eac3to - audio conversion tool

[ACrowley]

Bad news about Nero 8

Nero 8 Filters/Decoder wont work anymore outside Showtime!

For a few weeks Madshi had Contact with a Nero Programer. The Guy told him that newer Nero Versions will not allow using any Decoder/Filter Outside Showtime!
Obviously ist Fact now with Nero 8

My HDDVD/BR Plugin works correct in Nero 8 Showtime. TrueHD,DD+ Plaback works. But not outside Showtime/Graphedit(recode.ex) or eac3to anymore .What a Crap!

So when when you want decode your Eac3/TrueHD Tracks ,dont install Nero 8 and stay with Nero7 until we have a Solution

[maya]

Bad news about Nero

Nero Filters/Decoder wont work anymore outside Showtime!

For a few weeks Madshi had Contact with a Nero Programer. The Guy told him that newer Nero Versions will not allow using any Decoder/Filter Outside Showtime!
Obviously ist Fact now with Nero 8

My HDDVD/BR Plugin works correct in Showtime. TrueHD,DD+ Plaback works. But not outside Showtime/Graphedit(recode.ex) or eac3to anymore .What a Crap!

So when when you want decode your Eac3/TrueHD Tracks ,dont install Nero 8 and stay with Nero7 until we have a Solution

Thanks for letting me know, I just updated my Nero 7 Ulra edition, but I will make sure I stay away from Nero 8.

[madshi]

All these files will be VC-1 since they are my HD DVD rips. But what tools do I need to get this to work, and how do I use them if not self-explanatory? I have no experience with command line prompts by the way, but if I knew what the prompts were supposed to be then I could certainly input them. Thanks in advance.
Install the Haali Media Splitter package. The tool "gdsmux" (shipping with that package) can directly remux EVO into MKV. Once you have your MKV, you can use the tool "mkvtoolnix" to add audio tracks to the MKV. Maybe you can already do that with gdsmux, I've not used that yet. mkvtoolnix has a nice GUI, though. However, muxing the EVO file to MKV should be done with gdsmux and not with mkvtoolnix.

[maya]

Install the Haali Media Splitter package. The tool "gdsmux" (shipping with that package) can directly remux EVO into MKV. Once you have your MKV, you can use the tool "mkvtoolnix" to add audio tracks to the MKV. Maybe you can already do that with gdsmux, I've not used that yet. mkvtoolnix has a nice GUI, though. However, muxing the EVO file to MKV should be done with gdsmux and not with mkvtoolnix.

Thanks, I will give this a shot and report back

[ACrowley]

Install the Haali Media Splitter package. The tool "gdsmux" (shipping with that package) can directly remux EVO into MKV. Once you have your MKV, you can use the tool "mkvtoolnix" to add audio tracks to the MKV. Maybe you can already do that with gdsmux, I've not used that yet. mkvtoolnix has a nice GUI, though. However, muxing the EVO file to MKV should be done with gdsmux and not with mkvtoolnix.

yes, but its important to remux the mkv from gdsmux with mkvmerge and 23.976 Timecode
Because remuxed VC1/Evo output mkv from gdsmux has 29.97 FPS (as like as HaaliMediaSplitter on VC1 what is wrong)!
You must remux VC1/Evo in any case with mkvmerge and 23.976 Timecode
So a VC1/Evo Remux "must" be done with gdsmux and mkvmerge.

[madshi]

yes, but its important to remux the mkv from gdsmux with mkvmerge and 23.976 Timecode
Because remuxed VC1/Evo output mkv from gdsmux has 29.97 FPS (as like as HaaliMediaSplitter on VC1 what is wrong)!
You must remux VC1/Evo in any case with mkvmerge and 23.976 Timecode
So a VC1/Evo Remux "must" be done with gdsmux and mkvmerge.
Yep, that's true, forgot about that one.

[TheSof]

yes, but its important to remux the mkv from gdsmux with mkvmerge and 23.976 Timecode
Because remuxed VC1/Evo output mkv from gdsmux has 29.97 FPS (as like as HaaliMediaSplitter on VC1 what is wrong)!
You must remux VC1/Evo in any case with mkvmerge and 23.976 Timecode
So a VC1/Evo Remux "must" be done with gdsmux and mkvmerge.

That's worked fine for VC1 (reclock reports 23.976) but with AVC I just can't get reclock to get the FPS. There's no stutter so I suppose it matters not.

[madshi]

That's worked fine for VC1 (reclock reports 23.976) but with AVC I just can't get reclock to get the FPS. There's no stutter so I suppose it matters not.
I can't even get AVC properly remuxed into MKV. gdsmux stalls for me. Demuxing and remuxing works but audio sync is totally lost that way for me. (All tested with Equilibrium). So currently I have my h264 HD DVD movies still in EVO files. But I think we're a bit out of topic now...

[TheSof]

I can't even get AVC properly remuxed into MKV. gdsmux stalls for me. Demuxing and remuxing works but audio sync is totally lost that way for me. (All tested with Equilibrium). So currently I have my h264 HD DVD movies still in EVO files. But I think we're a bit out of topic now...

Also sorry for going OT, but I had same problems with Equilibrium, and gave up. A real nightmare disc. However, had no problems with Blue Ray AVC "The Prestige", as long as I used TSRemux to extract the avc1 and then use mkvextract. All fine except no framerate in reclock.

It's a good job most HDDVDs are vc1 (shivers at the thought of Equilibrium).

Back on topic, can someone please confirm that using eac3to is the only way to bypass DRC with the nero filter? And that by using the nero filter in a directshow player (mpc, zoomplayer, theatretek etc.) will use DRC?

[madshi]

Back on topic, can someone please confirm that using eac3to is the only way to bypass DRC with the nero filter? And that by using the nero filter in a directshow player (mpc, zoomplayer, theatretek etc.) will use DRC?
Confirmed. Well, if there's enough interest, I could probably add a tweak to switch off DRC for use in 3rd party media players. This tweak would only work for E-AC3, though. It would *NOT* work for conventional AC3.

[TheSof]

Confirmed. Well, if there's enough interest, I could probably add a tweak to switch off DRC for use in 3rd party media players. This tweak would only work for E-AC3, though. It would *NOT* work for conventional AC3.

I would be very interested in such a tweak.

I'm now going down the analog out route and using nero in TT or MPC would be ideal.

[ACrowley]

I would be very interested in such a tweak.
I'm now going down the analog out route and using nero in TT or MPC would be ideal.

this DRC Tweak is only eac3to internal and not possible for Realtime Playback. You can only Remove Dialnorm from a DD+ File

For DShow Playback of DD+:
-only in Nero Showtime it self you can switch of DRC
-Nero Decoder in a Dshow Player like mpc/WMp/Zooomplayer applies DRC+DialNorm
-SonicAudioDecoder applies DRC+DolbyGain,Sonic System Settings have no Effect. in eac3to and Dshow Players

Conclusion:
-DD+ Playback with a Dshow Player like mpc isnt possible without DRC/Dialnorm
-To decode DD+ to wave/etc eac3to+ Nero is the one and only Way to avoid DRC/Dialonorm
-TrueHD Decoding is still with DialNorm

But ffmpeg EAC3 is a chance for realtime Playback without DRC/Dialnorm. Hopefully a proper ffdshow Build is coming soon

[tvjunky]

Does the AC3 file you get from eac3to play with the correct length? If so, it's very unprobable that eac3to is at guilt here. Maybe the aac 5.1 encoder generally doesn't like tracks longer than 124 minutes? I've no idea. Btw, what you're doing is not really optimal. You're decoding E-AC3 which is fine. Then you're reencoding to a lossy codec (AC3). Which is fine if AC3 is your final aim. But if you want to end up with another format you should skip the AC3 step to keep audio quality as high as possible. You should probably ask eac3to to give you a wav file and then convert that wav file to aac by using BeSweet.

Thanks for your reply, madshi (and for this great tool!)

I have tested it again on underworld yesterday. The wav-file and the ac3-file eac3to created worked fine in all players. But converting these files to aac still doesn't work with besweet. Yesterday i tried it with neroaacenc.exe and neroaacenc_sse2. Always the same result -> audio length is 124 minutes. Still confused about this problem ...

[madshi]

this DRC Tweak is only eac3to internal and not possible for Realtime Playback.
Please reread the part where TheSof quoted me! ;) In short: I could make the DRC tweak work for realtime playback, if there's enough interest.

[madshi]

I have tested it again on underworld yesterday. The wav-file and the ac3-file eac3to created worked fine in all players. But converting these files to aac still doesn't work with besweet. Yesterday i tried it with neroaacenc.exe and neroaacenc_sse2. Always the same result -> audio length is 124 minutes. Still confused about this problem ...
This sounds like a problem with the aac encoder or BeHappy to me. I don't think eac3to is at guilt. So that means there's nothing I can do to help you. Please ask for help in the BeHappy or aac thread.

[tebasuna51]

This sounds like a problem with the aac decoder or BeHappy to me. I don't think eac3to is at guilt. So that means there's nothing I can do to help you. Please ask for help in the BeHappy or aac thread.

I think tvjunky use BeSweet, not BeHappy.

With BeHappy you can open the ac3 with NicAc3Source() or the big_wav with RaWavSource() (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1037550#post1037550). And after encode with NeroAacEnc.

If you have the big_wav (>4GB) don't need BeHappy because can use a direct command line.

But, always remember use the parameter -ignorelength with NeroAacEnc (or -readtoeof 1 with Aften) when the wav file is > 4GB.

[madshi]

I think tvjunky use BeSweet, not BeHappy.
Ah yes, sorry.

[tvjunky]

THANKS, tebasuna51! "-ignorelength" was the missing link!!

[Nikos]

In short: I could make the DRC tweak work for realtime playback, if there's enough interest.

Yes, i want realtime playback without DRC and Dial. norm.

[ACrowley]

Please reread the part where TheSof quoted me! ;) In short: I could make the DRC tweak work for realtime playback, if there's enough interest.

Ah, sry....nice!

[VempX]

how to encode .pcm file to flac?
I use TsRemux demux a audio track from m2ts.I name it test.pcm.but when I convert the .pcm file to flac by eac3to I get a error flac.
I demux the pcm by dsmux,then I get a correct pcm.I could play it by foobar2000.But eac3to can't convert it.
who can help me?

[madshi]

how to encode .pcm file to flac?
I use TsRemux demux a audio track from m2ts.I name it test.pcm.but when I convert the .pcm file to flac by eac3to I get a error flac.
What do you mean with "error flac"? I need more details. Please give me the full eac3to + flac output text and a description of what is wrong. TsRemux + eac3to should work fine.

[VempX]

I uploaded the .pcm file and encoded .flac file.

you can download it in here

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=470C8DE25BDEDC4E

this is log
=================
E:\>"F:\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "E:\test.pcm" "E:\test.flac" -24 -big
RAW, 5.1 channels, 0:00:06, 24 bits, 48khz
Remapping channels. Please wait...
Converting the raw file to flac. Please wait...

Done.
=============================

[yonta]

F:\>eac3to\eac3to.exe Innocence.LPCM16.8ch.pcm innocence.eac3to.ac3 -8 -16 -down6 -640
RAW, 7.1 channels, 0:01:00, 16 bits, 48khz
Converting the raw file to wav. Please wait...
Converting the wav file to ac3. Please wait...

Aften: A/52 audio encoder
Version 0.0.8
(c) 2006-2007 Justin Ruggles, Prakash Punnoor, et al.

input format: RAW Signed 16-bit little-endian 48000 Hz stereo
output format: 48000 Hz stereo (2/0)

SIMD usage: MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3
Threads: 2

progress: 100% | q: 306.6 | bw: 60.0 | bitrate: 640.0 kbps

Done.

innocence.eac3to.ac3 is just noise and 4 times bigger than the correct 5.1ch file.


tried converting the eac3to-generated wav file to ac3 using aften.exe.
F:\>eac3to\aften\aften.exe Innocence.LPCM16.8ch.wav innocence.aften.ac3 -b 640

Aften: A/52 audio encoder
Version 0.0.8
(c) 2006-2007 Justin Ruggles, Prakash Punnoor, et al.

input format: WAVE Signed 16-bit little-endian 48000 Hz 5.1-channel
output format: 48000 Hz 3/2 + LFE

SIMD usage: MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3
Threads: 2

progress: 100% | q: 255.5 | bw: 57.9 | bitrate: 640.0 kbps

innocence.aften.ac3 seems OK

converting to the other formats than ac3 works correctly.

[madshi]

I uploaded the .pcm file and encoded .flac file.
That's one strange PCM file. Where is it from? From a Blu-Ray? Can you please demux it with xport and post here what xport reports over the LPCM attributes? It would be helpful if you could upload a sample of the m2ts file. From a quick check it could a 32bit mono PCM file. Never seen such a Blu-Ray PCM track yet!!

[madshi]

F:\>eac3to\eac3to.exe Innocence.LPCM16.8ch.pcm innocence.eac3to.ac3 -8 -16 -down6 -640
RAW, 7.1 channels, 0:01:00, 16 bits, 48khz
Converting the raw file to wav. Please wait...
Converting the wav file to ac3. Please wait...

Aften: A/52 audio encoder
Version 0.0.8
Could you please try the Aften build that is shipping with eac3to? Does that work? Also, which eac3to version are you using?

input format: RAW Signed 16-bit little-endian 48000 Hz stereo
Yeah, the "stereo" is the problem here.

Can you please rerun the same process and then press "Ctrl-C" while Aften is running? That should leave you with the wav file that eac3to was feeding to Aften. Can you please check the properties of the wav file? Is it properly flagged as a 6 channel wav file? Or is it incorrectly flagged as stereo?

[VempX]

er........I demux the pcm from a m2ts file by TsRemux.
This is the mpa(5.1 LPCM) which demuxed by xport.
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=5E1BDD3C0DAFE50F

[yonta]

Could you please try the Aften build that is shipping with eac3to? Does that work? Also, which eac3to version are you using?

I'm using v1.14 and using the aften.exe that comes with eac3to:
F:\>eac3to\eac3to.exe f:\Innocence.LPCM16.8ch.pcm e:\innocence.eac3to.aften.from.eac3to.ac3 -16 -down6 -640 -8
RAW, 7.1 channels, 0:01:00, 16 bits, 48khz
Converting the raw file to wav. Please wait...
Converting the wav file to ac3. Please wait...

Aften: A/52 audio encoder
Version SVN
(c) 2006-2007 Justin Ruggles, Prakash Punnoor, et al.

invalid RIFF id in wav header
invalid wav file: -b
"aften" reported error code "1". A valid *.wav file was created sucessfully, though.


Can you please rerun the same process and then press "Ctrl-C" while Aften is running? That should leave you with the wav file that eac3to was feeding to Aften. Can you please check the properties of the wav file? Is it properly flagged as a 6 channel wav file? Or is it incorrectly flagged as stereo?

mediainfo says;
Audio #0
Codec : PCM
Codec/Family : PCM
Codec/Info : Microsoft PCM
Bit rate : 4608 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits

This wav file plays OK.
I tried converting this wav file to ac3 directly using aften.exe and it worked.(second command line in the first post)
That's why this problem is weird.

[Rectal Prolapse]

In short: I could make the DRC tweak work for realtime playback, if there's enough interest.

madshi, that would be wonderful!

[Creator1]

Bad news about Nero 8

Nero 8 Filters/Decoder wont work anymore outside Showtime!

For a few weeks Madshi had Contact with a Nero Programer. The Guy told him that newer Nero Versions will not allow using any Decoder/Filter Outside Showtime!
Obviously ist Fact now with Nero 8

My HDDVD/BR Plugin works correct in Nero 8 Showtime. TrueHD,DD+ Plaback works. But not outside Showtime/Graphedit(recode.ex) or eac3to anymore .What a Crap!

So when when you want decode your Eac3/TrueHD Tracks ,dont install Nero 8 and stay with Nero7 until we have a Solution

Thanks for the tip!

A trick for people who really want Nero 8... you can install Nero 7 in a virtual PC image and upgrade to Nero 8 on your real Windows :)

[madshi]

er........I demux the pcm from a m2ts file by TsRemux.
This is the mpa(5.1 LPCM) which demuxed by xport.
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=5E1BDD3C0DAFE50F
Sorry, I wasn't clear. When you run "xport" it will tell you how many channels and which bitdepth etc the LPCM file has. Can you please post here what xport is posting to the screen?

[madshi]

invalid RIFF id in wav header
invalid wav file: -b
"aften" reported error code "1". A valid *.wav file was created sucessfully, though.
Can you please redownload eac3to just to make sure that the files are not corrupt? This sounds extremely strange to me. I mean Aften doesn't complain when you start it manually - but it does complain when being started by eac3to? That's weird.

Also, would it be possible for me to get a small sample of that problematic source file? Please before sending the sample check if the problem can be reproduced with the sample. Thanks!

[madshi]

I've a goody for you guys. Check out the last post of the delaycut thread:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=71545

I've updated delaycut to v1.3.0.0 with full E-AC3 support!!!

[yonta]

Can you please redownload eac3to just to make sure that the files are not corrupt? This sounds extremely strange to me. I mean Aften doesn't complain when you start it manually - but it does complain when being started by eac3to? That's weird.

Also, would it be possible for me to get a small sample of that problematic source file? Please before sending the sample check if the problem can be reproduced with the sample. Thanks!

redownloaded and binary-compared and the files are bit-identical.
I tested several times and this problem is reproduced everytime.
sample here (http://www.sendspace.com/file/pnfj69).

[VempX]

Sorry, I wasn't clear. When you run "xport" it will tell you how many channels and which bitdepth etc the LPCM file has. Can you please post here what xport is posting to the screen?

This is report of xport
=================================
D:\[DVDISO] AIR BDBOX VOL.1\BDMV\STREAM>xport -h 00003.m2ts 1 3 4
xport Transport Stream Demuxer 0.98
program = 1, video channel = 3, audio channel = 4
Program Number = 0 (0x0000), Program Map PID = 31 (0x001f)
Program Number = 1 (0x0001), Program Map PID = 256 (0x0100)
program descriptor = 0x05, 0x04, 0x48, 0x44, 0x4d, 0x56
program descriptor = 0x88, 0x04, 0x0f, 0xff, 0xff, 0xfe
ES descriptor for stream type 0x02 = 0x05, 0x08, 0x48, 0x44, 0x4d, 0x56, 0xff, 0
x02, 0x44, 0x3f
ES descriptor for stream type 0x81 = 0x05, 0x04, 0x41, 0x43, 0x2d, 0x33
ES descriptor for stream type 0x81 = 0x81, 0x04, 0x08, 0x3c, 0x0e, 0x00
ES descriptor for stream type 0x80 = 0x05, 0x08, 0x48, 0x44, 0x4d, 0x56, 0xff, 0
x80, 0x31, 0x7f
ES descriptor for stream type 0x81 = 0x05, 0x04, 0x41, 0x43, 0x2d, 0x33
ES descriptor for stream type 0x81 = 0x81, 0x04, 0x08, 0x3e, 0x04, 0x00
Audio PID = 4355 <0x1103>, type = 0x80
ES descriptor for stream type 0x80 = 0x05, 0x08, 0x48, 0x44, 0x4d, 0x56, 0xff, 0
x80, 0x61, 0x7f
LPCM Audio Mode = 3/2+lfe
LPCM Audio Bits/sample = 16
LPCM Audio Sample Rate = 48000
ts rate = unspecified
============================

[ACrowley]

I've a goody for you guys. Check out the last post of the delaycut thread:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=71545

I've updated delaycut to v1.3.0.0 with full E-AC3 support!!!

WOW THX..your my man :)

1. I can only load a EAC3 via drag&drop. The Open Browser recognize no ec3/eac3/ddp extension
2. i run 2 unclean EAC3 Track trough delaycut with "fix". One fixed EAC3 wirks perfect after fixing.
But the other fixed EAC3 cant be used aynmore, Nero and Sonic Decoder aborts Plaback

[madshi]

But the other fixed EAC3 cant be used aynmore, Nero and Sonic Decoder aborts Plaback
Try the different fix methods (silence, skip, ...). Do they all fail? How does the delaycut log look like? But this problem might be better handles in the delaycut thread?

[ACrowley]

Try the different fix methods (silence, skip, ...). Do they all fail? How does the delaycut log look like? But this problem might be better handles in the delaycut thread?

yes...will going into delaycut thread for it

As i say via PN.

After fix the problematic eac3 works fine in eac3to ,but Playback with Nero or SonicDecoder not..
I will test another fix Method
But can skip/silence cause async Problems when a few frames are filled with silence for exmaple ?

[madshi]

After fix the problematic eac3 works fine in eac3to ,but Playback with Nero or SonicDecoder not..
I will test another fix Method
But can skip/silence cause async Problems when a few frames are filled with silence for exmaple ?
"fix" is bad IMHO. "skip" has the biggest danger of asnyc problems. "silence" should be similar to "fix" in terms of audio sync. Even "fix" can result in audio sync problems.

[ACrowley]

"fix" is bad IMHO. "skip" has the biggest danger of asnyc problems. "silence" should be similar to "fix" in terms of audio sync. Even "fix" can result in audio sync problems.

Ok THX

The problematic EAC3 5.1 640Kbps is from Troy HDDVD.
It works with "Silence" :)

The Reencoded ac3 from "fix" Output has a loud cracking Noise, while the rencode from "silence" Output is clean.
I will better use "Silence" from now on for eac3 and ac3

[Jedi_Vader20]

Hiya guys.

I recently imported the HDDVD for Nine Inch Nails' Beside You In Time.

I ripped the audio from the disc, intending to convert it for use on my PSP. However, when I use eac3to to convert the EVO to a WAV, I get a file that looks the right size, but is only 9m35s long. Converting to FLAC/AC3/DTS gets me the right file size.

Am I doing something wrong?

[madshi]

Hiya guys.

I recently imported the HDDVD for Nine Inch Nails' Beside You In Time.

I ripped the audio from the disc, intending to convert it for use on my PSP. However, when I use eac3to to convert the EVO to a WAV, I get a file that looks the right size, but is only 9m35s long. Converting to FLAC/AC3/DTS gets me the right file size.

Am I doing something wrong?
WAV files cannot really handle files > 4GB. Some programs even stumble with WAV files over 2GB. Other programs can be configured to try to work around the WAV problem and they work alright with such big files.

[ACrowley]

Hiya guys.

I recently imported the HDDVD for Nine Inch Nails' Beside You In Time.

I ripped the audio from the disc, intending to convert it for use on my PSP. However, when I use eac3to to convert the EVO to a WAV, I get a file that looks the right size, but is only 9m35s long. Converting to FLAC/AC3/DTS gets me the right file size.

Am I doing something wrong?

On huge interleaved waves (+4gb )the Runtime is often wrong.
But the mono waves and encoded Output from it is fine, no Problem

Do you need AC3 for your PSPS ?

[tebasuna51]

The Reencoded ac3 from "fix" Output has a loud cracking Noise, while the rencode from "silence" Output is clean.
I will better use "Silence" from now on for eac3 and ac3

The "Silence" method is always the most sure (works always, maintain the sync) but can also have clicks when play.

The "Fix" method work fixing the CRC and leaving errors in data, most the times work better than "Silence" with inaudible effects, if errors are not important, but sometimes the errors are important and can crash the decoders or produce big cracking noise like you say.

[madshi]

The "Silence" method is always the most sure (works always, maintain the sync)
I think there are different kinds of corruption. The usual kind is probably that the length of the audio file is correct but that some of the data is corrupt. In that case "Silence" should maintain the sync. However, if the source container is corrupt (or if the demuxing routine has a bug) there could be additional invalid data in the source file. As a result the final repaired audio file could be too long. In that case "Skip" might maintain sync while "Silence" could lose sync.

[Jedi_Vader20]

On huge interleaved waves (+4gb )the Runtime is often wrong.
But the mono waves and encoded Output from it is fine, no Problem

Do you need AC3 for your PSPS ?

No, wanted to downmix it to two channel and encode to AAC.

When I go to try and convert, all programs only handle the first 9 minutes and 35 seconds.

How do I split into six mono wavs?

[honai]

Does DTS-core extraction from DTS-HD implicitly remove Dial.Norm. from the stream?

[madshi]

No, wanted to downmix it to two channel and encode to AAC.

When I go to try and convert, all programs only handle the first 9 minutes and 35 seconds.
Check the previous posts from tebasuna51. He explained how to call the AAC decoder to workaround this problem. There's a special parameter to make big WAV files work.

[madshi]

Does DTS-core extraction from DTS-HD implicitly remove Dial.Norm. from the stream?
Yes...

[Schotenhüter]

Getting "Dump" Instance failed

whats that:stupid: