AMD, Intel and Nvidia driver issues and last recommended version

[ryrynz]

What a mess.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-disable-automatic-driver-updates-windows-10

[oldpainlesskodi]

So, still no fix in sight for the AMD Navi cards not sending the BT2020 flag.....

[Fandangos]

Hi everyone,

I'm the developer of the Kodi HDR Edition and I'm trying for quite sometime to fix the Ryzen bug that does not send the BT2020 flag.
I have a RX 550 here that I use for testing and with this gpu everything is correct.

The user _DMU_ has been of great help and tested several builds without any changes.
The entire metadata is passed perfectly, Red X and Y, Blue X and Y, Green X and Y, White X and Y, min Master, max Master, max FALL, max CLL, the HDR flag is triggered and it stays at RGB and not RGB BT.2020.

So I was looking at my TV EDID and it is a Sony X905E, corresponding model in the US is X900E I believe.
Which is HDMI 2.0 level B.

For everyone suffering with this problem, can you post a picture of the EDID capture of the colorimetry and if HDMI 2.0 support shows up in your EDID when capturing data with Custom Resolution Utility?

Here's the colorimetry of my TV for reference.
https://ibb.co/dGvtKk4

It shows 600mhz and HDMI 2.0 support.

I want to exclude that this is not a display problem because on the software side, there's nothing much else I can do using AMD AGS API.

[oldpainlesskodi]

Mine shows HDMI 2 support, and, same here, HDR is triggered, but the TV reports RGB Colour space, but when using the Win HDR Toggle, the set reports the colour space as BT2020.

https://ibb.co/DYxvCDB

[Fandangos]

Thanks for trying.

I've compiled the AGS Sample that will output some information gathered by the AMD driver, if you can give this exe a go:
https://mega.nz/#!LUsk0KzK!hVcfg1ki4Qu_XrLVNHPIm9EBDhmv_6zmz9orPkajYIA

Source code is here:
https://github.com/GPUOpen-LibrariesAndSDKs/AGS_SDK/tree/master/ags_sample

As I was explaining in the Kodi HDR thread, I could add an automatic way to trigger the Windows HDR switch to ON when playback starts and off when it ends but it comes with a caveat.
When we do this it will revert movie playback from 23hz to 60hz.
The only other way around this for my fork is adding a shortcut that the user would have to press prior to starting the video to toggle this switch on, this would cause correct colors as BT.2020 would be sent.

Still I would like to find the cause of this bug to avoid such solution.

[oldpainlesskodi]

Does the program create a log for me to share? or an image? if so, let me know where - happy to assist.

Screenshot of results:

https://ibb.co/3v1xR0M

[Fandangos]

Does the program create a log for me to share? or an image? if so, let me know where - happy to assist.

Screenshot of results:

https://ibb.co/3v1xR0M

Just run it, click on the left corner of the command pront, edit, select all.
Again into edit and copy, paste it here.

EDIT: Can you run it with windows HDR enabled and disabled?

[oldpainlesskodi]

Display Device: 0: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, \\.\DISPLAY1 (primary)
Display Device: 1: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, \\.\DISPLAY2 [disabled]
Display Device: 2: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, \\.\DISPLAY3 [disabled]
Display Device: 3: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, \\.\DISPLAY4 [disabled]
Display Device: 4: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, \\.\DISPLAY5 [disabled]
Display Device: 5: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, \\.\DISPLAY6 [disabled]
Display Device: 6: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, \\.\DISPLAY7 [disabled]
Display Device: 7: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, \\.\DISPLAY8 [disabled]

Driver check could not determine the driver version for 18.8.randombetadriver
Driver check shows the installed 18.8.123randomdriver driver is newer or the same as the 18.8.2 required version
Driver check shows the installed 18.9.randomdriver driver is newer or the same as the 18.8.2 required version
Driver check shows the installed 18.8.2 driver is newer or the same as the 18.8.2 required version
Driver check shows the installed 18.8.2 driver is newer or the same as the 18.8.1 required version
Driver check shows the installed 18.8.2 driver is older than the 18.8.3 required version


AGS Library initialized: v5.4.0
Is *not* WACK compliant for use in UWP apps
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Radeon Software Version: 20.1.3
Driver Version: 19.50.15.01-200117a1-351045E-RadeonSoftwareAdrenalin2020
-----------------------------------------------------------------

---------- Device 0 [primary], AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT
Vendor id: 0x1002 (AMD)
Device id: 0x731F
Revision id: 0x00C1

Architecture: RDNA, 40 CUs, 20 WGPs, 64 ROPs
core clock 1755 MHz, memory clock 1750 MHz
9.0 Tflops
local memory: 7805 MBs (437.5 GB/s), shared memory: 8150 MBs


Eyefinity not enabled on this device

---------- Display 0 [primary]----------------------------------------
device name: \\.\DISPLAY1
monitor name: AV Receiver

Max resolution: 3840 x 2160, 60.0 Hz
Current resolution: 3840 x 2160, Offset (0, 0), 60.0 Hz
Visible resolution: 3840 x 2160, Offset (0, 0)

chromaticity red: 0.065600, 0.034000
chromaticity green: 0.032000, 0.062400
chromaticity blue: 0.015600, 0.005600
chromaticity white point: 0.000000, 0.000000

luminance: [min, max, avg] 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000
screen reflectance diffuse 0.000000
screen reflectance specular 0.000000

HDR10 supported
Dolby Vision supported

logical display index: 12
ADL adapter index: 0


-----------------------------------------------------------------
Primary Display detected
Display name: x
Device name:
DisplayFlags: 0

done

[oldpainlesskodi]

Win HDR toggle enabled:

Display Device: 0: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, \\.\DISPLAY10 (primary)
Display Device: 1: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, \\.\DISPLAY11 [disabled]
Display Device: 2: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, \\.\DISPLAY12 [disabled]
Display Device: 3: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, \\.\DISPLAY13 [disabled]
Display Device: 4: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, \\.\DISPLAY14 [disabled]
Display Device: 5: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, \\.\DISPLAY15 [disabled]
Display Device: 6: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, \\.\DISPLAY16 [disabled]
Display Device: 7: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, \\.\DISPLAY17 [disabled]

Driver check could not determine the driver version for 18.8.randombetadriver
Driver check shows the installed 18.8.123randomdriver driver is newer or the same as the 18.8.2 required version
Driver check shows the installed 18.9.randomdriver driver is newer or the same as the 18.8.2 required version
Driver check shows the installed 18.8.2 driver is newer or the same as the 18.8.2 required version
Driver check shows the installed 18.8.2 driver is newer or the same as the 18.8.1 required version
Driver check shows the installed 18.8.2 driver is older than the 18.8.3 required version


AGS Library initialized: v5.4.0
Is *not* WACK compliant for use in UWP apps
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Radeon Software Version: 20.1.4
Driver Version: 19.50.17.01-200124a-351282E-RadeonSoftwareAdrenalin2020
-----------------------------------------------------------------

---------- Device 0 [primary], AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT
Vendor id: 0x1002 (AMD)
Device id: 0x731F
Revision id: 0x00C1

Architecture: RDNA, 40 CUs, 20 WGPs, 64 ROPs
core clock 1755 MHz, memory clock 1750 MHz
9.0 Tflops
local memory: 7805 MBs (437.5 GB/s), shared memory: 8150 MBs


Eyefinity not enabled on this device

---------- Display 0 [primary]----------------------------------------
device name: \\.\DISPLAY10
monitor name: AV Receiver

Max resolution: 3840 x 2160, 60.0 Hz
Current resolution: 3840 x 2160, Offset (0, 0), 60.0 Hz
Visible resolution: 3840 x 2160, Offset (0, 0)

chromaticity red: 0.065600, 0.034000
chromaticity green: 0.032000, 0.062400
chromaticity blue: 0.015600, 0.005600
chromaticity white point: 0.000000, 0.000000

luminance: [min, max, avg] 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000
screen reflectance diffuse 0.000000
screen reflectance specular 0.000000

HDR10 supported
Dolby Vision supported

logical display index: 12
ADL adapter index: 0


-----------------------------------------------------------------
Primary Display detected
Display name: x
Device name:
DisplayFlags: 0

done

[Fandangos]

Yeah.........

It's not the first time I try to fix this and once again this is a dead end.
I can't find anything that might result in bt.2020 not being sent to the display.

[oldpainlesskodi]

Well, at least thanks for looking.

[DMU]

Your post (https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=345566&pid=2919981#pid2919981) on the Kodi forum:

the workaround is turning windows hdr toggle to on.
You can do this before opening kodi, just going into windows display settings, turning it on and colors will be correct.
This is not a good solution for the end user so i can make it automatic but.... And a huge but..
The code we have to turn hdr on will default the refresh rate back to 60hz.
So this will kill 23hz playback.

Solve this problem so that the frequency does not switch. Do not need anything else.
I don’t understand why the frequency is switched? This code simply activates the Windows HDR mode, the frequency does not change in the desktop!

[Fandangos]

Your post (https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=345566&pid=2919981#pid2919981) on the Kodi forum:


Solve this problem so that the frequency does not switch. Do not need anything else.
I don’t understand why the frequency is switched? This code simply activates the Windows HDR mode, the frequency does not change in the desktop!

Me neither. I have no idea why it does, but it does.

I tried with both the code you provided and the refactored code made by Jogal both resulted in 60hz being activated again.

Tried with the code inside Kodi, tried with external .exe.

Tried switching at the start of video playback, tried switching a few seconds after playback starts.
Every scenario results in 23hz reverting to 60hz.

This is true for both AMD and Nvidia.

If I switch the refresh using Windows display settings and run the code it will mantain 23hz.
I even tried triggering kodi's updateresolution call that would set 23hz again, nothing.

And I can't activate it automatically prior to playback start because we have no means to know if the file played has HDR metadata or it's primaries are bt.2020 before playback starts.

So the only solution I see to not break refresh rate switching is to turn it ON before the playback starts manually.

Maybe some other dev could point a solution, I honestly have no idea how to overcome this limitation.

EDIT:
Opened another issue at the AMD AGS:
https://github.com/GPUOpen-LibrariesAndSDKs/AGS_SDK/issues/35

[DMU]

Tried switching at the start of video playback, tried switching a few seconds after playback starts.
Every scenario results in 23hz reverting to 60hz.
Is this the reason why Jogal does not want to automatically activate the HDR mode?


Opened another issue at the AMD AGS:
https://github.com/GPUOpen-LibrariesAndSDKs/AGS_SDK/issues/35
Have you read my (https://github.com/GPUOpen-LibrariesAndSDKs/AGS_SDK/issues/33)?

[Fandangos]

Is this the reason why Jogal does not want to automatically activate the HDR mode?


Have you read my (https://github.com/GPUOpen-LibrariesAndSDKs/AGS_SDK/issues/33)?

I don't know.
He is a far better dev than I am so I don't know if he faced another issue besides that one.

And yes I've seen yours, it's very informative, sadly I don't think anyone looks at the ags github anymore.

[huhn]

i just say it again they have more important things to do for now.

the 5600 is a very important product this one just has to work.

[oldpainlesskodi]

Huhn - Not sure where you are coming from/what you mean.

[Asmodian]

The drivers have issues that are a lot more serious than this bug with the HDR API.

[oldpainlesskodi]

Oh well. I don't game, so, here's to the next driver........

[mclingo]

oddly, gaming on my 5700 is flawless :)

[huhn]

if you think so...

better don't read the driver change log you may knock yourself out from hitting the table.

you just have to disable a couple of things to avoid the bigger issues.
freesync
hardware decoding

just make sure you don't have more then 2 screen active at a time.
reduce your ram clock.
don't use PCIe 4.0
down clock/volt your GPU.
don't use more then 60 hz.

and you are most likely fine.
except for the games/software that generally doesn't work but "details".

look who is back:
Some Radeon RX 5700 series graphics users may intermittently experience a black screen while gaming or on desktop. A potential temporary workaround is disabling hardware acceleration in applications running in the background such as web browsers or Discord.

ohh wait is was never gone...

so let me guess fixing a meta data issue or driver crashes from watching youtube videos what could be more important right now?

releasing a new buggy GUI didn't help here at all. the user base is "in a foul mood" now.

[chros]

Oh well. I don't game, so, here's to the next driver........
Then why don't you buy a cheap nvidia Pascal card (1070, 1080), use it with the good old driver and get rid of this crap? :)

[oldpainlesskodi]

Ha...good one lol

[Fandangos]

Since this works with older cards without any problem.

Have you guys tried the earliest drivers for your gpu (ryzen or 5700) to see if this fixes the problem?

[huhn]

i had the card when the first driver was released so no thank you. with disabled hardware acceleration i'm pretty much "fine" now. so the driver is not constantly crashing for me.

btw. ryzen has nothing to do with this AMD CPU are doing just great they are pretty much a general recommendation.

[mclingo]

i've tried all the old drivers myself too, the only reason i'm still with red is 3D and that I do a little gaming now i've upgraded my PC to 5700 / Ryzen 3600.

To be honest I dont mind the HDR toggle now, i have it mapped to a key on my remote so if I forget all I need to do is stop the move, toggle and restart it, I dont even have to close KODI DS.

What would be nice however... Fandangos... :):):):):) - if you could make a HDR toggle version of KODI DS :):):):):):):):) - just based on the current version - that would make a lot of AMD NAVI users very happy indeed - :):):):):):):):

but that might be difficult as there would have to be some sort of delay before the movie started in MADVR so this toggled before MADVR started...

[Fandangos]

Just a remote function inside kodi dsplayer to toggle windows hdr on and off?

I never compiled dsplayer but it seems identical.
If that is the case totally possible.

What the end user would have to do is press it before the movie starts and again when the movie ends.

Would that be of any help?

[oldpainlesskodi]

Short answer, yes.

Long answer, I have managed a dirty hack by using advanced launcher tied to HDR toggle.exe and then added it my my favorites. Dsplayer normal, just press play, HDR movie = go into favs, toggle Win HDR Toggle, plays HDR movies, back to favs, toggle off.

Like I said, it's a hack, but beggars cant be choosers.

[mclingo]

Fandangos - if you cant get it to turn on and off automatically when a HDR movies starts I honestly dont think its worth your time mate, it would be nice to have it built in sure but its not really going to any different to our current method really.

but thanks for thinking of us AMD users :)

[Fandangos]

I can make it automatic the problem is that when it is triggered it reverts to 60hz.

So this kills 23hz refresh rate change.

[oldpainlesskodi]

Fandangos - if you cant get it to turn on and off automatically when a HDR movies starts I honestly dont think its worth your time mate, it would be nice to have it built in sure but its not really going to any different to our current method really.

but thanks for thinking of us AMD users :)

I agree - god bless.

[mclingo]

[QUOTE=Fandangos;[/QUOTE]

No worries I wouldnt bother then, even if you could get it to change before the movie starts I dont think it would be stable, we're just going to have to hope AMD fix this soon.

thanks.

[Fandangos]

Could someone with the Ryzen or the RX 5700 bt.2020 problem test my latest release?

You can grab it here:
https://github.com/fandangos/Kodi-HDR-Edition/releases

Install, open it up, press CTRL+H while still in the Kodi interface, play a HDR movie and tell me if the colors are ok.

This can be made automatic for HDR content by adding autohdr true to advancedsettings.xml but this will disable refresh rate change so the movie will be at 60hz all the time.

[mclingo]

hi, i've used your previous versions on occasion just to test and provide you feedback but I need MADVR for tonemapping lovelyness. Your version has always worked fine for me, colours are fine as it uses WINDOWS HDR API not AMD private does it not, or did you switch back?

[Fandangos]

hi, i've used your previous versions on occasion just to test and provide you feedback but I need MADVR for tonemapping lovelyness. Your version has always worked fine for me, colours are fine as it uses WINDOWS HDR API not AMD private does it not, or did you switch back?

Deleted the last build there is something wrong with it.

It uses the AMD private api but uses Windows to force the bt.2020 flag.

Maybe you are confusing my build with somebody else's.

EDIT:

Now everything is fixed:
https://github.com/fandangos/Kodi-HDR-Edition/releases/tag/jan-2020

[mclingo]

I just got confused, there was a lot of talk of using WINDOWS API on your thread.

The build i currently have installed is Kodi-HDR-Edition-4.0-rc3-Python2.exe, if this is also using AMD private API then this works fine for me, no saturation issues. I will however install your new build over the top and try it again when I get home tonight.

[Fandangos]

Yes that's mine but I don't use windows api.
Jogal the one that works on the other fork does use windows api.

So you mind sharing what gpu you have and driver version?

[mclingo]

Hi, AMD RX 5700 20.1.3 - win10 1809 - I didnt try your latest as the other one works and is python2

[mclingo]

ok this is odd, the version I had installed was working fine when I first installed it, now the colours look horrific, massively saturated and contrasty and blown out and HDR 200%, if that makes senese. So I tried your new version, now that is back to the usualy problem with the API, unsaturated colours.

So it triggers the AMD HDR API ok but colours but it doesnt force BT2020, at least two of your versions I tried worked fine initially.

[Asmodian]

No driver updates between then and now?

[mclingo]

totally lost track of my drivers installs, done a lot of jumping around over the last few weeks, couldnt tell you which version I was on when it was working i'm afraid.

[mclingo]

Hi, I can actually get your version to work but only under certain circumstances. Windowed mode has to be applied and I also have to run my desktop in 4k, otherwise it plays the movie massively zoomed. I'm salso getting black screens all ovcer the place when switching two and from 4k to 1080p so i'd have to run my desktop in 4k all the time.

The reason I was running my desktop in 1080p was mainly that 3D movies worked better when KODI is running in 1080p and 4k movies still played fine. However I havent tried running my desktop in 4k for ages, since I was using FSE so i'll give it another go as this new version seems to be quite stable as long as everything is 4k.


edit: tried 4k desktop with KODI DS and 3D, even worse if anything, black screens on stop, and only playing top left hand side of screen, with FSE or windowed mode, its been like this since early versions of windows 10, if I run my desktop in 1080p its all fine, i logged this as a bug with MADVR but madshi insisted it was a driver issue but I dont think it is, MADVR stumbles when changing to 1080p from 4k and back again for 3D, always has for me anyway with about 5 different RX cards and multiple new win10 installs over the years.

so those running everything in 4k will probably beneift from this version but those who want tonemapping will still have to use the manual HDR win toggle for now.

[Fandangos]

ok this is odd, the version I had installed was working fine when I first installed it, now the colours look horrific, massively saturated and contrasty and blown out and HDR 200%, if that makes senese. So I tried your new version, now that is back to the usualy problem with the API, unsaturated colours.

So it triggers the AMD HDR API ok but colours but it doesnt force BT2020, at least two of your versions I tried worked fine initially.

Can you press CTRL+H before opening the movie and let me know if the colors are fixed?

Or just enable autohdr on advancedsettings.xml, will do almost the same if you don't care about 23hz playback.

[mclingo]

23hz is essential to me i.m afriad but colours are fixed.

[Fandangos]

23hz will only be broken with autohdr turned on.

If you press ctrl+h before opening the video file it will fix the colors and 23hz will work.

[mclingo]

great work my friend, just wish i had a use for it, madvr playback is so much better than stock KODI i couldnt even consider using their player unless KODI DS gets broken.

just wish MADSHI would get onto this bug, all he needs to do is add a switch in MADVR to force BT2020, then we could write that switch into a HDR profile.

[oldpainlesskodi]

@Fandangos - One of the biggest downsides to stock Kodi is its scalers and lack of picture tweaking options.

However, you have done some great work, which I am sure the Kodi community greatly appreciate.

[DMU]

Has anyone installed the latest AMD 20.2.1 drivers? Checked HDR?

[oldpainlesskodi]

No, its now even more broken - any copyback over blows the colours & contrast and darkens the image to the point you cant really see whats going on, and still outputs RGB 709.....oh well, back to the previous less broken driver.

[huhn]

VP9 hardware decoding was to much to ask for yes so gone?
p010 d3d11 processing is a new low for them... i have to test copyback now that sounds amazing.