StaxRip x86 (development for x86 has been stopped) [Archive] - Page 6

stax76

30th December 2005, 15:57

@Nrmf

Thanks for your endurance, I much appriate it. I can't promise you we will solve it until I got such a system but as long as people send debug info I'll work on it. I just got a report by another 64 bit user. Here is the next build:

http://www.planetdvb.net/staxrip/StaxRip_Hotfix.zip

Yar, well, I meant multiple hardsub tracks :P So I don't have to go and add an extra line in the AviSynth script manually everytime.

Eh, I think I could need some clarification, how is gonna 2 forced subtitles at the same time work? Won't they blend each other or is there a way to adjust the hight?

swaaye

30th December 2005, 17:19

I've been using Staxrip for a couple days now. Few comments.

- Would be nice if the Staxrip window wasn't "frozen" while the program is running jobs. Hard to tell how many jobs are remaining this way.

- Be able to set it to just use 1 audio file instead of two if it detects two in folder. And be able to set it to only use AC3 files.

- Staxrip's auto crop is pretty poor. I've seen it crop huge parts of the top/bottom. It seems far too agressive. I've set mine up to use the Autocrop filter in the Filters flow (autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10, aspect=-1,threshold=34,samplestartframe=1000,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
). I got the latest autocrop too, the one used in AutoGK as well. (Maybe that's what's causing the prog probs?) I used AutoGK's parameters as a guide but set aspect=-1 so it doesn't change the aspect of the input. Using this causes annoying delays when Staxrip accesses the filter stream (autocrop looking at frames), but it's acceptable because it crops extremely well.

- I added a "Precise Bicubic" (BicubicResize(x,y,0,0.75)) option. According to avisynth faq it's the same config as VDub's Precise Bicubic. I've actually found it gives a better picture than Lanczos with these noisy TV DVDs and a Xvid HT NTSC setup. Precise Bicubic looks arguably better than using RemoveGrain(mode=2)+Lanczos in my testing. And it's faster. Obviously this is personal pref. Bitrate ~1100.

TIVTC is a fantastic filter btw. Might be a good addition. A lot faster than decomb and works very well with hyrids even.

stax76

30th December 2005, 18:39

- Would be nice if the Staxrip window wasn't "frozen" while the program is running jobs. Hard to tell how many jobs are remaining this way.

What you should see is the Log dialog or it's a bug, maybe I can write to the top of the log "Job 1 of 4".

- Be able to set it to just use 1 audio file instead of two if it detects two in folder.

I'll take a look at it.

And be able to set it to only use AC3 files.

Correct would be of course if it would only pick up files that are supported by the selected audio profile and it would use the priority defined in the audio profile. I'll take a look at it.

-Autocrop is pretty poor. I've seen it crop huge parts of the top/bottom. It seems far to agressive. I've set mine up to use the Autocrop filter in the Filters flow (autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10, aspect=-1,threshold=34,samplestartframe=1000,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)

If possible I would like to avoid making a option. Maybe you can explain me the differences between your and my method, I'm using this:

ConvertToYV12().AutoCrop(mode=2)

Do you wanna put this in the filter setup and disable the build in feature? I've never tried something like this but it should work.

- I added a "Precise Bicubic" (BicubicResize(x,y,0,0.75)) option. According to avisynth faq it's the same config as VDub's Precise Bicubic. I've actually found it gives a better picture than Lanczos with these noisy TV DVDs and a Xvid HT NTSC setup. Precise Bicubic looks arguably better than using RemoveGrain(mode=2)+Lanczos in my testing. And it's faster. Obviously this is personal pref. Bitrate ~1100.

TIVTC is a fantastic filter btw. Might be a good addition. A lot faster than decomb and works very well with hyrids even.

Maybe you can post patches, everything that needs another dll is critical as I have to integrate it in the download feature as well.

field.Fiters.Add(New AviSynthFilter("Field", "Deinterlace", "FieldDeinterlace()", True))
field.Fiters.Add(New AviSynthFilter("Field", "Fast Deinterlace", "SeparateFields().SelectEven()", True))
field.Fiters.Add(New AviSynthFilter("Field", "IVTC", "Telecide(guide=1).Decimate()", True))

resize.Fiters.Add(New AviSynthFilter("Resize", "Sharp", "LanczosResize(%target_width%,%target_height%)", True))
resize.Fiters.Add(New AviSynthFilter("Resize", "Neutral", "BicubicResize(%target_width%,%target_height%,0,0.5)", True))
resize.Fiters.Add(New AviSynthFilter("Resize", "Soft", "BilinearResize(%target_width%,%target_height%)", True))

Since it seems that you've grasped all StaxRip's AviSynth features, I hope it's a good way to do things.

swaaye

30th December 2005, 19:48

Since it seems that you've grasped all StaxRip's AviSynth features, I hope it's a good way to do things.

Yes I really like your prog. It's so much more powerful than AutoGK but is almost as simple. The way everything is editable is fairly amazing, IMO.

What you should see is the Log dialog or it's a bug, maybe I can write to the top of the log "Job 1 of 4".

Actually what I mean is that the project setup window is frozen completely and isn't displaying any useful info (other than the processing window that loads when you start an encode). It's the same sort of thing as when a program freezes up and you have to kill it. I know it's not locked though, it processes through the jobs fine though. Maybe you could set it up to minimize/hide the big project setup window and just display a job list panel? This would also hopefully allow one to kill off individual jobs instead of hitting Abort for a few minutes and ending them as Staxrip loads them. I thought AutoGK had this setup very well.

swaaye

30th December 2005, 19:55

If possible I would like to avoid making a option. Maybe you can explain me the differences between your and my method, I'm using this:

ConvertToYV12().AutoCrop(mode=2)

Do you wanna put this in the filter setup and disable the build in feature? I've never tried something like this but it should work.

The story is I used AutoGK for a ton of encodes recently and it cropped fantastically. So, I just used most of what lenn0x had set for parameters, with the one change to not force a new aspect ratio. I initially tried forcing 4.0:3.0, like his readme for autocrop 1.2 says, but that gave be a strange 5:4 aspect in the end. I just set it to aspect=-1 and all was well and it still cropped great in the 3 or 4 test encodes I did last night.

As to the other parameters he used, I don't know what the exact purpose is. I'm guessing that they optimize the crop to fit better within codec resolution limitations (hence the multiples of 4). He has 'hMultOf' set to 4 instead of the default of 2. His slightly higher threshold of 34 (from 30) is probably to help autocrop be more sensitive with a wide range of sources (dirty/clean). I set the the sample start frame to 1000 because I thought frame 0 would just be blank anyway so would be pointless.

Mutant_Fruit

30th December 2005, 20:00

I set the the sample start frame to 1000
And if the clip is 999 frames long?

stax76

30th December 2005, 20:14

Actually what I mean is that the project setup window is frozen completely and isn't displaying any useful info (other than the processing window that loads when you start an encode). It's the same sort of thing as when a program freezes up and you have to kill it. I know it's not locked though, it processes through the jobs fine though.

I've changed the title bar of the processing window to "StaxRip - Log" so it'll be called Log window in future versions. Whenever this is visible the main dialog is hidden, so it's a bug.

Maybe you could set it up to minimize/hide the big project setup window and just display a job list panel? This would also hopefully allow one to kill off individual jobs instead of hitting Abort for a few minutes and ending them as Staxrip loads them. I thought AutoGK had this setup very well.

I'll investigate it but it would be a non trivial change. This area has not the best design as it's a) difficult and b) inherited from DVX.

swaaye

30th December 2005, 21:41

And if the clip is 999 frames long?
I set it for myself, not for the general populace. I'm saying that frame 0 probably isn't useful.

swaaye

30th December 2005, 22:10

Stax,

One more idea. Can you set StaxRip to load the Virtualdub windows minimized?

stax76

30th December 2005, 22:22

Probably yes

digidragon

30th December 2005, 22:38

One small, irritating thing. When selecting an MPEG (with mp2 audio) as the source, it insists on trying to get me to download and install java in order to run ProjectX. The MPEG is not a transport stream, and if I rename it to *.vob then it's accepted without a problem.

stax76

30th December 2005, 23:06

ProjectX works great with mpg files recorded by DVBViewer. In the options you can config what demuxers to use and even config the file extensions a demuxer should handle. You can remove ProjectX or edit ProjectX to not handle mpg.

digidragon

30th December 2005, 23:20

Okay thanks - I'll look at the settings (I've only just started using it).

Nrmf

30th December 2005, 23:52

cool ...gonna try the hotfix i assume i just unzip and run the .exe in there

Nrmf

31st December 2005, 00:26

well stax i get an error still trying to pul in .vob files but this time no box just shuts down stax and a MS box pops open asking me if i want to send a report to them. so im not able to give you any info ...looks like i need to format and go back to 32 bit O/S to use your app

stax76

31st December 2005, 00:39

You can try another build, if you see the native error dialog again, then we are out of look until I get a 64 bit system.

http://www.planetdvb.net/staxrip/StaxRip_Hotfix.zip

Nrmf

31st December 2005, 01:29

man thats a ton of error messages

Nrmf

31st December 2005, 01:30

i tell you what stax since you have taken your time to make your app better and let others use as soon as a 64 bit combo comes up on sell at my local frys i will buy and send to you, it might only be a 64 bit sempron but i assume that wont make any differemce.

Nrmf

31st December 2005, 01:32

i am gonna reformat this hard drive and install it on 32 bit windows with 64 bit cpu, hop eu dont mind me fireing off a ton of questions at you.

swaaye

31st December 2005, 02:36

Stax just want to say thanks for this program. It's working really great for me and is really what I wanted to see out of AutoGK. Have a great New Years.

Aladdin

31st December 2005, 02:45

I only just now figured out it's possible to add prepare operations based on file extension. So I thought I might try to add VD demuxing myself. It's a bit ugly (didn't find a way around the 'cmd /c' yet), but it works. So if anyone else wants to use VD for the avi audio demuxing, add a new prepare operation of type 'command line' with 'avi' as input and 'wav' for audio output and the following command lines:

cmd /c echo VirtualDub.Open(VirtualDub.params[0]); > "%application_dir%\demuxaudio.vcf"
cmd /c echo VirtualDub.SaveWAV(VirtualDub.params[1]); >> "%application_dir%\demuxaudio.vcf"
cmd /c echo VirtualDub.Close(); >> "%application_dir%\demuxaudio.vcf"
cmd /c start /wait %application:VirtualDub% /x /i "%application_dir%\demuxaudio.vcf" "%source_file%" "%source_dir%%source_name%.wav"
cmd /c del "%application_dir%\demuxaudio.vcf"
Don't forget to disable to the AVI2WAV prepare operation or both operartions will get launched every time you open an avi.

travisbell

31st December 2005, 06:50

Hey guys, I just installed Stax and gotta say... looks pretty cool.

2 questions though.

1) Am I just blind or how do I enable IVTC in order to get my 29.976fps content down to 23.976fps?

2) If I want to ONLY use FFDSHOW, is there any way I can maintain AC3 audio with x264 encodes? Or do I have to use AAC?

Thanks!! Looks like a killer app dude.

Cheers,

GhaFear

31st December 2005, 13:49

I am getting the audio delay problem again. Not sure. What’s the deal.
WINXP.SP2 - Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 745 1.80GHz (Centrino)

I use DVDx v2.3. And I get perfect video & audio sync.
Something is missing not sure what it is. I am guessing it's the Framerate or CPU compatibility issue.

But I like it for what it does so far...

ZK

mulrich

31st December 2005, 15:46

Eh, I think I could need some clarification, how is gonna 2 forced subtitles at the same time work? Won't they blend each other or is there a way to adjust the hight?

When making an ASS or SSA subtitle, you can tell the subtitles where to appear. You can also tell them whether they are to move from one point to another and loads of other things.

For example, I'm karaoke subbing a videoklip. I have the Japanese Romaji moving, karaoke-style in the top of the video, while static English subs are displayed in the bottom of the video.

It's not a big deal to go and add another subtitle in the AVS file, but it would be convinient if it was possible directly from StaxRip. :)

swaaye

31st December 2005, 18:15

Nrmf

31st December 2005, 20:40

how should i have the xvid codec setup up so many settings and options to go through

weaver4

31st December 2005, 22:27

I am having a small problem with StaxRip. I got the movie "the Island" for Christmas. I have used avi.net and staxrip to make a copy of it and the staxrip copy is much worse than the avi.net copy. I have done both of them at 1100kbs rate but the staxrip copy is noticably more blocky particularly around the edges and during motion.

For example during the pre-picture the Warners-Bothers big "W" comes towards you the avi.net copy is smooth, the staxrip has a ragged, jagged edge to the "W".

I am sure it is something I have set up wrong since I am using the same XviD codec to do both.

Any hints would be appreciated.

swaaye

1st January 2006, 03:33

how should i have the xvid codec setup up so many settings and options to go through

I'd hit the load defaults button and just set a profile. I'm using the DXN NTSC profile cuz I'm making files for my DVP642.

Doom9 itself has a guide for setting up Xvid 1.1.

Nrmf

1st January 2006, 04:14

thank you

stax76

1st January 2006, 15:25

Happy new year to the community. First release this year is a urgent bug fix release as I've received more then ten bug reports about a weird bug I wasn't able to reproduce. Thanks to everybody for all the feedback, it'll keep me busy for some time.

0.9.1.8 (2006-01-01)

fix: fixed bug in settings dialog and maybe other TreeView based dialogs causing a crash on some systems.
new: experimental/beta new x264 encoder.

Regarding the new x264 dialog, I would like to improve this a little bit and hope to get a little help. I want to move the most popular options to the main tab, what could that be? I also want to add a turbo checkbox which would use faster settings for analysis passes, any suggestions for this feature? Most importantly is I'll add the possibility to add additional CLI switches for what no GUI controls are available yet.

stax76

1st January 2006, 16:16

@swaaye

I wasn't able to reproduce the freeze issue, maybe you can mail some log files.

I've changed auto crop for the next release:

AutoCrop(mode=2,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10)

i am gonna reformat this hard drive and install it on 32 bit windows with 64 bit cpu, hop eu dont mind me fireing off a ton of questions at you.

I'm sorry it didn't work, seems like other .NET apps have also problems. If more and more bug reports are made I have to get such a system hoping I can fix the problems this way, donations would help of course.

@Aladdin

thanks for posting the code, I'll need to work on this stuff.

Am I just blind or how do I enable IVTC in order to get my 29.976fps content down to 23.976fps?

There is some preset that can by applied using the context menu. I want to add default Filter Setup profiles. Making default profiles and default values in general is not so easy, I hope I'll find more people helping me here suggesting their favorite scripts, command lines and values. I want also add features to detect all this things automatically but that's even harder.

If I want to ONLY use FFDSHOW, is there any way I can maintain AC3 audio with x264 encodes? Or do I have to use AAC?

Could work using mkv.

I am getting the audio delay problem again. Not sure. What’s the deal.
WINXP.SP2 - Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 745 1.80GHz (Centrino)

You mean it's out of sync? Could have many reasons but with this information I can only make guesses.

@mulrich

Latest build allows to add multiple forced subtitles.

how should i have the xvid codec setup up so many settings and options to go through

StaxRip and XviD defaults are OK, you got to ensure the bitrate is high enough, here is a link about it: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=104944

ricardo.santos

1st January 2006, 16:47

although i dont use x264 for backups i decided to try it using staxrip new version.

i get audio sync problems when playing the file, tried 4different video files.

when i open Staxrip one of the first things i do is to picck the encoder and muxer, i opened Staxrip picked x264 and mp4box and then opened the video file waited for dgindex to do his work, after dgindex finishes the encoder and muxer options are reverted to the default ones that in my case are divx and virtualdubmod,

Ricardo

stax76

1st January 2006, 18:08

i get audio sync problems when playing the file, tried 4different video files.

In case of problems the best thing to do is always enclosing possible reasons, for instance you can try another muxer, try another encoder or try another demuxer.

when i open Staxrip one of the first things i do is to picck the encoder and muxer, i opened Staxrip picked x264 and mp4box and then opened the video file waited for dgindex to do his work, after dgindex finishes the encoder and muxer options are reverted to the default ones that in my case are divx and virtualdubmod,

When you open a source StaxRip will load the default project if another source is already open or if the assistant don't is at the very first tip which is "Please open a source file." It would ask to save the the current project if it was modified and a source was opened when opening a new source so the only possible reason I'm aware of is the assistant wasn't at the very first tip. The assistant should not be bypassed so this makes sense. I could however just reset the assistant tips which appears to have only advantages.

ricardo.santos

1st January 2006, 21:27

In case of problems the best thing to do is always enclosing possible reasons, for instance you can try another muxer, try another encoder or try another demuxer.

the sync problem only appears when using x264 in version (0.9.1.8), before, that wasnt a problem, i used x264 as codec and mp4box as the muxer always.
can i use another muxer instead of mp4box?

stax76

2nd January 2006, 13:48

The sync problem only appears when using x264 in version (0.9.1.8), before, that wasnt a problem, i used x264 as codec and mp4box as the muxer always.
can i use another muxer instead of mp4box?

I don't know another MP4 muxer, you could try however mkvmerge to see if it works better. If it does it's a indication that MP4Box is the problem. I don't remember any recent changes that could cause a sync issue. Sync issues can happen:

*while demuxing, maybe another demuxer can be used, you could config StaxRip to load audio and video with AviSynth and then play the script in a media player to check if the demuxer is the problem.
*while audio encoding, StaxRip audio profiles don't handle delay and the StaxRip muxers will notice if the delay wasn't handled and thus handle it, check the command line, you could also use -ota( -d %delay% ) in the audio profile, the muxer wouldn't handle the delay then.
*while muxing, check the command line, for most containers there aren't many alternative muxers.
*while playback, try different DirectShow filters and try players that don't rely on DirectShow like VlC and mplayer.

bond

2nd January 2006, 13:58

i dunno what staxrip does internally, but mp4box will set 25fps by default when importing a raw video stream. so when you import from raw video with a different fps you need to use the -fps switch

also mp4box handles setting a delay, but this isnt taken into account by many players, so always make sure you correct the delay already while audio encoding

stax76

2nd January 2006, 14:04

i dunno what staxrip does internally, but mp4box will set 25fps by default when importing a raw video stream. so when you import from raw video with a different fps you need to use the -fps switch

iirc on raw streams it does pass the framerate to MP4Box.

also mp4box handles setting a delay, but this isnt taken into account by many players, so always make sure you correct the delay already while audio encoding

I better modify then all audio profiles to handle delay.

LRN

2nd January 2006, 19:30

About this new x264...How to configure 1st and 2nd passes separately? I have to set decision quality to 1 (fastest) for 1st pass, but not for 2nd pass...

stax76

2nd January 2006, 21:13

@LRN

The intermediate concept of the old dialog is to not ideal for novice users, I'm trying to make StaxRip as easy as possible as announced in a posting about a focus shift. What I can do is letting users customize the turbo switches if that aren't too many (5-10) so please tell me what exactly is decision quality. I've seen quite a few people struggle with the StaxRip intermediate concept and the MeGUI turbo/automated concept, I also received quite a few bug reports caused by misconfiguration of the intermediate feature (there aren't verifications for the settings). That's why in the new dialog I'm previewing the command lines of all passes together.

LRN

3rd January 2006, 04:20

Look at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/menc-feat-x264.html
"Moreover, two passes need not take twice as long as one pass. You can tweak the options in the first pass for higher speed and lower quality. If you choose your options well, you can get a very fast first pass. The resulting quality in the second pass will be slightly lower because size prediction is less accurate, but the quality difference is normally much too small to be visible. Try, for example, adding subq=1:frameref=1 to the first pass x264encopts. Then, on the second pass, use slower, higher-quality options: subq=6:frameref=15:4x4mv:me=3"
As i understand, Subpixel Motion Estimation and Max Consecutive B-Frames should be 1 (both) for first pass.
As i sad before, in my previous post, it's not so easy to configure x264 for optimal speed/quality.

chipzoller

3rd January 2006, 21:12

To interject in this conversation...

I've noticed that using StaxRip I get occasional frames in my encodes that still look interlaced even though the source is FILM...I dont' think I ever saw this in GK. Has anyone else noticed this? If I set the option to deinterlace I don't see this that much, but the source is progressive FILM.

Also, is it possible when calculating bitrate from final file size (if DivX is used as the encoder) can you take the calculating function inside StaxRip from the calculator found in the codec config?

LRN

4th January 2006, 14:17

I just finished backup of "Cast Away" movie...At the end i got 1064 Mb mp4 file with only video. But! If i keep it in one directory with audio files (ac3, three of them - two language tracks and one audio comment track), it plays video AND ALL 3 audio files simultaneously! Sounds really weird and cool, but that's not what i want, really...Looks like it's Staxrip-mp4box compatibility issue. I should mention, what i used mp4 files for audio input (my first encoding attemt failed, but AAC encoder performed fine, and i got two mp4 AAC tracks, so i kept them as "Calculate size only").
I tried to mix everything manually with YAMB MP4box frontent and got full 1400 Mb mp4 movie without subtitles, with only one audiotrack (there MUST be another audiotrack in this file, but i did not found any way to switch tracks; i use MPC + ffdshow + Haali splitter), and this audio track is not syncronized with video.
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Yayyyy! I'm really dumb :) Did'nt noticed "Mux AAC" :) Damn...

stax76

4th January 2006, 18:46

I've noticed that using StaxRip I get occasional frames in my encodes that still look interlaced even though the source is FILM...I dont' think I ever saw this in GK. Has anyone else noticed this? If I set the option to deinterlace I don't see this that much, but the source is progressive FILM.

StaxRip leaves the AviSynth configuration for the most part up to the user, I think GoradianKnot is much different in this regard.

Also, is it possible when calculating bitrate from final file size (if DivX is used as the encoder) can you take the calculating function inside StaxRip from the calculator found in the codec config?

Something like this currently does not work, is there a problem or limitation with the StaxRip calculator?

@LRN

I'll do x264 work shortly.

FFWD

4th January 2006, 19:03

Hi Stax,

MeGUI has custom x264 video profiles. Is something similar expected for StaxRip (I like the 'HQ Slower' preset)? Can you add AAC-HE v2?

stax76

4th January 2006, 19:11

MeGUI has custom x264 video profiles. Is something similar expected for StaxRip (I like the 'HQ Slower' preset)?

Seems like it's frequently requested so probably yes. The more people request a certain feature the sooner it will be supported.

Can you add AAC-HE v2?

It would be much easier for me people sending me command lines, links and anything else that could be useful for adding it.

stax76

5th January 2006, 21:47

0.9.1.9 (2006-01-05)

fix: Fixed crash using second audio track only.
fix: Warning and refusing opening files with unicode name as it's not supported by some applications e.g. DGIndex.
fix: It's no longer possible to ignore crucial assistant instructions and warnings.
new: Enabled MP4 and MKV input for the MKV muxer, can be used with x264 and fixes also a bug.
new: x264 quality mode (--qrf).
change: Updated to x264 395 wich fixes also incompatibility bugs.
change: Added delay handling to audio profiles since it's better to use the encoder instead of the muxer to handle delay.
change: Only audio files are picked up when opening a source file that are supported by the audio profile.
change: Legacy x264 encoder removed.
change: x264 encoder command line preview includes now all file paths.