 'AviSynth Script Edit' window (now in 'Title Edit' form)
- Added split between 'temporary process' and 'AVStoDVD working' files classification
- Added check on m2v output filesize. If bigger than target, added a transcoding step using ReJig
- Added audio AC3 fixing step when AC3 track is demuxed from the original input file (using "AC3Fix", included in AVStoDVD installer package)
- Added prompt to save project when exiting from AVStoDVD
- Added possibility to make PayPal donations
- AVStoDVD settings are now stored in the Windows Registry (removed AVStoDVD.ini configuration file)
- MediaInfo updated to 0.7.6.2
- ImgBurn updated to 2.4.0.0

As usual, comments and suggestions are welcome.

:)

Bye

rendez2k

11th April 2008, 15:02

Thanks Mr C - will be testing when I get home!

Does "Added possibility to add more titles to one DVD" mean that menus have now been added?

MrC

11th April 2008, 15:22

Thanks Mr C - will be testing when I get home!

Does "Added possibility to add more titles to one DVD" mean that menus have now been added?

Unfortunately not. It simply means that more than one title can be authored on a dvd.

:)

Bye

MysticE

12th April 2008, 03:15

- AVStoDVD settings are now stored in the Windows Registry (removed AVStoDVD.ini configuration file)
Why? Do folks really need more hooks in their systems?

MrC

12th April 2008, 08:10

@MsticE

Because registry is simpler to manage that ini files :)
Most popular and well known sw (MPC, QuEnc, AviSynth, ImgBurn, etc.) use this method.

It is only one registry key (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\AVStoDVD) and it will be possibile to remove it using the uninstall procedure that will come with installer package.

:)

Bye

MrC

12th April 2008, 15:27

New build (with installer and sorce code) loaded on SourceForge (https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340&package_id=269494&release_id=591671)

:)

Bye

14th April 2008, 18:36

MrC

15th April 2008, 07:45

Hi MrC,
Using the Noinstall version of your new beta I have converted 2 separate project, Xvid files with srt subs, both encoded using Hcenc 2 pass vbr, both seem fine. What's happened to the jobs list for batch encoding?, I hope you have not permanently removed this feature, as I think the ability to do batch encodes really made AVStoDVD stand out from many others.

Cheers!

Since 2.0.0 beta it is possible to load more than one input file and then select output type (separate streams, one dvd structure, one iso, one burned dvd). I have thought batch encoding would be redundant.

The only output setup not covered now is batch encoding of multiple dvd structures (or iso). Is that setup what you mean?

Let me know and we will manage it somehow.

:)

Bye

15th April 2008, 20:04

The only output setup not covered now is batch encoding of multiple dvd structures (or iso). Is that set-up what you mean?

Let me know and we will manage it somehow.
Bye
__________________
MrC

That's exactly the set-up I mean, the ability to batch-encode separate dvd structures, i.e. one full movie per disc, exactly as you could do with version 1.2.3 using the jobs list. The beauty of this is you can set it to create multiple discs overnight & the next day they are ready to be burned to disc, classic batch encoding.

Cheers!

Adub

15th April 2008, 22:33

Just so you know, ImgBurn is on 2.4.1.0.

MrC

16th April 2008, 12:57

That's exactly the set-up I mean, the ability to batch-encode separate dvd structures, i.e. one full movie per disc, exactly as you could do with version 1.2.3 using the jobs list. The beauty of this is you can set it to create multiple discs overnight & the next day they are ready to be burned to disc, classic batch encoding.
Cheers!

Ok, got it. You do have a really big big hard drive!!! ;)

What about an option button to toggle on if you want to create multiple DVD structures?

:)

Bye

MrC

16th April 2008, 12:58

Just so you know, ImgBurn is on 2.4.1.0.

Thanks, I will update it

:)

Bye

16th April 2008, 18:51

What about an option button to toggle on if you want to create multiple DVD structures?

Sounds good to me, also the option to turn off pc after 'all' jobs completed(There is a bug in 1.2.3 that if you have say 2 jobs in the queue & have turn off pc selected it will do this after the 1st job & won't even start the 2nd job).

Thanks in advance.

MrC

19th April 2008, 14:55

A new beta build of AVStoDVD 2.0.0 is available to download (http://avstodvd.googlepages.com/home) and test.

Change log:

- GUI improved
- ImgBurn updated to 2.4.1.0
- Added built-in Preview form (no more external preview player)
- Added customizable skins

As usual, comments and suggestions are welcome.

@wg
JobList batch encoding is coming back...

:)

Bye

MrC

20th April 2008, 14:45

AVStoDVD Skins available to download (https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340&package_id=272668) on SourceForge:

Right now, only one skin added... Any contributions are welcomed!

;)

Bye

21st April 2008, 17:45

@wg
JobList batch encoding is coming back...

Cheers!

MrC

25th April 2008, 15:25

A new beta build of AVStoDVD 2.0.0 is available to download (http://avstodvd.googlepages.com/home) and test.

Change log:

- Some bugs fixed
- MediaInfo updated to 0.7.6.3
- Batch encoding (Jobs list) has come back

As usual, comments and suggestions are welcome.

:)

Bye

27th April 2008, 08:44

Thanks for the update & the return of batch encoding, will try out soon.

Cheers!

locotus

1st May 2008, 15:08

Just for reporting my beta test:

I just finished my first try to make a single DVD with 3 movies.
Sorry to tell but the final size was way to large the DVD chosen.
For a 4.7 DVD the final resulting size was 6.8GB.

Think about not deleting the m2v and its audio, so user could choose to author manually if as in this case the final output is to big.

Thanks anyway.

MrC

1st May 2008, 18:07

Some questions, locotus

1. 3 movies are usually too much for a dvd. AVStoDVD should have informed you about it by turning red the dvd size bar. Doesn't it?
2. If you do not want to delete temporary process files (m2v, ac3, etc.), click "Settings"/"Misc" and uncheck "Delete temporary process files". Did you do that?
3. Could you post here the log file created by AVStoDVD, which contains a lot of details about your encoding?
4 Are you the dark side of Captain Picard? :)

Btw, I will add a check to authored filesizes before burning them to dvd.

;)

Bye

locotus

1st May 2008, 19:27

Some answers, MrC

1.-I usually get quite good quality in old B&W movies, based mostly on runnig time. This 3 movies were more or less
90 minutes each.
Indeed the program advised me that it will use 4800MB,
but finaly ended in 6.8GB. So I cancelled the job before finishing
the iso file.

2.-I did not make any change in the settings, now I will do it and let you know what happens.

3.-Sorry I deleted the file, and

4.-As Picard I prefer to be the "bald" side.

Thanks for you kindness.

MrC

2nd May 2008, 13:43

2.-I did not make any change in the settings, now I will do it and let you know what happens.

Let's waiting for the results and for the next log file.

:)

Bye

11th May 2008, 16:56

Have done several encodes with the latest beta & all have went perfectly. Also did a batch encode of 2 separate dvd structures, 1 full movie on each, & AVStoDVD turned the pc off after 'both' jobs had completed, brilliant! the bug is no more. Also nice to be able to use srt subs. Thanks again MrC

Cheers!

MrC

12th May 2008, 08:03

Thanks for the feedback, wg.

Within few days, I will release 2.0.0 "final" version.

:)

Bye

rendez2k

13th May 2008, 09:01

Thanks for the feedback, wg.

Within few days, I will release 2.0.0 "final" version.

:)

Bye

Great news! Whats next on the road map after 2.0? Menu support would be a great addition as some of the known favourites such as FAVC appear to have very few (if any) updates these days.

MrC

13th May 2008, 16:16

Great news! Whats next on the road map after 2.0? Menu support would be a great addition as some of the known favourites such as FAVC appear to have very few (if any) updates these days.

Well, let's hope not to have too many bugs to fix along with the "Final" distribution, because menu support is surely on my ToDo toplist this summer. Btw, some deepening about my menu structure knowledge is necessary...

;)

Bye

Sir Didymus

15th May 2008, 20:14

Hi MrC!

When I added the menu support in BatchMux (it is the authoring engine you are using to drive MuxMan in your application, right ?), I spent some care - and some time - in order to implement this feature in a way making possible a "simple" integration into applications like your jewel, AVStoDVD...

So I would like to support the kind request from rendez2k...

However, I agree with you on the fact that the mastering of some fundamental elements on the DVD menus is necessary in order to use properly this feature of BatchMux (but nothing too complicated, I can ensure you)...

In the present time I am quite busy with my job, but this summer (hopefully) I would be glad to offer some hints and technical contributions, if you think it can be useful...

Maybe in Italian, in the doom9.it forum, if you like... or via PM...

:)

Cheers,
SD

MrC

16th May 2008, 07:41

In the present time I am quite busy with my job, but this summer (hopefully) I would be glad to offer some hints and technical contributions, if you think it can be useful...

Hi Sir Didymus!

Thanks a lot for your offer! I am sure your contributions will be very very useful. It will be my must to contact you as soon as I will have some stuff to review or some question to ask.

Let's stay tuned

Ciao

;)

MrC

MrC

18th May 2008, 14:13

AVStoDVD 2.0.0 Final is available to download (http://avstodvd.googlepages.com/home)

Change log (quite long, includes changes from release 1.2.3, most of them have been included in 2.0.0 betas):

- GUI redesigned
- Added possibility to add more titles to one DVD
- Added log activity window in main form
- Mouse right-click menus enabled in main form
- Added built-in Preview window (uses DirectShow ActiveMovie library quartz.dll)
- Added customizable skins
- Added a new more configurable 'Title Edit' form
- Added configurable Video Encoding Profiles setup (see Help for more details)
- Added CQ prediction calculation and 1-pass VBR encoding with HCenc
- Added support to SubRip (srt) text-based subtitles (using "SubtitleCreator", included in AVStoDVD installer package)
- Added possibility to hard-encode subtitles (using "VobSub" AviSynth plugin (VSFilter.dll), included in AVStoDVD installer package)
- Added 'AudioAmplify' shortcut in 'AviSynth Script Edit' window (now in 'Title Edit' form)
- Added split between 'temporary process' and 'AVStoDVD working' files classification
- Added check on m2v output filesize. If bigger than target, added a transcoding step using ReJig
- Added audio AC3 fixing step when AC3 track is demuxed from the original input file (using "AC3Fix", included in AVStoDVD installer package)
- Added prompt to save project when exiting from AVStoDVD
- Added possibility to make PayPal donations
- Improved AVStoDVD project log file
- Revised bitrate calculation routine and DVD-5/DVD-9 default sizes
- AVStoDVD settings are now stored in the Windows Registry (removed AVStoDVD.ini configuration file)
- HCenc updated to 0.23
- MediaInfo updated to 0.7.6.4
- ImgBurn updated to 2.4.1.0

As usual, comments and suggestions are welcome.

:)

Bye

18th May 2008, 17:09

Thanks for the new version, I haven't converted any projects yet but I've noticed on the jobs list gui the remove symbol is used to move the job up, & vice versa this could be confusing for new users. Not a complaint, just an observation. I realise with all the work involved compiling a new version small issues are easily missed. Hope this helps.

Cheers!

Rogi

18th May 2008, 19:24

First, thank you for new version.:)

I've noticed on the jobs list gui the remove symbol is used to move the job up, & vice versa this could be confusing for new users.

I've also spotted that.

MrC

19th May 2008, 08:00

@wg & Rogi

thanks for "skin" bug report :)
If you want to do some manual patching, you can go into "\AVStoDVD\Skins\Default" folder and rename these files:

A2D_16_13_JobsList_Move.ico -> A2D_16_14_JobsList_Move.ico
A2D_16_14_JobsList_Del.ico -> A2D_16_13_JobsList_Del.ico

you can even modify/replace the icons, if you will.

Please, let me know if everything else is ok when you will go thru a full project.

;)

Bye

19th May 2008, 14:50

RNiK

19th May 2008, 16:44

- MediaInfo updated to 0.7.6.4
UH?? :confused:

MediaInfo has been updated to 0.7.7.0 on May 16th.

ATTENTION: with MediaInfo 0.7.7.0 some fields have changed, look at Changes.txt for more info.

MrC

20th May 2008, 07:39

UH?? :confused:

MediaInfo has been updated to 0.7.7.0 on May 16th.

ATTENTION: with MediaInfo 0.7.7.0 some fields have changed, look at Changes.txt for more info.

Thanks for the warning, RNiK. I was aware of that, but I could not include 0.7.7.0 because AVStoDVD 2.0.0 was pretty ready and I did not want to throw in a new MediaInfo release without testing it.

Btw AVStoDVD 2.0.1 will include surely MediaInfo 0.7.7.0.

;)

Bye

24th May 2008, 15:02

I have done 3 encodes with the latest version & all went perfectly. Very impressed with HCenc OPV, used it for the first time(I usually use HCenc 2 pass VBR). Thanks again MrC.

Cheers!

ChickenMan

25th May 2008, 13:15

tacman1123

25th May 2008, 14:53

I already have AviSynth installed, so I chose "no" when prompted to (re-)install it. Now it's coming up with an error message saying that it's not found.

I looked for an .ini file to set the path manually to my location, but don't see one. How can I use my currently-installed Avisynth?

I don't want to install another instance of AviSynth, because I have lots of things in my plug-in directory that I need, and I don't want to duplicate them, or to have to explicitly call the plugin.

Thanks! This looks much, much, much easier than going through all the steps at http://xvid.ru/docs/rip/dvd/avsynen.htm (which by itself is a great way to learn about all the steps involved, but at this point I'm much happier with a "Press a Button" solution).

Tac

25th May 2008, 17:03

tacman1123

25th May 2008, 17:46

26th May 2008, 00:52

I uninstalled the original, said "Yes" to removing the registry options, downloaded the .7z no_install version, put that in a directory, ran avsToDvd from the new directory, and am still getting the same error. Avisynth is installed, .avs files open fine in WMP, avsp works fine, so I'm sure it's something relatively simple. Any suggestions on what to do next?

Thx,

Tac

I have AviSynth 2.5.7 installed & everything works fine, possibly try a re-install or if you are using a different version try 2.5.7. You also say you have 'lots of things in my plug-in directory that I need' possible conflict? Hope it works out.

tacman1123

26th May 2008, 12:20

MrC

26th May 2008, 13:01

The error message is that it's not seeing AviSynth (Not installed), I don't really have anything odd in my plugins directory, but I also don't want to maintain parallel copies of it. How does the program check for AviSynth? Is there a way I can give it the path?

AVStoDVD checks the following win registry key presence:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\AviSynth

If AviSynth is correctly installed, that key is present and contains the local path to AviSynth folder.

Do you want to solve that issue definitively? Re-install AviSynth.

Do you want to keep everything untouched and do not be annoyed by AVStoDVD error message at startup? Go to 'Settings'/'Misc' and toggle on 'No splash screen at startup'. During Splash Screen displaying, AVStoDVD performs a complete check on required software. No splash screen, no software check, no error messages. :)

Now the question is: if AVStoDVD does not find AviSynth, BUT you assure that AviSynth works, then AVStoDVD should work as well. Correct?

:)

Bye

MrC

26th May 2008, 13:18

I just did 4 encodes with latest version also with HCEnc OPV, size set to 1110 and elementary streams only. First M2V came out 1050kb (correct :) ) , next 873kb, next 922kb, next 860kb. I then did 3 more (size set to 1480), first M2V was 1430kb (correct :) ), next 1440kb (too large and re-jig kicked in and then crashed with a BSOD in my Vista w/SP1), last one after a PC re-start came out 923kb ( thats 35% to small). I re-encoded the last avi using DVD2SVCD with CCE & D2SRoba and it came out at 1360kb, only 5% to small.

Thanks for OPV encoding reports!

I know that AVStoDVD's CQ prediction routine is far to be optimized (like D2SRoba) and can be improved. Any help in that direction (reports like yours, theory, code development, etc.) is welcome.

Now the routine is taking 5% of the total clip (10 parts equi-spaced all along the clip) and find out (max 5 trials) the CQ factor to match the desired filesize (5% of total DVD size).

That routine is quite good when clip has not many motion changes. If many, you must be lucky that the "5% trial clip" is good to describe the whole clip. If not, over/down sizing occurs.

Basically that routine is similar to Amnon82's GetCQ (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=103137), with some optimizations.

More worries from ReJig's crash... I have tested it on Vista standard and never had BSOD...

Let me know if you have suggestions about OPV or do more encoding.

;)

Bye

tacman1123

26th May 2008, 13:19

I checked the registry, and indeed everything is correct for that key (Default) and pluginsdir2_5.

When I double-click on an AVS file, or load it in WMP or other tools, it works the video renders normally. When I try to load an avs file in AVStoDVD, it gives the error message that it's an unsupported filetype ("File format not recognized.")

FWIW, my Avisynth is installed at c:\avisynth, your program was unzipped to c:\avisynth\avstodvd, and I have other tools in that directory as well (e.g. AvsP, vdubmod), so all my Avisynth-related tools are in one directory. (I HATE putting things in Program Files, I do too much stuff on the command line to constantly be dealing with quotes to handle the blank space.)

My plugins directory contains things like SubtitleEx and some custom functions (in an avsi file), but I'm sure the program isn't getting that far.

So that's the reason I don't want to re-install AviSynth, since other tools are installed there.

MrC

26th May 2008, 14:02

When I double-click on an AVS file, or load it in WMP or other tools, it works the video renders normally. When I try to load an avs file in AVStoDVD, it gives the error message that it's an unsupported filetype ("File format not recognized.")

As a matter of fact, you can't load avs files into AVStoDVD. You can load a "standard" clip (avi, mpg, mkv, etc.) and AVStoDVD will generate a AVS script for you. You can edit the script by clicking on 'Edit Title'/'AviSynth'

:)

Bye

ChickenMan

26th May 2008, 14:58

Thanks for OPV encoding reports!
...
Let me know if you have suggestions about OPV or do more encoding.
My only suggestion would be to contact Tylo and have a chat about D2SRoBa, I'm sure he will only be to glab to help you out.

One suggestion though, you use Re-jig to downsize an encode, thats great. But if it to small (occasionally happens with D2SRoBa also), then D2SRoBa initiates a VBR pass using the vaf file generated in the opv pass (using cce as the encoder, not sure if there is a HCEnc equivalent).

One problem I didnt mention in my above post, the first 4 avi's I encoded, I loadeded them into TMPGEnc DVD Author to edit out some footage and to add a simple menu. First 3 loaded in fine, TDA refused to load in the 4th giving no clue as to the problem. The next 3 I did, all 3 refused to load into TDA. All were encoded with identical settings, all default except max bitrate set to 8000 and min bitrate to 2500 (lowest I could go :( ), and DVD size varied from first 4 avis and last 3 of course. All my mpeg-2 "fixing" programs (Re-stream, mpeg-vcr & DVDLab Pro tools) could not "fix" the mpv streams to load into TDA. I ended up having to use DVD2SVCD (has real problems under Vista) to re-encode them so they would load into TDA. I think its time to upgrade to XP :D

tacman1123

26th May 2008, 15:12

Hmm, no wonder I'm confused. I thought AvsToDVD was a program that allowed me to turn my avs scripts into a DVD -- that's not what it does? I use Adobe's Media Encoder to convert avs scripts to Flash, but now need to convert avs scripts, as chapters to a DVD. Any suggestions on where to go?

As I mentioned before, http://xvid.ru/docs/rip/dvd/avsynen.htm spells out all the steps, but was hoping for a simpler, integrated solution.

Thx,

Tac

MrC

26th May 2008, 16:41

My only suggestion would be to contact Tylo and have a chat about D2SRoBa, I'm sure he will only be to glab to help you out.

Thanks for the suggestions. Will do ASAP.

One suggestion though, you use Re-jig to downsize an encode, thats great. But if it to small (occasionally happens with D2SRoBa also), then D2SRoBa initiates a VBR pass using the vaf file generated in the opv pass (using cce as the encoder, not sure if there is a HCEnc equivalent).

Unfortunaltely, not. CCE and HCenc uses different approaches in VBR encoding.

One problem I didnt mention in my above post, the first 4 avi's I encoded, I loadeded them into TMPGEnc DVD Author to edit out some footage and to add a simple menu. First 3 loaded in fine, TDA refused to load in the 4th giving no clue as to the problem. The next 3 I did, all 3 refused to load into TDA. All were encoded with identical settings, all default except max bitrate set to 8000 and min bitrate to 2500 (lowest I could go :( ), and DVD size varied from first 4 avis and last 3 of course. All my mpeg-2 "fixing" programs (Re-stream, mpeg-vcr & DVDLab Pro tools) could not "fix" the mpv streams to load into TDA. I ended up having to use DVD2SVCD (has real problems under Vista) to re-encode them so they would load into TDA. I think its time to upgrade to XP :D

Very, very strange. Could you try to load the m2v+ac3 files into MuxMan? If MuxMan says that something is wrong, I have to worry. If not, leave MuxMan create DVD structure and then feed TDA with VIDEO_TS folder.

Let me know

;)

Bye

ChickenMan

29th May 2008, 03:34

I am able to load the M2V files into Muxman and DVDLab no problems, no objection and they author fine. But then trying to load those into TDA, I still get the same error :(

I tried encoding a 90min avi, all went well and I ended up with a VIDEO_TS folder authored fine, but audio was out of sync by 400ms. TDA has a great feature to allow you to offset audio both + or -'ve and preview the results but since I cant load them into TDA, I resorted to DVDLab, where it has a more clumsy audio off set feature, but it worked.

I've upgraded my system from Vista to XP yesterday so will do some more testing over next few days.

Another suggestion re HCEnc OPV optimazation is to contact jdodds in the ReBuilder forum as I know he and Tylo had lots of discussions on the subject. jdodds has continued to improve his OPV optimization over the years as well. Again, I'm sure he would be only to happy to help out.

MrC

29th May 2008, 08:05

I am able to load the M2V files into Muxman and DVDLab no problems, no objection and they author fine. But then trying to load those into TDA, I still get the same error :(

What TDA release are you using? With 3.x I have never had problems like that.

I tried encoding a 90min avi, all went well and I ended up with a VIDEO_TS folder authored fine, but audio was out of sync by 400ms. TDA has a great feature to allow you to offset audio both + or -'ve and preview the results but since I cant load them into TDA, I resorted to DVDLab, where it has a more clumsy audio off set feature, but it worked.

You can "preview" out of sync by previewing output directly in AVStoDVD main window. Then you can adjust audio delay (+/-) in 'Title Edit'/'AviSynth'/'Audio Delay'. Preview again to see if audio delay adjustment is effective.

Another suggestion re HCEnc OPV optimazation is to contact jdodds in the ReBuilder forum as I know he and Tylo had lots of discussions on the subject. jdodds has continued to improve his OPV optimization over the years as well. Again, I'm sure he would be only to happy to help out.

Will do, thanks for the clue!

:)

Bye

ChickenMan

30th May 2008, 07:37

Well I ran 3 more avi's through and all went without a hitch (though they were between 5-15% to small in size) and all were able to author fine in TDA. I have the latest TDA ver 3.1.1.175 with a purchased serial number :). So I then did another 3, this time one was slightly too large, rejig kicked in and reduced size no probs & without a BSOD :) Again, all loaded into TDA fine. So all in all, looks like Vista was the main cause of most of my probs. A bit more OPV optimization would make this a kick-ass program :) Keep up the great work MrC.

I have noticed that the default encoding folder is not saved in the Project file, is that the case?

Thanks for the tip on the audio sync, but am I able to go back after the encoding and authoring has finished (after finding audio sync is out) and adjust and re-author? or does it have to be done before you start the encoding?

MrC

30th May 2008, 10:43

.. cut ... So all in all, looks like Vista was the main cause of most of my probs.

:eek: :mad:

I have noticed that the default encoding folder is not saved in the Project file, is that the case?

Yes, because default output folder can be setup in 'Settings'/'Path' and AVStoDVD does not store general Settings in the project file. Only project data. Now the question "Is output folder a general setting or a project setting" may come out... ;)

Thanks for the tip on the audio sync, but am I able to go back after the encoding and authoring has finished (after finding audio sync is out) and adjust and re-author? or does it have to be done before you start the encoding?

Of course you can fix audio out of sync *after* encoding, but with TDA or similar other sw. Btw, imo, a preventive fixing is better.

May I ask you if you have had any problems with:
- internal AVStoDVD preview
- DVD burning directly by AVStoDVD

some users in SourceForge forum are having.

Thanks for opinions sharing

:)

MrC

31st May 2008, 02:12

ChickenMan

1st June 2008, 10:53

May I ask you if you have had any problems with:
- internal AVStoDVD preview
- DVD burning directly by AVStoDVD

some users in SourceForge forum are having.

Internal AVStoDVD preview doesnt work for me. Tried with DivX and Xvid avi's, all I get is audio and no picture. I tried 6 or so avi's, all different, all no picture.

As for direct burning, sorry, I have never tried nor would I ever from any program. To many problems with avi to dvd conversion to assume it works perfect every time. Its also rare that I dont add a menu to my encodes, so I use TDA for its authoring. Again, I still manually burn the dvd after final check of the files.

MrC

3rd June 2008, 08:26

I have had 2 separate failures at the authoring stage in Muxman, the AVStoDVD log file makes no mention of any failure. The Video TS IFO file is 0kb, the other files in the Video TS folder seem to be of the correct size. Both encodes were NTSC, 1 using HCEnc OPV, the other Quenc CBR. The video was Xvid 23.976fps 940kbps, with mp3 cbr 32kb audio. I am using the No Install version of the latest version. Thanks in advance for any advice.

May you send me (avstodvd@gmail.com) the 2 log files, if you have kept them?

:)

Bye

MrC

3rd June 2008, 08:33

Internal AVStoDVD preview doesnt work for me. Tried with DivX and Xvid avi's, all I get is audio and no picture. I tried 6 or so avi's, all different, all no picture.

Which kind and release of codec are you using for DivX/XviD? If you are using ffdshow, I have faced a lot of problems with latest "nightly" builds and quartz.dll library (DX DirectShow library I use for AVStoDVD preview). Everything is ok with "official beta4 (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=173941&package_id=199421)"

As for direct burning, sorry, I have never tried nor would I ever from any program. To many problems with avi to dvd conversion to assume it works perfect every time. Its also rare that I dont add a menu to my encodes, so I use TDA for its authoring. Again, I still manually burn the dvd after final check of the files.

Very safe procedure! Btw, if you will ever feel confident to burn directly using AVStoDVD, please let me know the result.

Thanks!

;)

Bye

3rd June 2008, 09:47

May you send me (avstodvd@gmail.com) the 2 log files, if you have kept them?

:)

Bye

Sorry, I did not. But will if it occurs again.

ChickenMan

4th June 2008, 07:51

Which kind and release of codec are you using for DivX/XviD? If you are using ffdshow, I have faced a lot of problems with latest "nightly" builds and quartz.dll library (DX DirectShow library I use for AVStoDVD preview). Everything is ok with "official beta4 (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=173941&package_id=199421)"
I dont run with ffdshow, in the past it was always a nightmare and screwed every system I and others had, so I simply do not ever install. I use only 3 codec,

1. Official DivX codec 6.8.2.8
2. For Xvid I use XviD.cvs.head.MTKVAQ.exe from http://celticdruid.no-ip.com/xvid/
3. For ac3 playback I use ac3filter_1_10b.exe as later ones are also problematic I had found.

MrC

5th June 2008, 18:21

Got it.

A question: does XviD.cvs.head.MTKVAQ decode both DivX and XviD or not?

Bye

ChickenMan

7th June 2008, 06:34

For de-coding, DivX does divx 3, 4, 5 & 6 and Xvid does xvid of all known forms. But for playback of an avi in WMP, DivX plays them all, Xvids included.

MrC

22nd June 2008, 16:12

I have had 2 separate failures at the authoring stage in Muxman, the AVStoDVD log file makes no mention of any failure. The Video TS IFO file is 0kb, the other files in the Video TS folder seem to be of the correct size. Both encodes were NTSC, 1 using HCEnc OPV, the other Quenc CBR. The video was Xvid 23.976fps 940kbps, with mp3 cbr 32kb audio. I am using the No Install version of the latest version. Thanks in advance for any advice.

@wg

may I ask you some help in understading that problem? If you still have that xvid file, could you replace latest MuxMan version (0.16.6 (http://download.videohelp.com/download/muxman_0_16_6.zip)) with MuxMan shipped with AVStoDVD (0.15R) and try again to convert it?

Thanks in advance

:)

Bye

23rd June 2008, 02:34

@wg

may I ask you some help in understading that problem? If you still have that xvid file, could you replace latest MuxMan version (0.16.6 (http://download.videohelp.com/download/muxman_0_16_6.zip)) with MuxMan shipped with AVStoDVD (0.15R) and try again to convert it?

Thanks in advance

:)

Bye

Sorry MrC, but I have since deleted the log , & no longer know which file it was.

MrC

23rd June 2008, 07:42

Ok. Let me know if it happens again.

Next AVStoDVD release will contain MuxMan's newest release (0.16.6), and I would like to know if it can help to fix problems like your (authoring process not finalized).

:)

Bye

Sir Didymus

25th June 2008, 13:32

Hi wg and MrC!

I am doubtful that the new release on MuxMan could be helpful for solving this type of troubles. The previous version of the authoring engine was already very stable.

The reported issue is similar to the ones already discussed elsewere in this forum, and it is most probably related to the assets given in input to MuxMan. These assets should be as much "clean" as possible.

Single pass OPV encodes may easily suffer from troubles in keeping the instantaneous video bitrate under control; also the audio (and the subpictures, if present) should be not affected by glitches...

Cheers,
SD

MrC

25th June 2008, 16:58

Sir Didymus

25th June 2008, 17:48

Hem...
the printout of the log file generated by MuxMan (it is usually C:\MuxMan.log) could be very helpful for going a little bit deeper in the analysis.

A timestamp file containing references to non existing scenes may produce very bad results. That's for sure.

The cell_timecodes or cell_framecount files should be considered as important additional assets for the authoring; again, in case some errors are present in the timestamps of the chapter point file, the MuxMan log would report the problem in very clear terms...

The two formats for the timestamps, e.g. the NDTC format hh:mm:ss:ff and in the framecount format (classical ifoedit or PgcDemux format) are both supported by BatchMux - which is the application preparing the mxp script for MuxMan.

I would say that the first format is more general and easier to produce in case you are dealing with fixed time chapters; in addition it is independent from the TV system (PAL, NTSC) and from the pulldown presence in the video, since the time is measured in absolute, non drop time code terms.

The framecount format is measuring the time in terms of number of pictures in the video stream, but this makes the format depending on the TV system and on the presence of pulldown in the video. The single advantage is that it is very popular (IfoEdit and PgcDemux adopt this format).

The GUI of MuxMan 0.16.6 accepts the framecount format, but the internal representation is in the NDTC format. You can easily see this by saving a MuxMan project which includes some chapters; in the generated mxp script the scene times are reported always in the NDTC format.

Sorry, I did not. But will if it occurs again.
And please, if it will occur again, do not forget to find also the MuxMan.log file and to post it!

Cheers,
SD

ChickenMan

27th June 2008, 02:06

MrC

27th June 2008, 08:02

I see this same problem using Muxman with DVD2SVCD. I've found high bitrate spikes to be the cause (as also suggested by SirD). I originally had Max Bitrates set to 9300 and would get about 2 out of 3 with no VIDEO_TS folder re-built properly. Changed to 9000, and error rate dropped to 1 in 2, dropped to 8500 and now get only 1 in 10 with the problem. That I can handle and with the problem ones, I just manually author in TDA and it will re-encode the high bitrate spike down to dvd standards automatically while authoring.

Which encoder are you using when getting bitrate spikes? Have you seen the problem both with CBR and VBR encoding or only with VBR?

Using HCenc (OPV and VBR 2p) and QuEnc (CBR), and setting 9000 as max bitrate, never had any issue... :confused:

Btw, MuxMan should catch spikes and report them into MuxMan.log, doesn't it? Ok, I will try to simulate the error going to 10000 max bitrate, and then handle it.

;)

Bye

:)

Bye

manolito

27th June 2008, 11:13

From my experience the 1-pass VBR modes are most prone to these problems. For CCE SP 2.67 and 2.70 and for QuEnc I have to set max bitrate to 8000. HC CQ_MAXBITRATE overshoots a lot less than the other encoders, so I never had problems with max bitrate set to 8500 (probably even 9000 will be ok for HC).

And I am absolutely sure that this is not a problem with MuxMan. For me MuxMan has become the ultimate tool to check if a conversion is DVD compliant or not. Other muxing / authoring tools (like mplex / dvdauthor) are a lot less picky than MuxMan, but you might end up with a DVD which stutters in some standalone players (software players mostly don't stutter even with problematic encodes).

Cheers
manolito

ChickenMan

28th June 2008, 10:37

Same as manolito, mostly with 1-pass VBR (using D2SRoba) and CCE 2.50/2.70. I have not used enough of HCenc to see if its any better or worse, to be honest.

MrC

28th June 2008, 11:24

Thanks manolito and ChickenMan for your experience.

From my error simulation (max bitrate set to 15000 to HCenc OPV), MuxMan does not allow to finalize the authouring process and write in MuxMan.log about excessive bitrate.

Give me a pair of weeks and I will kick out a new AVStoDVD release with an improved MuxMan error management (along with DVD menu creation and editing.... ssshh, don't say anything!)

:)

Bye

Sir Didymus

2nd July 2008, 08:43

...
(along with DVD menu creation and editing.... ssshh, don't say anything!)

...

Mhhh! That sounds VERY INTERESTING...

Thank you for working and continuously improving AVStoDVD!

Cheers,
SD

rendez2k

3rd July 2008, 23:14

rendez2k

4th July 2008, 08:04

rendez2k

5th July 2008, 13:52

MrC

7th July 2008, 15:32

Yup menu editing if true sounds very interesting! Some of the better apps which offered menus haven't been updated much recently so hopefully we'll have a decent converter with killer features and active updates!

It's true, it's true. Optimizations are ongoing, but if you "cannot wait", I can publish a alpha release.

:)

Bye

MrC

7th July 2008, 15:38

I have HCEnc OPV 1-pass setup in the options (I assume the higlighted one is the default?), but when I start encoding QUEnc is being used. Clicking on Edit Title shows that QuEnc is being used in the Auto Video Setup options. Can you force HCEnc to be used as default?

Yes you can. By toggling off "Auto Video Setup" in Edit Title and selecting video profile you prefer.
AVStoDVD selects the best profile looking at the bitrate. In 'Settings'/'Video' you can customize the (3) bitrate levels for the (3) video profile.

For more explanations, see the Help section (press F1) or read this post in AVStoDVD forum @Sourceforge (http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=2049220&forum_id=700796)

Also, I notice if I change the DVD Size and Output setup that these values aren't being remembered when I quit the program? Is there away to do this?

Good suggestion for next release improvements! Thanks!

:)

Bye

MrC

7th July 2008, 15:43

Sorry, another issue/question. I've added subtitles to my movie - and selected to hard-code them. However, when I test playback in PowerDVD, I end up with two subtitles - 1 hard-coded and 1 which is user selectable (which I can turn off) over the top (slightly out of time to the other). Any ideas?

Well, it is not really an issue... It is a bug. If hard-encoded is selected, no standard subs should appear. Will fix it.

What do you mean by "slightly out of time to the other"?

:)

Bye

rendez2k

7th July 2008, 15:50

Hi MrC - for some reason it appeared that the hard coded subtitles appeared at a slightly different time to the normal subtitles. Not sure which was correct through.

Also, if you have any alpha versions, there always good to play with and provide feedback for!

rendez2k

7th July 2008, 16:05

Yes you can. By toggling off "Auto Video Setup" in Edit Title and selecting video profile you prefer.
AVStoDVD selects the best profile looking at the bitrate. In 'Settings'/'Video' you can customize the (3) bitrate levels for the (3) video profile.

For more explanations, see the Help section (press F1) or read this post in AVStoDVD forum @Sourceforge (http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=2049220&forum_id=700796)

While I understand this a little better now, a few things spring to mind. Firstly, I'm not a fan of QuEnc due to some odd issues and encodes in the past. I now only use HCEnc for all my encodes (it also works quickly on my quad core) so can QuEnc be disabled? Also, maybe the predicted bitrate and encoder/method could be displayed on the main screen without me having to jump into the edit tile menu?

fedeeee

7th July 2008, 22:00

Hi, I think I've found a little bug, at least on my pc...
After selecting source video file, and press the button "Preview file output", if I select "Goto frame..." and then press "Cancel", the program crashes with a "Run-time error 13: type mismatch".
Can anyone reproduce it?
Bye

rendez2k

7th July 2008, 22:03

7th July 2008, 23:57

Tried to run AVStoDVD on Ubuntu Hardy using wine, with little success, it won't open. I have installed all the requirements, still no luck. Any advice much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

MrC

10th July 2008, 15:33

MrC

10th July 2008, 15:37

While I understand this a little better now, a few things spring to mind. Firstly, I'm not a fan of QuEnc due to some odd issues and encodes in the past. I now only use HCEnc for all my encodes (it also works quickly on my quad core) so can QuEnc be disabled? Also, maybe the predicted bitrate and encoder/method could be displayed on the main screen without me having to jump into the edit tile menu?

It can be disabled. Follow these steps:
- Go to 'Settings'/'Encoding'
- Select 'QuEnc CBR 1-pass'
- Put 'Lower bitrate level' to 9000

Done! Simple, isn't it?

You can also customize bitrate levels for 'HCenc OPV 1-pass' and 'HCenc VBR 2-pass'.

Ah, do not forget to check 'Save current settings as default' before exiting from Settings window.

;)

Bye

MrC

10th July 2008, 15:44

Tried to run AVStoDVD on Ubuntu Hardy using wine, with little success, it won't open. I have installed all the requirements, still no luck. Any advice much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Thanks for feedback about Ubuntu compliance. But I cannot reproduce it, since I do not have Linux installed, and I do not mention Linux as OS supported by AVStoDVD, which is a Win32 program developped with good old VB6 (launched in 1996...).

Mabye does Wine lack VB6 runtime libraries (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=it&FamilyID=7b9ba261-7a9c-43e7-9117-f673077ffb3c)?

Bye

MrC

10th July 2008, 15:51

Hi MrC - for some reason it appeared that the hard coded subtitles appeared at a slightly different time to the normal subtitles. Not sure which was correct through.

I have simulated what you pointed out, and yes, the out of phase is present, but really unnoticeable (much less than 1 second). Btw, with bug fixing, that issue will disappear as well.

Also, if you have any alpha versions, there always good to play with and provide feedback for!

Will publish it within one week. Now I am on vacation and I am waiting for some feedbacks from Sir Dydimus which is testing BatchMux (really a great wrapper) implementation/usage to create DVD Menus with AVStoDVD.

;)

Bye

rendez2k

10th July 2008, 20:21

Brilliant news! Many thanks Mr C! One other question, is it possible to put HCEnc into 'good' profile rather than 'best'?

MrC

14th July 2008, 09:13

One other question, is it possible to put HCEnc into 'good' profile rather than 'best'?

What do you exactly mean?

:confused:

Bye

rendez2k

14th July 2008, 09:40

What do you exactly mean?

:confused:

Bye

HCEnc has 3 encoding profiles. It currently appears to be set to 'best' (which takes the longest time to encode). Is it just a simple job of changing hc.ini?

MrC

14th July 2008, 14:59

HCEnc has 3 encoding profiles. It currently appears to be set to 'best' (which takes the longest time to encode). Is it just a simple job of changing hc.ini?

Ok, got it. HCenc accepts "FAST", "NORMAL" and "BEST" profile. In AVStoDVD, since QuEnc is adopted for *easy* encoding, I have hard-coded "BEST" profile for HCenc, which is adopted for *difficult* encoding.

I'm not plannig to put an option to customize HCenc profile, at least it is not on top of my ToDo list.

And I fear that grabbing HCenc ini file (created by AVStoDVD and stored in Temp folder) is not very easy because there is no time span between ini creation and usage...

Let me know if I have answered to your question.

:)

Bye

rendez2k

14th July 2008, 16:25

I'd normally only use best, but if I want to do a fast test or something I'm not really bothered about, I'd have liked the option to change the profile.

It appears I need to edit hc.ini for another reason (as discussed in the HC forum here for a problem I've been having)

For the first time, I noticed an error with HCEnc yesterday, ERROR, source mismatch in pass 2 starting at frame: 0

It's probably your Direct Show decoder that does not support frame accurate seeking as the error message means that the first frame in the first pass is different form the first frame in the second pass.

You could try to fix it by enabling the reload Avisynth switch in HCEnc. It was made for these kinds of errors.

Which means I need to add *AVSRELOAD to hc.ini

Sir Didymus

15th July 2008, 15:38

For people interested in adding custom initialisations to the encodes based on HCenc, Darksoul71 has just released a very interesting wrapper for HCenc. See here the details:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=139277

However I did not perform any test on my own (at least up to this moment...) of AVStoDVD + HCWrap...

Cheers,
SD

rendez2k

15th July 2008, 16:03

MrC

15th July 2008, 16:04

It appears I need to edit hc.ini for another reason (as discussed in the HC forum here for a problem I've been having)

Which means I need to add *AVSRELOAD to hc.ini

*AVSRELOAD is already present by default in HC ini files generated by AVStoDVD.

;)

Bye

MrC

15th July 2008, 16:13

Go to AVStoDVD homepage (http://avstodvd.googlepages.com/home).

You will find a shy (risky?) try to grow up.

:)

Bye

rendez2k

15th July 2008, 16:16

2.10! May I ask whats new :-)

MrC

15th July 2008, 16:30

Release 2.1.0 Alpha build 080715 (http://avstodvd.googlepages.com/AVStoDVD_210Alpha080715_NoInstall.7z)

Only "NoInstall" package.

Change Log:

- Some bugs fixed
- Added simple DVD Menu editing and building (only widescreen format)
- Added an option to quickly lock the Video Encoding Profiles
- Added adaptive quantization to HCenc encoding (AQ 1)
- Added 'Custom DVD Size' storing
- Added main AVStoDVD form position storing upon exit
- Added 'Restore default Settings' in main form menu
- Improved use of BatchMux (many thanks to Sir Didymus for his help)
- Improved use of API BrowseForFolder
- Improved log activity
- Removed internal check on DVD drive status before burning (ImgBurn does the stuff by itself)
- MediaInfo updated to 0.7.7.2

;)

Bye

Sir Didymus

15th July 2008, 17:15

After a couple of quick test runs, it looks nice, very nice!!!.

:)

Cheers,
SD

rendez2k

15th July 2008, 18:09

A really good menu editor for a first beta! I need to play more and I've had one crash so far in the editor but its a good start. One small point is that I have to add 1 title at a time - ideally I'd like to be able to select multiple videos in one go to add. Also, if I save a menu I assume it overwrites the original? Maybe a 'save as' would be better?

What are you're plans and future features for the editor before I start suggesting things :-)

rendez2k

15th July 2008, 18:31

rendez2k

15th July 2008, 19:36

Alpha doesn't appear to be holding custom disc size on program restart

MrC

16th July 2008, 07:59

One small point is that I have to add 1 title at a time - ideally I'd like to be able to select multiple videos in one go to add

Good suggestion, even if it is not related to DVD Menu Editor but to main form.

Also, if I save a menu I assume it overwrites the original? Maybe a 'save as' would be better?

The "Save and Exit" button is releated only to current project DVD Menu settings, not to the template. Templates can be modified (or added) manually going to \AVStoDVD\Menu\Templates folder.

What are you're plans and future features for the editor before I start suggesting things :-)

Just 2 to begin: support to motion menu and background audio. Btw, feel free to request new features. My free time is the main limitation... :)

Alpha doesn't appear to be holding custom disc size on program restart

Do not confuse "DVD Size" with "Custom DVD Size". AVStoDVD stores only last typed "Custom DVD Size". When you restart AVStoDVD, "DVD Size" is always set to 'DVD-5' (like default "Ouput" is always 'DVD Folder Structure'), but if you select 'Custom', you will be prompted with last inserted "Custom DVD Size".

Hint: you can select "DVD Size" also by right-clicking on its Status Bar section.

Hope to have understood what you meant and have answered.

:)

Bye

rendez2k

16th July 2008, 08:21

Thanks for the answers! Motion menus would be brilliant. With regards to adding more than one title at a time, would drag and drop from windows explorer onto the title list be an option? After a night of testing, I guess the main things with the menu editor would be

- drag and drop interaction - so to move or delete something you could literally click and drag (maybe with some simple align tools?). I didn't really like the default layout when I added 6 titles. It put five thumbnails across the top and one underneath. I would have had to manually re-align them to get 3 at the top and 3 at the bottom. What about some quick layout templates if not?
- the option not to have the play all button (don't like/use them myself!)
- the option to have text only menus (so far, DVDforger excels in this but I'm sure AVStoDVD will catch up!)
- can the font be changed for all objects in one go?

I've not tested a full DVD yet so I'm not sure how the highlights work - preview doesn't appear to show them? Are the highlight colours changeable?

Also, if I design a template (say for a TV series) can I reuse it in the future (if its only saved to the current project)?

I'm sure I'll come up with more clever ideas given time (I like a good menu editor!)

rendez2k

16th July 2008, 08:44

Also, just had that error again when I tried to edit the DVD title

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i37/rendez2k/AVS_error-1.jpg

Sir Didymus

16th July 2008, 09:59

...
- the option not to have the play all button (don't like/use them myself!)
...

Ouch! This suggestion (assuming MrC accept to implement it in the future) have an impact on the DVD navigation --> it implies to change BatchMux. However, it seems very useful to me... Added to the todo list for BatchMux... THANKS FOR THE GOOD IDEA!

MrC

16th July 2008, 13:16

- drag and drop interaction - so to move or delete something you could literally click and drag (maybe with some simple align tools?)

Not simple, VB6 is not very user-oriented, but I can try to manage it.

I didn't really like the default layout when I added 6 titles. It put five thumbnails across the top and one underneath. I would have had to manually re-align them to get 3 at the top and 3 at the bottom

What do you think about adding an option to set default maximum Thumbs for each row in 'Settings'/'DVD Menu'?

- the option not to have the play all button (don't like/use them myself!)

After Sir Didymus implementation in BatchMux, we can talk about it

- the option to have text only menus (so far, DVDforger excels in this but I'm sure AVStoDVD will catch up!)

Do you really like text only menus? Mmmh, IMO the result is not worth the effort... let's wait if other users ask for them.

- can the font be changed for all objects in one go?

Now the only way to do it is to go to template folder (i.e. "C:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\Menu\Templates\Blue Rain"), open file "Label.ini" and manually modify [Thumbnails] environs.

I've not tested a full DVD yet so I'm not sure how the highlights work - preview doesn't appear to show them? Are the highlight colours changeable?

Also, if I design a template (say for a TV series) can I reuse it in the future (if its only saved to the current project)?

Preview Mode displays only a static image that shows output DVD Menu. I hope, when I will implement motion menu, to make Preview Mode more "real".

Also, if I design a template (say for a TV series) can I reuse it in the future (if its only saved to the current project)?

The possibility to save current edited layout as a new template is surely a good improvement. Btw, you can already do that going to templates folder and manually modding the settings.
I suggest you to copy&paste one template-folder (i.e. "Blue Rain") and then mod the newly created folder.

Also, just had that error again when I tried to edit the DVD title

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i37/rendez2k/AVS_error-1.jpg

I cannot open the image. Please fully upload it or send it by email.

:)

Bye

rendez2k

16th July 2008, 13:31

The maximum thumbs per row option would help a lot! As for text menus, sometimes I like to do a menu in PhotoShop and just add simple text links in the menu but maybe thats a personal thing! Can the frame for the thumbnail be chosen?

The other points are all fair comments!

I've tired again with the image here:
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4741/avserror1ak7.jpg

MrC

17th July 2008, 13:16

Also, just had that error again when I tried to edit the DVD title

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i37/rendez2k/AVS_error-1.jpg

Does the error appear when you click on "Edit Mode"? Elsewhere? Does it appear always or sometimes?

Bye

rendez2k

17th July 2008, 13:20

Does the error appear when you click on "Edit Mode"? Elsewhere? Does it appear always or sometimes?

Bye

Just sometimes. I did make it happen when I tried to edit some other titles and clicking on the background. Tested on 2 machines and both the same.

19th July 2008, 00:56

ricardo.santos

19th July 2008, 09:14

Hi MRC

Why doesnt AVS2DVd offer 2 pass Quenc conversions? Why just the 1 pass option?

Also default options are not being saved, i select 2 Hcenc pass and save it as default but upon loading i see Quen 1 pass option as been autoselected, wouldnt it be better that video title encoding options would be the default ones selected in the main menu?

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8730/avs2dvd01gs1.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9730/avs2dvd02xq3.jpg

Also why not autoselecting subtitles if they have the same name as the movie/clip?

great job with AVS2DVD, users can now submit skins and dvd menus for it. Nice.

tried it 2 times and had no problems apart from the ones i mentioned

MrC

20th July 2008, 09:07

Would it be possible in a future release to incorporate the 'Lumgain' option available in HCenc, I believe this can help eliminate blockiness & pixelation in dark scenes. I tried to set this feature manually, but it goes back to the default 0 when HCenc is closed. I realise your busy implementing the menu options at the moment MrC, but it would be a nice feature to see on a future release, if it's possible to do.

Thanks in advance.

What about adding an option box (we shall call it "Advanced HCenc configuration") in 'Title Edit/Video' to open a form to customize some HCenc parameters, like AQ, Lumgain, Matrix, etc.?

;)

Bye

rendez2k

20th July 2008, 09:17

Hi MRC
Also default options are not being saved, i select 2 Hcenc pass and save it as default but upon loading i see Quen 1 pass option as been autoselected, wouldnt it be better that video title encoding options would be the default ones selected in the main menu?

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8730/avs2dvd01gs1.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9730/avs2dvd02xq3.jpg

I think this is the same question I had - heres the answer:

AVStoDVD selects the best profile looking at the bitrate. In 'Settings'/'Video' you can customize the (3) bitrate levels for the (3) video profile.

For more explanations, see the Help section (press F1) or read this post in AVStoDVD forum @Sourceforge

MrC

20th July 2008, 09:24

Why doesnt AVS2DVd offer 2 pass Quenc conversions? Why just the 1 pass option?

Do you refer to 2pass VBR encoding with QuEnc? I strongly believe that HCenc is better in VBR encoding than QuEnc, so I do not think that a "QuEnc VBR 2-pass" could be a great improvement in AVStoDVD capabilities.

Also default options are not being saved, i select 2 Hcenc pass and save it as default but upon loading i see Quen 1 pass option as been autoselected, wouldnt it be better that video title encoding options would be the default ones selected in the main menu?

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8730/avs2dvd01gs1.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9730/avs2dvd02xq3.jpg

That's really a neverending story. As I explained some posts ago, in 'Settings'/'Encoding' you DO NOT set default video encoding profile. You DO set bitrates levels for the 3 video profiles that AVStoDVD autoselect just based upon the bitrates levels.

Thus, if your goal is to freeze, for example, profile "HCenc VBR 2-pass" forever, you have to select it in 'Settings'/'Encoding' and then click on the "lock" button (it is present since 2.1.0 Alpha). You will see that 'higher bitrate level' will become 9000: now AVStoDVD will autoselect 'HCenc VBR 2-pass' when bitrates are between 2500 and 9000 (in other words, always).

If you will you can customize the 3 profile with bitrates levels you prefer.

Is it really so confusing? I think it is a smart way to let AVStoDVD do the "righter" choice depending from output bitrate...

Also why not autoselecting subtitles if they have the same name as the movie/clip?

Good suggestion! Will put in my ToDo list.

great job with AVS2DVD, users can now submit skins and dvd menus for it. Nice.

Thanks! I's a way to "invite" users to expand AVStoDVD's features...

;)

Bye

MrC

20th July 2008, 09:26

Just sometimes. I did make it happen when I tried to edit some other titles and clicking on the background. Tested on 2 machines and both the same.

Found it. It was a bug in DVD Menu Editor items managing. A new Alpha is almost ready... stay tuned!

;)

Bye

rendez2k

20th July 2008, 09:31

Is it really so confusing? I think it is a smart way to let AVStoDVD do the "righter" choice depending from output bitrate...

I actually think it is confusing for new users. Most people don't read manuals and I think people expect it to work like most other encoding software - as in you select the encoder and options and hit save and thats the default. I'd personally like to see a more traditional method of encoder selecting as I 99% of the time like to use HCenc 2 pass.

Anyway, looking forward to the new alpha :D

20th July 2008, 09:47

What about adding an option box (we shall call it "Advanced HCenc configuration") in 'Title Edit/Video' to open a form to customize some HCenc parameters, like AQ, Lumgain, Matrix, etc.?

;)

Bye

Brilliant, really looking forward to this, & thanks for the quick response.

Cheers!

Rogi

20th July 2008, 10:23

MrC

23rd July 2008, 08:35

Available AVStoDVD 2.1.0 Alpha 080722 (http://avstodvd.googlepages.com/AVStoDVD_210Alpha080722_NoInstall.7z).

Change log (since last Alpha):

- Added multiple file selection in 'Add' Common Dialog window
- Added autoselect Audio and Subs files if they have same name as Video
- Added 'HCenc Advanced Configuration' option (AQ, Lumgain, Matrix, Profile) in 'Title Edit'/'Video'
- Added direct access to 'Settings'/'DVD Menu' from DVD Menu Editor (faster way to change settings)
- Added 'Default Max Thumbs per Row' option in 'Settings'/'DVD Menu'
- Added 'TV Overscan' and 'Center Axis' display in DVD Menu Editor
- MediaInfo updated to 0.7.7.4
- BatchMux updated to 1.1

:)

Bye

rendez2k

23rd July 2008, 08:53

MrC

23rd July 2008, 09:22

Brilliant! Just given it a very quick test and I'm liking the thumbs per row option, HC options and overscan display lines - good work! I'll give it a full test later....

Wow! Your feedback are as fast as light! Btw, please download again the 080722 build, because the first upload was partially broken.

:)

Bye

rendez2k

23rd July 2008, 09:29

Wow! Your feedback are as fast as light! Btw, please download again the 080722 build, because the first upload was partially broken.

:)

Bye

Just happened to be on the internet and bored at work!

rendez2k

24th July 2008, 19:09

My full test went well and found no obvious issues so far - good work! So hopefully the next job is to add new menu features :-)

MrC

24th July 2008, 19:32

My full test went well and found no obvious issues so far - good work! So hopefully the next job is to add new menu features :-)

Thanks for the feedback.

Yes, very next steps will be: a better Editor GUI, locking labels properties (change one -> change all), anchoring labels to thumbs, motion menu (only thumbs). Then: drag&drop, templates saving and text only menus.

;)

Bye

rendez2k

24th July 2008, 19:35

Thanks for the feedback.

Yes, very next steps will be: a better Editor GUI, locking labels properties (change one -> change all), anchoring labels to thumbs, motion menu (only thumbs). Then: drag&drop, templates saving and text only menus.

;)

Bye

Sounds wonderful! Its becoming my only app for DVD conversions :-)

rendez2k

25th July 2008, 21:10

A few more small usability thoughts. Could you add that double clicking on a title opens the edit title options and could the average bitrate for all videos be shown in the status bar (so you can quickly see if you've added too much video data)? Also, can you change the encoding options for all titles at once?

MrC

28th July 2008, 14:57

Could you add that double clicking on a title opens the edit title options

Yes. :) Btw, have you tried to right-click on it?

could the average bitrate for all videos be shown in the status bar (so you can quickly see if you've added too much video data)?

Not sure: to look at video bitrate, you have only to open 'Edit Title' form. Status bar is already so crowded...

Also, can you change the encoding options for all titles at once?

Very hard. Titles could be very different (aspect ratio, video/audio retaining, subs). Changing one option for all means to create a complex control routine to check every title... sorry, sometimes I am very lazy.... :p

;)

Bye

28th July 2008, 19:58

MrC

28th July 2008, 21:18

I'm using the latest Noinstall beta, I changed the SubtitleCreator profile xml document in the Subtitlecreator data folder[Font-Tahoma to Verdana, size 18 to 16, bold to regular. I also slightly altered the subtitle position] Unfortunately nothing appears to have changed in the output dvd, the subtitle size seems the same. I have used this method to change the profiles when using FAVC & have had no issues. Do I need to do something else to change the profile when using AVStoDVD. On a more upbeat note thanks for so quickly incorporating the HCenc advanced options into AVStoDVD.

Thanks in advance.

You just did what it is needed...
The only reason that comes to my mind is that there are 8 profiles:

AVStoDVD PAL 4:3 Full-D1
AVStoDVD PAL 4:3 Half-D1
AVStoDVD PAL 16:9 Full-D1
AVStoDVD PAL 16:9 Half-D1
AVStoDVD NTSC 4:3 Full-D1
AVStoDVD NTSC 4:3 Half-D1
AVStoDVD NTSC 16:9 Full-D1
AVStoDVD NTSC 16:9 Half-D1

Are you sure you have edited the right one?

Ah, you did not setup hard-encoded sub, did you?

;)

Bye

29th July 2008, 10:33

You just did what it is needed...
The only reason that comes to my mind is that there are 8 profiles:

AVStoDVD PAL 4:3 Full-D1
AVStoDVD PAL 4:3 Half-D1
AVStoDVD PAL 16:9 Full-D1
AVStoDVD PAL 16:9 Half-D1
AVStoDVD NTSC 4:3 Full-D1
AVStoDVD NTSC 4:3 Half-D1
AVStoDVD NTSC 16:9 Full-D1
AVStoDVD NTSC 16:9 Half-D1

Are you sure you have edited the right one?

Ah, you did not setup hard-encoded sub, did you?

;)

Bye

Here is a copy of my edited profile:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-16"?>

<Profiles>

<Profile Name="AVStoDVD PAL 4:3">

<Window DistanceToLeftBorder="80" DistanceToTopBorder="450" Width="560" />
<Stretch Horizontal="100" Vertical="100" />
<LineHeight Value="100" />
<Formatting Lines="2" Wrap="True" VerticalAlignment="3" VerticalFont="False" />
</Profile>
<Profile Name="AVStoDVD PAL 16:9">

<Window DistanceToLeftBorder="80" DistanceToTopBorder="440" Width="560" />
<Stretch Horizontal="100" Vertical="100" />
<LineHeight Value="100" />
<Formatting Lines="2" Wrap="True" VerticalAlignment="3" VerticalFont="False" />
</Profile>
<Profile Name="AVStoDVD NTSC 4:3">

<Window DistanceToLeftBorder="80" DistanceToTopBorder="380" Width="560" />
<Stretch Horizontal="100" Vertical="100" />
<LineHeight Value="100" />
<Formatting Lines="2" Wrap="True" VerticalAlignment="3" VerticalFont="False" />
</Profile>
<Profile Name="AVStoDVD NTSC 16:9">

<Window DistanceToLeftBorder="80" DistanceToTopBorder="370" Width="560" />
<Stretch Horizontal="100" Vertical="100" />
<LineHeight Value="100" />
<Formatting Lines="2" Wrap="True" VerticalAlignment="3" VerticalFont="False" />
</Profile>
</Profiles>

I have just tried another encode & the subs are still the same, they have not changed to my selection(Pal 16:9). Also the subtitle settings I have deleted from the profile are still shown in Sub Creators profile list? On my first attempt I only edited the pal 16:9 full D1 entry, & obviously that didn't work either. Even if I change the 'Distance To Top Border' setting the subs do not move. The settings are the same as I have set in FAVC, but for some reason they appear higher up, more towards the centre of the screen when encoded using AVStoDVD. The subs are selectable not hard encoded.

Thanks in advance.

MrC

29th July 2008, 13:12

@wg

please do not alter so much the profiles.xml file that comes with AVStoDVD! You have removed 4 profiles. AVStoDVD needs to have all above 8 profiles when calling SubtitlesCreator.

This is the original profiles.xml:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-16"?>

<Profiles>

<Profile Name="AVStoDVD PAL 4:3 Full-D1">

<Window DistanceToLeftBorder="80" DistanceToTopBorder="450" Width="560" />
<Stretch Horizontal="100" Vertical="100" />
<LineHeight Value="100" />
<Formatting Lines="2" Wrap="True" VerticalAlignment="3" VerticalFont="False" />
</Profile>
<Profile Name="AVStoDVD PAL 4:3 Half-D1">

<Window DistanceToLeftBorder="36" DistanceToTopBorder="450" Width="280" />
<Stretch Horizontal="100" Vertical="200" />
<LineHeight Value="100" />
<Formatting Lines="4" Wrap="True" VerticalAlignment="3" VerticalFont="False" />
</Profile>
<Profile Name="AVStoDVD PAL 16:9 Full-D1">

<Window DistanceToLeftBorder="80" DistanceToTopBorder="430" Width="560" />
<Stretch Horizontal="100" Vertical="125" />
<LineHeight Value="100" />
<Formatting Lines="3" Wrap="True" VerticalAlignment="3" VerticalFont="False" />
</Profile>
<Profile Name="AVStoDVD PAL 16:9 Half-D1">

<Window DistanceToLeftBorder="36" DistanceToTopBorder="430" Width="280" />
<Stretch Horizontal="100" Vertical="250" />
<LineHeight Value="100" />
<Formatting Lines="5" Wrap="True" VerticalAlignment="3" VerticalFont="False" />
</Profile>
<Profile Name="AVStoDVD NTSC 4:3 Full-D1">

<Window DistanceToLeftBorder="80" DistanceToTopBorder="370" Width="560" />
<Stretch Horizontal="100" Vertical="100" />
<LineHeight Value="100" />
<Formatting Lines="2" Wrap="True" VerticalAlignment="3" VerticalFont="False" />
</Profile>
<Profile Name="AVStoDVD NTSC 4:3 Half-D1">

<Window DistanceToLeftBorder="36" DistanceToTopBorder="370" Width="280" />
<Stretch Horizontal="100" Vertical="200" />
<LineHeight Value="100" />
<Formatting Lines="4" Wrap="True" VerticalAlignment="3" VerticalFont="False" />
</Profile>
<Profile Name="AVStoDVD NTSC 16:9 Full-D1">

<Window DistanceToLeftBorder="80" DistanceToTopBorder="350" Width="560" />
<Stretch Horizontal="100" Vertical="125" />
<LineHeight Value="100" />
<Formatting Lines="3" Wrap="True" VerticalAlignment="3" VerticalFont="False" />
</Profile>
<Profile Name="AVStoDVD NTSC 16:9 Half-D1">

<Window DistanceToLeftBorder="36" DistanceToTopBorder="350" Width="280" />
<Stretch Horizontal="100" Vertical="250" />
<LineHeight Value="100" />
<Formatting Lines="5" Wrap="True" VerticalAlignment="3" VerticalFont="False" />
</Profile>
</Profiles>

If you want to make subs for a PAL 16:9 Full-D1 configuration, and you want to change the font from Tahoma 18pt to Times New Roman 10pt, your profile.xml will become:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-16"?>

<Profiles>

<Profile Name="AVStoDVD PAL 4:3 Full-D1">

<Window DistanceToLeftBorder="80" DistanceToTopBorder="450" Width="560" />
<Stretch Horizontal="100" Vertical="100" />
<LineHeight Value="100" />
<Formatting Lines="2" Wrap="True" VerticalAlignment="3" VerticalFont="False" />
</Profile>
<Profile Name="AVStoDVD PAL 4:3 Half-D1">

<Window DistanceToLeftBorder="36" DistanceToTopBorder="450" Width="280" />
<Stretch Horizontal="100" Vertical="200" />
<LineHeight Value="100" />
<Formatting Lines="4" Wrap="True" VerticalAlignment="3" VerticalFont="False" />
</Profile>
<Profile Name="AVStoDVD PAL 16:9 Full-D1">

<Window DistanceToLeftBorder="80" DistanceToTopBorder="430" Width="560" />
<Stretch Horizontal="100" Vertical="125" />
<LineHeight Value="100" />
<Formatting Lines="3" Wrap="True" VerticalAlignment="3" VerticalFont="False" />
</Profile>
<Profile Name="AVStoDVD PAL 16:9 Half-D1">

<Window DistanceToLeftBorder="36" DistanceToTopBorder="430" Width="280" />
<Stretch Horizontal="100" Vertical="250" />
<LineHeight Value="100" />
<Formatting Lines="5" Wrap="True" VerticalAlignment="3" VerticalFont="False" />
</Profile>
<Profile Name="AVStoDVD NTSC 4:3 Full-D1">

<Window DistanceToLeftBorder="80" DistanceToTopBorder="370" Width="560" />
<Stretch Horizontal="100" Vertical="100" />
<LineHeight Value="100" />
<Formatting Lines="2" Wrap="True" VerticalAlignment="3" VerticalFont="False" />
</Profile>
<Profile Name="AVStoDVD NTSC 4:3 Half-D1">

<Window DistanceToLeftBorder="36" DistanceToTopBorder="370" Width="280" />
<Stretch Horizontal="100" Vertical="200" />
<LineHeight Value="100" />
<Formatting Lines="4" Wrap="True" VerticalAlignment="3" VerticalFont="False" />
</Profile>
<Profile Name="AVStoDVD NTSC 16:9 Full-D1">

<Window DistanceToLeftBorder="80" DistanceToTopBorder="350" Width="560" />
<Stretch Horizontal="100" Vertical="125" />
<LineHeight Value="100" />
<Formatting Lines="3" Wrap="True" VerticalAlignment="3" VerticalFont="False" />
</Profile>
<Profile Name="AVStoDVD NTSC 16:9 Half-D1">

<Window DistanceToLeftBorder="36" DistanceToTopBorder="350" Width="280" />
<Stretch Horizontal="100" Vertical="250" />
<LineHeight Value="100" />
<Formatting Lines="5" Wrap="True" VerticalAlignment="3" VerticalFont="False" />
</Profile>
</Profiles>

Please take note that profile 3 has been changed.

Let me know

;)

Bye

29th July 2008, 16:54

Originally Posted by MrC View Post
@wg

please do not alter so much the profiles.xml file that comes with AVStoDVD! You have removed 4 profiles. AVStoDVD needs to have all above 8 profiles when calling SubtitlesCreator.

The only values I changed originally were:

<Profile Name="AVStoDVD PAL 16:9 Full-D1">

<Window DistanceToLeftBorder="80" DistanceToTopBorder="450" Width="560" />

I left every thing else as it was, I edited nothing except that shown.
This had no effect on the output it stayed the same, as did the version I last submitted, which also stayed the same. When I edit the xml profile it is having no effect on the output, it is staying the same as it was? Could it somehow be deferring to the default setting?

Thanks in advance.

MrC

29th July 2008, 20:08

29th July 2008, 20:36

@wg

Check if you have a profile.xml file in your "c:\documents and settings\youruser\Application Data\SubtitleCreator" folder. If you have, that one overrides the profile.xml file in "c:\program files\avstodvd\SubtitleCreator\data", so you have either to delete the first one or to edit it.

Btw, to test if changing font settings has effect, use font and size "very" different from the default: Verdana 16pt is not much different from Tahoma 18pt...

I have no profile.xml in AppData folder and I tried with Times New Roman 10pt and it works as now as when I implemented subs routine in AVStoDVD.

;)

Bye

I'm using the Noinstall version so I have no folder in App Data, I'm going to delete the folder I have AVS installed in, clean the reg, & extract afresh. I'll then edit the xml file as discussed & do an encoding. I will report the result tomorrow.

Thanks for the interest MrC

MrC

30th July 2008, 08:16

I'm using the Noinstall version so I have no folder in App Data, I'm going to delete the folder I have AVS installed in, clean the reg, & extract afresh. I'll then edit the xml file as discussed & do an encoding. I will report the result tomorrow.

Thanks for the interest MrC

AVStoDVD does not put any files in the User AppData folder by itself. Instead SubtitleCreator, when used to modify profiles by its GUI, do create a *secondary* profiles.xml in the AppData folder.

So please, after cleaning, be sure you do have only the *primary* profiles.xml in "c:\program files\avstodvd\SubtitleCreator\data" and no *secondary*profiles.xml "C:\Documents and Settings\youruser\Local Settings\Application Data\SubtitleCreator" (in previous message I posted the wrong path: there is also "\Local Settings\")

:)

Bye

31st July 2008, 13:18

So please, after cleaning, be sure you do have only the *primary* profiles.xml in "c:\program files\avstodvd\SubtitleCreator\data" and no *secondary*profiles.xml "C:\Documents and Settings\youruser\Local Settings\Application Data\SubtitleCreator" (in previous message I posted the wrong path: there is also "\Local Settings\")

That was it, once I had edited that file also, the subs were as I wanted, thanks again MrC. I also used the menu creation for the first time using 3 titles, the result was great. One request! could you add png files to the list of usable image files. I tend to use these for background menu image as it is the default of vlc player & to me seems better than jpg.

Thanks in advance.

MrC

31st July 2008, 16:48

That was it, once I had edited that file also, the subs were as I wanted, thanks again MrC. I also used the menu creation for the first time using 3 titles, the result was great. One request! could you add png files to the list of usable image files. I tend to use these for background menu image as it is the default of vlc player & to me seems better than jpg.

Thanks in advance.

Great about subs! ;)

About png files, I am sorry but VB6 does not support them... :rolleyes:
Btw, AVStoDVD could load the png, convert it to bmp (with AviSynth) and then use the bmp. Will put in ToDo list.

;)

Bye

rendez2k

6th August 2008, 16:53

Three minor issues with latest Alpha. Making the DVD menu 2 rows across caused the thumbnails to go too high, putting them over the title. Secondly, after burning with ImgBurn, AVStoDVD always reports burning failed even though it completed. Not a big issue. And last, one slightly annoying thing is that if I edit the titles how I want them then make a change to the menu the titles reset and I have to re-edit them.

Any updates on new versions :D

MrC

6th August 2008, 21:42

Making the DVD menu 2 rows across caused the thumbnails to go too high, putting them over the title.

Should be fixed in next release. I have made some work to optimize automatic thumbs disposition.

Secondly, after burning with ImgBurn, AVStoDVD always reports burning failed even though it completed. Not a big issue.

Indeed, it is not little. Did you have same problem with previous releases? I have made no changes to burning check section... :confused:
A log file could help to understand the problem.

And last, one slightly annoying thing is that if I edit the titles how I want them then make a change to the menu the titles reset and I have to re-edit them.

Yes, it is supposed that first you choose template and then you edit it. ;) If I remember correctly, TDA (surely a good benchmark) works in the same way.

Any updates on new versions :D

Well, before your report, I was planning to release a new alpha tomorrow... It should be last alpha: I would like to release 2.1.0 "Final" within days and then go on vacation for some time.

;)

Bye

rendez2k

6th August 2008, 22:48

MrC

7th August 2008, 07:58

From http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1167594#post1167594

I like the menu creation its really what I wanted in all in one encoder. Except that its only in widescreen (what about fullscreen :) ), maybe you could also include a generic black background. You should make the advanced settings more universal, instead of having to have to edit them for each video. Is there anyway I could change the bitrate to lower than 2500 so I can include more video, HC does exceptionally well at lower bitrates. Also the dc precision should probably be 9, not 8... Otherwise Mr.C very good job I like the app. One last thing can I replace muxman with the latest version?

I'd be also happy to beta test it throughly, Im already running one right now!

4:3 aspect ratio: I had a similar discussion privately with Sir Dydimus and he had your opinion. IMO 4:3 is becoming obsolete. I don't know if the effort (take care of vertical height, new highlight masks, new templates, etc.) is worthy... let's wait for other users opinions.

When you say "advanced settings", do you refer to Title Edit window? General settings can be set in 'Settings' (see icon on the toolbar), title settings can be changed in 'Title Edit'.

Right now, no way to reduce minimum avg bitrate below 2500 kbps. If you want to put more material on a DVD you could make a "larger" DVD with AVStoDVD and then shrink it with DVDShrink. But stay updated with next releases... ;)

You can surely overwrite Muxman.exe 0.15R with 0.16.6. I did not update it mainly because I really do not like the annoying new splash msgbox...

;)

Bye

MrC

7th August 2008, 08:26

I only tried the DVD writing in the alphas. I'll need to run another test to get the log file. What it might be, is that I have 2 DVD writers. I know a least once I put blank media in my other drive and changed this actually in ImgBurn. It may have caused AVS to think it hadn't burnt?

No, it should not. DVD burning completion check is very simple: if the file [drive:]\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO exists and its size is more than 0 then burning is considered successful, otherwise not. A possible cause of "fake fail" is if you toggle on the ImgBurn GUI option to eject DVD after burning.

And, it may be the case with TDA but I want AVS to be better :D

Thanks for the high opinion, but, you know, TDA is a commercial sw with a team of professional programmers behind. AVStoDVD is only a poor open source GUI with only one amateur programmer... well, it is not true: there are also Doom9 supporter guys! :D ;)

Joking apart, your help is very appreciated.

:)

Bye

rendez2k

7th August 2008, 08:49

The only options I've got set in ImgBurn are do not eject after burn and verify - maybe enough to upset AVS?

gizzin

7th August 2008, 09:51

MrC

7th August 2008, 10:37

The only options I've got set in ImgBurn are do not eject after burn and verify - maybe enough to upset AVS?

Will check if "verify" is an issue.

;)

Bye

MrC

7th August 2008, 10:45

I can almost guarantee you that people will say 4:3 menu. Most people don't have widescreen tvs because they are generally the bigger screen tvs. A 16:9 menu however doesn't look that bad on a 4:3 screen. I wouldn't concern yourself with the menu system its great!

Ok. Btw, people with 4:3 TV will surely buy a 16:9 TV next time. ;)

One thing I noticed though is the text overlaps the thumbnails, if theres too much text?

I would leave user to adjust that. It would be quite simple to automatically check if there is object overlapping, but how to manage it? Move obects? Which one? And where?

When I mean advanced settings, I meant HC advanced options like lumgain, you should have the choice of making the settings universal or for each video.

That would mean put HCenc advanced settings as default choice in 'Settings'. Will think about it.

I also noticed that the playback has small stutters in it also but wouldn't that be due to muxman?

Really? For every encoded DVDs? If true it would be a big issue! I moved from DVDAuthor to Muxman to avoid stuttering... :scared:

;)

Bye

rendez2k

7th August 2008, 10:53

I agree with MrC - 4:3 menus are of little use, but thats just my opinion! On another matter, will there be options to change the highlight colour and type in the future? Maybe option to highlight just the border of the image or the text? Also, will it be possible to alter the frame thats been captured by hand? I know theres percentage options for the frame, but it doesn't always produce perfect results!

MrC

7th August 2008, 16:39

MrC

7th August 2008, 16:55

Available AVStoDVD 2.1.0 Alpha 080807 (http://avstodvd.googlepages.com/AVStoDVD_210Alpha080807_NoInstall.7z).

Change log (since last Alpha):

- Some bugs fixed
- Added Motion Menu (animated thumbs)
- Added possibility to lock label properties change and to anchor thumbs labels to thumbs
- Added drag and drop of DVD Menu Editor items
- Improved Main form GUI
- Revised bitrate calculation routine
- ImgBurn updated to 2.4.2.0

Except for bugfixing (if any), 2.1.0 "Final" will be the same.

:)

Bye

rendez2k

7th August 2008, 17:55

Good work! I'll be giving it a full test shortly!

From my limited test - for future versions the ability to see the motion menu in the preview would be nice and some kind of snap to grid or alignment feature for moving the thumbnails round. But it really is superb! I'll feedback later about any further issues....

Sir Didymus

7th August 2008, 19:26

Compliments for the new release!
I will test it as soon as possible...

4:3 aspect ratio: I had a similar discussion privately with Sir Dydimus and he had your opinion. IMO 4:3 is becoming obsolete. I don't know if the effort (take care of vertical height, new highlight masks, new templates, etc.) is worthy... let's wait for other users opinions.

Hem... Didymus, please...

Well, yes, I confirm my dream is to see the complete support in AVStoDVD for all of the possible AR: 4:3, ws+lb, ws+ps, ws+lb+ps...

Of course this would imply a significant additional implementation effort from your side, and everybody agree that the 4:3 format is becoming obsolete...

But there are also other good reasons (both of theoric and of very practical nature) for asking it... Maybe I will give some further comment on the matter in the future...

In the meanwhile, let's see if other users have their own opinion on the matter...

Cheers,
SD

ricardo.santos

7th August 2008, 21:37

MrC thanks for keeping improving AVStoDVD, just tested it twice, with 2 and 3 clips and worked perfectly, no errors.

2 suggestions/requests:
would it be possible for AVStoDVD to have a default subtitle language like it has for audio on OPTIONS>>>SETTINGS>>>AUTHORING/BURNING ?

Any chance of making different starting points for the menu motion thumbs? I record tv shows and and if i put 3 videos they all start with the same show intro in the dvd menu, it works, but doesnt look good eheheheheh.

Keep up the good work with AVStoDVD.

rendez2k

7th August 2008, 21:43

Any chance of making different starting points for the menu motion thumbs?

Did you can change the thumb offset % in the menu options? Try a higher number than the default 10%

Edit: just noticed this only works with static menus!

rendez2k

7th August 2008, 21:59

MrC

7th August 2008, 22:26

Hem... Didymus, please...

:eek: I'm very sorry!!! Imperdonabile!

But there are also other good reasons (both of theoric and of very practical nature) for asking it... Maybe I will give some further comment on the matter in the future...

Please, go ahead. You know I appreciate a lot your opinion and suggestions. And not only as BatchMux developer...

;)

Bye

MrC

7th August 2008, 22:31

would it be possible for AVStoDVD to have a default subtitle language like it has for audio on OPTIONS>>>SETTINGS>>>AUTHORING/BURNING ?

Good suggestion. Will put in ToDo list ;)

Any chance of making different starting points for the menu motion thumbs? I record tv shows and and if i put 3 videos they all start with the same show intro in the dvd menu, it works, but doesnt look good eheheheheh.

My goal is to add the possibility to select start and end point of motion thumbs. Customizable for each title. It needs some work, but it should not be a big effort.

:)

Bye

MrC

7th August 2008, 22:34

Just found a serious error: the motion menu won't on my Panasonic. The highlight just flicks very quickly on the first frame and you can't select anything. However, it works fine on my Philips. Any ideas?

Do you mean external DVD player or PC DVD drive? And what about static menu?

Do you still get the error message after burning?

Bye

rendez2k

7th August 2008, 22:38

Its standalone players (tried in PowerDVD and that also worked fine). Static menus have always worked fine with previous betas but not yet retested with latest version. The menu plays but I cannot select anything!

Burning completed fine with latest beta.

ricardo.santos

8th August 2008, 00:38

The menu plays but I cannot select anything!

i used mediaplayer classic and vlc and it works here.

Good suggestion. Will put in ToDo list ;)

My goal is to add the possibility to select start and end point of motion thumbs. Customizable for each title. It needs some work, but it should not be a big effort.
Bye

thanks

Sir Didymus

8th August 2008, 07:53

@rendez2k

For the DVD failing to play with your Panasonic, I am very interested to get a look to the following files:
- the BatchMux.ini file
- the mxp file created by BatchMux
- the log file produced by MuxMan

Could you place these files in a zip archive and sent it to sir_didimus (at) libero (dot) it ?

rendez2k

8th August 2008, 07:57

As I have the temp files set to auto delete in AVS, I assume they are all gone? I can re-run the project today if it will help?

MrC

8th August 2008, 08:24

As I have the temp files set to auto delete in AVS, I assume they are all gone? I can re-run the project today if it will help?

Yes, please. Temp storage folder can be set in 'Settings'/'Paths'.

Bye

gizzin

8th August 2008, 09:14

A new version already testing away!

Sir Didymus

8th August 2008, 14:31

...I can re-run the project today if it will help?

I have something that is worth to test...

1. Run again your project - without the removal of the temporary files - and double check (with a rewritable media...) that you can repeat the problem;

2. Open with a text editor the file BatchMux.mxp, and find the line "Select End Time=00:00:00:00". Change this line with: "Select End Time=-1". No spaces before and after the "=". Save the file.

3. Launch MuxMan and load the project you have just modified in the step 2 above. Start!

4. Burn again on a rewritable, and report the results...

Your help is very appreciated...

Cheers,
SD

rendez2k

8th August 2008, 14:34

I have something that is worth to test...

1. Run again your project - without the removal of the temporary files - and double check (with a rewritable media...) that you can repeat the problem;

2. Open with a text editor the file BatchMux.mxp, and find the line "Select End Time=00:00:00:00". Change this line with: "Select End Time=-1". No spaces before and after the "=". Save the file.

3. Launch MuxMan and load the project you have just modified in the step 2 above. Start!

4. Burn again on a rewritable, and report the results...

Your help is very appreciated...

Cheers,
SD

Not a problem: I'll do it as soon as I get in tonight and post the results back!

rendez2k

8th August 2008, 18:50

Sir Didymus: the first test failed again, but changing that line and re-running through muxman was a success - all is working!

MrC: Will being able to select the start point for motion thumbnails be included in the next/final version or is that a big job?

Sir Didymus

8th August 2008, 19:38

Sir Didymus: the first test failed again, but changing that line and re-running through muxman was a success - all is working!

That's very, very good to know! Thanks for your fundamental testing!

You have discovered a little nasty bug of BatchMux; unfortunately the (definitive) fix of the issue requires to wait for the next release of BatchMux [coming soon, within August, supporting some multipage menues]...

To MrC: in the meanwhile, a "quick&dirty" patch can be applied by including in the BatchMux.ini file one line, in the section related to the menu segment, of the form:

-[Segi]hilbset 01:00:00:00

This (both for static and motion menues) will introduce a timeout of one hour for the button selection end time... It's not a clean solution, but it should allow to better comply with the "Panasonic" players...

:)

MrC

8th August 2008, 20:55

MrC: Will being able to select the start point for motion thumbnails be included in the next/final version or is that a big job?

Not a very big job, but I would like to do it without hurry. We have to leave some innovations for release 2.1.1....

;)

Bye

MrC

8th August 2008, 20:58

To MrC: in the meanwhile, a "quick&dirty" patch can be applied by including in the BatchMux.ini file one line, in the section related to the menu segment, of the form:

-[Segi]hilbset 01:00:00:00

This (both for static and motion menues) will introduce a timeout of one hour for the button selection end time... It's not a clean solution, but it should allow to better comply with the "Panasonic" players...

Got it. But what should happen after timeout?

Bye

Sir Didymus

8th August 2008, 21:19

... Well, it's just a temporary patch, and I said quick&dirty...

When 1 hour expires the menu continues, but the buttons will disappear...

If you think there is even one single possibility that some fool person is looking at the same menu for more than 1 hour, you can also set the hilight button selection end time to 1 hour and five minutes...

:cool:

... or more ...

MrC

9th August 2008, 07:50

If you think there is even one single possibility that some fool person is looking at the same menu for more than 1 hour, you can also set the hilight button selection end time to 1 hour and five minutes...

:cool:

... or more ...

LOL

Something like an easter egg...

;)

Bye

gizzin

11th August 2008, 15:18

Will you ever consider not letting the bitrate be restricted too only 2500kb??

11th August 2008, 23:58

MrC

15th August 2008, 13:29

I added my own background & changed the menu title & title labels(2) colour(Blue), the results were perfect. On my next project I added a new background image & changed the menu title & title labels to red, when I revert to preview mode the titles all show as blue, as in my last project, when I go back to edit mode they show as red again? On the completed project the labels were blue, not the desired red. Possible bug, or am I missing something? I'm using 080722.

Thanks In Advance.

Yes, it is a bug in converting colour format from RGB (used in VB) to HEX (used in Sub Station Alpha 4+ to generate text in menu).

As a matter of fact, I have discovered that ASS supports also RGB format... so bugfixing is very easy. :)

Thanks for the report.

If you are making some "generic" menu templates, why don't you send them to me? I could add them to AVStoDVD standard templates library.

;)

Bye

15th August 2008, 17:29

Yes, it is a bug in converting colour format from RGB (used in VB) to HEX (used in Sub Station Alpha 4+ to generate text in menu).

As a matter of fact, I have discovered that ASS supports also RGB format... so bugfixing is very easy. :)

Thanks for the report.

If you are making some "generic" menu templates, why don't you send them to me? I could add them to AVStoDVD standard templates library.

;)

Bye

I was using VLC snapshots from a ww1 documentary series I am backing up, as menu background image, so it was specific rather than generic, not really a usable template for anything else. Glad to hear the bug is easily fixed.

Cheers!

ummus

20th August 2008, 18:29

Sir, I load a DVD Rip file to convert into DVD file. But AVStoDVD limits the file to 4GB instead of 4.7GB and converts around 80% of the video. How to do complete convertion?

MrC

20th August 2008, 22:42

Sir, I load a DVD Rip file to convert into DVD file. But AVStoDVD limits the file to 4GB instead of 4.7GB and converts around 80% of the video. How to do complete convertion?

What do you mean with "DVD Rip" file?

Could you post here or send by email the log file generated by AVStoDVD?

:)

Bye

ummus

22nd August 2008, 09:22

DVD Rip file means .AVI file (Full video file)

rendez2k

22nd August 2008, 09:24

Something you've created yourself or downloaded? Two things spring to mind. Is the file damaged and the 4gb limit sounds like you're drives possibly formatted as FAT32?

ummus

22nd August 2008, 09:34

The AVI files are downloaded and my drives are formatted as FAT 32.

rendez2k

22nd August 2008, 09:45

FAT32 only allows files 4gb in size max. AVStoDVD will be converting the avi to a larger file! You need to use an NTFS formatted drive.

ummus

22nd August 2008, 10:06

Thank you for your kind information and help.

MrC

22nd August 2008, 13:25

If your file system is FAT32, you have another possiblity: look at AVStoDVD toolbar and click on 'DVD Size'/'Custom Size'. Type "3900". Start your project.

I hope the file you have downloaded is not breaking forum rule n° 6 (http://forum.doom9.org/forum-rules.htm)...

;)

Bye

MrC

22nd August 2008, 15:48

AVStoDVD release 2.1.0 available to download (http://avstodvd.googlepages.com/home)

Change log (since release 2.0.0):

- Added simple DVD Menu editing and building (static and motion customizable thumbnails)
- Added multiple file selection in 'Add' Common Dialog window
- Added autoselect Audio and Subs files if they have same name as Video
- Added 'HCenc Advanced Configuration' option (AQ, Lumgain, Matrix, Profile) in 'Title Edit'/'Video'
- Added an option to quickly lock the Video Encoding Profiles
- Added 'Custom DVD Size' storing
- Added main AVStoDVD form position storing upon exit
- Added 'Restore default Settings' in main form menu
- Improved bitrate calculation routine
- Improved use of BatchMux (many thanks to Sir Didymus for his help)
- Improved use of API BrowseForFolder
- Improved log activity
- Removed internal check on DVD drive status before burning (ImgBurn does the stuff by itself)
- ImgBurn updated to 2.4.2.0
- MediaInfo updated to 0.7.7.4
- BatchMux updated to 1.1

*Note for alpha debugger*
There are no major changes since last 2.1.0 Alpha. Only bugs fixing.

:)

Bye

rendez2k

22nd August 2008, 21:14

Great!! I'm away till Monday but I'll be testing when I get back :thanks:

ricardo.santos

22nd August 2008, 22:16

Hi MrC

Tested it twice with 3 and 4 videos, static and motion customizable thumbnails working fine here :)

Good work!

Sir Didymus

26th August 2008, 11:55

Sir Didymus: the first test failed again, but changing that line and re-running through muxman was a success - all is working!

Just want to clarify that the definitive bugfix for the problem you have reported has been implemented in the release 1.2 of BatchMux.exe. I admit that the related statement in the short changelog (BatchMux authoring thread) is someway cryptical on the matter...

I kindly ask Mrc, for the next releases of AVStoDVD, to remove the "temporary fix" consisting in the long timeout for buttons selection end time...

:-)

>> Originally Posted by Sir Didymus
>> But there are also other good reasons (both of theoric and of very practical nature) for asking it...
>> Maybe I will give some further comment on the matter in the future...

Please, go ahead. You know I appreciate a lot your opinion and suggestions. And not only as BatchMux developer...

;)

Bye

Well thanks for your kind words! So, after some time spent on the development of BatchMux 1.2, let me make some further comment on the point of the A/R of the menues...

It seems to me that one of the "best practice rules of good DVD authoring" should be discussed here:

never never never author a DVD if you know in advance it will fail to play on some standalones...

The point is not about the obsolescence of the 4:3 TV sets. We agree on this. Of course we should also state that nowadays movies are shot in a large variety of different A/R - so, in any case, the anamorphic format with 16:9 A/R is NOT the reference format; in addition the amount of available assets or new TV movies that are continuing to be shot only in 4:3 format is still huge...

The point is that the 4:3 A/R is THE standard for the TV sets: both 4:3 TV and 16:9 need nothing additional to display 4:3 movies. These movies are always displayed in Normal mode, without scaling or cropping the pictures in any way.

On the contrary, 16:9 movies can be showed properly on a ws TV, but there is the need of having some additional information for the standard televisions, since a 4:3 TV requires either letterboxing the picture or cropping and enlarging it horizontally (P/S).

Let me use an analogy to describe the problem from a different perspective. The standard for the transmission of the TV signal is still keeping separate the luminance and the chroma of the picture, in such a way that the B/W TV sets (that doesn't exist any more) are in any case enabled to properly display color pictures by ignoring the chroma information. Here the fact that B/W TV are totally obsolete is a matter of fact, but if you want to broadcast a TV signal, you have to comply with the standard, and prepare your TV signal in order for it to be properly seen on a B/W TV...

Let's go back to AVStoDVD.

Please consider that 4:3 menus will look not at all bad on ws TV. Really, if you are skeptical on the matter, you may easily make some tests by yourself: they look perfectly OK. If you think you need to keep limited to 1 the number of groups of buttons in the the AVStoDVD menu pages, this is the choice to take. It has the additional advantage that all of the available 36 buttons can be used in each menu page - hem... even thought some human factor experts will tell you that authoring a DVD menu with more than 7/9 buttons per page is another horrible practice...

Authoring a DVD with 16:9 menues having just 1 group of buttons in the menu pages is not an option, since it breaks the above "good authoring" rule. Look at the following nightmare scenario: I prepare a nice DVD with AVStoDVD, I watch the movie on my PC, then I quickly check everything is OK on my standalone. After these positive double checks, I bring the DVD (relaxed and happy) to the house of my girlfriend with the idea of having a nice evening together. And the menu is not working on her standalone... That's very bad, isn't it? She will tell me that I did it by purpose, I have no way to start the movie with other buttons on the remote controller, and the evening may easily end in a disaster...

Authoring the DVD with 16:9 menues and 2 groups of buttons in the menu pages is the way most commercial DVD are authored. Normally the two supported A/R are widescreen and automatic letterbox. As alternative, the DVD may be prepared supporting widescreen and automatic P/S. The complexity (and the number) of the assets to prepare is doubled respect to the 4:3 use case, but the overall benefits (quality and guarantee that all standalone will properly display the menu) make this option the most popular. 18 buttons per page are available for each menu page.

Authoring the DVD with 16:9 menues and 3 groups of buttons in the most complete way of authoring a DVD menu. Here the display on widescreen TV set is guaranteed, and the possibility of looking at the menu with letterboxed or P/S A/R is left as an option to the users, that normally have the possibility to set their preference in the setup of their standalones. The complexity (and the number) of the assets to prepare is the maximum; also the number of buttons per page of the menus is limited to 12, so this option (which is in any case not rare to find on commercial DVDs) is not the most popular on the market.

Of course, the best of the best would be that the users of AVStoDVD were enabled to choose among one of the above possibilities; that would be really a distinctive feature, but it would most probably imply some significant complications in the GUI and the programming of your excellent application...

Well, sorry for my long comments... I just wanted to state with some detail my point of view...

Again, please accept my compliments for the development of AVStoDVD, and feel free to ignore (in part or in total) all of the above considerations... :-(

Cheers,
SD

MrC

26th August 2008, 13:48

I kindly ask Mrc, for the next releases of AVStoDVD, to remove the "temporary fix" consisting in the long timeout for buttons selection end time...

Will do. ;)

About menus.

Right now AVStoDVD can only produce 16:9 A/R menus and they includes 2 buttons groups: WS and Letterbox, the first for 16:9 TV and the latter for 4:3 TV. So there should not be any compatibility risk. I did not include PanScan (and I do not plan to include it) because I do not like cropping background, and maybe thumbnails. Btw compatibility with any TV is fulfilled and if a guy wants to delight his (low- or hi-tech) girlfriend with a movie encoded with AVStoDVD, he (they) should be pleased enough. ;)

I fully agree with the purpose to follow standards. And I agree that having the possibility to create a 4:3 A/R menu can be useful, mainly when the DVD content is encoded as 4:3 A/R.
That's means I will add 4:3 A/R menus to AVStoDVD, but not ASAP, because it implies a deep revision of DVD Menu Editor form.

Stay tuned. I hope to continue developing step by step AVStoDVD with suggestions and feat request of you all. Unitl high definition will put an end to it.

:)

Bye

Sir Didymus

26th August 2008, 15:29

...Right now AVStoDVD can only produce 16:9 A/R menus and they includes 2 buttons groups: WS and Letterbox, the first for 16:9 TV and the latter for 4:3 TV....

Great! I was not aware about this!
I worked too much on BatchMux in the last weeks: in the alpha release of AVStoDVD I tested just one group of buttons was present!

...That's means I will add 4:3 A/R menus to AVStoDVD, but not ASAP, because it implies a deep revision of DVD Menu Editor form...

Excellent! No pressure from my side...

Stay tuned. I hope to continue developing step by step AVStoDVD with suggestions and feat request of you all. Unitl high definition will put an end to it.

:)

Bye

OK! Let see... It will take some time, IMHO, for hi def to become the mainstream...

brianhj

27th August 2008, 01:33

gizzin

27th August 2008, 01:46

mine wont retain the settings properly, and it encodes with quenc 1pass instead of hc 2pass.

MrC

27th August 2008, 07:57

I load my avi and change all my settings but when I hit start it gives me the "progress status window but immediately says "Process aborted!" and i hit close to return to the main window. In the log window at the bottom it says "Process aborted. Error code: 75 - Path/File access error"

It does this with any file. What path or file is it having trouble accessing???

Hi brianhj and welcome.

Some troubleshooting ideas:

1. Click on 'Settings'/'System'/'Software Info'. Is there anything red?
2. Do 'Source Titles' or 'Output Folder' have non-standard chars?
3. Does 'Preview Output' works?
4. If you kept the log file generated by AVStoDVD, please send it to me by email or PM.

;)

Bye

rendez2k

27th August 2008, 07:59

Just a quick note - my menu issue on my Panasonic issue isn't fixed in the final version.

MrC

27th August 2008, 08:07

mine wont retain the settings properly, and it encodes with quenc 1pass instead of hc 2pass.

Take a look at following posts and let me know if they solve your issue:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1161133#post1161133

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1156495#post1156495

;)

Bye

MrC

27th August 2008, 08:10

Just a quick note - my menu issue on my Panasonic issue isn't fixed in the final version.

That was my fear. I will move ASAP to BatchMux 1.2 and try to send you a patch. Thanks for report.

;)

Bye

PatchWorKs

27th August 2008, 10:14

rendez2k

27th August 2008, 11:15

So if ImgBurn can't be distributed, could AVStoDVD just check to see if its installed on the system and give you the download link if not? I only trust ImgBurn!

MrC

27th August 2008, 13:08

As already posted in the SF-project Tracker (http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2073447&group_id=197340&atid=961076), distributing ImgBurn (that is free but not open source) together with GPL-licensed code violates the license itself. :eek: :scared:

So I strongly suggest you (and non only you...) to switch from ImgBurn to an open source compatible burning tool:

- http://freshmeat.net/projects/cdrecord/
- http://sourceforge.net/projects/cdrdao/

I'm sure you can grab some inspirations from:

- http://cdrtfe.sourceforge.net/
- http://infrarecorder.sourceforge.net/

Hope that helps !!! :helpful:

nota: sei italiano ?

Thanks for the info. I have taken a look to your GLP sw list and I cannot find MuxMan, BatchMux and HCenc. Does it mean that I have to find other GPL tools to replace the above to mantain the GLP licence on AVStoDVD?

If I cannot find any suitable tools, what kind of licence can I declare? Freeware? Generic open source? Let me know because I'm not an expert in that matter...

:confused:

Bye

P.S. Sì sono italiano

Sir Didymus

27th August 2008, 13:58

Concerning BatchMux, I confirm the tool is completely free and freely redistributable as an executable code without any problem. If you want, you can also freely patch, modify or hacker its executable code without any complaint from the side to the author (me).

However it is not possible to distribute its source code, since most part of its content is deeply related to the knowledge and the DVD information which is taken from the web site of MPUCoder, whose access is restricted and protected by an explicit non disclosure agreement.

This situation (free availability and possibility of redistribution of the executable, but unavailability of the source code) holds also for MuxMan and HCEnc, making these programs incompatible with the terms of the GNU GPL licence.

If you want to keep the GPL licence for AVStoDVD, I recommend to remove these programs from the installation and/or distribution packages of AVDtoDVD, and to give just instructions/links about where to download or to look for them.

Other programs (DVD-RB, for instance) are distributed outside the domain of GNU-GPL. In this case there is the freedom of redistributing other close-source programs and packages, and you also may choose to include or not the source code in the distridution...

Cheers,
SD

27th August 2008, 19:10

I for one have never used the burning facility from within AVStoDVD, I have ImgBurn installed independently, so maybe you could add it to the 'software requirements' list, possibly also any other software there may be issues with, as already stated by Sir Didymus. This is too good a project to be halted by 'Red Tape'. On a different note I would be more than happy to make a donation to AVStoDVD but as I don't use credit cards(Past problems) this is difficult, if anyone has a suggestion re this please reply. Keep up the outstanding work MrC.

Stay Lucky.

MrC

28th August 2008, 07:43

@SD, wg

thanks for the contributions on this delicate matter.

My opinion is that if I cannot select a alternative and appropriate Open Source domain (there are really a lot of them (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source_license#OSI_approved_licenses)), I will move away from SourceForge and continue to distribute AVStoDVD as freeware on VideoHelp/GooglePages.

In its early days, AVStoDVD was not equipped with all external software needed. Users had to select them in a Settings Tab. The very big "problem" is that, luckily, those software are often updated and, just for example, HCenc 0.86 may be not compatible with AVStoDVD 7.1.9. I can guarantee (99%) that AVStoDVD is fully compatible with the sw releases shipped with it, not newer or older.

I thought about another possible solution: split AVStoDVD into 2 packages: the first one (GPL and hosted by SourceForge) with only "raw" AVStoDVD, the second one (hosted by GooglePages) containing the collection of required external sw. But I think it would be a little bit messy and confused....

Any ideas and suggestion is welcome.

:)

Bye

ricardo.santos

30th August 2008, 22:22

googlepages will shut down in December, being replaced by googlesites.

There are so many free hosting places to distribute AVS2DVD, ripbot264 has been using mediafire instead of sourceforge.

Theres also services that will distribute avs2dvd for you through several free hosting sites and give back the links for all of them.

for example:
http://www.uploadjockey.com

test link:
http://www.uploadjockey.com/download/9611481/test.zip

PatchWorKs

31st August 2008, 01:24

Well, sorry (or not?) to start this "flame"... I hope it will not cause any loosing.
Open Source (http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd) softwares are really a cultural treasure.

BTW nowdays (in the communication era) we "live" in a software bazaar.

PD, FreeWare, ShareWare, Open Source (SS too !), Closed Source, EULA, own... a license jungle !

I believe that open source developers should choose an appropriate license (http://www.opensource.org/licenses/category) for their packages (and I would also consider Patents and Royalties for this kind of applications... in the second stage).

GPL is a great freedom license, but you must reverse your rights so keep it in mind; and trust me, SourceForge is THE right place for you/your project (rapids**-like links tastes a bit of warez to me).

So i believe that you simply need an alternative (the same approach that borned the open source philosophy - @ 12:50th minute (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7707585592627775409)) and, fortunally, there are tons of !

As suggested, you could use GPL-compatible burning tools or, even better, you could start some kind of collaboration with other projects to obtain what you need.

Or implement an online update tool (WGET (http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/) ?) that retrieves the "GPL-incompatible pack" from a PPF-CDN (http://www.simplecdn.com/help/ppf-cdn) service.

Hope that helps !

Marco Ravich

MrC

31st August 2008, 09:34

@ricardo.santos

Thanks for the info about uploading sites. I think they can be very useful when you have to share one "standalone" file. But they are not suitable when trying to distribute a full software, including News, Tutorials, Downloads and, maybe, Forums. Right now, SourceForge has all those features and GooglePages (I hope GoogleSites too) has some of them.

@PatchWorKs

Unfortunately the licence problem is not limited to ImgBurn. There are other 2 "structural" tools, HCenc and MuxMan, not having a OS license.
I hope your wide knowledge about OS matter will help suggesting me if a suitable OS license (http://www.opensource.org/licenses/category) exists. I mean: a license which allows me to keep freeware sw inside AVStoDVD installer package. Thanks in advance.

Btw, I wonder how a well known and more famous all-in-one tool like DVDFlick, which includes ImgBurn in its package, has a GPL license and is hosted by SourceForge... another "bad guy"?

;)

Bye

PatchWorKs

31st August 2008, 11:06

Unfortunately the licence problem is not limited to ImgBurn. There are other 2 "structural" tools, HCenc and MuxMan

So do you need a dvd authoring tool ? A muxer ? Anything else ?

The suggestion is to deeply digg SF.net (http://sourceforge.net/search/?type_of_search=soft&words=dvd+authoring) for poject like yours and "legally stole" others' methods (that's the beauty of open source !).

Even better (to me) is to adopt an universal tool as a backend (MediaCoder (http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/) of course) that provides you the tools you need.

You don't need to change the license ('cause the problem is not your one, but the others' ones) you need to change tools your program uses.

gizzin

1st September 2008, 02:19

can you please, please remove the bitrate restriction, or tell me a way of doing it.

MrC

1st September 2008, 08:24

can you please, please remove the bitrate restriction, or tell me a way of doing it.

Right now there is no way. But, since AVStoDVD is somehow Open Source, you can take the source code, modify it and compile your own build. ;)

Joking apart, I am working on it. I will send you (email?) a 2.1.1 Alpha "gizzin build" as soon as possible.

:)

Bye

MrC

1st September 2008, 16:04

Following the link gizzin (and all others guys interested in) can find a very preliminary 2.1.1 release (http://avstodvd.googlepages.com/AVStoDVD_211_Alpha_build_for_gizzin.7z).

Download the 7z file and unpack the files (exe and history) into AVStoDVD folder.

Enjoy minimum bitrate customization!

;)

Bye

rendez2k

1st September 2008, 16:18

Thanks Mr C - is the Panasonic menu issue fixed in this version?

MrC

1st September 2008, 17:10

Thanks Mr C - is the Panasonic menu issue fixed in this version?

Not yet. BatchMux 1.2 is not yet supported.

:)

Bye

rendez2k

1st September 2008, 17:30

Arh, i thought it was something that could be tweaked in the settings file as a quick fix for now

2. Open with a text editor the file BatchMux.mxp, and find the line "Select End Time=00:00:00:00". Change this line with: "Select End Time=-1". No spaces before and after the "=". Save the file.

gizzin

1st September 2008, 18:30

thanks mrc as soon as its approved I will test away, !!!

2nd September 2008, 00:53

I know of 3 other projects(And there may be more) that use most, if not all of the software bundled with AVStoDVD, yet when I check their forums(And they are certainly not hard to find) not a word from 'Patchworks' re rights issues. What gives?

gizzin

2nd September 2008, 06:35

patchworks, mediacoder... what are you smoking?

Darksoul71

2nd September 2008, 08:23

@PatchWorKs:
I understand the motives for your posting but in general
I think this is counterproductive.

Searching for another burning / ISO tool just to fullfil GPL
requirements is a waste of time IMO.

Being a tool developer myself I would rather choose
- move away from sourceforge
- release my tool source under any license but not GPL

Investing time in anything else doesn´t help the tool
and hence doesn´t help the users.

The same thing goes for building two different packages
(GPL / Non-GPL) or developing a downloader for "Non GPL"
tools.

GPL is a great freedom license, but you must reverse your rights so keep it in mind; and trust me, SourceForge is THE right place for you/your project (rapids**-like links tastes a bit of warez to me).
SourceForge is only "the" right place if you are free to host your opensource tool
there without restrictions as long as it´s free and uses free tools.

Rapidshare, Megaupload and all the other "Webspaces" have not more
to do with warez as torrent, e-mule, etc.

When you want to distribute bigger files to a lot of people they are
simply an easy way without additional costs for the distributor.

Please don´t take this personal...it´s just my point of view !

@MrC:
If any problems arise on how you package AVS2DVD you simply should do
what I discribed above:
Switch to another license and (if neccessary) look out for a new hosting
site. Users are flexible... :)

Anything else is a waste of your valuable time which could be better invested in enhancing AVS2DVD.

Cheers,
D$

MrC

2nd September 2008, 08:26

Waiting for Doom9 approval...

Release 2.1.1 Alpha gizzin build (http://avstodvd.googlepages.com/AVStoDVD_211_Alpha_build_for_gizzin.7z)

@rendez2k

about Panasonic issue: it is not so easy. BatchMux creates the mxp file for MuxMan and then runs it immediately. There is no way to catch the mxp file at runtime, modify it and then launch MuxMan.
But, manually, you can do it:
1. Go to 'Settings'/'Misc' and toggle off 'Delete temporary process files' and 'Delete AVStoDVD working files'
2. Run your project
3. When finished go to AVStoDVD temp files folder and edit the mxp file
4. Open MuxMan and load the mxp. Run MuxMan.
5. (Optional) Clean up temp files folder and output folder

;)

Bye

gizzin

2nd September 2008, 17:57

When I hit start, I get the following error from HC.

ERROR, can't open dbs file, invalid path?

Darksoul71

2nd September 2008, 19:12

@gizzin:
HCEnc has currently a small parsing bug for lossless and dbs file settings.

@MrC: For a workaround look here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1162692&postcount=65

PatchWorKs

2nd September 2008, 19:17

patchworks, mediacoder... what are you smoking?
Nothing (at the moment).

But please motivate your sentence, so we can all understand why not...

Searching for another burning / ISO tool just to fullfil GPL requirements is a waste of time IMO.

Being a tool developer myself I would rather choose
- move away from sourceforge
- release my tool source under any license but not GPL

Investing time in anything else doesn´t help the tool
and hence doesn´t help the users.

The same thing goes for building two different packages
(GPL / Non-GPL) or developing a downloader for "Non GPL"
tools.
Well, then I don't understant why AVStoDVD is open source.

The simplest solution is to close the source right now (and prepare yourself to be sued by other closed source tools devs)... :devil:

Just point of views.

I would prefer to invest few hours to search alternatives.

Sir Didymus

2nd September 2008, 19:42

Well, then I don't understant why AVStoDVD is open source.

And I don't undestand your refusal to understand this simple and linear concept: that open source is characteristic of a piece of code, where the author is happy of showing and sharing all of the parts of his creative work. This has nothing to do with the licensing contraints of GPL. VobBlanker and PgcEdit are brilliant examples of topmost level tools, distributed outside the GPL domain, and whose code is open and freely available.

Also, many users are very happy about using some given closed source tools or components for objective technical reasons (or for subjective quality reasons). For these users the performance, the quality, or other reasons are more important than the availability of the source code.

Such reasons should be respected.

For these users the availability of the source code is simply not relevant/not interesting/not useful.

So, please try here to respect what other users like more.

Your point of view is clear and understood, but please now, let the author of DVD2AVS think about making his steps to understand what to do, without the pressure of further (little interesting) posts on the same licensing issue subject from your side.

Sorry for being so explicit, especially with a colleague from Italy.

Cheers,
SD

Darksoul71

2nd September 2008, 19:44

Well, then I don't understant why AVStoDVD is open source.
Because you want give other peoples the chance to look at your tool ?
:confused:

The simplest solution is to close the source right now (and prepare yourself to be sued by other closed source tools devs)...
You know the author of ImgBurn, do you ?
Not everyone is an enemy....

gizzin

2nd September 2008, 23:03

I completely missed answering those questions you asked. The Stuttering seemed to be related to me using directshowsource vs avisource. Directshowsource creates stuttering in the video, while avisource does not. So most likely its probably related to something on my end. Also, those post you told me to read didn't make no difference. None of the settings I set seem to retain themselves. Ie I set hc 2pass, it still just uses quenc. But if I edit every title it will use hc 2pass.

MrC

3rd September 2008, 08:30

...
Searching for another burning / ISO tool just to fullfil GPL
requirements is a waste of time IMO.

Being a tool developer myself I would rather choose
- move away from sourceforge
- release my tool source under any license but not GPL

Investing time in anything else doesn´t help the tool
and hence doesn´t help the users.
...

Thanks for your words, that I fully share. I will try to find another open source license compatible to AVStoDVD as it is now, and, if I will not find anything, I will move away from SourceForge.

:)

Bye

MrC

3rd September 2008, 08:49

When I hit start, I get the following error from HC.

ERROR, can't open dbs file, invalid path?

Download again the gizzin build (http://avstodvd.googlepages.com/AVStoDVD_211_Alpha_build_for_gizzin.7z). The error should be fixed.

I completely missed answering those questions you asked. The Stuttering seemed to be related to me using directshowsource vs avisource. Directshowsource creates stuttering in the video, while avisource does not. So most likely its probably related to something on my end. Also, those post you told me to read didn't make no difference. None of the settings I set seem to retain themselves. Ie I set hc 2pass, it still just uses quenc. But if I edit every title it will use hc 2pass.

About Video encoding Profiles. Maybe you have not understand the purpose of 'Settings'/'Encoding' page. That page is used to customize AVStoDVD default functioning. AVStoDVD automatically chooses the video encoder (QuEnc or HCenc) looking at the bitrate of output DVD.
In the 'Settings'/'Encoding' you can see 3 'Setup Video Profiles'. If you select one of them, you can customize the bitrate range associated to that profile (see on the right: bitrate numbers change, and are editable). You are NOT choosing that profile forever, that is not the purpose of this page.

AVStoDVD has these default (but customizable) settings:
BitRate from 2500 to 4500 -> HCenc (mode VBR 2pass)
BitRate from 4500 to 6000 -> HCenc (mode OPV 1pass)
BitRate from 6000 to 8500 -> QuEnc (mode CBR 1pass)

In 'Edit Title'/'Video' you can override above default settings by toggling off 'Auto Video Setup' and select your favorite encoder.

Btw, everything is explained in the Help section (press F1).

Got the general concept? I understand it can be a little confusing, but I believe it is a smart way to better use QuEnc&HCenc encoding capabilities.

;)

Bye

gizzin

4th September 2008, 00:50

AVStoDVD automatically chooses the video encoder (QuEnc or HCenc) looking at the bitrate of output DVD.

it makes sense now.

gizzin

4th September 2008, 05:18

Maybe support for aften as a ac3 encoder? Im running a test, I'll tell you how it goes in the morning.

PatchWorKs

4th September 2008, 11:26

that open source is characteristic of a piece of code, where the author is happy of showing and sharing all of the parts of his creative work. This has nothing to do with the licensing contraints of GPL. VobBlanker and PgcEdit are brilliant examples of topmost level tools, distributed outside the GPL domain, and whose code is open and freely available.
Of course, you can also use Publi Domain or MS-Shared Source if you want.

But if you want to stay in GPL domain you MUST follow it.

And no, i don't understand why some peoples uses closed/free softwares whan alternatives ARE available, sorry.

I also perfectly know that users don't cares about the legality of certain tools but developers should, IMHO.

BTW I always prefer freedom (and legality) over quality...

Darksoul71

4th September 2008, 12:06

@all:
Sorry for being off-topic again but this will be my last reply....
I promise :D

@PatchWorKs:

Of course, you can also use Publi Domain or MS-Shared Source if you want.
But if you want to stay in GPL domain you MUST follow it.

I agree ! Hence my comment to Mr. C to change his license if required.
Public Domain as you named it might be the best solution. In regard to
the sourceforge hosting I see no problems in using other hosting /
downloading places (e.g. Megaupload, Rapidshare, etc).

And no, i don't understand why some peoples uses closed/free softwares whan alternatives ARE available, sorry.

Your point of view.
Some / a lot peoples who develop free (whatever you interpret into the word here) software will mostly
want their software to work without using payware whenever possible. For me avoiding payware simply
translates to using available free software. Free does not neccessarily mean opensource. Personally
I do not care to much about source code availibility. Sometimes it would be nice to have access to
the sources to see how something was implemented or to fix the bug but in most of the times the purpose
I use a software for is so specific (e.g. video encoding, burning, etc) that I would rarley touch the
source code.

I also perfectly know that users don't cares about the legality of certain tools but developers should, IMHO.

Define legality ! By no means the GPL is a law. IMO AVS2DVD is perfectly legaly but may not
be perfectly follow each word of the GPL. Quick solution: Do not use GPL !

BTW I always prefer freedom (and legality) over quality...

Your choice ! Not mine and at least not MrC´s choice.
Many open source tools I use have great quality but for some tasks freely available closed software
works better. Esp. in such a case as using ImgBurn Tool for ISO generation & burning.

@MrC:
This might be interesting in regard to software licenses:
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html

Esp. the part with "Non-copylefted free software"

Sir Didymus

4th September 2008, 12:39

And this will be my last post on the subject too.

Just wanted to state I am perfectly in line with the point of view already very well exposed by Darksoul71.
Also sorry for jeopardising the thread of MrC with this sort of little useful posts. I hope, and I recommend everybody to switch back on topic ASAP.

Of course, you can also use Publi Domain or MS-Shared Source if you want.

of course...

But if you want to stay in GPL domain you MUST follow it.

Agreed. You have already stated this many time, in a very insistent way. PLEASE GIVE THE AUTHOR OF AVS2DVD SOME LITTLE TIME TO BREATHE AND TO FIND SUITABLE ALTERNATIVES TO GPL!!! If you feel there are violations to the legality, to the forum rules, to the GPL licence, or to whatever else you like, please signal the issue to some moderators, to the GPL legal officers (if such agents exist), open new threads, go to the police, but please stop to bore all of us with your silly repetitions of the same point.

And no, i don't understand why some peoples uses closed/free softwares whan alternatives ARE available, sorry.

If you don't understand this, that's your problem. Other users have perfecly legal and valid reasons to make their choices about the tools they prefere. THESE REASONS SHOULD BE RESPECTED!!! My point of view is that the open source alternatives for burning and encoding and (especially) authoring are not providing technically and quality wise adequate performances, if compared to ImgBurn, HCEnc, MuxMan. That's my opinion and I don't like to discuss with you the technical reasons for my preferences.

I also perfectly know that users don't cares about the legality of certain tools but developers should, IMHO.

You are going totally off topic here. Nobody want to do anything illegal!!! The problem is that you are promoting the concept that only staying within GPL you are in the domain of the legality. That's totally wrong! Many other alternative exist, all perfectly legal.

BTW I always prefer freedom (and legality) over quality...

What is freedom?
GPL?
Lol...

Me prefere legality, freedom, and quality, where freedom is the freedom of not using the GPL stiker, if the associated constraints are limiting the quality I am looking for.

MrC

4th September 2008, 14:02

Now it does not make any sense to change "on the fly" AVStoDVD 2.1.0 license. With next release, available within few days, I will move to Public Domain. From http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html:

Public domain software is software that is not copyrighted. If the source code is in the public domain, that is a special case of non-copylefted free software, which means that some copies or modified versions may not be free at all.

In some cases, an executable program can be in the public domain but the source code is not available. This is not free software, because free software requires accessibility of source code. Meanwhile, most free software is not in the public domain; it is copyrighted, and the copyright holders have legally given permission for everyone to use it in freedom, using a free software license.

Public Domain license is accepted by SourceForge, so that AVStoDVD does not have to change host. And be sure I will always add (the orrible) source code of AVStoDVD. ;)

About Quality vs GPL quarrel, Darksoul71 and SD have just expressed my own opinion, I will add nothing else.

:)

Bye

MrC

4th September 2008, 14:09

Coming back to technical issues. Two questions to users:

1. Are there any solid reasons (quality, speed, compatibility, ...) to move from QuEnc to Aften as AC3 encoder?

2. Do you use AVStoDVD internal "Preview Clip" feature? Any problems? Somebody reported program crash or video/audio absence. I had some trouble with ffdshow nigthly builds, but using ffdshow stable releases, everything is ok.

:)

Bye

gizzin

4th September 2008, 19:26

I would say quality, speed, compatibly are all things that aften is better than quenc at. I would say especially in terms of quality it is better.

MrC

4th September 2008, 20:09

I would say quality, speed, compatibly are all things that aften is better than quenc at. I would say especially in terms of quality it is better.

Really? Are all your personal opinions or you can document them with any technical explanation/link/thread?

:confused:

Any chance to test minimum bitrate customization? Does it work as per your expectations?

;)

Bye

gizzin

5th September 2008, 05:28

I do personally believe that aften has better quality at the same bitrate. Honestly speed I really don't pay attention because encoding ac3 really doesn't take that long now adays. There both really fast. Compatibility I would say goes to aften. I stopped using quenc because I had compatibility problems with it. These are my experiences. Take a look at the aften thread here at doom9. There's not much technical shit that I found but maybe if you look around. I don't go by that though, I use my ears. I really didn't say get rid of quenc, I really just meant give the users the option what the like better whether it be quenc or aften.

Um, as far as the gizzin build went. It completely flawlessly but is greatly undersized only at 3.25gb. I haven't burned it and played it in my standalone yet but I'm doing that right now. I'm gonna watch the whole thing, so if there's any menu, or playback issues I will edit this post otherwise all is well.

On a sidenote, Installing a proper decoder fixed my stuttering issues, so It was for sure my end.

Edit vtses 6, 11, 12 seems like they didnt encode properly but yet the muxed, but when they are played all you see is a gray screen with audio playing. this would explain the undersize because those vtes are 1/4 the size of the others. the rest of vtes are about 450megs, all the files are generally the same in length. weird probably a decoder problem? what decoder do you use mr. c

PatchWorKs

5th September 2008, 09:30

Last reply for me too.

I wanna suggest all to take a look at this interesting (and quite recent) article: Court: violating copyleft = copyright infringement (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080813-court-violating-copyleft-copyright-infringement.html)

Last note: glad to see the license change (even if you must keep in mind that PD means "no copyright", so you can't stop ripoffs, code stole, etc...), btw you should ask tool's respective authors for bundling anyway.

That's all. :helpful:

Darksoul71

5th September 2008, 09:35

@PatchWorKs:
btw you must ask tool's respective authors for bundling anyway.
Stop it !:devil:

MrC

5th September 2008, 12:53

... Take a look at the aften thread here at doom9 ...

Will do. And surely I will put Aften support to my ToDo list (even if with low priority)

... Um, as far as the gizzin build went. It completely flawlessly but is greatly undersized only at 3.25gb ...

If you used HCenc with 2-pass profile, undersize is really too much and there is a problem somewhere.

... what decoder do you use mr. c ...

I use latest ffdshow stable release http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/ffdshow-tryout/ffdshow_beta5_rev2033_20080705_clsid.exe for everything: divx, xvid, mpeg2, mpeg1, dv, mp4, ac3, etc.

;)

Bye

Filbert

9th September 2008, 22:46

gizzin

10th September 2008, 04:58

The ffdshow version I was using caused those undersizing problems. I'm using the version you mentioned. But now I have a oversizing problem (50megs over). HC at smaller bitrates tends to oversize more. I just entered a custom size at 50 megs the default, and then re ran it and got to 4.36gb. So maybe when the bitrate is at lower 1500 - 2000. Have a lower default size. I'm running more tests tonight, the avg bitrate for these are 1500kb, roughly. To see if generally thats the case

MrC

10th September 2008, 11:33

Hi,

is it possible to save a Title Setting as default? I would like to use AVStoDVD for converting DV-material so I always need to edit the video settings to "DV Source". Hope that I have not overlooked something...

And I found one missing entry in the "Default Language" settings: "DE - German".

Thanks in advance, Filbert

I am sorry, but no it is not possible. Title Settings are dynamic, depending on the source title. It is possible (next release) to add a routine to detect if a source is DV coded and automatically toggle on "DV Source" in 'Title Settings'/'Video'.

What do you think?

Ah, thanks for reporting the missing language!

;)

Bye

Filbert

10th September 2008, 12:01

It is possible (next release) to add a routine to detect if a source is DV coded and automatically toggle on "DV Source" in 'Title Settings'/'Video'.

This would be very helpful, thanks! Will test it with my DV source-material as soon as a new (beta)build is out to see if it is working.

Greets, Filbert

gizzin

12th September 2008, 08:02

After numerous tests, it seems that 1500kb avg and under always seems to oversize.

rendez2k

12th September 2008, 08:30

After numerous tests, it seems that 1500kb avg and under always seems to oversize.

Whats the quality like at 1500kb and below anyway? It must be bad? I always try and keep above 3000.

MrC

12th September 2008, 12:53

After numerous tests, it seems that 1500kb avg and under always seems to oversize.

There should be something wrong. This is my "only one" test with a short DV source log file (1351 kbps avg bitrate). Ah, video output is horrible, of course.

<12/09/2008 13.42.38>
START PROCESS
<>

<12/09/2008 13.42.38>
DVD SETTINGS
DVD Titles number: 1
DVD Video Standard: PAL
DVD Size: 20/20 MB (100%)
DVD Output Setup: MPEG2 Streams

Delete temp process files: Yes
Delete working files: Yes
Save Log file: Yes
Output Folder: E:\Movies\DVD
<>

<12/09/2008 13.42.38>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: E:\Movies\Test\DV07_2008_05.avi
Info: DV - 28800 kbps - 720x576 - 16:9 - 25 fps - Interlaced - 1:46 minutes - 2661 frames
Audio: E:\Movies\Test\DV07_2008_05.avi
Info: PCM - 1536 kbps - - 48000Hz - 2ch - 33:15 minutes
Subs:
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.7.5]
<>

<12/09/2008 13.42.38>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Video = DirectShowSource("E:\Movies\Test\DV07_2008_05.avi", convertfps=true, audio=false)
Video = Video.ConvertToYV12

Audio = DirectShowSource("E:\Movies\Test\DV07_2008_05.avi", video=false)

AudioDub(Video, Audio)
<>

<12/09/2008 13.42.38>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: HCenc VBR 2-pass
Target Video FileSize: 17.1 MB
HCenc Parameters: -ini "S:\Temp\AVStoDVD\DV07_2008_05_0_Title_01.HCenc.ini"
HCenc ini file:
*INFILE S:\Temp\AVStoDVD\DV07_2008_05_0_Title_01.avs
*AVSRELOAD
*OUTFILE E:\Movies\DVD\DV07_2008_05_0_Title_01.m2v
*LOGFILE S:\Temp\AVStoDVD\DV07_2008_05_0_Title_01.HCenc.log
*MAXBITRATE 9000
*BITRATE 1351
*PROFILE BEST
*ASPECT 16:9
*INTERLACED
*BFF
*BIAS 10
*DC_PREC 8
*MATRIX MPEG
*AQ 1
*LUMGAIN 0
*SMP
*PRIORITY IDLE
*WAIT 2
<>

<12/09/2008 13.49.01>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: E:\Movies\DVD\DV07_2008_05_0_Title_01.m2v (16.7 MB)
<>

<12/09/2008 13.49.01>
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO:
Filename: DV07_2008_05_0_Title_01
Filesize: 17521903 Byte
Format: MPEG Video
Time: 1:46 minutes
Compression: MPEG-2 Video
AvgBitRate: 1317
Resolution: 720x576
Aspect Ratio: 1.778
FPS: 25.000
Interlacement: BFF
Frames: 2661
<>

<12/09/2008 13.49.01>
START AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
QuEnc (Audio) Parameters: -i "S:\Temp\AVStoDVD\DV07_2008_05_0_Title_01.avs" -o "E:\Movies\DVD\DV07_2008_05_0_Title_01.ac3" -priority 5 -1 -nohq -novbr -mpeg2mux novideo -audiocodec AC3 -audiobitrate 192 -auto -close
<>

<12/09/2008 13.49.15>
END AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: E:\Movies\DVD\DV07_2008_05_0_Title_01.ac3 (2.4 MB)
<>

<12/09/2008 13.49.15>
Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.1.1
<>

If you post a log file as well, it could be very useful.

:confused:

Bye

gizzin

13th September 2008, 00:18

1500kb avg is terrible, but trust me hc performs miracles at lower bitrates. Try any other encoder and you will see what shit looks like. I don't think there's a problem with avstodvd its just as the bitrate gets lower hc tends to oversize more. I don't have any log files I deleted everything, but I will run another test, today or tommorow and I will give you the log.

Darksoul71

13th September 2008, 20:06

1500kb avg is terrible, but trust me hc performs miracles at lower bitrates. Try any other encoder and you will see what shit looks like.
I would disagree...while HCEnc is pretty much able to encode One CD movies with good quality I still find all libavcodec based encoders (QuEnc, AQE, Mencoder)
better at low bitrates. Even below 1 MBit.

The image is somewhat smoother / blured than HCEnc but has less visual artifacts.

gizzin

14th September 2008, 00:22

I disagree totally. Quenc is really blocky imo, and aqe i put in the same department as cce it tends to make a lot of noise. I never tried mencoder though. But thats getting to much off topic... everyone has their opinions and my tends to be infavour of hcenc especially with lumgain and AQ. Solves all the blocking problems at higher bitrates...hehe

Darksoul71

14th September 2008, 09:53

@gizzin:
But thats getting to much off topic...
Agreed :)

@MrC:
I´m currently trying to implement a "guided CQ'" interface for HCEnc similar to manolito´s HC_D2S which is compatible with the standard hc interface and thus not DVD2SVCD dependend. You can follow development here if you are interested:
http://www.vmesquita.com/forum/index.php/topic,8888.0.html

I might add a one pass VBR mode without CQ prediction as well.

MrC

15th September 2008, 08:27

I´m currently trying to implement a "guided CQ'" interface for HCEnc similar to manolito´s HC_D2S which is compatible with the standard hc interface and thus not DVD2SVCD dependend. You can follow development here if you are interested:
http://www.vmesquita.com/forum/index.php/topic,8888.0.html

I might add a one pass VBR mode without CQ prediction as well.

Thanks for the hint, Darksoul71. I will surely take a look. Improving VBR 1-pass encoding would be very useful, because OPV is "a kind of magic", but sometimes inaccurate.

What about writing a DLL (maybe an ActiveX DLL)? That would be great, because its spreading and implementation would be very easy. Look at MediaInfo...

;)

Bye

Darksoul71

15th September 2008, 09:15

I do not know about you but I rather like to call an external program than accessing a dll :)

MrC

15th September 2008, 13:19

I do not know about you but I rather like to call an external program than accessing a dll :)

I agree if the DLL is not well written (crash) or it has a poor documentation/examples. Otherwise I prefer DLLs because they are more integrable with GUI and let a more accurate errors handling.

Just my 2 cents....

;)

Bye

gizzin

15th September 2008, 23:44

After trying 3 times I can't seem to get this dvd to author. Everytime I come back is error authoring or whatever, but it encodes properly. The only thing different is the source files are on a different hd...but I dont see how that will make a difference.

gizzin

16th September 2008, 12:29

I also get this error sometimes with certain avi files. ERROR, GetChannel: Attempted to request a channel that didn't exist!

MrC

17th September 2008, 13:05

I also get this error sometimes with certain avi files. ERROR, GetChannel: Attempted to request a channel that didn't exist!

This kind of error is common when the source file contains a (not DVD-compliant, in that case AVStoDVD retains audio) AC3 audio stream with a channels number different from your directshow AC3 codec mixer/output setup.

For example, if your file as a 5+1 AC3 stream and if you use ffdshow, be sure that audio decoder mixer is configured properly (http://avstodvd.googlepages.com/ffdshow_audio_mixer_6ch.png).

:)

Bye

gizzin

19th September 2008, 09:49

MrC

19th September 2008, 12:50

I ran into problems trying to keep 5.1 ac3 audio. The first time I did it, It ran through with ac3fix, but the audio was all garbled upon playback on my dvd players. Then I tried It again without ac3fix, but this time there was no audio, just the video. Finally I just re-encoded the audio and everything went a-ok. But no 5.1 surround booo. I tried it a couple times.

Yes, there is a little bug with ac3 retention in 2.1.0 release (and in 2.1.1 gizzin build).

Please force ac3 encoding and setup your ac3 decoder output to 6 channels, as I explained in a previous post to keep 5+1 sound.

;)

Bye

MrC

25th September 2008, 10:37

AVStoDVD release 2.1.1 Alpha 090825 available to download (http://avstodvd.googlepages.com/home)

Change log:

- Some bugs fixed
- Added 'Video Minimum Avg BitRate' in 'Settings'/'AudioVideo'. Lower value allowed is 1000 kbps. Default is 2500 kbps.
- Added 'Default Subs Language' in 'Settings/Authoring&Burning'
- Added frames selection customization to DVD Menu thumbnails (static and motion)
- Added frame capturing and saving (bitmap) feature in 'Clip Preview'
- Added 'GridSnap' feature (grid visualization and snap objects to grid) in DVD Menu Editor
- Added 'DV Source' auto detection in 'Title Edit'/'Video'
- Changed 'Default Video Max BitRate' in 'Video Maximum Avg BitRate'. Higher value reduced to 8500 kbps to avoid bitrate spikes.
- Changed Video Max BitRate (peak) setpoint: now it is not customizable (9000 kbps)
- Improved 'Clip Preview' form capabilities
- Improved 'Settings'/'System'/'Hardware Info' section
- Improved button shadows in DVD Menu Editor (new AviSynth function 'DropShadow')
- MediaInfo updated to 0.7.7.6
- BatchMux updated to 1.3
- Moved from "GNU/GPL" to "Creative Commons - Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 Unported" license type

*Note about license*
I would like to thanks PatchWork for his (somehow "inquisitive" but very qualified) advice in choosing the appropriate license for AVStoDVD.

:)

Bye

rendez2k

25th September 2008, 10:44

Good work! I'll test tonight. But the big question for me is.... does this included the Panasonic fix? Without it, its not ideal for me to use!

MrC

25th September 2008, 11:30

Good work! I'll test tonight. But the big question for me is.... does this included the Panasonic fix? Without it, its not ideal for me to use!

It should does, because of BatchMux 1.3 update.

Let us know

;)

Bye

Filbert

25th September 2008, 16:17

Thanks!
Tested 'DV Source' auto detection with DV-AVI and DV-Quicktime/.mov Container (PAL/25i). Both were detected correctly as DV Source. Makes my life a lot easier... :)

Greets, Filbert

rendez2k

25th September 2008, 22:27

PatchWorKs

26th September 2008, 10:43

- Moved from "GNU/GPL" to "Creative Commons - Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 Unported" license type

*Note about license*
I would like to thanks PatchWork for his (somehow "inquisitive" but very qualified) advice in choosing the appropriate license for AVStoDVD.

:)

Bye :rolleyes:

BTW I suggested the BY-NC-SA 3.0 (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/) to stay under some open feel (the BY-NC (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/) allows others to mod your soft but they're not forced to release the mods and can change the license too)...

Share Alike. You allow others to distribute derivative works only under a license identical to the license that governs your work.

note: my 'art' name is Marco Ravich, for those who are interested in.

MrC

26th September 2008, 11:32

The frame selection part has crashed on me twice now - once just scrolling through the video and once trying to OK my selections. Its a shame because I like the idea! Like the menu grid too!

Not tested the Panasonic issue yet but I'll report back soon.

It could be a problem of compatibility between your video codecs and the directshow library quartz.dll, that I use to make previews.

I had some crashes as well when using ffdshow "nightly builds". Everything ok instead with ffdshow stable releases and XviD 1.3. Not tested with DivX 5/6.

;)

Bye

gizzin

27th September 2008, 18:55

MrC

28th September 2008, 10:35

Sometimes when I make a dvd it doesn't rebuild into a dvd structure properly. It happen twice, one time with a whole movie, and then recently with a single titleset. I get the error in imgburn the corresponding ifo file for that particular titleset is missing. But this would most likely be a muxman error? not a avstodvd error...

Really never happened to me.... Did it happen with Muxman 0.15R (that comes with AVStoDVD) and/or 0.16.6?

Maybe Sir Didymus, who's knowledge of Muxman is surely greater than mine, could help us.

;)

Bye

Sir Didymus

28th September 2008, 16:54

Really never happened to me.... Did it happen with Muxman 0.15R (that comes with AVStoDVD) and/or 0.16.6?

Maybe Sir Didymus, who's knowledge of Muxman is surely greater than mine, could help us.

;)

Bye

No, no, please!

I don't like to be considered as an "expert" of anything (I am not... really...).

This issue, of the missed IFO files, is surely independent from the release of MuxMan (0.15R or 0.16.6). And it is neither depending on BatchMux - which is just a tool helpful in order to build the MuxMan scripts - or on MuxMan itself.

It is just a consequence of the fact that the MuxMan session ended with an error. Looking at the MuxMan log, and having some more informative bug report from gizzin would be useful for a better tracing of the problem.

My experience is that whenever properly created assets are fed to MuxMan, the authoring session does not fail.

Also, please use the search!
The issue of the "brute" end of the MuxMan authoring session has been discussed previously many other times, both in this thread and in the one related to FAVC.

Cheers,
SD

MrC

28th September 2008, 18:12

... Looking at the MuxMan log, and having some more informative bug report from gizzin would be useful for a better tracing of the problem ...

And AVStoDVD log would be useful as well.

;)

Bye

gizzin

29th September 2008, 04:25

Adub

29th September 2008, 05:56

MrC

29th September 2008, 13:59

Um yeah I guess saving the log would probably be useful. heh. I got a new error, well not necessary new, this also has been happening b4. The process aborts before it actually authors the dvd. I mentioned it before, I think I gave you a log of it. But anyways heres another log... I tried it with muxman 15r. I will also get a log of when the vts ifo file is missing. When it happens again I'm sure it will.

You sent me a PM with a log but without any explanation. Which case does it show? Reading it, everything seems to be ok... :confused:

I also have some files that avstodvd says when inputting them that it can't find the playtime... which are divx 5.0 and mp3 audio.

If MediaInfo does not recognize some tags (playtime in that case), AVStoDVD will tell it to the user

;)

Bye

MrC

29th September 2008, 14:16

A couple of questions,

1) What do you use to encode to AC3? It doesn't appear to be aften, which I thought was supposed to be one of the highest quality encoders available.
2) Why do you always do a "LanczosResize(720,480,0,36,0,-36)" on all content? It crops away so much of the original content, and it is plain unnecessary.

Hi there Merlin7777

1) As it is written in the readme.txt file (and in the website homepage), AVStoDVD uses QuEnc as audio encoder, for both mp2 and ac3. Upgrade to Aften is in my ToDo list.

2) As a matter of fact I do not ALWAYS do that resize. Resizing routine is quite complex and it depends on the input stream frame height and width and on the output aspect ratio.
<LanczosResize(720,480,0,36,0,-36> could come from a "almost" 4:3 input stream + a 16:9 selected output.
Feel free to play with frame setups and you will see different resizings.

;)

Bye

gizzin

29th September 2008, 15:36

gizzin

29th September 2008, 15:48

If MediaInfo does not recognize some tags (playtime in that case), AVStoDVD will tell it to the user

So in other words these file are unsupported? Because after it says error reading playtime, it says error reading file...I'm not able to load them into avstodvd.

Adub

29th September 2008, 18:35

@MrC

Thanks for your answers. I guess I was always seeing the Lanczos line because that is the input that I am working with. I will just have to be careful and edit it by hand. And I look forward to your Aften support!!

MrC

30th September 2008, 09:28

The error is that the right after encoding, it doesn't get to the authoring part it just aborts on it own. That whats the log for..

<9/28/2008 7:56:30 PM>
PROCESS ABORTED DURING DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS. <-- It doesn't author... I get this error, yet I didn't abort it... u know what i mean?

Do you have the possibility to recover and post here the log file generated by MuxMan? It is located in AVStoDVD temp files folder.

So in other words these file are unsupported? Because after it says error reading playtime, it says error reading file...I'm not able to load them into avstodvd.

Yes, they are unsupported. Those kind of error in reading AVIs usually happen when there is a error in file header. Instead, if GSpot can read the file and MediaInfo not, you can contact Zenitram (MediaInfo author) @ SourceForge (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mediainfo/)to inform him about the possible bug.

;)

Bye

gizzin

30th September 2008, 12:04

I'll run it again, and give you the log....Man I should really save these things...

MysticE

30th September 2008, 21:57

MrC

1st October 2008, 08:07

Seems I can't 'keep DVD compliant audio' (it works in FAVC). And ac3fix, if ticked, just goes nuts, although I can strip out the audio and run it through ac3fix with no problems. When I look at the work file, what is listed as .ac3 is actually the original source Xvid.

Hi MysticE and welcome back.

Are you using release 2.1.0? If yes, the AC3 retention bug is known (see previous post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1185838#post1185838)). It is fixed in 2.1.1 Alpha.

Instead, if you are using 2.1.1 Alpha, please send me the log file with the error.

;)

Bye

MysticE

1st October 2008, 20:58

All good now. Sorry I didn't look harder (lots of posts).

Thanks again.

MrC

3rd October 2008, 15:53

AVStoDVD release 2.1.1 Alpha 081003 available to download (http://avstodvd.googlepages.com/home)

Change log:

- Some bugs fixed
- Added 704x576 (PAL) and 704x480 (NTSC) as recognized compliant DVD Video resolution (now retained, not re-encoded)
- Changed AC3/MP2 audio demuxer: from 'VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2' to 'ffmpeg r14277'
- Changed default external previewer: from 'VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2' to Media Player Classic (if present) or system default AVIfile player
- Changed software to generate images/thumbs: from 'avs2avi' to 'ffmpeg r14277'
- Improved authoring log activity: added BatchMux.log file

:)

P.S. Bye Bye VDM, good old (no more) fashionable piece of software. You have done your job with honour. :cool:

gizzin

6th October 2008, 08:03

MrC

6th October 2008, 15:40

I found another bug I believe. I'm not certain if it happens without hitting the playall button. But after certain amount of titles it freezes right at the end of the episode. And doesn't continue playing after the other title.

Please specify more details (titles number, static/motion menu, used assets) or post the log file (both AVStoDVD and BatchMux logs).

:)

Bye

MysticE

6th October 2008, 19:27

MrC

7th October 2008, 08:13

I originally started using AVStoDVD in it's early days. Back then I mostly used it to to convert PAL VOB music videos to NTSC 16:9. I was able to tweak the script settings, narrow the large black bars of 2.35 vids, add side bars to 4:3 vids etc. (and I liked being able to end up with mpg's rather than having it go through the authoring stage). I just loaded a VOB that would not preview. Changing to Direct Show Source also did not work (the filter graph manager will not talk to me). Clicking on AviSynth I now get 'not editable'.

Don't panic... ;) I know you are one of the first users and, like many guys here at Doom9, you have helped me a lot in developping AVStoDVD.

Except single mpg output (you can achieve it by using ImagoMPEG-Muxer on elementary streams), AVStoDVD has kept all the beginning capability.

AviSynth script becomes 'not editable' when AVStoDVD finds a MPEG2 dvd compliant input stream. By default those streams are kept/transcoded and not re-encoded. To change default setting go to 'Settings'/'AudioVideo' and toggle off 'Keep/Transcode DVD compliant video'. AVS script will become editable and you can tweak it.

Hint: instead of directly tweaking the script to change aspect ratio, have you tried to play with 'Edit Title'/'Video'/'Video Aspect Ratio'?

About "the filter graph manager will not talk to me" error. That's means you do not have installed the proper directshow codec/filter to read your input file thru DirectShowSource. Try ffdshow stable releases.

If you get errors again, please be more specific: a screenshot or a log file would help a lot.

:)

Bye

MysticE

8th October 2008, 20:12

All good now. Re-installed ffdshow, ticking mpeg2 this time. The VOB's now preview/work.
AviSynth script becomes 'not editable' when AVStoDVD finds a MPEG2 dvd compliant input stream. By default those streams are kept/transcoded and not re-encoded. To change default setting go to 'Settings'/'AudioVideo' and toggle off 'Keep/Transcode DVD compliant video'. AVS script will become editable and you can tweak it.
Got it. For tweaking I liked your original way best, when 'widescreen' was right there, without digging/clicking around through various tabs. It was esier to note the crop/pad value changes quickly.

Except single mpg output (you can achieve it by using ImagoMPEG-Muxer on elementary streams),
Yea I know, I can just wait for the authoring then rename the VOB to mpg.

Thanks again for your quick response.

MrC

9th October 2008, 10:08

Just to inform that 2.1.1 Alpha 081003 has become 2.1.1 Final on SourceForge (https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340&package_id=233646&release_id=631870).

:cool:

Bye

Hubbabub

9th October 2008, 15:03

Cool ;)

Thanks MrC

MysticE

10th October 2008, 22:01

I've installed the latest. I was having a problem with it crashing during preview. I reinstalled ffdshow. I was using the stable, I went to ffdshow_rev2180_20081004_xxl.exe for the hell of it and all is well. For some reason when previewing with DirectShowSource I get no audio with ac3 (AViSource works for AVI's), but the encode goes fine. I guess I'll reinstall ac3 filter (?) or did I miss something in ffdshow (I sure wish it had some sort of setup so as not to always have to reinstall for changes).

Some general questions if I may. Under Video (in Title Edit) I can't change the Vid bitrate to 6000 (which is what I use to prepare various music vids that I then pop into Womble MPEG Video Wizard for the final compilation), I have to go back to Settings. I sure miss the old days when I could simply set the vid and audio bitrate right from the main screen. Having encoder choice and the ability to set bitrates right from the main screen, to quickly and temporarily override the Settings, would sure make life easier, with less chance of missing something.

Many times I seem to miss something. But if I go back to the program (I've ticked 'close' but left it open) I have to redo all my various AVS tweaks etc., and I'll probably miss something again. It would be nice if it retained all the settings so I could just correct the one I've missed. I have to remember to Save the project each time before starting the encode, and then reload it.

That said if I just pop an Xvid movie in and go with all my saved current settings the program works great. :)

MrC

12th October 2008, 13:44

I've installed the latest. I was having a problem with it crashing during preview. I reinstalled ffdshow. I was using the stable, I went to ffdshow_rev2180_20081004_xxl.exe for the hell of it and all is well.

I know. Some ffdshow nightly built are really a mess, in particular with DirectX library quartz.dll, which I use to make previews.

For some reason when previewing with DirectShowSource I get no audio with ac3 (AViSource works for AVI's), but the encode goes fine. I guess I'll reinstall ac3 filter (?) or did I miss something in ffdshow (I sure wish it had some sort of setup so as not to always have to reinstall for changes).

One reason could be that your input stream has AC3 audio. AVStoDVD will retain it, so AVS script does not contain any reference to audio encoding.

If you have installed both ffdshow AND ac3filter, do uncheck AC3 codec in ffdshow OR uninstall ac3filter. They could interfer.

Some general questions if I may. Under Video (in Title Edit) I can't change the Vid bitrate to 6000 (which is what I use to prepare various music vids that I then pop into Womble MPEG Video Wizard for the final compilation), I have to go back to Settings. I sure miss the old days when I could simply set the vid and audio bitrate right from the main screen. Having encoder choice and the ability to set bitrates right from the main screen, to quickly and temporarily override the Settings, would sure make life easier, with less chance of missing something.

Yes, I know that having bitrate choice capability in the main screen was very handy, but, when I implemented multi titles encoding I had to make some hard decisions to leave the GUI simple & fast. One of that was to remove manual bitrate setting. Surely I could re-introduce manual bitrate in 'Edit Title'/'Video'... I will think about that. ;)

Btw, I suggest you not to go back to 'Settings'/'Encoding' to freeze all project's bitrate, but instead, play with 'DVD Size'/'Custom Size' to fit a target filesize. And leave AVStoDVD make all the bitrate calculations.

Many times I seem to miss something. But if I go back to the program (I've ticked 'close' but left it open) I have to redo all my various AVS tweaks etc., and I'll probably miss something again. It would be nice if it retained all the settings so I could just correct the one I've missed. I have to remember to Save the project each time before starting the encode, and then reload it.

Really have not understood. Of course if you close AVStoDVD (how can you close and "leave it open"?), your project's settings are lost... 'Save Project' has just the purpose to save your current job for further update... Please be more clear :)

Btw, thanks for all comments and suggestions, as usual.

What do you think about DVD menu creation?

;)

Bye

ricardo.santos

12th October 2008, 23:51

Thanks Mrc for the new version

Some "thoughts" on this version

1- when converting an avi with ac3 audio, AVS2DVD doesnt convert it and it "blanks" the the audio section to avoid that the user converts something that is not needed, the same goes for video, and i agree with the move....but...by blanking we cant specify the audio "language", yes we can specify it on the main menu but it would a lot easier to blank only the convert option and leave the language section "open".

2- Whemn creating the motion thumbnails it always starts from the begining, if i specify a diferent point for the motion thumbnails it doesnt aply it.

Once again thanks for keeping improving AVS2DVD

MrC

13th October 2008, 12:44

1- when converting an avi with ac3 audio, AVS2DVD doesnt convert it and it "blanks" the the audio section to avoid that the user converts something that is not needed, the same goes for video, and i agree with the move....but...by blanking we cant specify the audio "language", yes we can specify it on the main menu but it would a lot easier to blank only the convert option and leave the language section "open".

I agree that audio language is independent of keeping/encoding audio stream. I adopted the "quick & dirty" strategy to blank all audio settings but this section can be surely improved. Thanks for the input.

2- Whemn creating the motion thumbnails it always starts from the begining, if i specify a diferent point for the motion thumbnails it doesnt aply it.

Do you mean from DVD menu edit window or from output DVD? If first, motion menu Preview Mode is not a *real* preview and thumbs are only a shot of last thumb clip frame (with "film effect" overlayed).
Output DVD should keep your selected start/end frame for thumbs, shouldn't it?

;)

Bye

MrC

13th October 2008, 13:20

What do you think removing the choice to use AVISource or DirectShowSource in 'Settings'/'Encoding' and implement a AviSynth plugin like this:

Function A2DVideoSource(VideoSource)
{
Try {
DirectShowSource(VideoSource, convertfps=true, audio=false)
}
Catch(Err_Msg) {
Try {
AviSource(VideoSource)
}
Catch(Err_Msg) {
LoadPlugin("FFmpegSource.dll")
FFmpegSource(VideoSource, seekmode=0)
}
}
return(Last)
}

Function A2DAudioSource(AudioSource)
{
Try {
DirectShowSource(AudioSource, video=false)
}
Catch(Err_Msg) {
Try {
AviSource(AudioSource)
}
Catch(Err_Msg) {
LoadPlugin("FFmpegSource.dll")
FFmpegSource(AudioSource, vtrack = -2, atrack = -1, seekmode=0)
}
}
return(Last)
}

Any suggestions how to improve the AVS script is well accepted

;)

Bye

ricardo.santos

14th October 2008, 09:56

Do you mean from DVD menu edit window or from output DVD?

On the output DVD ofcourse, i know the "preview" doesnt show the real preview but i meant the final/output dvd.

MrC

14th October 2008, 12:57

On the output DVD ofcourse, i know the "preview" doesnt show the real preview but i meant the final/output dvd.

Please check again because, from my experience, start/end frames selection for motion thumbs works correctly.

Eventually grab file [ProjectName]Thumb_1_Video.avs from AVStoDVD Temp files folder and paste it here.

Thanks

:)

Bye

ricardo.santos

14th October 2008, 16:43

i checked it 3 times by encoding several diferent videos before posting, will post the log later tonight

Thanks

MrC

15th October 2008, 08:40

ricardo, I'm not claiming you are in a hurry at posting (I know your competence) but I'm trying to understand. Let's go step by step just to be aligned.

To change thumbs start/end frame:
- Open 'Menu Editor'
- Click on 'Edit Mode'
- Click on selected thumb. 'Frame Start', 'Frame End' and 'Edit' button become visible. Remember those numbers! Default are 0 and 375 (15 seconds time span).
- Click on 'Edit'. 'Clip Preview' window opens.
- In 'Edit' menu you can visualize start/end frame.
- Go to selected start frame and press menu 'Edit'/'Mark current frame ... start'. Select, i.e., frame 50.
- Go to selected end frame and press menu 'Edit'/'Mark current frame ... end'. Select, i.e., frame 500.
- Exit from 'Clip Preview'
- In 'Menu Editor', if everything is ok, 'Frame Start' and 'Frame End' should have changed. Fake motion thumb should have changed as well.

After encoding, if you keep temp files, [ProjectName]Thumb_1_Video.avs from AVStoDVD Temp files folder should contain the line:
Trim(50,500)
and not
Trim(0,375)

Let me know and thanks for report

;)

Bye

ricardo.santos

15th October 2008, 23:46

MrC

16th October 2008, 19:27

Hi MRC

Unfortunally i didnt have the time to do the testing but i set up the motion thumbnails starting position on the "overall" menu as the following picture shows:
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/3664/avs2dvdmf6.jpg

Ok, got it. That setting (Thumb Frame Position) is not intended for motion menu but only for static menu. Motion menu starts, by default, always from frame 0. You can modify default starting/end frames following my previous post's steps.

I know, I should improve GUI clarity and help file...

;)

Bye

MysticE

17th October 2008, 08:13

MrC

17th October 2008, 13:03

In Settings I've set the max bitrate to 8000. It doesn't seem to take with HCenc (it does when encoding short music vids with Quenc which I set there at 6000). When HCenc fires up it still reads max bitrate 9000.

From 2.1.1 revision History:

- Changed 'Default Video Max BitRate' in 'Video Maximum Avg BitRate'. Higher value reduced to 8500 kbps to avoid bitrate spikes.
- Changed Video Max BitRate (peak) setpoint: now it is not customizable (9000 kbps)

'Video Maximum Avg BitRate' is used only to auto-select video encoder.

;)

Bye

SAROV

17th October 2008, 20:30

MrC

When in the program there will be Russian Language?
It is planned to make?

MrC

18th October 2008, 08:04

MrC

When in the program there will be Russian Language?
It is planned to make?

Well, there is already...

RU - Russian

:)

Bye

SAROV

18th October 2008, 08:22

MrC
I meant Russian in the menu.
Russian letters are not displayed.

MrC

18th October 2008, 13:20

Ok, got the problem-

Unfortunately, Visual Basic standard TextBox does not support special chars. I have to move to RichTextBox which means add a new OCX to the project.

Do not blame me if I will put RichTextBox support in the ToDo list with low priority.

;)

Bye

SAROV

18th October 2008, 18:29

MrC

Ok!
I will wait the new version. Thanks!

Achil_les

10th November 2008, 07:29

Very nice app with a very good quality video output.

Is it possible that there is a problem with multiple audio streams.
Because I tried converting a mkv video with 2 aac audio streams but in my final DVD there is only one i can find?

Thanks

MrC

10th November 2008, 09:25

Very nice app with a very good quality video output.

:thanks:

Is it possible that there is a problem with multiple audio streams.

Unfortunately AVStoDVD does not handle multiple input audio. It reads and converts only first audio stream.

It could be a good improvement to put in my (looooong) ToDo list.

;)

Bye

rendez2k

10th November 2008, 09:38

Talking of ToDo lists.... how are the updates coming along?

MrC

10th November 2008, 10:30

My plan is to release a Alpha at the end of this week.

I spent really a lot of time in making Clip Preview section more stable: activemovie library (quartz.dll) hanlding in VB is really a mess.

Stay tuned.

;)

Bye

rendez2k

10th November 2008, 10:37

Good work :-)

Achil_les

10th November 2008, 15:55

Thanks for the quick reply.

Great app!

10th November 2008, 17:56

We really appreciate all the effort you put into this project MrC, great work.

Cheers!!!

gizzin

12th November 2008, 11:32

Ya, The best quality all in one converter out there. He even takes the time to listen to users requests. Great work indeed.

MrC

12th November 2008, 16:24

Well, so many kind users deserve a new Alpha.

AVStoDVD 2.1.2 Alpha build 081112 is out (https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340&package_id=269494).

Change log:

- Added 'FFMpegSource.dll': an AviSynth plug-in to open files using ffmpeg and nothing else (thanks to Myrsloik (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=127037))
- Added 'GetSystemEnv.dll': an AviSynth plug-in to retrieve information from the system (thanks to stickboy (http://www.avisynth.org/stickboy))
- Added AviSynth function 'A2DSource.avsi': all-in-one AviSynth script input source functions manager
- Added AviSynth function 'ATrim.avsi': function to trim based on Audio times (thanks to IanB (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1065329))
- Added support to DVD Menu background audio
- Added support to DVD Menu background video
- Added DTS audio streams retaining
- Improved DVD Menu labels format (multi-line, outline, shadow)
- Improved Clip Preview section stability
- Updated video and audio format input list (divx, mjpg, ts, m2ts, hdmov, aac, flac)
- MediaInfo updated to 0.7.7.8

Please take a careful look at A2DSource function, menu video and audio background and Clip Preview (un)stability.

As usual, report back any issue. I did not have much time to test this Alpha...

;)

Bye

gizzin

14th November 2008, 08:46

DTS retention seems to work fine, however I haven't played the corresponding dvd in my player.

rendez2k

14th November 2008, 15:14

I've not had chance to test any of the new features, but I do have another couple of questions:

Can the average bitrate be set? It appears to be grayed out on the video settings? What I'm essentially trying to do is encode a bunch of videos that are sized according to bitrate rather than disc size.

MrC

14th November 2008, 16:53

Can the average bitrate be set? It appears to be grayed out on the video settings? What I'm essentially trying to do is encode a bunch of videos that are sized according to bitrate rather than disc size.

Bitrate textbox is disabled because avg bitrate cannot be set, but it is calculated by AVStoDVD. I think it is better to define first the DVD layout (number of titles, DVD size, etc.) and then add titles to project.

BTW, if you want to fix the bitrate, you can calculate output size manually and then insert it in 'DVD Size'/'Custom'. Roughly:

OutputSize [MB] = (VideoBitRate + AudioBitRate) x 1000 / 8 / 1024 / 1024 x Time

Example: you want to encode a 1 hr (3600 s) clip and with 6000 kbps video and 192 kbps audio. Then your OuputSize will be:

(6000 + 192) x 1000 / 8 / 1024 / 1024 x 3600 = 2657 MB

Now:

1. Load AVStoDVD
2. Add your file
3. Select 'DVD Size'/'Custom'
4. Insert "2657" MB
5. Check bitrate in 'Edit Title'/'General'

You could see little differences because AVStoDVD takes care of extra space for authoring stuff.

;)

Bye

OAKside

14th November 2008, 16:56

Thanks MrC. Have went from AVStoDVD, to FAVC, to The FilmMachine, and now primarily back to AVStoDVD.
Cleanest of them all, everything works smoothly. Working preview and SSA subtitles (mod AVS script) are icing.

With Aften it'll be close to perfect. Checking out the alpha, appreciate the constant updates.

MrC

15th November 2008, 08:43

Hi OAKside and thanks for your kind appreciations.

I have visited your site and noticed you are a good visual artist. What about to contribute to AVStoDVD with some graphical stuff? It could be: new icons set, menu backgrounds or maybe, for upcoming multipage menus, some nice navigation buttons (page forward, page backward, move to end page, move to first page, play all, etc.).

Everything would be very very appreciated and, of course, your name and your website will be put in the acknowledge section.

Let me know

;)

Bye

MysticE

15th November 2008, 23:16

Well I hope I can still 'lock in' a 6000 kbps bitrate with the new version. I can only do this with QuEnc now.

From MediaInfo:

Video
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, Matrix : Standard
Duration : 3mn 39s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 5662 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 6000 Kbps

Trying the same with Hcenc (which I would prefer) I get this.

Video
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, Matrix : Standard
Duration : 9mn 0s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 5668 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 9000 Kbps

This hampers me when I go to do my final compilation in Womble MPEG Video Wizard as it sees '9000 Kbps' and doesn't allow me to add as many of the music vids I've prepared, without it wanting to re-encode the whole batch. Hopefully, at least QuEnc will still work like it has.

rendez2k

15th November 2008, 23:31

Bitrate textbox is disabled because avg bitrate cannot be set, but it is calculated by AVStoDVD. I think it is better to define first the DVD layout (number of titles, DVD size, etc.) and then add titles to project.

BTW, if you want to fix the bitrate, you can calculate output size manually and then insert it in 'DVD Size'/'Custom'. Roughly:

OutputSize [MB] = (VideoBitRate + AudioBitRate) x 1000 / 8 / 1024 / 1024 x Time

Example: you want to encode a 1 hr (3600 s) clip and with 6000 kbps video and 192 kbps audio. Then your OuputSize will be:

(6000 + 192) x 1000 / 8 / 1024 / 1024 x 3600 = 2657 MB

Now:

1. Load AVStoDVD
2. Add your file
3. Select 'DVD Size'/'Custom'
4. Insert "2657" MB
5. Check bitrate in 'Edit Title'/'General'

You could see little differences because AVStoDVD takes care of extra space for authoring stuff.

;)

Bye

Thanks Mr C - I'm away for a week now but I'll do a full test when I get back. I'm guessing you have no plans to add a custom bitrate feature? It would be handy when I want to use AVStoDVD to encode and author in a 3rd party program such as DVD Lab (using the output to elementary streams feature)

MrC

17th November 2008, 08:53

@MysticE

I have not understood well what is your concern: if Womble MPEG Video Wizard does not accept your mpeg2 files because it looks at nominal (aka max) bitrate and not at average bitrate, then the problem is within Womble MPEG Video Wizard... ;)

@rendez2k

I will wait for your test and for a complete report (as usual). Thanks.
About using AVStoDVD as mpeg2 encoder tool and then using a third part sw for authoring, may I suggest a "strategy"?

1. Define how long (time) will be your DVD. i.e. 120 min
2. Define how big (size) will be your DVD. i.e. 4435 MB
3. Define how many titles will be stored in your DVD. i.e. 10x12 min
4. If you have at hand all titles, load them all into AVStoDVD setting wanted DVD Size. Select 'Output/Elementary MPEG2 Stream" and press Start.
5. If you don't have at hand all titles, and you want to encode one by one, then divide DVD size per your titles and put that number in 'DVD Size/Custom Size'. i.e. 443 MB per title. Of course option 4 is better.

The message is: forget bitrate and focus on filling DVD size. Leave AVStoDVD do the weird job to calculate the best bitrate for you.

;)

Bye

gizzin

17th November 2008, 19:30

MrC

17th November 2008, 20:25

Speaking of aften, What kind of implementation would that require? MrC :)

Very simple indeed. If you look at 2.1.2 Alpha source code, you will find its implementation draft in the audio encoding section (modStart.bas file).

Just to do some testing by myself to finalize it.

;)

Bye

MysticE

17th November 2008, 22:11

Speaking of aften, What kind of implementation would that require? MrC :)

I also agree with Mr.C, you just let the program figure out what the best bitrate is to fill up the dvd. He's giving you the way how you do it manual, which isn't that complicated. It wouldn't make much sense to add that as a feature, as it would just confuse the less advanced user. 95% of users probably want to fill the dvd anyways...
Really? There are many tools out there for "the less advanced user". Nero Vision, DVD Flick, ConvertXtoDVD to name just a few. Why limit a program's functions that offers encoder choices, Script modification etc? Your comment that you want it noob friendly (that being able to quickly lock in the bitrate is somehow "unfriendly") makes no sense to me.

gizzin

18th November 2008, 08:23

MysticE, I was referring to rendez2k. MysticE, so what your problem is you what to set a max bitrate for your encodes, by locking bitrate for all profiles? Ya I found this a little confusing at first. Unless you lock it in it will automatically choose with video profile to encode, and thats determined by the bitrate. If you want change the maximum bitrate do it in the audio/video tab where it has minimum and maximun avg bitrate. I'd never use anything but 2pass encode with HC. You can also choose what video profile, it the edit title, when you right click a specific title <-- thats what i normally do. I think this is what your asking right? I personally think mrc should get rid of the video profiles, and just have the choice what encoder you use. But he creates the video profiles with quality vs time, and he does it very well in my opinion. I guess that idea goes back to the ease of use thing. When you lock in a profile, your just using that specific profile for all bitrates...not the bitrates its showing. Also why is everyone using other authoring packages. the menu creation and muxman pretty good? no?

ummus

18th November 2008, 17:28

MrC

18th November 2008, 17:56

Sir, as per your suggestion, my system is formatted as NTFS. AVI files converted into DVD files fully 100%. But, at the time of burning that files in DVD, the Nero shows "DVD Video files reallocation failed. The resulting DVD Video might be unplayable. Do you want to continue?" Why Sir?

Hi ummus. I have really few info to give you an answer. Maybe you can send me by email AVStoDVD project log file, or write here more detail on your project settings.

BTW, have you tried ImgBurn as burning sw? Does it complain about DVD video files? If not, and if the burned DVD is OK, I would be pretty sure that AVStoDVD is doing fine its work.

:)

Bye

manolito

18th November 2008, 18:25

@ummus
"DVD Video files reallocation failed. The resulting DVD Video might be unplayable. Do you want to continue?"
This has always been one of the Nero messages you can safely ignore. :rolleyes:
And as MrC said, IMGBurn is a much better burning software than Nero.

Cheers
manolito

MrC

20th November 2008, 12:20

Really? There are many tools out there for "the less advanced user". Nero Vision, DVD Flick, ConvertXtoDVD to name just a few. Why limit a program's functions that offers encoder choices, Script modification etc?

Ah, MysticE, you really know how to challenge me! You :devil: !

OK, I will add bitrate customization, but only title by title.

:p

Bye

rendez2k

20th November 2008, 12:34

Ah, MysticE, you really know how to challenge me! You :devil: !

OK, I will add bitrate customization, but only title by title.

:p

Bye

If bitrate customization is hidden away in the video settings, I can't really see it confusing new users as most won't even look in there! If features for the advanced users can be added then why not? I'm sure we all want AVStoDVD to be the best!

And thanks yet again Mr C for considering adding it!

gizzin

20th November 2008, 18:04

MrC

21st November 2008, 08:36

I mean direct bitrate customization, in Title Edit window:

http://avstodvd.googlepages.com/AutoVideoBitRate.PNG

Does it accomplish your feat request, rendez2k & MysticE?

;)

Bye

rendez2k

21st November 2008, 11:29

I mean direct bitrate customization, in Title Edit window:

http://avstodvd.googlepages.com/AutoVideoBitRate.PNG

Does it accomplish your feat request, rendez2k & MysticE?

;)

Bye

That does it for me! Can't wait for the update!!

MysticE

21st November 2008, 21:47

I'm confused here, MysticE said he use to able to lock the bitrate, but now he can't? and so mr.c said he would add bitrate customization, but from what I read, He already did that somehow? I assumed he meant the avg bitrate...
The earlier versions were quite a bit different. Back then I'd choose my encoder (HCenc) and max bitrate, output to mpg and run with it. I use it to convert various music videos of all types, PAL, NTSC VOB's (FS and WS), and various AVIs that I would then convert to 16:9 NTSC. It was a very quick process as most things were pretty much available from the main screen. These I would compile into DVDs with Nero Vision and later Womble MPEG Video Wizard DVD which worked better as I could normalize the volume and standardize the audio to almost anything I wanted. Neither app would re-encode. The ability to tweak the script, preview the results and the addition of pulldown made it easier to use and more versatile than the older version of Mainconcept Enc that I was using, while maintaining the same or better quality.

The program has changed into quite a different animal now. I have to wait for the authoring process and then rename the resulting VOB (*****.mpg) and delete the rest, no big deal. I can lock QuEnc into 6000 kbps, but for some reason the nominal bitrate created by HCenc at 6000kbps does not agree with Womble anymore. I've finally found a rhythm to set/adjust/tick/untick/tab here/tab there the various things I need to do.... it took awhile (:o). I'll just trust Mr. C's judgement that at 6000kbps QuEnc is fine and run with it.

I think it's time to pony up with a Donation as this version does do what I need (works great for the occasional long running time Xvid movies I sometimes do) although I will be trying the new one.

MrC

22nd November 2008, 22:43

@rendez2k

Be patient. Just some days of my onw testing.

@MysticE

I agree with you that AVStoDVD until release 1.2.3 was quicker when dealing with just one file. You can understand that flexibility and more features are (almost always) against speed.

Why do you need to have a muxed MPG file? Because Womble does not accept elementary mpeg2 streams? BTW, I suggest you not to rename VOB to MPG, because VOB files contains also some authoring info. If you really need a single MPG file, I would use ImagoMPEG-Muxer to mux m2v+ac3 files output by AVStoDVD.

And maybe, someday, you will see single MPG file output coming back...

;)

Bye

manolito

23rd November 2008, 13:44

Some ideas for future releases of AVDtoDVD:

I just finished testing most of the free one-click DVD conversion software, and AVStoDVD (v. 2.1.2 alpha) was among my favorites. Still I would like to see some improvements :D.
(Please remember that I have never used the software before, so my findings kind of come from an outsider's perspective.)

1. The predefined automatic profiles take a while to get used to, but they are certainly helpful for beginners. But the high bitrate profile using QuEnc CBR should be modified. In this profile the Trellis option is always active. NOT GOOD!! In QuEnc the Trellis option mostly makes no sense at all, and the rare cases where it might acually help quality are those low bitrate encodes of complicated, hard to encode sources. Many people (including me) even think that Trellis is broken in libavcodec. To a lesser degree I also question the usefulness of the HQ option at average bit rates above 6000 kbps.

2. Luckily the automatic modes can be switched off individually for each file. For HC there is an advanced mode, but not for QuEnc. I would really like to be able to use the QuEnc VBR modes with 1 or 2 passes here and there.

3. I read that using Aften for AC3 audio conversions is already in the pipeline, so this is probably redundant.

4. The menue creating stuff using BatchMux is very nice. The only thing I miss is the option to not use thumbnails at all. Just setting width and height to 0 does not work. Maybe add a "Disable" option to the properties for thumbnails and the "Play All" button?

Alright, that's my wish list. Would make an already excellent program even better....

Cheers
manolito

MrC

23rd November 2008, 15:10

Manolito, thanks for your review and suggestions. To answer I will use same numbering.

1. In QuEnc 0.75 Alpha, trellis quant is disabled and trellis checkbox is used to activate multithread encoding. It is written also in AVStoDVD help section... ;)

2. I have forced QuEnc only for CBR encoding because I believe that HCenc is vastly superior as VBR encoder. What would be the improvement to have VBR encoding in QuEnc? From your experience, is there any movie situation in which QuEnc VBR would be preferred than HCenc VBR?

3. Will do

4. Do you mean having menues with labels only? Like FAVC menues? If I remember correctly, somebody else asked me the same feature sometimes ago... so, I will put in ToDo list ;)

BTW, many many thanks for your suggestions. I hope you will keep on looking at AVStoDVD and help its development.

:)

Bye

rendez2k

23rd November 2008, 15:16

4. Do you mean having menues with labels only? Like FAVC menues? If I remember correctly, somebody else asked me the same feature sometimes ago... so, I will put in ToDo list ;)

It was me and yes please :D

manolito

23rd November 2008, 16:03

Thanks MrC for looking into my suggestions!

1. In QuEnc 0.75 Alpha, trellis quant is disabled and trellis checkbox is used to activate multithread encoding. It is written also in AVStoDVD help section...
You got me !!!:stupid: Usually I am the one always preaching "Read the f... manual"

2. I have forced QuEnc only for CBR encoding because I believe that HCenc is vastly superior as VBR encoder. What would be the improvement to have VBR encoding in QuEnc? From your experience, is there any movie situation in which QuEnc VBR would be preferred than HCenc VBR?
Oh yes! SPEEEEEED is the difference. I have always been a big fan of QuEnc's one-pass VBR mode. Used with the right matrix the quality is quite impressive. I do agree that HC does mostly deliver better quality than QuEnc, but on my old 1.1 GHz Pentium 3 the cost is about 6x higher encoding time.

BTW I discovered that it is possible to use custom quant matrices in QuEnc under AVStoDVD. Just run QuEnc before AVS2DVD, specify a matrix and close QuEnc. The matrix setting is retained and QuEnc actually uses this matrix under AVStoDVD. Nice!

4. Do you mean having menues with labels only? Like FAVC menues? If I remember correctly, somebody else asked me the same feature sometimes ago... so, I will put in ToDo list
Yes, exactly. But with the ability to move around the labels and modify fonts and colours (I did not find a way to do this in FAVC)

And another thing I forgot to mention in my previous post:
I tried to find a way to translate the user interface into German, but VB is not very friendly in this respect (a resource editor cannot be used here). Would you consider moving the string resources to a text file which can be easily translated?

Cheers
manolito

23rd November 2008, 17:06

DeVeDe(http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=142973) may be easy to use for a novice, but it has a known bug which produces significantly undersized encodings, this is the same for both the Linux & Windows versions(I have found even setting 5-10% oversize produces an output of between 1.8-2.3GB when used with a 7oomb quality XviD file from my own backup collection) It also only offers 1 pass encoding. As for DVD Flick I gave up on that about a year back, I found it incredibly buggy, & if you check the forum it still appears to be. Software selection is very subjective but AVStoDVD uses some of the best tools available, and is imho the leader in this particular field.

Keep it up MrC

sharkatec

23rd November 2008, 21:10

Hello all and offcourse MrC,

i'm new here and found this thread and program just a few days ago. First of all,great work and effort MrC and all the others. i don't know if it will work what i'm trying to do but i'm trying as we speak. I have a blue-ray backup on my hdd. I've made a new single m2ts file with 1 videostream,1 audiostream and 1 subtitle. Now i've loaded it into AVStoDVD to see if it's managable to get a DL DVD out of a blue-ray backup with ac3 and a subtitle. Maybe has someone else tried it but from what ive been reading it's more about avi's. Forgive me if i didnt read it through all the many postings.

Maybe u can shine your light on this matter what i'm trying to do MrC.
Keep up the good work.

rendez2k

23rd November 2008, 23:38

sharkatec

24th November 2008, 00:10

I'd say this is the wrong tool for the job - try RipBot264 (I assume you aren't trying to convert a BR to DVD format, rather back up a DL DVD in BR format?). This really is for avi -> DVD. It won't handle BR.

no,i'm trying to make from a blue-ray backup a DVD,i've stripped the backup,so ive now a m2ts with just 1 videostream,1 audiostream and 1 subtitle. As of now,AVStoDVD is handling it and i don't know the outcome yet because it is still busy encoding,but AVStoDVD recognised the m2ts (mpeg2)file,it also recognised the ac3 audio and the ripped srt file.

The outcome is still not sure yet

MrC

24th November 2008, 14:01

Oh yes! SPEEEEEED is the difference. I have always been a big fan of QuEnc's one-pass VBR mode. Used with the right matrix the quality is quite impressive. I do agree that HC does mostly deliver better quality than QuEnc, but on my old 1.1 GHz Pentium 3 the cost is about 6x higher encoding time.

What about adding an option to be able to pause process, prompt the user (a simple form with a textbox) to edit cli parameters (QuEnc, HCenc, maybe BatchMux) and then resume process? That should satisfy most advanced users needs.
And think seriously to upgrade your system: multicore cpus really do improve video encoding time.

I tried to find a way to translate the user interface into German, but VB is not very friendly in this respect (a resource editor cannot be used here). Would you consider moving the string resources to a text file which can be easily translated?

Wow! Are you really willing to translate AVStoDVD?!? Great! I agree that VB is really unfriendly and my code is horrible, but the idea to have text files as languages resources is very intriguing. Absolutely to do, even if the wish list is so loooong...

;)

Bye

MrC

24th November 2008, 14:04

no,i'm trying to make from a blue-ray backup a DVD,i've stripped the backup,so ive now a m2ts with just 1 videostream,1 audiostream and 1 subtitle. As of now,AVStoDVD is handling it and i don't know the outcome yet because it is still busy encoding,but AVStoDVD recognised the m2ts (mpeg2)file,it also recognised the ac3 audio and the ripped srt file.

The outcome is still not sure yet

Keep us informed about the outcome. If you can, copy&paste here the log file or send it to me by email.

;)

Bye

manolito

24th November 2008, 21:24

What about adding an option to be able to pause process, prompt the user (a simple form with a textbox) to edit cli parameters (QuEnc, HCenc, maybe BatchMux) and then resume process? That should satisfy most advanced users needs.
Sounds very good to me..
And think seriously to upgrade your system: multicore cpus really do improve video encoding time.
I know, I know... My system is ancient, but it is stable as a rock. I am the "Computer Doctor" for a couple of friends with much faster machines, but most of them have stability problems due to overheating in the summer, unreliable RAM etc...
Wow! Are you really willing to translate AVStoDVD?!? Great!
Absolutely! I have translated a lot of utilities into German in the past. The easiest way is when you can use standard resource files, because you can resize text boxes if the translated strings are longer than the original strings. But I believe VB does not support this.

Using indexed text files for the string resources is also workable, but then the translated strings cannot be longer than the original ones. Can be quite challenging if the target language is German...

And I absolutely refuse to do any translations using a hex editor on the executables...:devil:

Cheers
manolito

sharkatec

24th November 2008, 23:00

Keep us informed about the outcome. If you can, copy&paste here the log file or send it to me by email.

;)

Bye

well,the program just stopped when it was beginning with encoding the subs. The program have made 2 seperate files so far,1 mpeg videofile and 1 audiofile,but AVStoDVD stopped by itself and never got to author a DVD.
here's the logfile.

<23-11-2008 20:48:22>
START PROCESS
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<23-11-2008 20:48:22>
DVD SETTINGS
DVD Titles number: 1
DVD Video Standard: PAL
DVD Chapters Interval: 5 min
DVD Menu: No DVD Menu
DVD Size: 8100/8100 MB (100%)
DVD Output Setup: DVD Folder

Delete temp process files: Yes
Delete working files: Yes
Save Log file: Yes
Output Folder: C:\Downloads\test
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<23-11-2008 20:48:22>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: D:\Downloads\!RnE - 2008.11.17 15.41.43 - bd-tm1\bd-tm1\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts
Info: VC-1 - 0 kbps - 1920x1080 - 16:9 - 23,976 fps - PPF - 2:16:10 hours - 196087 frames
Audio: D:\Downloads\!RnE - 2008.11.17 15.41.43 - bd-tm1\bd-tm1\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts
Info: AC3 - 640 kbps - CBR - 48000Hz - 6ch - 2:16:18 hours
Subs: D:\Downloads\!RnE - 2008.11.17 15.41.43 - bd-tm1\test\test.srt
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.7.6]
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<23-11-2008 20:48:22>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Video = DirectShowSource("D:\Downloads\!RnE - 2008.11.17 15.41.43 - bd-tm1\bd-tm1\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", convertfps=true, audio=false)
Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
#Using DGPulldown to upsize FPS
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,576)

Audio = GetChannel(DirectShowSource("D:\Downloads\!RnE - 2008.11.17 15.41.43 - bd-tm1\bd-tm1\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", video=false), 1, 3, 2, 5, 6, 4)

AudioDub(Video, Audio)
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<23-11-2008 20:48:22>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: QuEnc CBR 1-pass
Target Video FileSize: 7735 MB
QuEnc Parameters: -i "C:\Users\Manuel\AppData\Local\Temp\00000_0_Title_01.avs" -o "C:\Downloads\test\00000_0_Title_01.m2v" -b 7942 -1 -hq -novbr -scene -trell -aspectratio 16:9 -nointerlaced -mpeg2mux noaudio -dc 10 -priority 5 -auto -close
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<24-11-2008 11:01:01>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: C:\Downloads\test\00000_0_Title_01.m2v (7742,4 MB)
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<24-11-2008 11:01:01>
START TRANSCODING OPERATIONS
ReJig Parameters: -size 7735 -o "C:\Downloads\test\00000_0_Title_01.ReJig.m2v" -i "C:\Downloads\test\00000_0_Title_01.m2v" -auto -close -quiet
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<24-11-2008 11:08:50>
END TRANSCODING OPERATIONS
Transcoding excuted on File: C:\Downloads\test\00000_0_Title_01.m2v (3137 MB)
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<24-11-2008 11:13:48>
END PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown executed on File: C:\Downloads\test\00000_0_Title_01.m2v (3137 MB)
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<24-11-2008 11:13:48>
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO:
Filename: 00000_0_Title_01
Filesize: 3289352430 Byte
Format: MPEG Video
Time: 2:16:18 hours
Compression: MPEG-2 Video
AvgBitRate: 3218
Resolution: 720x576
Aspect Ratio: 1.778
FPS: 25.000
Interlacement: PPF
Frames: 204447
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<24-11-2008 11:13:49>
START AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
QuEnc (Audio) Parameters: -i "C:\Users\Manuel\AppData\Local\Temp\00000_0_Title_01.avs" -o "C:\Downloads\test\00000_0_Title_01.ac3" -priority 5 -1 -nohq -novbr -mpeg2mux novideo -audiocodec AC3 -audiobitrate 192 -auto -close
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<24-11-2008 18:38:17>
END AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: C:\Downloads\test\00000_0_Title_01.ac3 (187,2 MB)
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<24-11-2008 18:38:17>
START SUBS ENCODING OPERATIONS
SubtitleCreator Parameters: "C:\Users\Manuel\AppData\Local\Temp\00000_0_Title_01.srt" -p3 -i"C:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\SubtitleCreator\Examples\VTS_01_1.IFO"
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<24-11-2008 18:43:51>
PROCESS ABORTED DURING TITLE 1 SUBS ENCODING OPERATIONS.

CHECK LOG FILE <C:\DOWNLOADS\TEST\00000_0.LOG> FOR MORE INFO.
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<24-11-2008 18:43:51>
Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.1.1
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I'll try again to see if AVStoDVD going to the end next time.

MysticE

25th November 2008, 00:27

Decided it was time to road test AVStoDVD Using 2.1.1 (not the latest), by doing a few movies in hopes of helping the always gracious MrC improve his baby.

First some background. Most of the AVI/MKV's floating around are 25 fps which I convert to NTSC. The 'Trim' function is a nice touch, unfortunately you cannot use it correctly without a workaround, using the enclosed viewer to determine/change the end point.

For an x264 file I tried it says 219250 frames, yet the preview shows 262833. Due to the source being 25 fps but the final conversion being NTSC is at about 30 fps. I thought maybe right clicking the source from the main screen-> Preview title output, would yield the desired numbers vs. the Magnifier icon (original vs. final converted). It is the same though. Using Vdub 1.8.6 as the viewer shows the original source frames (219250), but there is no audio to help in picking a silent Start trim point (say to elimate a pop or extra logo). The workaround is to set my output to PAL, then I can pick the correct frame numbers to Start/End and hopefully I'll remember to set it back to NTSC before starting. To be truly useful the Trim function's frame count should match the Preview. In this case the Trim function should list 0 - 262833 as it's values. I wanted to remove over a minute of unneeded logos from the start and almost 7 minutes of unneeded stuff from the end.

Here are specs on the file I tried to convert:

Video
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L3.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 26mn
Nominal bit rate : 824 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 432 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.454
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.106
Writing library : x264 core 65 r1028M 83baa7f
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-1:-1 /

Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 720x432 (265:108) 25.00fps [Video]
Audio: AAC 48000Hz 6ch [Audio]

A file of this length can really benefit from HCenc's 2 pass encoding. Note the AR, 2.45. For some reason it isn't being picked up. The preview shows it as full screen 16:9 with no bars. This happened on 2 files of this type that I've tried.

Yet ConvertXtoDVD3 has no problems setting the correct AR. I get:

Pad 0,66,0,66
DAR 238:97 (2.453)

Adding these pad values "Video = Video.AddBorders(0,66,0,66)" into the script now corrects the AR (seems correct to the eye). A "Vertical Resize" of 63%.

I really like the "Crop" function in how it adjusts in both directions by changing only the L/R values. To partial appease my bar hating girl friend I went with values of 32 L/R. This automatically changed the Borders to 48, narrowing the bars slightly. If I wanted to appease my grandma I could go to about a 112 L/R crop for the no bars look she craves. :)

Needless to say, after the fiddling, the end result was lovely. :thanks:

@ummus

This has always been one of the Nero messages you can safely ignore. :rolleyes:
And as MrC said, IMGBurn is a much better burning software than Nero.

Cheers
manolito
I have not found this to be true, when Nero reports this, there is a problem, it is also so rare I can't remember when last I've seen it. I tend to use ImgBurn but other than the IFO/BUP 32K padding and the lack of an AUDIO_TS folder the burns seems the same. Nero Disc Quality scans also seem identical. Note I have no such messages when using Nero 7 on AVStoDVD's output.

manolito

25th November 2008, 14:40

DVD Video files reallocation failed.
This has always been one of the Nero messages you can safely ignore
I was getting this message all the time with Nero 6 when I fed it with the output of older versions of DVD-Rebuilder (free version). Just clicking "Ignore" always resulted in a DVD which worked perfectly in all my players. And I remember from the DVD-RB thread that others had this problem, too, and JDobbs always recommended to create an ISO first and then use IMGBurn. (Nero also did never complain about the ISO file).

I believe that this "reallocation" of files which Nero was trying to do is not strictly required by the DVD standard.

Cheers
manolito

manolito

25th November 2008, 14:51

@wg
DeVeDe(http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=142973) may be easy to use for a novice, but it has a known bug which produces significantly undersized encodings, this is the same for both the Linux & Windows versions(I have found even setting 5-10% oversize produces an output of between 1.8-2.3GB when used with a 7oomb quality XviD file from my own backup collection) It also only offers 1 pass encoding.

For my requirements the undersizing was not important because the total playing time would always be under 1 hour. The encoder bitrate would always max out, no way to fill the DVD completely. But out of curiosity I just tested it using a 150 min captured AVI, and the undersize was just 11% (Trellis and Rate Distortion turned off). Not that bad for a one-pass encode.

I also tried to convince DeVeDe that it should do a 2-pass encode, but no success. Adding "vpass=2" to -LAVCOPTS just resulted in an error message. Too bad...

Cheers
manolito

MysticE

25th November 2008, 20:22

I was getting this message all the time with Nero 6 when I fed it with the output of older versions of DVD-Rebuilder (free version). Just clicking "Ignore" always resulted in a DVD which worked perfectly in all my players. And I remember from the DVD-RB thread that others had this problem, too, and JDobbs always recommended to create an ISO first and then use IMGBurn. (Nero also did never complain about the ISO file).

I believe that this "reallocation" of files which Nero was trying to do is not strictly required by the DVD standard.

Cheers
manolito
You have a point, but early versions of Rebuilder were a bit problematic. The way JDobbs totally deconstructed the DVD then rebuilt it took awhile to get right. There always seemed to be certain 'workarounds' for burning etc. Yes Nero can be a bit twitchy, but when it's on a stable (and not overloaded with every burning/converting program known to man) it can do many things quickly, easily and decently. The Nero bashing seems a little unwarranted at times and based on myths that are not always accurate. I have no problems now, burning Rebuilder's folder output with Nero. I would assume this is because Rebuilder has matured.

Regards,
ME

manolito

26th November 2008, 13:28

Far be it from me to engage in Nero bashing...:)

I have the latest update of Nero 6 installed, and I do actually use it sometimes.

You may be right about Rebuilder, but in this case ummus is talking about Muxman. If you have a VIDEO_TS folder which was created by Muxman without errors (I assume that this was the case here, ummus did not mention any problems reported by Muxman), then you can be 100% sure that this VIDEO_TS folder is DVD compliant. If a burning application throws an error message while trying to burn this folder, then this application is at fault. Period.

Cheers
manolito

MrC

26th November 2008, 17:36

Absolutely! I have translated a lot of utilities into German in the past. The easiest way is when you can use standard resource files, because you can resize text boxes if the translated strings are longer than the original strings. But I believe VB does not support this.

Using indexed text files for the string resources is also workable, but then the translated strings cannot be longer than the original ones. Can be quite challenging if the target language is German...

Let's see: we could use lang text files with labels and text boxes length (twips or pxs). Quite annoying for me to implement... but effective, I believe.

well,the program just stopped when it was beginning with encoding the subs. The program have made 2 seperate files so far,1 mpeg videofile and 1 audiofile,but AVStoDVD stopped by itself and never got to author a DVD.

SRT subs broken? If you will, try load the SRT in SubtitleCreator (included in AVStoDVD package) and take a look if there are errors somewhere.

First some background. Most of the AVI/MKV's floating around are 25 fps which I convert to NTSC. The 'Trim' function is a nice touch, unfortunately you cannot use it correctly without a workaround, using the enclosed viewer to determine/change the end point.

For an x264 file I tried it says 219250 frames, yet the preview shows 262833. Due to the source being 25 fps but the final conversion being NTSC is at about 30 fps. I thought maybe right clicking the source from the main screen-> Preview title output, would yield the desired numbers vs. the Magnifier icon (original vs. final converted). It is the same though. Using Vdub 1.8.6 as the viewer shows the original source frames (219250), but there is no audio to help in picking a silent Start trim point (say to elimate a pop or extra logo). The workaround is to set my output to PAL, then I can pick the correct frame numbers to Start/End and hopefully I'll remember to set it back to NTSC before starting. To be truly useful the Trim function's frame count should match the Preview. In this case the Trim function should list 0 - 262833 as it's values. I wanted to remove over a minute of unneeded logos from the start and almost 7 minutes of unneeded stuff from the end.

You found a bug in total frame (and progress bar length) calculation in Clip Preview form when DGPulldown is used to upsize fps. Will fix it.

Note the AR, 2.45. For some reason it isn't being picked up. The preview shows it as full screen 16:9 with no bars. This happened on 2 files of this type that I've tried.

Good improvement point. I used to divide DARs in 2 families: if DAR > 1.77 then AspectRatio = 16:9 else AspectRatio = 4:3. Then I use only Horizontal and Vertical dimensions to define Crop/AddBorder.
It means that, so far, I have never correctly handled PAR different from 1... :o except AVI DV sources that have a special treatment.

:thanks: MysticE: very good review!

Bye

MrC

28th November 2008, 15:15

AVStoDVD 2.1.2 Alpha build 081128 is out (https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340&package_id=269494&release_id=643512).

Change log from previous Alpha:

- Some bugs fixed (including Clip Preview frames count bug)
- Added 'Settings'/'Misc'/'Unload DirectShow ActiveMovie library at runtime' option (might prevent crashes caused by quartz.dll)
- Added 'Title Edit'/'Video'/'Auto BitRate Calculation'. When off video bitrate can be manually set
- Added 'Menu in Black' DVD Menu template
- Improved bitrate calculation routine
- Improved DVD Menu highlights movements definition routine
- Improved source files DAR (Display Aspect Ratio) identification and management
- Improved NSIS installer package features (added components page)

Any comments or bugs reports are welcomed.

;)

Bye

Richardw322

28th November 2008, 18:12

rendez2k

28th November 2008, 20:05

Richardw322

28th November 2008, 22:29

Just tried the latest alpha of 2.1.2 and it threw an error when I went to the menu editor. I loaded the avi and then hit the menu editor and it said it can't find a file in my temp directory. Path too long to type, what am I missing? The thumbnail is the part that is wrong, it was the default instead of the frame from the movie.

rendez2k

28th November 2008, 22:34

I've had this issue before and a re-install of avisynth fixes it for me

gizzin

29th November 2008, 03:44

It's still undersizing quite abit too, this time its 120megs undersized..

MrC

29th November 2008, 09:14

I am using AVStoDVD 2.1.1, and ran into a problem. I was trying to change the frame for the thumbnail, and when I hit edit it opened the preview window. I selected the frame I wanted, and I don't know how to get back to the menu editor. If I hit exit it exits the whole program! Nothing else gets rid of the movie preview window!

Clicking on exit from Clip Preview section will exit only from Clip Preview. If you have complete program exit, I fear that AVStoDVD is crashing. Do use latest alpha: Clip Preview stability should have improved.

Also, I second the request for no thumbnail, and would like to see it extended to the movie title also. I found a JPG with the movie title in it (and it's really neat!) but if I use it I would end up with the movie title 3 times in the final menu!! The JPG one, the movie title, and the thumbnail title!!

Right now you can use a workaround: just put a "space" char in the title and thumbs label textboxes. Simple, isn't it? ;)

Just tried the latest alpha of 2.1.2 and it threw an error when I went to the menu editor. I loaded the avi and then hit the menu editor and it said it can't find a file in my temp directory. Path too long to type, what am I missing? The thumbnail is the part that is wrong, it was the default instead of the frame from the movie.

Could you please post a screenshot of the error? Tnx.

It's still undersizing quite abit too, this time its 120megs undersized..

With 2.1.2 Alpha build 081128? As usual, I need the log file, or at least more info about the project.

;)

Bye

Richardw322

29th November 2008, 16:18

MrC, I'll take this in order to save space. I upgraded to 2.1.2, and in the end it worked. The file it was loooking for was the AVISynth file, and I had to reinstall AVISynth (thanks rendez2k) and it worked fine. As for the title and movie title, I should have thought of space, but what I did was make it "The Movie" so it looks like
IRON MAN
The Movie

Like Space better, but it's done now. Works great!!!

MrC

1st December 2008, 16:01

@Richardw322

Glad to hear that you hit your target! ;)

@everybody

Have someone tried the new A2DSource function ('Settings'/'Encoding'/'AVS Source Filter')? Any issue?

:)

Bye

leoliver

8th December 2008, 00:48

Hi Everyone,

I downloaded and installed the latest version of AVStoDVD ,
and it won't start because it says I have no DVD burning hardware on my machine . But I have a external USB SONY DVD RW DRU-720A_JY08 burner. Which has always worked with other software .
But for some strange reason, the SONY DVD RW DRU-720A_JY08 shows up as a CD_RW drive in Windows Explorer , when I have a blank DVD in the drive , but when the drive is empty it reads as a DVD-RW . This has never been a problem with other software . I don't know if it's affecting AVStoDVD or not because I've never had this problem before .
But come to think of it , AVStoDVD says it doesn't detect a DVD burner even when the drive is empty.
Feedback will be appreciated .

MrC

8th December 2008, 11:17

leoliver

8th December 2008, 20:45

@leoliver

to detect DVD burning capability, I make use of a standard windows API called GetDriveType. Right now, I have not found any other (somehow) reliable and Visual Basic compatible API to do same job... sorry, no solution so far.

Btw, if AVStoDVD prompts you that on your system there is no DVD burner, it's only a warning, not a shutdown. Don't panic and go ahead. After creating VIDEO_TS/AUDIO_TS dvd structure folders, you can burn them with ImgBurn or with your favourite burning sw.

;)

Bye

Thanks for your reply . Now I have another baffling issue . When I load up a job, and then click "Start" , I always get this error message :

" <12/8/2008 01:39:16 PM>
ERROR DURING OPERATIONS: 75 - Path/File access error
<>

<12/8/2008 01:39:17 PM>
PROCESS ABORTED. "

I've never been able to get past this . How can I fix this ?

MrC

9th December 2008, 09:25

Now I have another baffling issue . When I load up a job, and then click "Start" , I always get this error message :

" <12/8/2008 01:39:16 PM>
ERROR DURING OPERATIONS: 75 - Path/File access error
<>

<12/8/2008 01:39:17 PM>
PROCESS ABORTED. "

I've never been able to get past this . How can I fix this ?

It seems that some input files or output folder is missing or unreachable. To better understand the problem, I need the full log file and the project .a2d file.

;)

Bye

leoliver

9th December 2008, 18:34

It seems that some input files or output folder is missing or unreachable. To better understand the problem, I need the full log file and the project .a2d file.

;)

Bye

Here are the files you requested . I also want to say that I also tried AVI2DVD and DVDFlick and neither of those programs would work either.
In the past I have always used Nero Vision for AVI to DVD encoding. I also have FFDShow , (the latest stable version) , MediaCoder and MediaCoder Audio on my WinXP Pro SP3 computer. Along with Nero Show-time , WMP 11 and Media Player Classic 6.4.9.1 for playback.
And I recently updated my DirectX , to the November2008 update.
Thanks again for your on-going help with this issue .

Richardw322

10th December 2008, 03:38

MrC

10th December 2008, 09:39

Just ran into a small problem. I tried to run AVSTODVD 2.1.2 on a rather long MKV file, to try to fit it on a DVD 5 disk, and it comes out to 4436 instead of 4435. Think it's too big for a DVD 5. Anything I can do? Other thasn go to DVD (? I am not so sure about layer breaks and stuff. I also want to rip to ISO, then run IMGBurn myself.

It is not a real problem. DVD5 size is:

4'700'372'992 Byte or
4'590'208 KByte or
4'482 MByte

I have decided to put 4'435 MB (equal to 99% of DVD5 size) as "safe" size. Thus, 4'436 MB is absolutely OK and you can safely burn your DVD.

;)

Bye

MrC

10th December 2008, 09:48

Here are the files you requested . I also want to say that I also tried AVI2DVD and DVDFlick and neither of those programs would work either.
In the past I have always used Nero Vision for AVI to DVD encoding. I also have FFDShow , (the latest stable version) , MediaCoder and MediaCoder Audio on my WinXP Pro SP3 computer. Along with Nero Show-time , WMP 11 and Media Player Classic 6.4.9.1 for playback.
And I recently updated my DirectX , to the November2008 update.
Thanks again for your on-going help with this issue .

I need just another file: go to output folder and locate a .log file. Attach it here.

I have noticed that the input file pathname:C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\project tunes & videos\The Believe\The Believe.avi contains a special char ("&"). As a suggestion of mine, never use special chars because their handling is not simple and can cause a lot of problems.

;)

Bye

leoliver

10th December 2008, 22:13

I need just another file: go to output folder and locate a .log file. Attach it here.

I have noticed that the input file pathname: contains a special char ("&"). As a suggestion of mine, never use special chars because their handling is not simple and can cause a lot of problems.

;)

Bye

I'll change the name of the folder , and replace the "&" with "and".
I received a upload error message , when I tried to attach the project log file. It said that I have already uploaded a file with that name. I changed the name of the log file, but I still received the same upload attachment error message .
So as a work- a-around , I've copied and pasted the .log file .
.......................

" <12/9/2008 11:16:13 AM>
ERROR DURING OPERATIONS: 75 - Path/File access error
<>

<12/9/2008 11:16:13 AM>
PROCESS ABORTED.
<>

<12/9/2008 11:16:39 AM>
ERROR DURING OPERATIONS: 75 - Path/File access error
<>

<12/9/2008 11:16:39 AM>
PROCESS ABORTED.
<>

"
Thanks for your help .

MrC

10th December 2008, 22:22

@leoliver

trying to replicate your issue, I have found a bug in 2.1.2 Alpha: when inserting a special char (i.e. ENTER or chr(31)+chr(10)) in DVD Title Label from DVD Menu Editor, it comes out same error message as yours. Is that the case?

Of course I will fix in next release.

:confused:

Bye

Richardw322

10th December 2008, 23:47

It is not a real problem. DVD5 size is:

4'700'372'992 Byte or
4'590'208 KByte or
4'482 MByte

I have decided to put 4'435 MB (equal to 99% of DVD5 size) as "safe" size. Thus, 4'436 MB is absolutely OK and you can safely burn your DVD.

;)

Bye
Good to know, I got worried when it turned red. A cosmetic change, how about it turns yellow at 4436 (as in "watch it your getting close") and then red at 4482 ( You are in trouble) If it wouldn't bee a lot of trouble.

Another suggestion, I already have IMGBurn installed in my system. Would it be possible to have the installer handle IMG like it does AVISYNTH, as an option? More cosmetics, but it's as good as commercial stuff now!

MrC

11th December 2008, 17:42

Good to know, I got worried when it turned red. A cosmetic change, how about it turns yellow at 4436 (as in "watch it your getting close") and then red at 4482 ( You are in trouble) If it wouldn't bee a lot of trouble.

Another suggestion, I already have IMGBurn installed in my system. Would it be possible to have the installer handle IMG like it does AVISYNTH, as an option? More cosmetics, but it's as good as commercial stuff now!

Both of them are good (and quite easy to add) suggestions.

:thanks:

Bye

MrC

11th December 2008, 17:47

leoliver

11th December 2008, 18:18

Hubbabub

11th December 2008, 18:29

AVStoDVD 2.1.2 Final is out (https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340&package_id=269494).

I think you linked it to the wrong place
(you linked it to the Alpha release)

This is the link to the 2.1.2 Final release :)
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340&package_id=233646&release_id=646500

MrC

11th December 2008, 19:11

@Hubbabub

ops, sorry for it

;)

Bye

MysticE

11th December 2008, 21:08

AVStoDVD 2.1.2 Final is out (https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340&package_id=233646).

Change log from previous Alpha:

- Several bugs fixed
- Added 'Settings'/'Advanced'/'Edit Encoder Command Parameters at runtime' option

As you can see, very few news but much more reliability

;)

Bye

A quick question if I may, concerning the Install vs. the NoInstall versions. I usually always uninstall programs before installing a new version. How would I use the NoInstall one, and will the end result be Identical to a full Install?

Thanks

gizzin

11th December 2008, 21:38

A quick question if I may, concerning the Install vs. the NoInstall versions. I usually always uninstall programs before installing a new version. How would I use the NoInstall one, and will the end result be Identical to a full Install?

Thanks

Full Install = System files, shortcuts
NoInstall = no shortcuts, no system files

But if you already installed it once, you all the necessary system files. So you could just download the noinstall, and extract it and run it from the desktop or where ever. I guess its just a matter of preference for the user.

leoliver

12th December 2008, 06:51

@Hubbabub

ops, sorry for it

;)

Bye

Does the (2008-12-11 16:21) version contain fixes for the problems I posted ?

MrC

12th December 2008, 08:55

MrC

12th December 2008, 08:57

Does the (2008-12-11 16:21) version contain fixes for the problems I posted ?

If the problem was caused from special chars in DVD Menu Title label, yes, it does.

:)

Bye

leoliver

12th December 2008, 16:59

If the problem was caused from special chars in DVD Menu Title label, yes, it does.

:)

Bye

I'll give the new version a try today . Thanks .

ggtop

13th December 2008, 00:43

Hi, if the dialog with the input box for entering custom size is closed with the button "Cancel" I get an error to choose a numeric value even if the value is already numeric (4200 in my case).

But...great piece of software.

MrC

13th December 2008, 10:36

@ggtop

thanks for the small bug report

;)

Bye

manolito

14th December 2008, 15:51

Hi MrC,

just finished a couple of tests using the current stable version 2.12. Nice...:)
I especially love the option to edit encoder parameters before starting the encode. In many cases I prefer different settings than the defaults, and this new option makes it real easy. (BTW do you have a special reason to set BIAS=80 for HC 2-pass VBR? This is almost CBR, I usually use a value of 20, maybe 30).

I could not detect any stability issues with the clip preview window, it did not matter at all if I had specified to unload the ActiveMovie library or not.

The program did crash a couple of times though, mainly after I changed some settings with a source still loaded. Instead of telling me that the project parameters would have to be reset now the program just shut itself down a couple of times. No big deal...

And I found a DirectShowSource issue which I cannot explain. In my tests I used a small VOB from a DVD as my source. Your A2DSource plugin decided to open the VOB with DirectShowSource, and this worked fine with QuEnc and HC 1-pass mode. But when I selected HC 2-pass VBR mode HC would start and just hang. No HC error messages, nothing in the log file. Also nothing running in the background using up CPU time. Weird! Forcing ffmpegSource on the same input file and all other settings unchanged did work.

Now I am used to open MPEG2 files by indexing them first and using MPEG2Source. I have read many times that DirectShowSource can cause a lot of problems with MPEG2 files, and I have no idea how reliable ffmpegSource handles MPEG2 input. I remember reading that there are memory leaks occurring while indexing the source files.

If ffmpegSource is considered to be reliable, maybe you could change the search order in your A2DSource plugin and try ffmpegSource before DirectShowSource?

Cheers
manolito

leoliver

14th December 2008, 20:41

I'll give the new version a try today . Thanks .

I tried the latest version and still had the same problem of the encoding process being aborted as soon as I click on the start button . I tried experimenting with different settings and I always got the same failure .
And I think it is because AVStoDVD can't detect my USB connected external DVD burner. Somehow it's causing a malfunction .
AVStoDVD isn't the only encoder that I have failures with.
DVD Flick also failed to work on my machine.
MediaCoder does work and so does Nero Vision .
Today I used Nero Vision Version: 4.9.7.6 to encode and burn a AVI file to a DVD . Although the process with Nero Vision was successful , the log file did show one error.................

"[11:47:30] DVDEngine WARNING: DVDENGINE VOBS VERIFY ERROR 0001
[11:47:30] DVDEngine VOBU at RLBN 1776507 (VOB_IDN=1, C_IDN=42, VOBU_S_PTM=453598324, VOBU_E_PTM=453627124)
[11:47:30] DVDEngine Presentation time of VOBU is 28800 ticks (0.3200 s), but must be at least 36000 ticks
[11:47:30] DVDEngine (0.4000 s). "

I posted the error because I thought it might give you some clue as to why AVStoDVD doesn't start on my computer .
I don't know because I'm far from being a expert on this subject.
Even though I haven't any luck with AVStoDVD on my computer , I still think it's a great piece of software with just a few bugs that haven't worked out yet. But I'm confident that the bugs will be taken care of .

MrC

15th December 2008, 11:46

Hi manolito

I especially love the option to edit encoder parameters before starting the encode. In many cases I prefer different settings than the defaults, and this new option makes it real easy. (BTW do you have a special reason to set BIAS=80 for HC 2-pass VBR? This is almost CBR, I usually use a value of 20, maybe 30).

As a matter of fact, bias is dinamically calculated based upon output avg video bitrate. Formula is:
CStr(CInt(.VideoBitRate / 1000)) & "0"

I mean: if bitrate is high, prox to max (9000), then VBR encoding will be near CBR. If bitrate is low, then VBR span must be maximized.

I have not put any explanation in the help section, because I have never thought to find expert users like you. :)

And I found a DirectShowSource issue which I cannot explain. In my tests I used a small VOB from a DVD as my source. Your A2DSource plugin decided to open the VOB with DirectShowSource, and this worked fine with QuEnc and HC 1-pass mode. But when I selected HC 2-pass VBR mode HC would start and just hang. No HC error messages, nothing in the log file. Also nothing running in the background using up CPU time. Weird! Forcing ffmpegSource on the same input file and all other settings unchanged did work.

That's very strange! CBR and 1-VBR are ok but 2-VBR not! :confused:
I wonder if the problem is coming from DSS or HC or a combination of them. Maybe we should involve hank...
Could you send me the VOB sample (avstodvd@gmail.com)?

Now I am used to open MPEG2 files by indexing them first and using MPEG2Source. I have read many times that DirectShowSource can cause a lot of problems with MPEG2 files, and I have no idea how reliable ffmpegSource handles MPEG2 input. I remember reading that there are memory leaks occurring while indexing the source files.

If ffmpegSource is considered to be reliable, maybe you could change the search order in your A2DSource plugin and try ffmpegSource before DirectShowSource?

Yes, unfortunately ffmpegsource is still in a development stage, I would not put as a first choice. Not yet.

What about adding both in A2DSource and in the code the support to Nic's mpegsource.dll (http://nic.dnsalias.com/mpegdecoder.html)? It performs automatically mpeg indexing and d2v generation, so there is no need of DGIndex/DGDecode.

Early AVStoDVD releases included mpegsource, but I gave up its support hoping that DSS would be more "general" and reliable. Let's hope that 2.5.8 DSS will be improved.

;)

Bye

MrC

15th December 2008, 11:55

I tried the latest version and still had the same problem of the encoding process being aborted as soon as I click on the start button . I tried experimenting with different settings and I always got the same failure .
And I think it is because AVStoDVD can't detect my USB connected external DVD burner. Somehow it's causing a malfunction .
AVStoDVD isn't the only encoder that I have failures with.
DVD Flick also failed to work on my machine.
MediaCoder does work and so does Nero Vision .
Today I used Nero Vision Version: 4.9.7.6 to encode and burn a AVI file to a DVD . Although the process with Nero Vision was successful , the log file did show one error.................

"[11:47:30] DVDEngine WARNING: DVDENGINE VOBS VERIFY ERROR 0001
[11:47:30] DVDEngine VOBU at RLBN 1776507 (VOB_IDN=1, C_IDN=42, VOBU_S_PTM=453598324, VOBU_E_PTM=453627124)
[11:47:30] DVDEngine Presentation time of VOBU is 28800 ticks (0.3200 s), but must be at least 36000 ticks
[11:47:30] DVDEngine (0.4000 s). "

I posted the error because I thought it might give you some clue as to why AVStoDVD doesn't start on my computer .
I don't know because I'm far from being a expert on this subject.
Even though I haven't any luck with AVStoDVD on my computer , I still think it's a great piece of software with just a few bugs that haven't worked out yet. But I'm confident that the bugs will be taken care of .

Thanks for the trial and the feedback. Let's make some general troubleshooting:

1. What is your Operating System?
2. What kind of video/audio codec have you installed?
3. Have you tried AVStoDVD with other computers?
4. Have you tried several input files or just always the same one?
5. Have you tried removing your USB burner before launching AVStoDVD (the programs works even without a burner)?
6. Does the preview clip function work?

Let me know

;)

Bye

leoliver

15th December 2008, 17:48

Thanks for the trial and the feedback. Let's make some general troubleshooting:

1. What is your Operating System?
2. What kind of video/audio codec have you installed?
3. Have you tried AVStoDVD with other computers?
4. Have you tried several input files or just always the same one?
5. Have you tried removing your USB burner before launching AVStoDVD (the programs works even without a burner)?
6. Does the preview clip function work?

Let me know

;)

Bye

1. WinXP Pro SP3

2. I've attached 2-logs . One from Nero info tool , the from K-Lite Codec Tweak Tool . They probably contain more info than you need, but they do list my installed Codecs .

3. No , I only have one computer .

4. I've tried many different AVI files.

5. I have failures with or without the burner attached.

6. Yes I have no problem playing previews .

I remember , while trying "DVD Fick" , that I received a warning message saying that "Anydvd" could cause "DVD Flick"
to crash.
So I uninstall ed "Anydvd" before trying "AVStoDVD" again. But I still received the same process aborted message.
Also, I noticed that FFDShow video decoder would come on when I started to build the DVD menu with "AVStoDVD" .
So I configured FFDShow video decoder not to work with "AVStoDVD" . I still received the same process aborted warning, but the DVD menu process worked much faster without FFDShow video decoder .

MrC

15th December 2008, 18:08

@leoliver

Just make this trial:
- select "No Menu" from 'Settings'/'DVD Menu'/'Select DVD Menu Style'
- add one media file (as short as possible, for time saving)
- press start

If everything works fine you should have a DVD structure (VIDEO_TS/AUDIO_TS) with only the movie, playable by MPC and burnable by your burner.

Let's understand if the problem is into the encoding section or into DVD Menu handling routines.

;)

Bye

manolito

15th December 2008, 22:02

@MrC

Results of some extensive testing:

First of all, this probably only has academic value. If your source is a VOB file then in the real world you can safely assume that this source is already DVD compliant and does not need to be reencoded. For my tests I forced reencoding by unchecking the "Keep DVD compliant Video" option.

First I thought that my older DirectShowSource.dll from AviSynth 2.56 was to blame. Not so. I installed AviSynth 2.57 and 2.58 RC4, and this made no difference at all.

I also tried HCenc 0.24 beta, and there also was no difference.
(BTW be prepared to throw away your 1-pass HC mode. The upcoming version of HC has its own 1-pass mode which leaves everything else in the dust...:o)

I think I finally found a pattern of this weird behaviour. As I already said, HC 1-pass mode and QuEnc always work, the problems only happen in HC 2-pass VBR mode. And this has something to do with the way the original VOBs were authored. My own DVDs are always authored with MuxMan (using BatchMux), and they all fail. The commercial DVDs I tried show an unpredictable behaviour. For some all of the VOBs work, for most of them only some VOBs work and others do not.

Again, this has no importance for real world conversions. But it shows that my reluctance to use DirectShowSource is justified. I try to avoid it as much as I can.

Cheers
manolito

MrC

15th December 2008, 23:05

@manolito

thanks for your extensive testing and for your report.

I have to say that I have tried several VOB input files, produced by MuxMan/BatchMux and TDA3 and I really could not find any error in using DSS (AVS 2.5.7) + HCenc VBR 2pass. :confused:
Maybe if you can send me a short VOB sample, I could try to replicate the error.

BTW I agree with you that DSS should be the last resort when dedicated source function cannot be use. That's why I have written A2DSource and I would like to improve it, to leave DSS and ffmpegsource as last chances.

About HCenc 0.24 *1PASS... I know... hank sent me the preview release too and it is really impressive, both in quality output and in size targeting. Maybe he can do some improvement on speed, because from my tests, OPV 1-pass is a little bit faster even if it is not accurate and it has the major issue that when many frames require low quantizer values, everything goes to hell.

;)

Bye

manolito

16th December 2008, 00:08

Hi MrC,

just sent you a small VOB via email which consistently freezes HC 2-pass mode. I don't know if this is important, but when previewing this VOB in DGIndex it jumps between progressive and interlaced all the time. The reason for this is that I encoded it using HC's Auto Interlaced feature (if you do not specify interlaced or progressive, HC will analyze the source and decide frame by frame if it should encode interlaced or progressive).

Cheers
manolito

leoliver

16th December 2008, 07:46

MysticE

16th December 2008, 12:39

manolito

16th December 2008, 14:39

OK guys, I found it...:o

It is not DirectShowSource, it is HC. AVStoDVD always writes the *AVSRELOAD parameter into the HC.ini file, and this freezes HC on my machine. My computer is a little old and slow, and it does not have very much RAM (Intel Celeron 1.1 GHz Coppermine, 512 MB RAM), but until now I never had any stability issues with HC (well, I never used the AVSRELOAD parameter until now).

So it would be nice to have another option added to the HC advanced settings which allows me to uncheck AVSRELOAD.

Cheers
manolito

MrC

16th December 2008, 15:23

OK guys, I found it...:o

Great! I am very happy to read you found the cause. :)

So it would be nice to have another option added to the HC advanced settings which allows me to uncheck AVSRELOAD.

Do you think that editing command parameters at runtime (and delete *AVSRELOAD line) is not enough? I'm asking you that because HC advanced settings can be accessed only thru 'Edit Title' window and that settings are temporary for current project, just like editing command parameters...

;)

Bye

MrC

16th December 2008, 16:08

manolito

16th December 2008, 17:50

@MrC
Do you think that editing command parameters at runtime (and delete *AVSRELOAD line) is not enough? I'm asking you that because HC advanced settings can be accessed only thru 'Edit Title' window and that settings are temporary for current project, just like editing command parameters...
Yeah, you're right, it does not make much of a difference. I would probably prefer a method which could make this setting permanent. As far as I remember Hank introduced this parameter as some kind of workaround for cases where a mismatch between the two passes would occur. By default HC does not use the AVSRELOAD parameter. So my preference would be that AVStoDVD also had this parameter turned off by default and just give users a way to turn it on permanently if they experience problems (maybe even enable the LOSSLESS mode if AVSRELOAD does not help).

Cheers
manolito

leoliver

16th December 2008, 19:48

@leoliver

go on with the simple project (one small clip - no menu). To reduce unknown variables, be sure that the small clip has a "standard" name and path (i.e. c:\movies\clip.avi), the output folder has a "standard" path (i.e. c:\movies) and if you save the project, its pathname is "standard" as well (i.e. c:\movies\project.a2d).

After pressing START, do you get the project summary message window (like this (http://avstodvd.googlepages.com/SummaryWindowMsgBox.png))?

It should not have an impact to this particular issue, but, I have taken a look to the attached codecs list and it is amazing! You really have hundreds of them! Do you really need them all? For 99% of application ffdshow should be enough.

;)

Bye

I tried again , with edited file names and experienced the same failure .
I have never seen the message window you posted. It hasn't came up on my computer. I'm posting 2-files showing the active AVStoDVD windows from my last test.
I do have allot of Codecs . There installed along with audio/video software I installed. Most came from MediaCoder's Codecs pack. But allot were from other software installs.
I haven't sorted them out because I'm worried about deleting ones I might need.

MysticE

16th December 2008, 22:20

I tried again , with edited file names and experienced the same failure .
I have never seen the message window you posted. It hasn't came up on my computer. I'm posting 2-files showing the active AVStoDVD windows from my last test.
I do have allot of Codecs . There installed along with audio/video software I installed. Most came from MediaCoder's Codecs pack. But allot were from other software installs.
I haven't sorted them out because I'm worried about deleting ones I might need.
I'm afraid you have a major system wide problem, seeing as many apps don't work. Codec problems can be very hard to sort once they start. It is for this reason that I am very careful not to randomly install various vid apps. This is also where an Imaging program like Acronis can be a life saver. You can always have fresh image handy to restore in case of problems.

You'll have to start "sorting them out".

You might try uninstalling any unneeded apps. You could also try this app and look for 'broken' codecs.

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/Codec_Sniper

You might also try this app and check what it has to say.

http://paul.glagla.free.fr/filmerit_en.htm

You have to be careful, but maybe you'll see some common problems between the two.

Although I don't have any experience with it, for some it has been reported that the K-lite codec pack can sometimes fix/repair some issues with it's Repair function.

leoliver

17th December 2008, 07:09

I'm afraid you have a major system wide problem, seeing as many apps don't work. Codec problems can be very hard to sort once they start. It is for this reason that I am very careful not to randomly install various vid apps. This is also where an Imaging program like Acronis can be a life saver. You can always have fresh image handy to restore in case of problems.

You'll have to start "sorting them out".

You might try uninstalling any unneeded apps. You could also try this app and look for 'broken' codecs.

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/Codec_Sniper

You might also try this app and check what it has to say.

http://paul.glagla.free.fr/filmerit_en.htm

You have to be careful, but maybe you'll see some common problems between the two.

Although I don't have any experience with it, for some it has been reported that the K-lite codec pack can sometimes fix/repair some issues with it's Repair function.

I'll start to work on my codec problem. I fact one codec pack I installed for WMP 11 had a recent update available, and I declined the update after reading your last post.
I'll work on just using FFDShow for my codecs .
Thanks for your help. I'll let you know when I make some progress on solving this problem.

MrC

17th December 2008, 16:15

@manolito

frankly speaking, I do not think to add default HCenc settings change possibility, because AVStoDVD is not a HC GUI, but a one-click-solution for best mpeg2 encoding apps. I mean: today you are asking me to add *AVSRELOAD setting, tomorrow someone else another parameter, and so on... I believe you can understand me...
Another point, more general: if a currently developed sw (HCenc) does not handle properly an internal error (avs reload on low memory system), why a "third part" sw (AVStoDVD) should take care of it? I would ask hank to solve the problem from the root cause. Do you agree?

@leoliver

I have uploaded a very alpha (http://avstodvd.googlepages.com/AVStoDVD_213_Alpha081217_exe_only.7z) release of AVStoDVD 2.1.3 (exe only) which contains a lot of new debug instructions.
Download it, unzip it, overwrite current exe and start again your simple project. Copy and past here the log file.

;)

Bye

leoliver

18th December 2008, 07:47

@leoliver

I have uploaded a very alpha (http://avstodvd.googlepages.com/AVStoDVD_213_Alpha081217_exe_only.7z) release of AVStoDVD 2.1.3 (exe only) which contains a lot of new debug instructions.
Download it, unzip it, overwrite current exe and start again your simple project. Copy and past here the log file.

;)

Bye[/QUOTE]

SUCCESS , your new ALPHA build fixed the problem!!!

I ran the same small test clip tonight , and the process worked. It produced a "DVD folder" that when played on my copy of the SMPlayer , had very good audio and video playback . And it seemed to work at a good rate of speed.
The FFDShow filter popped up twice during the process.
I clicked use once on the first instance and don't use once on the 2nd instance . I think the 1st instance was during the video encoding and the 2nd instance was at the start of the audio encoding . It made me a little nervous , because I was anxious that the wrong answer would mess up the process after it started.
I did download the two Codecs repair tools you mentioned in a previous reply . One showed, one broken Codecs and the other tool showed 5 broken Codecs . The tools showed different Codecs as being broken , so I still haven't decided on a course of action for that problem.
But your new ALPHA build worked well regardless .
I'm attached 2 screen shot attachments , and below is the LOG file for the successful process ....................

" <12/17/2008 11:55:06 PM>
START PROCESS
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<12/17/2008 11:55:06 PM>
DVD SETTINGS
DVD Titles number: 1
DVD Video Standard: NTSC
DVD Chapters Interval: 5 min
DVD Menu: No DVD Menu
DVD Size: 363/4435 MB (8%)
DVD Output Setup: DVD Folder

Delete Temp Process Files: Yes
Delete Working Files: Yes
Edit Command Parameters: No
Save Log file: Yes
Output Folder: C:\output
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<12/17/2008 11:55:06 PM>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: C:\input\clip.avi
Info: XviD - 1312 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.333 - 29.97 fps - PPF - 5:47 minutes - 10414 frames
Audio: C:\input\clip.avi
Info: MPEG-1 Audio layer 3 - 128 kbps - CBR - 48000Hz - 2ch - 5:47 minutes
Subs:
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.7.8]
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<12/17/2008 11:55:06 PM>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Import("C:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")

Video = A2DVideoSource("C:\input\clip.avi", CacheFolder = "C:\WINDOWS\TEMP")
Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,480)

Audio = A2DAudioSource("C:\input\clip.avi", CacheFolder = "C:\WINDOWS\TEMP")

AudioDub(Video, Audio)
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<12/17/2008 11:55:06 PM>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: QuEnc CBR 1-pass
Target Video FileSize: 351.6 MB
QuEnc Parameters: -i "C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\clip_0_Title_01.avs" -o "C:\output\clip_0_Title_01.m2v" -b 8500 -1 -hq -novbr -scene -trell -aspectratio 4:3 -nointerlaced -mpeg2mux noaudio -dc 10 -priority 5 -auto -close
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<12/18/2008 12:01:13 AM>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: C:\output\clip_0_Title_01.m2v (352 MB)
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<12/18/2008 12:01:13 AM>
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO:
Filename: clip_0_Title_01
Filesize: 369139784 Byte
Format: MPEG Video
Time: 5:47 minutes
Compression: MPEG-2 Video
AvgBitRate: 8507
Resolution: 720x480
Aspect Ratio: 1.333
FPS: 29.970
Interlacement: PPF
Frames: 10404
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<12/18/2008 12:01:13 AM>
START AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
QuEnc (Audio) Parameters: -i "C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\clip_0_Title_01.avs" -o "C:\output\clip_0_Title_01.ac3" -priority 5 -1 -nohq -novbr -mpeg2mux novideo -audiocodec AC3 -audiobitrate 192 -auto -close
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<12/18/2008 12:01:56 AM>
END AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: C:\output\clip_0_Title_01.ac3 (8 MB)
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<12/18/2008 12:01:56 AM>
START DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
BatchMux Parameters: -arglist "C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\clip_0_BatchMux.ini"
BatchMux ini file:
-d "C:\output\clip_0\VIDEO_TS"
-mxp "C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\clip_0_MuxMan.mxp"
-l "C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\clip_0_MuxMan.log"
-muxman "C:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\MuxMan"
-prio LOW
-v "C:\output\clip_0_Title_01.m2v"
-vidmode 4:3
-a1 "C:\output\clip_0_Title_01.ac3"
-a1lang en
-cellfr "C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\clip_0_Title_01_MuxMan.txt"
-progfr "C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\clip_0_Title_01_MuxMan.txt"
-chapfr "C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\clip_0_Title_01_MuxMan.txt"

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<12/18/2008 12:04:53 AM>
END DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
Created Folder: C:\output\clip_0 (367.3 MB)
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<12/18/2008 12:04:54 AM>
Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.1.3 Alpha (build 081217)
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Keep me posted . And thanks again for your hard work ,
AVStoDVD is a great piece of software .

leoliver

18th December 2008, 19:50

Hi Everyone,

On my last reply I tried to post 2-images but they didn't show up . I'm trying to post the images again . I may have went over my attachment quota limit , so will delete some older image attachments.

Guest

19th December 2008, 05:52

No, it was just 250K of screenshots showing that things work for you now. Is that really necessary? You can just say "it's working".

For large attachments we prefer people to use image hosts anyway.

MrC

19th December 2008, 08:43

@leoliver

glad to hear that everything is working now... but do not leave your satisfaction to overwhelm Doom9 server....

;) :D

Bye

leoliver

19th December 2008, 18:10

No, it was just 250K of screenshots showing that things work for you now. Is that really necessary? You can just say "it's working".

For large attachments we prefer people to use image hosts anyway.

@leoliver

glad to hear that everything is working now... but do not leave your satisfaction to overwhelm Doom9 server....

;) :D

Bye

Point taken . I guess I got a little carried away because I was happy that the new version solved my encoding problem.
So I will try this method to display the images .................

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8751/successfullprojectep0.jpg

and also ....................

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7476/successfullprogressgy6.jpg

I think this approach should be "server" friendly .
Let me know if there are any problems .
Thanks.

MrC

19th December 2008, 20:29

@leoliver,

ok thanks again for the feedback. Now you can go on and explore Menu Editing and the other AVStoDVD features

;)

Bye

leoliver

21st December 2008, 19:26

When I'm using AVStoDVD , FFDShow pops up and asks me if I want to use it with AVStoDVD . The FFDShow pops ups occur at both the start of AVStoDVD video encoding and audio encoding segments. Sometimes I answer yes to FFDShow and sometimes I answer no .
So my question is , will FFDShow make AVStoDVD encode better or faster ? Or does FFDShow provide no useful support to AVStoDVD ?
Thanks.

MrC

22nd December 2008, 12:13

ffdshow is a set of directshow decoder filters, it is used to decode the input file you feed into AVStoDVD. Then AVStoDVD will encode it (thru QuEnc or HCenc) to MPEG2-DVD standard.

The choice to use (or not) ffdshow is yours. You should base your decision upon visual yield and decoding capability.

BTW, if you decide that ffdshow is your choice, I suggest you to answer "always" when ffdshow pops up.

;)

Bye

MrC

22nd December 2008, 17:08

A question to all users.

Since I am trying to reduce AVStoDVD trend to become a fat suite, what do you think if I remove from the package ImgBurn and add a routine to use ImgBurn only if it is already installed in the system? Something like DVDShrink usage of Nero/DVDDecrypter.

I think that most of AVStoDVD users should have ImgBurn normally installed...

;)

Bye

rendez2k

22nd December 2008, 17:09

aiannar974

22nd December 2008, 22:05

Hello - I am visinting my inlaws this holiday and they have a harddisk camcorder that stores in mpeg-2 format. I think if I understand the camcorder, every hit of play and stop created a video clip. I do not have it in front of me to confirm but I know they would like to create dvds from the files, but would like a menu that would maybe be for all of jan of 2008 not one for each clip. Is this possible with AVStoDVD? I downloaded it recently and tried it with a few video clips I had and I cannot seem to find this option. In general, i think AVStoDVD is very intuative and I think they would understand it.

Any input would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Anthony

MrC

23rd December 2008, 18:43

manolito

23rd December 2008, 19:54

@aiannar974
AFAIK most "Anything2DVD" converters only allow one source file per title. The one exception I am aware of is Devede for Windows. Check it out...

Cheers
manolito

Sir Didymus

23rd December 2008, 22:57

...what do you think if I remove from the package ImgBurn and add a routine to use ImgBurn only if it is already installed in the system?

Very good idea, imho...

...AVStoDVD cannot merge more files into one title. If you want to use AVStoDVD, you have to join all the "Jan" clip together and then feed the "big" file as a title to AVStoDVD...

I feel the clip joining capability is an important feature...
Could you consider its inclusion in the wish list for AVStoDVD?

MysticE

24th December 2008, 13:03

The latest version of ConvertXtoDVD will join files, and subs also. It is by far the best app of it's type.

ricardo.santos

24th December 2008, 13:19

The latest version of ConvertXtoDVD will join files

i could be wrong but i think what it does is just "plain play one title after each other", to the user watching dvd it seems they are joined but its just an "illusion".

ricardo.santos

24th December 2008, 13:23

Could you leave it in, in the "portable version"?

Richardw322

24th December 2008, 23:15

MysticE

25th December 2008, 02:40

i could be wrong but i think what it does is just "plain play one title after each other", to the user watching dvd it seems they are joined but its just an "illusion".
Not true. CXD3 is a very cool app that truly merges, no illusions, and it pretty much works for everything without worry about codecs/filters.

MrC

25th December 2008, 15:57

I feel the clip joining capability is an important feature...
Could you consider its inclusion in the wish list for AVStoDVD?

I will add it. You know, such a feature would require the development of multi page menu (a page for titles selection and more pages for clips selection). It will take some time.

;)

Bye

MrC

25th December 2008, 16:00

The latest version of ConvertXtoDVD will join files, and subs also. It is by far the best app of it's type.

Well, it depends on a lot of variables: quality of input sources, quality of output, menu complexity, money in your wallet (CXD is not free)... Be careful to use the word "best" without defining the whole situation.

;)

Bye

MrC

25th December 2008, 16:05

Could you leave it in, in the "portable version"?

Installer package: ImgBurn will be kept, no more barely copied but as installer itself, like AviSynth right now. During installation, if ImgBurn is detected it will not be installed (by default). Viceversa it will.

NoInstall package: ImgBurn will be removed.

At runtime, if AVStoDVD detects ImgBurn, then ISO building and DVD burning will be enabled. Otherwise they will be grayed.

What do you think?

;)

Bye

Richardw322

25th December 2008, 17:24

Installer package: ImgBurn will be kept, no more barely copied but as installer itself, like AviSynth right now. During installation, if ImgBurn is detected it will not be installed (by default). Viceversa it will.

NoInstall package: ImgBurn will be removed.

At runtime, if AVStoDVD detects ImgBurn, then ISO building and DVD burning will be enabled. Otherwise they will be grayed.

What do you think?

;)

Bye

Sounds good to me, but I like to build the ISO, and then test in Demon Tools before I burn it. Of course, I could change the option. What would happen with your default if I ran AVStoDVD and forgot to put a blank in to burn? Just a thought.

MysticE

25th December 2008, 19:11

Well, it depends on a lot of variables: quality of input sources, quality of output, menu complexity, money in your wallet (CXD is not free)... Be careful to use the word "best" without defining the whole situation.

;)

Bye
By it's type I meant commercial (basically one click) programs like WinAvi, DVD Santa, Xilisoft etc.

No offense to you and your app which I always recommend over FAVC, Avi2Dvd, The Film Machine, DVDFlick etc.

marcusmd

26th December 2008, 23:29

I've recently tried to use AVStoDVD for the first time. my first 3 or 4 attempts have resulted in errors during the authoring process.
I am trying to convert some AVI's to DVD using the TS folder sys. I hate to be just another guy asking for help, but it seems that most of the posts that may address my problem are technically over my head. I've used a few simple programs to convert avi's to dvd before, but it was a few years ago, so i'm kinda rusty. the error referenced the log files, so i'll post them here. Any help would be great. Thanks in advance.
***********
LOG FILE:
<12/26/2008 4:04:07 PM>
START PROCESS
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<12/26/2008 4:04:07 PM>
DVD SETTINGS
DVD Titles number: 1
DVD Video Standard: NTSC
DVD Chapters Interval: 20 min
DVD Menu: Static DVD Menu
DVD Size: 1489/4435 MB (34%)
DVD Output Setup: DVD Folder

Delete Temp Process Files: Yes
Delete Working Files: Yes
Edit Command Parameters: No
Save Log file: Yes
Output Folder: E:\Documents and Settings\***\My Documents\NewDVD
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<12/26/2008 4:04:07 PM>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: G:\*Lets Get Drunk And Eat Chicken Fingers [digi.avi
Info: XviD - 881 kbps - 640x480 - DAR 1.333 - 29.97 fps - PPF - 23:42 minutes - 42646 frames
Audio: G:\*Lets Get Drunk And Eat Chicken Fingers [digi.avi
Info: MPEG-1 Audio layer 3 - 128 kbps - CBR - 44100Hz - 2ch - 23:42 minutes
Subs:
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.7.8]
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<12/26/2008 4:04:07 PM>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Import("E:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")

Video = A2DVideoSource("G:\*Lets Get Drunk And Eat Chicken Fingers [digi.avi", CacheFolder = "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp")
Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,480)

Audio = A2DAudioSource("G:\*Lets Get Drunk And Eat Chicken Fingers [digi.avi", CacheFolder = "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp")
Audio = Audio.SSRC(48000)

AudioDub(Video, Audio)
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<12/26/2008 4:04:07 PM>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: QuEnc CBR 1-pass
Target Video FileSize: 1441.9 MB
QuEnc Parameters: -i "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\*Lets Get D_0_Title_01.avs" -o "E:\Documents and Settings\*\My Documents\NewDVD\*Lets Get D_0_Title_01.m2v" -b 8500 -1 -hq -novbr -scene -trell -aspectratio 4:3 -nointerlaced -mpeg2mux noaudio -dc 10 -priority 5 -auto -close
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<12/26/2008 4:17:16 PM>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: E:\Documents and Settings\*\My Documents\NewDVD\*Lets Get D_0_Title_01.m2v (1441.8 MB)
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<12/26/2008 4:17:16 PM>
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO:
Filename: *Lets Get D_0_Title_01
Filesize: 1511828648 Byte
Format: MPEG Video
Time: 23:42 minutes
Compression: MPEG-2 Video
AvgBitRate: 8508
Resolution: 720x480
Aspect Ratio: 1.333
FPS: 29.970
Interlacement: PPF
Frames: 42603
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<12/26/2008 4:17:16 PM>
START AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
QuEnc (Audio) Parameters: -i "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\*Lets Get D_0_Title_01.avs" -o "E:\Documents and Settings\*\My Documents\NewDVD\*Lets Get D_0_Title_01.ac3" -priority 5 -1 -nohq -novbr -mpeg2mux novideo -audiocodec AC3 -audiobitrate 192 -auto -close
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<12/26/2008 4:19:48 PM>
END AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: E:\Documents and Settings\*\My Documents\NewDVD\*Lets Get D_0_Title_01.ac3 (32.6 MB)
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<12/26/2008 4:19:50 PM>
START DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
BatchMux Parameters: -arglist "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\*Lets Get D_0_BatchMux.ini"
BatchMux ini file:
-d "E:\Documents and Settings\*\My Documents\NewDVD\*Lets Get D_0\VIDEO_TS"
-mxp "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\*Lets Get D_0_MuxMan.mxp"
-l "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\*Lets Get D_0_MuxMan.log"
-muxman "E:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\MuxMan"
-prio LOW
-v "E:\Documents and Settings\*\My Documents\NewDVD\*Lets Get D_0_Title_01.m2v"
-vidmode 4:3
-a1 "E:\Documents and Settings\*\My Documents\NewDVD\*Lets Get D_0_Title_01.ac3"
-a1lang en
-cellfr "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\*Lets Get D_0_Title_01_MuxMan.txt"
-progfr "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\*Lets Get D_0_Title_01_MuxMan.txt"
-chapfr "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\*Lets Get D_0_Title_01_MuxMan.txt"
-SEG2v "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\*Lets Get D_0_Menu.bmp"
-SEG2vidmode LB
-SEG2s1 "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\*Lets Get D_0_Menu.sst"
-SEG2s1dmode WIDE_LB
-SEG2hlmnu "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\*Lets Get D_0_Buttons.mnu"
-SEG2hlcsm "E:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\Menu\Highlight_Scheme.csm"
-hcn "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\*Lets Get D_0_BatchMux.hcn"
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<12/26/2008 4:20:12 PM>
PROCESS ABORTED DURING DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS!

CHECK FOLLOWING FILES FOR MORE DETAILS:

AVSTODVD LOG FILE <E:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\*\MY DOCUMENTS\NEWDVD\*LETS GET D_0.LOG>
BATCHMUX LOG FILE <E:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\*\MY DOCUMENTS\NEWDVD\*LETS GET D_0_BATCHMUX.LOG>
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<12/26/2008 4:20:15 PM>
Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.1.2
<>
***********
BATCHMUX.LOG FILE:
Segment memory resources --> RELEASED
Local Stack memory --> RELEASED
File i/o structures --> DEALLOCATED

Can anyone shed some light on what i'm doing wrong? I'm running XP pro SP3 on AMD athlon 64x2 4600+ with 2gb ram.

I hope i posted the right info.

Marcus

manolito

27th December 2008, 13:03

This is one of the famous MuxMan errors again (BatchMux calls MuxMan for muxing and authoring). And MuxMan is very picky when it encounters anything nonstandard.

In AVStoDVD the two typical problematic situations are:
1. Overshooting max bitrate causing buffer overflows
2. A chapter point out of the movie length range.

Try to find the "..._Muxman.log" file and have a look what Muxman complains about. Most likely it will be a buffer problem, and you should lower the QuEnc bitrate (8000 instead of 8500) to fix this. If it is a chapter point beyond the movie length (happens only in rare cases) then only MrC can fix this.

Cheers
manolito

MrC

27th December 2008, 14:06

@MysticE

OK, got it. I did not understand to what type was addressed. ;)

@marcusmd

As manolito said, there are probably some bitrate spikes rejected by MuxMan. About chapters, the routine to determine them is quite robust, so I am confident it should not create errors.

The muxman log file would be useful and the FULL (you copied&pasted only the last 3 rows...) batchmux log file would be as well.

;)

Bye

marcusmd

27th December 2008, 17:43

I just re-ran the conversion after reading your suggestions.
1) I can find no *muxman*.* file anywhere on my comp except in the files installed with AVStoDVD. none appear to be logs.
2) I changed the bitrate to 8000 from 8500 for QuEnc
3) I have played around with the chapters- i had set it to 20min and had also tried 99min (to keep there from being any chapters, my bad) for this 24 min avi. same results either way. I used 10 min this time.

here are the new logs & a couple of error screenshots:
***LOG:
<12/27/2008 10:02:43 AM>
START PROCESS
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<12/27/2008 10:02:43 AM>
DVD SETTINGS
DVD Titles number: 1
DVD Video Standard: NTSC
DVD Chapters Interval: 10 min
DVD Menu: Static DVD Menu
DVD Size: 1403/4435 MB (32%)
DVD Output Setup: DVD Folder

Delete Temp Process Files: Yes
Delete Working Files: Yes
Edit Command Parameters: No
Save Log file: Yes
Output Folder: E:\Documents and Settings\*\My Documents\NewDVD
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<12/27/2008 10:02:43 AM>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: E:\Documents and Settings\*\Desktop\TrailerParkBoys\** - Season 1\** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out Of My Trailer Park

[digitaldistract.avi
Info: XviD - 881 kbps - 640x480 - DAR 1.333 - 29.97 fps - PPF - 23:43 minutes - 42651 frames
Audio: E:\Documents and Settings\*\Desktop\TrailerParkBoys\** - Season 1\** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out Of My Trailer Park

[digitaldistract.avi
Info: MPEG-1 Audio layer 3 - 128 kbps - CBR - 44100Hz - 2ch - 23:43 minutes
Subs:
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.7.8]
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<12/27/2008 10:02:43 AM>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Import("E:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")

Video = A2DVideoSource("E:\Documents and Settings\*\Desktop\TrailerParkBoys\** - Season 1\** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out Of My

Trailer Park [digitaldistract.avi", CacheFolder = "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp")
Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,480)

Audio = A2DAudioSource("E:\Documents and Settings\*\Desktop\TrailerParkBoys\** - Season 1\** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out Of My

Trailer Park [digitaldistract.avi", CacheFolder = "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp")
Audio = Audio.SSRC(48000)

AudioDub(Video, Audio)
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<12/27/2008 10:02:43 AM>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: QuEnc CBR 1-pass
Target Video FileSize: 1357.1 MB
QuEnc Parameters: -i "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out O_0_Title_01.avs" -o "E:\Documents and

Settings\*\My Documents\NewDVD\** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out O_0_Title_01.m2v" -b 8000 -1 -hq -novbr -scene -trell -aspectratio

4:3 -nointerlaced -mpeg2mux noaudio -dc 10 -priority 5 -auto -close
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<12/27/2008 10:15:15 AM>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: E:\Documents and Settings\*\My Documents\NewDVD\** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out O_0_Title_01.m2v (1357.1 MB)
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<12/27/2008 10:15:15 AM>
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO:
Filename: ** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out O_0_Title_01
Filesize: 1423062579 Byte
Format: MPEG Video
Time: 23:42 minutes
Compression: MPEG-2 Video
AvgBitRate: 8008
Resolution: 720x480
Aspect Ratio: 1.333
FPS: 29.970
Interlacement: PPF
Frames: 42608
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<12/27/2008 10:15:15 AM>
START AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
QuEnc (Audio) Parameters: -i "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out O_0_Title_01.avs" -o "E:\Documents and

Settings\*\My Documents\NewDVD\** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out O_0_Title_01.ac3" -priority 5 -1 -nohq -novbr -mpeg2mux novideo

-audiocodec AC3 -audiobitrate 192 -auto -close
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<12/27/2008 10:17:44 AM>
END AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: E:\Documents and Settings\*\My Documents\NewDVD\** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out O_0_Title_01.ac3 (32.6 MB)
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<12/27/2008 10:17:47 AM>
START DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
BatchMux Parameters: -arglist "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out O_0_BatchMux.ini"
BatchMux ini file:
-d "E:\Documents and Settings\*\My Documents\NewDVD\** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out O_0\VIDEO_TS"
-mxp "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out O_0_MuxMan.mxp"
-l "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out O_0_MuxMan.log"
-muxman "E:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\MuxMan"
-prio LOW
-v "E:\Documents and Settings\*\My Documents\NewDVD\** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out O_0_Title_01.m2v"
-vidmode 4:3
-a1 "E:\Documents and Settings\*\My Documents\NewDVD\** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out O_0_Title_01.ac3"
-a1lang en
-cellfr "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out O_0_Title_01_MuxMan.txt"
-progfr "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out O_0_Title_01_MuxMan.txt"
-chapfr "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out O_0_Title_01_MuxMan.txt"
-SEG2v "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out O_0_Menu.bmp"
-SEG2vidmode LB
-SEG2s1 "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out O_0_Menu.sst"
-SEG2s1dmode WIDE_LB
-SEG2hlmnu "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out O_0_Buttons.mnu"
-SEG2hlcsm "E:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\Menu\Highlight_Scheme.csm"
-hcn "E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out O_0_BatchMux.hcn"
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<12/27/2008 10:30:16 AM>
PROCESS ABORTED DURING DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS!

CHECK FOLLOWING FILES FOR MORE DETAILS:

AVSTODVD LOG FILE <E:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\*\MY DOCUMENTS\NEWDVD\** - S01E01 - TAKE YOUR LITTLE GUN AND GET OUT O_0.LOG>
BATCHMUX LOG FILE <E:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\*\MY DOCUMENTS\NEWDVD\** - S01E01 - TAKE YOUR LITTLE GUN AND GET OUT O_0_BATCHMUX.LOG>
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<12/27/2008 10:30:19 AM>
Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.1.2
<>

***BATCHMUX.LOG (ALL OF THE TEXT):
Segment memory resources --> RELEASED
Local Stack memory --> RELEASED
File i/o structures --> DEALLOCATED

The 1st error message that I get, seemingly after the conversion, and as the authoring begins, is the attached jpg AVStoDVD_AuthoringError_1.jpg
The next screen that I see is AVStoDVD_ProgressStatus1.jpg

Is there more/other info that I can provide to explain any of this?
I really don't know what to do with any of the 'settings'-->'encoding'. source filters & video profiles mean nothing to me (yet).
Thanks so much for your help!

Marcus

MrC

27th December 2008, 19:03

@marcusmd

1. OK the problem should not be bitrate spiking
2. To keep all the log files, you have to go to 'Settings'/'Misc' and uncheck 'Delete AVStoDVD working files' (sorry for not mentioning before). Working files are located in temp folder (E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp)
3. BatchMux log file you attached is unfortunately not very "verbose", but the author timing could be compatible with a successful authoring.
4. Check the output folder (E:\Documents and Settings\*\My Documents\NewDVD\VIDEO_TS) and the files inside. If you can see all the "standard" ifo, bup and vob files, you can try to play the DVD structure (double click on video_ts.ifo) or burn it.

Let me know

;)

Bye

marcusmd

27th December 2008, 19:38

I received the same errors this time. I found the MuxMan.txt file, and it includes the following lines of text:
18000
36000

and that's it.
the video_ts folder was empty.
???

Marcus

toology

28th December 2008, 11:49

MrC

29th December 2008, 11:56

I received the same errors this time. I found the MuxMan.txt file, and it includes the following lines of text:
18000
36000

and that's it.
the video_ts folder was empty.
???

Marcus

The file you found (it full pathname is E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out O_0_Title_01_MuxMan.txt) is the txt file containing the chapters flags.

MuxMan log file is called E:\DOCUME~1\*\LOCALS~1\Temp\** - S01E01 - Take Your Little Gun And Get Out O_0_MuxMan.log. Could you find it?

A suggestion: for next trials (if any ;) ) do use smaller files. It is faster.

;)

Bye

MrC

29th December 2008, 20:36

Hello MrC and thanks for a great piece of software! However I have a issue that I cannot solve.

I'm trying to convert a 23.976 fps (NTSC) x264 encoded mkv file to dvd. The output has great picture quality, but as soon as some smooth transitions or faster scenes start the video gets choppy. I suspect it has something to do with changing the FPS from 23.976 to 23.970, which your program does by default.

I have tried using FAVC (same results, but expected because it uses similar backends) and TMPGenc (also same choppiness), so finally I tried ConvertXtoDVD and it made a skip-free video. Now the problem is that I want to use your software since it produces better image quality through HC encoder. I hope that you can help me, thanks in advance!

PS: I have noticed that unlike FAVC and TMPGenc, avs2dvd only works with ffdshow (my preferred decoder is CoreAVC).

Hi toology and thanks for using AVStoDVD.

Some clarifications:

1. AVStoDVD does not convert to 23.970 fps but to 29.970 (that is NTSC film standard)

2. If you get choppiness you can try selecting a different HCenc matrix (somebody more expert could help us in that choice) or give a try to QuEnc.

3. AVStoDVD cannot decide what directshow codec to use. It is determined by your system's filters graph manager (use graphedit to visualize it). If you want your system not to select ffdshow as x264 decoder, you can de-select x264 in ffdshow "Video decoder configuration" section.

4. What is the origin of the mkv file?

Let me know

;)

Bye

toology

30th December 2008, 13:38

Thanks for the reply!

It seem that perhaps there was a graph problem since your program and favc wouldn't start if ffdshow was disabled.

Concerning the frame rate, I am confused because I have done many conversions using FAVC on Windows XP and they all turned out fine. Recently I switched to Vista 64 bit and FAVC refused to create a dvd. When I finally got it to work, the video was choppy. Finally I tried several applications including yours (I liked it the best and want to keep using it) and TMPGEnc, all of them made a choppy video from two different files. The file is a mkv containing x264 video stream @ 23.976 fps and AC3 sound, it was made by a firend of mine from a movie he made with a hd camera and later compressed through AutoMKV (I think). The other one was a rip I made from my Blu Ray disc of 'From Hell'.

MrC

30th December 2008, 15:48

@toology

have you tried with both HCenc and QuEnc? Have you selected different HCenc matrixes?

Another suggestion: how many codecs have you installed? Try uninstalling everything and use only ffdshow (stable releases).

BTW, I cannot guarantee that AVStoDVD works fine under a 64 bit environment: I do not have any of them, so I cannot do any test.

;)

Bye

toology

30th December 2008, 18:43

All of the programs work fine since 64bit OS can run all 32 bit application. The only difference is that I have 2 sets of codecs, 32bit and 64bit FFdshow, also 32bit CoreAVC. Since HC encoder is 32bit it uses either CoreAVC or FFdshow.

I'll try using QuEnc, up till now I only used 2 pass HC encoding, DC precision 9 or 10, best profile, main matrix. Can anyone recommend an alternate matrix?

Oh yeah, the last time I used TMPGenc at best two pass encoding option.

Thank you again, I'll report if anything changes!

MrC

3rd January 2009, 11:15

Guys, new Year has brought a new Alpha.

AVStoDVD 2.1.3 Alpha build 090102 is out (https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340&package_id=269494).

Change log:

- Some bugs fixed
- Added 'KeepDAR' feature (keep thumbnails Display Aspect Ratio) in DVD Menu Editor
- Added 'HL Links' feature (display HighLights links/dependencies) in DVD Menu Editor (*)
- Added 'Muxed MPEG2 File' as Output Setup option (muxing is done by ImagoMPEG-Muxer) (**)
- Changed AC3 audio encoder: from QuEnc to Aften r762
- Changed MPEG2 video demuxer: from 'ReJig 0.5f' to 'FFmpeg r14277'
- Removed ImgBurn from 'NoInstall' package. It is still present in the 'Installer' package as installer itself.
- Improved errors logging in AVStoDVD project log file
- MediaInfo updated to 0.7.8

(*) Routine is not optimized, so you can expect some slowdowns with old CPUs.
(**) That is a return to the origin. Right, MysticE?

;)

Bye

gizzin

3rd January 2009, 18:21

Right on, aften support!!!, I running a test right now, I set it for 2.0 audio, but it encodes it as 5.1...(the original audio is 2.0 mp3),When you are encoding 5.1 it uses ffmpeg to map the stream?

bagheera1

3rd January 2009, 19:01

I have just finished playing with AVStoDVD and noticed a few things,

When I add a title that is allready 352x480 and select Half-D1, the avs script yields
Video = Video.AddBorders(144,0,144,0)
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,480)
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(352,480)

it seems it shouldn't be resized twice, or at all in this case, also if an addborders is needed, shouldn't it be the last thing in the video processing chain to reduce any performance hit do to the increased frame size?

Then I found that the dvd size is too big and I couldnt reduce the minimum avg bitrate below 1000 and still have autobitrate enabled without changing the setting in the registry, which resulted in a GUI crash (Run-time error '383':'Text' property is read-only) when I selected settings. However autobitrate still works, it changed itself to 923 to fit 695MB.

Before anyone comments or asks why 695? The answer is "It's what I want to do." (dvd on a cdr, I have not yet found a player it wouldn't play on)

ricardo.santos

4th January 2009, 01:56

- Added 'Muxed MPEG2 File' as Output Setup option (muxing is done by ImagoMPEG-Muxer) (**)

Thanks MrC

MrC

4th January 2009, 15:53

Right on, aften support!!!, I running a test right now, I set it for 2.0 audio, but it encodes it as 5.1...(the original audio is 2.0 mp3),When you are encoding 5.1 it uses ffmpeg to map the stream?

Are you sure you do not have the ffdshow audio mixer set to 6 channels? And you know... I need the log file... ;)

ffmpeg is now used to convert audio stream to WAV uncompressed 48 kHz, then Aften converts to AC3.

When I add a title that is allready 352x480 and select Half-D1, the avs script yields
Video = Video.AddBorders(144,0,144,0)
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,480)
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(352,480)

it seems it shouldn't be resized twice, or at all in this case, also if an addborders is needed, shouldn't it be the last thing in the video processing chain to reduce any performance hit do to the increased frame size?

If your source video clip is mpeg2 DVD compliant, then AVStoDVD does not make any conversion (aka resizing and stuff like that).
If it is not DVD compliant, then AVStoDVD, by default, resizes to the wished standard. Surely resizing routine can be improved as you suggest (avoid double resizing... that is my laziness ;) ).
About speed, are you sure that putting AddBorders as last line would increase encoding performance? Do you have any test to confirm that?

Then I found that the dvd size is too big and I couldnt reduce the minimum avg bitrate below 1000 and still have autobitrate enabled without changing the setting in the registry, which resulted in a GUI crash (Run-time error '383':'Text' property is read-only) when I selected settings. However autobitrate still works, it changed itself to 923 to fit 695MB.

Before anyone comments or asks why 695? The answer is "It's what I want to do." (dvd on a cdr, I have not yet found a player it wouldn't play on)

I refuse to allow in the GUI a video bitrate below 1000. Even HCenc cannot do miracles with those bitrates. I think that mpeg4 would be a much better choice.
BTW you can always tweak the registry... as you already did. :cool:

;)

Bye

gizzin

4th January 2009, 17:59

bagheera1

4th January 2009, 18:03

About speed, are you sure that putting AddBorders as last line would increase encoding performance? Do you have any test to confirm that?

I didn't run any tests. My statment is derived from the fact that when you double the size of a square, you quadruple its area (7x7 square is 49 units while a 14x14 square is 196 units), and I think avisynth has an 8bit pixel pricision so that would make the size an even bigger factor. Of cource I have not coded any resizing routines, so I might be wrong. Maby one of the coders like IanB could comment on my guesswork.

I do think you would loose the sharp edges that a last-in-chain addborders would give do to a resize smoothing/interpolation, but then mpeg2 hates sharp edges for compression. (maby a benefit to have it early)

About the GUI crash, if it doesn't bother you, I can live with it.

by the way, I'm not trying to be a pain.

MrC

5th January 2009, 15:16

Ya I did actually have it set to 6channels, so I changed it and ran it again same problem it outputted to 5.1 even though it was set to 2 channels (I never had problems encoding to 2.0 when it was set to 6channels before). What happens if you have a dvd that has multiple titles and has different streams, 2.0, and 5.1...And you want to re-encode them as 5.1, 2.0 etc..? Also I still do get Run-time error '383':'Text' property is read-only error occasionally, However as far as my memory goes its only 1 or 2 times lately. Why not use the latest build of aften?

What is telling you that AC3 output is 5.1? From the log file you sent me, AVS script is correct (AviSynth and output directshow mixer do the channels map not ffmpeg) and there is no reason that output is 5.1 IF you set correctly audio mixer (did you press 'Apply'?).

If you have a project with multiple channels configurations titles (to encode, not to keep), I suggest to encode titles separately (output mpg) and then run the full project keeping video and audio.

I didn't run any tests. My statment is derived from the fact that when you double the size of a square, you quadruple its area (7x7 square is 49 units while a 14x14 square is 196 units), and I think avisynth has an 8bit pixel pricision so that would make the size an even bigger factor. Of cource I have not coded any resizing routines, so I might be wrong. Maby one of the coders like IanB could comment on my guesswork.

I do think you would loose the sharp edges that a last-in-chain addborders would give do to a resize smoothing/interpolation, but then mpeg2 hates sharp edges for compression. (maby a benefit to have it early)

About the GUI crash, if it doesn't bother you, I can live with it.

by the way, I'm not trying to be a pain.

Let's wait for AviSynth experts comments, then. From my side I surely eliminate the double resize when encoding Half-D1.

About GUI crash, if I understood correctly, it happens AFTER you tweak AVStoDVD registry key. You inserted a not standard VideoMaxAvgBitRate value. When 'Settings' form is called, the combobox containing valid VideoMaxAvgBitRate values is populated. If the GUI finds a value not expected, it throws out Run-time error '383':'Text' property is read-only and crashes (that error is not handled).

Frankly speaking: I already find very difficult to handle all possible errors generated by GUI inputs... I do not want to imagine what to handle all possible errors generated by registry tweaking would mean...

BTW, no pain at all, AVStoDVD has grown so far mainly because of your inputs.

;)

Bye

MrC

8th January 2009, 17:07

@gizzin

another valid option for ffdshow audio mixer is "same as input": you do not have to worry about channels configuration anymore.

@everybody

any other issue with new Alpha?

;)

Bye

gizzin

8th January 2009, 17:56

Ya, stupid mistake, not pressing apply..No other problems, and I've ran about 5 dvds. Love the aften support thanks alot. I will use same as input from now on..lol

toology

9th January 2009, 10:47

Can aften do a DTS 5.1 to AC3 5.1 conversion? It's really a chore doing it manually.

MrC

9th January 2009, 13:32

Can aften do a DTS 5.1 to AC3 5.1 conversion? It's really a chore doing it manually.

Aften can only convert from WAV to AC3.

BTW, AVStoDVD retains DTS streams since release 2.1.2, so why do you need DTS->AC3 conversion?

;)

Bye

IanB

10th January 2009, 08:50

... any comments would be appreciated.Video = Video.AddBorders(144,0,144,0)
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,480)
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(352,480)Yes, resizing twice in a row is a bit silly. :p

As for resizing the border pixels, more pixels to process so, yes it takes longer. But the resizers are pretty fast, so it's not going to break the bank.

And as pointed out it has the side effect of softening the border edge. Which is a 2 edge sword, if the borders align with the block size for the codec, i.e. 16, then a hard border edge is advantageous, the border block is a solid colour (very easy to encode), the next block across is regular picture. If not then you have an extreme transition within a block (hard to encode). Else when resized the block has a soft transition (easy to encode).

leoliver

10th January 2009, 17:21

Should I UN-install a previous version of AVStoDVD before installing a updated version ? Or would the new version simply replace the older version without needing to UN-install the older ?
Also, last month you sent me a "special version " of AVStoDVD....

"I have uploaded a very alpha release of AVStoDVD 2.1.3 (exe only) which contains a lot of new debug instructions.
Download it, unzip it, overwrite current exe and start again your simple project. Copy and past here the log file."

That was the version I needed to run AVStoDVD on my computer due to my system problems. So I would like to ask if the new update.......... ,
" AVStoDVD 2.1.3 Alpha build 090102 is out." , contains all of the fixes that were on the "very alpha release of AVStoDVD 2.1.3 " that you sent me last month ?
If so , I will give the new updated version a try.
Thanks.

MrC

12th January 2009, 09:01

And as pointed out it has the side effect of softening the border edge. Which is a 2 edge sword, if the borders align with the block size for the codec, i.e. 16, then a hard border edge is advantageous, the border block is a solid colour (very easy to encode), the next block across is regular picture. If not then you have an extreme transition within a block (hard to encode). Else when resized the block has a soft transition (easy to encode).

Hi IanB,

if I correctly understood, if the AddBorder value is a multiple of 16 then adding the statement at the end of the script is better, else it is convenient to leave resizing at the end?

Should I UN-install a previous version of AVStoDVD before installing a updated version ? Or would the new version simply replace the older version without needing to UN-install the older ?
Also, last month you sent me a "special version " of AVStoDVD....

"I have uploaded a very alpha release of AVStoDVD 2.1.3 (exe only) which contains a lot of new debug instructions.
Download it, unzip it, overwrite current exe and start again your simple project. Copy and past here the log file."

That was the version I needed to run AVStoDVD on my computer due to my system problems. So I would like to ask if the new update.......... ,
" AVStoDVD 2.1.3 Alpha build 090102 is out." , contains all of the fixes that were on the "very alpha release of AVStoDVD 2.1.3 " that you sent me last month ?
If so , I will give the new updated version a try.
Thanks.

It is always better to uninstall previous releases. It is a safe procedure because AVStoDVD will ask you if you want to keep your custom settings. Everything else will be cleaned.
And yes, 2.1.3 Alpha 090102 contains all the fixes.

;)

Bye

IanB

12th January 2009, 11:29

if I correctly understood, if the AddBorder value is a multiple of 16 then adding the statement at the end of the script is better, else it is convenient to leave resizing at the end?As a coarse generalisation, yes. But you really need to fully understand the internals of the codec in question before making such a leap of faith. Codec designers put considerable work into optimally handling such cases. You should test encode a short segment to be sure of the behaviour.

MrC

12th January 2009, 12:16

As a coarse generalisation, yes. But you really need to fully understand the internals of the codec in question before making such a leap of faith. Codec designers put considerable work into optimally handling such cases. You should test encode a short segment to be sure of the behaviour.

Thanks for the reply. I will surely make some tests. You know, as GUI designer I have to make as many generalisations as possible: script automation and "quick&dirt" rules are my common bread...

;)

Bye

leoliver

13th January 2009, 07:26

Hi Everyone,

Today I used the new version of AVStoDVD to encode a great DVD movie. However at the start I opened up The Settings menu and clicked on " 2.HCenc OPV 1-pass " . And the clicked on "save settings as default " .
But it looked like the 'QuEnc CBR' was doing the video encoding .
After the job was finished , the log showed that the "
1.QuEnc CBR 1-pass " selection was used .
The previous time I used AVStoDVD , I selected the 3rd choice , " 3.HCenc VBR 2-pass " and custom set the maximum bit rate to 9000. And then AVStoDVD remembered my settings. But if I remember right , I think I clicked on the
" Pad Lock " icon before running that job. Is the " Pad Lock " icon needed to save settings for a job?
The QuEnc CBR 1-pass setting made a great movie , in fact I couldn't tell the difference in the video quality between the QuEnc CBR 1-pass setting and the twice as long (in encode time) HCenc VBR 2-pass setting.
I still would like to try the HCenc OPV 1-pass setting , so I'm wondering why that setting didn't go into play? Unless I'm not saving the settings the correct way ?
Thanks.

MrC

13th January 2009, 09:00

@leoliver

AVStoDVD automatically chooses Video Profile according to video bitrates levels.

To fix, in the current project, a Video Profile (i.e. HCenc OPV 1-pass) for all bitrates, you have simply to select it in 'Settings'/'Enconding'/'Setup Video Profiles' and then click on the small icon 'Lock selected Video Profile for all bitrates'. That's all.

Press F1 (Help) to get more details about how AVStoDVD works with Video Profiles.

;)

Bye

MrC

18th January 2009, 13:34

AVStoDVD 2.1.3 is available to download (https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340&package_id=233646).

Change log (in italic added items from 2.1.3 Alpha)

- Some bugs fixed
- Added 'KeepDAR' feature (keep thumbnails Display Aspect Ratio) in DVD Menu Editor
- Added 'HL Links' feature (display HighLights links/dependencies) in DVD Menu Editor
- Added 'Button Generator' section in DVD Menu Editor
- Added 'Muxed MPEG2 File' as Output Setup option (muxing is done by ImagoMPEG-Muxer)
- Changed AC3 audio encoder: from QuEnc to Aften r762
- Changed MPEG2 video demuxer: from 'ReJig 0.5f' to 'FFmpeg r14277'
- Removed ImgBurn from 'NoInstall' package. It is still present in the 'Installer' package as installer itself.
- Improved errors logging in AVStoDVD project log file
- Improved AVS Script generation function
- AviSynth updated to 2.5.8
- MediaInfo updated to 0.7.8

;)

Bye

rendez2k

18th January 2009, 14:09

MrC

19th January 2009, 13:36

Nice work! Button generator works well. Would it be possible to add a transparent button option? Or, even remove the button all together (never use the play all button!.

To both of your questions, the answer is yes. But be prepared to wait a little bit. My will is to re-design the DVD menu process generation, by building a sort of wizard. Step by step it will be possible to choose and customize menu configuration and elements, including:

- aspect ratio (4:3 - 16:9)
- multi page menu
- custom buttons or no buttons (text only menu)
- different highlight shapes
- template saving

please feel free to add request: in a planning step, everything is allowed.

;)

Bye

Richardw322

19th January 2009, 16:13

A question on Avisynth 2.5.8, will that keep existing plugins in the Avisynth folder?

Also, love the "menu wizard" idea. Even with one movie per DVSD I prefer menu, so I drop in DVD and get to pick when playback of the movie starts.

kinnth

19th January 2009, 17:12

i just wanted to check, does avs2dvd decode blu rays or hd dvd's? Thanks

leoliver

20th January 2009, 07:03

Tonight , the AVStoDVD process was aborted due to a DVD authoring error . The error message said to look at the 2 log files I'm attaching with this post.
When I looked in my "Output" folder , I had a Glory_0_Title_01.ac3 (178 MB. ) file , a Glory_0_Title_01.m2v (4.03 GB.) file and a VIDEO_TS folder (4.31 GB.) . The files 5 .vob files , in the VIDEO_TS folder , were playable if I loaded them as individual files in Mplayer . And those files have good audio/video playback , but no DVD menu structure.
Please take a look at my log files and let me know what went wrong and how it can be corrected .
Thanks.

MrC

20th January 2009, 11:26

A question on Avisynth 2.5.8, will that keep existing plugins in the Avisynth folder?

Yes, it should. Anyway, for your safety, backup them.

i just wanted to check, does avs2dvd decode blu rays or hd dvd's? Thanks

No, it does not. At least not directly. For that purpose give a try to BD Rebuilder (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716).

;)

Bye

manolito

21st January 2009, 13:54

@leoliver
From your BatchMux log file:
-- Starting scene Seg1_Scn12 at 01:50:00:01, requested for 01:50:00:00
-- Starting scene Seg1_Scn13 at 02:00:00:01, requested for 02:00:00:00
-- End of video file
-- Bytes remaining in buffer = 0.
-- Bitrate - avg: 4743230, min: 3011644 (lba 1949496), max: 6481582 (lba 623000).
-- Shortest GOP has 7 fields, longest GOP has 30 fields.
-- Fields: 468010, VOBU: 15184, Sectors: 2260436.
-- Reference to non-existant scene "Seg1_Scn14" from PGC "VTS01_Ttn1_Pgc1"

In AVStoDVD the two typical problematic situations are:
1. Overshooting max bitrate causing buffer overflows
2. A chapter point out of the movie length range.

As manolito said, there are probably some bitrate spikes rejected by MuxMan. About chapters, the routine to determine them is quite robust, so I am confident it should not create errors.

Looks like the chapter creation routine of AVStoDVD could use some bug fixing. I got this error too a couple of times, so it might be a good idea to create the last chapter only if it is at least one minute away from the end of the movie. IIRC Sir Didymus did it like this in his BatchMux plugin for DVD2SVCD...

Cheers
manolito

MrC

21st January 2009, 17:52

@manolito

you are (clearly ;) ) right! In the chapters creation routine, there is a mismatch between time and frames when selected video standard is NTSC (30 fps vs 29.97 fps). I will try to solve this issue, and if I could not, I will use SD's workaround.

Thanks for your debug

:)

Bye

leoliver

21st January 2009, 17:55

"Looks like the chapter creation routine of AVStoDVD could use some bug fixing. I got this error too a couple of times, so it might be a good idea to create the last chapter only if it is at least one minute away from the end of the movie. IIRC Sir Didymus did it like this in his BatchMux plugin for DVD2SVCD..."

Thanks for your reply. I set my chapter creation time mark to 10 mins. , instead of the default 10 mins. . I don't know if that aggravated the chapter creation routine problem.
As I said in my post , my AVStoDVD job did create a full folder of .vob files with good audio/video playback but no DVD menu structure. So I loaded the .vob files into Nero Vision 4 .
Nero merged all the .vob files into one single .vob file and was able to create chapters with a DVD menu that I burned to a blank DVD. But that added about 2 extra hrs. to the total time of that particular task.
So I'll look forward to this bug being fixed.

MrC

21st January 2009, 20:11

Milardo

22nd January 2009, 06:23

Sir Didymus

22nd January 2009, 09:37

...
Looks like the chapter creation routine of AVStoDVD could use some bug fixing...
...
IIRC Sir Didymus did it like this in his BatchMux plugin for DVD2SVCD...

Hi manolito!

Excellent analysis! I completely agree with your findings. I have also to comment on the very strong and useful logging capabilities of AVStoDVD.

Well, just a minor detail: in the DVD2SVCD plugin, the actual threshold to prevent the chapter creation before the end of movie is set to 10 seconds...

Suggestion to MrC: batchmux actually supports both chapter files in the "Framecount" and in the "Non Drop Time Code" formats. The advantage of the later is that the represented times (strings of the form "hh.mm.ss.ff") are absolute and independent from the TV standard, presence of pulldown, etc... The format is much more general, and it is the same used internally to MuxMan. It's an option to consider...

In case of need, please let me aware about: I would be happy of sharing the section of code for the chapter generation used inside the DVD2SVCD plugin...

Cheers,
SD

Sharc

22nd January 2009, 21:13

Shoudn't 'AssumeFPS(25)' be added to the script when converting an m2ts@23.976 fps to a compliant 720x576 PAL DVD? (=PAL speedup)
(The Audio would have to speed up as well, eac3to can do this for example).

MrC

23rd January 2009, 10:50

Hi,
Is it possible to create custom chapter points? Also can I create motion menu buttons? How do I resize the resolution to like 352x240? If I can do these things avstodvd would be one of the top freeware dvd authoring programs.

See my answer here (http://forum.videohelp.com/topic363000.html#1931012)

I have also to comment on the very strong and useful logging capabilities of AVStoDVD.

Thank you very much, but these are peanuts... ;)

Suggestion to MrC: batchmux actually supports both chapter files in the "Framecount" and in the "Non Drop Time Code" formats. The advantage of the later is that the represented times (strings of the form "hh.mm.ss.ff") are absolute and independent from the TV standard, presence of pulldown, etc... The format is much more general, and it is the same used internally to MuxMan. It's an option to consider...

Some releases ago I was using "celltc timecode" format, but I had to move to "cellfr framecnt" because of several authoring aborts by Muxman.

In case of need, please let me aware about: I would be happy of sharing the section of code for the chapter generation used inside the DVD2SVCD plugin...

Let me do some trials. If I will be not successful, I will surely ask for your help (as I did so many many times...) ;)

Shoudn't 'AssumeFPS(25)' be added to the script when converting an m2ts@23.976 fps to a compliant 720x576 PAL DVD? (=PAL speedup)
(The Audio would have to speed up as well, eac3to can do this for example).

FPS upsizing is made by applying pulldown flags (DGPulldown is used), after raw video encoding is done. Audio does not have frames.

;)

Bye

gizzin

23rd January 2009, 22:21

MrC

24th January 2009, 09:17

Run-time error '383':'Text' property is read-only <-- I still get this error frequently. Every couple discs seems to be affected. The last disc I did didn't rebuild properly. It happened again finally.

About Run-time error '383':'Text' property is read-only, could you please be more specific? When does it happen? After a form opening, after a button click, after what event?

About log file you sent me, there is a authoring finalization error. The cause is exactly the same manolito pointed out some posts ago (bug in chapter generation when upsizing fps to NTSC and clip time is very near to a multiple of chapter interval).
I am fixing it and a 2.1.4 release will be out very soon. Please do not throw away the 1:25:00 time clip (title 2 of your log file), because it will be useful to verify the new chapter routine.

;)

Bye

Sharc

24th January 2009, 10:15

FPS upsizing is made by applying pulldown flags (DGPulldown is used), after raw video encoding is done. Audio does not have frames.

;)

I see.
As I understand it, this means that we accept the pulldown judder and preserve the audio pitch, and keep the subs easily in sync.
With AssumeFPS(25) and resampling the audio we would avoid the judder but raise the audio pitch, and probably would have to change the time stamps of the subtitles.
It is eventually a matter of preference I guess.

gizzin

24th January 2009, 10:17

I add 2 titles, If I highlight title 1, and edit that title, Then click next title in the edit screen, its spits out that error. However If I click edit title on the second title It doesn't seem to do that, I can go back and forth between the titles in the edit screen.

leoliver

24th January 2009, 16:17

"Right now, you can avoid that problem by settings 999 mins in chapters interval: it means no chapters at all.

Remember that the bug happens only when the total time is equal to (a multiple of chapters interval) plus (a bunch of seconds)"

Yesterday I had a successfully run with AVStoDVD . It was the usual sort of video file I use : <1/22/2009 6:45:07 PM>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: C:\input\ Emperor.avi
Info: DivX 5 - 794 kbps - 672x272 - DAR 2.471 - 25 fps - PPF - 1:47:05 hours - 160625 frames
Audio: C:\input\ Emperor.avi
Info: MPEG-1 Audio layer 3 - 112 kbps - CBR - 48000Hz - 2ch - 1:47:04 hours
Subs:
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.8] "

Except this time I used the default chapter creation setting of 5 mins. . And the chapter creation worked fine . After reading this reply :
" Remember that the bug happens only when the total time is equal to (a multiple of chapters interval) plus (a bunch of seconds"

I'll make sure that after all the chapters are created , that there aren't seconds left over to cause any MuxMan errors.
I also wanted to comment that before I ran the last encode job with AVStoDVD , I tried to run the same video file with Nero Vision Express 4 . And about 2 hrs. into the job , Nero Vision "froze up " and failed to finish the job. Then when I loaded the same video file into AVStoDVD , with 5 min. chapters ( no left over seconds after the last full chapter) , AVStoDVD successfully created another high quality DVD movie. So despite a few small bugs , I believe AVStoDVD is shaping up better than the bloated Nero Vision Express. And AVStoDVD certainly creates more readable log files than the log files created by Nero Vision .

MrC

24th January 2009, 19:44

@gizzin

I can't reproduce the error. If any other guy has that type of error, it is better if we continue via PM. Are you using any "unusual" settings (like tweaking AVStoDVD registry key)? Send me some screenshots of the error environment.

@leoliver

Thanks for the feedback. As you can see that clip (not downloaded illegally, I hope) has a duration NOT multiple of 5 minutes.

;)

Bye

MrC

25th January 2009, 16:14

Ok guys, here you are a very small 2.1.4 Alpha (http://avstodvd.googlepages.com/AVStoDVD_214Alpha090125_Update_213.7z) release. It is just an update from 2.1.3. Unzip and overwrite the files in AVStoDVD folder.

Change log:

- Some bugs fixed (including the NTSC chapter generation, I hope ;) )
- Changed WAV audio encoder: from 'FFMpeg r14277' to 'Wavi 1.06'
- Improved 'Save/Open Project' routines
- Improved 'Clip Preview' section GUI

Let me know

;)

Bye

MrC

25th January 2009, 16:25

For anyone interested, here you are the new routine to create chapters framecount boundaries (MuxMan format). It is VB code, but simple enough to be read by everybody that knows the programming basics:

FPS = 25
If Settings.VideoStandard = "NTSC" Then FPS = 2997 / 100
If Val(Settings.ChaptersInterval) * 60 < Title.TimeTrimmed Then
Do
jj = jj + 1
FrameChapter = Val(Settings.ChaptersInterval) * jj * 60 * Round(FPS)
If FrameChapter < Title.TimeTrimmed * FPS Then
Create_Chapters_List = Create_Chapters_List & FrameChapter & vbCrLf
End If
Loop Until FrameChapter > Title.TimeTrimmed * FPS
If Right(Create_Chapters_List, 2) = vbCrLf Then
Create_Chapters_List = Left(Create_Chapters_List, Len(Create_Chapters_List) - 2)
End If
End If

;)

Bye

leoliver

27th January 2009, 03:55

Today I used the new 2.1.4 Alpha release with success. It encoded a 700 MB. file in a little over 2 hrs. The last AVStoDVD job, done with release 2.1.3 took almost 3.5 hrs. . And that job was with another 700 MB. AVI file. However with the 2.1.4 Alpha release job , I didn't use FFDShow which may have speed-ed up the job.
If anyone needs a source of free, legal audio/video downloads , check out : NewTeeVee » Ten Sites for Free and Legal Torrents (http://newteevee.com/2007/03/03/ten-sites-for-free-and-legal-torrents/) . The videos on those sites are not new Hollywood releases , but many are very good movies .

leoliver

3rd February 2009, 03:53

Today I decided to use the "Fire Web" DVD menu template.
But after selecting that template , and then clicking on the "Menu Edit" button , I received this error message :
" Run-time error:'308'
Invalid property value "
And after the error message AVStoDVD shut down , requiring me to restart the program and selecting another DVD menu template . And all the other DVD menu templates work just fine. The only problem is with the "Fire Web" template.
So I thought I would bring this issue to your attention.
Thanks.

MrC

3rd February 2009, 08:47

leoliver

3rd February 2009, 16:52

Thanks leoliver for the bug report.

The reason could be that the Fire Web template requires truetype font "Garamond" to be installed on your system.

In 2.1.4 final I will add a font check routine to prevent those errors.

Thanks

;)

Bye

I checked my Font folder for "Garamond" , and it was not installed on my system . So that must have been the cause of the error.

gizzin

8th February 2009, 18:04

I love this piece of software. It just gets better and better with each revision. And the quality top notch (HC and Aften). Good work MR.C. Don't use inferior software (convertx). :)

MrC

9th February 2009, 17:32

AVStoDVD release 2.1.4 is out (https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340&package_id=233646).

Change log:

- Some bugs fixed
- Added support to VCD resolutions (PAL 352x288, NTSC 352x240)
- Revised (and fixed) SubtitleCreator profiles
- Changed 'Video Lower Avg BitRate' min value in 'Settings'/'AudioVideo': from 1000 kbps to 500 kbps
- Changed WAV audio encoder: from 'FFMpeg r14277' to 'Wavi 1.06'
- Changed 'Fire Web' font: from 'Garamond' to 'Times New Roman'
- Improved 'Save/Open Project' routines
- Improved 'Clip Preview' section GUI
- Improved 'Keep DVD compliant Video/Audio' routines
- MediaInfo updated to 0.7.10
- HelpMaker (software used to create Help Section) updated to 7.4.4.0

In italic changes from 2.1.4 Alpha. No big news, just some polishing.

;)

Bye

PINOBIRD

10th February 2009, 16:11

First of all thanks for this wonderfull app.:thanks:
Last night I did some testing and I downloaded some of these (http://desktop.thomsongrassvalley.com/support/tutorials/EDIUS.php)files.
AVS2DVD won't create a DVD it even won't encode these files.
Maybe it's caused by the low framerate of these files.

MrC

10th February 2009, 19:08

Hi Pinobird,

they are standard low res wmv files, there's no reason that AVStoDVD cannot encode them. Could you please be more specific about the error? Screenshots and/or log files would be useful

;)

Bye

PINOBIRD

10th February 2009, 19:41

<10-2-2009 19:35:27>
START PROCESS
<>

<10-2-2009 19:35:27>
DVD SETTINGS
DVD Titles number: 1
DVD Video Standard: PAL
DVD Chapters Interval: 5 min
DVD Menu: Static DVD Menu
DVD Size: 220/4435 MB (5%)
DVD Output Setup: DVD Folder

Delete Temp Process Files: Yes
Delete Working Files: Yes
Edit Command Parameters: No
Save Log file: Yes
Output Folder: H:\DVD Output
<>

<10-2-2009 19:35:27>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: I:\WM Recorder\ediustuts\05 Deck Settings - DSL.wmv
Info: WMV3 - 314 kbps - 480x360 - DAR 1,333 - 15 fps - PPF - 3:29 minutes - 3144 frames
Audio: I:\WM Recorder\ediustuts\05 Deck Settings - DSL.wmv
Info: WMA2 - 32 kbps - CBR - 32000Hz - 2ch - 3:29 minutes
Subs:
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.10]
<>

<10-2-2009 19:35:27>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Import("C:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")

Video = A2DVideoSource("I:\WM Recorder\ediustuts\05 Deck Settings - DSL.wmv", CacheFolder = "D:\!Systeem\Temp")
Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
#Using DGPulldown to upsize FPS
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,576)

Audio = A2DAudioSource("I:\WM Recorder\ediustuts\05 Deck Settings - DSL.wmv", CacheFolder = "D:\!Systeem\Temp")
Audio = Audio.SSRC(48000)

AudioDub(Video, Audio)
<>

<10-2-2009 19:35:39>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: HCenc OPV 1-pass
Target Video FileSize: 212,8 MB
HCenc Parameters: -ini "D:\!Systeem\Temp\05 Deck Settings - DSL_0_Title_01.HCenc.ini"
HCenc ini file:
*INFILE D:\!Systeem\Temp\05 Deck Settings - DSL_0_Title_01.avs
*AVSRELOAD
*OUTFILE H:\DVD Output\05 Deck Settings - DSL_0_Title_01.m2v
*LOGFILE D:\!Systeem\Temp\05 Deck Settings - DSL_0_Title_01.HCenc.log
*MAXBITRATE 9000
*CQ_MAXBITRATE 1
*BITRATE 8500
*PROFILE BEST
*ASPECT 4:3
*PROGRESSIVE
*BIAS 80
*DC_PREC 10
*MATRIX MPEG
*AQ 1
*LUMGAIN 0
*SMP
*PRIORITY IDLE
*WAIT 2
<>

<10-2-2009 19:36:41>
PROCESS ABORTED DURING TITLE 1 VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS.

CHECK LOG FILE <H:\DVD OUTPUT\05 DECK SETTINGS - DSL_0.LOG> FOR MORE INFO.
<>

<10-2-2009 19:36:41>
Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.1.4
<>

HCEncoder says ERROR, invalid MPEG2 framerate

MrC

10th February 2009, 21:19

Nasty wmv files! I really hate them! :mad:

Go to 'Title Edit'/'AviSynth', toggle off 'Auto AviSynth Script', replace "#Using DGPulldown to upsize FPS" with "Video = Video.ConvertFPS(25)".

It should work

;)

Bye

PINOBIRD

11th February 2009, 07:45

Works like a charm.:thanks:

Milardo

14th February 2009, 02:42

Cool! Thanks for the bitrate and video size features. Can't wait for the custom chapter points feature. By the way, does AVStoDVD support either having motion backgrounds with music/motion title buttons (where you see a preview video of the chapter/title you can select)? Just trying to get clarification on that.

MrC

14th February 2009, 10:07

Yes, AVStoDVD support both motion background with audio AND motion thumbnails for titles.

Just select 'Settings'/'DVD Menu'/'Select DVD Menu Style' and put 'Motion DVD Menu'. Then play with DVD Menu window.

;)

Bye

P.S. Do not cross post with VideoHelp (http://forum.videohelp.com/topic363000.html#1938408), just put a link to this or that thread.

Milardo

16th February 2009, 01:00

Okay.

Is it possible to for you to make so that I or anybody can type in the path of the location of like avisynth or portable imgburn? Also how about putting the size of video in number format so people know what the size really is? How about a full abort command if you want to completely stop the encoding process? Is there a way to change the bitrates of the menu? Sorry if I have so many suggestions it is just that I'm trying to make AVStoDVD even better. By the way how do I make it so the menu has more than one page? The thumbnails keep stacking up on one another. Also, when editing video titles, the video bitrate doesn't match the ones in settings tab, however the audio bitrate matches the settings tab. Also, why is it that there is a average and max bitrate for video? Can't there just be one bitrate (cbr) for video like the way the audio is set up?

MrC

16th February 2009, 20:33

Is it possible to for you to make so that I or anybody can type in the path of the location of like avisynth or portable imgburn?

Why, what's the problem with them? AVStoDVD finds their path from the win registry.

Also how about putting the size of video in number format so people know what the size really is?

Not understood. Please clarify better.

How about a full abort command if you want to completely stop the encoding process?

What do you mean for "full abort"? I cannot abort the execution of other tools.

Is there a way to change the bitrates of the menu? By the way how do I make it so the menu has more than one page?

Next release will (probably) have those features.

Also, when editing video titles, the video bitrate doesn't match the ones in settings tab, however the audio bitrate matches the settings tab. Also, why is it that there is a average and max bitrate for video? Can't there just be one bitrate (cbr) for video like the way the audio is set up?

Clearly you have not understood the purpose of 'Settings'/'Encoding' & 'Settings'/'AudioVideo' tabs. Do read the help section (press F1) and, if you have time, make a search in this thread. Then if your questions are not answered, come back here.

;)

Bye

Milardo

17th February 2009, 05:25

No problem with them just wanted to use the portable imgburn, so to do that it would be necessary to be able to type in the path of the portable imgburn exe file.

Video size- VCD=352x240 etc.

For example when encoding you wanted to change something there should be a full abort button to completely stop the entire process of encoding and go back to the main screen.

I'm just comparing it to my Honestech DVD authoring studio program which has just one setting for video bitrate, which makes it easier to use I think.

carlmart

17th February 2009, 17:32

Just now did I find this specific AVStoDVD forum.

My question is something about version 2.1.3, but it may apply on the new version.

Can I use any Avisynth plug in with AVStoDVD or only a few of them, those listed as:

Script Shortcuts" (AviSynth filters):
- Crop allows you to crop excess pixels off of each frame
- Vertical Resize allows you to vertically enlarge/reduce the aspect ratio
- Trim allows you to select only an interval between video frames
- Tweak allows you to adjust the video hue, saturation, brightness, and contrast
- Delay Audio allows you to set a delay/advance between audio and video sources
- Amplify Audio allows you to amplify audio Track by amount.

Now I am thinking it is so. Is that right?

MrC

17th February 2009, 21:36

No problem with them just wanted to use the portable imgburn, so to do that it would be necessary to be able to type in the path of the portable imgburn exe file.

Does exist a "portable" version of ImgBurn? If yes, is it located by AVStoDVD (go to 'Settings'/'Info'/'Software Info')?

Video size- VCD=352x240 etc.

Ok, got it. I can add a label/tip on the right.

For example when encoding you wanted to change something there should be a full abort button to completely stop the entire process of encoding and go back to the main screen.

You have just to close the running app. In most cases, AVStoDVD will stop the process.

;)

Bye

MrC

17th February 2009, 21:38

carlmart

17th February 2009, 22:28

Hi Calmart and welcome here.

you can add as many plugin as you want. But you have to manually edit the script: toggle off 'Auto AviSynth Script' and write directly in the textbox.

The shorcuts you have listed are just... shortcuts to very popular internal AviSynth filters.

That's OK. I know that. I already untoggled the "Auto" box and corrected the 16:9 ratio on another film.

But which is the way the script should be written there:

Like this: Video = Video.RePAL()

Or like this: RePAL()

Should I write down where the plug in is, like:

LoadCPlugin("C:\Path\To\repal.dll")

I am getting "script error" messages when I try to use some scripts, like LimitedSharpenFaster.

MrC

17th February 2009, 23:09

Put
LoadCPlugin("C:\Path\To\repal.dll")
at the beginning of the script (line 1) and
Video = Video.RePAL()
in the Video section, i.e. after "Video = Video.ConvertToYV12"

;)

Bye

Milardo

17th February 2009, 23:38

Here is where I downloaded portable imgburn.

http://www.softpedia.com/get/PORTABLE-SOFTWARE/CD-DVD-Tools/Windows-Portable-Applications-Portable-ImgBurn.shtml

How do I get AVStoDVD to locate it?

carlmart

18th February 2009, 01:59

When I load this script:

LoadPlugin("C:\video\AviSynth 2.58\plugins\Yadifmod.dll")
Video = Video.Yadifmod(Mode=1,Order=1)

I get a message saying:

"args must be clips".

As I am not familiar yet with Avisynth scripts, it sounds like chinese to me. What do I have to write to make it work?

18th February 2009, 05:29

Thanks for the new version. I'd like to add a background to my subtitles(Preferably a transparent box) , how do I enable this in the Subtitle Creator Data Profile?

Thanks In Advance.

MrC

18th February 2009, 17:39

Here is where I downloaded portable imgburn.

http://www.softpedia.com/get/PORTABLE-SOFTWARE/CD-DVD-Tools/Windows-Portable-Applications-Portable-ImgBurn.shtml

How do I get AVStoDVD to locate it?

Sorry for asking again, but, what are the differences between standard ImgBurn and portable ImgBurn? Does portable ImgBurn not make use of Windows Registry?

:confused:

Bye

MrC

18th February 2009, 17:40

MrC

18th February 2009, 17:45

Thanks for the new version. I'd like to add a background to my subtitles(Preferably a transparent box) , how do I enable this in the Subtitle Creator Data Profile?

Thanks In Advance.

Really do not know. My knowledge of SubtitleCreator is not that deep... You should ask to Doom9 subtitles section (http://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay.php?f=12).

Profiles can be located at "C:\Program files\AVStoDVD Dev\SubtitleCreator\Data\Profiles.xml". Be careful to modify that file.

;)

Bye

carlmart

18th February 2009, 22:27

More comings and goings.

I am using the following script for a conversion:

LoadCplugin("C:\video\AviSynth 2.58\plugins\Yadif.dll")
Video = Video.Yadif(Mode=1,Order=1)
Video = Video.Tweak(Sat=1.1)
Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,480,0,66,0,-66)

Differently from others I tried, this one showed no errors.

The Preview plays very well and better than the original. But the resultant file, which should be 104 minutes long came out 260 minutes long.

What might be happening?

Milardo

19th February 2009, 03:38

Oh I haven't actually tried the portable one yet, but when I do I will see if it does make an entry in windows registry.

carlmart

19th February 2009, 11:16

Apparently Yadif mode=1 is a bobber, so frame rate is doubled. Then you have to use repal to bring it back down.

But when I tried this correction AVStoDVD stopped before converting it. The log file I got was this:

<18/02/2009 21:58:42>
START PROCESS
<>

<18/02/2009 21:58:42>
DVD SETTINGS
DVD Titles number: 1
DVD Video Standard: NTSC
DVD Size: 4435/4435 MB (100%)
DVD Output Setup: MPEG2 Streams

Delete Temp Process Files: Yes
Delete Working Files: Yes
Edit Command Parameters: No
Save Log file: Yes
Output Folder: D:\Temp
<>

<18/02/2009 21:58:42>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: D:\Inconscientes\VideoFile.m2v
Info: MPEG-2 Video - 4959 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1,333 - 29,97 fps - TFF - 1:44:16 hours - 187492 frames
Audio:
Info:
Subs:
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.8]
<>

<18/02/2009 21:58:42>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Import("C:\Video\AVStoDVD\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")

Video = A2DVideoSource("D:\Inconscientes\VideoFile.m2v", CacheFolder = "C:\DOCUME~1\Carlos\CONFIG~1\Temp")
LoadCplugin("C:\video\AviSynth 2.58\plugins\Yadif.dll")
Video = Video.Yadif(Mode=1,Order=1)
Loadplugin("C:\video\AviSynth 2.58\plugins\repal.dll")
Video = Video.rePAL()
Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,480,0,66,0,-66)

Return Video
<>

<18/02/2009 21:58:42>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: HCenc VBR 2-pass
Target Video FileSize: 4435,1 MB
HCenc Parameters: -ini "C:\DOCUME~1\Carlos\CONFIG~1\Temp\VideoFile_0_Title_01.HCenc.ini"
HCenc ini file:
*INFILE C:\DOCUME~1\Carlos\CONFIG~1\Temp\VideoFile_0_Title_01.avs
*AVSRELOAD
*OUTFILE D:\Temp\VideoFile_0_Title_01.m2v
*LOGFILE C:\DOCUME~1\Carlos\CONFIG~1\Temp\VideoFile_0_Title_01.HCenc.log
*MAXBITRATE 9000
*BITRATE 5947
*PROFILE BEST
*ASPECT 16:9
*INTERLACED
*TFF
*BIAS 60
*DC_PREC 9
*MATRIX MPEG
*AQ 1
*LUMGAIN 0
*SMP
*PRIORITY IDLE
*WAIT 2
<>

<18/02/2009 22:02:49>
PROCESS ABORTED DURING TITLE 1 VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS.

CHECK LOG FILE <D:\TEMP\VIDEOFILE_0.LOG> FOR MORE INFO.
<>

<18/02/2009 22:02:49>
Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.1.3
<>

What's wrong, because when I made a preview it didn't alert of any error?

MrC

19th February 2009, 18:43

@calmart

it seems that HCenc does not like your script very much. Locate file "C:\DOCUME~1\Carlos\CONFIG~1\Temp\VideoFile_0_Title_01.HCenc.log" and check what kind of error HCenc throws out.

Or alternatively try with QuEnc profile.

;)

Bye

carlmart

20th February 2009, 12:34

Well, in the end I could make it work. The script that I used, suggested in another forum, was this:

LoadPlugin("C:\video\DGIndex\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\video\AviSynth 2.58\plugins\RePAL.dll")
LoadCPlugin("C:\video\AviSynth 2.58\plugins\Yadif.dll")
Video = Video.Yadif(Mode=1,Order=1)
Video = Video.RePAL()
Video = Video.AssumeFPS(25) #for HCEnc

Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,480,0,66,0,-66)

The process had some hiccups, saying from time to time that there were some mpeg errors. But to my surprise HCEnc went on and finished the conversion.

Except for those "errors" everything went perfect and I could end up with a corrected video file.

The only problem is that I now will have to get to understand what was done, as I am completely new to this world of scripts.

MrC

20th February 2009, 21:32

I'm glad to hear that you did it.

Welcome to the advanced world (http://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay.php?f=33) of video editing

:cool:

Bye

carlmart

20th February 2009, 23:20

Welcome to the of video editing

Thanks. If it wasn't for the help I got I could have never come up with those scripts.

Now I have a hard way uphill to learn what filters to use and how.

For instance, which would be a nice filter to "cheat" resolution a bit when converting from a 720p MKV file to an MPEG2 file to author a DVD?

LimitedSharpenFaster perhaps?

How can I select small pieces of the file to use as tests for possible combinations?

leoliver

21st February 2009, 00:33

So far I've used the latest AVStoDVD build to encode two different .avi video clips into DVD ready movies. And both times
AVStoDVD worked well without a problem.
Keep up the good work.

MrC

21st February 2009, 10:02

For instance, which would be a nice filter to "cheat" resolution a bit when converting from a 720p MKV file to an MPEG2 file to author a DVD?

LimitedSharpenFaster perhaps?

That's a good question for AviSynth forum section (http://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay.php?f=33).

How can I select small pieces of the file to use as tests for possible combinations?

Go to 'Title Edit'/'AviSynth', toggle off 'Auto AviSynth Script' and use 'Trim' filter. I.e. insert 0 - 1000 frames.

;)

Bye

carlmart

21st February 2009, 13:26

That's a good question for AviSynth forum section (http://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay.php?f=33).

Great. I'll go there put my questions.

Go to 'Title Edit'/'AviSynth', toggle off 'Auto AviSynth Script' and use 'Trim' filter. I.e. insert 0 - 1000 frames.

Great. I will use that for my tests.

Is there a way to use AVStoDVd just to output the AC3 track? How?

MrC

21st February 2009, 14:54

Is there a way to use AVStoDVd just to output the AC3 track? How?

Well, there is not a proper function, but you can use a workaround:

- from the taskbar select 'Output'/'Elementary MPEG2 streams'
- load your file to demux audio
- select 'Title Edit'/'Video', toggle off 'Auto Video Setup'
- select 'QuEnc CBR 1-pass' from 'Video Encoding Profile'
- press OK and press START
- after few video encoding seconds, stop QuEnc
- let audio encoding finish off

you will get a small unuseless m2v file and a full AC3 file.

Or, more simply, use eac3to (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=125966).

;)

Bye

carlmart

21st February 2009, 22:05

Or, more simply, use eac3to (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=125966).

Yes, I ended up using eac3 to GUI to make the conversion. Now I am looking for a way to increase levels in the AC3 file.

Flux

23rd February 2009, 12:40

How I can preserve my custom menu, if I want to replace the video source from a title with another one? For now, I have edited the project file and changed video paths manually, but is there easier way?

BTW, thanks for creating AVStoDVD. Everything is so easy to understand because there is not useless crap to confuse and still encoded quality is very good. And it is free! =)

MrC

23rd February 2009, 14:06

@Flux

you went on the only (now available) way to change one title without resetting the DVD Menu setup.

In my neverending ToDo list, there is a "Save custom DVD menu template" item...

;)

Bye

Wishbringer

24th February 2009, 14:52

gizzin

24th February 2009, 16:55

I have some problems with a few BluRay discs I want to convert to DVD.
They contain DTS-HD streams.
AVStoDVD converts them to wav (with some warnings that wav will be over 4GB). Shown playtime seems not ok, over 6000 Hours?!
Then Aften starts AC3 encoding and ends up with an buffer overflow error at 0% (in console window).

I think thats cause it doesn't support it yet. But if you really want to make a dvd out of a blueray. Just extract the streams using tsmuxer. Than use eac3to. encode the audio to ac3. Then use tsmuxer again to mux it back together. Run it through AvsToDVD again and click keep dvd compliant audio.

MrC

24th February 2009, 21:43

@Wishbringer

I must admit that I have never tried to use AVStoDVD as BD "downgrader"... mainly because I do not have any BDs... :rolleyes:

But, if you can provide a short sample of your BD or, at least, the AVStoDVD project log file, it could be a good start.

Gizzin's method (:thanks:) should work well, even if it is not a "one-click" solution.

;)

Bye

Wishbringer

25th February 2009, 12:12

@Wishbringer
But, if you can provide a short sample of your BD or, at least, the AVStoDVD project log file, it could be a good start.

Tomorrow, am not at home atm. Will try to upload at MediaFire m2ts sample and log.

carlmart

25th February 2009, 15:07

Is it possible to join one or several avi files with AVStoDVD?

How?

MrC

25th February 2009, 18:45

Is it possible to join one or several avi files with AVStoDVD?

How?

Please explain better because your question is not clear. Literally it means "input: more avi files / output: one avi file".

:)

Bye

carlmart

25th February 2009, 23:39

Please explain better because your question is not clear. Literally it means "input: more avi files / output: one avi file".

When I capture something from my camera or Canopus converter, it splits the files in shots or shorter multiple avi files.

Until now I joined the files in Procoder or in VirtualDub, making just one file instead of many of them.

In VirtualDub this is called "Append", in Procoder is called "Stitch".
How is it called in AVStoDVD?

gizzin

26th February 2009, 00:25

When I capture something from my camera or Canopus converter, it splits the files in shots or shorter multiple avi files.

Until now I joined the files in Procoder or in VirtualDub, making just one file instead of many of them.

In VirtualDub this is called "Append", in Procoder is called "Stitch".
How is it called in AVStoDVD?

You can't do this in avstodvd. Its probably on the todo list I'd imagine. Just keep using virtualdub its not that much extra work is it?

carlmart

27th February 2009, 00:08

OK. I will keep using VD for that.

Here's another one: how can you set exactly the size of the m2v file you are going to get from AVStoDVD?

In Procoder I do that by setting the output bitrate. In TMPGEnc 4.0 Express by going to DVD9, to free the maximum bitrate, and filling in the size you wish to.

I still can't see how you do that with AVStoDVD. Is it possible?

Correction: can I do that simply by setting the minimum bitrate the program should use. Perhaps using the value BitrateCalc suggests?

MrC

27th February 2009, 15:14

how can you set exactly the size of the m2v file you are going to get from AVStoDVD?

Size targeting (m2v+ac3):
- press 'DVD Size'/'Custom' in the toolbar
- enter your custom DVD size

Bitrate targeting:
- load you input files
- press 'Title Edit'/'Video'
- toggle off 'Auto Video Setup'
- toggle off 'Auto BitRate Calculation'
- edit 'Video Avg BitRate'

;)

Bye

carlmart

27th February 2009, 15:23

Size targeting (m2v+ac3):
- press 'DVD Size'/'Custom' in the toolbar
- enter your custom DVD size

Is it possible to toggle-off AC3? To convert just m2v?

Bitrate targeting:
- load you input files
- press 'Title Edit'/'Video'
- toggle off 'Auto Video Setup'
- toggle off 'Auto BitRate Calculation'
- edit 'Video Avg BitRate'

Thanks.

MrC

27th February 2009, 18:31

Is it possible to toggle-off AC3? To convert just m2v?

No, it is not possible. I'm curious: why?

:confused:

Bye

carlmart

27th February 2009, 21:11

No, it is not possible. I'm curious: why?

Just curious. I am trying to see what I could do and couldn't not do on the program.

Sorry.

Pulp Catalyst

6th March 2009, 18:28

brilliant program,

but the one thing i did notice which other programs does not cause,

is the amount of strain that was put on my output hard drive,

rejig, multiplexing, and DGPulldown were the 3 steps that put massive strain on my F drive, but my E drive wasn't really doing much work,

it's a shame that the demand on one hard drive couldn't be spread over 2 hard drives more efficiently,

i have used a lot of these types of program, and this one is the worse when it came to straining my one drive,

perhaps if the processes can't be tuned any further to help this issue, then maybe some kind of I/O throttling maybe in order, because man, my F drive (output folder) aged by at least 3 month after doing one film,

great program though, 4.5 stars for sure, would be 5 stars if it went a bit easier on my hard drive, (the noise from my drive did not sound healthy)

tried FAVC, Avi2ISO, film machine, and Diko, and this one (in my opinion) gave me the best results, and was running perfectly with 3rd party tools it used, and also credit has to be given to the final output size, 4.31GB, couldn't really ask for much better then that,

thanks,

Pulp Catalyst

6th March 2009, 21:45

i've done 2 films so far, for the 2nd film i swapped the temp folder and output folder over, i have noticed an increase in speed, not much, but some, the folder that takes most of the work (not sure which folder is used the most in the high read and write usage temp or output folder) is now been put to my SATA drive,

i have noticed after doing 2 films, that both films seem to have very small black bars added (top and bottom has it)

just to see if this can be avoided , i have converted both off the same films with ConvertxtoDVD, and these were OK, no added black bars were added, so i think there may be a Auto Cropping error, or something, not sure why, but i thought i should share my experience thus far,

did some cross comparisons of the quality of the image, from both programs (AVStoDVD & Convertxtodvd), and AVStoDVD does win hands down,

however, tried to convert one of the films from NTSC to PAL, and the output was not good, very jumpy playback, and no sound at all, the quality of the image was nice, but the playback speed was jumpy (sorry can't think of a better word).
although not a big problem, as most DVD players will playback PAL fine anyway, only televisions can some times be picky that's all,
but from my experience NTSC > PAL or PAL > NTSC is never perfect anyway, although i've never seen it as bad as what AVStoDVD produced,

i hope i'm not offending, i thought it's best to share ones experience rather then be silent,
objectivity can be a good thing right?

MrC

7th March 2009, 10:08

@Pulp Catalyst

first of all thanks for your comments and suggestions. Let's go thru the items.

1. "amount of strain that was put on my output hard drive"
You are the very first user that complains about that issue! BTW I can understand that, since CPU are becoming faster and faster, encoding time is no more the bottleneck, while hard drive I/O could become. A good compromise is to set the output folder (more used) to your fastest drive and temp folder to another one.

2. "small black bars added"
It depends from the DAR (Display Aspect Ratio) of source video. Does the output has the image distorted? No? Adding black bars (letterboxing) is correct. For more details you should post the AVStoDVD output log file

3. "NTSC > PAL"
To downsize FPS (from 29.97 to 25), AVStoDVD uses AviSynth function ChangeFPS(25). If you get jerkiness, you can try editing the AVS Script (go to 'Title Edit'/'AviSynth') and sobstitute ChangeFPS(25) with ConvertFPS(25).
Again, for more help, you should post the log file, which contains a lot of info about source video file and about encoding.

;)

Bye

Pulp Catalyst

7th March 2009, 14:52

sorry about that,

here's the log,
my aim was to leave it as NTSC, not sure why DGPulldown was run,

<06/03/2009 17:54:19>
START PROCESS
<>

<06/03/2009 17:54:19>
DVD SETTINGS
DVD Titles number: 1
DVD Video Standard: NTSC
DVD Chapters Interval: 5 min
DVD Menu: Static DVD Menu
DVD Size: 4435/4435 MB (100%)
DVD Output Setup: DVD Folder

Delete Temp Process Files: Yes
Delete Working Files: Yes
Edit Command Parameters: No
Save Log file: Yes
Output Folder: E:\VIDEOTEMP\AVStoDVD
<>

<06/03/2009 17:54:19>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: D:\High School Musical 3 Senior Year (2008).avi
Info: XviD - 2228 kbps - 720x384 - DAR 1.875 - 23.976 fps - PPF - 1:56:42 hours - 167896 frames
Audio: D:\High School Musical 3 Senior Year (2008).avi
Info: AC3 - 448 kbps - CBR - 48000Hz - 6ch - 1:56:39 hours
Subs:
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.10]
<>

<06/03/2009 17:54:19>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Import("D:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")

Video = A2DVideoSource("D:\High School Musical 3 Senior Year (2008).avi", CacheFolder = "F:\VIDEOFINISHED\AVStoDVD")
Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
#Using DGPulldown to upsize FPS
Video = Video.AddBorders(0,10,0,10)
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,480)

Return Video
<>

<06/03/2009 17:58:26>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: HCenc OPV 1-pass
Target Video FileSize: 3951.2 MB
HCenc Parameters: -ini "F:\VIDEOFINISHED\AVStoDVD\High School Musical 3 (Senior Year) 2008_0_Title_01.HCenc.ini"
HCenc ini file:
*INFILE F:\VIDEOFINISHED\AVStoDVD\High School Musical 3 (Senior Year) 2008_0_Title_01.avs
*AVSRELOAD
*OUTFILE E:\VIDEOTEMP\AVStoDVD\High School Musical 3 (Senior Year) 2008_0_Title_01.m2v
*LOGFILE F:\VIDEOFINISHED\AVStoDVD\High School Musical 3 (Senior Year) 2008_0_Title_01.HCenc.log
*MAXBITRATE 9000
*CQ_MAXBITRATE 3.126
*BITRATE 4733
*PROFILE BEST
*ASPECT 16:9
*PROGRESSIVE
*BIAS 50
*DC_PREC 9
*MATRIX MPEG
*AQ 1
*LUMGAIN 0
*SMP
*PRIORITY IDLE
*WAIT 2
<>

<06/03/2009 18:55:28>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: E:\VIDEOTEMP\AVStoDVD\High School Musical 3 (Senior Year) 2008_0_Title_01.m2v (4289.1 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 5228 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 23.976 fps - PPF - 1:56:35 hours - 167728 frames
<>

<06/03/2009 18:55:29>
START TRANSCODING OPERATIONS
ReJig Parameters: -size 3951 -o "E:\VIDEOTEMP\AVStoDVD\High School Musical 3 (Senior Year) 2008_0_Title_01.ReJig.m2v" -i "E:\VIDEOTEMP\AVStoDVD\High School Musical 3 (Senior Year) 2008_0_Title_01.m2v" -auto -close -quiet
<>

<06/03/2009 19:07:17>
END TRANSCODING OPERATIONS
Transcoding excuted on File: E:\VIDEOTEMP\AVStoDVD\High School Musical 3 (Senior Year) 2008_0_Title_01.m2v (3950.8 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 4815 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 23.976 fps - PPF - 1:56:35 hours - 167728 frames
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<06/03/2009 19:21:07>
END PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown executed on File: E:\VIDEOTEMP\AVStoDVD\High School Musical 3 (Senior Year) 2008_0_Title_01.m2v (3950.8 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 4810 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 29.97 fps - PPF - 1:56:42 hours - 209867 frames
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<06/03/2009 19:21:07>
START AUDIO DEMUXING OPERATIONS
FFmpeg Parameters: -i "D:\High School Musical 3 Senior Year (2008).avi" -acodec copy "E:\VIDEOTEMP\AVStoDVD\High School Musical 3 (Senior Year) 2008_0_Title_01.ToFix.ac3"
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<06/03/2009 19:23:30>
END AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: E:\VIDEOTEMP\AVStoDVD\High School Musical 3 (Senior Year) 2008_0_Title_01.ac3 (373.8 MB)
OUTPUT AUDIO INFO: AC3 - 448 kbps - CBR - 48000Hz - 6ch - 0 seconds
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<06/03/2009 19:23:40>
START DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
BatchMux Parameters: -arglist "F:\VIDEOFINISHED\AVStoDVD\High School Musical 3 (Senior Year) 2008_0_BatchMux.ini"
BatchMux ini file:
-d "E:\VIDEOTEMP\AVStoDVD\High School Musical 3 (Senior Year) 2008_0\VIDEO_TS"
-mxp "F:\VIDEOFINISHED\AVStoDVD\High School Musical 3 (Senior Year) 2008_0_MuxMan.mxp"
-l "F:\VIDEOFINISHED\AVStoDVD\High School Musical 3 (Senior Year) 2008_0_MuxMan.log"
-muxman "D:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\MuxMan"
-prio LOW
-v "E:\VIDEOTEMP\AVStoDVD\High School Musical 3 (Senior Year) 2008_0_Title_01.m2v"
-vidmode LB
-a1 "E:\VIDEOTEMP\AVStoDVD\High School Musical 3 (Senior Year) 2008_0_Title_01.ac3"
-a1lang en
-cellfr "F:\VIDEOFINISHED\AVStoDVD\High School Musical 3 (Senior Year) 2008_0_Title_01_MuxMan.txt"
-progfr "F:\VIDEOFINISHED\AVStoDVD\High School Musical 3 (Senior Year) 2008_0_Title_01_MuxMan.txt"
-chapfr "F:\VIDEOFINISHED\AVStoDVD\High School Musical 3 (Senior Year) 2008_0_Title_01_MuxMan.txt"
-SEG2v "F:\VIDEOFINISHED\AVStoDVD\High School Musical 3 (Senior Year) 2008_0_Menu.bmp"
-SEG2vidmode LB
-SEG2s1 "F:\VIDEOFINISHED\AVStoDVD\High School Musical 3 (Senior Year) 2008_0_Menu.sst"
-SEG2s1dmode WIDE_LB
-SEG2hlmnu "F:\VIDEOFINISHED\AVStoDVD\High School Musical 3 (Senior Year) 2008_0_Buttons.mnu"
-SEG2hlcsm "D:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\Menu\Highlight_Scheme.csm"
-hcn "F:\VIDEOFINISHED\AVStoDVD\High School Musical 3 (Senior Year) 2008_0_BatchMux.hcn"
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<06/03/2009 19:38:00>
END DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
Created Folder: E:\VIDEOTEMP\AVStoDVD\High School Musical 3 (Senior Year) 2008_0 (4417.2 MB)
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<06/03/2009 19:38:00>
Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.1.4
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marius1

7th March 2009, 17:58

anyone know how i can get bluray to convert to dvd with subtitles? I tried demuxing the SUP file from the m2ts stream and avstodvd recognizes the SUP file but the subtitles do not show up in the resulting DVD.

Sharc

8th March 2009, 08:08

You may want to try BDSup2Sub
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145277

MrC

8th March 2009, 15:36

@Pulp Catalyst

1. Where did you get that AVI? It has a NTSC 23.976 fps source to be pulldown (AVStoDVD did that, see DGPulldown section) to NTSC 29.97 fps. If source video is smooth, then output mpeg2 jerkiness is very very strange.

2. DAR is 1.875 and not 1.778. If source image is not distorted, applying small black bars (10 pixels) up and down is correct.

@marius1

Just to be sure, have you switched on the subtitles when you have played the DVD?

;)

Bye

marius1

8th March 2009, 17:12

@marius1

Just to be sure, have you switched on the subtitles when you have played the DVD?

;)

Bye

Yup, the DVD player recognizes that the subtitle is there but when you turn it on nothing shows up.

MrC

8th March 2009, 18:54

marius1

8th March 2009, 20:40

Ok. AVStoDVD takes SUP subtitles "as they are" without changes and mux them with video and audio.

Maybe you have to adjust them for DVD. I do not know BDSup2Sub, but it could be a good idea to give it a try.

;)

Bye

Odd, then I must be doing something wrong. I tried it on two different BD discs, and the results were the same. DVD Player thinks there's an english subtitle there but when i switch it on nothing displays.

setarip_old

8th March 2009, 21:51

@marius1

Hi!

Read the multiple "stickies" at the top of the "Subtitles" sub-forum here...

marius1

9th March 2009, 00:34

@marius1

Hi!

Read the multiple "stickies" at the top of the "Subtitles" sub-forum here...

I see the various stickies and various programs that will potentially allow me to do what I want, but I'd rather if AVStoDVD can do it for me. I like AVStoDVD quite a bit so far and if it can do the subtitle then there's no need for me to add more steps.

So in other words, if I'm doing something wrong with AVStoDVD (ie. AVStoDVD does do BD SUP properly) then I'd love to figure this out. If AVStoDVD cannot handle BD SUP files properly yet, then I will start playing with some of the programs listed in the stickies.

thanks.

MrC

9th March 2009, 19:57

So in other words, if I'm doing something wrong with AVStoDVD (ie. AVStoDVD does do BD SUP properly) then I'd love to figure this out. If AVStoDVD cannot handle BD SUP files properly yet, then I will start playing with some of the programs listed in the stickies.

I have never tried BD SUP, so I cannot say if AVStoDVD can handle them. Please send your SUP file to me (avstodvd@gmail.com) and I will do my best to see what we can do.

;)

Bye

MrC

10th March 2009, 22:56

marius1

11th March 2009, 15:19

@marius1

I have downloaded your SUP file and feeded into BDSup2Sup, without success: the sw recognizes only 1.195 seconds with no text.

You should address the issue directly to BDSup2Sup (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145277) authour, because I fear that is the only viable solution right now.

SubtitleCreator should be upgraded to support BD subs very soon. Let's wait.

;)

Bye
thanks for looking into this. Isn't BDSup2Sub designed for BD SUP files? Now i'm wondering if my SUP file is either corrupt or if I demuxed it incorrectly. I will play around with it when i get a chance.

Pulp Catalyst

13th March 2009, 14:13

i have 2 files, CD1 and CD2, how do i tell AVStoDVD to treat both of these files as one title?

MysticE

13th March 2009, 17:50

Got an odd little problem with the latest build. I use AVStoDVD to convert a lot of music videos. In the past many were PAL WS 4:3 VOB's stripped from Promo DVDs. I convert them to 16:9 NTSC. Lately I've been grabbing x264 rips and converting with no problems.

I recently grabbed a couple of PAL VOB's and both have audio sync problems when converted.

Here's the details:

Format : MPEG-PS
File size : 204 MiB
Duration : 3mn 36s
Overall bit rate : 7 915 Kbps

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Duration : 3mn 36s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 7 109 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 8 300 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Standard : PAL
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.801

Audio
ID : 128 (0x80)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Duration : 3mn 36s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 256 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

=================================

Format : MPEG-PS
File size : 170 MiB
Duration : 4mn 5s
Overall bit rate : 5 803 Kbps
Writing library : encoded by TMPGEnc (ver. 2.524.63.181)

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Duration : 4mn 5s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 5 144 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 8 000 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Standard : PAL
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.772
Writing library : TMPGEnc 2.524.63.181

Audio
ID : 128 (0x80)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Duration : 4mn 5s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 256 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

I have tried Quenc and HCenc. I have tried with keep compliant audio steams and without.

Here's the log from the 2nd one:

<3/13/2009 11:38:00 AM>
START PROCESS
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<3/13/2009 11:38:00 AM>
DVD SETTINGS
DVD Titles number: 1
DVD Video Standard: NTSC
DVD Size: 183/4435 MB (4%)
DVD Output Setup: MPEG2 File

Delete Temp Process Files: Yes
Delete Working Files: Yes
Edit Command Parameters: No
Save Log file: Yes
Output Folder: C:\TEMP\AVStoDVD
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<3/13/2009 11:38:00 AM>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: C:\Documents and Settings\Johnny\My Documents\Downloads\M Vids\HOT_CHiCKS_iN_DA_MiX-DVDR-2009-DmW\HOT_CHiCKS_iN_DA_MiX-DVDR-2009-DmW.vob
Info: MPEG-2 Video - 5452 kbps - 720x576 - DAR 1.333 - 25 fps - PPF - 4:05 minutes - 6139 frames
Audio: C:\Documents and Settings\Johnny\My Documents\Downloads\M Vids\HOT_CHiCKS_iN_DA_MiX-DVDR-2009-DmW\HOT_CHiCKS_iN_DA_MiX-DVDR-2009-DmW.vob
Info: AC3 - 256 kbps - CBR - 48000Hz - 2ch - 4:05 minutes
Subs:
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.10]
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<3/13/2009 11:38:00 AM>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Video = DirectShowSource("C:\Documents and Settings\Johnny\My Documents\Downloads\M Vids\HOT_CHiCKS_iN_DA_MiX-DVDR-2009-DmW\HOT_CHiCKS_iN_DA_MiX-DVDR-2009-DmW.vob", convertfps=true, audio=false)
Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
#Using DGPulldown to upsize FPS
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,480,0,66,0,-66)

Return Video
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<3/13/2009 11:38:07 AM>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: HCenc OPV 1-pass
Target Video FileSize: 176 MB
HCenc Parameters: -ini "C:\DOCUME~1\Johnny\LOCALS~1\Temp\HOT_CHiCKS_iN_DA_MiX-DVDR-2009-DmW_0_Title_01.HCenc.ini"
HCenc ini file:
*INFILE C:\DOCUME~1\Johnny\LOCALS~1\Temp\HOT_CHiCKS_iN_DA_MiX-DVDR-2009-DmW_0_Title_01.avs
*AVSRELOAD
*OUTFILE C:\TEMP\AVStoDVD\HOT_CHiCKS_iN_DA_MiX-DVDR-2009-DmW_0_Title_01.m2v
*LOGFILE C:\DOCUME~1\Johnny\LOCALS~1\Temp\HOT_CHiCKS_iN_DA_MiX-DVDR-2009-DmW_0_Title_01.HCenc.log
*MAXBITRATE 9000
*CQ_MAXBITRATE 2.07
*BITRATE 6000
*PROFILE BEST
*ASPECT 16:9
*PROGRESSIVE
*BIAS 60
*DC_PREC 9
*MATRIX MPEG
*AQ 1
*LUMGAIN 0
*SMP
*PRIORITY IDLE
*WAIT 2
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<3/13/2009 11:40:18 AM>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: C:\TEMP\AVStoDVD\HOT_CHiCKS_iN_DA_MiX-DVDR-2009-DmW_0_Title_01.m2v (184.6 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 6405 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 25 fps - PPF - 4:05 minutes - 6144 frames
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<3/13/2009 11:40:18 AM>
START TRANSCODING OPERATIONS
ReJig Parameters: -size 175 -o "C:\TEMP\AVStoDVD\HOT_CHiCKS_iN_DA_MiX-DVDR-2009-DmW_0_Title_01.ReJig.m2v" -i "C:\TEMP\AVStoDVD\HOT_CHiCKS_iN_DA_MiX-DVDR-2009-DmW_0_Title_01.m2v" -auto -close -quiet
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<3/13/2009 11:40:23 AM>
END TRANSCODING OPERATIONS
Transcoding excuted on File: C:\TEMP\AVStoDVD\HOT_CHiCKS_iN_DA_MiX-DVDR-2009-DmW_0_Title_01.m2v (174.7 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 6064 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 25 fps - PPF - 4:05 minutes - 6144 frames
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<3/13/2009 11:40:33 AM>
END PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown executed on File: C:\TEMP\AVStoDVD\HOT_CHiCKS_iN_DA_MiX-DVDR-2009-DmW_0_Title_01.m2v (174.7 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 6066 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 29.97 fps - PPF - 4:05 minutes - 7364 frames
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<3/13/2009 11:40:33 AM>
START AUDIO DEMUXING OPERATIONS
FFmpeg Parameters: -i "C:\Documents and Settings\Johnny\My Documents\Downloads\M Vids\HOT_CHiCKS_iN_DA_MiX-DVDR-2009-DmW\HOT_CHiCKS_iN_DA_MiX-DVDR-2009-DmW.vob" -acodec copy "C:\TEMP\AVStoDVD\HOT_CHiCKS_iN_DA_MiX-DVDR-2009-DmW_0_Title_01.ToFix.ac3"
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<3/13/2009 11:40:37 AM>
END AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: C:\TEMP\AVStoDVD\HOT_CHiCKS_iN_DA_MiX-DVDR-2009-DmW_0_Title_01.ac3 (7.5 MB)
OUTPUT AUDIO INFO: AC3 - 256 kbps - CBR - 48000Hz - 2ch - 0 seconds
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<3/13/2009 11:40:37 AM>
START MUXING OPERATIONS
ImagoMPEG-Muxer Parameters: "C:\TEMP\AVStoDVD\HOT_CHiCKS_iN_DA_MiX-DVDR-2009-DmW_0_Title_01.m2v" "C:\TEMP\AVStoDVD\HOT_CHiCKS_iN_DA_MiX-DVDR-2009-DmW_0_Title_01.ac3" -o
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<3/13/2009 11:40:48 AM>
END MUXING OPERATIONS
Created File: C:\TEMP\AVStoDVD\HOT_CHiCKS_iN_DA_MiX-DVDR-2009-DmW_0_Title_01.mpg (186 MB)
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<3/13/2009 11:40:48 AM>
Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.1.4
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When watching the audio conversion DOS screen I notice it says 6 channel which these are not. I believe in the past I was was using a pre-Aften version.

Note both these are properly converted with ConvertXtoDVD3.

MrC

13th March 2009, 23:29

@ Pulp Catalyst

No, you cannot. You have to merge them with another tool (i.e. VirtualDub) and then feed the resulting AVI into AVStoDVD

@MysticE

If you have already tried with and without "Keep DVD Audio" and if your source vob is originally in sync, then you can try to:
- remove the "fix AC3 errors" flag from the Settings
- edit the AVS script and sobstitute #Using DGPulldown to upsize FPS with Video=Video.ChangeFPS(29.97) (video could be more jerky)
- use a previous AVStoDVD release (i.e. 2.1.0) that used VirtualDubMod as audio demuxer instead of FFMpeg
- send me a sample of the vob

Let me know

;)

Bye

carlmart

15th March 2009, 20:34

Probably a stupid question.

As I am not familiar with avisynth yet, I am using AVStoDVD as the program to load my scripts in.

But now I am doing some tests, for which another topic was opened in Doom9, to convert DV video onto HD video.

What I wonder is if I can till get AVStoDVD to process my files, as I am not after a DVD compatible file now.

MrC

16th March 2009, 20:04

@calmart

surely not stupid... but not clear. Please clarify better.

:)

Bye

carlmart

16th March 2009, 21:33

surely not stupid... but not clear. Please clarify better.

Let's see if I can.

If I understand your program, it links several functions into one, with the main objective of making easy to end up with a DVD or DVD compatible files. Right?

Until now I have been using it for that. It also has been my timid introduction to avisynth and avisynth scripts.

But now I am entering a new field: processing DV and HDV files. The main objective, if possible, is to process DV files so I can upscale them to HD, by resizing and several other ways.

What I asked was if I could use your program mainly to handle the scripts, but I don't think it will be useful for my purpose.

MrC

16th March 2009, 22:37

@calmart

Yes, of course you can use AVStoDVD to generate simple script. But, keep in mind that AVStoDVD scripts follow DVD standard, not HD standard. You have to know the HD specifications and adjust the script according to them (screen size, aspect ratio, framerate...).

;)

Bye

marius1

19th March 2009, 05:04

@marius1

I have downloaded your SUP file and feeded into BDSup2Sup, without success: the sw recognizes only 1.195 seconds with no text.

You should address the issue directly to BDSup2Sup (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145277) authour, because I fear that is the only viable solution right now.

SubtitleCreator should be upgraded to support BD subs very soon. Let's wait.

;)

Bye

MrC!
Hey i just wanted to let you know that I just tried BDSup2Sup v2.2 and the SUP file loads fine. Perhaps I will convert it to an IDX file next time before trying AVStoDVD again.

marius1

20th March 2009, 03:36

MrC!
Hey i just wanted to let you know that I just tried BDSup2Sup v2.2 and the SUP file loads fine. Perhaps I will convert it to an IDX file next time before trying AVStoDVD again.

Oh you know what would be amazing. It would be awesome if AVStoDVD can demux the subtitle from m2ts and convert as well. :p

carlmart

20th March 2009, 14:37

I have an old film that I recorded off the air that I want to crop in the upper border. It would be a resize but irregular. It would be a question o tryng different values until I crop-off what I want.

How can I do that with AVStoDVD?

MrC

20th March 2009, 20:01

@marius1

Many things could be awesome... but AVStoDVD is not a subs demuxer/editor. You can understand. ;)

@calmart

Go to 'Title Edit'/'AviSynth' and play around with 'Crop' and 'Preview Clip'

:)

Bye

carlmart

20th March 2009, 20:29

Go to 'Title Edit'/'AviSynth' and play around with 'Crop' and 'Preview Clip'

OK. Could do it fine.

carlmart

22nd March 2009, 20:37

I have been trying to see how I could use AVStoDVD to join two avi files and output a single m2t file.

There doesn't seem to be a specific command to do that. I think perhaps avisynth could do it, but I am not sure how.

After some googling I got to a command that might do it, but I am not sure what text would need to get it into AVStoDVD. The command would be:

DirectShowSource("c:\Path_And_Filename1.avi")+DirectShowSource("c:\Path_And_Filename2.avi")

What command should I load into the Avisynth Script page?

MrC

23rd March 2009, 22:58

You can sobstitute this script line:

Video = A2DVideoSource("c:\Path_And_Filename.avi", CacheFolder = "C:\YourTempFolder")

with these lines:

Video1 = A2DVideoSource("c:\Path_And_Filename1.avi", CacheFolder = "C:\YourTempFolder")
Video2 = A2DVideoSource("c:\Path_And_Filename2.avi", CacheFolder = "C:\YourTempFolder")
Video = Video1 + Video2

Please take note that, with a "red" AVS script, AVStoDVD will not correctly compute output size calculation.

;)

Bye

carlmart

24th March 2009, 03:25

carlmart

24th March 2009, 15:48

Well, new try, new failure.

The video comes joined alright, the audio does not.

I tried it again using a line, which I don't know if it's "legitimate": audio = audio1 + audio2. But it didn't get me a joined audio file.

Any suggestion on how I can get there with avisynth?

BTW: there's another issue which I tried both ways and got the same wrong results, which is loading both files with Add Title or loading just one.

MysticE

24th March 2009, 20:16

I have been trying to see how I could use AVStoDVD to join two avi files and output a single m2t file...
It might be easiest to just do it first. There are many free apps to do this.

This one would be a good choice as it also removes any audio delays that can sometimes cause sync problems.

http://www.alexander-noe.com/video/amg/

Avidemux also works well.

Flux

24th March 2009, 20:25

Why Hcenc VBR 2-pass use only about 60-70% from each four CPU cores? I don't know if other two options do same because I choose 2-pass for everything.

carlmart

24th March 2009, 22:21

It might be easiest to just do it first. There are many free apps to do this.

This one would be a good choice as it also removes any audio delays that can sometimes cause sync problems.

http://www.alexander-noe.com/video/amg/

Thanks. A very cool and simple program.

Now I will go through AVStoDVD and do the rest.

But I still wonder if there's no way to do it with ATD.

MrC

24th March 2009, 22:57

@calmart

a full "joining" script could be like this (adapt it to your needs):

Import("C:\Programmi\AV\AVStoDVD\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")

Video1 = A2DVideoSource("D:\Film1.avi", CacheFolder = "D:\Temp")
Video2 = A2DVideoSource("D:\Film2.avi", CacheFolder = "D:\Temp")
Video = Video1 + Video2
Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,576)

Audio1 = A2DAudioSource("D:\Film1.avi", CacheFolder = "D:\Temp")
Audio2 = A2DAudioSource("D:\Film2.avi", CacheFolder = "D:\Temp")
Audio = Audio1 + Audio2
Audio = Audio.SSRC(48000)

AudioDub(Video, Audio)

BTW, I agree with MysticE that you should join AVIs *before* going thru AVStoDVD.

@Flux

I made no tweaks to improve HCenc handling of multicore CPU, just added the command *SMP which turns on multithread encoding in HCenc.
If your 4core is not fully used by HCenc, your complains should be addressed to HCenc.

;)

Bye

carlmart

24th March 2009, 23:22

@calmart

a full "joining" script could be like this (adapt it to your needs):

Import("C:\Programmi\AV\AVStoDVD\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")

Video1 = A2DVideoSource("D:\Film1.avi", CacheFolder = "D:\Temp")
Video2 = A2DVideoSource("D:\Film2.avi", CacheFolder = "D:\Temp")
Video = Video1 + Video2
Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,576)

Audio1 = A2DAudioSource("D:\Film1.avi", CacheFolder = "D:\Temp")
Audio2 = A2DAudioSource("D:\Film2.avi", CacheFolder = "D:\Temp")
Audio = Audio1 + Audio2
Audio = Audio.SSRC(48000)

AudioDub(Video, Audio)

BTW, I agree with MysticE that you should join AVIs *before* going thru AVStoDVD.

Thanks. I already followed MysticE advice.

But it's good to know I can still use AVStoDVD for that.

hlrsnd

1st April 2009, 03:04

Hello,

I'm experimenting with this fine program. I have short Canon camera .avi files which I join together with simple Avisynth scripts. I save the joined files by saving as .avi in Virtualdub. The original files are motion jpegs and I am using ffdshow's motion jpeg video format for the joins.

I have tried using both AVISource and DirectShowSource for my Avisynth scripts. Both produce apparently similar .avi files which play fine in Virtualdub and WMP, and appear to be the same in GSpot.

However, the files are somehow different. Those created using DirectShowSource work fine in AVStoDVD. Those created using AVISource always crash. Through trial and error, I have discovered that the problem is the audio. If I save an AVISource .avi with no audio, it opens fine in AVStoDVD.

I have tried using various forms of audio compression in Virtualdub, and Direct Stream Copy. Nothing works using AVISource. I would like to use AVISource, because it's almost twice as fast as DirectShowSource when processing in Virtualdub.

What am I missing or doing wrong?

MrC

1st April 2009, 22:05

From AviSynth documentation:

AVISource takes as argument one or more file name in quotes, and reads in the file(s) using either the Video-for-Windows "AVIFile" interface, or AviSynth's built-in OpenDML code (taken from VirtualDub). This filter can read any file for which there's an AVIFile handler. This includes not only AVI files but also WAV files, AVS (AviSynth script) files, and VDR (VirtualDub frameserver) files. If you give multiples filenames as arguments, the clips will be spliced together with UnalignedSplice. The bool argument is optional and defaults to true.

The AVISource filter examines the file to determine its type and passes it to either the AVIFile handler or the OpenDML handler as appropriate. In case you have trouble with one or the other handler, you can also use the OpenDMLSource and AVIFileSource filters, which force the use of one or the other handler. Either handler can read ordinary (< 2GB) AVI files, but only the OpenDML handler can read larger AVI files, and only the AVIFile handler can read other file types like WAV, VDR and AVS.

Up to v2.04, WAVSource was an alias to AVIFileSource. In later versions, WAVSource doesn't try to open the video stream anymore. It can be useful if you want to retrieve the audio stream from an AVI file but the video stream is damaged or its compression method is not supported on your system.

From v2.04 up there is built-in support for ACM (Audio Compression Manager) audio (e.g. mp3-AVIs). AVISource is also no longer able to open WAV-files, which must be accessed by using WAVSource.

From v2.06 the pixel_type parameter (default YUY2) allows you to choose the output format of the decompressor. Valid values are "YUY2", "RGB32" and "RGB24". If omitted, AviSynth will use the first format supported by the decompressor (in the following order: YUY2, RGB32, RGB24). This parameter has no effect if the video is in an uncompressed format (YUY2, RGB32 or RGB24), because no decompressor will be used in that case. From v2.5 the default pixel_type parameter is changed to YV12. To put it in different words: if you don't specify something it will try to output the AVI as YV12, if that isn't possible it tries YUY2 and if that isn't possible it tries RGB.

Sometimes the colors will be distorted when loading a DivX clip in AviSynth v2.5 (the chroma channels U and V are swapped), due to a bug in DivX (5.02 and older). You can use SwapUV to correct it.

From v2.53 AVISource can also open DV type 1 video input (only video, not audio).

From v2.55, an option fourCC is added. FourCC, is a FOUR Character Code in the beginning of media file, mostly associated with avi, that tells what codec your system should use for decoding the file. You can use this to force AviSource to open the avi file using a different codec. A list of FOURCCs can be found here. By default, the fourCC of the avi is used.

If you are saving in mp3 format, AVISource should be able to open it. For more info, please post here the log file of your crashed AVStoDVD project.

;)

Bye

hlrsnd

2nd April 2009, 02:56

From AviSynth documentation:

If you are saving in mp3 format, AVISource should be able to open it. For more info, please post here the log file of your crashed AVStoDVD project.

;)

Bye

I tried some more tests and the problem appears to be solved. It was a strange one: My file names had the text "AVISource" in them. Your program cannot use AVISource for AC3 audio, so it appears to automatically change every instance of AVISource to DirectShowSource. Unfortunately, in my case, that meant the Avisynth script was looking for audio in a file that didn't exist.

My solution was to rename AVISource in my file names to AVIS. Everything seems to work now.

MrC

2nd April 2009, 09:43

hlrsnd

3rd April 2009, 02:31

AVISource cannot read AC3 audio, so AVStoDVD forces DirectShowSource if AC3 audio (to be encoded) is found. It adds a comment to the script:

#'AVISource' replaced with 'DirectShowSource' for AC3 audio support

Could you post your AVS script or (better) the entire log file?

;)

Bye

Here is the log file with my comments. The file name includes the text "AVISource" which is causing the error.

<4/2/2009 9:22:53 PM>
START PROCESS
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<4/2/2009 9:22:53 PM>
DVD SETTINGS
DVD Titles number: 1
DVD Video Standard: PAL
DVD Chapters Interval: 5 min
DVD Menu: Static DVD Menu
DVD Size: 8/4435 MB (0%)
DVD Output Setup: DVD Folder

Delete Temp Process Files: Yes
Delete Working Files: Yes
Edit Command Parameters: No
Save Log file: Yes
Output Folder: D:\Dave's Documents
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<4/2/2009 9:22:53 PM>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: D:\Dave's Documents\TEST AVISource.avi
Info: M-JPEG - 14400 kbps - 640x480 - DAR 1.333 - 30 fps - PPF - 6 seconds - 202 frames
Audio: D:\Dave's Documents\TEST AVISource.avi

***AUDIO FILE NAME IS CORRECT HERE***

Info: PCM - 705 kbps - CBR - 44100Hz - 1ch - 6 seconds
Subs:
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.10]
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<4/2/2009 9:22:53 PM>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Video = AVISource("D:\Dave's Documents\TEST AVISource.avi", audio=false)
Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
Video = Video.ChangeFPS(25)
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,576)

Audio = DirectShowSource("D:\Dave's Documents\TEST DirectShowSource.avi")

***AUDIO FILE NAME HAS BEEN CHANGED BY PROGRAM***

#'AVISource' replaced with 'DirectShowSource' for AC3 audio support
Audio = Audio.SSRC(48000)
Audio = Audio.ConvertToMono

AudioDub(Video, Audio)
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<4/2/2009 9:22:53 PM>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: QuEnc CBR 1-pass
Target Video FileSize: 7.1 MB
QuEnc Parameters: -i "C:\DOCUME~1\Dave\LOCALS~1\Temp\TEST_0_Title_01.avs" -o "D:\Dave's Documents\TEST_0_Title_01.m2v" -b 8500 -1 -hq -novbr -scene -trell -aspectratio 4:3 -nointerlaced -mpeg2mux noaudio -dc 10 -priority 5 -auto -close
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<4/2/2009 9:23:04 PM>
PROCESS ABORTED DURING TITLE 1 VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS.

CHECK LOG FILE <D:\DAVE'S DOCUMENTS\TEST_0.LOG> FOR MORE INFO.
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<4/2/2009 9:23:04 PM>
Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.1.4
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MrC

3rd April 2009, 07:38

Thanks, you found a little bug in the AVS script analisys routine.

I will fix in next release

;)

Bye

carlmart

7th April 2009, 02:31

I'm getting this:

Run-time error '383'.
'Text' property is read-only.

What might be happening and what can I do to solve it?

It happened both in versions 2.1.3 and 2.1.4.

MrC

7th April 2009, 19:11

Well, the message is very generic. Could you specify when it happens? If the cause is sistematic is much better.

:)

Bye

carlmart

9th April 2009, 11:58

Well, the message is very generic. Could you specify when it happens? If the cause is sistematic is much better.

Well, I have a DVD that I demuxed, both with PgcDemux and DGIndex, and when I load the files I get that message. It doesn't happen with other files I loaded.

MrC

10th April 2009, 20:22

You are saying that you have 2 files: one m2v and one ac3, do you? When does the error message come out? When you add them to the titles list? Or when you try to edit the title?

:?

Bye

rendez2k

10th April 2009, 21:44

I think I've asked a similar question before, but is there anyway to edit the avg video bitrate for all the added files in one go? I've added 17 videos and it would be handy to be able to globally set them to the value I need.

carlmart

11th April 2009, 02:12

You are saying that you have 2 files: one m2v and one ac3, do you? When does the error message come out? When you add them to the titles list? Or when you try to edit the title?

I get to load the file, but when I click on Edit Title settings I get that message.

MrC

11th April 2009, 15:02

@calmart

What kind of audio/video streams are contained in the file that gives you the error?

@rendez2k

No way right now to set one bitrate for all (17! wow!) titles. Actual best approach is to play with 'Custom DVD Size' to find the filesize that fit the wanted bitrate.

;)

Bye

carlmart

11th April 2009, 19:40

@calmart

What kind of audio/video streams are contained in the file that gives you the error?

It's an m2v file that was demuxed from the DVD with PgcDemux.

Richardw322

12th April 2009, 16:10

12th April 2009, 16:24

I have a little problem here with audio sync. I have aAVI file with XVID video and AC3 audio, and when I try to create a DVD, the audio is out of sync. I can't preview and use delay because no audio in the preview. Is this a limitation of AVS2DVD, or is there some other workaround? I guess I could make a pass and then use FFDshow to figure the delay, and then make a second pass, but that seems a little involved.

Run your files through AVI-Mux GUI before conversion to DVD, if there are any sync issues they will show up & AVI-Mux GUI will fix the problem(Read the online manual)
http://www.alexander-noe.com/video/amg/

Good Luck.

MrC

12th April 2009, 22:37

@calmart

And the audio stream? Is it an AC3? I would try to reset AVStoDVD settings by pressing 'Option'/'Restore default settings'.

@Richardw322

wg' suggestion is good. BTW another path (that will lead to audio re-encoding) could be: go to 'Settings'/'AudioVideo' and toggle off 'Keep DVD compliant audio'. Audio preview will be activated and you can play with 'DelayAudio'.

;)

Bye

carlmart

12th April 2009, 23:51

And the audio stream? Is it an AC3? I would try to reset AVStoDVD settings by pressing 'Option'/'Restore default settings'.

There's no AC3 stream to be loaded: the file is demuxed. The video I am loading IS the demuxed video.

Pressing "Option'/'Restore default settings" just deletes my input.

MrC

13th April 2009, 17:03

Richardw322

13th April 2009, 23:13

wg, That worked a charm. Made a great DVD.

MrC: Another good suggustion, that would have worked. Another question. I like to make DVD's with a single title, but a menu. That leaves me with a play all button, and the thumbnail button. Seems redundent to me. Any way to get rid of one or the other? I tried shrinking the thumbnail to 4x2, but then I get "Can't resize image" on the menu. (Made that damn thing 4 times yesterday before I was happy with it, between the audio and the menu).

Thanks guys!

carlmart

13th April 2009, 23:58

You are saying that you are loading a single m2v file without audio? It should be an easy scenario...

Could you please take a shot of the main AVStoDVD form with the error message box and post it here?

OK. Here it is the error message screen,

http://forum.doom9.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=9763&stc=1&d=1239663373

What can you make of it?

carlmart

15th April 2009, 11:43

Sometimes when I press the Preview Title Output button, what I get is an upside down image.

This usually turns out right when conversion is finished. But I had some (rare) cases when this doesn't happen.

Why's that and what (script line?) puts things back as they should?

MrC

15th April 2009, 19:27

Calmart, you really shock me ;) One frame video and flipped video... :scared:

Let me do some check with a "1 frame" video sample like yours. About flipped video, you should ask in AviSynth section, because AVStoDVD does not add any instruction like that.

:)

Bye

MikeyBK

17th April 2009, 20:10

MrC,
perhaps I'm configuring AVStoDVD incorrectly for the audio encoding, but it seems to be choking while Aften is needed to encode the audio. The source is an m2ts of the In the Name of the King movie. I've tried three different times..using the original m2ts from the Bluray with DTS-HD audio, that m2ts remuxed with TSMuxer whilst downconverting that DTS-Master to DTS, and also a BD-Rebuilder output which was a BD-9 with 640 kbps AC3 audio. All three errored in Aften stating something about error allocating buffer? @ frame 0??
I should've saved a screenshot of the Aften command window, but thought it would show up in the AVStoDVD log, which it didn't...

Below is the latest log, not sure if you know what may be going wrong or what I may be misconfiguring.
I remember you mentioning to me how AVStoDVD is superior to ConvertXtoDVD which I normally use, and on this 2 hour 45 minute film I thought I'd give it a full encoding attempt.
The m2v produced by HCEnc does look far better than the ConvertX output... just if I can get AVStoDVD to get Aften to to worlk on the audio??

The version of Aften in BD-Rebuilder works fine on the m2ts fles regardless of which audio format as a source.

<4/17/2009 2:50:50 AM>
START PROCESS
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<4/17/2009 2:50:50 AM>
DVD SETTINGS
DVD Titles number: 1
DVD Video Standard: NTSC
DVD Chapters Interval: 5 min
DVD Menu: Static DVD Menu
DVD Size: 4435/4435 MB (100%)
DVD Output Setup: DVD Folder

Delete Temp Process Files: Yes
Delete Working Files: Yes
Edit Command Parameters: No
Save Log file: Yes
Output Folder: C:\Documents and Settings\MBK SYS\My Documents\My Videos\test
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<4/17/2009 2:50:50 AM>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: J:\FULL_BluRay\IN_NAME_OF_KING\BDMV\STREAM\00013.m2ts
Info: AVC - 0 kbps - 1920x1080 - DAR 1.778 - 23.976 fps - PPF - 2:42:10 hours - 233543 frames
Audio: J:\FULL_BluRay\IN_NAME_OF_KING\BDMV\STREAM\00013.m2ts
Info: DTS-HD - 0 kbps - VBR - 48000Hz - 6ch - 2:42:20 hours
Subs:
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.10]
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<4/17/2009 2:50:50 AM>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Import("C:\Documents and Settings\MBK SYS\My Documents\Downloaded Files\AVStoDVD_214_NoInstall\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")

Video = A2DVideoSource("J:\FULL_BluRay\IN_NAME_OF_KING\BDMV\STREAM\00013.m2ts", CacheFolder = "C:\DOCUME~1\MBKSYS~1\LOCALS~1\Temp")
Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
#Using DGPulldown to upsize FPS
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,480)

Audio = GetChannel(A2DAudioSource("J:\FULL_BluRay\IN_NAME_OF_KING\BDMV\STREAM\00013.m2ts", CacheFolder = "C:\DOCUME~1\MBKSYS~1\LOCALS~1\Temp"), 1, 3, 2, 5, 6, 4)

AudioDub(Video, Audio)
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<4/17/2009 2:50:50 AM>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: HCenc VBR 2-pass
Target Video FileSize: 4068.2 MB
HCenc Parameters: -ini "C:\DOCUME~1\MBKSYS~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\00013_0_Title_01.HCenc.ini"
HCenc ini file:
*INFILE C:\DOCUME~1\MBKSYS~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\00013_0_Title_01.avs
*AVSRELOAD
*OUTFILE C:\Documents and Settings\MBK SYS\My Documents\My Videos\test\00013_0_Title_01.m2v
*LOGFILE C:\DOCUME~1\MBKSYS~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\00013_0_Title_01.HCenc.log
*MAXBITRATE 9000
*BITRATE 3507
*PROFILE BEST
*ASPECT 16:9
*PROGRESSIVE
*BIAS 40
*DC_PREC 8
*MATRIX MPEG
*AQ 1
*LUMGAIN 0
*SMP
*PRIORITY IDLE
*WAIT 2
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<4/17/2009 6:32:34 AM>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: C:\Documents and Settings\MBK SYS\My Documents\My Videos\test\00013_0_Title_01.m2v (4073.4 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 3567 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 23.976 fps - PPF - 2:42:10 hours - 233293 frames
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<4/17/2009 6:42:02 AM>
END PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown executed on File: C:\Documents and Settings\MBK SYS\My Documents\My Videos\test\00013_0_Title_01.m2v (4073.4 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 3564 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 29.97 fps - PPF - 2:42:19 hours - 291906 frames
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<4/17/2009 6:42:02 AM>
START AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Wavi (WAV) Parameters: "C:\DOCUME~1\MBKSYS~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\00013_0_Title_01.avs" "C:\DOCUME~1\MBKSYS~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\00013_0_Title_01.wav"
Aften (AC3) Parameters: -b 192 "C:\DOCUME~1\MBKSYS~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\00013_0_Title_01.wav" "C:\Documents and Settings\MBK SYS\My Documents\My Videos\test\00013_0_Title_01.ac3"
<>

gizzin

17th April 2009, 22:11

Has anyone noticed any stuttering during the first 5mins when re-encoding mkvs to dvd? Its a very slight stuttering but its really noticeable when the camera is moving.

MikeyBK

18th April 2009, 14:29

MrC

18th April 2009, 18:00

MikeyBK

18th April 2009, 22:38

@MikeyBK

Be careful when muxing the AC3 output from BD: you said that its bitrate is 640 kbps, which is not DVD-compliant (max is 448 kbps). For max compliance you should re-encode audio @ 448 kbps.

Before starting an AVStoDVD project, mainly if it could be last for a long time, it is always better to run the Preview Clip section. For example, if you have not correctly configured your directshow audio mixer (i.e. ffdshow), then an AviSynth error message will be prompted. That could be a reason of Aften crashing in AVStoDVD.

;)

Bye

Thanks for the info MrC...
I'm currently now trying it with 448 kbps AC3 in that m2ts... will let you know if that was it.
As for the audio mixer in FFDSHOW, it is set how it came as default. Do I need to configure it differently for aften to work with AVStoDVD?

Aften in BD-RB doesn't seem to have any issues with any of the audios for me?

MikeyBK

19th April 2009, 01:54

@MikeyBK

Be careful when muxing the AC3 output from BD: you said that its bitrate is 640 kbps, which is not DVD-compliant (max is 448 kbps). For max compliance you should re-encode audio @ 448 kbps.

Kudos to you MrC! You pinpointed the problem pretty well. It ran perfectly once I had the AC3 audio encoded to 448 kbps in the input m2ts file.
And the results are absolutely fantabulous..:thumbsup: Incredible PQ.

Thanks for a great app.... will recommend it to all...

MrC

19th April 2009, 10:15

Nice to hear you fix it! :)

About ffdshow audio mixer, best setting (I do not remember if it is the default setting) is "same as input". So you can forget to switch between 1.0, 2.0 and 5.1.

;)

Bye

carlmart

25th April 2009, 11:00

I am trying to process an m2v file and make it smaller through AVStoDVD, and I am getting an upside down image.

This is not the first time I get this upside image with this program. On other times it did show an upside image when previewing title output, but the final output was fine.

This time is the opposite: the preview looks fine, but the output is upside down.

The log file is this:

<25/04/2009 0:03:59>
START PROCESS
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<25/04/2009 0:03:59>
DVD SETTINGS
DVD Titles number: 1
DVD Video Standard: NTSC
DVD Size: 4143/4435 MB (93%)
DVD Output Setup: MPEG2 Streams

Delete Temp Process Files: Yes
Delete Working Files: Yes
Edit Command Parameters: No
Save Log file: Yes
Output Folder: C:\tmp
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<25/04/2009 0:03:59>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: D:\---\---.m2v
Info: MPEG-2 Video - 5584 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1,778 - 29,97 fps - PPF - 1:58:11 hours - 212543 frames
Audio:
Info:
Subs:
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.8]
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<25/04/2009 0:03:59>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Import("C:\video\AVStoDVD\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")

Video = A2DVideoSource("D:\---\---.m2v", CacheFolder = "C:\DOCUME~1\cem\CONFIG~1\Temp")
Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,480)

Return Video
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<25/04/2009 0:03:59>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: HCenc VBR 2-pass
Target Video FileSize: 4142,6 MB
HCenc Parameters: -ini "C:\DOCUME~1\cem\CONFIG~1\Temp\The Replacements.demuxed_1_Title_01.HCenc.ini"
HCenc ini file:
*INFILE C:\DOCUME~1\cem\CONFIG~1\Temp\---.demuxed_1_Title_01.avs
*AVSRELOAD
*OUTFILE C:\tmp\---.demuxed_1_Title_01.m2v
*LOGFILE C:\DOCUME~1\cem\CONFIG~1\Temp\---.demuxed_1_Title_01.HCenc.log
*MAXBITRATE 9000
*BITRATE 4900
*PROFILE BEST
*ASPECT 16:9
*PROGRESSIVE
*BIAS 50
*DC_PREC 9
*MATRIX MPEG
*AQ 1
*LUMGAIN 0
*SMP
*PRIORITY IDLE
*WAIT 2
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<25/04/2009 1:24:07>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: C:\tmp\---.demuxed_1_Title_01.m2v (4148,3 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 4987 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1,778 - 29,97 fps - PPF - 1:58:11 hours - 212544 frames
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<25/04/2009 1:24:07>
Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.1.3
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What can I do?

MrC

25th April 2009, 13:56

@calmart

1. Download and install 2.1.4 release
2. Force DirectShowSource instead of A2DSource. Go to 'Settings'/'Encoding'/'AVS Source Filter'

Let me know

;)

Bye

carlmart

25th April 2009, 18:50

1. Download and install 2.1.4 release

Sorry, I thought that's the version I was using.

2. Force DirectShowSource instead of A2DSource. Go to 'Settings'/'Encoding'/'AVS Source Filter'

OK. Did that. Got the same inverted image.

MrC

25th April 2009, 21:51

IMO there is some kind of codec misconfiguration. I suggest you to uninstall *every* video codec and splitter you have installed and try only with a stable ffdshow release.

If you get again the error, then send me (avstodvd@gmail.com) a short sample of your video file.

Did you search into Doom9 forum for a similar issue?

;)

Bye

carlmart

25th April 2009, 22:47

IMO there is some kind of codec misconfiguration. I suggest you to uninstall *every* video codec and splitter you have installed and try only with a stable ffdshow release.

Before going into a deep uninstallation, it would be better to get of list of "safe" codecs and what should be installed. Is there a place we can get that?

If you get again the error, then send me (avstodvd@gmail.com) a short sample of your video file.

That's fine, but it might be better to upload it somewhere, or it may take days to send

Did you search into Doom9 forum for a similar issue?

Just now, only a little bit. But it's been happening now and then for some time. That's why I did spend some time lately doing things though avisynth directly.

MysticE

25th April 2009, 23:16

Brazil2

26th April 2009, 14:18

I have installed Avisynth 2.58 and also the DirectShowSource_2587 update. A simple Version AVS script is working fine and is showing the correct version number in WMP.

I have downloaded AVStoDVD_214_NoInstall.7z and unpacked it in a dedicated folder. But when I run it it keeps on saying that Avisynth is not found.
I have reinstalled Avisynth and also the DirectShowSource update but that didn't help, AVStoDVD still can't find Avisynth. But Version.avs is still working fine.

Windows XP 32 bits
Avisynth is in C:\Program Files\Avisynth
AVStoDVD is in E:\Test\Video\AVStoDVD

Any ideas why AVStoDVD can't find Avisynth ?

MrC

26th April 2009, 15:21

@calmart

for broken codecs, follow MysticE suggestion (:thanks:)

for uploading large files, you can use mediafire.com

@Brazil2

AVStoDVD checks if in the win registry the key "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\AviSynth" is present and if it contains the string "AviSynth". Could you please check it manually and report back?
BTW you can skip software integrity control routine by disabling AVStoDVD spash screen ('Settings'/'Misc')

;)

Bye

carlmart

26th April 2009, 16:19

@calmart

for broken codecs, follow MysticE suggestion (:thanks:)

for uploading large files, you can use mediafire.com

I did go with Filmmerit and ordered it to repair the problematic files one by one.

There was only one I couldn't repair or find the dll of, not even looking for it on the web. It should be video compressor codec called cmiccodc.dll

But I went a different way with that film, using HCgui and avisynth.

Thanks anyway.

Brazil2

26th April 2009, 16:21

AVStoDVD checks if in the win registry the key "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\AviSynth" is present and if it contains the string "AviSynth". Could you please check it manually and report back?
The key exists but it's empty. There is only a Default value which is empty as well.
Please you could tell me how this registry key is exactly supposed to be ? Export this registry key and post it as a Code part maybe ?

BTW you can skip software integrity control routine by disabling AVStoDVD spash screen ('Settings'/'Misc')
But that doesn't help because Avisynth still appears as not found in the software list.

MrC

26th April 2009, 18:19

@Brazil2

On a correct AviSynth installation, key "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\AviSynth" should have a default value like this: "C:\Program files\AviSynth 2.5" (this is what AVStoDVD checks) and a "plugindir2_5" value like this: "C:\Program files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins"

Even if you get the warning that AviSynth is not found, you can ignore it and continue using AVStoDVD

;)

Bye

Brazil2

26th April 2009, 20:27

On a correct AviSynth installation, key "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\AviSynth" should have a default value like this: "C:\Program files\AviSynth 2.5" (this is what AVStoDVD checks) and a "plugindir2_5" value like this: "C:\Program files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins"
OK, it's now working fine after adding these keys to the registry.

I don't know why they weren't there, maybe because I have changed the default installation folder from "AviSynth 2.5" to "AviSynth" ? It might be a bug in the Avisynth installer.

Anyway thanks for the info :)

Milardo

7th May 2009, 06:33

Hi again, I've just tested the latest build (above) and found a few bugs and have a few feature requests/small changes. One question is imgburn allowed to be distributed/used in other software? Because if it is you could include in the installation/no install version using the portable imgburn version. Another question is how do you manually add another menu page? Is it possible to change the bitrate/resolution of the menus? Lastly, is there a way to just choose one bitrate for video encoding like the audio encoding? I'm sorry I don't understand all the low/high bitrate settings. Most dvd apps I've tried have just one setting for video bitrate. Is there a way to access the chapters by way of menu? Anyways some bugs I found would be I had a mpeg file encoded by Kiss encoder ([url]http://www.videohelp.com/tools/Kiss_DTV_2_DVD) that said I had to type in a duration time. Another bug I found was that sometimes when you try to edit the titles a second time I got an error message-runtime error '383' 'Text Property' is read-only. Another bug is when I tried using already dvd-compliant files I got this log where it failed to encode audio.

<5/6/2009 8:58:09 PM>
START PROCESS
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<5/6/2009 8:58:09 PM>
PROJECT SETTINGS

DVD Video Standard: NTSC
DVD Titles number: 2
DVD Size: 65/4435 MB (1%)
DVD Output Setup: DVD Folder
DVD Label: Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
DVD Menu: Motion Menu
Output Folder: C:\Documents and Settings\Reggie\Desktop
Save Log file: Yes
Delete Temp Process Files: Yes
Delete Working Files: Yes
Edit Command Parameters: Yes
Post Process Task: Show Progress Status window

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<5/6/2009 8:58:09 PM>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: C:\Documents and Settings\Reggie\My Documents\Kiss Videos\Project-(1)\twinsac3\TWINS - ( KTV )_New.m2v
Info: MPEG-2 Video - 589 kbps - 352x240 - DAR 1.333 - 29.97 fps - PPF - 3:44 minutes - 6729 frames
Audio: C:\Documents and Settings\Reggie\My Documents\Kiss Videos\Project-(1)\twinsac3\TWINS - ( KTV )_New.ac3
Info: AC3 - 64 kbps - CBR - 48000Hz - 2ch - 3:45 minutes
Subs:
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.15]
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<5/6/2009 8:58:09 PM>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Import("C:\Documents and Settings\Reggie\My Documents\Firefox and Internet Explorer Downloads\AVStoDVD_220Apha090506_NoInstall\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")

Video = A2DVideoSource("C:\Documents and Settings\Reggie\My Documents\Kiss Videos\Project-(1)\twinsac3\TWINS - ( KTV )_New.m2v", CacheFolder = "C:\DOCUME~1\Reggie\LOCALS~1\Temp")
Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
Video = Video.BicubicResize(352,240,0,0.5)

Return Video
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<5/6/2009 8:58:09 PM>
START VIDEO DEMUXING OPERATIONS
Target Video FileSize: 15.8 MB
FFmpeg Parameters: -i "C:\Documents and Settings\Reggie\My Documents\Kiss Videos\Project-(1)\twinsac3\TWINS - ( KTV )_New.m2v" -vcodec copy "C:\Documents and Settings\Reggie\Desktop\Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy_0_Title_01_Twins.m2v"
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<5/6/2009 8:58:10 PM>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: C:\Documents and Settings\Reggie\Desktop\Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy_0_Title_01_Twins.m2v (15.7 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 589 kbps - 352x240 - DAR 1.333 - 29.97 fps - PPF - 3:44 minutes - 6729 frames
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<5/6/2009 8:58:10 PM>
START AUDIO DEMUXING OPERATIONS
FFmpeg Parameters: -i "C:\Documents and Settings\Reggie\My Documents\Kiss Videos\Project-(1)\twinsac3\TWINS - ( KTV )_New.ac3" -acodec copy "C:\Documents and Settings\Reggie\Desktop\Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy_0_Title_01_Twins.ToFix"
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<5/6/2009 8:58:11 PM>
ERROR DURING OPERATIONS ('AUDIO enconding operations' Section): 0 -
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<5/6/2009 8:58:11 PM>
PROCESS ABORTED.
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Some features/small changes I hope to see if possible would be a simple way to adjust video bitrate meaning one value like the audio bitrate is done. Also, on the resolution option show the size and profile-vcd-352-240, etc. Also, in the menu-manual bitrate adjustment, resolution size, custom menu navigation, custom highlight of button color, the ability to place text anywhere, and a way to create a new menu even though you don't have any more videos to place in, chapter menu access, etc. Oh yeah, maybe a full abort button so you don't have to go through all of the encoders and have to quit them all to end the encoding/authoring.

I know this a lot to read, but thanks in advance for how many questions you answer and features you would put in.

Oh yeah, i'm getting this error also.

<5/6/2009 10:53:50 PM>
START PROCESS
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<5/6/2009 10:53:50 PM>
PROJECT SETTINGS

DVD Video Standard: NTSC
DVD Titles number: 2
DVD Size: 292/4435 MB (7%)
DVD Output Setup: DVD Folder
DVD Label: DVD
DVD Menu: Motion Menu
Output Folder: C:\Documents and Settings\Reggie\My Documents\Encoded Media Files\AVSTODVD
Save Log file: Yes
Delete Temp Process Files: Yes
Delete Working Files: Yes
Edit Command Parameters: Yes
Post Process Task: Show Progress Status window

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<5/6/2009 10:53:50 PM>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: C:\Documents and Settings\Reggie\My Documents\My Videos\Music Videos\Chinese\asf files\173_300k.asf
Info: S-Mpeg 4 v3 - 266 kbps - 240x180 - DAR 1.333 - 25 fps - - 3:58 minutes - 5965 frames
Audio: C:\Documents and Settings\Reggie\My Documents\My Videos\Music Videos\Chinese\asf files\173_300k.asf
Info: WMA2 - 20 kbps - - 22050Hz - 1ch - 3:58 minutes
Subs:
[]
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<5/6/2009 10:53:50 PM>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
LoadPlugin("C:\Documents and Settings\Reggie\My Documents\Installation Files For Reggies Desktop Computer\AVStoDVD_220Apha090506_NoInstall\Lib\FFMpegSource.dll")

Video = FFmpegSource("C:\Documents and Settings\Reggie\My Documents\My Videos\Music Videos\Chinese\asf files\173_300k.asf", vtrack = -1, atrack = -2, vcachefile = "C:\DOCUME~1\Reggie\LOCALS~1\Temp\A2DFFV_" + String(Rand()) + ".cache", seekmode = 0)
Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
#Using DGPulldown to upsize FPS
Video = Video.BicubicResize(352,240,0,0.5)

Audio = FFAudioSource("C:\Documents and Settings\Reggie\My Documents\My Videos\Music Videos\Chinese\asf files\173_300k.asf", atrack = -1, acachefile = "C:\DOCUME~1\Reggie\LOCALS~1\Temp\A2DFFA1_" + String(Rand()) + ".cache", acachefile2 = "C:\DOCUME~1\Reggie\LOCALS~1\Temp\A2DFFA2_" + String(Rand()) + ".cache")
Audio = Audio.SSRC(48000)
Audio = Audio.ConvertToMono

AudioDub(Video, Audio)
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<5/6/2009 10:54:06 PM>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: HCenc OPV 1-pass
Target Video FileSize: 142.5 MB
HCenc Parameters: -ini "C:\DOCUME~1\Reggie\LOCALS~1\Temp\DVD_1_Title_01_173_300k.HCenc.ini"
HCenc ini file:
*INFILE C:\DOCUME~1\Reggie\LOCALS~1\Temp\DVD_1_Title_01_173_300k.avs
*AVSRELOAD
*OUTFILE C:\Documents and Settings\Reggie\My Documents\Encoded Media Files\AVSTODVD\DVD_1_Title_01_173_300k.m2v
*LOGFILE C:\DOCUME~1\Reggie\LOCALS~1\Temp\DVD_1_Title_01_173_300k.HCenc.log
*MAXBITRATE 9000
*CQ_MAXBITRATE 1
*BITRATE 5000
*PROFILE BEST
*ASPECT 4:3
*PROGRESSIVE
*BIAS 50
*DC_PREC 9
*MATRIX MPEG
*AQ 1
*LUMGAIN 0
*SMP
*PRIORITY IDLE
*WAIT 2
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<5/6/2009 10:54:12 PM>
PROCESS ABORTED DURING TITLE 1 VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS.

CHECK LOG FILE <C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\REGGIE\MY DOCUMENTS\ENCODED MEDIA FILES\AVSTODVD\DVD_1.LOG> FOR MORE INFO.
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<5/6/2009 10:54:12 PM>
Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.2.0 Alpha build 090506
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MysticE

9th May 2009, 01:21

Hi MrC,

Trying out the new Alpha. What's with the main page icons, The 'X' previews, the '?' adds, the '+' edits, and the 'film reel' removes??????

MrC

9th May 2009, 13:58

It is a *very* alpha release, maybe a little too anticipated. I had time to do very few debug work, but I want to share it with you. I know your patience and your will to help ;)

Hereafter the long new features list (main are in bold).

- Added support to customizable DVD Chapters (new tab in 'Title Edit' section and new functions in Preview Clip section)
- Added support to multiple Audio Tracks input files (many input Audio Tracks -> one output Audio Track)
- Added last 5 recent Projects history in 'File' Menu section
- Added 'Title Edit'/'Refresh Title' option
- Changed 'Settings' section in 'Preferences' section. Warning: now all changes made in 'Preferences' section are NOT reflected in current project settings.
- Added Wave PCM Audio support
- Added 'AC3 Audio Encoder' to 'Preferences'/'Encoding' (Wavi+Aften, FFmpeg+Aften, QuEnc)
- Added 'AUTO' option to 'Preferences'/'AudioVideo'/'Video Resolution'
- Added 'Audio Normalize' option to 'Preferences'/'AudioVideo'
- Removed 'Fix AC3 Errors' from 'Preferences'/'AudioVideo'
- Added 'Keep DVD Compliant Video' option in 'Title Edit'/'Video'
- Added 'Keep DVD Compliant Audio' option in 'Title Edit'/'Audio'
- Added 'Fix AC3 Errors' option to 'Title Edit'/'Audio'
- Moved 'Advanced Settings' tab from 'Preferences' to main AVStoDVD window (added new button/switch in the taskbar)
- Added 'Post Process' options in main window 'Advanced Settings'
- Removed 'DVD Label' from 'Preferences'/'AuthoringBurning'
- Added 'DVD Label' option to main window 'Advanced Settings'
- Removed 'Enable Multithread Encoding' option from 'Preferences'/'Encoding'
- Added 'Enable Multithread Encoding' option to main window 'Advanced Settings'
- Removed 'DVD Menu' tab from 'Preferences' section
- Added 'DVD Menu'/'Wizard' command & new form
- Added 'DVD Menu'/'Reset' command
- Added support to multi pages DVD Menu
- Added support to 4:3 Aspect Ratio DVD Menu
- Added possibility to remove 'Play All' button from DVD Menu
- Improved 'MaxMenuTitles': from 17 to 99 titles
- Added ffdshow Output Mixer settings check. Prompt to change it to 'same as input'.
- Improved log file (added DVD Menu Building info)
- FFmpeg updated to r16596
- MediaInfo updated to 0.7.15
- ImgBurn updated to 2.4.4.0

Any suggestions are welcome as usual.

;)

Bye

MrC

9th May 2009, 14:16

@Milardo

One question is imgburn allowed to be distributed/used in other software

ImgBurn is distributed only in the Installer package. Because of the new features complexity and number, I have decided to distribute only the NoInstall package.

Another question is how do you manually add another menu page?

Using the Menu Wizard, you can select the max titles number per page.

Is it possible to change the bitrate/resolution of the menus

No, it is fixed (6000 kbps for video and 192 kbps for audio).

is there a way to just choose one bitrate for video encoding like the audio encoding?

Yes. Go to 'Title Edit'/'Video'/'Auto Video Setup'/'Auto BitRate Calculation'

Is there a way to access the chapters by way of menu?

Right now it is not possible. Menu supports only titles, not chapters.

Anyways some bugs I found would be I had a mpeg file encoded by Kiss encoder ([url]http://www.videohelp.com/tools/Kiss_DTV_2_DVD) that said I had to type in a duration time.

Well, you should address your complain to Kiss encoder's author, to output mpeg files with all the corrects tags, to be read by MediaInfo library.

Another bug I found was that sometimes when you try to edit the titles a second time I got an error message-runtime error '383' 'Text Property' is read-only

You should be more precise. When does it happen? Have you seen any commonalities? Debugger's job is not easy... ;)

Another bug is when I tried using already dvd-compliant files I got this log where it failed to encode audio.

Thanks for the report. I will check.
[Edit 10/05/2009] Bug found for DVD compliant AC3/MP2 audio retaining. Will fix.

Also, on the resolution option show the size and profile-vcd-352-240

It can be added.

Also, in the menu-manual bitrate adjustment, resolution size, custom menu navigation, custom highlight of button color, the ability to place text anywhere, and a way to create a new menu even though you don't have any more videos to place in, chapter menu access, etc.

Wait, wait, I have only one life to improve AVStoDVD... and I am doing it in my little free time...

maybe a full abort button so you don't have to go through all of the encoders and have to quit them all to end the encoding/authoring.

Not possible: I do not have the full control of third part softwares. Forget it.

The last error could be caused by the AVS Source Filter used: FFMpegSource instead of A2DSource. Retry with A2DSource. And be sure you have a directshow codec to decode your asf file.

@MysticE

Really? It should not happen (of course :) ). Have you unzipped the package over a old AVStoDVD release? If yes, unzip to a fresh folder and retry.

;)

Bye

hlrsnd

9th May 2009, 17:55

New release looks great though I haven't tried it yet. Particularly interested in the 4:3 menu, and multi page menus.

What about HC Encoder 0.24. Not (yet) suitable for AVStoDVD?

Will it ever be possible to use .avs scripts as input files? I assume not, due to the way menus are created, but my source video files are combined and edited using Avisynth scripts, and I have to save those as .avi files to use AVStoDVD. It would be nice to skip that step, but I can live with it.

Thanks for continuing to develop. There are many promising freeware projects with only one developer that die out once the developer moves on.

MysticE

9th May 2009, 22:59

Really? It should not happen (of course ). Have you unzipped the package over a old AVStoDVD release? If yes, unzip to a fresh folder and retry.

Silly me.

A new problem. When converting a PAL VOB to NTSC it seems 'keep compliant audio' has to be unchecked?

Another odd problem. If I don't do all my changes in the correct order, 'Preferences' 1st, then 'View/Edit' or if I come back after a conversion and go to change some settings, when I hit 'View/Edit' I get this, then it crashes:

http://file.walagata.com/w/mysticx/00AVSShot2.jpg

MrC

10th May 2009, 15:15

@hlrsnd

What about HC Encoder 0.24. Not (yet) suitable for AVStoDVD?

Yes, it is. But I prefer not to include it until it is still in a beta release. BTW you can overwrite HCenc.exe (0.23) with 0.24 and everything will work. Of course, 1-pass VBR will be not available.

Will it ever be possible to use .avs scripts as input files?

It will be. The only "difficult" issue is that MediaInfo does not support them, so I have to find another way to analyse a avs file.

@MysticE

When converting a PAL VOB to NTSC it seems 'keep compliant audio' has to be unchecked?

There are some new PAL->NTSC bugs to be fixed. Within one days or two there will be another Alpha. NTSC guys have to wait a little bit.

If I don't do all my changes in the correct order, 'Preferences' 1st, then 'View/Edit' or if I come back after a conversion and go to change some settings, when I hit 'View/Edit' I get this, then it crashes

Please, exactly list all the steps that bring you to the crash. It is very important to understand where is the problem.

;)

Bye

Surf

13th May 2009, 01:04

Hi MrC,

Nice program. Is there any plan to re-write it to be HD/blu-ray import(ing) friendly? For the heck of it I fooled around trying to have your program load a raw m2ts avc file...."you" said, "I dunno know how long the length is, please input it manually". Something like that...I cheated by copying my own ultra-basic avisynth script that I created with AVSP over yours....

2nd, how about providing a "setup-page" for HCenc instead of having me to wait till "you" do your thing...

3rd, allowing me to use my own bmp/jpg for menu-ing?

Sorry for sounding so un-technical for I am just a joe-public.

TIA

ummus

13th May 2009, 18:56

Sir, how to compress the DVD video files?

MrC

13th May 2009, 19:39

@Surf

first of all thanks for the nice words and for using AVStoDVD. Then I think that you have all the solution at your hands.

1. If you are prompted to input the time length of the raw m2ts avc file, that's because MediaInfo does not recognize it. Please input it manually and go ahead.

2. A very simple HCenc setup page is already present: go to 'Title Edit'/'Video', toggle off 'Auto Video Setup' and a HCenc options button will be available. Does that suit your request?

3. You can already: in the DVD Menu Editor form, click on 'Edit Mode' and click on the menu background. In the 'Item Graphic Properties' section you can change the background image.

@ummus

What do you exactly mean by Sir, how to compress the DVD video files? Do you want to compress the DVD folders output by AVStoDVD? If yes, you can use DVDShrink.

;)

Bye

Surf

13th May 2009, 23:19

1. Strange that Mediainfo "cannot" recognize the m2ts within your program for I can do so outside by right clicking the file and it tells me all the blah blah blah.

2. All I like to see is the ability to tell HCenc to use a desired matrix and to go nuts and max out the bitrate for I am attempting to backup with dual-layer size from the HD/Blu-Ray.

3. My bad. I missed it.

New request:

The ability to chop the beginning of the movie...dreamworks, buckenheimer...20th century, warner....blah blah..

MysticE

14th May 2009, 01:14

New request:
The ability to chop the beginning of the movie...dreamworks, buckenheimer...20th century, warner....blah blah..
Try 'Trim' in the AviSynth tab.

MrC

14th May 2009, 22:09

1. Strange that Mediainfo "cannot" recognize the m2ts within your program for I can do so outside by right clicking the file and it tells me all the blah blah blah.

Are you sure that using MediaInfo GUI you can read your m2ts video duration? If yes, could you post here MediaInfo text output? Or, better, could you upload (mediafire.com) a short portion of the m2ts to analyze it?

2. All I like to see is the ability to tell HCenc to use a desired matrix and to go nuts and max out the bitrate for I am attempting to backup with dual-layer size from the HD/Blu-Ray.

Have you found 'HCenc Advanced Options'? In that section you can select your desired matrix. In 'Title Edit'/'Video' you can manually increase video bitrate.

;)

Bye

MrC

15th May 2009, 19:18

New Alpha (http://sourceforge.net/projects/avstodvd)is out.

Change log from previous Alpha:

- Some bugs fixed (included ac3 retaining and PAL->NTSC conversion)
- Added support to AviSynth scripts as input media format
- Added AviSynth function 'A2DInfo.avsi': a AviSynth Media Info function
- Added WxH pixels info in 'Edit Title'/'Video'/'Video Resolution'
- Re-added 'Avs2Avi' (AviSynth script processor)
- Improved errors handling

Take note that this Alpha will erase AVStoDVD registry key without any user warning. So, if you are planning to come back to 2.1.4 and you do not want to loose your preferences, make a backup of HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\AVStoDVD.

;)

Bye

turbojet

15th May 2009, 20:53

Hi, thanks for the new version.

I found a few cosmetic issues:
- help icon at the top only shows about half of the icon with vista
- the only thing that works in help menu is donate

Also I was wondering if there was any plans to add bluray to dvd conversion I've seen this requested a few times and I could use a much easier method of doing it too. If so I see some of the functionality is already there but a few things that I notice are missing and possibile ways to add support are:
- HD audio input, tsmuxer or eac3to can extract AC3/DTS core, aften to encode to compliant AC3 bitrate
- subtitles, tsmuxer can resize bd sup to dvd sup
- chapters, eac3to can extract mkv like files that can be translated into celltimes format

Also it's probably been asked many times before but are there any plans to support CCE encoding?

MysticE

15th May 2009, 22:41

Hi MrC,

Tying the new alpha, my previous problem 'Text Property is Read only' appears fixed.

Tried converting a PAL 4:3LB VOB (music vid) to 16:9 NTSC all went well except for the 'Trim' function (to cut a logo off the end).

It looked right in the Preview but the final conversion, although shorter than the original, 3mn 29s-> 3mn 25s, was not short enough.

DVD Video Standard: NTSC
DVD Titles number: 1
DVD Size: 159/4435 MB (4%)
DVD Output Setup: DVD Folder
DVD Label: DVD_trim test no fade
DVD Menu: No Menu
Output Folder: G:\AVStoDVD
Save Log file: Yes
Delete Temp Process Files: Yes
Delete Working Files: Yes
Edit Command Parameters: No
Post Process Task: Show Progress Status window

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<5/15/2009 3:48:52 PM>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: H:\MOTORHEAD_BONESHAKER\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
Info: MPEG-2 Video - 2898 kbps - 704x576 - DAR 1.333 - 25 fps - TFF - 3:29 minutes - 5236 frames
Audio: H:\MOTORHEAD_BONESHAKER\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
Info: AC3 - 256 kbps - CBR - 48000Hz - 2ch - 3:29 minutes
Subs:
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.15]
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<5/15/2009 3:48:52 PM>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Import("C:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")

Video = A2DVideoSource("H:\MOTORHEAD_BONESHAKER\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB", CacheFolder = "C:\DOCUME~1\Johnny\LOCALS~1\Temp")
Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
#Using DGPulldown to upsize FPS
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,480,0,66,0,-66)

Audio = A2DAudioSource("H:\MOTORHEAD_BONESHAKER\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB", CacheFolder = "C:\DOCUME~1\Johnny\LOCALS~1\Temp")

AudioDub(Video, Audio)
Trim(0,5130)
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<5/15/2009 3:48:52 PM>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: QuEnc CBR 1-pass
Target Video FileSize: 149.1 MB
QuEnc Parameters: -i "C:\DOCUME~1\Johnny\LOCALS~1\Temp\DVD_trim test no fade_0_Title_01.avs" -o "G:\AVStoDVD\DVD_trim test no fade_0_Title_01.m2v" -b 6100 -1 -hq -novbr -scene -trell -aspectratio 16:9 -interlaced -tff -mpeg2mux noaudio -dc 10 -priority 5 -auto -close
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<5/15/2009 3:53:02 PM>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: G:\AVStoDVD\DVD_trim test no fade_0_Title_01.m2v (149.2 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 6200 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 25 fps - TFF - 3:25 minutes - 5131 frames
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<5/15/2009 3:53:10 PM>
END PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown executed on File: G:\AVStoDVD\DVD_trim test no fade_0_Title_01.m2v (149.2 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 6201 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 29.97 fps - PPF - 3:25 minutes - 6150 frames
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<5/15/2009 3:53:10 PM>
START AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Wavi (WAV) Parameters: "C:\DOCUME~1\Johnny\LOCALS~1\Temp\DVD_trim test no fade_0_Title_01.avs" "C:\DOCUME~1\Johnny\LOCALS~1\Temp\DVD_trim test no fade_0_Title_01.wav"
Aften (AC3) Parameters: -b 384 "C:\DOCUME~1\Johnny\LOCALS~1\Temp\DVD_trim test no fade_0_Title_01.wav" "G:\AVStoDVD\DVD_trim test no fade_0_Title_01.ac3"
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<5/15/2009 3:53:17 PM>
END AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: G:\AVStoDVD\DVD_trim test no fade_0_Title_01.ac3 (9.4 MB)
OUTPUT AUDIO INFO: AC3 - 384 kbps - CBR - 48000Hz - 2ch - 3:25 minutes
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<5/15/2009 3:53:18 PM>
START DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
BatchMux Parameters: -arglist "C:\DOCUME~1\Johnny\LOCALS~1\Temp\DVD_trim test no fade_0_BatchMux.ini"
BatchMux ini file:
-d "G:\AVStoDVD\DVD_trim test no fade_0\VIDEO_TS"
-mxp "C:\DOCUME~1\Johnny\LOCALS~1\Temp\DVD_trim test no fade_0_MuxMan.mxp"
-l "C:\DOCUME~1\Johnny\LOCALS~1\Temp\DVD_trim test no fade_0_MuxMan.log"
-muxman "C:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\MuxMan"
-prio LOW
-v "G:\AVStoDVD\DVD_trim test no fade_0_Title_01.m2v"
-vidmode LB
-a1 "G:\AVStoDVD\DVD_trim test no fade_0_Title_01.ac3"
-a1lang en

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<5/15/2009 3:53:22 PM>
END DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
Created Folder: G:\AVStoDVD\DVD_trim test no fade_0 (161.7 MB)
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<5/15/2009 3:53:22 PM>
Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.2.0 Alpha build 090515
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leoliver

16th May 2009, 04:51

Hi Everyone,

When I use AVSTODVD to encode a AVI (XviD) file to a VOB file , the settings are to change the 23.976 fps of the AVI into a frame rate of 29.970 fps for the VOB files.
And when I checked the completed VOB files , with MediaInfo , it says the VOB files do have a 29.970 fps .
But when I playback the DVD movie with Media Player Classic or Nero Showtime , either player will say that FPS playback rate is 23.8 , not 29.970 .
The movie looked great , but I was curious about the discrepancy between what my AVSTODVD log file (and MediaInfo) says the frame rate is , and what the media players say the frame rate is .
Any feedback on this will be appreciated.

turbojet

16th May 2009, 04:58

MysticE

16th May 2009, 06:34

While it's on DVD as 29.97 it really contains 23.976 material and the framerate was never really changed. This is known as pulldown.
Although that sounds correct MediInfo should report it as 29.970 fps.

Here's the info from a source AVI:

Video
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile : Streaming Video@L1
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Muxing mode : Packed bitstream
Codec ID : XVID
Codec ID/Hint : XviD
Duration : 20mn 40s
Bit rate : 1 034 Kbps
Width : 624 pixels
Height : 352 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps

Here it is after conversion:

Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Duration : 6mn 55s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 8 020 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 8 500 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps

Playing the converted file in NeroShowtime will show the frame rate as 23.8. GSpot shows the file as Pics/s 23.976 and Frames/s 29.970 with 3:2.

@leoliver

I don't see any settings anymore for pulldown (there were in the past). It should be automatic.

What does the log say?

<5/16/2009 12:06:53 AM>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: G:\AVStoDVD\DVD_0_Title_01.m2v (421.3 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 8653 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 23.976 fps - PPF - 6:55 minutes - 9960 frames
<>

<5/16/2009 12:07:16 AM>
END PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown executed on File: G:\AVStoDVD\DVD_0_Title_01.m2v (421.3 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 8645 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 29.97 fps - PPF - 6:55 minutes - 12462 frames

MrC

16th May 2009, 14:27

- help icon at the top only shows about half of the icon with vista
- the only thing that works in help menu is donate

Thanks for the cosmetic bugs report! I will fix them. ;)

Also I was wondering if there was any plans to add bluray to dvd conversion I've seen this requested a few times and I could use a much easier method of doing it too. If so I see some of the functionality is already there but a few things that I notice are missing and possibile ways to add support are:
- HD audio input, tsmuxer or eac3to can extract AC3/DTS core, aften to encode to compliant AC3 bitrate
- subtitles, tsmuxer can resize bd sup to dvd sup
- chapters, eac3to can extract mkv like files that can be translated into celltimes format

I really would like to do that. The main barrier is that I do not have a BD reader nor bluray discs... But I believe that some good HD clips could be enough. Could you point me where to download them on the web (yes, I'm a very lazy guy...)?

Also it's probably been asked many times before but are there any plans to support CCE encoding?

CCE 2.5 and 2.6x (thru EclCCE) were supported in the early AVStoDVD releases (till 1.1.3). Then I removed the support because I wanted to use/push only 100% free software

;)

Bye

MrC

16th May 2009, 14:34

Tried converting a PAL 4:3LB VOB (music vid) to 16:9 NTSC all went well except for the 'Trim' function (to cut a logo off the end).

It looked right in the Preview but the final conversion, although shorter than the original, 3mn 29s-> 3mn 25s, was not short enough.

Mmmh, you trimmed @ frame 5130 that is exactly 3m25s (PAL) while full clip has 5236 frames or 3m29s, so I cannot see what AVStoDVD did wrong.

Could you check again? Have you already used the Trim function in AVStoDVD with/without problems?

:)

Bye

turbojet

16th May 2009, 20:32

Thanks for the cosmetic bugs report! I will fix them. ;)

Your welcome.

I really would like to do that. The main barrier is that I do not have a BD reader nor bluray discs... But I believe that some good HD clips could be enough. Could you point me where to download them on the web (yes, I'm a very lazy guy...)?

I uploaded 2 samples here (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?aoz2kn0mmz1) bluray.zip contains a typical bluray with different types of audio, a sub stream and chapters. seamless.zip contains a not so typical seamless branching bluray that has 1 mpls (playlist) that points to many m2ts. The mpls contains the chapter info so I'd imagine you'd need to add support for mpls input and actually MPC-HC gets the longest playlist from the bdmv files somehow so maybe you could add support for BD input in the same way. Both methods should allow for seamless branching BD's. Demuxing all streams with eac3to to an mkv then using mkv input is the best way I can think of handling seamless branched titles currently.

CCE 2.5 and 2.6x (thru EclCCE) were supported in the early AVStoDVD releases (till 1.1.3). Then I removed the support because I wanted to use/push only 100% free software

;)

Bye

Oh ok, do you have any plans of adding functionality for 2.7 and SP2 in the future?

I currently have converted a few BD to DVD but it's fairly long and tedious doing it all manually as you can see but I also only use CCE as I paid $50 for it and figure I may as well use it. Also I do often get noticably better results, albeit mostly small, then I do with free encoders that's not to take anything away from free encoders which also do a really good job.

MysticE: you mean mediainfo should report it as 23.976? I agree as that pulldown could be any framerate at or below 29.97 but it should also mention that it has pulldown to be most accurate. Best place to mention it is on the mediainfo tracker at SF (http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=86862&atid=581184)

Surf

17th May 2009, 02:10

Hi Mr.C,

The new version does not ask for time anymore....does ask for which audio track to use out of sooo many, thanks!

The very first time I used the program, I was prompted about ffdshow and overlay mixer....please clarify for I probably chose a wrong choice. When previewing, the audio went scratchy...

I tried a VC1 m2ts....the preview said something about line 8 of the avisynth. Yet you allow us to choose a2dsource, directshowsource, avisource....It is theDDS that I was successful in making my own manual backup not thru avs2dvd. Maybe prompting the user to inform the prog whether it is a avc or vc1 is a good idea? Maybe not, for Mediainfo should tell you that...

How about adding Spline32resize based on other posts...

TIA

P.S. how about using your preview screen to choose the specific point for chapters instead of just specific time...5min...?

Lol @meself with P.S.

hlrsnd

17th May 2009, 16:43

I tried out the May 15 alpha-beta today. It worked fine on my very complex Avisynth script.

For me, the ability to use Avisynth scripts is huge. No longer do I need to make intermediate .avi files. Thank you so much. For me, AVStoDVD now lives up to its name; you can go directly from .avs files to DVD.

Some time ago, I tried several other (paid) programs which supposedly went directly from .avs to DVD, namely ConvertXtoDVD and TMPGEnc's Authoring Works. They both crashed. I also tried DVD Flick. It was very slow and didn't work right. For me AVStoDVD is better than any of these.

Now, a hopefully easy request. Make Options->Preferences->Save current Preferences as default apply for future projects. I believe that's the intent but for me it doesn't work. For every project, I have to change from PAL to NTSC, Chapter Interval from 5 to 999 minutes, etc., etc.

MrC

18th May 2009, 19:37

I uploaded 2 samples here (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?aoz2kn0mmz1) bluray.zip contains a typical bluray with different types of audio, a sub stream and chapters. seamless.zip contains a not so typical seamless branching bluray that has 1 mpls (playlist) that points to many m2ts. The mpls contains the chapter info so I'd imagine you'd need to add support for mpls input and actually MPC-HC gets the longest playlist from the bdmv files somehow so maybe you could add support for BD input in the same way. Both methods should allow for seamless branching BD's. Demuxing all streams with eac3to to an mkv then using mkv input is the best way I can think of handling seamless branched titles currently.

Thanks! I hope to have them analyzed ASAP.

Oh ok, do you have any plans of adding functionality for 2.7 and SP2 in the future?

Well, I must admit that my ToDo list is long enough to add also new CCE releases support... BTW, AVStoDVD is open source, so any contribution is absolutely welcome!

The very first time I used the program, I was prompted about ffdshow and overlay mixer....please clarify for I probably chose a wrong choice. When previewing, the audio went scratchy...

I think that best ffdshow output mixer setup is 'same as input', because it is the more generic one. The prompt is to change default ffdshow setting in this way. You can accept, skip or tell AVStoDVD to not disturb anymore.

I tried a VC1 m2ts....the preview said something about line 8 of the avisynth. Yet you allow us to choose a2dsource, directshowsource, avisource....It is theDDS that I was successful in making my own manual backup not thru avs2dvd. Maybe prompting the user to inform the prog whether it is a avc or vc1 is a good idea? Maybe not, for Mediainfo should tell you that...

I really cannot understand what is the problem. Start by posting the full AviSynth error message.

How about adding Spline32resize based on other posts...

Yes, I can, but what are really the advantages vs Spline16?

Now, a hopefully easy request. Make Options->Preferences->Save current Preferences as default apply for future projects. I believe that's the intent but for me it doesn't work. For every project, I have to change from PAL to NTSC, Chapter Interval from 5 to 999 minutes, etc., etc.

Do you mean put 'Save current preferences as default' toggled on by default? No, I do prefer the user to be aware that he is making new "standards".
About not working, please check again because it should work (are you sure you have toggle on the option?).

Guys, what about the new multipage menu support? Have you tried it? Any issues/suggestions?

;)

Bye

turbojet

18th May 2009, 21:58

OK thanks, let me know if you need anything else and I'll try to provide it.

I'll take a look at the source code however I must admit that outside of batch and basic bash scripts I haven't had any success with programming except for following tutorials.

Multipage menu support is nice however I don't know about the left and right arrow placements, for some reason I think I might like them on the left and right side of the screen but some overscan might cut them off. This works though and it's probably the most typical spot for them on retail DVD's.

Speaking of menus, while current menus are really nice for multi-clip projects like tv series however when it's a single movie I don't find it very beneficial currently. This could all change though with a scene selection type menu that has instead of a play all button a play button that's default. The captions could read something like 'chapter 10 (1:05:31)' where chapter 10 starts at 1:05:31 into the movie. Would something like this be possible?

Maybe eventually could add a language selection type sub menu that lets you select which audio/subs to use?

hlrsnd

18th May 2009, 22:27

Do you mean put 'Save current preferences as default' toggled on by default? No, I do prefer the user to be aware that he is making new "standards".
About not working, please check again because it should work (are you sure you have toggle on the option?).

Guys, what about the new multipage menu support? Have you tried it? Any issues/suggestions?

;)

Bye
Regarding my comment about "Save current Preferences as default," it doesn't make those current preferences the default for future projects. I would like it to do so.

AVStoDVD is currently set up for PAL. I use NTSC settings. Every time I start a new project, I have to change all settings to NTSC. "Save current Preferences as default" makes no difference for future projects, currently. I would like to make an NTSC project, save its preferences as the default, and have future projects open with those (NTSC in my case) settings.

I think the multipage menus are great. It looked like maybe the bottom parts of some text were cut off when using 6 columns with 2 lines of text. I switched to 5 columns and it looked better.

MysticE

19th May 2009, 09:39

AVStoDVD is currently set up for PAL. I use NTSC settings. Every time I start a new project, I have to change all settings to NTSC. "Save current Preferences as default" makes no difference for future projects, currently. I would like to make an NTSC project, save its preferences as the default, and have future projects open with those (NTSC in my case) settings.
I have not found that to be the case. Mine stays on NTSC, along with the other settings I've changed.

hlrsnd

19th May 2009, 23:47

I have not found that to be the case. Mine stays on NTSC, along with the other settings I've changed.
Interesting. I'm running XP SP3 as a limited user. Could that make a difference? Haven't tried it as administrator.

hlrsnd

20th May 2009, 01:59

Interesting. I'm running XP SP3 as a limited user. Could that make a difference? Haven't tried it as administrator.
To answer my own question, I tried running AVStoDVD as Administrator. I was able to set new Default Preferences, close the program, and reopen it with the same Preferences. That's what I wanted.

Then I ran AVStoDVD as a limited user, as I usually do. The new Preferences were now the default. As before, I could change them temporarily, but when I closed the program and restarted, my changes were gone. All settings were back to what I set as Admin.

So, Feature Request: Allow per-user Preference settings, including non-admin users.

MrC

20th May 2009, 22:07

Speaking of menus, while current menus are really nice for multi-clip projects like tv series however when it's a single movie I don't find it very beneficial currently. This could all change though with a scene selection type menu that has instead of a play all button a play button that's default. The captions could read something like 'chapter 10 (1:05:31)' where chapter 10 starts at 1:05:31 into the movie. Would something like this be possible?

Maybe eventually could add a language selection type sub menu that lets you select which audio/subs to use?

Both of suggestions make sense. A more professional dvd authoring software would have them. We need the help of Sir Didymus (BatchMux author) to expand BatchMux capabilities to support those features. SD, that's your matter ;)

To answer my own question, I tried running AVStoDVD as Administrator. I was able to set new Default Preferences, close the program, and reopen it with the same Preferences. That's what I wanted.

Then I ran AVStoDVD as a limited user, as I usually do. The new Preferences were now the default. As before, I could change them temporarily, but when I closed the program and restarted, my changes were gone. All settings were back to what I set as Admin.

So, Feature Request: Allow per-user Preference settings, including non-admin users.

The issue comes out because AVStoDVD stores its settings in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\AVStoDVD. HKLM is a registry hive denied to guests and limited users account. Instead HKCU is editable by everybody. I should move AVStoDVD settings to the new key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\AVStoDVD.

Question to all AVStoDVD users: are there any problems in moving the registry key from HKLM to HKCU?

:)

Bye

Sir Didymus

21st May 2009, 18:03

Both of suggestions make sense. A more professional dvd authoring software would have them. We need the help of Sir Didymus (BatchMux author) to expand BatchMux capabilities to support those features. SD, that's your matter ;)

Hi MrC! Well, the points raised by turbojet are very valid. I easily see his reasons. However at the current time I don't think it would by so "easy and straight", to add some type of classical chaptering, audio and subs selection menues, especially considering that I would like to have something "integrated" and consistent with the actual structure and style of the menues engine. By sure I will focus further on the request and think about its feasibility...

I agree it would be great!

:-)

MrC

21st May 2009, 20:04

Hi MrC! Well, the points raised by turbojet are very valid. I easily see his reasons. However at the current time I don't think it would by so "easy and straight", to add some type of classical chaptering, audio and subs selection menues, especially considering that I would like to have something "integrated" and consistent with the actual structure and style of the menues engine. By sure I will focus further on the request and think about its feasibility...

I agree it would be great!

:-)

Hi SD, nice to see you here again. Every BatchMux improvements will be highly appreciated. Keep us informed!

;)

Bye

bagheera1

22nd May 2009, 01:43

I have been trying to backup a dvd tv series onto a single disk, 22 files average 24 min. each. using AvstoDVD 2.20alpha
for its menu capabilities. Everything goes fine until menu generation, then the computer freezes. I think I have narrowed it down to the file "Thumb_12_AviSynthT.avs" trim statement that reads trim(0,0). All of the other BMP files are 28k, Thumb_12.bmp is 1.7MB

I can reproduce this every time.

All of the other Thumb avs trim statements are around the 2150 range.

I have tried motion menus, static menus, and adjusting framerates with no success. The file itself plays fine and passes VirtualDubs error checking.

I am unaware of how to restart avstoDvd at menu generation after a crash. So each attempt takes a long time. Is there a way to pick up where you left off?

How does AVStoDVD Pick its frame for the static menu, and can it be tweaked?

Also, I have previously made motion menus (2 files) that play fine on my computer, but stutter on both of my standalone players (I think they dont like the Memorex CD-R). Is there a way to adjust the bitrate of the menus?

One more thing, I have been using Quenc because HcEnc seems to yield random "process aborted" dialogues. Is this common? I havn't tried to diagnose the problem, nor did I do any searches.

Any thoughts on my problem?

MysticE

22nd May 2009, 20:57

@ bagheera1

Although I don't know the answer, you are trying to put almost 9 hours of video on one DVD. The vid quality will have to be pretty bad.

I am unaware of how to restart avstoDvd at menu generation after a crash. So each attempt takes a long time. Is there a way to pick up where you left off?

Try saving the project before you go to menu generation, at least then you can reload it after a crash.

@ MrC

I though in the past when I chose muxed mpeg as output I used to get it saved under the original file name, not some generic 'DVD_2_Title_01.mpg' name.

gizzin

23rd May 2009, 01:17

Although I don't know the answer, you are trying to put almost 9 hours of video on one DVD. The vid quality will have to be pretty bad.

Thats a understatement, It will a blocky mess. If you can even make out what your watching.

bagheera1

23rd May 2009, 13:36

The video quality will be totally fine, not a blocky mess. I have made many disks at this bitrate and they all turned out to be completely watachable, and totally acceptable.

The problem is the weird menu creation behavior on file 12.

By the way, I have saved the project since the 2nd time I had to redo it.

MrC

23rd May 2009, 19:46

Everything goes fine until menu generation, then the computer freezes. I think I have narrowed it down to the file "Thumb_12_AviSynthT.avs" trim statement that reads trim(0,0). All of the other BMP files are 28k, Thumb_12.bmp is 1.7MB

This is the code section to compute thumb frame for static menu:
CLng(Val(.ThumbFramePos) / 100 * Title(jj).TimeTrimmed * Val(Title(jj).InputMediaInfo.VideoFPS))

As you can read, there are 3 variables:
1. ThumbFramePos -> it is defined in the DVD Menu Wizard, 'Option' tab.
2. Title(jj).TimeTrimmed -> the time length (trimmed, if you did) of your input file. If the time (read by MediaInfo) is 0, then the error you reported can happen.
3. Title(jj).InputMediaInfo.VideoFPS -> your input file framerate. If the framerate (read by MediaInfo) is null or 0, then the error you reported can happen.

Please do the troubleshooting by yourself and report back what you find. Maybe I need to add some workarounds to take care of fps/time null readings.

How does AVStoDVD Pick its frame for the static menu, and can it be tweaked?

My previous answer should cover also this question ;)

Is there a way to adjust the bitrate of the menus?

Not right now. Menu bitrate is hardcoded (6000 kbps for video and 192 kbps for audio). But you are not the first guy asking me to customize it, so I will think about it... ;)

One more thing, I have been using Quenc because HcEnc seems to yield random "process aborted" dialogues. Is this common? I havn't tried to diagnose the problem, nor did I do any searches.

When you get any errors, please post the log file. It is the best way to diagnose the problem and (for you) to understand how AVStoDVD works.

;)

Bye

turbojet

28th May 2009, 18:05

Concerning the menu changes I mentioned. Would AVStoDVD having an option to send each chapter as a separate title be a solution to scene selection?
Audio setup menu page would be a whole other matter however.

Also could drag and drop input files in main window be a possible addition?

MrC

30th May 2009, 09:11

Concerning the menu changes I mentioned. Would AVStoDVD having an option to send each chapter as a separate title be a solution to scene selection?

It could be done, but with a lot of code rewriting. I think the most "economic" and linear approach is to wait for BatchMux next release with authoring expanded capability.

Also could drag and drop input files in main window be a possible addition?

Yes, next release will have it. Thanks for the suggestion!

;)

Bye

turbojet

30th May 2009, 15:23

OK thanks.

MrC

6th June 2009, 14:21

A new 2.2.0 Alpha (build 090605) is available to download (https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340&package_id=269494). Here you are the main mods:

- Some bugs fixed
- Added files drag&drop capability to main window
- Added 'Title'/'View Title Info' command
- Added 'Change ffdshow Mixer Output to <same as input>' option to 'Preferences'/'Misc'
- Added support to text-only style DVD Menu
- Added DVD Menu highlights customization
- Added DVD Menu thumbnails shadow customization
- Added DVD Menu video bitrate customization
- MediaInfo updated to 0.7.16

With this Alpha I have added all the new features I planned for 2.2.0 release. Let me know if you find any issues or within days (I'm updating the Help Section.. yawn!) I will convert it into Final.

;)

Bye

dialysis1

6th June 2009, 20:36

I can't seem to download it.
It's okay now.

hlrsnd

6th June 2009, 21:14

Are you going to use the latest HCEncoder with 2.2?

Milardo

6th June 2009, 22:24

I'm not sure how to do this exactly, but if I wanted to just set the video bitrate to just 800 kb/s so I could fit as many videos as I could on a dvd but still maintain good enough quality, how do I do that? I mean there are a lot of windows that pop up when encoding/converting dvds that seem to be configurable so I'm a bit confused. Thanks in advance for any good replies.

Bugs: Can't seem to access the dvd menu option says "run-time error 35600 index out of bounds"

MrC

7th June 2009, 14:37

Are you going to use the latest HCEncoder with 2.2?

Latest 0.24 beta still have some small bugs, thus the answer is no. But, if you want, you can overwrite current (0.23) HCenc.exe file with the new (0.24 beta) one. Everything will work, except for new HCenc features, of course.

I'm not sure how to do this exactly, but if I wanted to just set the video bitrate to just 800 kb/s so I could fit as many videos as I could on a dvd but still maintain good enough quality, how do I do that? I mean there are a lot of windows that pop up when encoding/converting dvds that seem to be configurable so I'm a bit confused. Thanks in advance for any good replies.

Very simple indeed: go to 'Preferences'/'AudioVideo' and set 800 to 'Video Lower Avg BitRate'. Press OK (save settings if you want) and load your ton of videos. ;)

Bugs: Can't seem to access the dvd menu option says "run-time error 35600 index out of bounds"

Please be more specific: when does it happen (Menu Wizard, Menu Editor, ...)? How is your project set up (titles number, output, configuration, ...)? Is the error systematic or random?

Let me know

:)

Bye

Filbert

7th June 2009, 20:53

Please be more specific: when does it happen (Menu Wizard, Menu Editor, ...)? How is your project set up (titles number, output, configuration, ...)? Is the error systematic or random?

I get the same "run-time error 35600 index out of bounds" with default configuration. Just pressing "DVD Menu" (or "Menu Wizard") causes this error (doesn't matter which kind of video or number of titles). Clean "no install", AVStoDVD_220Alpha090515 worked without probs. System is german XP Prof. SP3 + updates...

Greets, Filbert

Milardo

7th June 2009, 23:48

Thanks on how to set the low bitrate. For the error message, yeah just pressing the dvd menu button causes the error I had two videos in the program tried asf and m2v videos but got the same error seems to be systematic error.

MysticE

8th June 2009, 05:20

Same here. Added 3 AVI's and hit 'Menu Wizard', same sort of 'out of bounds error'.

dialysis1

8th June 2009, 11:40

Same here.
Click on ok and the program closes.

MrC

8th June 2009, 20:16

Very weird. From my side, I must admit that I cannot replicate the error. Just a quick troubleshooting:

1. Did you use a new folder for build 090605 or did you overwrite build 090515?
2. Using build 090515, did you change anything from default DVDMenu Wizard settings?
3. Quick & dirt fix: locate and delete registry key "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\AVStoDVD\DVDMenu", then retry with build 090605. If you feel in "help mode on", take a screenshot of registry key before deleting it and post here.

Thanks guys

;)

Bye

Filbert

8th June 2009, 21:25

1. Did you use a new folder for build 090605 or did you overwrite build 090515?
2. Using build 090515, did you change anything from default DVDMenu Wizard settings?
3. Quick & dirt fix: locate and delete registry key "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\AVStoDVD\DVDMenu", then retry with build 090605.

1. new folder
2. no change in 090515
3. hmm, can't find this regkey, nor a similar one.
[edit] okay, after doing a menu with build 090515 i get this regkey, but it makes no difference if it is there or not. 090605 doesn't create this key as it crashes before it can...

Greets, Filbert

MrC

8th June 2009, 22:35

Ok, bug found.

I hope to release another Alpha (last?) tomorrow.

:)

Bye

Filbert

9th June 2009, 18:05

Ok, bug found.
I hope to release another Alpha (last?) tomorrow.

Thanx, dvd menue in build 090609 seems to work again :-)

Though I get some error during audio operations, will do tests and post log...

Greets, Filbert

MrC

9th June 2009, 19:21

Here we go, a new 2.2.0 Alpha (build 090609) is out (https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340&package_id=269494). Small change log:

- DVD Menu Wizard form opening bug fixed
- Improved DVD Menu highlights links generation routine
- Updated Help Section

;)

Bye

Filbert

9th June 2009, 20:25

MrC

9th June 2009, 21:29

This seems to affect all alpha builds since final 2.1.4 (that build doesn't produce the error), see attached logfile.

The videofile is a DV Quicktime Movie (exported from Avid Xpress Pro). When loading into AVStoDVD i get asked to choose an audio track because AVS detected 2 Audio Tracks (although I know there is only one 2ch audio track). With 2.1.4. i didn't got this question (it showed/used only one track).
If I check the file with Mediainfo it also only shows one track:

Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Codec ID : twos
Duration : 19s 240ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
Stream size : 3.52 MiB (5%)
Encoded date : UTC 2007-10-16 14:38:28
Tagged date : UTC 2007-10-16 14:38:36

When I start encoding it aborts the audio encoding (no matter if I encode to AC3 or leave it as original WAV (which should be DVD compliant). The "testrun.ToFix.wav" has the length 0, so demuxing seems to go wrong.
If I convert the same file using an AVI container it works...

Greets, Filbert

Filbert, while waiting for attachment approval, let me do 2 preliminary considerations:

1. If AVStoDVD says that there are 2 audio tracks, the reason is that MediaInfo.dll detects 2 audio tracks (code: .AudioTracksCount = bstr(MediaInfo_Get(Handle, MediaInfo_Stream_General, 0, StrPtr("AudioCount"), MediaInfo_Info_Text, MediaInfo_Info_Name))). Anyway, if you select track 0, then audio track handling is same as release 2.1.4. Only if you select track >0, then I force the use of ffmpegsource.dll plugin to extract the track. Thus, do not bother about this issue.

2. You are saying that no matter you select audio re-encode or keep original, you get errors. It could be, but they must be 2 different errors, because the routines are very different (i.e. audio re-encoding does not produce the intermediate file "testrun.ToFix.wav"). Please clarify and/or attach the 2 log files.

BTW, thanks for the debug and the feedback. A proactive help is always very appreciated.

;)

Bye

Filbert

10th June 2009, 08:35

Anyway, if you select track 0, then audio track handling is same as release 2.1.4. Only if you select track >0, then I force the use of ffmpegsource.dll plugin to extract the track. Thus, do not bother about this issue.

BTW, if I really do select track 1 I get an avysynth error:
---------------------------
AviSynth Error!
---------------------------
Avisynth open failure:
FFmpegSource: Invalid audio track number
(C:\DOKUME~1\schnitt\LOKALE~1\Temp\testrun.avs, line 9)
---------------------------

2. You are saying that no matter you select audio re-encode or keep original, you get errors. It could be, but they must be 2 different errors, because the routines are very different (i.e. audio re-encoding does not produce the intermediate file "testrun.ToFix.wav"). Please clarify and/or attach the 2 log files.

As far as I see the two logs are the same (using Winmerge), they only differ in time. Both settings (DVD Audio Wav, keep DVD compliant Audio checked/not checked) produce the "testrun.ToFix.wav". The interesting part of the log is the same as the previous attached complete log file:

<10.06.2009 08:47:43>
START AUDIO DEMUXING OPERATIONS
FFmpeg Parameters: -i "D:\testrun.mov" -acodec copy "C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\schnitt\Eigene Dateien\testrun.ToFix.wav"
<>
<10.06.2009 08:47:43>
ERROR DURING OPERATIONS ('AUDIO enconding operations' Section): 0 -
<>
<10.06.2009 08:47:43>
PROCESS ABORTED.
<>

Hope this helps, otherwise I can do some more testing or upload a testfile...

Greets, Filbert

MrC

10th June 2009, 20:19

@Filbert

things are becoming very interesting. Yes, please, upload the file or a portion of it.

:thanks:

Bye

Filbert

10th June 2009, 21:46

Uploaded it, see PM. It's a different file with same error. It was converted from (working) AVI container to Quicktime Movie using AppleDV Codec. Only difference is that it doesn't show up the 2 audio tracks when loading the file (which might be caused by exporting empty audio tracks from the timeline in Avid).

Hope it helps... Greets, Filbert

vinib

12th June 2009, 09:06

Hello,

I'm converting mkv to DVD (for a friend that does not matter too much about image quality).

AVStoDVD works fine, got once a crash, but now it's working. However, there seems to be a slight defect: when I watch the end product (the DVD), every few frames, it looks like the image is jumping/vibrating. When it's a quite scene during the movie, you can see like the movie was vibrating, like if it was getting a light electric shock...sorry, I don't really know how to describe it.
How can I check frame per frame? how to troubleshoot? Also, I don't know where is the issue (if any)? I mean, don't know if it's due to AVStoDVD...

With another movie, even if an .ac3 file is created, the final product (DVD) does not have sound.
here is the log:
<6/12/2009 8:03:06 AM>
START PROCESS
<>

<6/12/2009 8:03:06 AM>
DVD SETTINGS
DVD Titles number: 1
DVD Video Standard: PAL
DVD Chapters Interval: 5 min
DVD Menu: Static DVD Menu
DVD Size: 4435/4435 MB (100%)
DVD Output Setup: DVD Folder

Delete Temp Process Files: Yes
Delete Working Files: Yes
Edit Command Parameters: No
Save Log file: Yes
Output Folder: C:\Documents and Settings\vini\My Documents
<>

<6/12/2009 8:03:06 AM>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: F:\inf-milk.mkv
Info: AVC - 5455 kbps - 1280x688 - DAR 1.86 - 23.976 fps - PPF - 2:08:11 hours - 184584 frames
Audio: F:\inf-milk.mkv
Info: DTS - 1536 kbps - CBR - 48000Hz - 6ch - 2:08:18 hours
Subs:
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.10]
<>

<6/12/2009 8:03:06 AM>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Import("C:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")

Video = A2DVideoSource("F:\inf-milk.mkv", CacheFolder = "C:\DOCUME~1\vini\LOCALS~1\Temp")
Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
#Using DGPulldown to upsize FPS
Video = Video.AddBorders(0,16,0,16)
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,576)

Return Video
<>

<6/12/2009 8:03:06 AM>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: HCenc VBR 2-pass
Target Video FileSize: 2909.1 MB
HCenc Parameters: -ini "C:\DOCUME~1\vini\LOCALS~1\Temp\MILK_2_Title_01.HCenc.ini"
HCenc ini file:
*INFILE C:\DOCUME~1\vini\LOCALS~1\Temp\MILK_2_Title_01.avs
*AVSRELOAD
*OUTFILE C:\Documents and Settings\vini\My Documents\MILK_2_Title_01.m2v
*LOGFILE C:\DOCUME~1\vini\LOCALS~1\Temp\MILK_2_Title_01.HCenc.log
*MAXBITRATE 9000
*BITRATE 3173
*PROFILE BEST
*ASPECT 16:9
*PROGRESSIVE
*BIAS 30
*DC_PREC 8
*MATRIX MPEG
*AQ 1
*LUMGAIN 0
*SMP
*PRIORITY IDLE
*WAIT 2
<>

<6/12/2009 11:19:12 AM>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: C:\Documents and Settings\vini\My Documents\MILK_2_Title_01.m2v (2913.3 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 3227 kbps - 720x576 - DAR 1.778 - 23.976 fps - PPF - 2:08:10 hours - 184396 frames
<>

<6/12/2009 11:24:52 AM>
END PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown executed on File: C:\Documents and Settings\vini\My Documents\MILK_2_Title_01.m2v (2913.3 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 3224 kbps - 720x576 - DAR 1.778 - 25 fps - PPF - 2:08:18 hours - 192464 frames
<>

<6/12/2009 11:24:52 AM>
START AUDIO DEMUXING OPERATIONS
FFmpeg Parameters: -i "F:\inf-milk.mkv" -acodec copy "C:\Documents and Settings\vini\My Documents\MILK_2_Title_01.ToFix.ac3"
<>

<6/12/2009 11:27:39 AM>
END AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: C:\Documents and Settings\vini\My Documents\MILK_2_Title_01.ac3 (1384.9 MB)
OUTPUT AUDIO INFO: DTS - 1536 kbps - CBR - 48000Hz - 6ch - 0 seconds
<>

<6/12/2009 11:27:46 AM>
START DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
BatchMux Parameters: -arglist "C:\DOCUME~1\vini\LOCALS~1\Temp\MILK_2_BatchMux.ini"
BatchMux ini file:
-d "C:\Documents and Settings\vini\My Documents\MILK_2\VIDEO_TS"
-mxp "C:\DOCUME~1\vini\LOCALS~1\Temp\MILK_2_MuxMan.mxp"
-l "C:\DOCUME~1\vini\LOCALS~1\Temp\MILK_2_MuxMan.log"
-muxman "C:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\MuxMan"
-prio LOW
-v "C:\Documents and Settings\vini\My Documents\MILK_2_Title_01.m2v"
-vidmode LB
-a1 "C:\Documents and Settings\vini\My Documents\MILK_2_Title_01.ac3"
-a1lang en
-cellfr "C:\DOCUME~1\vini\LOCALS~1\Temp\MILK_2_Title_01_MuxMan.txt"
-progfr "C:\DOCUME~1\vini\LOCALS~1\Temp\MILK_2_Title_01_MuxMan.txt"
-chapfr "C:\DOCUME~1\vini\LOCALS~1\Temp\MILK_2_Title_01_MuxMan.txt"
-SEG2v "C:\DOCUME~1\vini\LOCALS~1\Temp\MILK_2_Menu.bmp"
-SEG2vidmode LB
-SEG2s1 "C:\DOCUME~1\vini\LOCALS~1\Temp\MILK_2_Menu.sst"
-SEG2s1dmode WIDE_LB
-SEG2hlmnu "C:\DOCUME~1\vini\LOCALS~1\Temp\MILK_2_Buttons.mnu"
-SEG2hlcsm "C:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\Menu\Highlight_Scheme.csm"
-hcn "C:\DOCUME~1\vini\LOCALS~1\Temp\MILK_2_BatchMux.hcn"
<>

<6/12/2009 11:32:48 AM>
END DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
Created Folder: C:\Documents and Settings\vini\My Documents\MILK_2 (2992.2 MB)
<>

<6/12/2009 11:32:49 AM>
Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.1.4
<>

many thanks
vini

MrC

12th June 2009, 20:55

@Filbert

I took a look to the mov file you sent me and I must admit that is really a challenge: ffmpeg (used by AVStoDVD to demux audio) fails to extract the wav audio track it contains, see error log herebelow:

FFmpeg version SVN-r16596-Sherpya, Copyright (c) 2000-2009 Fabrice Bellard,
et a
l.
libavutil 49.12. 0 / 49.12. 0
libavcodec 52.10. 0 / 52.10. 0
libavformat 52.23. 1 / 52.23. 1
libavdevice 52. 1. 0 / 52. 1. 0
libavfilter 0. 2. 0 / 0. 2. 0
libswscale 0. 6. 1 / 0. 6. 1
libpostproc 51. 2. 0 / 51. 2. 0
built on Jan 14 2009 07:24:48, gcc: 4.2.5 20080919 (prerelease) [Sherpya]
[mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2 @ 0179A470]sample aspect ratio already set,
overriding
by 'pasp' atom
Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'D:\Personal\Movies
\Bluescreen.cut.mov':

Duration: 00:00:05.36, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 30338 kb/s
Stream #0.0(eng): Video: dvvideo, yuv420p, 720x576, 25.00 tb(r)
Stream #0.1(eng): Audio: pcm_s16be, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 1536 kb/s
Output #0, wav, to 'D:\Personal\Movies\DVD\DVD_5_Bluescreen.cut.ToFix.wav':
Stream #0.0(eng): Audio: pcm_s16be, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 1536 kb/s
Stream mapping:
Stream #0.1 -> #0.0
[wav @ 01890050]NONE codec not supported in WAVE format
Could not write header for output file #0 (incorrect codec parameters ?)

When trying to re-encode audio, directshowsource cannot render the file, while ffmpegsource can but it crashes after few seconds....

The only (thru command line) way to demux the wav track I found is mencoder, but, really, I do not think to add mencoder (10 MB) to AVStoDVD package just to handle this kind of "problematic" mov files.

Any alternative hint is well accepted.

:)

Bye

Filbert

13th June 2009, 12:18

The only (thru command line) way to demux the wav track I found is mencoder, but, really, I do not think to add mencoder (10 MB) to AVStoDVD package just to handle this kind of "problematic" mov files.

Any alternative hint is well accepted.

No, you don't have to add mencoder ;-). The file itself shouldn't be "problematic" as I think it is standard conform (both Quicktime and Avid are also used in professional environment). Okay, then that doesn't mean anything otherwise... ;-)

As written in a previous post it worked until 2.1.4, so audio handling seems to have changed in the new alphas.

2.1.4.:
START AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Wavi (WAV) Parameters: "C:\DOKUME~1\User\LOKALE~1\Temp\Bluescreen.cut_0_Title_01.avs" "C:\DOKUME~1\User\LOKALE~1\Temp\Bluescreen.cut_0_Title_01.wav"
Aften (AC3) Parameters: -b 192 "C:\DOKUME~1\User\LOKALE~1\Temp\Bluescreen.cut_0_Title_01.wav" "C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\User\Eigene Dateien\Bluescreen.cut_0_Title_01.ac3"
<>
<13.06.2009 13:00:35>
END AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS

Alphas:
START AUDIO DEMUXING OPERATIONS
FFmpeg Parameters: -i "H:\Test-Videos\[Source]\Bluescreen.cut.mov" -acodec copy "C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\User\Eigene Dateien\Bluescreen.cut.ToFix.wav"
<>
<13.06.2009 13:02:42>
PROCESS ABORTED DURING TITLE 1 AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS.

Can't you use the method of 2.1.4. for DV-Quicktime Movie if it is detected?

Thanx for your all your effort... :thanks:

Greets, Filbert

MrC

13th June 2009, 13:31

Filbert,

you cannot compare 2.2.0 Alpha, which retains (or tries to retain ;) ) WAV audio, with 2.1.4, which re-encode them to AC3.

If you want to have a fair contest you must setup 2.2.0 Alpha to force audio re-encoding to AC3. Just go to 'Preferences'/'AudioVideo' and toggle off 'Keep DVD Compliant Audio'. Then load your mov.

I did try to process your file with audio re-encoding to AC3: using DirectShowSource, AviSynth says "Render file, the filter graph manager won't talk to me" (do I miss a QuickTime directshow codec maybe?), while ffmpegsource does not complain but crashes anyway. Result is a AC3 file of few bytes that MuxMan accepts but the real result is a DVD with no audio. Same for 2.1.4 and 2.2.0 Alpha (they have same AVS script building and AC3 encoding routine). Is that your situation as well?

;)

Bye

Filbert

13th June 2009, 14:01

Both were compared with the same settings (Audio format AC3, keep DVD compliant audio). So with these options set I thought AVStoDVD will convert WAV to AC3, regardless wether it is DVD compliant WAV or not. So does the "Keep DVD compliant audio" option overide the "DVD Audio format" if it is compliant?
I don't get the other errors you get, so we probably have a different codec setup.

As I'm on the jump I will take a deeper look into it tomorrow or monday.

Greets & nice weekend, Filbert

Guest

13th June 2009, 17:43

I'm converting mkv to DVD (for a friend that does not matter too much about image quality). Where did you or your friend get these MKV movies?

vinib

13th June 2009, 17:59

Where did you or your friend get these MKV movies? don't know...why?

Guest

13th June 2009, 19:09

don't know...why? That means you are in violation of our forum rule 6.

Daemon404

13th June 2009, 22:12

That means you are in violation of our forum rule 6.

So the guidelines here are "everyone is assumed to be a pirate unless proven otherwise (and even then, theyre probably a pirate)"?

Also, i find it very hypocritical that yo allow tons and tons of threads about circumventing copy protection, but not even "hey i have an mkv i want to convert". The latter is clearly more serious, right?

Nick

14th June 2009, 11:12

So the guidelines here are "everyone is assumed to be a pirate unless proven otherwise (and even then, theyre probably a pirate)"?

No, the guidelines are to assume innocence unless the poster gives grounds for suspicion. These may include talking of having downloaded a movie or, in this case, a very scene-release looking filename in a logfile. When in doubt about source material, moderators will request clarification.

Also, i find it very hypocritical that yo allow tons and tons of threads about circumventing copy protection, but not even "hey i have an mkv i want to convert". The latter is clearly more serious, right?

You don't have to like our rules but when you signed up you agreed to abide by them. They are not up for discussion, especially as an off-topic branch in an otherwise productive thread. So please leave it at that.

toology

15th June 2009, 10:31

Mr C, do you have any recommendation how to convert a 23.976 NTSC Progressive source to dvd without some sceenes getting choppy? PAL act's like it dropped frames, while ntsc encoding gave me an error.

MrC

15th June 2009, 19:15

So does the "Keep DVD compliant audio" option overide the "DVD Audio format" if it is compliant?
I don't get the other errors you get, so we probably have a different codec setup.

Yes, 'Keep DVD compliant audio' has the priority.

About Quicktime codec, what package are you using? I am using QT Alternative, but it seems not to be very "friendly" to directshowsource.

Mr C, do you have any recommendation how to convert a 23.976 NTSC Progressive source to dvd without some sceenes getting choppy? PAL act's like it dropped frames, while ntsc encoding gave me an error.

Pulldown from 23.976 to 25 should be the best choice. It is the standard AVStoDVD way. BTW you can try to go thru ChangeFPS(25) approach (usually it gives a sligthly jerky video):
1. Edit AviSynth script
2. Remove '#Using DGPulldown to upsize FPS' line
3. Put 'Video = Video.ChangeFPS(25)' instead.

Let me know

;)

MrC

16th June 2009, 19:20

New Alpha is available to download (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340&package_id=269494). Change log (from previous Alpha):

- Improved DTS audio track support
- Added a progress bar window to monitor MuxMan authoring process
- Added 'Haali Media Splitter' in AVStoDVD Installer package

;)

Bye

Filbert

16th June 2009, 21:23

About Quicktime codec, what package are you using? I am using QT Alternative, but it seems not to be very "friendly" to directshowsource.

I use QT Alternative too, and after some less hectically tests I get the same errors when using DirectShowSource.
Concerning the not working demuxing, maybe a fake demux could be used as DV-Audio is always in WAV format (at least it worked without error):
ffmpeg.exe -i "Bluescreen.cut.mov" -vn "DVD_0_Bluescreen.cut.ToFix.wav"
That way I got a working WAV File out of the testfile.

Greets, Filbert

PS. Thanx for new alpha :-)

MrC

17th June 2009, 20:16

Concerning the not working demuxing, maybe a fake demux could be used as DV-Audio is always in WAV format (at least it worked without error):
ffmpeg.exe -i "Bluescreen.cut.mov" -vn "DVD_0_Bluescreen.cut.ToFix.wav"

Very good idea, Filbert. To be generalized: every time there is a audio encoding/demuxing failure, a sort of simple "backup" routine (with ffmpeg) can be activated.

:goodpost:

Bye

Milardo

18th June 2009, 13:51

Hi, just tested the latest alpha, couldn't find any noticeable bugs or really any at all I think. I tried it fitting 26 videos on dvd. Worked out pretty much fine. What could be great would be more options on the menus. Here are some suggestions.

1. Customizable highlight color for thumbnails and the same when you click on the thumbnail.

2. Chapter menus

3. Be able to put text anywhere on the menu.

4. Be able to use the buttons that you created in the button generator.

5. Change the outline of the thumbnails, meaning the border.

6. Manually change the size of the thumbnail by dragging with mouse.

7. Custom title for each page/custom background picture for each page/ custom background video/music meaning be able to use different titles and different background pictures and different video/music for each page yeah.

Hope you can implement in next version that would be great thanks in advance.

MrC

20th June 2009, 21:36

@Milardo

hey mate, you are giving me works till my retirement! ;)

1. Quite easy. Will add.
2. As I stated before, I will wait for next BatchMux release, which should support that feature.
3. I do not see a big added value, but, ok, I will add.
4. ?
5. Do you mean "frame" highlights? It is in my ToDo list since a while. Not so easy. As highlights image mask MuxMan accepts only max 8 bit bmp. For simple highlights (like a rectangle or a line) the solution is straight: 2 static bmp files (one for PAL and one for NTSC resolutions). For complex/dynamic highlights, bmp should be created at runtime, so I need a command line sw that have the capability to produce 8 bit bmp. I have not found a convenient solution yet. Any input is very appreciated.
6. See point 3
7. You love flexibility, don't you? Ok I will add a load of vector variables to DVD Menu Editor... AVStoDVD will become a RAM devourer... (jokin')

Maybe you will not see everything in the next release, but stay tuned.

;)

Bye

MysticE

22nd June 2009, 00:01

Being quite lazy I'd like to see drag/drop refined so I can simply drop the file onto the desktop icon.

Milardo

22nd June 2009, 21:56

Just trying to make AVStoDVD the best freeware dvd authoring/making solution.:)

Glad you can implement those features thanks in advance.

I used the button generator feature in the dvd menu making part of AVStoDVD but was unable to actually implement them in the menus themselves, couldn't find where they went and how to make them function.

Oh yeah, i meant the borders/frames of the selectable motion/still buttons(where you click in the menu to watch a video), right now it is defaulted to a film style frame. I would like to use different ones like no border or ones that are colored, ones that have different decorations I hope this is clear enough if not I will post a picture.

MrC

26th June 2009, 20:24

AVStoDVD 2.2.0 Final is (finally) out (https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197340&package_id=233646).

Summary of changes from previous stable release (2.1.4), in bold the changes from previous Alpha:

- Some bugs fixed
- Several minor GUI improvements
- Changed 'Settings' section in 'Preferences' section. Warning: now all changes made in 'Preferences' section are NOT reflected in current project settings.
- Added support to input files drag & drop onto AVStoDVD executable (improved CL handling)
- Added files drag&drop capability to main window
- Added support to customizable DVD Chapters (new tab in 'Title Edit' section and new functions in Preview Clip section)
- Added one Audio Track selection from multiple Audio Tracks input files
- Added last 5 recent Projects history in 'File' Menu section
- Added a progress bar window to monitor MuxMan authoring process
- Added a backup Audio encoding routine (ffmpeg based) if main routine fails. Thanks to Filbert @forum.doom9.org
- Added support to AviSynth scripts as input media format
- Added AviSynth function 'A2DInfo.avsi': a AviSynth Media Info function
- Added 'AC3 Audio Encoder' to 'Preferences'/'Encoding' (Wavi+Aften, FFmpeg+Aften, QuEnc)
- Added 'AUTO' option to 'Preferences'/'AudioVideo'/'Video Resolution'
- Added 'Audio Normalize' option to 'Preferences'/'AudioVideo'
- Removed 'Fix AC3 Errors' from 'Preferences'/'AudioVideo'
- Added 'Change ffdshow Mixer Output to <same as input>' option to 'Preferences'/'Misc'
- Added 'Title Edit'/'Refresh Title' option
- Added 'Title'/'View Title Info' command
- Added Wave PCM Audio support
- Improved DTS audio track support
- Added 'Keep DVD Compliant Video' option in 'Title Edit'/'Video'
- Added WxH pixels info to 'Title Edit'/'Video'/'Video Resolution'
- Added 'Keep DVD Compliant Audio' option in 'Title Edit'/'Audio'
- Added 'Fix AC3 Errors' option to 'Title Edit'/'Audio'
- Moved 'Advanced Settings' tab from 'Preferences' to main AVStoDVD window (added new button/switch in the taskbar)
- Added 'Post Process' options in main window 'Advanced Settings'
- Removed 'DVD Label' from 'Preferences'/'AuthoringBurning'
- Added 'DVD Label' option to main window 'Advanced Settings'
- Removed 'Enable Multithread Encoding' option from 'Preferences'/'Encoding'
- Added 'Enable Multithread Encoding' option to main window 'Advanced Settings'
- Removed 'DVD Menu' tab from 'Preferences' section
- Added 'DVD Menu'/'Wizard' command & new form
- Added 'DVD Menu'/'Reset' command
- Added support to multi pages DVD Menu
- Added support to 4:3 Aspect Ratio DVD Menu
- Added support to text-only style DVD Menu
- Added possibility to remove 'Play All' button from DVD Menu
- Added DVD Menu highlights customization
- Added DVD Menu thumbnails shadow customization
- Added DVD Menu video bitrate customization
- Improved DVD Menu highlights links generation routine
- Improved 'MaxMenuTitles': from 17 to 99 titles
- Improved log file (added DVD Menu Building info)
- Improved errors handling
- Updated Help Section
- Re-added 'Avs2Avi' (AviSynth script processor)
- Added 'Haali Media Splitter' in AVStoDVD Installer package
- FFmpeg updated to r16596
- MediaInfo updated to 0.7.16
- ImgBurn updated to 2.4.4.0

Have nice conversions!

;)

Bye

hlrsnd

26th June 2009, 22:16

Wow, looks great. Thanks. I'll check it out later.

Now using Windows 7 RC. I'll let you know if that causes any problems.

manolito

26th June 2009, 22:22

Thanks for the new version!

One thing I noticed on my 1024x768 display: The menu editor has a hard coded resolution which makes it unusuable on my display. It simply is too large vertically, I cannot access the buttons at the bottom of the editor window.

Cheers
manolito

27th June 2009, 22:18

Thanks for the new one, keeps getting better & better.

Cheers!!

MrC

28th June 2009, 20:39

Thanks guys for the kind words! ;)

Now using Windows 7 RC. I'll let you know if that causes any problems.

Thanks, it would be a very useful feedback.

One thing I noticed on my 1024x768 display: The menu editor has a hard coded resolution which makes it unusuable on my display. It simply is too large vertically, I cannot access the buttons at the bottom of the editor window.

You mean using the 4:3 DAR Menu, don't you? Yeah, I know it. I have the same problem, my display is 1280x768, but I usually make 16:9 menus... ok ok it is not a valid workaround... What do you think having the possibility to slide the icons group from bottom to right window side?

;)

Bye

P.S. I have released the 2.2.0 2 days ago and I have already found a bug: when encoding 5.1 AAC tracks to 5.1 AC3 tracks, channels mapping is wrong. Correct mapping should be 2-1-3-4-6-5. Shame on me.

hlrsnd

28th June 2009, 21:20

I haven't had time to really use 2.2.0 yet but I made a sample 3 minute DVD using an Avisynth script as an input, running Windows 7 RC 32 bit, and everything worked fine. Thanks.

It appears the default AVStoDVD script always includes a line to resize the video to 720x480 even when the video is already that size. Any point in checking the video size and not including that line if it's already ok? Will trying to resize something already that size make any difference in speed or quality? Just wondering.

MysticE

29th June 2009, 00:47

P.S. I have released the 2.2.0 2 days ago and I have already found a bug: when encoding 5.1 AAC tracks to 5.1 AC3 tracks, channels mapping is wrong. Correct mapping should be 2-1-3-4-6-5. Shame on me.
I've had similar problems, I'd assumed it was my system. I've taken to converting the audio first with Xvid4PSP (Aften based).

MrC

29th June 2009, 20:36

I've had similar problems, I'd assumed it was my system. I've taken to converting the audio first with Xvid4PSP (Aften based).

I will fix it with 2.2.1. Right now you can edit the AVS script and adjust manually the GetChannel function.

What about the file(s) drag&drop onto AVStoDVD executable?

;)

Bye

MrC

29th June 2009, 20:39

It appears the default AVStoDVD script always includes a line to resize the video to 720x480 even when the video is already that size. Any point in checking the video size and not including that line if it's already ok? Will trying to resize something already that size make any difference in speed or quality? Just wondering.

I do not think that there is any speed or quality difference. But some AviSynth guru can better clarify.

BTW I agree that it is reduntant: a product of my laziness in optimizing the code. :rolleyes:

;)

Bye

MysticE

29th June 2009, 22:57

I will fix it with 2.2.1. Right now you can edit the AVS script and adjust manually the GetChannel function.

What about the file(s) drag&drop onto AVStoDVD executable?

;)

Bye
Very nice, I can now drop the file right on the Desktop icon.

Filbert

30th June 2009, 10:03

AVStoDVD 2.2.0 Final is (finally)
- Added a backup Audio encoding routine (ffmpeg based) if main routine fails. Thanks to Filbert @forum.doom9.org

Thanx for new version. There is still an error in the audio backup routine:
<30.06.2009 10:17:50>
Problems encountered during Title 1 AUDIO encoding operations.
START (BACKUP) AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
FFmpeg Parameters: -i "F:\WORK\Test-Videos\[Source]\testrun.mov" -y -vn -ar 48000 -ab 1536k C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\user\Eigene Dateien\DVD_4_testrun.wav"
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<30.06.2009 10:17:54>
PROCESS ABORTED DURING TITLE 1 AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS.
I think the quote sign is missing at the beginning of the destination path, as the routine itself seems to work.

Greets, Filbert

MrC

30th June 2009, 22:15

There is still an error in the audio backup routine

:o

Looks like that 2.2.1 is pressing...

Workaround: use a Output Folder without *space* chars.

;)

Bye

MysticE

1st July 2009, 11:55

Seems I got a problem with latest build. It's not reading the runtime right.

Note the runtime disparity. I tried it with 3 different files. The auto bitrate (QUenc) was set to AVG: 7930, MAX: 9000. Wrong for 1:27 minutes. I let it run it completed, and I ended up with a 2.09GB DVD. What it did was create an oversized file that was then transcoded to an undersized one. It showed the correct runtime and played, but note the details of one VOB.

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Duration : 49mn 20s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 2316 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 7945 Kbps

Went back to the previous Alpha and everything was correct. AVE: 6533, MAX 9000. The resulting DVD now came in at 4.32GB.

Here's the bad log:

<6/30/2009 6:22:57 PM>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: C:\Doed.avi
Info: XviD - 968 kbps - 624x336 - DAR 1.857 - 25 fps - Progressive - 1:27:42 hours - 131551 frames
Audio: C:\Doed.avi
Info: MPEG-1 Audio layer 3 - 134 kbps - VBR - 48000Hz - 2ch - 1:27:42 hours
Subs: C:\Doed.srt
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.16]
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<6/30/2009 6:22:57 PM>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Import("C:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")

Video = A2DVideoSource("C:\Doed.avi", CacheFolder = "C:\DOCUME~1\Johnny\LOCALS~1\Temp")
Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
#Using DGPulldown to upsize FPS
Video = Video.AddBorders(0,7,0,7)
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,480)

Audio = A2DAudioSource("C:\Doed.avi", CacheFolder = "C:\DOCUME~1\Johnny\LOCALS~1\Temp")
Audio = Audio.EnsureVBRMP3Sync()

AudioDub(Video, Audio)
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<6/30/2009 6:22:57 PM>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: QuEnc CBR 1-pass
Target Video FileSize: 4149.1 MB
QuEnc Parameters: -i "C:\DOCUME~1\Johnny\LOCALS~1\Temp\Doed_latest_0_Doed.avs" -o "G:\AVStoDVD\Doed_latest_0_Doed.m2v" -b 7930 -1 -hq -novbr -scene -trell -aspectratio 16:9 -nointerlaced -mpeg2mux noaudio -dc 10 -priority 5 -auto -close
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<6/30/2009 7:04:38 PM>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: G:\AVStoDVD\Doed_latest_0_Doed.m2v (4974.3 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 8065 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 25 fps - Progressive - 1:27:42 hours - 131551 frames
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<6/30/2009 7:04:38 PM>
START TRANSCODING OPERATIONS
ReJig Parameters: -size 4149 -o "G:\AVStoDVD\Doed_latest_0_Doed.ReJig.m2v" -i "G:\AVStoDVD\Doed_latest_0_Doed.m2v" -auto -close -quiet
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<6/30/2009 7:06:39 PM>
END TRANSCODING OPERATIONS
Transcoding executed on File: G:\AVStoDVD\Doed_latest_0_Doed.m2v (1824.5 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 2953 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 25 fps - Progressive - 1:27:42 hours - 131551 frames
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<6/30/2009 7:09:51 PM>
END PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown executed on File: G:\AVStoDVD\Doed_latest_0_Doed.m2v (1824.5 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 2953 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 29.97 fps - Progressive - 1:27:41 hours - 157701 frames
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<6/30/2009 7:11:36 PM>
END AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: G:\AVStoDVD\Doed_latest_0_Doed.ac3 (240.9 MB)
OUTPUT AUDIO INFO: AC3 - 384 kbps - CBR - 48000Hz - 2ch - 1:27:42 hours
<>

I also could not Hard Code the subs, it went to Quenc for a second then on to audio encoding.

Went back to the previous Alpha and all worked well. Here's that log:

<6/30/2009 4:12:49 PM>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: C:\Doed.avi
Info: XviD - 968 kbps - 624x336 - DAR 1.857 - 25 fps - Progressive - 1:27:42 hours - 131551 frames
Audio: C:\Doed.avi
Info: MPEG-1 Audio layer 3 - 134 kbps - VBR - 48000Hz - 2ch - 1:27:42 hours
Subs: C:\Doed.srt
[]
<>

<6/30/2009 4:12:49 PM>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\Lib\VSFilter.dll")
Import("C:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")

Video = A2DVideoSource("C:\Doed.avi", CacheFolder = "C:\DOCUME~1\Johnny\LOCALS~1\Temp")
Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
#Using DGPulldown to upsize FPS
Video = Video.AddBorders(0,7,0,7)
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,480)
Video = Video.TextSub("C:\Doed.srt")

Audio = A2DAudioSource("C:\Doed.avi", CacheFolder = "C:\DOCUME~1\Johnny\LOCALS~1\Temp")
Audio = Audio.EnsureVBRMP3Sync()

AudioDub(Video, Audio)
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<6/30/2009 4:12:49 PM>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: QuEnc CBR 1-pass
Target Video FileSize: 4107.4 MB
QuEnc Parameters: -i "C:\DOCUME~1\Johnny\LOCALS~1\Temp\DOED_N_ALPHA_0_Doed.avs" -o "G:\AVStoDVD\DOED_N_ALPHA_0_Doed.m2v" -b 6548 -1 -hq -novbr -scene -trell -aspectratio 16:9 -nointerlaced -mpeg2mux noaudio -dc 10 -priority 5 -auto -close
<>

Here's a SS of the new build:

MrC

1st July 2009, 22:25

@MysticE

Fixing a bug in the bitrate calculation routine has generated another bug, only for NTSC setting. Anyway, ReJig shrinking seems to be a little bit too aggressive. I suspect that QuEnc sometimes does a heavy bitrate padding. Waiting for 2.2.1, if you have time, repeat that project using HCenc.

;)

Bye

MysticE

1st July 2009, 23:41

No hurries the Alpha is fine.
repeat that project using HCenc.

Makes no difference, the too high bitrate is already chosen (I assume based on the wrong/short runtime, shows as 1:13 instead of 1:27). And if I choose to burn subs with HCenc it also crashes.

Filbert

2nd July 2009, 08:44

Hi MrC,

just two other things that might be corrected if I'm not wrong (mainly for PAL-DV Sources):

1. For interlaced sources shouldn't it be "Video = Video.ConvertToYV12 (interlaced=true)" instead of "Video = Video.ConvertToYV12"?
2. Adding Borders and resizing shouldn't be necessary (Video = Video.AddBorders(24,0,24,0)
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,576)) as it's already correct size. Maybe it's adjusted because the pixelratio 720:576 is 5:4 and the aspectratio should be 4:3. If I feed my DVD recorder (Panasonic DMR E65) with DV (via Firewire, digital copy) there's no adding of borders/resizing. Same with commercial DVD authoring program (Sonic DVDit).

Not that important as I can correct this by editing the script, but maybe you agree...

Thanx, Filbert

drjake

2nd July 2009, 18:32

When trying to use the preview window for the Menu editing Function, I get an Error 445 Object doesn't support this action message. Any suggestions on how to fix this.

toology

3rd July 2009, 12:50

I have a small feature request. In my case the only guaranteed non stuter way of converting 23.976 to PAL is a speedup to 25 fps. Could you add an option to do that for us that have pulldown issues? Thanks!

MrC

3rd July 2009, 22:05

For interlaced sources shouldn't it be "Video = Video.ConvertToYV12 (interlaced=true)" instead of "Video = Video.ConvertToYV12"?

You are correct. And update is simple. ;)

Adding Borders and resizing shouldn't be necessary (Video = Video.AddBorders(24,0,24,0)
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,576)) as it's already correct size. Maybe it's adjusted because the pixelratio 720:576 is 5:4 and the aspectratio should be 4:3. If I feed my DVD recorder (Panasonic DMR E65) with DV (via Firewire, digital copy) there's no adding of borders/resizing. Same with commercial DVD authoring program (Sonic DVDit).

Your explanation goes in the right way: if DAR is 1.25 then AddBorders is added. Unfortunately many DV files have a wrong DAR flag (instead of 1.333/1.778 they have 1.25) or no flag at all. But, generally speaking, I have to trust what MediaInfo reads.

When trying to use the preview window for the Menu editing Function, I get an Error 445 Object doesn't support this action message. Any suggestions on how to fix this.

Do you get the same error by using the Preview Clip window from the main window?
Do you have a directshow compatible codec installed (like ffdshow)?

I have a small feature request. In my case the only guaranteed non stuter way of converting 23.976 to PAL is a speedup to 25 fps. Could you add an option to do that for us that have pulldown issues? Thanks!

That's curious: in early AVStoDVD releases (up to 1.1.3) there was the possibilty to choose fps upsizing method (ChangeFPS, ConvertFPS or Pulldown), but I removed it because, theoretically speaking, the best way is Pulldown. Will go in ToDo list with low priority.

;)

Bye

toology

6th July 2009, 01:26

Thanks man! Any tool I used that encoded with HCenc gave me skipping and jitter, so I finally gave up and started speeding up video.

hlrsnd

6th July 2009, 02:09

I wanted to let you know, MrC, that I successfully encoded an 89 min, 20 title NTSC DVD using Windows 7 32-bit RC. All files were Avisynth scripts joining, fading, etc., avi files. Everything worked great. Thanks. Looking forward to the next version.

drjake

6th July 2009, 15:52

Do you get the same error by using the Preview Clip window from the main window?
Do you have a directshow compatible codec installed (like ffdshow)?

I get the error with both preview windows. I do have FFDSHOW installed.

MrC

6th July 2009, 22:18

@drjake

from AVStoDVD help section:

The Internal Player uses DirectShow ActiveMovie Library (quartz.dll), distributed with DirectX since release 8. To function properly, installed codecs must be compatible with ActiveMovie (like ffdshow).

NOTE 1: if you cannot see any preview (i.e. image stays gray while playback is running), please check your Video Decoder Configuration (see FFDShow configuration example)

NOTE 2: if you get program crashes or system instability, please try the following (keep the order):
- check your video and audio codecs
- toggle off "Unload DirectShow ActiveMovie library at runtime" in Preferences - Misc
- select "Use External Player" in Paths Settings Tab.

Instability may be caused by: lots of codec installed (remove some of them), ffdshow unstable builds (use only stable ones) or broken DirectShow libraries (reinstall MS DirectX).

;)

Bye

rendez2k

6th July 2009, 22:46

Filbert

8th July 2009, 08:50

I just found out that I now can send video files straight from my video editor to AVStoDVD (thanx to the added drag & drop / extended CL support). Thanx for that :)

Small bug:
If I add a demultiplexed mpeg file (file.mpv + file.ac3) and the audio file is named wrong (eg fille.ac3) than the saved project file is empty. Of course the project then has no sound as the files are not corresponding, but the project file shouldn't be empty I think. If I rename the audio file to the correct name and re-add then the project file is okay. I found this one when adding 14 demultiplexed video/audio files and one audio file was named wrong.
This also happens when just removing an existing audio track in the "Source Titles" window -> empty project file.

Greets, Filbert

MrC

8th July 2009, 15:15

I've been playing with the menu editor again (not used it for a while to be honest!).... a couple of quick questions.

1. In a text only menu, if I change the size/font of one menu item, can I apply it to all?

2. Is it possible to save a menu layout?

3. Can text be left/right aligned?

4. I assume the highlight colour can't be changed yet?

The whole app is becoming very accomplished. Its looking great!

Edit: Also, what are the different options for the AC3 encoder? Any better than others? Had issues with a movie file yesterday where the audio sounded 'speeded up'

1. Yes, you can: click on the lock icon before making changes to title properties.
2. No, but it is in the ToDo list. Anyway you can manually add/edit templates in the folder \AVStoDVD\Menu\Templates
3. No, I will add
4. No, not yet, but same as 2.
5. Thanks! That's because of your suggestions!
6. Generally speaking, Aften is better than QuEnc and Wavi is faster than ffmpeg. So best choice is Wavi+Aften. Use others options only if you have problems.

Small bug:
If I add a demultiplexed mpeg file (file.mpv + file.ac3) and the audio file is named wrong (eg fille.ac3) than the saved project file is empty. Of course the project then has no sound as the files are not corresponding, but the project file shouldn't be empty I think. If I rename the audio file to the correct name and re-add then the project file is okay. I found this one when adding 14 demultiplexed video/audio files and one audio file was named wrong.
This also happens when just removing an existing audio track in the "Source Titles" window -> empty project file.

Thanks, there was a bug in the Save Project routine (at least one audio track was requested). Will be fixed with 2.2.1.

;)

Bye

MrC

8th July 2009, 15:24

P.S. I have released the 2.2.0 2 days ago and I have already found a bug: when encoding 5.1 AAC tracks to 5.1 AC3 tracks, channels mapping is wrong. Correct mapping should be 2-1-3-4-6-5. Shame on me.

I have made more investigations (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=148178) and I found out that as a matter of fact Aften does not need any 5+1 channel remapping, whatever the source is, while QuEnc needs GetChannel(1,3,2,5,6,4) adjustement.

Please take note that:
- all releases make wrong (5.1) AAC->AC3, DTS->AC3 audio conversions
- releases 2.1.3 / 2.1.4 / 2.2.0 make wrong (5.1) AC3->AC3 when using Aften. No errors if AC3 audio track is retained.

If you want to manually adjust this error, you must edit AviSynth script.

Sorry for this annoying drawback.

:o

Bye

8th July 2009, 22:22

Has the 'No DVD Menu' option been removed from the latest version?

MrC

9th July 2009, 09:21

Has the 'No DVD Menu' option been removed from the latest version?

No, it doesn't. 'No Menu' is the default choice, overridden if you select 'DVD Menu Wizard'.

;)

Bye

9th July 2009, 23:17

No, it doesn't. 'No Menu' is the default choice, overridden if you select 'DVD Menu Wizard'.

;)

Bye

Thanks for the swift reply, missed that, haven't been following the forum as closely as I should have been recently.

Flux

17th July 2009, 12:36

How I can do PAL 4% speed up for audio? I tried using this, but it doesn't work for audio.

Video = Video.AssumeFPS(25)
Video = Video.AddBorders(0,6,0,6)
Video = Video.Spline36Resize(720,576)

Audio = Audio.AssumeFPS(25,sync_audio=true)
Audio = Audio.SSRC(48000)

AudioDub(Video, Audio)

toology

17th July 2009, 13:01

Perhaps you should encode audio separately, I believe eac3to GUI has the option for speedup. You can even use HDConverttoX, it has audio only option.

MrC

18th July 2009, 12:56

@Flux

what is exactly your purpose? Why do you have to speed up audio? Remember that only video, not audio, has frames.

;)

Bye

Flux

18th July 2009, 18:44

I have a PAL TV, so it doesn't like DVD frame rates 23.976 or 29.97. The problem is that audio will go out of sync and it need to be speed up by ~ 4%, if video is turned to 25 fps. I'm not sure about adding extra frames to get 25 fps, because TextSub doesn't seem to like it. Texts are "pulsing" every second or so and minor stuttering is annoying too. Only speed up would work, but it is kinda "hard" to extract audio, process it with audio editor and then put it back to AVStoDVD. I'm just a lazy butt and wonder if there is easier way to do it.

MrC

18th July 2009, 20:21

Theoretically speaking, if you have a 23.976 fps source and you have to convert to PAL DVD, the correct way to do is:

- convert video to mpeg2 staying at 23.976 fps
- apply pulldown to 25 fps (dgpulldown IS the tool)
- convert audio to ac3/mp2/wav/dts without any speed change
- author to DVD

(that's AVStoDVD path, of course).

Where do your issues come out? Do you have same problem as toology reported?

;)

Bye

Flux

19th July 2009, 11:06

When letting to do DGpulldown for 23.976 -> 25, video has "pulse" effect every 9th frame or something like that. It is most noticeable with hard encoded bright subtitles. This happens for original built-in movie subtitles too (ending credits for example).

This GIF animation shows the pulse effect. It is a bit slower actually, but couldn't time it right for GIF.
http://personal.inet.fi/koti/kst/testi.gif

MrC

20th July 2009, 22:25

If DGPulldown creates that pulse effect (BTW it should not, maybe neuron2, the author, can help us to understand why), you should go with ChangeFPS/ConvertFPS. Take a look at AviSynth documentation for AssumeFPS/ChangeFPS/ConvertFPS differences and be careful if your source is not progressive (see end of AviSynth doc page).
AssumeFPS is generally to be avoided because:

The AssumeFPS filter changes the frame rate without changing the frame count (causing the video to play faster or slower). It only sets the framerate-parameter
If sync_audio is true, it also changes the audio sample rate by the same ratio, the pitch of the resulting audio gets shifted.

It means that you risk to change audio sample rate, going out of DVD-Video spec. Instead by using your script:

Audio = Audio.AssumeFPS(25,sync_audio=true)
Audio = Audio.SSRC(48000)

assuming that your input file has already 48000 Hz audio rate, you are speeding up audio (from 48000 to 48000*25/23.976) and then speeding down it (from 48000*25/23.976 to 48000): no sample rate change change and out of sync guarantee.

;)

Bye

MrC

29th July 2009, 21:51

Release 2.2.1 is out (http://sourceforge.net/projects/avstodvd/files/)

Change log:

- Some bugs fixed
- Added 'Import Chapters' option to 'Title Edit'/'Chapters' (IfoEdit CellTimes format supported)
- Added 'Force PlayAll Selection' option to DVD Menu Wizard
- Added 'Text Alignment' options to DVD Menu Editor
- Added 'Toolbar Position' customization ('Standard' or 'Floating') to DVD Menu Editor
- Added text output (debug purpose) to A2DSource.avsi function
- Changed DVD Menu Background and PlayAll image files format: from jpg to bmp
- Improved DVD Menu Editor graphical items handling with mouse
- Improved AviSynth script generation routine (fixed 5.1 channels audio mapping issue, Audio source brought to script top)
- Improved log activity
- FFmpeg updated to r19159
- MediaInfo updated to 0.7.19

Happy conversions! Post here any issues or suggestions.

;)

Bye

rendez2k

29th July 2009, 22:33

Possible small bug: set my DVD title to left aligned and in the preview it centres - not tried a full output yet.

OAKside

30th July 2009, 07:27

Thanks again for all the updates and hard work on AVStoDVD, MrC! I've used The FilmMachine and FAVC in the past, but AVStoDVD has taken over so-to-speak for a while now.

I noticed a trend in my logs pointing to a problem since installing ~2.2.0. Seems to calculate bitrate wrong, ends up creating video file over 5 GB, ReJig always needed to transcode. Many times even the transcode would end up slightly too big, which was my first alert to this problem. Reverted to AVStoDVD 2.1.4 and (even with HCenc 0.2.4 beta) no longer see these problems in logs.

Has this been verified and/or fixed in 2.2.1? Maybe I missed it in the search.

<7/2/2009 8:59:13 PM>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: HCenc VBR 2-pass
Target Video FileSize: 4242.3 MB
HCenc Parameters: -ini "C:\Output\AVSD\OMG_0_OMG.HCenc.ini"
HCenc ini file:
*INFILE C:\Output\AVSD\OMG_0_OMG.avs
*AVSRELOAD
*OUTFILE C:\Output\AVSD\OMG_0_OMG.m2v
*LOGFILE C:\Output\AVSD\OMG_0_OMG.HCenc.log
*MAXBITRATE 9000
*BITRATE 7374
*PROFILE BEST
*ASPECT 16:9
*PROGRESSIVE
*BIAS 70
*DC_PREC 10
*MATRIX MPEG
*AQ 1
*LUMGAIN 0
*SMP
*PRIORITY IDLE
*WAIT 2
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<7/2/2009 10:40:51 PM>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: C:\Output\AVSD\OMG_0_OMG.m2v (5248.4 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 7429 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 23.976 fps - Progressive - 1:40:26 hours - 144490 frames
<>

<7/2/2009 10:40:51 PM>
START TRANSCODING OPERATIONS
ReJig Parameters: -size 4242 -o "C:\Output\AVSD\OMG_0_OMG.ReJig.m2v" -i "C:\Output\AVSD\OMG_0_OMG.m2v" -auto -close -quiet
<>

<7/2/2009 10:45:26 PM>
END TRANSCODING OPERATIONS
Transcoding executed on File: C:\Output\AVSD\OMG_0_OMG.m2v (4241.8 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 6003 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 23.976 fps - Progressive - 1:40:26 hours - 144490 frames
<>

PS - Donated! (Robert M., USA)

PPS - I made an icon (http://oakside24.deviantart.com/art/AVStoDVD-97285461) for AVStoDVD a while back (a hobby of mine).

MrC

30th July 2009, 16:57

@rendez2k

yes, you are right, DVD Title alignment is working only in Edit Mode. Will fix it. Thanks! Thumbs label alignment is OK.

@OAKside

your issue (NTSC bitrate calculation bug) with 2.2.0 is known (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1301613#post1301613). Please check release 2.2.1 because it should have been fixed now.
Thanks for the donation! And the Vista style icon looks very beutiful! Good job!

;)

Bye

OAKside

30th July 2009, 17:43

your issue (NTSC bitrate calculation bug) with 2.2.0 is known (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1301613#post1301613). Please check release 2.2.1 because it should have been fixed now.
Thanks for the donation! And the Vista style icon looks very beutiful! Good job!
Nice! I thought I'd read that about the bitrate issue, but it was a bit further back then I searched. Installing 2.2.1. And thanks (about the icon)!

Richardw322

31st July 2009, 23:26

MrC, why the change on menu background from jpg to bmp? It's easier to find jpg than bmp, at least for me.

MrC

1st August 2009, 08:37

MrC, why the change on menu background from jpg to bmp? It's easier to find jpg than bmp, at least for me.

Do not worry, jpg is still supported. I have only changed the provided templates image format from jpg to bmp. Maybe the change log is not that clear.

;)

Bye

Richardw322

1st August 2009, 13:31

Another question, I like to back up my DVDs and put the original away and use the backup. My DVD player wont read DVD+R DL disks, so I have to shrink to DVD5. I can use DVDshrink, but I lose the menu. Could I rip the main movie only and then use that plus AVItoDVD to build a DVD5 with menu? Would I rip to one big VOB with DVDDecripter?

ohmy

1st August 2009, 19:08

Hi!

I'm new to DVD creation, and wanted to find a free, usable solution. Now I see there are no simple solutions, but AVStoDVD is getting closer.
If I can have some suggestions:

I'm using AVStoDVD 2.2.1 and trying to create a simple DVD with no menus from PAL DV videos. The DV tape has been copied into multiple files
(every scene change means a new file), so a 70 min DVD can include more than 50-100 files.

This gives two problems:
1. If the number of files is bigger than 99, AVStoDVD writes an "out of range" error.

2. The bigger problem is Muxman, which is muxing the sound and video. It seems, that it cannot mux more than 64 file, so I got this error after the successful encoding
of 77 file:
-- PGC "VMG_Lu1_Pgc1" Pre command group has 154 commands, maximum is 128.

And the job is cancelled after that.
I used Muxman gui, to add all the audio and video files, and it created the DVD, but I couldn't find where to add chapters and strangely the audio was out of sync.

After a week I found the solution to my problem, and created the DVD. I had to make 3 big file from the 99 small one using Virtualdub. On the DVD each file means a new DVD title, is there an option to change this?
I can only see chapters/title.

3.
MediaInfo bug:
GSpot recognises the correct dar: 16/9.
MediaInfo GUI seems to recognise it too: 16/9.
But in AVStoDVD MediaInfo couldn't recognise the correct aspect ratio, so AVStoDVD tried to make 4/3 video.

I had to manually delete all Video.AddBorders(24,0,24,0) rows, and alter the VideoAspectRatio: 0 to VideoAspectRatio: 1.

If MediaInfo is not reliable (and I think it's not), an option would be good to change the aspect ratio for ALL files in one step
manually before DVD creation.

4.
I searched for a day, which encoder, HcEnc or QuEnc gives better quality at highest DVD bitrates. I'm still not sure. So gave it a try. I set HcEnc OVP option in preferences, locked the
bitrates, than pushed the OK button. But after the START button, QuEnc was used. I looked at the avs script file, and it had HcEnc written in it. Still QuEnc was used.

HcEnc worked only after I pushed "save as defaults" in the preferences dialog. It's confusing.

5.
While having unsuccessful tries in DVD creation, I was too lame to find how AVStoDVD can be stopped. While it's easy to accidentaly push stop in QuEnc, or HcEnc and have a bad DVD because of it,
AVStoDVD doesn't have a Stop option. I always had to kill it Task Manager.

Other than these issues, your program seems to do the job, and it's better than other solutions. Thanks! :)

OAKside

1st August 2009, 22:11

MrC,

One of the only things that bothers me about 2.2.x (vs 2.1.4) is the new Adv. Project Settings (+Settings).
I like to keep temp/work files, now I always need to remember to click +Settings and uncheck both "Delete" boxes.
Is there any way to save the +Settings preferences, or even just start AVStoDVD with the +Settings options open?

manolito

1st August 2009, 22:14

@Richardw322
AVStoDVD is a great piece of software, but for backing up your DVDs it is certainly not your first choice.
I can use DVDshrink, but I lose the menu.
What??
DVDShrink has two modes of operation, the first mode will transcode the whole DVD including all menues, and the second mode lets you create "your own" DVD. In this mode you can add only the title sets you need, but you will lose the menues.

If you do not like the quality of DVDShrink in mode #1 then your alternative is DVDRebuilder which reencodes your source DVD from scratch (as opposed to DVDShrink which is a Compressed Domain Transcoder). The free version combined with the HC encoder is hard to beat in terms of quality vs. price...

Cheers
manolito

MrC

2nd August 2009, 15:16

@Richardw322

using DVD-RB (as suggested by manolito) is the best choice to preserve menues and keep a good quality. If you want to use AVStoDVD you have to extract video, audio and subs with ReJig, save the chapter position (txt) with IfoEdit and load everyting into AVStoDVD.
BTW, I plan to add DVD structure parsing capability to next releases (for example to grab some titles/streams or part of them), so stay tuned. ;)

@OAKside

what do you think saving the +Settings last selection in the registry?

@ohmy

hi and welcome here! First of all, thanks for your kind words and suggestions. Let's go with the sequence.

1. 2. The limit of 99 titles is set by BatchMux. We should address your request to Sir Didymus (the author), but he is very busy in the last months...

3. It's strange that MediaInfo GUI says that your DV file as a 16:9 DAR, while AVStoDVD does not. They use same MediaInfo DLL. Could you please send me a short DV sample? No plan to add changing the aspect ratio for all files in one step (generally speaking, I should do that for *every* settings, that's mean tons of code lines...)

4. Are you sure you have changed the encoding preferences before starting a new project?

5. I agree with you. A general stop button could help. I will put it the ToDo list.

;)

Bye

Richardw322

2nd August 2009, 16:22

Manolito, Thanks for the advise, I want only the main movie, and a menu. (The hell with the stupid promos, and I( don't use spanish or french or subtitles at all) Looks likek a pain with AVItoDVD, so I'll look at DVDRebuilder.

MrC looks like it would be fun once to learn, but a PITA. Sigh, install and learn another program....

Thanks guys!!

OAKside

2nd August 2009, 22:14

what do you think saving the +Settings last selection in the registry?Exactly, that sounds great. :)

MysticE

3rd August 2009, 03:50

@OAKside

what do you think saving the +Settings last selection in the registry?

I'd like to see the '+Settings' options stay open and visible when I re-open the app. I long for the good old days when many options were readily available right from from the main screen. :)

So far the latest build has been working fine. :thanks:

MrC

3rd August 2009, 13:59

3.
MediaInfo bug:
GSpot recognises the correct dar: 16/9.
MediaInfo GUI seems to recognise it too: 16/9.
But in AVStoDVD MediaInfo couldn't recognise the correct aspect ratio, so AVStoDVD tried to make 4/3 video.

I had to manually delete all Video.AddBorders(24,0,24,0) rows, and alter the VideoAspectRatio: 0 to VideoAspectRatio: 1.

If MediaInfo is not reliable (and I think it's not), an option would be good to change the aspect ratio for ALL files in one step
manually before DVD creation.

After some searching I have found the clue. MediaInfo has 2 DAR tags: DisplayAspectRatio and DisplayAspectRatio_Original. The latter is to be used, if it exists. And for DV files, it does exist.

From next release DV aspect ratio will be correctly detected.

;)

Bye

ohmy

4th August 2009, 18:52

Hi, MrC!

> After some searching I have found the clue. MediaInfo has 2 DAR tags: DisplayAspectRatio and DisplayAspectRatio_Original. The latter is to be used, if it exists. And for DV files, it does exist.
> From next release DV aspect ratio will be correctly detected.

Thanks!

According to my other questions:

> 1. 2. The limit of 99 titles is set by BatchMux. We should address your request to Sir Didymus (the author), but he is very busy in the last months...

I searched for Batchmux, and yes, it states that 99 file can be used.
Though I think it will report an error when it has reached more than 64.

I can live with that for now, but I still have the question:
How to add files, so that they won't be separate titles on the DVD?

Example:
I want a 60 minute DVD with 2 titles. The second title starts at 30
minute. I would type that 30 minute somewhere like I can type the
chapter starting points.

But to make this DVD, i would use 10 separate files. They should be
seen as 2 titles (separeted at 30 minute), not 10 titles.
How can I make this?

> 4. Are you sure you have changed the encoding preferences before starting a new project?

Hmmmm. No. I changed the preferences while working on the project. I think the project has been saved once.
So to modify a setting while working on the project, I have to press "save as defaults" ?

It's still confusing to me, why a simple "apply" won't do the job :)

> 5. I agree with you. A general stop button could help. I will put it the ToDo list.

Thanks!

One more thing:
Which one gives better quality at high 7000-8000 bitrate:
QuEnc or HcEnc OVP or HcEnc two pass?

MrC

4th August 2009, 21:54

@ohmy

1 and 2.
Actually you cannot join small clips into one title directly in AVStoDVD. The limitation is "one clip"->"one title". Better solution is to join your AVI using VirtualDub and then feed the big clips to AVStoDVD.

4.
Pressing 'Save current preferences as defaults' does not change current project settings. It only writes preferences to Windows Registry. Reason of 'Apply' absence is that project settings are really a lot, always increasing and often each other dependant. It has become a mess to reflect a Preferences change to the current setup (until release 2.1.4 it was like that).

6.
If the source has a decent quality, when using bitrate higher than 7000 kbps, even crappy mpeg2 encoders (do not ask me which, please... ;) ) are good enough. So I suggest you to go with QuEnc CBR: it delivers good quality with a small amount of encoding time.

:)

Bye

MysticE

10th August 2009, 01:51

Hmm... Think I found a new way to make a few dollars.

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0310025

gizzin

10th August 2009, 02:58

Them f*ckers

Hmm... Think I found a new way to make a few dollars.

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0310025

MrC

10th August 2009, 22:11

Hmm... Think I found a new way to make a few dollars.

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0310025

We are in good company (http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?coordinate_group=PH3)...

Anyway, who is so silly to buy a CD when free (and updated) software is so easy to download?

:confused::rolleyes:

Bye

MysticE

11th August 2009, 09:47

We are in good company (http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?coordinate_group=PH3)...

Anyway, who is so silly to buy a CD when free (and updated) software is so easy to download?

:confused::rolleyes:

Bye
Well there is an eBayer (one of many) who has been selling open source discs for many years (Audacity, Cdex, GIMP etc). He has well over 10,000 transactions.

Filbert

13th August 2009, 19:48

After some searching I have found the clue. MediaInfo has 2 DAR tags: DisplayAspectRatio and DisplayAspectRatio_Original. The latter is to be used, if it exists. And for DV files, it does exist.

From next release DV aspect ratio will be correctly detected.

Thanks, I guess this will help with my missing dv aspect ratio too :)

Greets, Filbert

MysticE

13th August 2009, 21:06

Got an odd problem which I just noticed. For some reason I'm not getting all the chapters as specified. This has happened with 2 projects.

On my last project, runtime 1:37:35 24fps (to NTSC), the chapter tab shows 19 chapter points (every 5 min). But the final DVD has only 16.

I'll try again to get a Muxman log.

Just tried another, no problems except the chapters, the tab showed 20 were to be created, but only 17 were. The muxman log showed only the 17 chapters.

MrC

21st August 2009, 21:26

@MysticE

sorry for the delay... but I am in vacation with my family (I have 2 little babies)... really no time to take a look at doom9...

Do send me the logs (avstodvd's and muxman's) and the screenshot of chapters tab. I will check them next week.

;)

Bye

MrC

25th August 2009, 21:35

Ok, got the issue: when NTSC 23.976 fps is soft pulldown to 29.97 it retains the original encoded video frames. Even if DVD displayed frames are more (29.97/23.976 ratio). Surely MPEG2 experts can give more accurate details than me.

So right now chapter positioning in NTSC 23.976 to 29.97 projects is wrong. Bug will be fixed with next release.

;)

Bye

nozuul

1st September 2009, 03:17

MrC,

Great product! I use it to make simple Backups of our BluRay disks as we do not have a BD player in the bedroom. Anyway, sometimes it works flawlessly, other times, the audio track selection, Track 0 True HD gets me a French language track. If I try to select another track it will not even open Quenc or HCenc. It does some work for quite some time, but then fails with FFMpeg. I can't remember off the top of my head. The original input is an M2TS file. Has this been a problem before? Am I doing something wrong? You probably need a log file, and I think I deleted them all, but if you need more info I can easily recreate the problem as I own the disks.

Thanks!

MrC

1st September 2009, 12:50

Hi nozuul and thanks for the kind words.

AVStoDVD uses the capability of FFMpegSource to select different audio tracks than the main one (track 0). If you choose track 0, then it is likely that DirectShowSource will be used, instead if you choose track 1, 2, etc. than FFMpegSource is called.

There should be some fights between FFMS and your m2ts files. If you can, send me a short sample of the m2ts.

A quick try you can alway do is to launch Preview Clip before starting to encode.

;)

Bye

nozuul

1st September 2009, 21:28

Thanks for the response!

Unfortunately, any track that I select other than 0 the preview fails and the program crashes.

As for sending you a clip...how would I go about cutting a snippet out to send?

MrC

1st September 2009, 22:26

Do not mind, I have found an "old" m2ts sample with 2 audio tracks and FFMpegSource does not seem to like this kind of container.

A workaround is needed. I will think about it. Thanks for the input and any suggestion (from anybody) is welcomed.

BTW you can extract the video/audio stream you wish processing your m2ts file with TsRemux and then feed AVStoDVD with the elementary streams.

;)

Bye

Myrsloik

1st September 2009, 23:47

Can I have that file for my collection?

nozuul

2nd September 2009, 04:07

Thanks MrC!

Still trying to figure out which stream it is in TsRemux, there is probably an easy way to figure it out, but I am clueless, but it looks like this solution will work. I had been using BD Rebuilder to do a movie only copy which allowed me to select the stream, then feeding that into AVS2DVD...Loooooong process...

Thanks for your help, and a great product!

MrC

2nd September 2009, 08:35

Can I have that file for my collection?

Here you are the ts sample (http://avstodvd.googlepages.com/football.7z) (9 MB).

It has 3 video streams and 2 audio streams. When trying to load audio, FFMS (1.21) says "bleh, bad audio decoding".

FFAudioSource("football.ts", atrack = 1, acachefile = "FFA1.cache", acachefile2 = "FFA2.cache")

Thanks

;)

Bye

Richardw322

6th September 2009, 16:58

I am having a little problem and I could use some help. I am trying to make a DVD from a MP4 file. I get a runtime error when QENC starts saying that the App requested the runtime to terminate in an unusual way. The video is AVC 320x240 29.97 fps progressive. Says to see the log in which I see nothing. Here is the log file:
<9/6/2009 10:29:22 AM>
START PROCESS
<>

<9/6/2009 10:29:22 AM>
PROJECT SETTINGS

DVD Video Standard: NTSC
DVD Titles number: 1
DVD Size: 4435/4435 MB (100%)
DVD Output Setup: ISO UDF Image
DVD Label: Beast of Hollow Mountain
DVD Menu: No Menu
Output Folder: G:\Output
Save Log file: Yes
Delete Temp Process Files: Yes
Delete Working Files: Yes
Edit Command Parameters: No
Post Process Task: Show Progress Status window

<>

<9/6/2009 10:29:22 AM>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: C:\Users\richard\Desktop\Beast of Hollow Mountain.mp4
Info: AVC - 511 kbps - 320x240 - DAR 1.304 - 29.97 fps - Progressive - 1:18:54 hours - 141890 frames
Audio: C:\Users\richard\Desktop\Beast of Hollow Mountain.mp4
Info: AAC LC - 64 kbps - VBR - 48000Hz - 2ch - 1:18:53 hours
Subs:
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.19]
<>

<9/6/2009 10:29:22 AM>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Import("C:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")

Video = A2DVideoSource("C:\Users\richard\Desktop\Beast of Hollow Mountain.mp4", CacheFolder = "G:\Temp")
Audio = A2DAudioSource("C:\Users\richard\Desktop\Beast of Hollow Mountain.mp4", CacheFolder = "G:\Temp")

Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
Video = Video.ChangeFPS(29.97)
Video = Video.AddBorders(3,0,3,0)
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(352,240)

AudioDub(Video, Audio)
<>

<9/6/2009 10:29:22 AM>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: QuEnc CBR 1-pass
Target Video FileSize: 4245.5 MB
QuEnc Parameters: -i "G:\Temp\Beast of Hollow Mountain_0_Beast of Hollow Mountain.avs" -o "G:\Output\Beast of Hollow Mountain_0_Beast of Hollow Mountain.m2v" -b 7523 -1 -hq -novbr -scene -trell -aspectratio 4:3 -nointerlaced -mpeg2mux noaudio -dc 10 -priority 5 -auto -close
<>

<9/6/2009 10:30:04 AM>
PROCESS ABORTED DURING TITLE 1 VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS.

CHECK LOG FILE <G:\OUTPUT\BEAST OF HOLLOW MOUNTAIN_0.LOG> FOR MORE INFO.
<>

<9/6/2009 10:30:04 AM>
Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.2.1
<>

HELP!!

MrC

6th September 2009, 19:36

@Richardw322

2 quick questions:

1. Have you already encoded other mp4 (avc+aac) file without problems?
2. Have you tried with HCenc too?

;)

Bye

Richardw322

6th September 2009, 20:03

@Richardw322

2 quick questions:

1. Have you already encoded other mp4 (avc+aac) file without problems?
2. Have you tried with HCenc too?

;)

Bye

1. No, MKV but not MP4. Also, this is the first AVC I've tried, before it was .264
2. How do I pick the encoder? that is the first thing I thought of, but I don't see how to override the default.

MrC

6th September 2009, 21:57

@Richardw322

1. Ok. Are you using a good AVC directshow decoder? Like ffdshow?
2. Go to 'Edit Title'/'Video', toggle off 'Auto Video Setup' and select 'Video Encoding Profile' #2 or #3

;)

Bye

Richardw322

7th September 2009, 15:13

1. I have FFDShow, and the MPC standalone filters. I can play in MPC with FFDshow or the built in filters. I tried to demux the video with yamb and the video file is not playable by itself. Going to try one more thing and then skip this thing.
2. Never played in there, henc gave the same error.

Richardw322

7th September 2009, 15:18

OK, I am done with this file. I just tried demuxing with yamb to AVI and media player classic doesn't play it. Chalck it up to a badly encoded file. I am doing this for a friend and he tried Nero and it wouldn't go either.

Richardw322

7th September 2009, 15:23

I do have another project for later today. I have 4 avi files that I am making into a dvd. All about the same length and bitrate, but one is 29.998 fps, and the other 3 are 23.98 (or whatever the rate is). That shouldn't be a problem, right?

MrC

7th September 2009, 21:59

@Richardw322

It should not.

Coming back to the mp4 file. Last question: did you install a mp4 splitter, like Haali Media Splitter (it comes with AVStoDVD exe installer package)?

;)

Bye

Richardw322

8th September 2009, 23:15

@Richardw322

It should not.

Coming back to the mp4 file. Last question: did you install a mp4 splitter, like Haali Media Splitter (it comes with AVStoDVD exe installer package)?

;)

Bye

Yea, like I said, I have done MKV to DVD a couple times.

Richardw322

8th September 2009, 23:23

Now, another question. I turned the AVI files into an ISO with AVS2DVD. They are 3 at 24 fps, one at 30fps (or there abouts), all 350 meg, and about 900 bit rate. Why is the iso only 3.20 gig? It used Henc 2pass. (It doesn't help that my DVD burner seems to have died this weekend!! Burned the iso 3 times and it wouldn't verify. Just tried on my HTPC and it was bat out of hell. Off to the Imgburn forum)

MrC

9th September 2009, 11:30

Since the DVD bitrate could be around 8500 kbps:

350/900*8500 = 3305 MB

It's OK

;)

Bye

ummus

9th September 2009, 18:38

Sir, I am trying to make a DVD from an AVI file. Fully converted into a DVD. But the audio is not matched with the video. Here is the log file. Please suggest me.

<09/06/2009 3:16:29 PM>
START PROCESS
<>

<09/06/2009 3:16:29 PM>
PROJECT SETTINGS

DVD Video Standard: PAL
DVD Titles number: 1
DVD Size: 4435/4435 MB (100%)
DVD Output Setup: DVD Folder
DVD Label: DVD
DVD Menu: No Menu
Output Folder: C:\Users\katheeja\Documents
Save Log file: Yes
Delete Temp Process Files: Yes
Delete Working Files: Yes
Edit Command Parameters: No
Post Process Task: Show Progress Status window

<>

<09/06/2009 3:16:29 PM>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: F:\New Folder\Movies\Tamil\SivaKaasi - Bo$$.avi
Info: XviD - 1687 kbps - 640x288 - DAR 2.222 - 23.976 fps - Progressive - 2:55:36 hours - 252625 frames
Audio: F:\New Folder\Movies\Tamil\SivaKaasi - Bo$$.avi
Info: MPEG-1/2 L3 - 128 kbps - - 48000Hz - 2ch - 2:56:24 hours
Subs:
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.19]
<>

<09/06/2009 3:16:29 PM>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Import("C:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")

Video = A2DVideoSource("F:\New Folder\Movies\Tamil\SivaKaasi - Bo$$.avi", CacheFolder = "C:\Users\katheeja\AppData\Local\Temp")
Audio = A2DAudioSource("F:\New Folder\Movies\Tamil\SivaKaasi - Bo$$.avi", CacheFolder = "C:\Users\katheeja\AppData\Local\Temp")

Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
#Using DGPulldown to upsize FPS
Video = Video.AddBorders(0,36,0,36)
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,576)

AudioDub(Video, Audio)
<>

<09/06/2009 3:16:29 PM>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: HCenc VBR 2-pass
Target Video FileSize: 4042.2 MB
HCenc Parameters: -ini "C:\Users\katheeja\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_1_SivaKaasi - Bo$$.HCenc.ini"
HCenc ini file:
*INFILE C:\Users\katheeja\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_1_SivaKaasi - Bo$$.avs
*AVSRELOAD
*OUTFILE C:\Users\katheeja\Documents\DVD_1_SivaKaasi - Bo$$.m2v
*LOGFILE C:\Users\katheeja\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_1_SivaKaasi - Bo$$.HCenc.log
*MAXBITRATE 9000
*BITRATE 3218
*PROFILE BEST
*ASPECT 16:9
*PROGRESSIVE
*BIAS 30
*DC_PREC 8
*MATRIX MPEG
*AQ 1
*LUMGAIN 0
*SMP
*PRIORITY IDLE
*WAIT 2
<>

<09/06/2009 6:00:41 PM>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
A2DVideoSource: AVISource
Created File: C:\Users\katheeja\Documents\DVD_1_SivaKaasi - Bo$$.m2v (4044 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 3273 kbps - 720x576 - DAR 1.778 - 23.976 fps - Progressive - 2:55:26 hours - 252372 frames
<>

<09/06/2009 6:13:27 PM>
END PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown executed on File: C:\Users\katheeja\Documents\DVD_1_SivaKaasi - Bo$$.m2v (4044 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 3270 kbps - 720x576 - DAR 1.778 - 24 fps - Progressive (2:2:2:2:2:2:2:2:2:2:2:3 Pulldown) - 2:55:36 hours - 252877 frames
<>

<09/06/2009 6:13:31 PM>
START AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Wavi+Aften Parameters: "C:\Users\katheeja\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_1_SivaKaasi - Bo$$.avs" - | "C:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\Aften\aften.exe" -b 192 - "C:\Users\katheeja\Documents\DVD_1_SivaKaasi - Bo$$.ac3"
<>

<09/06/2009 6:20:28 PM>
END AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
A2DAudioSource: DirectShowSource
Created File: C:\Users\katheeja\Documents\DVD_1_SivaKaasi - Bo$$.ac3 (241.2 MB)
OUTPUT AUDIO INFO: AC3 - 192 kbps - CBR - 48000Hz - 2ch - 2:55:36 hours
<>

<09/06/2009 6:20:29 PM>
START DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
BatchMux Parameters: -arglist "C:\Users\katheeja\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_1_BatchMux.ini"
BatchMux ini file:
-d "C:\Users\katheeja\Documents\DVD_1\VIDEO_TS"
-mxp "C:\Users\katheeja\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_1_MuxMan.mxp"
-l "C:\Users\katheeja\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_1_MuxMan.log"
-muxman "C:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\MuxMan"
-prio LOW
-v "C:\Users\katheeja\Documents\DVD_1_SivaKaasi - Bo$$.m2v"
-vidmode LB
-a1 "C:\Users\katheeja\Documents\DVD_1_SivaKaasi - Bo$$.ac3"
-a1lang en
-cellfr "C:\Users\katheeja\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_1_SivaKaasi - Bo$$_MuxMan.txt"
-progfr "C:\Users\katheeja\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_1_SivaKaasi - Bo$$_MuxMan.txt"
-chapfr "C:\Users\katheeja\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_1_SivaKaasi - Bo$$_MuxMan.txt"

<>

<09/06/2009 6:28:57 PM>
END DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
Created Folder: C:\Users\katheeja\Documents\DVD_1 (4397.2 MB)
<>

<09/06/2009 6:28:58 PM>
Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.2.1
<>

Richardw322

9th September 2009, 22:59

Since the DVD bitrate could be around 8500 kbps:

350/900*8500 = 3305 MB

It's OK

;)

Bye

But, there are 4 AVI files, does that still work?

MrC

10th September 2009, 20:11

@ummus

what do you mean "the audio is not matched with the video"? That the audio is out of sync with video? I can see one peculiarity in your input file: video has a length of 2:55:36 hours and audio has a length of 2:56:24 hours. Is ok input video playback?

@Richardw322

please post the log file.

;)

Bye

Richardw322

10th September 2009, 23:43

I think I attached a zip file, I hope so.
Looks like I did! Did seem a little small.

davidcw

12th September 2009, 21:02

Hi,
I just converted the download of "Home" from Azureus ( It is also available from YouTube at a slightly higher bitrate ) and here is the the AviSynth Script I used:

LoadPlugin("c:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Msharpen.dll")
LoadPlugin("c:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\ColorMatrix.dll")

Import("C:\Program Files\AVStoDVD\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")

Video = A2DVideoSource("C:\Documents and Settings\oem\My Documents\Azureus Downloads\HOME.mkv", CacheFolder = "C:\DOCUME~1\oem\LOCALS~1\Temp")
Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
Video = Video.ColorMatrix(mode="Rec.709->Rec.601")
#Using DGPulldown to upsize FPS
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,576)
Video = Video.Msharpen(8,60,true,false,false)

Audio = A2DAudioSource("C:\Documents and Settings\oem\My Documents\Azureus Downloads\HOME.mkv", CacheFolder = "C:\DOCUME~1\oem\LOCALS~1\Temp")
Audio = Audio.SSRC(48000)

AudioDub(Video, Audio)

Using HC with AQ=1 and Lumigain=1 and Fox2 matrix, it gave suprisingly good results with slight jerking due to the PAL conversion, but the extra 96 lines are worth having.

I used convert ColorMatrix as I assumed it came from a BD disc.
Do I have "Video = Video.ColorMatrix(mode="Rec.709->Rec.601")"
in the right place?

MrC

14th September 2009, 20:17

@Richardw322

Send me the log file via email (avstodvd@gmail.com), 'cause attachment approval is usually a bit long.

@davidcw

it sounds a little OT: copyrighted material download and AviSynth script editing (http://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay.php?f=33)...

;)

Bye

Richardw322

14th September 2009, 23:09

OK I'll shoot it right off. Hope gmail accepts zip files!!

MrC

15th September 2009, 20:45

There is a problem with title 1: HCenc encoded only 50 seconds and then it stopped.

You can try following list:

- Verify the AVI file is not corrupted (does it play fine from beginning to end? You can use AVStoDVD Preview Clip to check)
- Retry the project (if you have not done yet)
- Try to force DirectShowSource instead of A2DSource (FIRST go to 'Preferences'/'Encoding'/'AVS Source Filter' and select 'DirectShowSource', THEN load your project)
- Use QuEnc instead of HCenc (FIRST load your project, then go to 'Title Edit'/'Video'/'Video Encoding Profile' and select 'QuEnc CBR 1-pass)

Let me know

;)

Bye

Richardw322

16th September 2009, 00:07

Darn, I never checked that one that!! The second one is the one with the "oddball fps, and I jumped straight to that. I am going to try all and see what happens. BTW, I checked in MPC-HC with both internal decoder and FFDshow, and it played well. Now we have a problem I tried to play it in Preview clip and I get audio and no video. Is that right? Tried a couple of the titles, same thing. No video, only audio. Is that normal?

Richardw322

16th September 2009, 02:00

Think I found the answer, at least I think so. I tried changing to directshow source first, and it came to 68700. The next file was at 80000, so I aborted. Changed back to default, and tried qenc, and the first title was only 1200!! Checked in Virtual Dub, and the first video has 68700 frames!! So the key was using directshow source. At least I think so. I just started the new encode and I'll know for sure when it writes the ISO.

Richardw322

18th September 2009, 21:45

OK, finally had a chance to tewst out the DVD. It worked great when I changed the source from A2D to Directshow. Any idea why? The first AVI acts just like the others in MPC-HC both with and without FFDshow, and virtual dub complained about the audio but nothing else. (Virtual Dub complaigns about the audio in every file I throw at it) Any ideas? I kepyt the log from the new run if it will help.

MrC

19th September 2009, 14:10

Well, just a guess. A2DSource tries first to use AVISource to open the file, if it fails it shifts to DirectShowSource and finally to FFMpegSource. Probably the first AVI (at least the beginning of it) goes thru AVISource but after 50 seconds it quits. Maybe a not properly encoded XviD.

You can confirm by selecting AVISource as default and then try to convert again the "problematic" XviD. Just to know, where did you get it?

;)

Bye

nozuul

19th September 2009, 22:36

Heya MrC!

Will the newest release of FFDShow affect your program at all? Latest version: r3078 2009-09-17 (Sep 17, 2009)

MrC

20th September 2009, 14:21

@noozul

really do not know. I usually download and use only ffdshow "stable" releases. Latest stable release is ffdshow_beta6_rev2527_20081219.exe (Dec 2008).

BTW, if you want to make a compatibility check, your effort will be surely appreciated

;)

Bye

Richardw322

20th September 2009, 14:29

Richardw322

20th September 2009, 14:31

carlmart

21st September 2009, 19:05

I have a DVD that was released in letterbox 4:3 AR NTSC. The original image is 1.66.

When I load it into AVStoDVD, in order to resize it to full 16:9 AR with black pillars on the sides, the program crops the image on all sides.

This is the script it suggests:

Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
Video = Video.ChangeFPS(25)
Video = Video.Spline16Resize(720,576,0,66,0,-66)

To start with I don't know why it's changing it to PAL, because the file is NTSC and I want to keep it that way.

Which is the proper way to load it and set the values?

MrC

21st September 2009, 20:24

@carlmart

1. If you selected PAL as default video standard, then any project will be set to follow PAL standards (resolution and framerate)

2. A 1.66 letterboxed to 4:3 DAR DVD should be kept as it is, without trying to force it as widescreen. Anyway if you want to force it, AVStoDVD by default will crop top and bottom to reach 16:9 proportion, as you have seen. If you want to have left and right black pillars, then you have to play with AviSynth:
- Crop() top/bottom
- Resize()
- AddBorders() left/right
- Resize() again

Check it out by yourself. If you are smart enough, you can have just one resize. Good scripting!

;)

Bye

carlmart

21st September 2009, 20:44

1. If you selected PAL as default video standard, then any project will be set to follow PAL standards (resolution and framerate)

Of course I am not selecting PAL. I go to Preferences > Audio/Video and deselected it there.

But I do have two descriptions for the file I am loading, which is an m2v demuxed from my DVD:

1) In Source/titles it's listed as 720x480 29.97.

2) In View/Edit Title settings is listed as 720 x 576 PAL. It doesn't matter is is I set as NTSC in Preferences.

Why is that?

2. A 1.66 letterboxed to 4:3 DAR DVD should be kept as it is, without trying to force it as widescreen.

Why would that be? At least I eliminate the horizontal bars, even if I keep the pillars. At least the latter are considerably smaller than if there's a 4:3 image inside my 16:9 plasma screen.

Anyway if you want to force it, AVStoDVD by default will crop top and bottom to reach 16:9 proportion, as you have seen. If you want to have left and right black pillars, then you have to play with AviSynth:
- Crop() top/bottom
- Resize()
- AddBorders() left/right
- Resize() again

Check it out by yourself. If you are smart enough, you can have just one resize. Good scripting!

I am trying to learn a way to compute that for less than 1.77 aspect ratios. Can you tell me how can I do it in one resize or tell me where to find that out?

Thanks!

Edit: just went have a look at another French film of mine I had also resized, with excellent results. The combo script used crop() and resize().

In my present case I ended up with:

Crop(0,44,0,-44)
Lanczos4Resize(720,480)

It looks very good.