AMD, Intel and Nvidia driver issues and last recommended version [Archive] - Page 53

el Filou

29th June 2021, 13:57

Does anyone have any updates on DXVA2 deinterlacing support on recent AMD cards? Is it still broken? Have there been reports with the 6000 series cards (IIRC only owners of RX 5700 gave reports)?

With nevcairiel possibly removing CUVID in a future LAV version and madVR support of D3D11 VP probably never happening, I'm considering upgrading to an AMD card instead of NVIDIA to keep best quality for 1080i (when prices become reasonable again), but it would be no use if their deinterlacing is still broken in DXVA2.

EDIT: Oh, I forgot about Intel. Maybe when they release their 'high-performance' dGPU. Does Intel work good in DXVA2 deinterlacing with madVR?

huhn

29th June 2021, 14:08

in the past intel worked very good.

5700 XT deint is still utterly broken currently it's just weaving for the most part with madVR this is the worse it ever has been.

Grimsdyke

29th June 2021, 19:04

I am thinking about building a new HTPC with the upcoming AMD 5700G or 5700GE. Is refresh rate adjusting with CRU and/or MadVR working on AMD right now ? Thanks.

huhn

30th June 2021, 04:16

yes should work else you can just use the driver.

beware they are vega with most likely dated decoder.

NoTechi

30th June 2021, 09:53

5700 XT deint is still utterly broken currently it's just weaving for the most part with madVR this is the worse it ever has been.

As a I own a 5700XT what would be your advice for settings (madvr/lav,..) to mitigate the broken deint (beside buying a different gpu :p)

NoTechi

huhn

30th June 2021, 10:34

buy a new GPU.

lavfilter with copyback decoder or software with yadif.

Grimsdyke

30th June 2021, 12:03

beware they are vega with most likely dated decoder.

Yes, I know - but I am hoping to just upgrade the system then with a RDNA2 APU (hopefully also with PCI 4.0-support) on AM4 sometime in late 2022 or 23.
Assumed that AMD keeps supporting AM4 for a few more years.

NoTechi

30th June 2021, 13:15

buy a new GPU.

lavfilter with copyback decoder or software with yadif.

:thanks:

huhn

30th June 2021, 14:54

Yes, I know - but I am hoping to just upgrade the system then with a RDNA2 APU (hopefully also with PCI 4.0-support) on AM4 sometime in late 2022 or 23.
Assumed that AMD keeps supporting AM4 for a few more years.

AM4 is dead this should be the last series of CPU for it.
maybe a refresh. not saying that there isn't going to be a RDNA2 APU with zen 3 but that's the best you can hope for and the CPU just like with intel is over kill.

AM5 with drr5 is pretty much confirmed.

SoySauceWDF

1st July 2021, 05:39

I've got a weird issue using madvr that's been happening for a while. If I pause or sometimes randomly during playback, the render queue drops to 3-4/8 and I start getting dropped frames. It fills up if I backup a little bit and start playing again. I've messed with queue sizes, vsync, present frames in advance, etc, almost every setting I could think of.
Running windowed with D3D11, output in sdr bt.2020 and 10 bit, display set to 12 bit. Happened on both my 2080 ti and 3090, latest drivers. Wondering if its an issue with nvidia outputting 12 bit?

VBB

2nd July 2021, 04:24

https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5212?linkId=100000052818903

GeForce Hotfix display driver version 471.22 is based on our latest Game Ready Driver 471.11.

The hotfix addresses the following issue:

Doom Eternal may crash to desktop during gameplay [3331270]
League of Legends [Tencent] may fail to launch [200744747]
Mouse cursor color may shift when connected to certain DSC monitors in HDR mode [200741796]
[HDMI 2.1][8K] HDMI audio playback may become distorted after changing display modes [3268312]
Some displays screen resolution limited to 640x480 after driver update [3330750]

SamuriHL

19th July 2021, 17:14

So wish I had a video card to use it on. Thanks, nVidia. :rolleyes:

Klaus1189

19th July 2021, 20:00

Anybody else has trouble with new Nvidia driver when using 120 Hz refresh rate? Aspect ratio ...

SamuriHL

19th July 2021, 21:08

nVidia RMA'd my 2070. There's hope yet that I can get my HTPC working again.

What kind of problems? I have a GSync screen on my Alienware with my 2080. Not seeing any issues at 144hz.

nevcairiel

19th July 2021, 21:26

Fine at 144Hz GSYNC here as well, or 120Hz 4K on the TV.

huhn

20th July 2021, 04:37

240 freesync and 120/144 are working as usual.

Asmodian

20th July 2021, 05:13

Anybody else has trouble with new Nvidia driver when using 120 Hz refresh rate? Aspect ratio ...

Do you have "Adjust desktop size and position" set to perform scaling on GPU? If I do it messes up the aspect ratio even if I set it to no scaling, I have to set it to perform scaling on Display.

It works normally at 60 Hz. :p

Klaus1189

20th July 2021, 15:54

Do you have "Adjust desktop size and position" set to perform scaling on GPU? If I do it messes up the aspect ratio even if I set it to no scaling, I have to set it to perform scaling on Display.

It works normally at 60 Hz. :p

Thank you. That is exactly what I had to do. But why is this on 100Hz and higher?

Klaus1189

20th July 2021, 16:06

I don't get it. I played around with these settings and now it is also fine with "GPU" selected. Very strange.

EDIT: never mind, it ist squished a bit then.

Shinobu

26th July 2021, 12:37

Hello.
I use Win10 + Core i7-3770 + NvGTX960 + 8go ram + SSD + MPC-HC + Madvr as my HTPC.
It's connected to an epson 2700w.

Nevermind the settings i use in mpc nor the setting in nv driver, i got random micro stutter.

If i use software/cuvid/dvxa... in lavfilter, it's the same

No frame drop/dup/presentation in madvr information.

Thoses stutter are most of time not showing, but in slow smooth travelling it's realy distrubing.

Same in 23.976fps or 47.952fps.
I use 47.952fps with S.V.P frame double to get the best possible result and it's looking great but the stutter are even more visible (there's not more stutter but as the travelling are way smoother with S.V.P the stutter are even more distrubing)

I've logged cpu/gpu/ram/hard drive (ssd) usage and no bottleneck too and madvr control pannel never show frame drop/dup

Any suggestions ?

Thanks a lot ^^

Found a solution !!!
Hope it could help other user.
I tryied tons of settings, drivers version, cpu/gpu clock, projector setting, full windows installation (2 differents versions).... nothing was working.
Then i tryied to "kill" all background process one by one to try to found a culprit..... and i found the culprit, it's the "NVDisplay.Container.exe"

To properly kill this process the only way i found was to renamme the exe in "NVDisplay.Container.exe.old", then rename the Display.NvContainer folder in Display.NvContainer.old to avoid the NVDisplay.Container.exe to self restaure.

Of course i don't have accès to nv control pannel anymore, but at least not a single micro stutter in 5 full movies ^^

So if you have a dedicated pc for your movies , give it a try ^^

Calvi

26th July 2021, 14:41

You can just disable the service - NVIDIA Display Container LS.

doffen

26th July 2021, 17:39

What does this service do?

ryrynz

26th July 2021, 19:44

What does this service do?Basically telemetry. You should report this to Nvidia they've had problems with this service before affecting system performance.

el Filou

29th July 2021, 14:38

Well, thanks for the idea @Shinobu! I've been having small hiccups (like a few frames) for quite some time but not showing any pattern wrt format or container, and it was totally random: if I skipped backwards the drop didn't happen at the same timestamp.
The difference is my drops were showing in the stats, as I could see the decoding queue of madVR get lower, so one workaround I had found was to set it to 32 but it was causing other problems, but after seeing your message I tried disabling the NVIDIA service and whadayaknow, no drops anymore! :eek:

I have no idea how I would report this as I can't even reproduce it deterministically, it doesn't even happen on all videos.

Shinobu

29th July 2021, 20:28

Same here, it was realy random.
Cool that it helped you ^^

Tiraga

30th July 2021, 12:10

Hi. I follow this thread a long time now but got a bit confused recently about which drivers to us for my different setups. Maybe you can help me.

1. Setup: LG OLED 65B8 Kodi DS-Player with MADVR Beta 113 on a GTX 1650 using driver 456.38 if i get it right there is no benefit in a newer or older driver or am i’am wrong? I still need the old audiodriver with this one?

2. Setup: JVC DLA-X500 Kodi DS-Player with MADVR Beta 113 on a GT1030 using driver 385.28 at the moment and wonder if i could use for example 451.48 to get the better 23p handling or should i stay at my current driver?

What Windows Version is the best to use currently?

el Filou

2nd August 2021, 12:56

I don't use HDR but seeing as nobody has answered your question...

1. You only need an old HDMI audio driver if you have issues with a newer one, like if you switch between outputting to a display in stereo and an AVR in multichannel or other stuff like that.
2. Old video drivers are only needed if you either need 3D (reportedly there are ways to hack newer drivers but I don't follow that) or need the old HDR switching behaviour.
3. Windows 10 20H1(2004)/20H2/21H1 is fine (it's all the same version architecturally).

Anyone please correct me if I said something wrong.

aufkrawall

6th August 2021, 16:33

Same here, it was realy random.
Cool that it helped you ^^
There are, once again, reports that _NvTopps.dll, which is loaded by NVDisplay.Container.exe, causes weird write to disk activities by that process. Maybe this is causing your issue and it's enough to just delete this particular DLL (there are also telemetry and auto driver profile updater DLLs, which one might find expendable too...).

el Filou

11th August 2021, 13:13

Once again NVIDIA released security fixes in some driver version, and only documented them in the release notes of the next driver released 3 weeks later, I wish they'd stop doing that. :mad:

SamuriHL

12th August 2021, 15:04

And I wish their stupid 2070 cards would stop dying on me but here we are. Got my replacement. Worked for 2 weeks. Dead...again. SIGH

huhn

12th August 2021, 15:52

this sounds more like your PSU is on a killing spree.

Asmodian

12th August 2021, 18:46

Have you monitored your Memory Junction Temperature, as reported by HWiNFO? Some OEMs are not cooling the memory well enough. :(

Edit: Oops, that is only on the GDDR6X GPUs, it shouldn't be an issue on the 3070s (or 2070!).

These GPUs do have high power spikes, so power supplies need to be more robust, but I am still thinking 3000 series. :o

SamuriHL

12th August 2021, 21:40

I have an evga gold 800 watt PSU so that shouldn't be the issue. However at this point anything is possible. I pull the card and the system runs completely fine. The same exact issue happened 3 times now....watching a movie with madvr, I get graphics glitches, and the machine hard locks. After that it no workie until I pull the card. The first time was in a different machine right after I got the card and they replaced it. The second time was a little over a month ago and they replaced it again. And it just did it again a couple nights ago. I've not spoken to nVidia but I can't think they're going to accept yet another RMA at this point. Who knows. I'm annoyed enough about it that I don't even want to deal with it at the moment. I've got other real world things going on at the moment that require more attention unfortunately.

SamuriHL

12th August 2021, 21:42

ashlar42

12th August 2021, 23:31

And to top it off, since this is the driver thread, I can't get the 9900k Intel GPU to work in HDR. It doesn't recognize that my TV is HDR compliant and windows doesn't show the option to enable HDR. Just awesome.
Wow... a virtual hug for you. I shudder at reading about all your problems. When my HTPC doesn't work properly I feel bad throughout the day until I solve stuff.

ryrynz

13th August 2021, 00:11

this sounds more like your PSU is on a killing spree.Yeah that was my thoughts too.. bit rough. Feel for u bro.

SamuriHL

13th August 2021, 01:08

I'll get it worked out eventually. Right now I don't have time or money to mess with it. I'm dropping a pretty coin on a new ductless mini split HVAC system for the house and I'm trying to get everything ready for the installers. A month from now when that's (hopefully) done, I'll get back to dealing with this irritating problem. I'll use the SHIELD for now. At least the machine is running as my plex server for now. I may re-setup my bedroom's SHIELD as an alternative plex server until this HTPC nightmare is fixed. I rule out nothing at this point, though. The PSU would break my heart as that thing's been ROCK solid since I got it. However, ANY issue with components right now sucks because pretty much nothing is easy to get. I'd love to upgrade to a 3080, but, ummmmm, yea, I'm not paying scalping prices. Especially right now.

ryrynz

13th August 2021, 01:25

I bought a MSI Trident 3 with a 3060 for MadVR and it's slightly faster than the 1080 Ryzen 7 system I had before. Less than half the size of my previous PC. Have decided to switch to Smooth Motion and 60Hz to improve panning scenes, was hoping to have a 120Hz set when I did this but that'll come eventually. A bit sad about the state of madVR right now with no real updates to speak of. Was getting some stuttering when jumping through films but I think the sleep options help here need to look into it, did need to drop frames ahead to 1 like everyone else to have things playing smoothly. Updated to 20H2 as well and operating in HDR which 1809 couldn't do.

aquanash

18th August 2021, 22:58

Was getting some stuttering when jumping through films but I think the sleep options help here need to look into it, did need to drop frames ahead to 1 like everyone else to have things playing smoothly.

After upgrading from nvidia 10 to 30 series, I was having occasional micro stuttering issues (with v-sync forced on) and tried many different combinations of "windowed mode" frames ahead and gpu flush settings without any luck. In most cases the issue was even worse. The thing I finally found to fix all my issues was disabling Multiplane Overlay Support (MPO) in the Windows registry. HDR only works in full screen with MPO disabled, but that's ok with me and matches the behavior I had with the 10 series card (MPO is not supported and disabled pre-20 series).

With MPO disabled, I can run madVR with the default rendering settings and all default nvidia driver settings on my 30 series card without any micro stuttering or other issues. I'm running 21H1 with latest patches and the latest nvidia driver (471.68). I also used DDU and NVCleanstall to install only the base graphics driver without telemetry and other bloat that others have reported may cause micro stuttering, but MPO was the real culprit in my case.

Here's the nvida support site link with registry patches to disable/enable MPO (make sure to reboot after changing the registry setting):

https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5157

ryrynz

18th August 2021, 23:05

Luckily I haven't had to do that. Things are working perfectly here with a small change to flush settings and keeping frames rendered in advance to 1. Quite impressed with getting almost the same results as the 1080 with the 3060 with barely any noise. I keep the card limited to about 40% load to achieve this, things should improve a touch I think after I upgrade to faster dual channel RAM.

aufkrawall

26th August 2021, 14:17

did need to drop frames ahead to 1 like everyone else to have things playing smoothly.
Works fine with default prerender of 8 here with MPO off on RTX 3060. The MPO fix is now more ore less promised for next driver branch...

ryrynz

27th August 2021, 02:10

Works fine with default prerender of 8 here with MPO off on RTX 3060. The MPO fix is now more ore less promised for next driver branch...Haven't noticed any obvious problems with it enabled, was a couple of areas where things felt slightly less smooth while watching last night so I might turn it off just to see if anything improves until the new branch is released but overall very happy with the way things are looking so far

VictorLS

28th August 2021, 21:24

Guys with powerfull computers - test please my record of TURKSAT_8K channel from 42e SAT https://www.flysat.com/8k.php 20210828_0434 FTS-12605V CrazyScan.TS (1 GB, 1min13s) https://transfiles.ru/jqn13 - is audio and video synced until the end of file (played smoothly)? I get only ~1min well audio then silence or stuttering sound (because audio plays faster than video) MPC MPEG Splitter some better than LAV Splitter - old records from that 8K channel are played with well audio in many minutes...

huhn

28th August 2021, 22:30

the file plays fine with nvidia hardware decode even on old pascal cards.

software decoding should be ignore for 8k just the transfer to the GPU is to much.

VictorLS

28th August 2021, 22:40

huhn
Thanks (I guess Pascal-based beginning on GTX1050Ti with minimum 4GB RAM), so my GTX750 GM206 Maxwell-based videocard can't hardware decoding of 8K I used MPCVideoDec_skip_non_I-frames.7z (7,2 МБ) https://disk.yandex.ru/d/ZBA-K2-6UUV4TQ and with it I watched slideshow with normal audio directly from SAT in many minutes but now it isn't work - it seems bandwidth has increased - I'll check it.