eac3to - audio conversion tool

[dansrfe]

yes^ It should be bit-for-bit identical.

[shogo_kawada]

@shogo_kawada

Hi!

I believe you should be able to use tsMuxeR instead (in conjunction with AnyDVDHD) ...
Hi :)

So TsMuxeR can also demux hd-dvds? I'll try that as soon as I go home from work

[rapscallion]

so what about the last channel, is it back centrered? because back surround only at 1 side doesnt make much sense
Yes, it's rear, center. Again, strange track, can't imagine why they included it as a 2nd Eng track.

[shogo_kawada]

No luck with my Blade Runner HD-DVD yet :(. Anybody here has it? Could it be a damaged disc?

[setarip_old]

@shogo_awada No luck with my Blade Runner HD-DVD yetAnd EXACTLY what happened when you tried tsMuxeR?

[Thunderbolt8]

for me, the HD DVD has already worked back then when it came out, so the disc itself & eac3to working with it shouldnt be the problem.

[shogo_kawada]

@shogo_awada And EXACTLY what happened when you tried tsMuxeR?

I just can't find a way to select the correct playlist. I mean, with tsmuxer (I use the official GUI) I don't have a way to select a disc drive or a hd-dvd folder structure. Do I have to select every single segment evo file and join them?

[Thunderbolt8]

only the two biggest ones, like feature_1 & feature_2 or pevob_1, pevob_2

[shogo_kawada]

only the two biggest ones, like feature_1 & feature_2 or pevob_1, pevob_2
Normally that's right, but this is a seamless branching disc. It has lots of segments (called DC_01, DC_02, INT_01, INT_02 and so on). Each of the three version of the movie is a different playlist which combines in its own way the existing segments (for exemple: DC_01+DC_02+...+DC_XX is the dir cut, while DC_01+INT_01+INT02+DC_02 etc is the domestic).

[setarip_old]

@shogo_kawada Do I have to select every single segment evo file and join them?Every one that's part of your selected playlist/version, yes (IIRC).

On the other hand (It's been a while since I last dealt with my HD-DVDs), I believe an earlier program, "EVODemux" can use the "VTI" file, which I believe contains the playlists, to join the requisite video files...

[shogo_kawada]

Ok I'll try these two methods (evodemux and tsmuxer selecting all the segments), even though eac3to ALREADY selects the right playlist, joining all the segments.

I think one of the problems is that this particular seamless branching isn't just a matter of different playlists of fixed segments, since there's a version of the movie (the director's cut) which uses a different soundtrack. I think this is the reason for eac3to listing 6 soundtrack for each playlist instead of the 3 listed on the back cover.

BTW since this is an eac3to thread, maybe I should post the results on another thread. The issue with this program stands though: is there anyone (madshi maybe) who knows how to make eac3to work with this particular disc?

UPDATE: trying tsmuxer (manually adding every segment) seems to have worked! I can't understand why it doesn't work in eac3to though

[setarip_old]

@shogo_kawada UPDATE: trying tsmuxer (manually adding every segment) seems to have worked! I can't understand why it doesn't work in eac3to thoughGlad to hear my first suggestion worked for you...



I can't understand why it doesn't work in eac3to thoughThat's why there are programs that perform similar functions ;>}

[asarian]

I'm getting some real fu-barred result extracting the English .sup track (nr. 15) from Avatar, the Extended Blu-Ray edition; here it is: sups (http://www.mediafire.com/file/9b1b6tb2uc8ouz3/avatar_e2.sup).

The timings are extremely off. It starts with a suptitle at 15 mins, then at 4 mins, etc. And I can't get any of the subs to actually show with the AviSynth SupTitle plugin.

Can anyone please look into this?

Thanks.

[setarip_old]

@asarian

Hi!

If it's not resolved using EAC3to, then I believe you too should be able to use tsMuxeR instead (in conjunction with AnyDVDHD) ...

[asarian]

@asarian

Hi!

If it's not resolved using EAC3to, then I believe you too should be able to use tsMuxeR instead (in conjunction with AnyDVDHD) ...

Thanks! That actually worked (I had never used tsMuxeR to extract subs from a playlist before). The resultant .sup file is perfect. :)

Still, for future reference, would be nice if eac3to could get it right, too, of course.

[shogo_kawada]

@shogo_kawada Glad to hear my first suggestion worked for you...



That's why there are programs that perform similar functions ;>}

Thanks again :). But I've got another one for you: I still got issues with the subtitle streams. TsMuxer doesn't seem to be able to demux those (am I missing something or TsMuxer only sees video and audio tracks? No chapter nor subtitles), and the ones demuxed by eac3to got sync issues (like audio tracks demuxed by eac3to did). How can I properly demux the subs track?

Thanks! That actually worked (I had never used tsMuxeR to extract subs from a playlist before). The resultant .sup file is perfect. :)

Did you use the GUI? When I load an evo file from that tsmuxer only shows video and audio streams

[asarian]

Did you use the GUI? When I load an evo file from that tsmuxer only shows video and audio streams

The Avatar Extended disc I used is a Blu-Ray, it doesn't have EVO files. :) It has a PLAYLIST dir with .mpls files (which I needed here, as the main feature is scattered over 20+ individual segments).

[setarip_old]

@asarian Thanks! That actually workedYou're quite welcome ;>}

[hoju3508]

@shogo_kawada, have you tried using Clown_BD (http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=25818)? I've used this many times to extract from HD-DVD.

[setarip_old]

@shogo_kawada

If your desired end result is an .MKV file, have you tried using MakeMKV (NO other programs needed) to, with one click, decrypt and convert to an .MKV file - and then, if necessary, use MKVMerge?

[shogo_kawada]

@shogo_kawada, have you tried using Clown_BD (http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=25818)? I've used this many times to extract from HD-DVD.
I tried it, but it had the same problems eac3to had. I guess it's because it uses eac3to for the demuxing process.
@shogo_kawada

If your desired end result is an .MKV file, have you tried using MakeMKV (NO other programs needed) to, with one click, decrypt and convert to an .MKV file - and then, if necessary, use MKVMerge?
I didn't know Makemkv worked with hd-dvd too! I'm trying right now. I read that it doesn't strip the pulldown flag, so I guess I'll just have to do a second demux/remux with either eac3to or TsMuxer + mkvmerge. I'll post the results by the way, thanks again ;)

[shogo_kawada]

Ok, I tried and here's some partial results (I had to go to work so I won't be able to continue until tomorrow): Makemkv seems to have correctly identified the 3 playlists, and audio tracks are well in sync throughout the whole movies. I can't tell about the subs though, since vlc didn't display them, even though mediainfo detects them. When I come back home I got to try to demux the mkvs created by makemkv (stripping the pulldown flag in the process), open the idx/sub files with suprip and see if if there's anything wrong with them, and remux with mkvmerge.

[Thunderbolt8]

tiny bit off topic (but not entirely, since this tool/frontend uses eac3to), maybe some people with programming skills like to participate (not my project btw)

http://code.google.com/p/xin1generator/

[oddwunn]

Is this the right thread to report problems with eac3to? If so, I would like to report 3 new issues:

1. On the German release of Lethal Weapon 4, the audio is out of sync with the video by about 15-20 seconds using eac3to. If demuxed with TSMuxer everything lines up correctly.

2. The subtitle streams in Avatar Extended Collector's Edition are not in sync with the Extended version or the Director's Cut. Once again, if you open the extended playlist file in TSMuxer and demux subs from there, they line up correctly, so it is just eac3to misunderstanding how to demux the subs for the different playlists.

3. I don't know if this is a DVDFab Passkey issue or an issue with eac3to, but on ALL titles ripped with DVDFab Passkey 7.0.5.7 eac3to reports:
Skipping 467712 bytes to work around damaged source file...
Hint: You can use the option "-fix" to clean up the damage.
The format of the source file could not be detected.
If I run the -fix switch, the message gets reduced to:
The format of the source file could not be detected.
And eac3to will no longer do anything to the "fixed" files.

[Inspector.Gadget]

Arcsoft has just released TotalMedia Theatre 5 (http://www.arcsoft.com/EN-US/software_title.asp?ProductCode=TMT5P). I and I'm sure others would appreciate it if anyone purchasing this software could find out whether the latest revision of Arcsoft's DTS decoder will work with eac3to.

[mrr19121970]

Is this the right thread to report problems with eac3to? If so, I would like to report 3 new issues:

1. On the German release of Lethal Weapon 4, the audio is out of sync with the video by about 15-20 seconds using eac3to. If demuxed with TSMuxer everything lines up correctly.


I'm sure that there is a 10-15 second 'intro' without audio in a different M2TS file hooked on the front of the main feature MPLS.

This is a known issue, and there seems to be no way to fix it. You have to use the main movie M2TS as input rather than the MPLS.

[jeremy33]

madshi could you please put a link to my GUI on the first page. Thank you.

Hi,

I made a little GUI for eac3to. I made it because I use only some eac3to functions and I wanted a GUI with only the function I use.
So I kept only the "essentials" functions of eac3to.

With eac3to µGUI you can :

* Change the framerate of AC3/TrueHD/DTS/DTS HD MA/Flac (ex: 25.000 -> 23.976)
* Encode an AC3/TrueHD/DTS/DTS HD MA/Flac (also in mkv) into AC3/DTS/Flac
* Extract the DTS-Core contained in DTS HD MA


I'm french, but eac3to µGUI is available in english. On my site there is also a tuto about mpchc, ffdshow, reclock, ac3filter, madVR.

Download eac3to µGUI (http://www.homecinema-hd.com/eac3tougui_en.html)

[Uxorious]

I'm seeing a problem when using eac3to/ArcSoft to transcode DTS 6.1 to anything.
The sound terrible ... like a constant ringing distortion.

From comparisons with files trascoded using -libav, I think the problem is that eac3to is mistaking the ArcSoft data as 7.1 instead of 6.1.
If I compare the start time of peaks in the sound of files created with -libav with files using ArcSoft, the ArcSoft files are increasingly delayed by a factor if 1/7.

Anybody else seeing this?
Is this the proper forum for bug reports?

[Boulder]

Is there the same problem(s) reported somewhere in this thread regarding other versions than 1.1.0.0? I think they had something to do with 6.1 or 7.1 audio decoding.

[Uxorious]

Maybe I wasn't clear.
I already have ArcSoft installed, and eac3to reports that its working: ArcSoft DTS Decoder (1.1.0.7) works fine

Decoding DTS 5.1 works fine, and DTS-MA works too.
However, DTS 6.1 produces incorrect files.

Have you verified that 6.1 works with the older version you listed, or did you think I had nothing working at all?

[Boulder]

Maybe I wasn't clear.
I already have ArcSoft installed, and eac3to reports that its working: ArcSoft DTS Decoder (1.1.0.7) works fine

Decoding DTS 5.1 works fine, and DTS-MA works too.
However, DTS 6.1 produces incorrect files.

Have you verified that 6.1 works with the older version you listed, or did you think I had nothing working at all?

I was actually answering to a different post which was removed while I was writing..

But still, your problem might be that one. There are reports in this thread regarding decoding tracks with channel configuration 6.1 (or 7.1, unfortunately I don't remember) with newer versions than 1.1.0.0.

[dansrfe]

ArcSoft HD Decoder 1.1.0.8 is working great with eac3to from the TotalMedia Theatre 5 trial version ;)

Extracted from the installer of course. no way I was going to install it lol

[Thunderbolt8]

does the version from tmt5 still have that problem with 6.1 dtsma tracks?

[Uxorious]

does the version from tmt5 still have that problem with 6.1 dtsma tracks?

Interestingly, that package seems to be generally newer than the one I had.
eac3to reports the same version (1.1.0.8), but looking at the individual files, they generally have a (slightly) higher version number than the files I had.

The problem persists with this version. DTS 6.1 files (they are not DTS-MA actually) still don't produce correct output.

[b66pak]

downgrade to 1.1.0.0 to fix it...
_

[dansrfe]

ArcSoft HD Decoder eac3to pack v1.1.0.8 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/unwnh5)

Instructions are inside.

Note: Any pack over 1.1.0.0 does not decode 6.1 DTS files accurately.

[Uxorious]

downgrade to 1.1.0.0 to fix it...
_

Awesome, that one works.
(To save people some time, search for TMT3, or the TMT2 codec pack).

Still, it would be nice if eac3to detected the version and worked around the issue ... if possible.

Does the author read the forum (good luck keeping up!), or is there some other way to do bugreports?

[Inspector.Gadget]

ArcSoft HD Decoder 1.1.0.8 is working great with eac3to from the TotalMedia Theatre 5 trial version ;)

Extracted from the installer of course. no way I was going to install it lol

Excellent news. Did you merely need to replace the old registered dll with the newer? Did you have to replace any of the dependencies (checkactivate.dll, etc.)?

[Inspector.Gadget]

If anyone else wants to test the 6.1 DTS issue

And yes, the DTS ES 6.1 issue is still present with 1.1.0.8. What installer is 1.1.0.0 from anyway?

[dansrfe]

1.1.0.0 is TMT2 is believe. I just replaced all the dlls and ASAudioHD.ax from TMT5 and used the same checkactivate.dll which I believe is still trailing from TMT2.

[Uxorious]

And yes, the DTS ES 6.1 issue is still present with 1.1.0.8. What installer is 1.1.0.0 from anyway?

In case URL's are deleted, Google for "TMT3 ArcSoft s Codec Pack".
I used the filestube link.
Password is URL in the "File Description" field.

[dansrfe]

If someone can point me to the exact installer for 1.1.0.0 then I can make a collective pack out of it which everyone on the forum can easily find.

[Inspector.Gadget]

I can confirm that eac3to downmixes and decodes the DTS-ES 6.1 track from Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence to stereo FLAC correctly when using 1.1.0.0 (TMT2's final update, rev. 129) and incorrectly (ringing artifacts) when using 1.1.0.7 (my working copy of TMT3, but I've been lazy about updates) and 1.1.0.8 (from TMT5 installer).

[7ekno]

v1.1.0.0 comes from the update to v2 (http://www.arcsoft.com/downloads/digitaltheatre/arcsoft/totalmediatheatre_2.1.6.105_2.1.6.125_Update_ALL.exe) that is still on the Arcsoft file servers.

Incase the link didn't work, the full URL is here:
http://www.arcsoft.com/downloads/digitaltheatre/arcsoft/totalmediatheatre_2.1.6.105_2.1.6.125_Update_ALL.exe

7ek

[shogo_kawada]

Ok, I tried and here's some partial results (I had to go to work so I won't be able to continue until tomorrow)
Ok, here's the last update :). I finally succeeded doing what I was trying to, here's how:

. First used eac3to to identify how every playlist was chained together using the various evo segments

. Then demuxed video and audio with TsMuxer, manually inputting every single segment for the chosen playlist (no subs since TsMuxer didn't detect them)

. Came back to eac3to to extract subs and chapters

. Converted subs to srt via SupRip. I guess I could have converted them in idx/sub much faster, but since I needed to resync them (yes, on the next step) I went with srt, I wasn't sure if Subtitles Workshop works with idx/sub too

. Subs needed to be resynced with Subtitles Workshop after every "break point" (I don't know how it is called) in the former seamless branching playlist. I guess this makes sense, since they were extracted with eac3to which didn't correctly demux them in the first place.

. Finally, remuxed everything with MkvMerge

A final thought about what could have bothered eac3to so much to prevent it to correctly treat this disc. Forgive if I'm too verbose, but english isn't my language and I have some trouble expressing everything in a better form :p.

First, I understood why eac3to and every other program I tried to demux the playlists, listed twice as tracks as they should have (subs and audio). It's just that this particular seamless branching is a little more complicated than the usual one, where you have one of the following:

. A shorter and a longer version of the same movie. The short playlist just has to skip the segment of added content. Both use the same soundtrack, so every segment has it and plays it if part of the chosen playlist.

. Two version of the movie featuring alternative versions of some scenes. Robocop comes to my mind for the scene of the killing of Murphy. It's quite close to the first option, there will just be alternative segments for those scenes and the playlist will chose the right one to play. Again, every segment has just one version of the soundtrack.

. Here we have 3 versions. International and domestic fall in the first case scenario: domestic is just shorter than international, so the playlist just chose which segments must be removed from the former. But there's a third version, the 1992 director's cut, which is also shorter than the other two video-wise (first case scenario), but more importantly has a different soundtrack too, since it doesn't feature Harrison's Ford voice over. This of course reflects on the subs as well. So every segment in the disc has to have a soundtrack to be used in international/domestic playlists, and another one for the director's cut playlist.

BTW thanks to everyone who gave me advice, very much appreciated :thanks:

[dalex_257]

@madshi: Just wanted to report that eac3to has a problem demuxing subtitles from recent Avatar Extended edition bluray. That disk uses seamless branching if I extract subtitles for the extended edition they still have all the timings from the theatrical (shorter) version.

[dansrfe]

Instructions in zip:

ArcSoft HD Decoder pack eac3to v1.1.0.0 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/ief0t0)

Latest version: ArcSoft HD Decoder pack eac3to v1.1.0.8 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/unwnh5)

Note: All versions above v1.1.0.0 do not accurately decode 6.1 DTS tracks with eac3to.

[Thunderbolt8]

is there actually anything 1.1.0.8 can do better than 1.1.0.0? otherwise, no other version than 1.1.0.0 would be needed.

[Inspector.Gadget]

is there actually anything 1.1.0.8 can do better than 1.1.0.0? otherwise, no other version than 1.1.0.0 would be needed.

I too wonder about this.

[dansrfe]

I too wonder about this.

I second that wonder.