BeLight 0.22 beta 8 released

[Kurtnoise]

Hi guys,

Actually, I'm developping a new Graphical User Interface for BeSweet, one of the best audio tools for transcoding. ;) Why a new one ? Coz the official from DaniDin seems to be out dated now (AAC support by example) and there are some bugs (Dialog Normalisation Reduction...). In addition, some newbies can be troubled by the interface...That's why I created BeLight (http://coreforge.org/projects/belight/). :D

New thread for BeLight can be found here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=122700)


http://kurtnoise.free.fr/BeLight/BeLight.gif


Features :
- AC3, WAV, OGG, MP2, MP3, AVI, VOB, LST & MUX in input.
- AAC/MP4 (3GP Reference, Faac, Nero Digital and WinAmp encoders), AC3, MP2 (tooLame or MP2Enc), MP3 (Lame), VORBIS, WAV and AIFF in ouput.
- Most of BeSweet functions (Gain, SSRC, Boost, Partial Encoding, Change Frame Rate, Soundtouch...)
- MultiLanguages Support (German, Spanish, French, English, Polish, Russian, Portuguese, Slovenian, Hungarian, Serbian, Italian, Japanese, Greek, Nederlands...more are welcome ;))
- Delay Detection for input files.
- Some AAC/AC3/MP2/MP3/VORBIS/WAV Presets.
- Mux File Wizard (in version 0.22)
- File List Creator (in version 0.22)


Notes :
- For the moment, BeLight 0.22 branches doesn't support AVI, VOB Files as input files. If you want to use these formats, I'd suggest you to try BeLight 0.21 instead.
- For AVI and VOB as input files you need VOBinput.dll (http://besweet.notrace.dk/VOBInput.zip).
- Tu use negative q values for Vorbis Transcoding, libvorbis.dll (http://www.rarewares.org/ogg.html) is needed.
- If CoreCodec.org is down, you can grab the last versions here (http://kurtnoise.free.fr/BeLight/).
- There are 3 packages now at CoreCodec.org (Normal, Lancer and P4). The main difference between these 3 builds comes from libvorbis. The Normal version corresponds to normal libvorbis.dll, Lancer bundle is optimized for speed without loose quality and P4 version refers to libvorbis.dll optimized for Pentium4 core. In addition, all versions use AoTuv enhancements.

How to use it :
First, grab the last BeSweet beta release in DSPGuru web Site (http://www.dspguru.doom9.net).Second, put BeLight in the same folder as BeSweet and load it.
Or you can install directly some BeLight package available in CoreCodec.org.

How to report some bugs:
Try to describe your bugs with some precision. First, post your complete logfile (which is in your input folder). And eventually the BeLight messages errors.


On my To Do List :
- Job List Support.
- BeSplit functions.
- UpMix functions.


Links to access directly in the thread :

BeLight 0.22


BeLight 0.22 beta 9 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=767501#post767501)

BeLight 0.22 beta 8 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=714118#post714118)

BeLight 0.22 beta 7 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=712524#post712524)

BeLight 0.22 beta 6 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=694226#post694226)

BeLight 0.22 beta 5 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=690452#post690452)
BeLight 0.22 beta 4 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=673885#post673885)
BeLight 0.22 beta 3 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=673355#post673355)
BeLight 0.22 beta 2 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=672875#post672875)
BeLight 0.22 beta 1 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=625374#post625374)




BeLight 0.21


BeLight 0.21 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=599637#post599637)




Feedback and/or suggestions are welcome. :p

[Sycho]

one thing that should be one the top of your "to do list" is a spell checker

hint: recommended

[SiXXGuNNZ]

nice++

I like what i see :)

[buzzqw]

Some hint
please: tooltip !
is not possible to encode in mp2 cbr
In abr mode (mp3) bitrate is always 128
Switching from preset to alt-preset not enable bitrate choice if in alt-preset is abr/cbr
hybrid gain seems not fuctional...

Good gui, but after some test i don't know what are standard settings..., could be possible to implement some preset ?

thanks

BHH

[Kurtnoise]

Originally posted by Sycho
one thing that should be one the top of your "to do list" is a spell checker
yeahh, my english is crap. :D Yes, I know. I'll fix it.


Ok for the hints...I'll add them in the next releases.

Originally posted by buzzqw is not possible to encode in mp2 cbr. In abr mode (mp3) bitrate is always 128. hybrid gain seems not fuctional...

My bad...This is a bug with Job List tab.:( I'll correct it. For the moment, don't push the Job List tab when you want to transcode. Stay in Output Audio Format tab.


Originally posted by buzzqw Switching from preset to alt-preset not enable bitrate choice if in alt-preset is abr/cbr
Ok...I see.

And yes, I'll add some presets.:cool: It's in my todo list now.



Thanks for your support. ;)

[ursamtl]

Looks promising. Un beau travail.

Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
Hi guys,

Actually, I'm developping a new Graphical User Interface for BeSweet, one of the best audio tools for transcoding. ;) Why a new one ? Coz the official from DaniDin seems to be out dated now (AAC support by example) and there are some bugs (Dialog Normalisation Reduction...). In addition, some newbies can be troubled by the interface...That's why I created BeLight (http://atlas2.tgv.net/~media-video/forum2/download.php?id=1543). :D

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Features :
- AC3, WAV, OGG, MP2, MP3 in input.
- AAC/MP4, AC3, MP2, MP3, VORBIS, WAV and AIFF in ouput.
- Most of BeSweet functions (Gain, SSRC, Boost, Partial Encoding, Change Frame Rate...)
- MultiLanguages Support (only French and English actually...more are welcome ;))
- Delay Detection for input files.




How to use it :
First, grab the last BeSweet beta release in DSPGuru web Site (http://www.dspguru.doom9.net).
Second, just put BeLight in the same folder as BeSweet.exe and load it.


On my To Do List
- Job List Support.
- Profiles for output Formats.
- AVI/VOB support for input.
- BeSplit functions.
- UpMix functions.


Feedback and/or suggestions are welcome. :p

[jorel]

Kurtnoise13, help please.in all links i got:
"Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /~media-video/forum2/download.php on this server."
any clue please? "we need that" ... thanks! :)

[Boulder]

@Kurtnoise13

If you already didn't add this, please consider disallowing the non-working resampling and changing frame rate (using BeSweet's internal routine) at the same time - or changing it so that SoundTouch is used, I think that works with simultaneous resampling.

[Kurtnoise]

@Jorel : did you use a firewall ?? coz all works fine here...:) Try it again maybe the server has some problems sometimes.


@Boulder : BeLight use -soundtouch routine for the Changing Frame Rate. ;) I tested quickly resampling + changing frame rate and all seems to be ok...

[Boulder]

Nice, will probably save the forum from a couple of bug reports:D

[filewalker]

I like your GUI style.Cool :)

But I'M waiting hard till VOB support for input is ready. I just use it for my backups.

Cu filewalker

[buzzqw]

btw why not implement an "ifo parsing mode" for encoding vob audio ? :D

BHH

[Kurtnoise]

Originally posted by buzzqw
btw why not implement an "ifo parsing mode" for encoding vob audio ? :D BHH
It's not necessary...:D BeSweet has already AVI/VOB support as input files. Yes, one more thing on my todo list.


I'll post a new release tonight. ;)

[filewalker]

I have a question concerning AAC settings:

Is it possible to add the profiles (first line) of the orginal Nero encoder settings. see here what I mean (http://people.freenet.de/pipliner/Nero.png)

It's helpful because the profiles show an overview of all seetings:
VBR/CBR
kbps range
VBR modes
AAC profiles


Cu filewalker

[Brother John]

Great work, Kurt!

BeLight definitely has a much easier to understand interface than BeSweetGUI.
And not only that: Even this first release does everything I'll ever need of BeSweet's features.

Only thing I'm missing at the moment is a show/copy command line function. I've already seen the checkbox in advanced options though, so I won't push you.

[Kurtnoise]

Here it is...the 0.16 (http://atlas2.tgv.net/~media-video/forum2/download.php?id=1545) is out ;)

Changelog:
- Corrected typos.
- Fixed some internal errors.
- Added Presets for AAC. --> yeahh filewalker ;)
- Added SuperEqualizer.
- Much More Hints.



Originally posted by Brother John
Only thing I'm missing at the moment is a show/copy command line function. I've already seen the checkbox in advanced options though, so I won't push you.
Yes...it's expected. Just be more patient..:) I'm not developper expert.

[MaXiMuS]

I LIKE !

:D :D :D

[neo75903]

Very nice work!
Love the clean interface.
It looks less nice on a win2k pc :(

[McoreD]

Appreciate your work, Kurtnoise13 :)

[Sakuya]

I might be just dumb but how do I get the conversion process to start? There's no start button. I put BeLight.exe in the same folder as BeSweet.exe and BeSweetGUI.exe. I clicked to add to job list but nothing happened. :eek:

Edit:
Nevermind! Found it at the very bottom. It was hidden due to my 800x600 resolution. :o

[Kurtnoise]

:thanks: guys...especially Doom9 for the news ;)




@Sakuya : the Job List isn't operational yet...

[filewalker]

:) Cool, thanks for the AAC profiles!

Cu filewalker

[filewalker]

Hi again,

when you are working on the VOB Input support *dream*, please don't forget to add substream selection and the delay adaption like in DanniDin's Gui "Set delay to"--> A/V

Thanks in advance!

Cu filewalker

[8mm]

really nice and very clear interface.
good work.
much better than the other gui.

what i would really like is the possiblility to switch between single input file (wav, mp3, ac3, mux, lst,...) and a multifile input mode.

not a single inputbox like now but six (maybe a flexible number for general multichannel usage) independend input boxes, with nice labels (front right, front left, center, rear left, rear right, lfe) in front of them. so i can independently assign my mono wav files, your prog generates the needed listfile in background and runs the besweet with this file. would be really great, so i don't have to play around with annoying listfiles.

http://www4.cnet.at/members/fdk/belight.png

greets

[Kurtnoise]

Well...I don't think it's really necessary. For multiple mono input files, you can use already lst file for that. It should work great. ;)

But for this :
what i would really like is the possiblility to switch between single input file (wav, mp3, ac3, mux, lst,...)
It's the main purpose of the Job List management. It will be perfect for that I think. ;) I'm working on it...


when you are working on the VOB Input support *dream*, please don't forget to add substream selection and the delay adaption like in DanniDin's Gui "Set delay to"--> A/V
I'll try..:)

[Pyscrow]

Fantastic - I use Besweet rarely, and never could get my head around the GUI. Took me ages to rework out how to use it each time I needed it!
thank you very much

[neo75903]

lolz idd, the previous GUI was so over complicated for my simple tasks i learned my self the command options :)

[AOC]

It's strange, but i also couldn't download belight from that url.
A message appears saying i do not have permission.

I put that url in one of that pages to surf anonymously the web and it did work.

[daphy]

mirrored on needfulthings (http://www.needfulthings.webhop.org) ;)


One big request!

what about a GUI for besplit -> every time I use it, I have to switch back in good old commandline times!

I can´t code and if I could, this would be the first on my list!

Maybe Kurtnoise13 or anyone else could take a look on this and create a nice GUI for little Daphy :rolleyes: :D :rolleyes: ;)

[Kurtnoise]

Many thanks daphy. ;)


For people who want to make a translation in your own language :
1°) Download this file (http://atlas2.tgv.net/~media-video/forum2/download.php?id=1548) and just do it.
2°) Please, respect the digits order and save your file by putting your own language in the name (by example : English.txt or Français.txt or Deutsh.txt or ελληνικός.txt or italiano.txt, etc...).
3°) When it's done, mail me the translated file at kurtnoise at free dot fr or PM here.

Thanks.

[jorel]

@ Kurtnoise13 and daphy
thanks for mirrors but i'm still getting 403 forbidden and not using firewall:
"Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /~media-video/forum2/viewtopic.php on this server."
from Kurtnoise13 signature and:
"Ação cancelada
O Internet Explorer não conseguiu se conectar à página da Web solicitada. A página pode não estar disponível no momento. "
from daphy's mirror. i try all day long and nothing came!
of course is my local problem. can one of you send me the files by mail? i do another mirror here for all in this side of the world (Brasil).
if is possible will be a double pleasure: one to get the files, another to mirror!

thanks in advance! :)

[AOC]

Originally posted by jorel
@ Kurtnoise13 and daphy
thanks for mirrors but i'm still getting 403 forbidden and not using firewall:
"Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /~media-video/forum2/viewtopic.php on this server."
from Kurtnoise13 signature and:
"Ação cancelada
O Internet Explorer não conseguiu se conectar à página da Web solicitada. A página pode não estar disponível no momento. "
from daphy's mirror. i try all day long and nothing came!
of course is my local problem. can one of you send me the files by mail? i do another mirror here for all in this side of the world (Brasil).
if is possible will be a double pleasure: one to get the files, another to mirror!

thanks in advance! :)

Hi Jorel, like i said in the last post, i have the same problem. I'm also from south america (Argentina).

Copy the url posted by Kurtnoise13, enter this site: http://anonymouse.ws and paste it.

I downloaded belight doing this.

This site hides your real ip and let you surf the web anonymously (using another ip)

Hope it works for you.

[daphy]

Hi everyone,

I am surprised to hear of problems - here in good old Europe the downloads works fine, anyway I found another mirror (http://www.free-codecs.com/download/BeLight.htm) on the net (was astonished that http://www.free-codecs.com hosts this file, too.

[jorel]

wow..thanks AOC.
:)
working at: http://anonymouse.ws/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://www.needfulthings.webhop.org/
(if i could not post this url here, please mod remove and excuse me)

thanks daphy, that links are working too! (i only saw in preview!)
;)

can i host here(as mirror) daphy?!?!

[Brother John]

I had some free time: German translation done.
Kurt, you got mail.

Stumbled over something in tooltip 2104 (OTA gain mode):
"For aac/mp4, use PostGain."
Shouldn't this read "use PreGain" as no AAC decoder reads postgain tags at the moment?
Kurt, if I'm wrong, could you please change 2104 in my translated file to "postgain", thx.

[Kurtnoise]

Originally posted by Brother John
I had some free time: German translation done.
Kurt, you got mail.
great...

Originally posted by Brother John
Stumbled over something in tooltip 2104 (OTA gain mode):
"For aac/mp4, use PostGain."
Shouldn't this read "use PreGain" as no AAC decoder reads postgain tags at the moment?
Kurt, if I'm wrong, could you please change 2104 in my translated file to "postgain", thx.
Yes I know...I forgot to change. Sorry..:o


@Jorel : as I said by PM, you can mirror BeLight. No problem. ;)

[MacAddict]

Is it me or is the 'alt-prest abr' function broken from within the GUI? My output is always 128kbps no matter what bitrate what I ask for.

Possible to implement the '--resample 44.1' LAME command in the next version for those us of that use sub 128 bitrates?

Nice work, thx!

[jorel]

Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
@Jorel : as I said by PM, you can mirror BeLight. No problem. ;)
done: BeLight (BR mirror) (http://www.jltoca.uaivip.com.br/Belight-0.16.zip)
and in my signature! :)

[ursamtl]

This project is looking nicer every time I check. Well done Kurt!

One thing I'd like to see if provision for burning a Dolby Digital Wave file, as in the -ddwav switch. Could you add this at some point?

[WinsomePix]

Hi --

Nice interface.

A couple of recommendations:

The program should know to open in the center of the screen based on the size/resolution of that particular machine. We have several machines with differing screen resolutions, and BeLight opens in a different place on screen on each one. On our notebook with an 1280x800 screen, BeLight opens with about a third of its window lost from sight below the bottom of the screen, and it has to be dragged to the center of the screen.

On our machines with 1024x768 screens the BeLight window opens with its bottom and right sides hidden from view. Also, even when one drags it to the center of the screen the window is a little bit too big for the screen at that resolution.

I have a feeling your monitor is set at 1280x1024, because on our machine with that resolution BeLight opens pretty much right in the middle of the screen

And, as mentioned by others, implementing direct imput of VOB files would be great.

Best of luck, and congrats on a nice interface.

[Kurtnoise]

Originally posted by MacAddict Is it me or is the 'alt-prest abr' function broken from within the GUI? My output is always 128kbps no matter what bitrate what I ask for.
It's fixed now...thanks for the bug report.

Originally posted by MacAddict Possible to implement the '--resample 44.1' LAME command in the next version for those us of that use sub 128 bitrates?
sure... :)


Originally posted by ursamtlOne thing I'd like to see if provision for burning a Dolby Digital Wave file, as in the -ddwav switch. Could you add this at some point?
Yes...I can do it.


@WinSomePix : ok...I see. I'll try to modify that.

@Daphy : about your request :: a friend of mine wants the same thing. It's funny...:D



Thanks for all guys and stay tuned. ;) Maybe a new release tonight...

[Kurtnoise]

0.17 (http://atlas2.tgv.net/~media-video/forum2/download.php?id=1549) is available...;-)



Changelog :

1. Fixed some errors for the bitrate of Lame Alt-Preset commands.
2. Much more Lame Settings for Advanced Users (ATH, PSY tunings, Error Protection, Sampling Frequency for the output file).
3. Added 5.1 Dolby-Digital Wave support.
4. Added German Language (viele danke Brother John ;-)).
5. Fixed some internal errors.
6. Clean code to prepare Job List Management.


@WinSomePix : I tried something for you in this last release...please tell me if all it's ok. ;)

@Jorel : your mailbox is full...I can't send you PM. So, I'll send you the pdf file and this last version tomorrow by mail. bye.

[jorel]

thanks for the new version Kurtnoise13
:)
mirror updated and free space in mailbox(sorry about that)!

[WinsomePix]

Hi Kurtnoise:

I checked ver 0.17 on our various machines and it opens properly in the center of the screen on all of them. Nice job. Also, it is no longer too big for 1024x768.

The change did introduce a small problem with the font layout in the interface, probably caused by the fact that we use the "Large Size (120 DPI)" font size setting on all our XP machines.

The resizing you did of your program's window makes several instances of text lines get cut off at the end of the line. For instance, in the WAV/PCM tab, each instance of the word "wave" next to the output channel radio buttons is missing one or more letters.

I can e-mail you a couple of screen shots if that would help.

Making the whole BeLight window a little wider might solve the problem, or using a slightly smaller typefont.

Best regards.

[Kurtnoise]

Hey,

Originally posted by WinsomePix The change did introduce a small problem with the font layout in the interface, probably caused by the fact that we use the "Large Size (120 DPI)" font size setting on all our XP machines.
weird...ok. I know why. I'll fix it. ;)

[Gabriel_Bouvigne]

May I suggest something similar to this for the mp3 options:
http://lame.sourceforge.net/lame_ui_example.html

[Kurtnoise]

Hi Gabriel,

Yes...this sounds good. I can try to make similar something.

[daphy]

Hi Krutnoise,

is it possible to make a nice GUI menue for MUX/LST file list where it´s possible simply to mark the files (or selecting the path to the single file - like your input/output option) in order FL,FR,C,LFE,SL,SR to create an automatic MUX list or file1,file2... for LST?

I guess this would be a very confortable addon for all users!

THX

[Kurtnoise]

Originally posted by daphy is it possible to make a nice GUI menue for MUX/LST file list where it´s possible simply to mark the files (or selecting the path to the single file - like your input/output option) in order FL,FR,C,LFE,SL,SR to create an automatic MUX list or file1,file2... for LST?
Sorry...I don't really understand what you want. :o Could you be more precise ??

[Pacemaker]

He meant, that he want...
A function that create´s automatically the mux list from six mono files.
He want a place in the gui who he can choose/search the mono waves.
LeftFront-->c:\the\place\where\the\LeftFront-File is
RightFront-->c:\the\place\where\the\RightFront-File is
and so on...
LF
RF
C
BR
BL
LFE

Do you understand ?