StaxRip x86 (development for x86 has been stopped) [Archive] - Page 17

juhu

20th March 2006, 13:30

Hi there. I think I found a funny bug (0.9.9) :

I made some tries on a vhs transfered via dvd-recorder, so I wasn't sure about de-interlacing.
I selected a short section on preview mode and I used IVTC. worked ok, but still some scanlines. So I choosed Deinterlace instead to compare... and the encoding began with the first frame of the vob, not the selected section ! :eek:
To be sure I didn't fuck up parameters, I reselected IVTC...and the encoding began at the selected frame...
fast deinterlace & no deinterlace also began with the first frame of the vob , not the selected part...

I don't think it's directly related to IVTC but something more like these preview parameters only apply to your first choice.
weird...

stax76

20th March 2006, 13:48

I made some tries on a vhs transfered via dvd-recorder, so I wasn't sure about de-interlacing.
I selected a short section on preview mode and I used IVTC. worked ok, but still some scanlines. So I choosed Deinterlace instead to compare... and the encoding began with the first frame of the vob, not the selected section !
To be sure I didn't fuck up parameters, I reselected IVTC...and the encoding began at the selected frame...
fast deinterlace & no deinterlace also began with the first frame of the vob , not the selected part...

I don't think it's directly related to IVTC but something more like these preview parameters only apply to your first choice.
weird...

Keep in mind that the cut points are frame numbers, first you add your filters that change the frame rate and frame count, then you cut and after that you can't change filters that change the frame rate and frame count. If you try to do that your cut points are wrong and that's what happened here I think.

juhu

20th March 2006, 13:56

Keep in mind that the cut points are frame numbers, first you add your filters that change the frame rate and frame count, then you cut and after that you can't change filters that change the frame rate and frame count. If you try to do that your cut points are wrong and that's what happened here I think.

ok..but may the preview mode should use some "absolute" frame numbers (as the exact same frames are still used before filtering), so it would be independant from filters. It's a bit strange to have to delete & reselect cut points each time we want to use different filters on a partial file...

stax76

20th March 2006, 14:09

ok..but may the preview mode should use some "absolute" frame numbers (as the exact same frames are still used before filtering), so it would be independant from filters. It's a bit strange to have to delete & reselect cut points each time we want to use different filters on a partial file...

It uses absolute frame numbers of course, the preview is here to preview the entire script so from a technical point of view I'm not sure if there is a solution. Well, I could try to insert the cut filter directly after the source filter which might solve this issue.

juhu

20th March 2006, 14:13

Well, I could try to insert the cut filter directly after the source filter which might solve this issue.

I'd like too :o
thanks in advance if you go for it in next versions...

stax76

20th March 2006, 15:59

@juhu

I thought about it and came to the conclusion there is no easy solution because like I said already the preview is for displaying the entire script and it's a big difference modifying framerate and frame count there. Your bitrate calculations rely also on the frame count and likely other things as well so you should add your IVTC filters before doing anything else.

Nrmf

21st March 2006, 03:17

lates dgindex does not work...evertything is 29.97 and everything has and audo sync problem...gonna pop in new mobo do freshg install and reload stax

nickolasemp

21st March 2006, 10:30

@stax

Sorry for atking so long to answer. DGIndex says "Cannot find audio or video data. Check your PIDs"... Autogk does not do that.
I record my .ts files with altdvb if it helps.

stax76

21st March 2006, 10:49

Sorry for atking so long to answer. DGIndex says "Cannot find audio or video data. Check your PIDs"... Autogk does not do that.
I record my .ts files with altdvb if it helps.

AutoGK might inspect the pids using MediaInfo, you can easiliy find it out by looking at the command line AutoGK used to invoke DGIndex, use the application 'Process Explorer' to see the command line. I don't remember your last post, why isn't your file processed by ProjectX? This is the default in StaxRip and much better than the AutoGK way.

nickolasemp

21st March 2006, 11:15

In Staxrip's log it says:
---------- Preparing ----------
Extract audio from MPEG-2 using ProjectX
---------- Preparing ----------
Extract audio and index MPEG-2 using DGIndex

and then it stops.

I just tried to change the directory of the external apllication of dgindex to be the one that autogk uses. Everything goes fine... But when I switch to the one Staxrip wants me to download and use, everything stops... Perhaps a bug?

By the way, I downloaded Process Explorer and it doesn't say whether autogk uses mediaInfo or not.

stax76

21st March 2006, 11:56

@nickolasemp

Did you try to understand how source file preparation and the underlying tools work? With the information I get from you it's tough to diagnose something. Do you know what ProjectX and DGIndex are supposed to output and did you verify the output is OK?

nickolasemp

21st March 2006, 12:08

Let's see -correct me if I'm wrong-:

Both ProjectX and DGIndex check the file you input and prepare it for further processing. ProjectX outputs the audio file seperately and DGIndex outputs the d2v file.

Now, in my computer, projectX doesn't output the audio file but DGIndex does index the input file. I don't know what's wrong. Forgive me if I'm being tiresome... This problem never occurs when my files are mpg(from Progdvb), only ts files do that.
Java is enabled for ProjectX...

I dont know why staxrip doesn't use ProjectX or maybe it does... I showed you staxrip's log.

stax76

21st March 2006, 12:54

@nickolasemp

Did you read the help under Options/Preperation? There are two help buttons, the one within the preparation tab explains the preparation tab. If you select the ProjectX preparer which is a generic command line comparer you can click 'Edit' which opens the 'Command Line Preparer' dialog to configure the selected command line preparer, you find another help button there. I've uploaded a hotfix which saves the log file after every preparer completes containing more information about the preparation.

http://www.planetdvb.net/staxrip/StaxRip_Hotfix.zip

---------- Preparing ----------

Preparer: Extract audio from MPEG-2 using ProjectX
Command line: "C:\Programme\Java\jre1.5.0_05\bin\java.exe" -jar "D:\Software\AV\StaxRip Anwendungen\ProjectX\ProjectX.jar" "E:\Video\Samples\Teranova\Terranova.ts"
Start time: 12:47:18
End time: 12:47:22
Duration: 00:00:03

---------- Preparing ----------

Preparer: Extract audio and index MPEG-2 using DGIndex
Command line: "D:\Software\AV\StaxRip Anwendungen\DGIndex\DGIndex.exe" -IF[E:\Video\Samples\Teranova\Terranova.m2v] -IA=2 -FO=0 -YR=1 -TN=1 -OM=2 -DRC=2 -DSD=0 -DSA=0 -OF=[E:\Video\Samples\Teranova\Terranova] -exit
Start time: 12:47:22
End time: 12:47:23
Duration: 00:00:01

SeeMoreDigital

21st March 2006, 12:55

Speaking as someone who has been using release and test builds of DGIndex for many months it's quite possible for DGIndex not to be able to open certain .TS streams during import and display the following message: -

"Cannot find audio or video data. Check your PIDs"...

Meaning some user intervention will be required....

Plus, when importing .VOB, .MPG or .TS files, every now and again DGIndex might report the following message: -

"WARNING! Opening GOP is not Closed.
The First few frames may not be decoded properly"

When this happens it's quite likely the resulting de-muxed audio stream will incorporate some level of (positive or negative) "delay".

In my experience, streams captured using DVB cards seem to present DGIndex with the most problem (even if they've been run thru tools such as MPEG2 Repair or HDTV-to-MPEG2).

Cheers

nickolasemp

21st March 2006, 13:21

@seemoredigital
I'm almost positive that this is the case...

@staxrip
Still DGIndex (from staxrip's location) crashes while autogk's doesn't... Thank you both for your help... I'll use autogk's DGIndex for Staxrip to work.

---------- Preparing ----------

Preparer: Extract audio from MPEG-2 using ProjectX
Command line: "C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.2_01\bin\java.exe" -jar "D:\Programs\Mpeg 4 - Video\mp4\staxrip\Applications\ProjectX\ProjectX.jar" "C:\AltDvb\Records\New Folder\Welcome to my life.TS"
Start time: 2:16:06 μμ
End time: 2:16:07 μμ
Duration: 00:00:00

---------- Preparing ----------

Preparer: Extract audio and index MPEG-2 using DGIndex
Command line: "C:\Program Files\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGIndex.exe" -IF[C:\AltDvb\Records\New Folder\Welcome to my life.TS] -IA=2 -FO=0 -YR=1 -TN=1 -OM=2 -DRC=2 -DSD=0 -DSA=0 -OF=[C:\AltDvb\Records\New Folder\Welcome to my life] -exit
Start time: 2:16:07 μμ
End time: 2:16:18 μμ
Duration: 00:00:00

stax76

21st March 2006, 13:56

@nickolasemp

Your ProjectX completes at 0 seconds so something goes wrong here. As you might have noticed ProjectX with command line uses the command shell because a command shell window should have popped up for a moment. Whenever a application fails it's much likely to give you a error. A windows application will show you something like a message box and a command line application will output the error to the command window. That means if you want to see the error you have to open a command prompt and execute the command line (right-click to paste and press enter) because command line applications exit when they are finished if they are not started from the command prompt. You can try to use ProjectX manually (the GUI) which might also give you a error. Maybe the reason why your AltDVB records fail is it misses some pids ProjectX insists on. If you managed to use a application like AltDVB you should also be able to master this problem ;)

In my experience, streams captured using DVB cards seem to present DGIndex with the most problem

That's my experience too and the reason why in StaxRip the ProjectX preparer is configured to even handle mpg so the DGIndex preparer will never receive a mpg file. I never experienced sync issues this way.

anne_so78

22nd March 2006, 08:52

I don't have the time to add a second AAC encoder so unless someody joins StaxRip development your only chance is trying to configure StaxRip to use another encoder.
But isn't it as simple as installing the CT aacPlus encoder plugin for BeSweet and adding an audio encoding profile in staxrip with these parameters ""%application:BeSweet%" -core( -input "%input%" -output "%output%" ) -azid( -s stereo -L -3db ) -dimzon( -dllname bse_WinampAacPlusV2.dll -cbr 32 -mode 4 -v 2 ) -ota( -d -130 -g max )" ?
Or is it much more complicated ?

stax76

22nd March 2006, 11:15

But isn't it as simple as installing the CT aacPlus encoder plugin for BeSweet and adding an audio encoding profile in staxrip with these parameters ""%application:BeSweet%" -core( -input "%input%" -output "%output%" ) -azid( -s stereo -L -3db ) -dimzon( -dllname bse_WinampAacPlusV2.dll -cbr 32 -mode 4 -v 2 ) -ota( -d -130 -g max )" ?
Or is it much more complicated ?

It's much more difficult than adding a profile and a plugin. Everything related to MP4 and AAC was difficult to add and maintain and Winamp AAC would certainly be no exception here. It was a big effort to add and maintain these things and there were a lot problems and difficulties I was contronted. On a scale from 1 to 10 where 1 is fun and ten is difficult MP4/AAC certainly would be solid 10. Many applications and formats actually were difficult to add and maintain.

flipflink

22nd March 2006, 14:28

Hi, newbie question. Your program was recommended to me by a friend and it looks real promising. But after installing I cannot get around an error message that besweet cannot find nero, which it needs for AAC encoding. But I don't plan to do anything with AAC, just want to use AC3 of MP3. Is there a easy way around this, just to get it working without having to mess with nero? (I have full nero 6 installed, besweet itself works perfectly when converting ac3 to mp3).

stax76

22nd March 2006, 14:59

@flipflink

If you have Nero 6 installed it should find it and not ask, if you do not use AAC it should not ask because it's not needed so even after a quick code review I really don't know what's going on, please submit a bug report (in the main menu click Help/Send Bug Report) and tell me the exact message.

Moat

22nd March 2006, 16:21

agonia

22nd March 2006, 18:36

how can i split output file in to 2CDs, like AutoGK does automatically

stax76

22nd March 2006, 19:00

@agonia

It's not supported, how about using single CD or DVD?

LRN

22nd March 2006, 21:45

Mp4box can split mp4's. There should be some tools for avi and mkv too...
I prefer one-large-file way though.

ppet

23rd March 2006, 08:22

how can i split output file in to 2CDs, like AutoGK does automatically
You can do it with Yamb : http://yamb.unite-video.com/
You can choose how to split : by size or duration

It's possible to mux (video, audio, subtitles and chapters), split&join and extract!

agonia

23rd March 2006, 21:44

thanks very much ppet

DiJayy

25th March 2006, 09:14

hellfred

25th March 2006, 17:01

For some reason, when I'm muxing an AC3 file with my project using staxrip, the audio gets cut off at the end of the file, but only when I encode on my laptop, my PC doesn't have any problems. On a 10-minute video, 1minute and 30s was cut off the end. AVIMux-GUI works fine, wondering if there's anything I can do about it.
Try copying the working StaxRip with it's applications (x264.exe, mp4box, besweet etc.) from your working PC to the laptop and retry. If everything works fine than, you have a problem with one off the apps being buggy.

Hellfred

boombastic

25th March 2006, 19:05

DiJayy

26th March 2006, 06:28

Now it won't work on either computer, it cuts massive amounts of audio off of the end, a 21minute video yielded a 5minute ac3 file. This is extremely annoying and is the fault of ProjectX, for one, why is it necessary as vdubmod can demux ac3 files from mpeg2 streams, how do I set staxrip to use vdub to demux the mpeg2 stream instead of ProjectX? Or if I can fix ProjectX that will work as well, but what could be wrong with it, is my java version too old or something? Maybe too new?

J2RE SE v1.5.0_06

EDIT: I just disabled the ProjectX section of the performs, DGIndex automatically demuxes the AC3 audio anyway, what exactly is the point of ProjectX? Are there audio formats VDubMod and DGIndex won't demux?

stax76

26th March 2006, 07:53

Can you give a brief explaination on when and how to use "PostProcessing mode" (now called Batch mode)? I use to encode several video during the night with almost the same parameters.can it be useful for me?

I can't explain it much better than it is already explained in the context help.

I just disabled the ProjectX section of the performs, DGIndex automatically demuxes the AC3 audio anyway, what exactly is the point of ProjectX? Are there audio formats VDubMod and DGIndex won't demux?

ProjectX usually works better than DGIndex, it's known to be reliable, if it fails on your stream you can configure StaxRip to use any command line compatible demuxer and report the bug to the ProjectX author, I'm confident he can fix it.

DiJayy

26th March 2006, 08:32

Yeah, DGIndex results in out-of-sync audio, this is annoying.

stax76

26th March 2006, 11:06

@DiJayy

That means both, ProjectX and DGIndex fails on your stream, you can do the following things:

Use another capture application, I recommend DVBViewer, it has very similar characteristics like MediaMonkey: huge feature set, huge COM automation SDK and lot's of extensions, skinnable, cheap.
Configure StaxRip to use another demuxer if you can find a command line demuxer that works better.
Demux manually if you can find a working demuxer and open the demuxed files.
Contact the authors of the demuxers that fail, if they got bugs they might be able to fix it with your help.

Zorrander

27th March 2006, 04:22

i'm running into an odd problem with some avi files I'm trying to demux and convert to x264. The files in question will open up in virtualdub and then it comes up with an error saying failed to decompress frame 0. These are Xvid files and I have Xvid installed.. not sure what else to do at this point in time. Any suggestions?

heinz57g

27th March 2006, 09:36

stax, just a suggestion also for your own site: on the support page you nicely mention all the supported formats for the output files. wouldnt it make sense to also mention all supported formats for the source files? or is there a legal reason not to do so?

greetings - heinz -

3dsnar

27th March 2006, 09:47

Hi Stax, once we talked about possibility of including
mp3 5.1 (Aud-X) format in your software.
You requested a CLI exec.
It has been prepared (big kudos to Dimzon for it).
please follow the link:
http://www.gotdotnet.com/workspaces/workspace.aspx?id=1bb59ddf-901b-43a5-bd54-b0999e8e223e

and let me know if this is ok.
:thanks:

heinz57g

27th March 2006, 11:42

hoppla, i admit i am still trying things out (and wildly reading everything here in the forum), but this
does not look right, does it?

encoding a WMV file into AVI, using strictly default seting of STAXRIP. worked fine, but ...

- after two passes STAXRIP stops with the NEXT button telling me file already exists, wants
to overwrite it, and starts entire process anew? and again, and again? shouldnt it somehow stop
with a DONE mssg or similar?

- worse: orginal file size 200MB, resulting AVi is 0MB!

what have i done wrong, or where is my thinking wrong?

greetings - heinz -

stax76

27th March 2006, 12:40

@Zorrander

What happens if you open the files manually in VirtualDub?

stax, just a suggestion also for your own site: on the support page you nicely mention all the supported formats for the output files. wouldnt it make sense to also mention all supported formats for the source files? or is there a legal reason not to do so?

Somehow almost anything can be opened, some things might need some basic knowledge and configuration.

@3dsnar

I can add it, maybe you and dimzon can give me some tips in case there is no good documentation.

- after two passes STAXRIP stops with the NEXT button telling me file already exists, wants
to overwrite it, and starts entire process anew? and again, and again? shouldnt it somehow stop
with a DONE mssg or similar?

I think the fact the target file exist and main dialog reappeared is enough indication that the processing is finished though I agree it might be confusing for a new user, for old users a message box might be bothersome.

- worse: orginal file size 200MB, resulting AVi is 0MB!

what have i done wrong, or where is my thinking wrong?

After encoding click 'Help/Send Bug Report'.

3dsnar

27th March 2006, 13:11

I can add it, maybe you and dimzon can give me some tips in case there is no good documentation.
If you have any problems, or questions,
please follow this thread, and Dimzon or I will be able to help
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=109226
I think that if you download the project you will find information
on the arguments used.
Thank you.

heinz57g

27th March 2006, 13:21

stax, have to apologize, but this happens when one looks at 400+ forum entries all night long and the eyes are slower than the brain:

it should have read 200MB resulting into 800MB!

default for XVID seems to be the fixed file size, resulting in above. changing it to 'constant quality' brings a 280MB result, better ... but still larger than the original.

but whatever setting is applied, it is not stored, so when next time opening StaxRip, it is back to the old default settings. uncomfortable, at least.

>> wouldnt it make sense to also mention all supported formats for the source files?

** Somehow almost anything can be opened

well, a basic list might be helpful to dummies like me, but who are unfortunately the major part of people who need a prog like yours. i am totally amazed at the competence and knowledge that you and many many others here in the forum show, and the persistence you all follow up on issues and problems. if i would wear a hat, i would take it off now in honor of all of you.

but to get the prog out in numbers, you also need those 'others' like me. and some of us are rather friendly people too!

>> after two passes STAXRIP stops with the NEXT button

** ... main dialog reappeared is enough indication that the processing is finished

sorry, really not if there is a NEXT button showing up! telling you to go on. trust me, i know the effect you are talking about: when you yourself develop something, or when you are one that works with it daily, you overlook those little nooks and corners the average user falls into.

and a NEW user will only become an OLD user if he does not give up confused at the very beginning, but is given a reasonable way of learning.

>> old users a message box might be bothersome

seriously? an old user might not like a DONE mssg and a BING in the background when something finishes after an hour or two? then he would have to throw out some 90% of the progs he already has on his computer, be they freeware/shareware or purely commercial ones.

yes, you have every right to consider your prog to be for a different group of users, and maybe i am wrong wanting it to be in the foolproof AUTOGK league. but i hope i dont sound to selfish when i say you will do a lot of us a favor occasionally thinking of us too.

greetings - heinz -

stax76

27th March 2006, 14:21

@heinz57g

I understand your pain and your points are valid, there is lot's of room for improvements for all kind of users, unfortunately I don't have the time to address all the issues, so sorry and I hope you can understand. Did you read the help? This should solve some problems.

heinz57g

27th March 2006, 14:32

stax, tks, and if anybody understand a time problem, it is me.

and yes, i read the help over and over again, and 90% of the entries here. the remaining 10% were so much over my head, i gave up.

so, if some of my points are valid, and you get some time sometimes, then some might get fixed or adjusted? what tempts you? chocolate? wine or beer from a country you never had any from?

greetings - heinz -

PS: a strange one just crept up while testing: i was asked to update AVYSYNTH from within your program, but while doing so, it broke off after telling me it needed writing permission to the registry, and i should have admin rights. well, there is only one user to this computer, with no restrictions whatosever, and thats me. now StaxRip refuses to run, always requesting AVYSYNTH to be installed, and then breaking off. there we are. possibly nothing to do with StaxRip directly, but ...

laserfan

27th March 2006, 15:39

>> after two passes STAXRIP stops with the NEXT button

** ... main dialog reappeared is enough indication that the processing is finished

sorry, really not if there is a NEXT button showing upHeinz, I think as far as your discomfort with the way this works you should know that the more you use StaxRip the more you appreciate that it gives the VISUAL CLUE that something needs your attention, by highlighting it (iirc these look orange on my display).

I would not WANT Stax to change the above behavior, because often times I am making two encodings from one source; one an SD and another an HD. So I'd rather it just does what it does and let me decide if I want to change the output name and tweak the encoding parameters for another go...

IMO the UI takes some getting used-to, but now that I have used it for a couple weeks I am growing to really appreciate what stax has accomplished.

Zorrander

27th March 2006, 16:38

@Zorrander

What happens if you open the files manually in VirtualDub?

Somehow almost anything can be opened, some things might need some basic knowledge and configuration.

They load and will play without a problem... the audio file is split out, but Staxrip doesn't seem to be able to read the video. I've figured out that these are actually DIVX files I created with SimpleDivx and not Xvid files. I used AutoGK to reencode one of these into Xvid and will see if it works when I get home from work today. The reason I wanted to do this was because I used way too high of a bitrate on these and would like to combine/compress them into x264. I have a feeling it's something screwy with the way SimpleDivx encodes into Divx files and not a problem with Staxrip. Xvid avi files work without any problems at all.

Update - it works ok now after re-encoding it into Xvid. Something is screwy with Divx or these Divx files... I'll keep messing with it and see what I come up with.

Gawwad

27th March 2006, 20:17

2 small requests please http://www.asmilies.com/smiliespic/msn/010.gif

1. can u please add support for the extension ".mpeg" just like how u did it last time for the ".dat" extension
.mpeg = .mpg

2. can u please disable the "packed bitstream" option for xvid on default so we can get ultimate standalone divx player compatibility
bcz with my stand alone divx player, i 've noticed that the playback of the video files that were made by staxrip is quite jerky
so the only way to solve this plm is to uncheck the "packed bitstream" box from the xvid setting on each new encode which is quite dull!
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8486/34qi.jpg
i think the majority of people don't want "packed bitstream" as it gives jerky playback on most of standalone divx players

heinz57g

27th March 2006, 21:16

gawwad, stax, that basically emphasizes what i said only minutes ago: there should be a SAVE SETTINGS possibility, so besides default values (which never will be everybodys favorite) one can set his preferred values, and stick to them even after a reboot. i used the FIXED SIZE setting as an example, you (gawwad) used PACKED BITSTREAM OFF, but we are both saying the same, no?

greetings - heinz -

laserfan

27th March 2006, 23:02

You guys do know that you can set-up both Templates which have your settings pre-saved to them as well as Encoder Profiles w/whatever XviD settings you want?

Oh, and the Default Project (which determines what all the settings are when you first start the program) can be set to the Target Size or Encoder settings or anything you want!

While it may not be immediately obvious, however you might want to set this thing up is easily doable in staxrip.