tsMuxeR update for 3D blu-ray

[airsoft]

Hi,

Iron Man 3 with 1.12.10 works fine. I test the last version for another videos.

Thanks Physic



No, you must replace the 2 M2TS files, after it's Virtual Drive for the SSIF. The SSIF is a virtal junction with 2 M2TS (1 AVC and 1 MVC).

VARIANT I
------------
STREAM\SSIF\00002.ssif
STREAM\00002.m2ts

VARIANT II
------------
STREAM\SSIF\00002.ssif
STREAM\00002.m2ts - AVC
STREAM\00003.m2ts - MVC

I'm talking about VARIANT I

Regards

[airsoft]

SubJunk
Yes, please provide movie example.

airsoft
Did you open MPLS or SSIF? You should keep start time in such M2TS file, so you should open MPLS (if you open MPLS tsMuxeR detect playlist start time automatically). Also, it is better to setup start numbers for CLPI and MPLS files and repleace their in a BD structure.

I've tested before in both ways.
Now I've started the following procedure


MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:08:52.574;00:14:26.616;00:20:20.928;00:28:48.143;00:36:18.635;00:45:18.549;00:51:53.027;00:56:34.224;01:04:13.308;01:12:56.706;01:19:09.078;01:23:41.391;01:28:44.819;01:35:13.082;01:42:44.158;01:49:12.337;01:56:42.913;02:04:59.117;02:11:29.590;02:19:10.884;02:25:37.520 --vbv-len=500 --start-time=00:10:00.000
V_MPEG4/ISO/MVC, "Y:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00008.ssif", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4114, mplsFile=00003
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "Y:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00008.ssif", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113, mplsFile=00003
A_AC3, "Y:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00008.ssif", track=4352, lang=eng, mplsFile=00003
A_DTS, "Y:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00008.ssif", track=4353, lang=rus, mplsFile=00003
A_AC3, "Y:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00008.ssif", track=4354, lang=rus, mplsFile=00003
A_AC3, "Y:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00008.ssif", track=4355, lang=ukr, mplsFile=00003
S_HDMV/PGS, "Y:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00008.ssif", fps=23.976, track=4608, lang=eng, mplsFile=00003
#S_HDMV/PGS, "Y:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00008.ssif", fps=23.976, track=4609, lang=rus, mplsFile=00003
S_TEXT/UTF8, "H:\!!!_Movies_!!!\Blu-Ray\Transformers_-_Dark_Of_The_Moon_3D.srt",font-name="Arial",font-size=72,font-color=0x00ffffff,bottom-offset=24,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1920,video-height=1080,fps=23.976, lang=rus
S_HDMV/PGS, "Y:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00008.ssif", fps=23.976, track=4610, lang=ukr, mplsFile=00003


for chapters

eac3to y:\ 1) 1: Transformers_-_Dark_Of_The_Moon_3D_chapters.txt

and the file contains

CHAPTER01=00:00:00.000
CHAPTER01NAME=
CHAPTER02=00:08:52.574
CHAPTER02NAME=
CHAPTER03=00:14:26.616
CHAPTER03NAME=
CHAPTER04=00:20:20.928
CHAPTER04NAME=
CHAPTER05=00:28:48.143
CHAPTER05NAME=
CHAPTER06=00:36:18.635
CHAPTER06NAME=
CHAPTER07=00:45:18.549
CHAPTER07NAME=
CHAPTER08=00:51:53.027
CHAPTER08NAME=
CHAPTER09=00:56:34.224
CHAPTER09NAME=
CHAPTER10=01:04:13.308
CHAPTER10NAME=
CHAPTER11=01:12:56.706
CHAPTER11NAME=
CHAPTER12=01:19:09.078
CHAPTER12NAME=
CHAPTER13=01:23:41.391
CHAPTER13NAME=
CHAPTER14=01:28:44.819
CHAPTER14NAME=
CHAPTER15=01:35:13.082
CHAPTER15NAME=
CHAPTER16=01:42:44.158
CHAPTER16NAME=
CHAPTER17=01:49:12.337
CHAPTER17NAME=
CHAPTER18=01:56:42.913
CHAPTER18NAME=
CHAPTER19=02:04:59.117
CHAPTER19NAME=
CHAPTER20=02:11:29.590
CHAPTER20NAME=
CHAPTER21=02:19:10.884
CHAPTER21NAME=
CHAPTER22=02:25:37.520
CHAPTER22NAME=


Used version is 1.12.11(b).
The final idea is that I have a lot of 3D iso titles that do not have an integrated Bulgarian subtitles. In this case with Transformers 3 - a good result is to produce a blu-ray folder with the movie including DTS-HD or TRUE-HD and BG subs ..... only the movie, without menu....

I've tried with Stereoscopic Player on my Intel HD 3000 - it works but only I can start it, not my wife or the children :)

I hope I don't want a lot :)

Regards,
Hristo

[HWK]

for chapters
eac3to y:\ 1) 1: Transformers_Dark_Of_The_Moon_3D_chapters.txt


tsmuxer can read chapter info from mpls, you really don't need eac3to for extracting chapters info.

My work follow when performing procedure similar to the one you were doing is to open up mpls file in tsmuxer and it will read and get all info from mpls about assets and any additional information about particular title. At this stage un-check all assets which you will modify or don't want in ouput. Add new assets to tsmuxer and the you can mux or create blu-ray disk.

As a bonus chapter info already will be added to output. I use BDInfo to find out which mpls refers to movie file.

[airsoft]

tsmuxer can read chapter info from mpls, you really don't need eac3to for extracting chapters info.

My work follow when performing procedure similar to the one you were doing is to open up mpls file in tsmuxer and it will read and get all info from mpls about assets and any additional information about particular title. At this stage un-check all assets which you will modify or don't want in ouput. Add new assets to tsmuxer and the you can mux or create blu-ray disk.

As a bonus chapter info already will be added to output. I use BDInfo to find out which mpls refers to movie file.

Yes, I agree.
But the effect is the same


Total Video
Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track
----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ ---------------------
00000.MPLS AVC 2:34:23 0 45*824*251*788 0,00 0,00 Dolby TrueHD 7.1 (48kHz/24-bit)




DISC INFO:

Disc Title: Transformers_-_Dark_Of_The_Moon_3D
Disc Size: 45*824*251*788 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
BDInfo: 0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00000.MPLS
Length: 2:34:23.587 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 0 bytes
Total Bitrate: 0,00 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 1080p / 23,976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Dolby TrueHD Audio English 0 kbps 7.1 / 48 kHz / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB)
DTS-HD High-Res Audio Russian 2046 kbps 7.1 / 48 kHz / 2046 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio Russian 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Ukrainian 384 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 384 kbps / DN -4dB

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 0,000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Russian 0,000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Ukrainian 0,000 kbps

FILES:

Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate
---- ------- ------ ---- -------------
00000.M2TS 0:00:00.000 2:34:23.587 0 0

CHAPTERS:

Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time
------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- --------------
1 0:00:00.000 0:08:52.573 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
2 0:08:52.573 0:05:34.042 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
3 0:14:26.616 0:05:54.312 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
4 0:20:20.928 0:08:27.214 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
5 0:28:48.143 0:07:30.492 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
6 0:36:18.635 0:08:59.913 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
7 0:45:18.549 0:06:34.478 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
8 0:51:53.027 0:04:41.197 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
9 0:56:34.224 0:07:39.083 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
10 1:04:13.308 0:08:43.398 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
11 1:12:56.706 0:06:12.372 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
12 1:19:09.078 0:04:32.312 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
13 1:23:41.390 0:05:03.428 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
14 1:28:44.819 0:06:28.262 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
15 1:35:13.082 0:07:31.076 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
16 1:42:44.158 0:06:28.179 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
17 1:49:12.337 0:07:30.575 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
18 1:56:42.913 0:08:16.204 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
19 2:04:59.117 0:06:30.472 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
20 2:11:29.590 0:07:41.293 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
21 2:19:10.884 0:06:26.636 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
22 2:25:37.520 0:08:46.067 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets
---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -----
00000.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 0 0 0 0
00000.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x83 TrueHD eng (English) 0 0 0 0
00000.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x85 DTS-HD HR rus (Russian) 0 0 0 0
00000.M2TS 4354 (0x1102) 0x81 AC3 rus (Russian) 0 0 0 0
00000.M2TS 4355 (0x1103) 0x81 AC3 ukr (Ukrainian) 0 0 0 0
00000.M2TS 4608 (0x1200) 0x90 PGS eng (English) 0 0 0 0
00000.M2TS 4609 (0x1201) 0x90 PGS rus (Russian) 0 0 0 0
00000.M2TS 4610 (0x1202) 0x90 PGS ukr (Ukrainian) 0 0 0 0


here is my output result when tsMuxer is used to make a whole Blu-Ray disk

O:\!!!_Movies_!!!\Transformers_-_Dark_Of_The_Moon_3D\BDMV\STREAM>dir /h

Volume in drive O is unlabeled Serial number is 5672:f2ba
Directory of O:\!!!_Movies_!!!\Transformers_-_Dark_Of_The_Moon_3D\BDMV\STREAM\*

25.09.2013 00:32 35 375 812 608 00000.m2ts
25.09.2013 00:32 10 448 136 192 00001.m2ts
45 823 948 800 bytes in 2 files and 2 dirs 45 823 950 848 bytes allocated
27 682 471 936 bytes free

O:\!!!_Movies_!!!\Transformers_-_Dark_Of_The_Moon_3D\BDMV\STREAM>eac3to 00000.m2ts
M2TS, 1 video track, 4 audio tracks, 3 subtitle tracks, 24p /1.001
1: Chapters, 22 chapters
2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: TrueHD/AC3, English, 7.1 channels, 48kHz
(embedded: AC3, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48kHz, dialnorm: -27dB)
4: DTS Hi-Res, Russian, 7.1 channels, 2046kbps, 48kHz
(core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 1509kbps, 48kHz)
5: AC3, Russian, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48kHz, dialnorm: -27dB
6: AC3, Ukrainian, 5.1 channels, 384kbps, 48kHz, dialnorm: -27dB
7: Subtitle (PGS), English
8: Subtitle (PGS), Russian
9: Subtitle (PGS), Ukrainian

O:\!!!_Movies_!!!\Transformers_-_Dark_Of_The_Moon_3D\BDMV\STREAM>eac3to 00001.m2ts
M2TS, 1 video track, 2:34:24, 24p /1.001
1: h264/AVC (right eye), 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)


as result the produced disk has "MPEG TS" file i.e. Blu-Ray TS, but no one points of it. That's why I was trying to replace the SSIF file, which contains both left and right video. Is there a way to tell tsMuxer to create Blu-ray 3D folder?

Could I ask for it or is in the process of development and I hurry too much? :)

btw this is a part of Sysinternals' Process Monitor report

07:14:12,1833500 PowerDVD.exe 8600 CreateFile O:\!!!_Movies_!!!\Transformers_-_Dark_Of_The_Moon_3D\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls SUCCESS Desired Access: Generic Read, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
07:14:12,1845482 PowerDVD.exe 8600 CreateFile O:\!!!_Movies_!!!\Transformers_-_Dark_Of_The_Moon_3D\BDMV\CLIPINF\00000.clpi SUCCESS Desired Access: Generic Read, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
07:14:12,1847136 PowerDVD.exe 8600 CreateFile O:\!!!_Movies_!!!\Transformers_-_Dark_Of_The_Moon_3D\BDMV\CLIPINF\00000.clpi SUCCESS Desired Access: Generic Read, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
07:14:12,3432296 PowerDVD.exe 8600 CreateFile O:\!!!_Movies_!!!\Transformers_-_Dark_Of_The_Moon_3D\BDMV\CLIPINF\00001.clpi SUCCESS Desired Access: Generic Read, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
07:14:12,3434217 PowerDVD.exe 8600 CreateFile O:\!!!_Movies_!!!\Transformers_-_Dark_Of_The_Moon_3D\BDMV\CLIPINF\00001.clpi SUCCESS Desired Access: Generic Read, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
07:14:12,5116864 PowerDVD.exe 8600 CreateFile O:\!!!_Movies_!!!\Transformers_-_Dark_Of_The_Moon_3D\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00000.ssif PATH NOT FOUND Desired Access: Generic Read, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, AllocationSize: n/a
07:14:12,9115305 PowerDVD.exe 8600 CreateFile O:\!!!_Movies_!!!\Transformers_-_Dark_Of_The_Moon_3D\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00000.ssif PATH NOT FOUND Desired Access: Generic Read, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, AllocationSize: n/a
07:14:12,9116391 PowerDVD.exe 8600 CreateFile O:\!!!_Movies_!!!\Transformers_-_Dark_Of_The_Moon_3D\BDMV\STREAM\00000.mts NAME NOT FOUND Desired Access: Generic Read, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, AllocationSize: n/a

PowerDVD is trying to open 00000.ssif, not 00000.m2ts and 00001.m2ts.
I've seen such Bluray 3D iso files, but they contain also and SSIF folder with one BIG file including left+right video + audio + subs

Regards

[HWK]

PowerDVD is trying to open 00000.ssif, not 00000.m2ts and 00001.m2ts.
I've seen such Bluray 3D iso files, but they contain also and SSIF folder with one BIG file including left+right video + audio + subs

Power dvd is doing the right thing by trying to open ssif file, however ssif file point to other m2ts files. In your case 00000.m2ts + 00001.m2ts = 00000.ssif where 00000.m2ts contain audio + subs as well. Put simply ssif file simply concatenate m2ts file something like this 1+2+1+2+1+2 where 1 is 00000.m2ts and 2 is 00001.m2ts so when 3d player reads it know which block to read. 3d Player don't read 00000.m2ts and 00001.m2ts individually.

Also ssif file will only work with files it was created for, it will not work with other file and that is reason ssif file playback doesn't work in powerdvd for your case, because modification by tsmuxer in m2ts file to add srt subtitle in your case change file attribute and ssif longer reference the correct position in files, thus causing unexpected behavior in powerdvd.

While we are at it ssif creation is not supported in tsmuxer at this stage, however it is planned.

[airsoft]

While we are at it ssif creation is not supported in tsmuxer at this stage, however it is planned.
this answer to my question - it is not possible at the moment - Blu-Ray 3D output.

Power dvd is doing the right thing by trying to open ssif file, however ssif file point to other m2ts files. In your case 00000.m2ts + 00001.m2ts = 00000.ssif where 00000.m2ts contain audio + subs as well. Put simply ssif file simply concatenate m2ts file something like this 1+2+1+2+1+2 where 1 is 00000.m2ts and 2 is 00001.m2ts so when 3d player reads it know which block to read. 3d Player don't read 00000.m2ts and 00001.m2ts individually.
As I know m2ts and ssif files are in fact MPEG Transport Stream files and that's why I'm not sure that simple file concat will do the work because TS PID for left eye, audio and subs will be 15-30 GBytes before TS PID for the right eye and probably will not read anything right.

That's why I was wondering what is wrong in produced m2ts file with TSMuxer which contains left and right eye AVC+MVC, audio and subtitles. Of course I've renamed extension to SSIF and moved to folder SSIF.

Regards

[Cedvano]

While we are at it ssif creation is not supported in tsmuxer at this stage, however it is planned.

You mean ISO with SSIF generated file?

[HWK]

You mean ISO with SSIF generated file?

not sure, but from what I understand tsmuxer will create iso file file directly when user import assets which contain 3d. To be honest I still don't know how physic plan implement it.

[physic]

A started with ISO writing. Now I am studying UDF file system.

airsoft
You can type .ssif file extension in UI. At this case tsMuxeR will create correct ssif file. Also you can run tsMuxeR twice: create m2ts files and all other Blu-ray files at first run, then create ssif file. siff will be compatible with other files.
Also, I can add simultaneous writing to m2ts and ssif if it make sense.

[airsoft]

A started with ISO writing. Now I am studying UDF file system.

airsoft
You can type .ssif file extension in UI. At this case tsMuxeR will create correct ssif file. Also you can run tsMuxeR twice: create m2ts files and all other Blu-ray files at first run, then create ssif file. siff will be compatible with other files.
Also, I can add simultaneous writing to m2ts and ssif if it make sense.

just for sport I will try again, but I've tested before such situation. I've opened MPLS and produced m2ts file with MVC, audio and subs and I've replaced in folder that contains original ISO. PowerDVD started playing, counter was increased but no video and no audio.

Regards

[videofan3d]

Hi physic,

what exactly does parameter --start-time=... mean?

I muxed the same BD (loaded with mpls) with different setting --start-time, and output files .clpi. .mpls and .m2ts were different (however of the same size).

What does this parameter impact?
And how it should be set in case of direct muxing of elementary streams?

Thanks

[physic]

videofan3d
This parameter define time for first video frame inside m2ts file (program clock reference, aka PCR). It can be any value, but if you want to replace m2ts file inside existing BD structure, this parameter must be same as in original structure. tsMuxeR detect value for this parameter automatically if you open mpls file. Also, you can see this value in BdEdit in "playlist" section.

[Cedvano]

Hi,

Is possible to create separate M2TS with a single MPLS ?
Like movie with 1 mpls a and multiple M2TS inside. Like Disney's blu-ray (ratatouille, monster Inc., ...)
I don't find this option, if exist.

Thanks

[HWK]

Hi,

Is possible to create separate M2TS with a single MPLS ?
Like movie with 1 mpls a and multiple M2TS inside. Like Disney's blu-ray (ratatouille, monster Inc., ...)
I don't find this option, if exist.

Thanks

From your post it seems you are referring to seamless branching in which title is split into multiple m2ts file and link with one mpls which tell player in which order to play and length of each file along with what additional info player needs.

To answer your question tsmuxer doesn't support creating seamless branching disc. However it can read disk which use seamless branching.

[Cedvano]

To answer your question tsmuxer doesn't support creating seamless branching disc.

I thought so. Thanks for your answer.

[Capsbackup]

Hi,

Is possible to create separate M2TS with a single MPLS ?
Like movie with 1 mpls a and multiple M2TS inside. Like Disney's blu-ray (ratatouille, monster Inc., ...)
I don't find this option, if exist.

Thanks

I thought so. Thanks for your answer.

BD-RB can keep the multi m2ts files, just like the source, if you select full backup.
If you do not want to reencode the video, just set a high (50+GB) output option and it will keep the same structure, but allow you to blank audio and subtitle tracks as well as some unwanted files! :cool:

[HWK]

BD-RB can keep the multi m2ts files, just like the source, if you select full backup.
If you do not want to reencode the video, just set a high (50+GB) output option and it will keep the same structure, but allow you to blank audio and subtitle tracks as well as some unwanted files! :cool:

However it will only work with 2D source and if it is 3D source it will be down converted to 2D after processing.

[Cedvano]

BD-RB can keep the multi m2ts files, just like the source, if you select full backup.
If you do not want to reencode the video, just set a high (50+GB) output option and it will keep the same structure, but allow you to blank audio and subtitle tracks as well as some unwanted files! :cool:

I know, but here we works with BD3D.

[HWK]

I know, but here we works with BD3D.

In that case you should consider asking physic to implement support for seamless branching. I know it can read disc which contain seamless branching, so writing seamless tile is only thing needed to complete support for it. On a second thought I want this feature to be implemented as well and let me send pm to physic and let him know.

[airsoft]

just for sport I will try again, but I've tested before such situation. I've opened MPLS and produced m2ts file with MVC, audio and subs and I've replaced in folder that contains original ISO. PowerDVD started playing, counter was increased but no video and no audio.

Regards

Hi guys,

finally I've made my first movie with integrated bulgarian subtitles. The big problem for PowerDVD13 is that: it expected as first track AVC stream and as second MVC stream.

original - not working
V_MPEG4/ISO/MVC, "Y:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00008.ssif", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4114
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "Y:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00008.ssif", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113

modified - works
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "Y:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00008.ssif", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113
V_MPEG4/ISO/MVC, "Y:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00008.ssif", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4114

Uncheck the original Russian subtitles with my Bulgarian subtitles (SRT). It works.

Now I'm muxing again to test that, will I see in PowerDVD13 menu - bulgarian or russian info for the subtitles.

I suppose it can be fixed in future version.

Regards
:thanks:

[HWK]

Hi guys,

finally I've made my first movie with integrated bulgarian subtitles. The big problem for PowerDVD13 is that: it expected as first track AVC stream and as second MVC stream.

original - not working
V_MPEG4/ISO/MVC, "Y:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00008.ssif", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4114
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "Y:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00008.ssif", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113

modified - works
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "Y:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00008.ssif", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113
V_MPEG4/ISO/MVC, "Y:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00008.ssif", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4114

Uncheck the original Russian subtitles with my Bulgarian subtitles (SRT). It works.

Now I'm muxing again to test that, will I see in PowerDVD13 menu - bulgarian or russian info for the subtitles.

I suppose it can be fixed in future version.

Regards
:thanks:

Hmm, nice to know are you doing m2ts muxing or creating Blu-ray disk. If you create Blu-ray disk order doesn't matter. However for m2ts and or similar output order make a difference.

TMT 5 expect stereo or mvc stream first, or at least in my case and follow by avc view. In either case nice find and it is good to know.

[Cedvano]

Hi guys,

finally I've made my first movie with integrated bulgarian subtitles. The big problem for PowerDVD13 is that: it expected as first track AVC stream and as second MVC stream.

original - not working
V_MPEG4/ISO/MVC, "Y:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00008.ssif", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4114
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "Y:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00008.ssif", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113

modified - works
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "Y:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00008.ssif", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113
V_MPEG4/ISO/MVC, "Y:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00008.ssif", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4114

Uncheck the original Russian subtitles with my Bulgarian subtitles (SRT). It works.

Now I'm muxing again to test that, will I see in PowerDVD13 menu - bulgarian or russian info for the subtitles.

I suppose it can be fixed in future version.

Regards
:thanks:

And you create an ISO with this SSIF ?
How do you make that ? Your ISO file is big ?

[airsoft]

And you create an ISO with this SSIF ?
How do you make that ? Your ISO file is big ?

No, I didn't.

1) just extract the ISO to a folder and delete all m2ts files from folder STREAM
or
2) make a BluRay with TSMuxer and then remove STREAM\00000.m2ts and STREAM\00001.m2ts and run again TSMuxer to create STREAM\SSIF\00000.ssif

making of ISO file requires a lot of work as I know. It uses UDF 2.5 which supports hard links like linux file system. Mean 1 block could be include in more than 1 file. Sorry if you already know that.

Regards

[Cedvano]

making of ISO file requires a lot of work as I know. It uses UDF 2.5 which supports hard links like linux file system. Mean 1 block could be include in more than 1 file. Sorry if you already know that.

Have you got a link for your ISO software ?

Because, I think, if your adds M2TS files size (13GB+7GB) and SSIF size (20MB), you have a total ISO of 40GB ?

[HWK]

No, I didn't.

1) just extract the ISO to a folder and delete all m2ts files from folder STREAM
or
2) make a BluRay with TSMuxer and then remove STREAM\00000.m2ts and STREAM\00001.m2ts and run again TSMuxer to create STREAM\SSIF\00000.ssif

making of ISO file requires a lot of work as I know. It uses UDF 2.5 which supports hard links like linux file system. Mean 1 block could be include in more than 1 file. Sorry if you already know that.

Regards

The real question is about playback. Are you able to play movie from files generated. Also how about disc playback?

[airsoft]

The real question is about playback. Are you able to play movie from files generated. Also how about disc playback?

It is playable.
But last night and today I saw something very bad.
From time to time I see artefacts in picture and sometimes sound is with noises and creaks.
I started few times the movie and the problem is every time at same place i.e. HH:MM:SS. and not at only one time.
I tested the original movie, there is no such problem.
:confused:

[DigitalfreakNYC]

I have an .m4v file that I'm constantly having a problem with burning using MultAVChd.

It has a frame-rate of 23.976. I use mkvtoolnix to change it to an mkv file, where the frame-rate remains 23.976.

When I try to author and burn to disc using MultiavcHD (which uses tsmuxer), TSmuxer says "Frame Rate: not found" even though Multiavchd still shows 23.976. The resulting file shows a frame-rate of 25fps.

Any ideas? Is there a problem with the header? Is there any way to change that without completely re-encoding?

Here's the info on the initial file:


General
Complete name : enhanced_commentary.m4v
Format : MPEG-4
Codec ID : M4V
File size : 4.83 GiB
Duration : 2h 42mn
Overall bit rate : 4 247 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2013-08-18 23:12:27
Tagged date : UTC 2013-08-18 23:13:35

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L3.1
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=2, N=80
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 2h 42mn
Bit rate : 4 092 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.185
Stream size : 4.65 GiB (96%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2013-08-18 23:12:20
Tagged date : UTC 2013-08-18 23:13:35
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 2h 42mn
Source duration : 2h 42mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 149 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 160 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : 42ms
Stream size : 173 MiB (3%)
Source stream size : 173 MiB (3%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2013-08-18 23:12:21
Tagged date : UTC 2013-08-18 23:13:35



But once it hits tsmuxer:

http://imageshack.com/a/img542/5863/9z7a.jpg

[mariner]

In that case you should consider asking physic to implement support for seamless branching. I know it can read disc which contain seamless branching, so writing seamless tile is only thing needed to complete support for it. On a second thought I want this feature to be implemented as well and let me send pm to physic and let him know.

Greetings HWK. That's an excellent idea.

Perhaps you could also remind Roman to fix the IG Menu issue.

Many thanks and best regards.

[ExSport]

Cedvano
Could you provide original movie example (before processing in tsMuxeR)? May be you can cut problem place. Also, please try process movie without checkboxes "insertSPS" and "picture timings".
@Roman: Should it be disabled by default or you asked for it for debugging reasons only?
For best results (best compatible, seekable and A/V synced TS files) we should use both features enabled or not? By default they are enabled.
Many thanks for you great work!

[airsoft]

It is playable.
But last night and today I saw something very bad.
From time to time I see artefacts in picture and sometimes sound is with noises and creaks.
I started few times the movie and the problem is every time at same place i.e. HH:MM:SS. and not at only one time.
I tested the original movie, there is no such problem.
:confused:

some tests

tsMuxer - made file
O:\!!!_Movies_!!!\Transformers_-_Dark_Of_The_Moon_3D\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF>eac3to 00000.ssif
M2TS, 2 video tracks, 4 audio tracks, 3 subtitle tracks, 24p /1.001

original file
O:\!!!_Movies_!!!\Transformers_-_Dark_Of_The_Moon_3D\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF>eac3to y:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00008.ssif
M2TS, 2 video tracks, 4 audio tracks, 3 subtitle tracks, 2:34:24, 24p /1.001

no length is detected
using the following software
1) Media Player Classic - Home Cinema -1.6.8.7417
2) LAV Splitter - 0.58.2
3) LAV Audio Decoder - 0.58.2
4) LAV Video Decoder - 0.58.2

seek bar of the MPC-HC is disabled
when I've tried to seek via Ctrl+G (Go To...) the player says "it is not possible to seek because the length is unknown"

I'm not sure is it related to the artefacts in video/audio, but notice that is a problem.

Regards

[Goodfellow]

Hi all,
I would like to eliminate seamless branching from a 3d Bluray iso file (I kept only the movie & 3D format using DVDFAb) :
Is TSMuxer the right tool to do so ? Should I demux then remux to eliminate the branching ?

[dorati]

At some movies Left/Right ist not correct - How i can Change this? where is stored, witch strea is left, witch right ?

[Sharc]

Did you try to tick / untick in tsMuxeR GUI Blu-Ray Tab, "Use base video stream for right eye" ?

[dorati]

thx for the info. I don't see this Switch before!

[HWK]

Greetings HWK. That's an excellent idea.

Perhaps you could also remind Roman to fix the IG Menu issue.

Many thanks and best regards.

I got acknowledgement from Roman about adding support for it.

[HWK]

some tests

tsMuxer - made file
O:\!!!_Movies_!!!\Transformers_-_Dark_Of_The_Moon_3D\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF>eac3to 00000.ssif
M2TS, 2 video tracks, 4 audio tracks, 3 subtitle tracks, 24p /1.001

original file
O:\!!!_Movies_!!!\Transformers_-_Dark_Of_The_Moon_3D\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF>eac3to y:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00008.ssif
M2TS, 2 video tracks, 4 audio tracks, 3 subtitle tracks, 2:34:24, 24p /1.001

no length is detected
using the following software
1) Media Player Classic - Home Cinema -1.6.8.7417
2) LAV Splitter - 0.58.2
3) LAV Audio Decoder - 0.58.2
4) LAV Video Decoder - 0.58.2

seek bar of the MPC-HC is disabled
when I've tried to seek via Ctrl+G (Go To...) the player says "it is not possible to seek because the length is unknown"

I'm not sure is it related to the artefacts in video/audio, but notice that is a problem.

Regards

I am interested in producing outcome of this on my side and will appreciate if you can tell me all the steps you took to reach this point.

[mariner]

I got acknowledgement from Roman about adding support for it.

Splendid. Many thanks for your kind effort.

[dorati]

Something is not correct (BUG ????):

Original Bluray (Cars2) works fine in 3D. Another tool gives the Info:
#Left_View = AVC
#Right_View = MVC
#Bits = 01000000

Then I open in tsmuxerGui 00801.mpls and create Bluray with the Result, that there is no real 3D-Effekt. (I must Change Left/Right on TV).

The tool give this Info:
#Left_View = MVC
#Right_View = AVC
#Bits = 01010000


The Checkbox under Bluray-Authoring has no function... Result is always the same... No AVC on Left-View.
Something is not ok ....

[airsoft]

I am interested in producing outcome of this on my side and will appreciate if you can tell me all the steps you took to reach this point.

1) mount ISO file
2) use eac3to to choose right playlist
eac3to <daemon_tools_drive:>
and look carefully which playlist
2) open tsMuxerGUI
3) open correct playlist
4) open your subtitles SRT file
5) uncheck all necessary subtitles and audio tracks
6) move MVC stream as second one
7) make a BluRay to chosen folder
8) make SSIF folder in BDMV\STREAM folder
9) make M2TS file to BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00000.m2ts
10) rename it from 00000.m2ts 00000.ssif
11) you can erase BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts and 00001.m2ts if you want
11) PowerDVD13 plays the folder in 3D/2D mode

but
1) Transformers - Dark Of The Moon has artefacts with audio and video
2) Iron Man 3 - has no video

so sorry, but I cannot offer in public space output file i.e. produced by tsMuxer

Regards

[HWK]

1) mount ISO file
2) use eac3to to choose right playlist
eac3to <daemon_tools_drive:>
and look carefully which playlist
2) open tsMuxerGUI
3) open correct playlist
4) open your subtitles SRT file
5) uncheck all necessary subtitles and audio tracks
6) move MVC stream as second one
7) make a BluRay to chosen folder
8) make SSIF folder in BDMV\STREAM folder
9) make M2TS file to BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00000.m2ts
10) rename it from 00000.m2ts 00000.ssif
11) you can erase BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts and 00001.m2ts if you want
11) PowerDVD13 plays the folder in 3D/2D mode

but
1) Transformers - Dark Of The Moon has artefacts with audio and video
2) Iron Man 3 - has no video

so sorry, but I cannot offer in public space output file i.e. produced by tsMuxer

Regards

Thank you, I have both movies and will try it out. As for subs I will create dummy file to help asses problem.

Also from you steps I can confirm you are only producing 2D version of movie not 3D. For 3D what you are seeing simulation of 3d playback from powerdvd, not real 3D. Remember 00000.m2ts is only base view and renaming to 00000.ssif doesn't make into 3D.

[HWK]

Ok, I just finished with transformers and I can confirm in my case there is sound but no video. I will perform investigation to get to bottom of this problem.

[jediknight]

@physic, will be any update soon ?

[physic]

I continue working on ISO. I expect new alpha version to the next weekend (13.09).

[Cedvano]

Iron Man 3 works fine for me. Video and audio, all is ok.

If I understand, you keep only the SSIF files ???? It's don't playable on BD Player ?

[HWK]

1) mount ISO file
2) use eac3to to choose right playlist
eac3to <daemon_tools_drive:>
and look carefully which playlist
2) open tsMuxerGUI
3) open correct playlist
4) open your subtitles SRT file
5) uncheck all necessary subtitles and audio tracks
6) move MVC stream as second one
7) make a BluRay to chosen folder
8) make SSIF folder in BDMV\STREAM folder
9) make M2TS file to BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00000.m2ts
10) rename it from 00000.m2ts 00000.ssif
11) you can erase BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts and 00001.m2ts if you want
11) PowerDVD13 plays the folder in 3D/2D mode

but
1) Transformers - Dark Of The Moon has artefacts with audio and video
2) Iron Man 3 - has no video

so sorry, but I cannot offer in public space output file i.e. produced by tsMuxer

Regards

Thank you, I have both movies and will try it out. As for subs I will create dummy file to help asses problem.

Also from you steps I can confirm you are only producing 2D version of movie not 3D. For 3D what you are seeing simulation of 3d playback from powerdvd, not real 3D. Remember 00000.m2ts is only base view and renaming to 00000.ssif doesn't make into 3D.

Ok, I just finished with transformers and I can confirm in my case there is sound but no video. I will perform investigation to get to bottom of this problem.

I just finished my investigation and finally I was able to find and fix problem. I tired my solution on transformers and it works. I can seek in time line and there are no artifacts either during playback.

[airsoft]

Thank you, I have both movies and will try it out. As for subs I will create dummy file to help asses problem.

Also from you steps I can confirm you are only producing 2D version of movie not 3D. For 3D what you are seeing simulation of 3d playback from powerdvd, not real 3D. Remember 00000.m2ts is only base view and renaming to 00000.ssif doesn't make into 3D.

No. Read carefully. The only reason I've renamed the file is that the player wants a 00000.ssif. The file contains both AVC and MVC streams. It's a true SSIF file. Not only renamed one.


O:\!!!_Movies_!!!\Iron_Man_3_3D\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF>eac3to 00000.ssif
M2TS, 2 video tracks, 1 audio track, 2:10:33, 24p /1.001
1: h264/AVC (left eye), 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
2: h264/AVC (right eye), 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9), -1000ms
3: DTS Master Audio, English, 7.1 channels, 24 bits, 48kHz, -1000ms
(core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 1509kbps, 48kHz)

Only 2D version is working normally. A SSIF file remuxed with tsMuxer isn't played normally with PowerDVD13 after that.
Media Player Classic - Home Cinema and StereoScopic Player works with the file.

Seems tsMuxer needs more improvements.

Regards.

[HWK]

In that case I think you need to revise point 9, 10 they are bit unclear.

9) make M2TS file to BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00000.m2ts
10) rename it from 00000.m2ts 00000.ssif

[HWK]

Also what I did for transformers is to open 00800.mpls which is main movie from disk and choose m2ts muxing in tsmuxer first and in dialog box asking where to save file I save as 00000.ssif file. Creating one ssif file which is 36.4 gb in ssif folder.

Second time I create blu-ray disk and movie ssif folder inside stream folder of blu-ray disk folder.I also renamed m2ts so they are not accessed by player anymore and for me it worked.

[physic]

New update with a couple of hotfixes:
tsMuxeR 1.12.14(b) (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0VmPcEZTp8NcDgzWUlwby1HQ1E/edit?usp=sharing)

- tsMuxeR speed increased by 15% (you should have fast disk to feel the difference). Sorry guys. :-) I spent some "ISO" time to this feature just for fun in the last weekend because of I've bougth new fast SSD. I've got 420Mb/second if read data from Plextor 5m pro and write data to NULL device. More speed is expected in the final ISO version as well.
- bug fixed: 'right-eye' option was broken and was always turn on
- bug fixed: for some movies with H.264 video join operation cause video glitches in join point (added code to remove "End Of Sequence" from H.264 stream in a join point)

[HWK]

physic, for iso are you planning to code iso creation whenever blu-ray disk is selected for output and have mvc stream or it is gone be option in tsmuxer to create iso only when requested.