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daphy
23rd November 2004, 14:01
exact, thanks for clearing this :p

the same for merging file1, file2 ... -> LST

MacAddict
23rd November 2004, 14:35
Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
It's fixed now...thanks for the bug report.


sure... :)



Yes...I can do it.


@WinSomePix : ok...I see. I'll try to modify that.

@Daphy : about your request :: a friend of mine wants the same thing. It's funny...:D



Thanks for all guys and stay tuned. ;) Maybe a new release tonight...

Thank you for the fixes and the feature!

One last request and I wont bother you anymore:) Is it possible to add the 'priority' CPU feature? I typically set BeSweet to run in 'Idle' mode so I can do other tasks while BeSweet encodes.

EDIT- Oooops, the LAME '--resample 44.1' command does not seem to function. Bug?

Kurtnoise
23rd November 2004, 14:42
You want to kill me guys ??? :D :scared:


Ok I understand but it seems complicated for mux files because the different output formats don't have the same channels order. :rolleyes: But who knows...

Kurtnoise
23rd November 2004, 14:43
Originally posted by MacAddict
Oooops, the LAME '--resample 44.1' command does not seem to function. Bug?
Sure ?? Could you post your log file please ?...thanks.

daphy
23rd November 2004, 14:56
Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
Ok I understand but it seems complicated for mux files because the different output formats don't have the same channels order. :rolleyes: But who knows... [/B]
diffrent order? I always thought the muxing command goes like this:
FL,FR,C,LFE,SL,SR :confused:

MacAddict
23rd November 2004, 14:57
Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
Sure ?? Could you post your log file please ?...thanks.

No problem, it seems the command doesnt get passed to BeSweet for some reason.

BeSweet v1.5b29 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using azid.dll v1.9 (b922) by Midas (midas@egon.gyaloglo.hu).
Using lame_enc.dll v1.32 (4/11/2004), Engine 3.97 <http://www.mp3dev.org/>.

Logging start : 11/23/04 , 08:51:44.

BeSweet.exe -core( -input D:\pb64 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3 -output Z:\pb64 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3 -logfile D:\pb64 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.log ) -azid( -s stereo -c normal -L -3db ) -ota( -hybridgain ) -lame( --alt-preset 80 )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : D:\pb64 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
[00:00:00:000] | Output: Z:\pb64 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | PostGain normalize to : 0.97
[00:00:00:000] +-------- AZID -------
[00:00:00:000] | Input Channels Mode: 3/2, Bitrate: 448kbps
[00:00:00:000] | Output Stereo mode: Stereo
[00:00:00:000] | Total Gain: 10.000dB, Compression: Normal
[00:00:00:000] | LFE levels: To LR -3.0dB, To LFE 0.0dB
[00:00:00:000] | Center mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Surround mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Dialog normalization: -4dB
[00:00:00:000] | Rear channels filtering: No
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] +-------- LAME -------
[00:00:00:000] | 'abr 80' preset is used
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------
[00:27:04:416] Gain of 4.5dB had been asserted to file.
[00:27:04:416] Conversion Completed !
[00:27:04:416] Actual Avg. Bitrate : 80kbps
[00:02:14:000] <-- Transcoding Duration

Logging ends : 11/23/04 , 08:53:58.

Kurtnoise
23rd November 2004, 15:04
ok...I'll correct this bug.


@Daphy : look at the BeSweet FAQ.(n°31 & 31b) ;) And for aac is also different...:rolleyes:

Pacemaker
23rd November 2004, 15:27
Hi.

Thanks for this very good gui. :)

In the german forum a user asked a question...
"Is it possible to save my own settings in the gui"

Could you integrate a function that saves the settings, in a .ini file perhaps ??

It could be very useful...

Kurtnoise
23rd November 2004, 15:38
Originally posted by Pacemaker

In the german forum a user asked a question...
"Is it possible to save my own settings in the gui"

Could you integrate a function that saves the settings, in a .ini file perhaps ??

It could be very useful...
Yes...it's planned. ;)


@MacAddict: I'm checking the trick. Use SSRC instead of --resample Lame function. I think it's more accurate and it works fine. ;)

Brother John
23rd November 2004, 15:44
Cosmetic suggestions (meaning: to consider if todo list is about to get empty ;)):
- Don’t use underlined text (e.g. on the Vorbis tab). Non-underlined is much better to read.
- For translations labels/checkboxes/etc. adjusting to the text length would be nice (within limits that don’t mess up the GUI of course).

P.S.: Wow, already the third version in three days. Pretty impressing. About as fast as Gabest in his best days. And that’s saying something!

daphy
23rd November 2004, 15:59
@Daphy : look at the BeSweet FAQ.(n°31 & 31b) And for aac is also different...

yep, my fault :eek:
-> I also should :readfaq: before I post :D :D ;)

absinthe
23rd November 2004, 19:31
Terrific! I always thought the BeSweet GUI was a mess, anyway.

Would it be possible to to show the command line, ala the original GUI? It would be nice to be able to copy and the command line ... to show people "hey, here's how I did so and so ..."

I also always wanted to be able to put my cursor in the command line box and make manual changes. Would that be possible?

Of course, maybe that wouldn't so much "BeLight" as it would "BeComplicated." :D

Nice work!

-abs

MacAddict
23rd November 2004, 19:45
Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
@MacAddict: I'm checking the trick. Use SSRC instead of --resample Lame function. I think it's more accurate and it works fine. ;) Did this work for you? I would prefer using SSRC to keep 44Khz but it doesnt have any affect. I guess thats why I've always resorted to the LAME --resample command, it keeps 44Khz even with low bitrates.

Kurtnoise
23rd November 2004, 20:46
Originally posted by MacAddict
Did this work for you? I would prefer using SSRC to keep 44Khz but it doesnt have any affect. I guess thats why I've always resorted to the LAME --resample command, it keeps 44Khz even with low bitrates.
Yes it works for me. I tested with different samples (48 kHz to 44,1 KHz). But I can active --resample command as you want.


@absinthe :: about your suggestion, yes as I already said before, it's on my todo list.

MacAddict
23rd November 2004, 21:01
Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
Yes it works for me. I tested with different samples (48 kHz to 44,1 KHz). But I can active --resample command as you want.
I greatly appreciate your effort. If you try a sample with alt-abr 80 using SSRC it stays at 44khz? I think LAME overrides SSRC and uses 32khz, unless you use --resample. 32khz audio causes sync issues with some standalone players unfortunately.

therealjoeblow
24th November 2004, 00:07
Can BeSweet downmix '2 channel mono ac3' and output mono Vorbis (and maybe HE-AAC too)? I've never been able to get this to work with existing GUI's (either the standard BeSweet GUI or Oagmachine).

The only way I've been able to get true Mono Vorbis is to demux the AC3 to WAV from the vobs with DGindex, and then use OggDropXPD, which has a setting to downmix and does produce true 1 channel output, so you really do only need 1/2 the bitrate. Every other tool I've used that can either work with demuxed AC3 or directly with VOBS can only produce Stereo, even if the source is mono but stored in 2 channel (ie the way most oldies from the 50's and 60's are).

Obviously you can't implement the feature if BeSweet itself doesn't support it, but here's hoping it does and none of the GUI's before ever picked it up. Same would go for HE-AAC, although I've not investigated BeSweet's capability so far as Vorbis on that yet.

ghobbsus
24th November 2004, 06:40
Is this application capable of encoding Dolby Digital?

daphy
24th November 2004, 07:06
Is this application capable of encoding Dolby Digital?
IT´s a GUI for besweet (not more or less) so if besweet supports AC3 BeLight does it also :confused:

Kurtnoise
24th November 2004, 08:00
Hi,

Originally posted by therealjoeblow
Can BeSweet downmix '2 channel mono ac3' and output mono Vorbis (and maybe HE-AAC too)? I've never been able to get this to work with existing GUI's (either the standard BeSweet GUI or Oagmachine).
For AAC output, there is an option "Downmix to mono".
For Vorbis output, we can't produce mono files with BeSweet. Maybe with the help of Azid options. I'll check it.


Originally posted by ghobbsus
Is this application capable of encoding Dolby Digital?
Yes we can but ac3enc isn't very good.

Gabriel_Bouvigne
24th November 2004, 09:50
If you try a sample with alt-abr 80 using SSRC it stays at 44khz? I think LAME overrides SSRC and uses 32khz, unless you use --resample.
I can confirm that this is the normal behaviour of Lame.
If you do not want it to resample, you have to use --resample xxx with xxx beeing your sampling freq.

Gannjunior
25th November 2004, 13:37
Nice and very complete work Kurt!!
Bravo!!:)
I've done some compressions and the gui seems to work correctly. Only a problem during AAC conversion: i obtain the same error I had in Danni gui: 'error configuration bsn'...so I'm not able to convert in AAC trought your gui.
I'm using last besweet beta 1.5b29... any suggestion?

ciao!!

Kurtnoise
25th November 2004, 13:49
:logfile:

Gannjunior
25th November 2004, 17:48
BeSweet v1.5b29 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using Shibatch.dll v0.24 by Naoki Shibata & DSPguru (shibatch.sourceforge.net).
Using bsn.dll v0.24 by DPeshev,Richard,E-Male,DSPguru (DSPguru.Doom9.org).

Logging start : 11/25/04 , 17:47:48.

BeSweet.exe -core( -input F:\Burner_Temp\w6.wav -output F:\Burner_Temp\w6.mp4 -logfile F:\Burner_Temp\w6.log ) -azid( ) -bsn( -2ch -vbr_streaming -aacprofile_lc ) -ota( -G 1 )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : F:\Burner_Temp\w6.wav
[00:00:00:000] | Output: F:\Burner_Temp\w6.mp4
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: No
[00:00:00:000] | PostGain normalize to : 1.00
Error 84: error configuring bsn!
Quiting...
[00:00:00:000] Conversion Completed !

Logging ends : 11/25/04 , 17:47:48.

Kurtnoise
25th November 2004, 18:31
You must have installed Nero to use AAC Encoder...Just put aacenc32.dll and aac.dll in BeSweet folder. Then everything will be ok. ;)

Gannjunior
25th November 2004, 21:25
Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
You must have installed Nero to use AAC Encoder...Just put aacenc32.dll and aac.dll in BeSweet folder. Then everything will be ok. ;)

Nero is obviuously installed, but i haven't brought its dll in besweet folder...ehehe :D
now it works perfectly ;)

nice work and many thanks!:)

Seimour
26th November 2004, 13:47
Originally posted by filewalker
I like your GUI style.Cool :)

But I'M waiting hard till VOB support for input is ready. I just use it for my backups.

Cu filewalker

U can use DVD Decrypter Steam Processing and demux *.ac3 track(s) out of the *.vob file(s) or.. use dvd2avi (i can't remember name of the new one).

jorel
26th November 2004, 13:59
.. use dvd2avi (i can't remember name of the new one)...DVD2AVI 1.76 Command-Line 1.05 modified by dvd2svcd is cool!

http://www.dvd2dvd.org/

or all versions and how to extract the audio( Part 4: Audio menu)here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59272

!

Kurtnoise
27th November 2004, 00:14
0.18 is out (http://atlas2.tgv.net/~media-video/forum2/download.php?id=1551)...

Changelog

Added: Loading & Saving your own Settings.
Added : detection of the Nero dll in BeLight folder.
Fixed : --resample Lame function.


Note:
1°) There is a Settings folder now...So, the right thing can be to copy all the BeSweet folder (exe + dll) into BeLight directory. :)
2°) I included also the file to make the translation.


Feel free to test it..:p

WinsomePix
28th November 2004, 02:25
Hi --

Some nice improvements in .18.

Text fixed in main window, but the end of several lines of text are still missing in the advanced settings window.

Main window size better now, although it's still a bit too tall for 1024x768 screens -- everything below the bottom edge of the word "Start" on the start button is cut off.

You may also consider adding a "Save As" option for settings, in order to create multiple ini files containing configurations for various purposes.

Best regards.

Alxemi
28th November 2004, 03:10
nice GUI, good work :)
spanish translation sent.

Kurtnoise
28th November 2004, 09:24
Originally posted by WinsomePix
Text fixed in main window, but the end of several lines of text are still missing in the advanced settings window.
Could you tell me wich ones please ?? Thanks.

Originally posted by WinsomePix
Main window size better now, although it's still a bit too tall for 1024x768 screens -- everything below the bottom edge of the word "Start" on the start button is cut off.
Ok...I'll try to fix it.

Originally posted by WinsomePix
You may also consider adding a "Save As" option for settings, in order to create multiple ini files containing configurations for various purposes.
I can do that of course but I'm lazy...:D That's why I created only one ini file for saving settings.


Originally posted by Alxemi
nice GUI, good work
spanish translation sent.
Thank you very much. ;) I'll add it in the next release.

Alxemi
28th November 2004, 13:55
I first encoded an MP3 from vorbis with VBR 32-320.
log file:

BeSweet v1.5b29 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using libVorbis.dll v1.0 ( Sep 24 2004 ) by John33 (www.inf.ufpr.br/~rja00).
Using lame_enc.dll v1.32 (8/8/2003), Engine 3.90 <http://www.mp3dev.org/>.

Logging start : 11/28/04 , 13:32:07.

BeSweet.exe -core( -input E:\DVD1\ogms\cd1º\cast.ogg -output E:\DVD1\ogms\cd1º\cast.mp3 -logfile E:\DVD1\ogms\cd1º\cast.log ) -ota( -hybridgain ) -lame( -m j -v --vbr-mtrh -V 4 -b 64 -B 320 -p )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : E:\DVD1\ogms\cd1º\cast.ogg
[00:00:00:000] | Output: E:\DVD1\ogms\cd1º\cast.mp3
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | PostGain normalize to : 0.97
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] +-------- LAME -------
[00:00:00:000] | Bitrate method : VBR (Merged)
[00:00:00:000] | VBR Quality : 4
[00:00:00:000] | MP3 Min bitrate : 64
[00:00:00:000] | MP3 Max bitrate : 320
[00:00:00:000] | Channels Mode : Joint Stereo
[00:00:00:000] | Error Protection: Yes
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------
[01:06:17:775] Gain of 1.5dB had been asserted to file.
[01:06:17:775] Conversion Completed !
[01:06:17:775] Actual Avg. Bitrate : 137kbps
[00:05:23:000] <-- Transcoding Duration

Logging ends : 11/28/04 , 13:37:30.







Then. I changed the max bitrate alowed to 192, but take a look:


eSweet v1.5b29 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using libVorbis.dll v1.0 ( Sep 24 2004 ) by John33 (www.inf.ufpr.br/~rja00).
Using lame_enc.dll v1.32 (8/8/2003), Engine 3.90 <http://www.mp3dev.org/>.

Logging start : 11/28/04 , 13:39:54.

BeSweet.exe -core( -input E:\DVD1\ogms\cd1º\engl.ogg -output E:\DVD1\ogms\cd1º\engl.mp3 -logfile E:\DVD1\ogms\cd1º\engl.log ) -ota( -hybridgain ) -lame( -m j -v --vbr-mtrh -V 4 -b 64 -B 320 -p )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : E:\DVD1\ogms\cd1º\engl.ogg
[00:00:00:000] | Output: E:\DVD1\ogms\cd1º\engl.mp3
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | PostGain normalize to : 0.97
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] +-------- LAME -------
[00:00:00:000] | Bitrate method : VBR (Merged)
[00:00:00:000] | VBR Quality : 4
[00:00:00:000] | MP3 Min bitrate : 64
[00:00:00:000] | MP3 Max bitrate : 320
[00:00:00:000] | Channels Mode : Joint Stereo
[00:00:00:000] | Error Protection: Yes
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------
[01:06:16:597] Gain of 1.5dB had been asserted to file.
[01:06:16:597] Conversion Completed !
[01:06:16:597] Actual Avg. Bitrate : 128kbps
[00:05:24:000] <-- Transcoding Duration

Logging ends : 11/28/04 , 13:45:18.


max bitrate was still 320!!! If i repeat the encode without changing anything (still 192) It uses always 320, even if i cloose belight and open it again and choose 192, 320 is used.

BTW, maybe a choose list for the bitrate could be useful because in manu encoders you cannot choose any value.

thanks for your tool!!!

MacAddict
28th November 2004, 16:32
Looks like the LAME bitrate requests are being ignored. I have the same problem using the --alt abr preset here.

Alxemi
28th November 2004, 17:22
encoding from vorbis to mp3, I add the work to the job list, then i press start and a weird message appears:

http://img98.exs.cx/img98/171/1305.gif

weird because i´m not using aac :?

afterwards the encode its done properly

Kurtnoise
28th November 2004, 17:33
Don't use the job list now please...It's not finished. :o

For your bug, it's fixed now.

WinsomePix
28th November 2004, 20:28
Re truncated lines of text in advanced settings window, please give me an email address so I can send you a screen capture. To be honest, I tried to attach it to this message but it didn't work. Same with insterting image... it asks for a web address and I have the image locally.

Kurtnoise
29th November 2004, 08:37
kurtnoise at free dot fr ;)


But you could simply list here which options have this problem.

dOpiate
30th November 2004, 13:02
BeSweet has that DVD2AVI check box that automatically detects the ms delay in a DVD2AVI audio extracted files. It's a minor thing but would be really nice if you also had it.

example original file name:

1992_Dep AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY -32ms.ac3

besweet automatically adds to the command line: -ota( -d -32 )

it would be nice to have in BeLight

-dOpiate

Kurtnoise
30th November 2004, 13:51
Originally posted by dOpiate
BeSweet has that DVD2AVI check box that automatically detects the ms delay in a DVD2AVI audio extracted files. It's a minor thing but would be really nice if you also had it.

example original file name:

1992_Dep AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY -32ms.ac3

besweet automatically adds to the command line: -ota( -d -32 )

it would be nice to have in BeLight

-dOpiate
It's already done...;)



@Brother John & Manper :: thanks for the update.

sjursen
2nd December 2004, 18:09
Seems like a nice gui :)

can I use this tool to convert vbr too cbr mp3? I have a lot of videoclips I like too convert too other formats but I sometimes get sync problems if I dount save the audio in uncompressed pcm before converting. I also like to convert video with ac3 tracks to stereo mp3 and boost the volume upp a bit

Kurtnoise
2nd December 2004, 19:09
Originally posted by sjursen
can I use this tool to convert vbr too cbr mp3?
of course you can...but you loose in quality by doing that.

Tuning
2nd December 2004, 19:12
Greeatings Kurtnoise13!! :)
Nice work on new besweet GUI! ;)

Pennywize
3rd December 2004, 09:36
Hi,

very nice work.

I have a problem getting mp2 on 192. Every Time i want to create a mp2 File on 192 (for DVD) an 48 khz i get files with vbr 300 and up (like vbr extreme). MP3 works fine.

This happens with toolame and mp2enc and i have no ideo why ?

Did anyone knows why this happens??

Thx for help

Penny

Kurtnoise
3rd December 2004, 11:19
Originally posted by Pennywize
Hi,

very nice work.

I have a problem getting mp2 on 192. Every Time i want to create a mp2 File on 192 (for DVD) an 48 khz i get files with vbr 300 and up (like vbr extreme). MP3 works fine.

This happens with toolame and mp2enc and i have no ideo why ?

Did anyone knows why this happens??

Thx for help

Penny
Yeah, I noticed this too. You must know that VBR mode is only useful on files with 44,1 KHz Sampling Rate. Use CBR Mode. It's more safer.


@All :: I'll try to post a new release tonight but I've a lake of free time.:( Stay tuned.

Kurtnoise
4th December 2004, 00:06
Here is the last BeLight (http://atlas2.tgv.net/~media-video/forum2/download.php?id=1559) release...Enjoy.:)

Changelog:

Added : View & Edit BeSweet Command Line.*
Added : Soundtouch Commands.
Added : Spanish language.
Fixed : bitrate choices for some Lame commands.





* In fact, you can write everything you want in this space...BeLight enables to launch the commands. ;)

jorel
4th December 2004, 05:05
thank you for the new version Kurtnoise13 .
:)


BeLight (BR mirror) (http://www.jltoca.uaivip.com.br/BeLight-0.19.zip) updated too!

WinsomePix
4th December 2004, 08:56
Hi --

Looks like you're making good progress on the interface. Lots of improvements. I notice the text on the advanced options box is all readable now

On main screen, however, it's gotten even more truncated at the bottom when viewing at 1024x768 resolution -- the entire start button and everything below is now cut off.

Regards,

Winsome Pix

absinthe
4th December 2004, 15:45
Found the new version this a.m. Nice work!

Sort of a funny thing, though. I would think the whole point of calling it "BeLight" is that it is somewhat simplified. You starting adding in everyone's requests and it becomes more and more complex ... pretty soon it looks just like other, less streamlined GUIs ;).

But seriously, it looks a lot nicer than BeSweet GUI. And the ability to edit, copy, and paste the command line alone makes it superior to the aforementioned GUI.

Thanks,

-abs

nexus
4th December 2004, 18:15
I think so too. You should first fix the bugs before implementing new functions.
I dont't know if these bugs are known:
-Settings arent't saved correctly (I don't know if this is true, but if I check Delay and save the settings, next time I load the settings and "Delay" isn't checked. Same for "normalize" e.g.). It isn't stored in the settings.ini, but I can edit it maually.
-Language isn't saved
-Command line only shows chosen parameters if I choose them _after_ clicking "View & edit command line", however parameters will be correctly delivered to besweet.exe.
-German language issues:
.Settings->Load: Laden
.Settings->Save: Speichern
.Advanced Settings: Log file: Box too small for the words "Logdatei erstellen"

Pacemaker
5th December 2004, 12:17
@kurtnoise

I have a suggestion for you.

It would be better to split the "advanced settings" section.
The lame section should be placed in the "MP3" tab as an advanced section --->button
The azid section should be placed in the "AC3" tab as an advanced section --->button

The other sections "Soundtouch, Partial Encodings, External Plugins and others" should remain where they are.

Is this a good idea ?