BeLight 0.22 beta 8 released

[Paulcat]

It's because BeLight doesn't like that you transcode a lossy file to an other lossy file.... :sly: :D

More seriously. The extension of your input file is in capital letter, right ? If yes rename it in lower case. I just fixed this issue...

btw, try to describe the bugs more precisely in the future...Copy here the logfile at least. Thanks.

No, actually the extension was lower case. The file did transcode correctly, it was just that the progress bar moved far too quickly for the actual work being done. Oh, and the final percentages were 0% as well. There were no anomalies in the logfile..

[Kurtnoise]

mmmh strange...So, :logfile: In addition, try to create a short sample from your input file and then send it to me.

[tw1164]

Sorry this question has been answered before, I search but didn't find a posting. When I use belight 0.22b5 it sometimes brings up a popbox saying "This is the commandline verison a GUI is available at dspguru.doom9.org" I've tried rename besweet.exe file and have only a besweet.dll file in the belight folder, but that doesn't work. I've only started to get this popbox w/ the 0.22b5 update.

[Kurtnoise]

huh ?

1/ Did you grab the whole package or only the .zip file ?

2/ Did you use/write your own command line in the dedicated area ?


Suggestion : grab the BeLight-0.22b5_General.exe package and install it. It contains all the necessary. Then run BeLight and load your files. No need to rename something.

[neo_anderson]

i have the p4.exe version , but aac encoding won't complete, even when those nero aac dll's are copied in belight folder

[Kurtnoise]

Did you read my last posts above ? Try to describe more precisely your problem... :angry: Is it too complicated for you, humm ??? I don't know what kind of input file did you use..What command ? and the logfile where is it ? Extension of your input file is in lower case ? If it's in capital letter try to change it...

[azsd]

I have convert mulity ac3 files to wav,the ac3 file in bottom of list have been convert like other list item but no wav files generated.
if I convert 01.ac3,02.ac3,03.ac3,there is still have decoding step on 03.ac3,but no 03.wav&03.log produced.

if I unchecked 01 and 02 in list,then do the convert,after 2 minunts,there still no more output files.

[neo_anderson]

d-uh, ur p4 version cannot convert ac3 to aac, but general version does fine!

[Kurtnoise]

d-uh, ur p4 version cannot convert ac3 to aac, but general version does fine!
:eek:


I have convert mulity ac3 files to wav,the ac3 file in bottom of list have been convert like other list item but no wav files generated.
if I convert 01.ac3,02.ac3,03.ac3,there is still have decoding step on 03.ac3,but no 03.wav&03.log produced.

if I unchecked 01 and 02 in list,then do the convert,after 2 minunts,there still no more output files.
fixed...;)


@2Cool : what do you think about that ? :D

http://kurtnoise.free.fr/BeLight_log.gif

I need to tune again some different things but it works. This weekend I'll release a new beta with this trick.

[MacAddict]

d-uh, ur p4 version cannot convert ac3 to aac, but general version does fine!
PIV version works great for me here. GUI still has a bug where it sometimes defaults to Spanish language when launched though. Great tool though!

[ron spencer]

another beta on top of 5? Wow thanks!!! this is nice

[Kurtnoise]

beta 6 (http://corecodec.org/frs/?group_id=45&release_id=140#r140) is out...:)


changelog:

- Add Belight log file (Menu View --> Log). Many thanks to 2Cool for the suggestion.
- Add Italian Language. Thanks to Drak0
- Fix the input lower case extension missing.
- Fix the loop transcoding process with N input files.


btw, don't expect to have some answers for my part or new builds in the next weeks. I take some holidays...;) I'll be back in september...Thanks for all.

++
Kurtnoise

[ron spencer]

well....if you want a good vacation you should make another beta (beta 7)...you know, 7 is "lucky"...so how about it?

thanks as always!!!!

[Kurtnoise]

No...It's 13 my lucky digit. ;)

[ChronoCross]

Errors found in Beta 6:

a) Partial encoding doesn't work. it doesn't cut the right timeframe
b) if you encode something, then try to encode it again in a different format. An About box comes up and you have to restart the program to encode the same file again.

[MacAddict]

Errors found in Beta 6:
b) if you encode something, then try to encode it again in a different format. An About box comes up and you have to restart the program to encode the same file again.
I can definitely confirm this one with the normal and P4 build.

[Deckerr]

How do you save the file you are encoding to a different folder? It will only save it in the source folder for me.

[Zyphon]

@Deckerr

In the FIle menu, select Save and choose a folder. :)

EDIT: I just tested what I said above and it doesn't work. Another bug?

I even checked the BeSweet Command Line from the Edit Menu and although the commandline had the correct output Path that I selected in the Save option, BeLight still saved my resulting .mp2 in the same folder as the source. :(

[Deckerr]

Thanks for that. It's not just me losing my mind then.

[Zyphon]

Thanks for that.
Your Welcome. :)

It's not just me losing my mind then.
Not unless we are both losing our minds. :D

[cw_uk]

Not sure if this has been mentioned but the ac3 to mp2 preset uses Hybrid gain as the default this setting causes nothing but problems on mp2. when muxing with mpv/m2v etc the audio is fine for about 5 mins then cuts out have tested this on multiple files using various settings and it always comes down to hybrid gain where as pre gain works perfectly.

small request, would it be possible to store the presets in a ini file so we could use our own or edit the originals. ?

[ricardo.santos]

first time user
really nice work!!!
better gui than besweet

[Kurtnoise]

Errors found in Beta 6:

a) Partial encoding doesn't work. it doesn't cut the right timeframe
b) if you encode something, then try to encode it again in a different format. An About box comes up and you have to restart the program to encode the same file again.
ok...thanks for the bugs report. I'll fix that asap.

[Kurtnoise]

I even checked the BeSweet Command Line from the Edit Menu and although the commandline had the correct output Path that I selected in the Save option, BeLight still saved my resulting .mp2 in the same folder as the source. :(
oOo well...I see the problem. I'll fix this issue as soon as I come back home.

[Kurtnoise]

Not sure if this has been mentioned but the ac3 to mp2 preset uses Hybrid gain as the default this setting causes nothing but problems on mp2. when muxing with mpv/m2v etc the audio is fine for about 5 mins then cuts out have tested this on multiple files using various settings and it always comes down to hybrid gain where as pre gain works perfectly.
mmh...really strange. Can anyone have reproduce this ?

If it works with pregain, than use it instead of hybridgain.


small request, would it be possible to store the presets in a ini file so we could use our own or edit the originals. ?
if you use always the same settings for your own audio format, BeLight enables to remember your last settings when you (re)load it.

[Kurtnoise]

and my last sentence for Doom9... :) I hope you read it.

First of all, thank you for these great guides. If I had known that one day I would have seen my work on your website, I won't believe it... :p

So, I would like to point you some 2-3 notes :
For AAC :

Check Quality to select the encoding mode: Fast speeds up encoding at the expense of quality, and High does just the inverse.
The Fast & High Modes have the same speed up for encoding. The big difference is that the Fast Mode seems to use now a new encoding engine which gives the best results. That's why in the last BeLight beta I switch the AAC presets with this Mode.


For Vorbis :
First, I won't recommend to use OggDSF now. It's not updated and not developped anymore. For decoding, I would recommend to have the last CoreVorbis and to encode within BeSweet, I prefer to have the libvorbis.


In general : can I put a web link of your audio guides directly in my BeLight packages ?

btw, :thanks:

[Doom9]

I'll change the AAC thing.. I must admit I never bothered to test much. One thing though, what if you select no mode at all?

First, I won't recommend to use OggDSF now.Did I? I thought I recommended libvorbis but it looks like I was wrong. I guess I should also replace the oggds filters on my site with something else. Any suggestions?

can I put a web link of your audio guides directly in my BeLight packages ?Certainly.

[boombastic]

I can't find a way to change the preset setting for mp3, i'd like to always use vbr new for my encodes

[cw_uk]

mmh...really strange. Can anyone have reproduce this ?

If it works with pregain, than use it instead of hybridgain.



if you use always the same settings for your own audio format, BeLight enables to remember your last settings when you (re)load it.

thxs for the reply :D i have a mate testing my findings at the moment, from what i seen its related to the header somehow because the files are exactly the same size. but when muxed together with the mpv/m2v behave diffrently.

i had noticed that it saves the settings however it does not respect those settings i have to deselect them then reselect them for instance i had pregain selected but it used hybrid gain also priority setting seems to always default back to high. :confused:

EDIT: Few Log Files..

Pregain:

BeSweet v1.5b30 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using azid.dll v1.9 (b922) by Midas (midas@egon.gyaloglo.hu).
Using MP2enc.dll v1.129 (23/5/2002), Engine 1.129 <http://www.cdex.n3.net>.

Logging start : 08/18/05 , 19:01:28.

BeSweet.exe -core( -input \Audio\VTS_08_1 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3 -output \Audio\VTS_08_1 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp2 -logfile \Audio\VTS_08_1 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.log ) -azid( -s dplii -c light -L -3db ) -ota( -d 0 -g max ) -toolame( -m d -b 112 )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : \VTS_08_1 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
[00:00:00:000] | Output: \VTS_08_1 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp2
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | Overall Track Gain: 10.371dB
[00:00:00:000] +-------- AZID -------
[00:00:00:000] | Input Channels Mode: 3/2, Bitrate: 448kbps
[00:00:00:000] | Output Stereo mode: Dolby surround 2 compatible
[00:00:00:000] | Total Gain: 0.000dB, Compression: Light
[00:00:00:000] | LFE levels: To LR -3.0dB, To LFE 0.0dB
[00:00:00:000] | Center mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Surround mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Dialog normalization: No
[00:00:00:000] | Rear channels filtering: No
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] +------- MP2ENC ------
[00:00:00:000] | Bitrate method : CBR
[00:00:00:000] | MP2 bitrate : 112
[00:00:00:000] | Channels Mode : Dual Channel
[00:00:00:000] | Error Protection: No
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------
[02:08:01:408] Conversion Completed !
[02:08:01:408] Actual Avg. Bitrate : 112kbps
[00:53:47:000] <-- Transcoding Duration

Logging ends : 08/18/05 , 19:55:15.



Scanning video stream for a sequence header and pulldown type ...
3:2 pulldown detected ...

Scanning video stream for pictures ...
Found 184180 picture headers.
Video stream information
Stream length : 713105404
Total time (seconds) : 7681
Sequence start : 12617
Sequence end : 0
No. Pictures : 184180
No. Groups : 12617
No. I Frames : 12617 avg. size 16696 bytes
No. P Frames : 53406 avg. size 4656 bytes
No. B Frames : 118157 avg. size 2147 bytes
No. D Frames : 0 avg. size 0 bytes
Horizontal size : 352
Vertical size : 480
Aspect ratio : 0.6735
Picture rate : 29.970 frames/sec, 3:2 pulldown detected
Bit rate : 1125000 bytes/sec (9000000 bits/sec)
Computed avg rate : 116250 bytes/sec (930000 bits/sec)
Computed max rate : 552200 bytes/sec (4417600 bits/sec)
Vbv buffer size : 229376 bytes
CSPF : 0

Scanning audio stream for access units information
Found 320059 audio frame headers.
MPEG audio stream information
Stream length : 107539824
Syncwords : 320059
Frames : 320059 size 336 bytes
Frames : 0 size 337 bytes
Layer : 2
CRC checksums : no
Bit rate : 14000 bytes/sec (112 kbit/sec)
Frequency : 48.0 kHz
Mode : 2 dual channel
Mode extension : 0
Copyright bit : 0 no copyright
Original/Copy : 0 copy
Emphasis : 0 none

Multiplexing information
Video stream data rate : 1125000 bytes/sec (9000000 bits/sec)
Audio stream 1 data rate : 14000 bytes/sec (112000 bits/sec)
Overhead data rate : 17950 bytes/sec (143600 bits/sec)
Total data rate : 1156950 bytes/sec (9255600 bits/sec)

Multiplexing file \muxed\xx.mpg
Finished multiplexing \muxed\xx.mpg

Hybrid Gain:

BeSweet v1.5b30 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using azid.dll v1.9 (b922) by Midas (midas@egon.gyaloglo.hu).
Using MP2enc.dll v1.129 (23/5/2002), Engine 1.129 <http://www.cdex.n3.net>.

Logging start : 08/18/05 , 20:08:33.

BeSweet.exe -core( -input \Audio\VTS_08_1 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3 -output \Audio\VTS_08_1 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp2 -logfile \Audio\VTS_08_1 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.log ) -azid( -s dplii -c light -L -3db ) -ota( -d 0 -hybridgain ) -toolame( -m d -b 112 )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : \Audio\VTS_08_1 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
[00:00:00:000] | Output: \Audio\VTS_08_1 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp2
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | PostGain normalize to : 0.97
[00:00:00:000] +-------- AZID -------
[00:00:00:000] | Input Channels Mode: 3/2, Bitrate: 448kbps
[00:00:00:000] | Output Stereo mode: Dolby surround 2 compatible
[00:00:00:000] | Total Gain: 8.000dB, Compression: Light
[00:00:00:000] | LFE levels: To LR -3.0dB, To LFE 0.0dB
[00:00:00:000] | Center mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Surround mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Dialog normalization: -2dB
[00:00:00:000] | Rear channels filtering: No
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] +------- MP2ENC ------
[00:00:00:000] | Bitrate method : CBR
[00:00:00:000] | MP2 bitrate : 112
[00:00:00:000] | Channels Mode : Dual Channel
[00:00:00:000] | Error Protection: No
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------
[02:08:01:408] Gain of 2.0dB had been asserted to file.
[02:08:01:408] Conversion Completed !
[02:08:01:408] Actual Avg. Bitrate : 112kbps
[00:12:14:000] <-- Transcoding Duration

Logging ends : 08/18/05 , 20:20:47.


Scanning video stream for a sequence header and pulldown type ...
3:2 pulldown detected ...

Scanning video stream for pictures ...
Found 184180 picture headers.
Video stream information
Stream length : 713105404
Total time (seconds) : 7681
Sequence start : 12617
Sequence end : 0
No. Pictures : 184180
No. Groups : 12617
No. I Frames : 12617 avg. size 16696 bytes
No. P Frames : 53406 avg. size 4656 bytes
No. B Frames : 118157 avg. size 2147 bytes
No. D Frames : 0 avg. size 0 bytes
Horizontal size : 352
Vertical size : 480
Aspect ratio : 0.6735
Picture rate : 29.970 frames/sec, 3:2 pulldown detected
Bit rate : 1125000 bytes/sec (9000000 bits/sec)
Computed avg rate : 116250 bytes/sec (930000 bits/sec)
Computed max rate : 552200 bytes/sec (4417600 bits/sec)
Vbv buffer size : 229376 bytes
CSPF : 0

Scanning audio stream for access units information
Found 19303 audio frame headers.
MPEG audio stream information
Stream length : 6485808
Syncwords : 19303
Frames : 19303 size 336 bytes
Frames : 0 size 337 bytes
Layer : 2
CRC checksums : no
Bit rate : 14000 bytes/sec (112 kbit/sec)
Frequency : 48.0 kHz
Mode : 2 dual channel
Mode extension : 0
Copyright bit : 0 no copyright
Original/Copy : 0 copy
Emphasis : 0 none

Multiplexing information
Video stream data rate : 1125000 bytes/sec (9000000 bits/sec)
Audio stream 1 data rate : 14000 bytes/sec (112000 bits/sec)
Overhead data rate : 17950 bytes/sec (143600 bits/sec)
Total data rate : 1156950 bytes/sec (9255600 bits/sec)

Multiplexing file \muxed\xx.mpg
Finished multiplexing \muxed\xx.mpg

[Kurtnoise]

I'll change the AAC thing.. I must admit I never bothered to test much. One thing though, what if you select no mode at all?
IIRC, bsn uses High Mode by default.

Did I?
Not exactly but I've seen that you mention this OggDSF filter. :) The only thing which could be interesting with this filter it's to have the possibility to encode in vorbis with some DirectShow tools. But it's not up-to-date.

Any suggestions?
Like I said, I vote for CoreVorbis concerning decoding stream. For encoding, it depends of the tools. For BeSweet, I vote for libvorbis.dll. I'll try to bump DSPguru to include this library directly in BeSweet package.

[Kurtnoise]

I can't find a way to change the preset setting for mp3, i'd like to always use vbr new for my encodes
Change the Variable Mode...(Fast Mode corresponds to vbr new)

[Kurtnoise]

i had noticed that it saves the settings however it does not respect those settings i have to deselect them
which ones exactly ?

then reselect them for instance i had pregain selected but it used hybrid gain also priority setting seems to always default back to high. :confused:
for priority, it's normal because it's not saved :). I can add this.
for pregain/hybridgain : it depends of your output formats.

[cw_uk]

i have added a few log files to my earlier post that shows the diffrence between hybrid and pregain looks like it stops muxing at a frame early on. namely its just the mode hybrid/pregain/postgain where it fails to detect the changes on starting up however selecting and deselecting fixes it. prority would be a nice feature as high has a habit of killing the computer. :D

[boombastic]

sorry if i repeat myself but would be very usefull anyway the possibility to create or edit presets.Is there an ini file that i can modify?

[CiNcH]

Tranzcode support seems to be broken in BeLight 0.22 Beta 6.

[Zyphon]

oOo well...I see the problem. I'll fix this issue as soon as I come back home.

Hi Kurt,

Thank you for looking into the save as option, I appreciate all the hard work you have done on this excellent GUI.

:thanks:

[Esc]

Hi Kurt,
a little bug report here. I am using BeLight v22b6 and it seems to not save the priority. I put it to "idle' and when I run the program next time it's not set to anything in the menu. And when I start processing it doesn't feel like idle either.
There is also another trick it can't do. I open an ac3 file. Set it to be recoded into mp3 with abr 128. Run it. Then without closing it or anything I rename the new mp3 file and switch BeSweet from "bitrate" to "quality". If I try to run it again now, it says "This is a command line program. You can download a GUI for it at: http://DSPguru.doom9.org"
Thanks!

[booboodoll]

I'm not sure if this feature is fully functional but in the last version it seemed to be working except the last file in the queue wouldn't go through. however in this version, it seems that sometimes it tries to put through all the files in the queue at once and messes up so nothing happens and when it does work the filenames come out correct but the content of the output files is all mixed up. I've been getting duplicate audio files in content eventhough the names of the files are correct.

for example:

1a.ac3 --> 1a.mp4 (correct)
1b.ac3 --> 1b.mp4 (correct)
2a.ac3 --> 2a.mp4 (when I listen to it, it's actually 1a)
2b.ac3 --> 2b.mp4 (actually 3b)
3a.ac3 --> 3a.mp4 (actually 4a)
3b.ac3 --> 3b.mp4 (actually 1b)
4a
4b
etc. (I think you get the picture)

is anyone else having this problem? sorry if someone else has posted about this already...

[kbello]

I got the same problem with last beta

[humax]

Yes

when i make queue encoding always track 1 is used .

1AC3 - 1 MP3
2AC3 - 2 MP3 but track from Nr. 1

[Kurtnoise]

sorry if i repeat myself but would be very usefull anyway the possibility to create or edit presets.Is there an ini file that i can modify?
Yes...I'm thinking about it. My holidays are completely finished now. The BeLight dev should go on...:)

[Kurtnoise]

Tranzcode support seems to be broken in BeLight 0.22 Beta 6.
Not broken...but rather not finalized. I need a Tranzcode update to finish this part.

[Kurtnoise]

a little bug report here. I am using BeLight v22b6 and it seems to not save the priority. I put it to "idle' and when I run the program next time it's not set to anything in the menu. And when I start processing it doesn't feel like idle either.
The priority settings are not save. I can add this. Sure.

There is also another trick it can't do. I open an ac3 file. Set it to be recoded into mp3 with abr 128. Run it. Then without closing it or anything I rename the new mp3 file and switch BeSweet from "bitrate" to "quality". If I try to run it again now, it says "This is a command line program. You can download a GUI for it at: http://DSPguru.doom9.org"
Thanks!
Yep...already reported.

[Kurtnoise]

I'm not sure if this feature is fully functional but in the last version it seemed to be working except the last file in the queue wouldn't go through. however in this version, it seems that sometimes it tries to put through all the files in the queue at once and messes up so nothing happens and when it does work the filenames come out correct but the content of the output files is all mixed up. I've been getting duplicate audio files in content eventhough the names of the files are correct.

for example:

1a.ac3 --> 1a.mp4 (correct)
1b.ac3 --> 1b.mp4 (correct)
2a.ac3 --> 2a.mp4 (when I listen to it, it's actually 1a)
2b.ac3 --> 2b.mp4 (actually 3b)
3a.ac3 --> 3a.mp4 (actually 4a)
3b.ac3 --> 3b.mp4 (actually 1b)
4a
4b
etc. (I think you get the picture)

is anyone else having this problem? sorry if someone else has posted about this already...
I'll check this...Thanks for the bug report.

[dimzon]

Can you add support for my BeSweet bsn.dll replacement?
Thanx!

[Kurtnoise]

Probably yes...but I need to test it before. ;)

Good job anyway. Now, if you have too much free time an avs plugin for besweet could be great also...

[Dark-Cracker]

or a dts input, as beesweet plugin :)

[Kurtnoise]

Can you add support for my BeSweet bsn.dll replacement?


Something like that ??

http://kurtnoise.free.fr/belight_aacplus.gif

;)


/me goes back to dev...

[m0rtal]

Kurtnoise13, you are a genius ;)

[dimzon]

an avs plugin for besweet could be great also...
What does you exatly mean?