AMD, Intel and Nvidia driver issues and last recommended version

[Klaus1189]

Does HDR auto switch of madVR work with Intel GPUs? I want to fiddle around/experiment with an Intel ARC :D

[ryrynz]

Does HDR auto switch of madVR work with Intel GPUs? I want to fiddle around/experiment with an Intel ARC :DLooks like you're the first [emoji23]
Report back ur findings.

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[aquanash]

No, not for me, but it could be a Game or program which could lead to this behavior. Check what game or program you started after it worked and before it didn't work anymore.

On both machines I didn't open any games (since last reboot) before it happened. I used basically only Chome and MPC-HC (latest clsid2 version) so I'm not sure what could trigger the issue. I wonder if the Win11 22H2 update could be the cause since I updated both machines recently also.

[Klaus1189]

I am still on Windows 10 on my main machine

[AuRiMaS666]

Hello everyone,

So, I'm also having this HDR passthrough randomly not working anymore problem. In addition to people a few pages back on this thread, I have found a few reports on AVSForum and Reddit (links below) as well. I've made a more detailed post about it in a link below.

I have moved to Win11 at the start of December, but I do remember this happening at least a couple of times while still on Win10, so it doesn't seem to be Win11 exclusive thing. Also another thing I noticed, that pretty much all people reporting in have RTX 30 series cards, if that matters in any capacity.

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/madvr-hdr-passthrough-shows-incorrect-colors-if-display-has-been-turned-off-requiring-reboot.3260442/

https://www.reddit.com/r/htpc/comments/zps4wb/hdr_passthrough_only_partly_working_sometimes/

https://www.reddit.com/r/htpc/comments/yt60h5/mpcbemadvrgeforce_rtx_3080_tiwindows_10_hdr/

[Klaus1189]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN_hDw7GrYA&t=1330s
The gloating smile on his face to make fun of Nvidia, Karma is a bitch:
ENGLISH: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Lxydc-3K8
GERMAN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2ggdOyzpYQ

[aquanash]

Also another thing I noticed, that pretty much all people reporting in have RTX 30 series cards, if that matters in any capacity.

I'm seeing the issue on my machine with a 10 series card also and it happens just as much as my other machine with a 30 series card. I don't think the issue is specific to a certain series. Both my machines are running Win11 22H2 and I didn't see the issue happen on either until recent nvidia driver and the Win11 22H2 updates. I updated both the driver and to Win11 22H2 (from Win11 21H2) at the same time on both so I'm not able to narrow down which one is the culprit. I may try downgrading the driver on one of them to see if it's the driver.

[Klaus1189]

22H2 can be Win 10 or Win 11. Please specify more.

[aquanash]

22H2 can be Win 10 or Win 11. Please specify more.

I updated my last post with more info to specify exactly which version of Windows I'm referring to. On both machines I went from Win11 21H2 to Win11 22H2 when the issue started. I also went from nvidia driver 516.93 to 527.56 on both at the same time I updated Windows. I just downgraded my series 10 machine back to 516.93 and will report back if I see the HDR passthrough issue happen again or not with the old driver on Win11 22H2.

[ryrynz]

Wouldn't surprise me if a proper DDU process fixed these HDR issues. I've had zero issues with the 3060 and W11.

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[Klaus1189]

Update for Vapor Chamber RX 7900 XT(X)
ENGLISH: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxaDZ6n2MNo
GERMAN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2clMKAxL1c

[Klaus1189]

Don't get me wrong, I got also one of these Reference RX 7900 series and it is fine. Hotspot is 78° C and only 12° C Delta. So it is fine. I don't want to bash AMD.

[Calvi]

7900…
Does deinterlacing work?
How does it perform with MadVR?

[Klaus1189]

Please wait :), too much other stuff I must do

[Calvi]

No, problem.

Also curious about HDR switching, 23Hz etc when you get a chance to test.

[Ejziponken]

I just tried the new 528.02 driver and I still get the HDR switching issue. Still fine once I go back to an older driver like the 522.25.

I watched a HDR movie with mpc+madvr and it was fine. After that I watched some SDR content and a few hours later I tried HDR content again and it wouldnt switch. Just like all the latest drivers.
I didnt even play any games today so its not a game that triggers the issue from what I can tell.

[Klaus1189]

Anybody has an RTX20 series card who is willing to test?
RTX30 series is affected.

[Klaus1189]

I test my 7900 XTX this week. Just chilling now from work and from sanitizing the third room in one week.

https://youtu.be/pQDnwpc_k4E

[Calvi]

Anybody has an RTX20 series card who is willing to test?
RTX30 series is affected.
I have this issue with RTX2070, Drivers >525.25.
I haven’t specifically tested 528.02 but take Ejziponken‘s word for it as symptoms are identical to previous drivers I tried.

[Calvi]

Wouldn't surprise me if a proper DDU process fixed these HDR issues. I've had zero issues with the 3060 and W11.

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I always DDU/Safemode every driver update.

The HDR switching can work for quite a while before it breaks.
I was showing someone SDR vs HDR and after viewing about 10 different videos it stopped switching.

No doubt it could also be something very specific causing it that you may not have. Be good to know what it is, it’s just time consuming to DDU and then test multiple files to try and replicate.

[aquanash]

The HDR switching issue is most definitely a bug in the newer nvidia drivers (>525.25 as Calvi pointed out) that is now confirmed on 10, 20 and 30 series cards (doesn't seem hardware specific). After I rolled back my 10 series machine to an old driver (516.93) the issue no longer happens after many days without a reboot and playing many SDR and HDR videos. I originally thought it may be related to the new Win11 22H2 update, but after downgrading the nvidia driver the issue went away, even with Win11 22H2.

I'm guessing a lot of people don't see this issue because they don't leave their machines running for days at a time. You'll never see the issue if you shutdown/reboot every couple days. I have to leave my machines running continuously for a few days before the bug is triggered, but this has never been an issue with older nvidia drivers (<=525.25).

[Calvi]

Exactly, my HTPC hibernates whenever we close Kodi so effectively (almost) never reboots.

[ryrynz]

I always DDU/Safemode every driver update.


I shutdown my pc after every use so could be that..

[Ejziponken]

The HDR switching issue is most definitely a bug in the newer nvidia drivers (>525.25 as Calvi pointed out) that is now confirmed on 10, 20 and 30 series cards (doesn't seem hardware specific). After I rolled back my 10 series machine to an old driver (516.93) the issue no longer happens after many days without a reboot and playing many SDR and HDR videos. I originally thought it may be related to the new Win11 22H2 update, but after downgrading the nvidia driver the issue went away, even with Win11 22H2.

I'm guessing a lot of people don't see this issue because they don't leave their machines running for days at a time. You'll never see the issue if you shutdown/reboot every couple days. I have to leave my machines running continuously for a few days before the bug is triggered, but this has never been an issue with older nvidia drivers (<=525.25).

I get the issue after just a few hours. So people should notice. :P

[Calvi]

I shutdown my pc after every use so could be that..

Maybe, would be good to know. I only watch typically 3 shows a night (and rarely more than 1 HDR) so if I shut down after each time probably wouldn’t trigger the issue myself.

Shame this bug has crept in as everything was improving nicely with new driver versions generally.

[ryrynz]

I upgraded to 528.02, didn't use any DDU in the process. Last night I saw two random black screens for a second or so, Ive switched back to 527.56.

[Klaus1189]

That are not good news :(

Too many issues right now.

I test my 7900 XTX today or tomorrow

[Ejziponken]

I switched over to mpv player and HDR seems to work with latest driver. Its a hassle to set up... But I guess Its worth it to be able to run the latest driver. Who knows when Nvidia/Madvr is gonna fix the issue.

[Klaus1189]

Kodi works for sure also

[mclingo]

Hi, i've been noticing some audio dropouts on my system recently, seem to be a similar issue to here where it mainly happens when connected to an AUDIO receiver, seem to be all 5700 series cards and possible 6000 too. I'm getting one of two momentary dropouts per movie, sometimes 3. I was getting none at all when using KODIDS/MADVR/bitstreaming but i've had one or two there now as well. I've tried a few things to resolve this but nothing works, seems to be an issue on a hardware level.

does anyone else have any issues with AMD 5000 / 6000 series cards connect to a receiver either using bitstreaming or just PCM?

I was going to pop and old AMD card in by the side of it and use the audio from that over HDMI but my motherboard doesnt seem to want to recognise a second card. Just have to hope they finally fix it with the 7000 series but I think its unlikely, i'd move to NVIDIA but the 3D fix looks unreliable and I've never managed to get 23,976 timings anywhere near good enough for me.

this seems to be the main thread on the issue:

https://community.amd.com/t5/graphics/rx5700-and-hdmi-sound-problem/td-p/308252?messageTarget=all&mode=comments&start=0

[SirMaster]

Hmm, I wish I had more info to contribute...

However I can say that I am on Windows 10, latest drivers with RTX 3080 and have had 0 issues with HDR passthrough and automatic switching between HDR and SDR via MPC-HC and madVR.

I have never seen an issue with it and I update to each new driver normally.

[Ejziponken]

Upgraded to win11. Still broken HDR switching. xD

[Klaus1189]

Exacty same or any different behavior?

[Klaus1189]

A bit late, but I finally found time to build together a rig from spare parts and I tested hardware deinterlacer of 7900 XTX and it works. But only when using DXVA2 not when using D3D11cb or D3D11. Hardware acceleration for SD MPEG 2 does not work, also not deinterlacing. But I must investigate it further. But not today, on some other day. Tired from work.

[aquanash]

I just found that restarting the nvidia display device after the HDR switching bug happens will also clear up the issue if you don't want to do a full reboot.

Unfortunately the Windows keyboard shotcut (win+ctrl+shift+b) doesn't clear it up, but if you restart the video card with the "pnputil" command line utility it will clear it up and HDR switching should work fine again for awhile without having to reboot.

If you want to try this workaround, first run this command to get the "Instance ID" of your nvidia display device:

pnputil /enum-devices /class Display

Then run the following command in a command prompt with admin rights, replacing <instance id> with your cards id, to restart it:

pnputil /restart-device "<instance id>"

Example:
pnputil /restart-device "PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1B80&SUBSYS_62863842&REV_A1\4&fa0c5&0&0008"

The restart command can be saved in a batch file if you want a quick way to run it. Just make sure it runs as administator by right clicking that bat file and selecting "Run as administator" or setup a shortcut to it that will run as admin automatically.

[Klaus1189]

What happened to latest AMD driver for 7900 series? I got an Email for 23.1.2, but I can not find the driver to download on offical site. I found a link on changlog site but not of product site.
Just curious, have a better Nvidia too, but strange ...

[AuRiMaS666]

I just found that restarting the nvidia display device after the HDR switching bug happens will also clear up the issue if you don't want to do a full reboot.

Unfortunately the Windows keyboard shotcut (win+ctrl+shift+b) doesn't clear it up, but if you restart the video card with the "pnputil" command line utility it will clear it up and HDR switching should work fine again for awhile without having to reboot.

If you want to try this workaround, first run this command to get the "Instance ID" of your nvidia display device:

pnputil /enum-devices /class Display

Then run the following command in a command prompt with admin rights, replacing <instance id> with your cards id, to restart it:

pnputil /restart-device "<instance id>"

Example:
pnputil /restart-device "PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1B80&SUBSYS_62863842&REV_A1\4&fa0c5&0&0008"

The restart command can be saved in a batch file if you want a quick way to run it. Just make sure it runs as administator by right clicking that bat file and selecting "Run as administator" or setup a shortcut to it that will run as admin automatically.

This is a golden tip for guys like me who hate doing full reboots, very grateful! Will make it much easier to deal with this while waiting for a fix, if it ever comes.

[mclingo]

it was there when I looked, have you tested the card yet, anything fixed?

[Klaus1189]

Yes, deinterlacer is frame adaptive. So much better than RX 5000 and 6000 series.
My 7900XTX is very strong, but so i my 4090 FE ;)

[mclingo]

interesting, I might look at a 7700XT when the finally come out.

[Betroz]

I am upgrading my computer soon and was wondering if Windows 10 still is better for MadVr use over Windows 11? Anyone tested the 528.49 WHQL driver?

[ryrynz]

I am upgrading my computer soon and was wondering if Windows 10 still is better for MadVr use over Windows 11? Anyone tested the 528.49 WHQL driver?

Nothing wrong with 11 and yes, just upgraded and it's working fine.

[huhn]

if you are not planning on using the beta version upgrading to win 11 could be the biggest mistake you could make.

depending on how lucky you are you may end up with a totally broken device page.

[Betroz]

if you are not planning on using the beta version upgrading to win 11 could be the biggest mistake you could make.

depending on how lucky you are you may end up with a totally broken device page.

Beta version of what?

[ryrynz]

Beta version of what?Beta tonemapping builds of MadVR. If you use the stable version it has a bug where devices keep being added on Windows 11 and you have to manually remove them at some point. Wasn't that big of a deal but if you want to use the stable then 10 would be less hassle.

[Betroz]

Beta tonemapping builds of MadVR. If you use the stable version it has a bug where devices keep being added on Windows 11 and you have to manually remove them at some point. Wasn't that big of a deal but if you want to use the stable then 10 would be less hassle.

That was new to me, but ~90% of my content are SDR. Well I will install Win11 and take a backup image with Acronis, so if I get any problems I can roll back. Or install Win10 again if things get really bad.

Too bad no new versions of MadVr will be coming out... So it is what it is.

[ryrynz]

They are being released, just nothing without a few month time limit on them. A quality of life bug fix build would be welcome but that could be years away if ever, I use the betas just for those fixes.

[Betroz]

They are being released, just nothing without a few month time limit on them. A quality of life bug fix build would be welcome but that could be years away if ever, I use the betas just for those fixes.

Sorry if I were unclear, but I was NOT talking about this MadVR hdr Measure program/add on. The lastest MadVr release v0.92.17 from 2018 is what I meant. But whatever, it works still so.

[ryrynz]

Sorry if I were unclear

These are new versions of madVR not the measurement program.

[Betroz]

These are new versions of madVR not the measurement program.

Are you trolling me...? On Madvr.com v0.92.17 is the newest.