tsMuxeR update for 3D blu-ray

[physic]

HWK
No, I am going to add separate mux options: "blu-ray iso" and "avchd iso".

[HWK]

I am assuming if iso is chosen for output and input has mvc stream. In that case it will create ssif folder and file inside iso as well at least for blu-ray iso option.

[frencher]

Good works physic ;)

Just one bug found for me.

Step 1: I have muxed one 3DBD sample to "test1.m2ts" file from mpls OK no problem
Step 2: I have remuxed my "test1.m2ts" to "test2.m2ts" and i have this problem

MVC Player Free in my signature for speed tests ;)

http://i39.tinypic.com/2qwpyyx.png

[HWK]

Good works physic ;)

Just one bug found for me.

Step 1: I have muxed one 3DBD sample to "test1.m2ts" file from mpls OK no problem
Step 2: I have remuxed my "test1.m2ts" to "test2.m2ts" and i have this problem

MVC Player Free in my signature for speed tests ;)

http://i39.tinypic.com/2qwpyyx.png

Did you choose m2ts muxing for output?

[physic]

frencher
Is this bug present in the latest version only or not? Could you provide me this test file? I just repeat this 2 step scenario and haven't got a problem for some short 3dbd on a input.

P.S. Looks like frencher you muxed 2 video streams (AVC and MVC) to a single m2ts file and player can't play it correctly.

[HWK]

frencher
Is this bug present in the latest version only or not? Could you provide me this test file?

Physic, Please read this may answer your question
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1646340#post1646340

Also looking at screenshot shown at, it seems 1.12.3a
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=155246&page=76

never mind about version, frencher answer that question in post below mine.

[frencher]

Did you choose m2ts muxing for output?

Yes i have 1.12.14b :rolleyes:

upload in progress

[HWK]

Yes i have 1.12.14b :rolleyes:

upload in progress

You mention in http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=155246&page=77 could it be player which cause problem when played on pc. I use m2ts as well and tmt 5 can playback without hiccup.

[frencher]

You mention in http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=155246&page=77 could it be player which cause problem. I use m2ts as well and tmt 5 can playback without hiccup.

The first m2ts have no problem, if simply remuxed to new name.m2ts the problem is present

[HWK]

The first m2ts have no problem, if simply remuxed to new name.m2ts the problem is present

Can you upload sample file for review.

[physic]

HWK
I don't understand a little bit. Is ssifSource combines both tracks to a single avc/mvc track?

frencher
Is you player can play ssif files? tsMuxeR can produce correct ssif if you change file extension to a ssif in a file name edit. Can you check it?

[frencher]

OK in progress.
Other bug found with split and cut at end (tested 10 sec) to "out.m2ts" from mpls, re-open "out.m2ts" and this message error appear (MVC Player Free works without problem with "out.m2ts" in 3D)

Unsupported format
Some tracks not recognized. This track was ingnored.

meta file (MVC not found :confused:)
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "G:\Test.m2ts", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4114
A_DTS, "G:\Test.m2ts", track=4352, lang=fra
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\Test.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4608, lang=fra
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\Test.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4609, lang=fra
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\Test.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4610, lang=fra
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\Test.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4611, lang=fra

[HWK]

HWK
I don't understand a little bit. Is ssifSource combines both tracks to a single avc/mvc track?


No, that is totally different. What it does is also user to decode ssif file so it is possible to get two view from ssif file one for each. What make it different is once done both files can be decoded without each other and thus can be used in encoder or for any other purpose where you need base and dependent view and ability to view on their own.

It has nothing to do with tsmuxer. Only reason I mention was because frencher may have thought that it can decode both files data so it can be viewed separately.

[HWK]

OK in progress.
Other bug found with split and cut at end (tested 10 sec) to "out.m2ts" from mpls, re-open "out.m2ts" and this message error appear (MVC Player Free works without problem with "out.m2ts" in 3D)
meta file (MVC not found :confused:)

You are importing m2ts files and tsmuxer can't read info about stereo file from m2ts as a result that is why you are getting this message.

I did as well and same thing happened to me as well. I also tried other types and no success either, some time it reads mvc stream and sometimes it reads avc stream not both and it depends on file extension.

[frencher]

A track identification problem can be

[HWK]

A track identification problem can be

Most likely it could be the issue. I was thinking of uploading all the samples where there are two files in container and tsmuxer can't read them correctly to help author add support for them.

[frencher]

Can you make a sample ?

[HWK]

I can but it will take some time to complete. I also have access to encoder so I can create more type of samples as well.

However before I do, if I remember correctly physic mention that one of his priority is to have ability to open and examine container and add all stream it can understand.

Only thing this will do is give baseline where to start.

[frencher]

Upload done: Test.m2ts (http://ul.to/415r0rj0)


frencher
Is you player can play ssif files? tsMuxeR can produce correct ssif if you change file extension to a ssif in a file name edit. Can you check it?

Sorry i don't see your post :(
Yes MVC Player Free play directly ssif file from BD folder "BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\xxxxx.ssif" :)

I'll see next week it's late and tomorrow job.
But I will follow your work without problem.

[HWK]

Upload done: Test.m2ts (http://ul.to/415r0rj0)

Sorry i don't see your post :(
Yes MVC Player Free play directly ssif file from BD folder "BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\xxxxx.ssif" :)

I'll see next week it's late and tomorrow job.
But I will follow your work without problem.

I played from ssif file as well and it worked for me too, however I use different player and did little hack to get it to play. In my case what I did is to open mpls file which is main movie from blu-ray disk and choose m2ts muxing in tsmuxer first and in dialog box asking where to save file I save as 00000.ssif file. Creating one ssif file which is 36.4 gb in ssif folder.

Second time I create blu-ray disk and movie ssif folder inside stream folder of blu-ray disk folder. I also renamed m2ts files in stream folder so they are not accessed by player anymore and for me it worked.

[HWK]

OK in progress.
Other bug found with split and cut at end (tested 10 sec) to "out.m2ts" from mpls, re-open "out.m2ts" and this message error appear (MVC Player Free works without problem with "out.m2ts" in 3D)
meta file (MVC not found :confused:)

It works for me, which version you are using. In addition tsMuxeR see all the assets which are present in file, I double check with MediaInfo program.

http://s7.postimg.org/bhh8p49h7/Tsmuxer.png

I decided to encode sample uploaded by frencher, however after encoding if you import mvc elementary stream then it only recognize MVC codec file not H264 file. Where mediainfo show info about both stream. Also tsmuxer 1.10.6 recognize H264 stream but under file type choose all files to make it visible.

Should file be split in to two and import them, then it recognize H64 and MVC codec stream even though extension is still mvc for both. (Screenshot not shown)

http://s23.postimg.org/ntpgqi297/Tsmuxer_2.png

[physic]

May be problem with track recognition because of frencher used very short input file, only several seconds long. tMuxeR recognize tracks by content. So some amount of input data must be present.

[Goodfellow]

@ Physic
I would like to eliminate seamless branching from a 3d Bluray iso file (I kept only the movie & 3D format using DVDFAb) :
Is TSMuxer the right tool to do so ? Should I demux then remux to eliminate the branching ?

[frencher]

http://s7.postimg.org/bhh8p49h7/Tsmuxer.png


Only press button "start muxing" and reopen "Test AVC-MVC.ts" with MVC Player Free
Have you this bug ?

http://i39.tinypic.com/2qwpyyx.png

From mpls remuxed with tsMuxer 1.12.14(b) to "Test AVC-MVC.m2ts" and demuxed with eac3to v3.27
command line:
"F:\eac3to.exe" "G:\Test AVC-MVC.m2ts" 01: "G:\01 - vid, h264/AVC (left eye), 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9).h264" 02: "G:\02 - vid, h264/AVC (right eye), 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)" -log="G:\Test AVC-MVC.m2ts - log.txt"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
M2TS, 2 video tracks, 1 audio track, 4 subtitle tracks, 0:01:02, 24p /1.001
1: h264/AVC (left eye), 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) AVC View
2: h264/AVC (right eye), 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9), -1000ms MVC View
3: DTS Master Audio, French, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 48kHz, -1000ms
(core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 1509kbps, 48kHz)
4: Subtitle (PGS), French
5: Subtitle (PGS), French
6: Subtitle (PGS), French
7: Subtitle (PGS), French
[v02] Extracting video track number 2...
[v01] Extracting video track number 1...
[v01] Creating file "G:\01 - vid, h264AVC (left eye), 1080p24 1.001 (169).h264"...
[v02] Creating file "G:\02 - vid, h264AVC (right eye), 1080p24 1.001 (169).h264"...
Video track 1 contains 1456 frames.
Video track 2 contains 1480 frames.
eac3to processing took 1 second.
Done.

[HWK]

May be problem with track recognition because of frencher used very short input file, only several seconds long. tMuxeR recognize tracks by content. So some amount of input data must be present.

The sample content is at least 1 min long and from my point of view sample file is fine, since I downloaded sample by frencher and open tsmuxer and it worked.

Only time this problem come is when encoded with mvc encoder and both stream are mux into one file. In this case newer version (1.10.6 or higher) doesn't recognize H264 codec stream. On flip side of coin tsmuxer 1.10.6 recognize H264 stream.

On a final note if I split file in to two and import them in tsmuxer then it recognize though file extension is same.

[HWK]

Only press button "start muxing" and reopen "Test AVC-MVC.ts" with MVC Player Free
Have you this bug ?

http://i39.tinypic.com/2qwpyyx.png

From mpls remuxed with tsMuxer 1.12.14(b) to "Test AVC-MVC.m2ts" and demuxed with eac3to v3.27

I tried with m2ts and ts and it simply doesn't play. Player only reach up to creating script. I will say player is buggy, if I feed through stereoscopic player or one of commercial player then playback is no problem.

[HWK]

@ Physic
I would like to eliminate seamless branching from a 3d Bluray iso file (I kept only the movie & 3D format using DVDFAb) :
Is TSMuxer the right tool to do so ? Should I demux then remux to eliminate the branching ?

tsmuxer does eliminate seamless branching from disc. However program is not ready for this process. Simply because disc is 3d format and tsmuxer can't write ISO file with ssif file inside ssif folder. According to author tsmuxer will soon support creation of iso file then you will be able to accomplish what you want.

[frencher]

I tried with m2ts and ts and it simply doesn't play. Player only reach up to creating script. I will say player is buggy, if I feed through stereoscopic player or one of commercial player then playback is no problem.

Install Avisynth and latest Directshow for works
MVC Player Free Tutorial (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1602605#post1602605)

[HWK]

Install Avisynth and latest Directshow for works
MVC Player Free Tutorial (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1602605#post1602605)

Avisynth and directshow were already installed even before downloading player. I knew it was a requirement for MVC player, even then no go on my machine.

[Hansdampf12345]

I have an .m4v file that I'm constantly having a problem with burning using MultAVChd.

It has a frame-rate of 23.976. I use mkvtoolnix to change it to an mkv file, where the frame-rate remains 23.976.

[...]

I had some similar files. I unchecked the "change fps" box and everything worked fine.

@all: is there a way to do some batch muxing? I have a bunch of MKVs I want to mux to M2TS format and it's a little bit time-consuming to put every single file in tsMuxeR.

[djhulp]

I was just wondering is there any possibility to use this if not then PLEASE MAKE IT:
1. Make a Custom 3D Main Movie Blu-Ray .iso with Scenarist BD.
2. Use the Original 3D .iso for all the Extra's and the Main Menu & Top Menu.
3. A Possiblity to Rename the .mpls & .ssif files.

Example:
1. Import the Original 3D Retail Movie into TSMuxerGui 3D.
2. Remove the Original 3D Main Movie.
3. Import the Custom 3D Main Movie.
4. A Rename the .mpls & .ssif files like the same name as the Original Retail 3D Blu-Ray.
5. Mux as .iso.
6. Play Custom 3D Movie (with all the Extra's & Main Menu & Top Menu included).
Play 3D Movie onto every machine 3D Blu-Ray Players / Burners including Sony PlayStation 3.

[Yordan5]

I was just wondering is there any possibility to use this if not then PLEASE MAKE IT:
1. Make a Custom 3D Main Movie Blu-Ray .iso with Scenarist BD.
2. Use the Original 3D .iso for all the Extra's and the Main Menu & Top Menu.
3. A Possiblity to Rename the .mpls & .ssif files.

Example:
1. Import the Original 3D Retail Movie into TSMuxerGui 3D.
2. Remove the Original 3D Main Movie.
3. Import the Custom 3D Main Movie.
4. A Rename the .mpls & .ssif files like the same name as the Original Retail 3D Blu-Ray.
5. Mux as .iso.
6. Play Custom 3D Movie (with all the Extra's & Main Menu & Top Menu included).
Play 3D Movie onto every machine 3D Blu-Ray Players / Burners including Sony PlayStation 3.

There is no need to bark orders "THEN PLEASE MAKE IT". Be grateful that tsMuxeR exists and is free. All the extra work and features that Roman is now putting into it is pure bonus for everyone.

[Cedvano]

I have created my own software for that. It's remove undesired movies (FIB,...) and can remove undesired languages.
After some manually corrections, all it's ok.

I use tsMuxeR for that.

[rusty666]

can it play the 3d m2ts from usb external on 3d playert yet. cheers

[Cedvano]

What is "3D offset" in subtitles options ? I have often "zerro".

[FilipeAmadeuO]

I have created my own software for that. It's remove undesired movies (FIB,...) and can remove undesired languages.
After some manually corrections, all it's ok.

I use tsMuxeR for that.

You can remove unwanted movies (FIB, trailers,..) on 3D Iso files ? Can you post your software ?
Thanks

[Cedvano]

You can remove unwanted movies (FIB, trailers,..) on 3D Iso files ? Can you post your software ?
Thanks

Yes, I can remove on 2D and 3D, but was my biggest regret, I can't post my software. There are too many manipulations for use.

I search the Blu-ray I/O Specification for finalize my software but it's too expensive (1000$) for a little freeware.

It replace files by MVC (with or without SSIF) and AVC (for 2D).

But you can do it manually.

[FilipeAmadeuO]

Yes, I can remove on 2D and 3D, but was my biggest regret, I can't post my software. There are too many manipulations for use.

I search the Blu-ray I/O Specification for finalize my software but it's too expensive (1000$) for a little freeware.

It replace files by MVC (with or without SSIF) and AVC (for 2D).

But you can do it manually.

Ok. On 2D i used Clown_BD BD Copier and it works ok.
But on 3D ISO i never found a way of doing it.
Can you post manual or information ?

[Sharc]

There is no need to bark orders "THEN PLEASE MAKE IT". Be grateful that tsMuxeR exists and is free. All the extra work and features that Roman is now putting into it is pure bonus for everyone.
+1.
We would not wish to see Roman be scared off....

[rapscallion]

+1.
We would not wish to see Roman be scared off....
Glad to see him back! Great program that I use frequently.

[Guest]

Please stay on topic, which is tsMuxeR. If you want to do detective work please use PM.

[rica]

Thanks @physic for this valuable update.

Not related with 3D side but there seem to be a bug in muxing w64 files with 1.12.14(b)

I have some original BluRay audio discs’ pcm files, 192/24 /5.1.

I extract audio as w64 with eac3to and mux to m2ts with1.10.6 without any issues.

eac3to v3.27
command line: eac3to F: 2) 3: G:\audio\audio_test.w64 -800MB
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
M2TS, 1 video track, 2 audio tracks, 1:08:58, 24p
1: Chapters, 11 chapters
2: MPEG2, 1080p24 (16:9)
3: RAW/PCM, English, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 192kHz
4: RAW/PCM, English, 2.0 channels, 24 bits, 192kHz
[v02] The video framerate is correct, but rather unusual. <WARNING>
[a03] Extracting audio track number 3...
[a03] Reading RAW/PCM...
[a03] Swapping endian...
[a03] Remapping channels...
[a03] Writing W64...
[a03] Creating file "G:\audio\audio_test.w64"...
[a03] The original audio track has a constant bit depth of 24 bits.
Video track 2 contains 3333 frames.
eac3to processing took 21 seconds.
Done.


However, I cannot mux it with new version. (Sorry in advance, if it is a known issue.)

If you are interested, I’m sending a test file for your trials.

Thanks.

http://www.mediafire.com/?y5lml5l1eg34vws


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[americanpie]

can i play 3d movies on my ps3 from external hdd? i've already tried to demux a film but it can't truncate it

[HWK]

can i play 3d movies on my ps3 from external hdd? i've already tried to demux a film but it can't truncate it
No, It is not possible to play from external from hard drive. This problem has to do more with Ps3.

[IceB]

Hi.

Is there a possibility to replace the audio track from the 3D Blu-Ray with different soundrack from the 2D Blu-Ray of the same movie.
The point is that there is a 3D Blu-Ray released with lower bitrate 16-bit audio track, where on the other hand 2D Blu-Ray released with much higher bitrate 24-bit audio track. Both DTS-HD same framerate.
So I would like to demux 2D BR which is not a problem.

But how may I replace the original audio track at 3DBR with the demuxed one ?

[jsmoovey]

IceB, I believe you can "add" both files under import. Then, deselect what streams you'd like to leave. I did this with the 2D movie, Equilibrium. It had TrueHD audio (Something I don't care for) and no English Subs. I was able to remux the movie, ac3 5.1 audio and subs with tsmuxer. I'm sure the same can be done with 3D (Just not sure about bit depth).

One problem I had was that I had to demux the movie with the audio track I wanted to use. tsmuxer had an error at about 20% stating frame-rate changed. After I demuxed the streams and reloaded the ones needed individually (instead of 2 mkv files) the error went away.

[IceB]

jsmoovey, thanks for the reply.

I am familiar with the 2D BD demuxing workaround.

Yet the 3D BD are authorized in much more complexed way.

My goal is to find the easiest way to replace/insert the audio track to the 3D BD.

[HWK]

To switch audio in 3d movie or any other assets.

1. Open mpls for corresponding movie
2. Remove all assets you don't want in you output.
3. Add assets you do want in you output. In your case it is audio track which you want to swap.
4. Choose blu-ray disk for output on bottom of Tsmuxer.
5. Wait for TsMuxer to finish creating new files.

However you won't be able to create iso yet. Unless you use dvdfab virtual drive.

[IceB]

HWK, thanks.

I afraid that this way the SSIF files structure is not maintained.

[HWK]

HWK, thanks.

I afraid that this way the SSIF files structure is not maintained.

Physic gone release new version hopefully on Sunday and from what I understand it will allow you to create iso with ssif file.