AMD, Intel and Nvidia driver issues and last recommended version

[ryrynz]

That seems, you know, bad.

"May" is the important part here. Just install & live dangerously eh?

[huhn]

that's a good thing the issue is most likely older and part of older driver acknowledging it is just the start to get it fixed.

[nevcairiel]

People have been reporting issues with Atmos before, this is definitely not new to this driver - issues rarely are new when they start showing up in the list, they just started tracking them then.
They also rarely affect everyone.

[SamuriHL]

As long as they fix it. And of course I'll install it and live dangerously. Lol

Sent from my SM-G998U1 using Tapatalk

[huhn]

you may add this information in the notes.

d3d9 overlay rendering broke in ~479 and was removed in 511 as a "fix" at least on pascal.

[mclingo]

HI, as some of you know there is an issue with the EVR renderer where it outputs wrong colour space so you have use a filter when watching SDR material to convert 16.235 to 0-255, it has been suggested this is an AMD driver issue but why does MADVR not have this issue if it is?

is this the same issue as reported on the PDF and if so is it really a driver issue if other renderers are working fine?



Color levels (full 0-255 vs. limited 16-235) are broken. That means limited 16-235 which is the
standard range for videos are interpreted as 0-255 and this leads to elevated blacks and dimm
whites.
This issue can be best seen on displays which want full range 0-255, like TVs in PC Mode (PC
mode for full 4:4:4/RGB support, so you do not use color subsampling like 4:2:2 or 4:2:0)
Also overriding the range for test purposes in MPC-BE (video tab -> Output range) does not
take effect.

[huhn]

because madVR isn't a DXVA2 video renderer it nearly for sure even ask for limited range when DXVA2 is used so the issue will not happen.

[mclingo]

yes bu that means MADVR is doing something differently and so maybe not an AMD driver issue per sey, or at least its the EVR renderer which needs to be updated or changed?

[nevcairiel]

EVR uses the drivers video processing capabilities, other renderers usually try to avoid that because its often low quality and troublesome. So if EVR misbehaves, its typically the drivers video processing screwing something up.

[mclingo]

EVR uses the drivers video processing capabilities, other renderers usually try to avoid that because its often low quality and troublesome. So if EVR misbehaves, its typically the drivers video processing screwing something up.

ah right, I understand now. Thanks :)

[Klaus1189]

you may add this information in the notes.

d3d9 overlay rendering broke in ~479 and was removed in 511 as a "fix" at least on pascal.

OK, I add this, but I can not find 479.XX, maybe you mean this one: 497.29 2021-12-20 only DCH available!

Should I use the first 511.XX, which would be 511.09 2022-01-04 first SD which is only available as DCH!
Or the first GRD: 511.23 2022-01-14

These is not a single driver between these two. I need this info, so I can do it right.

[huhn]

466.77 broken
477.12 broken
496.49 feature disabled
512.15 feature disabled

it will test a couple older driver soon but they may work form time to time because i'm pretty sure 466 worked in the past.

[Klaus1189]

466.77 broken
477.12 broken
496.49 feature disabled
512.15 feature disabled

it will test a couple older driver soon but they may work form time to time because i'm pretty sure 466 worked in the past.

472.12 perhaps? I added it to 472.12
If it is wrong, please let me know.

[pirlouy]

For those who know, is it possible to send audio only with HDMI (without dual monitors, just a fake image) with latest drivers/OS or is it planned ?

[JaylumX]

For those who know, is it possible to send audio only with HDMI (without dual monitors, just a fake image) with latest drivers/OS or is it planned ?

If you are using an Nvidia card then the short answer is yes.

Long answer to give you an explanation, is I connect my Nvidia RTX to my Panasonic soundbar using a displayport to hdmi adapter (passive). As long as you install the Nvidia HD audio drivers that are supplied with the graphics drivers, the Nvidia card will send audio to the soundbar be it 7.1 LPCM or bitstreaming Atmos or DTS X.

The soundbar will register like a second display and the mouse will extend there so the solution is to align the "soundbar" display (virtual) diagonally so that it does not span to it.

I am sure the process is similar for AMD and Intel Graphics cards.

Does that answer your question?

[pirlouy]

Well, not really. I hoped with time Windows/OEM would find a solution where you would not need "dual monitors".
"Dual monitors" comes with some drawbacks.
I know the real culprit is HDMI which can't do what SCART was able to do (video or audio or both) but I hoped Windows 11 and GPU OEM would find a solution. Disappointing.

[Klaus1189]

@pirlouy:
What do you want to achieve exactly?

[mclingo]

anyone else noticed rendering corruption and audio dropouts in recent AMD drivers with EVR and MPC renderer, mainly when using MPC-BE / HC, some movies wont play at all unless I change to D3D11 cb but I then go dreadful audio dropouts, some movies just show corruption when skipping through scenes, AMD drivers seems to be a total mess at the moment for HTPC users, oddly, and thankfully MADVR + LAV + KODI DS has no problems whatsoever which is my main player.

Starting to think about a move to NVIDIA but no native 3D / 23,976 has always put me off, if they break something with my main player then i'm defo going green, I had enough problems with 3D when it was supported with NVIDIA cars, cant image its any better now using a workaround?

additional:

not sure when the video corruption started, I cant really be arsed to install one driver after another to find out which one it started with, all I know right now is I moved back to 20.4.1 and that doesnt have the corruption issue, this driver is quite old though.

You will however only see this with EVR and MPC renderer with certain videos, I'm not even sure if its a certain type of encode.

[QBhd]

ZERO problems here with AMD. PotPlayer+madVR+LAV

Not sure why anyone with a modern computer needs to use anything other than software decoding

QB

[mclingo]

Hi, is it possible to get pot player to act a bit more like MPC, double clickanywhere on screen maximse / minmise and one click to pause?

[pirlouy]

@pirlouy:
What do you want to achieve exactly?
1)
Plug a TV to PC with HDMI
Plug AV receiver to PC with HDMI
-> Play sound on AV receiver and image on TV WITHOUT DUAL MONITORS (in Windows > Display settings or GPU Drivers Control Panel)
And obviously I don't want to use the HDMI out from AV receiver.

2)
Plug a monitor to PC with Display Port (for example)
Plug AV receiver to PC with HDMI
-> Play sound on AV receiver and image on Monitor WITHOUT DUAL MONITORS

Rest assured it's not a mad demand. It has been asked for years from various people. I was hoping it would come with years.

[huhn]

ZERO problems here with AMD. PotPlayer+madVR+LAV

Not sure why anyone with a modern computer needs to use anything other than software decoding

QB

ok how do i get it to deint.

at this point i take this personal.
and while i'm at it how do i disable the video processing for web browser?

[JaylumX]

1)
Plug a TV to PC with HDMI
Plug AV receiver to PC with HDMI
-> Play sound on AV receiver and image on TV WITHOUT DUAL MONITORS (in Windows > Display settings or GPU Drivers Control Panel)
And obviously I don't want to use the HDMI out from AV receiver.

2)
Plug a monitor to PC with Display Port (for example)
Plug AV receiver to PC with HDMI
-> Play sound on AV receiver and image on Monitor WITHOUT DUAL MONITORS

Rest assured it's not a mad demand. It has been asked for years from various people. I was hoping it would come with years.

I see what you mean. I only recently started doing what you described above but with a soundbar and I found it annoying that the soundbar showed up as a monitor and my mouse kept on spanning there. You are righting in thinking why there has not been a solution for it.

I did try an app to prevent mouse spanning to next display but it was just simpler to arrange both displays diagonally without the app.

I also tried duplicating displays which actually worked and got rid of the dual monitor issue but I found out I could not use HDR. My guess is that it duplicates to the lowest display so for my my soundbar uses HDMI 2.0 and my display is 2.1.

I hope there is a solution for this annoying problem.

[el Filou]

For those who know, is it possible to send audio only with HDMI (without dual monitors, just a fake image) with latest drivers/OS or is it planned ?A long time ago (I don't remember exactly, but something like two/three years I think) I opened an improvement suggestion on Insider Hub for exactly this (using secondary display interfaces and their hardware features but without them being included in the user desktop), without much hope of achieving anything with MS being MS, and to my surprise they actually added it *but* concluded this is something only professionnals need (e.g. doctors using a pro app that displays radio scans on a secondary display), and so they restricted this feature to Windows for Workstations... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[pirlouy]

Too bad but nice try though ! :)

[CZ Eddie]

I'm on the driver below with my new RTX and 4K60.
I'm using DisplayPort for the first time and finding I cannot get Full Range 0-255. It's only allowing me Limited Range color.
Is this normal for DisplayPort or an issue with the driver (or cable)?

512.15-desktop-win10-win11-64bit-international-dch-whql.exe

Works fine at 1080P, it just greys out the Output Dynamic Range with 4K60.
Switch from DisplayPort to HDMI and it works fine.

ATMOS and 4k60 passes through the DisplayPort so I'm not understanding why the dynamic range is getting greyed out.

[huhn]

passive DP to hdmi can only do about 9 gbit/s close to HDMI 1.4.
or with other words because it can't do more to do it in RGB so with full range it would need double the bandwidth like present on HDMI 2.0 or native DP 1.2.

there are active DP to HDMI converter but they a bit iffy.
GPU with 2 HDMI connector are not that rare just make sure they also have the HDMI version you want.

[el Filou]

:confused:
But full range and limited range only change the reference values used for black/white, the video bandwidth used is the same in both cases.

[huhn]

it using YCbCr 4:2:0 which is allways limited.

[SamuriHL]

Figures. I have my HTPC's disconnected at the moment awaiting a TV upgrade. I'll update them all later tonight I guess.

[Klaus1189]

I added some stuff to first page, so it hopefully shows up in internet searches.
If you have anything to add, please let me know, I am ready for more.

[ryrynz]

Awaiting a tv upgrade.

LG G2 77" OLED

:eek:

[SamuriHL]

LG G2 77" OLED

:eek:

Yup. Hanging on the wall. It's gorgeous.

[nevcairiel]

I couldn't fit 77" in my current place, hence I only got the G1 in 65" last year, but smaller place also means sitting closer, so its still quite an experience.

[SamuriHL]

The C8 got moved to my bedroom. And the G2 is in my living room. Both are mounted to an echogear that pulls out 22" from the wall. :D

[*MidnightWatcher*]

Haven't visited in a long time. What the latest consensus regarding which Win10 driver for the RTX 2070S works best with madVR? :thanks:

[ryrynz]

What's the latest consensus

Everything's been good for a while now. There is nothing that's any better than the rest so just go with the latest that works for your setup.

[lazostat]

Is version 496.49 ok for madvr and hdr or should i install a newer version? I don't understand from your PDF list what is the latest recommended version.

[Klaus1189]

No issues in recent Nvidia drivers, just install latest one ;)

[SamuriHL]

I'll throw it on my 3080 later as I have a new movie coming shortly that I'll be watching tonight.

[Selur]

Installed GeForce Game Ready-Drivers Version: 516.40 with the result that my main display (5k HP27z) didn't work any more, going back to NVIDIA Studio-Drivers 516.96 display works again.

[Klaus1189]

Thanks for feedback :)

[Sunspark]

Not sure if this counts as an Intel driver issue or a hardware issue, but I have discovered that on my old monitor setting a CVT-RB2 timing manually will work for everything EXCEPT HDCP as used by Amazon. The outcome will be a black screen requiring a power off. All the other timing standards work.

Curious, changing 2 of the 4 polarities combos works.

H V
+ + = Works
- - = FAILS HDCP
+ - = FAILS HDCP (also refresh rate slightly higher than the other 3)
- + = Works

[Sunspark]

This is definitely some kind of Intel issue IMO..

I was able to get the refresh rate I was after using CRU. Restart the computer, no problem. Power the computer on from shutdown, no problem. Change to another resolution/refresh and then return to the defined one, no problem.

Sleep mode and then wake the computer, it LOSES the original defined 60 Hz resolution and switches to 59.876 and switching to another resolution/refresh doesn't resolve the issue.

The only fix is to run CRU's restart64.exe to restart the graphics driver, restart the computer, or never let it sleep.

This is one of the odder bugs I've run into.. why would waking up from sleep mode cause a refresh rate issue where it doesn't resume as it was?

[el Filou]

So much stuff can go wrong in drivers.
One driver for my old Radeon would make DXVA hang after resuming from sleep, which would freeze all media players but also web browsers on any page containing video i.e. nearly all of them nowadays.

[brazen1]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/f1-22-rtxon-game-ready-driver/
https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/190552/en-us/

Nvidia GeForce 516.59 WHQL graphics driver released.

FYI, this driver creates noise when windowed for every video format video for me. Fullscreen is fine. I've never experienced anything like this before. I did not try installing it twice but I didn't do anything different than any other driver upgrade. Fwiw, I used DDU as usual. I installed a previous driver and all works fine again. YMMV.

[SamuriHL]

What does "creates noise" mean?

[brazen1]

Speckles all over the screen including black bars.

[huhn]

did you check the signal type send it may have reset.

[Noobius]

TrueHD or DTS-HD MA seems not to work at 23hz or 24hz at all regardless of MadVR so the NVIDIA drivers must be broken?

Any player I use at 23hz or 24hz refresh rates gives an error "audio device not found 0x8889000f".

My old GTX 970 worked fine no issues :/.


I tried all the latest driver versions, same issue.
Not related to mediaplayer either - all crash at 23h or 24hz and all play TrueHD without issue with higher refresh rate.

I wan 23.976hz playback with TrueHD.

Any advice?