tsMuxeR update for 3D blu-ray

[frencher]

If possible Force this PGS track (By default) ;)
Thank's

http://i43.tinypic.com/15nrjhd.png

[hndts]

BigCondor
I've fixed both problems reported by you. But I have several more minor fixes to do. So, I'll update new version tomorrow or after tomorrow.

Dear Physic

As you know the total bitrate for each view is 48Mb and both views not over 64Mb.

I tried to ad many audio as I can so the 3D iso tsMuxeR makes is not compatible with the player. It runs not very smoothly, stops and plays repeatedly. very bad

Can you ad the warning popup before muxing?

Thanks!

[HWK]

Dear Physic

As you know the total bitrate for each view is 48Mb and both views not over 64Mb.

I tried to ad many audio as I can so the 3D iso tsMuxeR makes is not compatible with the player. It runs not very smoothly, stops and plays repeatedly. very bad

Can you ad the warning popup before muxing?

Thanks!
Just for clarification purposes for 2D version total bitrate of movie is 40 mbps, however with audio, subs and muxing it can't go over 48mbps.

3D base and dependent view can't have over 60 mbps and 64 with all assets included and muxing.

[BigCondor]

BigCondor
I've fixed both problems reported by you. But I have several more minor fixes to do. So, I'll update new version tomorrow or after tomorrow.

Thanks a lot for all these hard works! :thanks:

[sl1pkn07]

waiting to linux version!

greetings

[physic]

Update with minor fixes is ready:

improvments:
- add control for select/unselect all tracks at once

bug fixes:
- extract ac3 core from e-ac3 track fixed
- fixed option --m2tsOffset (was broken in version 2.x.x)
- fixed 'bufer overflow' error message if simultaneously mux several m2ts files and one of them has PSG tracks only
- fixed problem with too long file names in demux mode for large mpls files ( I refactored mpls handling a little bit, meta file contains mpls name instead of items names)


tsMuxeR 2.0.7(b) (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0VmPcEZTp8NU1k1WGJLdUNMY1E/edit?usp=sharing)

[koutou]

I finally figured out how to add external 3D subtitles. I had to convert them to blu-ray (.sup) format first.
I still though don't understand the 3d offset option. Sometimes it gives me only the option of zerro. Some other times it gives me many options.
Can you please physic explain what these options are? I have tried finding the answer in this thread but I had no luck.
Thank you again for thiw wonderful tool.

Regards.

[physic]

tsMuxeR read amount of subtitle offsets from MVC stream.
So, subtitles offsets are placed inside MVC stream (technically it is a H.264 user SEI message).

Each offset track contains z-order for each video frame. So, subtitles have individual 3d depth for each text message. I don't know why may disks have several offsets, I believe single offset for all languages is enough.

[koutou]

tsMuxeR read amount of subtitle offsets from MVC stream.
So, subtitles offsets are placed inside MVC stream (technically it is a H.264 user SEI message).

Each offset track contains z-order for each video frame. So, subtitles have individual 3d depth for each text message. I don't know why may disks have several offsets, I believe single offset for all languages is enough.

So, what is the best way to add an external subtitle?

I had one bluray that I removed all internal subtitles and added my external .sup file and gave it the offset of 1 and the subtitles appeared in 3D mode.

Now I'm trying to do the same with another movie (removed all internal subtitles) and I only get the zero offset option.
The subtitles do not show in 3D mode after remux.

Thank you.

[physic]

koutou
I believe the best way to add external subtitles just select track #1 as you did.

Now I'm trying to do the same with another movie (removed all internal subtitles) and I only get the zero offset option.
The subtitles do not show in 3D mode after remux
tsMuxeR can't generate 3D offsets for a while. But I am going to improve subtitles to next version.

[koutou]

koutou
I believe the best way to add external subtitles just select track #1 as you did.


tsMuxeR can't generate 3D offsets for a while. But I am going to improve subtitles to next version.

Thank you.

The problem is that I can't select anything else than zero offset in most of the movies I have tried. And this does not produce 3D subtitles.
Looking forward to your next version :)

[physic]

koutou
Is most of your movies doesn't have any PSG tracks?

[koutou]

koutou
Is most of your movies doesn't have any PSG tracks?

They all do. They are original blu-rays.

Look at the example from pacific rim.

I have left all subtitles and extras just for you to see. I try to add external subtitle and I get only 3d option zero offset.
Even If I delete all extras I still get only zero offset as option.

Edit. For some reason my attachment needs approval first so you might not see it instantly

[HWK]

They all do. They are original blu-rays.

Look at the example from pacific rim.

I have left all subtitles and extras just for you to see. I try to add external subtitle and I get only 3d option zero offset.
Even If I delete all extras I still get only zero offset as option.

Edit. For some reason my attachment needs approval first so you might not see it instantly

koutou, it is doing with every title. I just tried avatar and it does the same. Even though avatar has 3d subtitle embedded in dependent view stream as well.

[physic]

It is looks like bug. I'll fix it soon

[colinhunt]

physic, dunno if you're aware, but tsmuxer appears to be having problems with PGS subtitles in some Anime titles (and only in Anime titles). Jdobbs' BD-Rebuilder uses tsMuxeR and sometimes it produces Anime backups where subs disappear all of sudden. Most of the time PowerDVD also crashes at the point where subs disappear.

I can usually fix the problem by using MeGUI's HD Streams Extractor (which runs eac3to AFAIK) to extract PGS files from the original, then injecting the files into the backup using multiAVCHD in Re-Author mode.

[physic]

koutou
I fixed bug with 3d-plane selection. Please, check it.

tsMuxeR 2.0.8(b) (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0VmPcEZTp8NNGkzNlhjNHFTQnc/edit?usp=sharing)

Also, ui speed improved a little bit in case of many tracks. I did not include this to release notes.

[Emulgator]

Just to remind everyone, BD-RB (the recent version 0.44.17) still uses tsmuxeR.exe from 21.05.2009
Seemingly BZeeme is about to point jdobbs to the availability of a newer version.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=169546

[koutou]

koutou
I fixed bug with 3d-plane selection. Please, check it.

tsMuxeR 2.0.8(b) (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0VmPcEZTp8NNGkzNlhjNHFTQnc/edit?usp=sharing)

Also, ui speed improved a little bit in case of many tracks. I did not include this to release notes.

Great! I tested two movies and everything went smooth! I will test how they appear with my projector tonight as I just only tested on PC.

I was wondering how hard would be to be able to do the same with srt subtitles. As I know, tsmuxer is perfectly capable of converting srt subtitles to pgs format. So if you give us the option to add a 3D offset to srt subtitles, can't tsmuxer convert them to pgs and then apply the offset? I'm not sure how you handle 3D subtitles. All I know is that if I add pgs external subtitles they are converted (or not?) and played in 3D mode.

Hope I didn't confuse you. :)

Thank you again!

[Video Dude]

Just to remind everyone, BD-RB (the recent version 0.44.17) still uses tsmuxeR.exe from 21.05.2009
Seemingly BZeeme is about to point jdobbs to the availability of a newer version.



jdobbs will support the new version of tsmuxer, but will wait until it is out of beta and he has fully tested it to work with BD-RB.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1649791#post1649791

[tymoxa]

tsmuxer supports DTS Express, at least it can demux it. The problem with DTS Express is that during mux it must be placed (according to bd specs) in playlist as subpath (Secondary Audio), which is not supported by tsmuxer for now. The same problem with PiP (Secondary Video).

[Cedvano]

koutou
I fixed bug with 3d-plane selection. Please, check it.

tsMuxeR 2.0.8(b) (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0VmPcEZTp8NNGkzNlhjNHFTQnc/edit?usp=sharing)

Also, ui speed improved a little bit in case of many tracks. I did not include this to release notes.

Work with me !

[SquallMX]

@physicTSMuxerGUI (newest version) fails when loading this AC3 file or a MT2S containing it, 1.10.6 works properly:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gnvdj8jq30pyct7/3_6_audio.ac3

[frencher]

@physic
It's possible ?

If possible Force this PGS track (By default) ;)
Thank's

http://i43.tinypic.com/15nrjhd.png

[physic]

frencher
I don't see a reason in 'force' option. You should have 3d offsets accessible if you update version to 2.0.8. Please, check it

[HWK]

@physic
It's possible ?

frencher
I don't see a reason in 'force' option. You should have 3d offsets accessible if you update version to 2.0.8. Please, check it

Physic, I think frencher is referring to create an option to force subtitle. It would work like this highlight stream and check off option forced and blu-ray players will now display this stream as if it was forced stream. Similar to scenario when user encounter foreign language in movie and subs are displayed.

[Video Dude]

A forced bluray subtitle track was also one of my feature requests. It would be great if tsmuxer could force a subtitle track to display automatically when the bluray is played.

[physic]

HWK
Ok. I understand now.

[int1422]

Physic," First let me say congratulation with a so powerful App you made for us. I use it 24 hours a day.
(Question) Do you have a tsmuxerGUI manual and or Tricks and Tips Guide?
If so," please send link to my mail: int1422@hotmail.com

Thank you in advanced

[nunub]

@physic

Everything is ok for now but only problem is when joining two or three 3d m2ts files. Originally the files apart plays fine in stereoscopic player but when it is joined together with tsmuxer the case is horrible and corrupt. The first file is ok but from where it is joined the file started to play jerky. I hope u just see this as a minor correction for ur already hard and good work done. And i had already mailed u in this regard.

[marcusj0015]

filler56789
Not now. May be in a future. But I am going to do some bug fixes after 3d feature.

I don't mean to pile onto the "release teh source code!111" bandwagon, but the Mac OS version doesn't even work in 10.8/10.9 (I haven't checked 10.7 but I suspect it's the same there as well), and Tsmuxer is really the only program that does m2ts muxing, so source is pretty important to use, but regardless of that, thanks for the update, and I'll try to Google around for the latest spec for you. :)

Oh, also you should check out the dts-hd spec just to be sure that your parser keeps everything lossless, I have a copy of that pdf if you need.

[frencher]

Physic, I think frencher is referring to create an option to force subtitle. It would work like this highlight stream and check off option forced and blu-ray players will now display this stream as if it was forced stream. Similar to scenario when user encounter foreign language in movie and subs are displayed.


HWK :goodpost:
Sorry i'm very bad in English

A forced bluray subtitle track was also one of my feature requests. It would be great if tsmuxer could force a subtitle track to display automatically when the bluray is played.

Same ;)

@physic
I suggest if possible support with cmd line (GUI)
tsMuxerGUI.exe "Film.m2ts"
:thanks:

[tymoxa]

Guys, what do you mean by "forced subtitles"?
The separate subtitle track (like it used by Disney, Universal, Paramount) or some captions with flag "forced=true" within the subtitle track (like it used by Fox in Avatar for example)? They must be enabled in different ways.

[frencher]

Guys, what do you mean by "forced subtitles"?
The separate subtitle track (like it used by Disney, Universal, Paramount) or some captions with flag "forced=true" within the subtitle track (like it used by Fox in Avatar for example)? They must be enabled in different ways.

From original BD same with AVATAR (Sub = subtitle)
http://i40.tinypic.com/35003mq.jpg

[Goodfellow]

I'm trying to join Titanic 3D part 1 and part 2 in a single 3D iso file using tsmuxer but so far no luck: 1st part is ok, 2nd part is out of sync (part2 audio shows -7ms delay on demux GUI ) and no chapters.
I demuxed both parts then joined the tracks and remuxed. Is there another way to do this properly ?

[HWK]

HWK :goodpost:
Sorry i'm very bad in English


No problem, that is why I am here to help out :)

[Stereodude]

Guys, what do you mean by "forced subtitles"?
The separate subtitle track (like it used by Disney, Universal, Paramount) or some captions with flag "forced=true" within the subtitle track (like it used by Fox in Avatar for example)? They must be enabled in different ways.In my experience the subtitles that are flagged as forced mixed in with the other captions in a single file display automatically if that subtitle track is the first one on the disc. The separate subtitle track variety have to be set to automatically play with something like BDEdit by adding a set stream command.

Your experience is different?

[fits79]

Why the split by size or time DOESN'T work ar 3d movies like pacific rim?

It bring that issue/error
"Unknnown exception. It does not have to be! Please contact application support team for more information"

[ExSport]

@physic:
Thanks for your great work!
Tested your latest v2.0.8 with 2D ffmpeg sample and found some problems with tsMuxeR:

ffmpeg_sample.ts file is playable on PC and PS3(HW)
when remuxed with "Add picture timing info" ticked, PC plays it ok but not PS3 - time and picture is jumping backward and forward like crazy
unticking it fixes problems on PS3. Why?
when "ffmpeg sample.ts" is imported with mpg extension, audio track is not recognized
when "ffmpeg sample.ts" is imported with mpeg extension, stream type can't be detected so nothing is imported

Original sample+remuxed files uploaded here: https://copy.com/GoqLaZ6kKKEt
Hope it will be fixed:thanks:
P.S. New version finally displays Paypal in english...donation on the way:)

[frencher]

@physic
Thanks for your works ;)
27 oct 2013 Donate at Васи..... Р..

[HWK]

In my experience the subtitles that are flagged as forced mixed in with the other captions in a single file display automatically...


You are right up to this point. However only for the movie which are done this way, I know few where force subs are burned in video. World War Z is one of many example where forced are burned directly in video.

What I am thinking is physic would add option which will set force flag on all time stamps of PGS and essentially become forced subtitle.

[hndts]

You are right up to this point. However only for the movie which are done this way, I know few where force subs are burned in video. World War Z is one of many example where forced are burned directly in video.

What I am thinking is physic would add option which will set force flag on all time stamps of PGS and essentially become forced subtitle.

I think force flag should not be here.
As I've learn, force flag is just applied for some moments, not for the whole movie. pls, use the BDSup2Sub

[frencher]

I used this little program to force tracks subtitles

Download: => Audio and Sub Patcher.exe (http://ul.to/7p8nrcjb)

http://i41.tinypic.com/119t45z.png

[Muximal]

Latest version of tsMuxeR is here:
tsMuxeR 2.0.8(b) (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0VmPcEZTp8NNGkzNlhjNHFTQnc/edit?usp=sharing)

Please, please, please provide linux binaries of program and gui - preferbly x86-64

[Muximal]

Please, please, please provide Linux binaries for tsMuxeR-2.0.x and tsMuxerGUI - preferably x86-64

[Video Dude]

I think force flag should not be here.
As I've learn, force flag is just applied for some moments, not for the whole movie. pls, use the BDSup2Sub

That's not true. A subtitle can be forced for an entire movie.

It would be easier and safer to specify a force subtitle in tsmuxer instead of using another program after the mux (another program that can introduce errors if you do it wrong).

If physic decides to add this feature I'm sure many people will find it useful.

But either way, a big thank you to physic for his continued work on tsmuxer.

[frencher]

That's not true. A subtitle can be forced for an entire movie.

It would be easier and safer to specify a force subtitle in tsmuxer instead of using another program after the mux (another program that can introduce errors if you do it wrong).

If physic decides to add this feature I'm sure many people will find it useful.

Greetings Video Dude :)

[colinhunt]

If physic decides to add this feature I'm sure many people will find it useful.
I would definitely find it useful. And nobody's forcing anyone to use it, so what's the harm?

[HWK]

Greetings Video Dude :)

I would definitely find it useful. And nobody's forcing anyone to use it, so what's the harm?

I agree let have one tool which handle everything, it is easier to troubleshoot if any problems occur.

[frencher]

I agree let have one tool which handle everything, it is easier to troubleshoot if any problems occur.

Thanks HWK and all ;)