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orbitlee
22nd August 2007, 04:02
Here is my DDCore executable.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/h1thbq

Usage: DDCore source.thd dest.ac3

It ONLY works on TrueHD from Blu-ray!

pyrates
22nd August 2007, 05:17
Here is my DDCore executable.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/h1thbq

Usage: DDCore source.thd dest.ac3

It ONLY works on TrueHD from Blu-ray!

You can test it using the 300 hd dvd, that has a truehd 8 channel track. And how is it just for truehd from blu-ray? Isn't truehd the same on both kinds of discs?

madshi
22nd August 2007, 08:38
Here is my DDCore executable.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/h1thbq

Usage: DDCore source.thd dest.ac3

It ONLY works on TrueHD from Blu-ray!
Thanks! So big-guy, does DDCore work better for you than eac3to with "Wings of Honnêamise"?

madshi
22nd August 2007, 09:42
how is it just for truehd from blu-ray? Isn't truehd the same on both kinds of discs?
No, it's different. HD DVD is straight TrueHD with no AC3 in it. In Blu-Ray TrueHD consists of an AC3 track with added TrueHD blocks. The end result is more or less the same. HD DVD needs a bit less space.

woah!
22nd August 2007, 10:46
i just tried ddcore on a thd track out of Vacancy BR disc and it works very well and fast :)

seemed to got the same result from eac3to aswell, if not faster heh, and correct times on both.

madshi
22nd August 2007, 11:29
i just tried ddcore on a thd track out of Vacancy BR disc and it works very well and fast :)

seemed to got the same result from eac3to aswell, if not faster heh, and correct times on both.
Thanks for testing! :)

woah!
22nd August 2007, 11:52
opps sorry that should be Ghostrider THD track not Vacancy .... still both give me correct files at about the same speed.

big-guy
22nd August 2007, 20:50
Thanks! So big-guy, does DDCore work better for you than eac3to with "Wings of Honnêamise"?

Sorry, I've already deleted the source file. And just used the DVD track ><. Will test it the next time I rip a BD...

:thanks: for the hard work everybody :D.

andybno1
26th August 2007, 17:58
Don't know if this has been resolved somewhere in the thread but I had this problem and resolved it so I'm posting how I fixed it.

When trying to decode anything to wav (ddp or mlp) I got this:

E-AC3, 5.1 channels, 2:12:32, 640kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
Remove Dialog Normalization information. Please wait...
Muxing eac3 file to raw. Please wait...
Disabling DRC for Nero E-AC3 decoding...
The file size of the raw file doesn't seem to fit.

Finally I discovered the actual problem was the dtsac3source-full.ax file which was corrupted or something. I had the same exact version on another computer which I had downloaded a couple of weeks before. That one was working, I knew, so I unregistered the old one (don't know if this is necessary)...

regsvr32 /u C:\WINDOWS\system32\dtsac3source-full.ax

...got the new one, and it worked.

If your raw file is 0 bytes and then eac3to crashes, chances are this is your problem.

Get some new dtsac3source from some different mirror or download site, register it and try again. That worked for me.

The version I have is 1.0.0.1, BTW.

Hope this helps.

where can I get the 1.0.0.1 version from? I am getting the above problem, dont know if it helps but I get this after getting the above message: http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2788/crashay9.jpg

madshi
27th August 2007, 21:41
eac3to v1.14 released

http://madshi.net/eac3to.zip

(1) DTS dialog normalization can be removed now
(2) DTS core can be extracted from DTS-HD track now

Usage:
eac3to source.dts dest.dts
eac3to can detect if a DTS-HD stream is clean or not. If it's clean, the DTS core extraction should be perfect with no audio sync issues and no crackling sound etc. If the DTS-HD stream is not clean, eac3to will complain, but it will still do the extraction. In this case you need to check if audio is in sync throughout the whole movie.

I've tested the new DTS core extraction on all my HD DVD and Blu-Ray movies with such tracks. The tracks were demuxed by EvoDemux (for HD DVDs) and xport (for Blu-Rays). eac3to reported all tracks to be clean - except the "Perfume" tracks. This problem has been reported before. For whatever reason the "Perfume" DTS-HD tracks demuxed by EvoDemux are corrupt. Well, eac3to detects that, which is good. So, if eac3to doesn't complain you can feel safe that everything is fine.

One important thing to note: The current version of the "DTS/AC3/DD+" filter plays all DTS(-HD) streams from Blu-Ray and HD DVD incorrectly. Basically as soon as you seek, audio sync is lost. I've fixed the problem in the filter and uploaded a new version here:

http://madshi.net/dtsac3source.zip

This is not a unicode build, though, so it might not work with DTS/AC3/DD+ files in folders with "strange" file names. I hope we'll get a unicode build from orbitlee or Casimir later.

Another way to work around the DTS/AC3/DD+ filter problem is to mux the HD DVD and Blu-Ray DTS (core) tracks into a container, e.g. MKV or TS. That way the sync problems with seeking should also disappear.

andybno1
28th August 2007, 06:38
Thanks for the new eac3to and the upload of dtsacesource but could anyone tell me why I am getting this:

C:\audio>eac3to audio-in.eac3 audio-out.ac3 -640
E-AC3, 5.1 channels, 1:00:10, 1536kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
Remove Dialog Normalization information. Please wait...
Muxing eac3 file to raw. Please wait...
Disabling DRC for Nero E-AC3 decoding...
The file size of the raw file doesn't seem to fit.
The expected file size for 16 bit is 1.93 GB.
The expected file size for 24 bit is 2.90 GB.
The real file size is 0 Bytes.

madshi
28th August 2007, 07:23
Thanks for the new eac3to and the upload of dtsacesource but could anyone tell me why I am getting this:
Probably you need the Nero HD DVD / Blu-Ray plugin.

ACrowley
28th August 2007, 09:38
THX Madshi ! Yure the Man :)

I had the same Problems with Perfume HDDVD DTS HD..
But its clean when the DTS HD is demuxed with SonicHDDemuxer in Graphedit :)

Your Source Filter Fix works good on dtscore Tracks , nice !

greets

PS ,maybe The Keymaker can update his gui with new Tab for TrueHD/DTS HD extraction etc

honai
28th August 2007, 10:22
Thanks for the new version, madshi.

One suggestion: Could you implement the padding fix that BeSliced performs on DTS tracks produced by some versions of Surcode? That way eac3to would be your one-stop solution for converting audio from HD discs. ;)

madshi
28th August 2007, 10:35
One suggestion: Could you implement the padding fix that BeSliced performs on DTS tracks produced by some versions of Surcode? That way eac3to would be your one-stop solution for converting audio from HD discs. ;)
I think eac3to v1.14 should already do that just fine. It will complain that the track is not clean, but you can ignore that warning in this case. To be sure I'd suggest that you test run the same Surcode DTS track through both BeSliced and eac3to. The end result should be 100% bit identical.

Btw, when using eac3to to automate Surcode the DTS tracks are already padding free.

madshi
28th August 2007, 10:41
P.S: Wait, I'm wrong. eac3to v1.14 will not do that. I'll add that to the next build.

andybno1
28th August 2007, 18:58
Probably you need the Nero HD DVD / Blu-Ray plugin.

is this a seperate download to the actual installer of nero ultra? cause I chose typical install with ultra serial. Oh yeh I have version 7.1.0

Nikos
28th August 2007, 21:02
is this a seperate download to the actual installer of nero ultra? cause I chose typical install with ultra serial. Oh yeh I have version 7.1.0
You need the separate HD DVD/Blu-ray serial number!!!

andybno1
28th August 2007, 23:03
ah right lol

madshi
29th August 2007, 08:02
Correct, it's not a separate install. You don't have to install anything. But you need to register a separate license key. When I had bought the plugin I was waiting for a download link for the plugin installer. Only after a while I understood that I don't need to install anything, but that registering the license key was enough to make it work... :)

Xorcist
29th August 2007, 19:20
Thanks for this great software!

I have used it to convert E-AC3 track on Heroes HD-DVD to AC3, but for one of the episodes (Episode 5) eac3to reports that the E-AC3 is not clean and tells me to use delaycut to fix it. However delaycut doesn't seem to support E-AC3.. Or am I mistaken?

EVOs has been demuxed using EVOdemux 0.627 b7.

The_Keymaker
30th August 2007, 06:06
@Acrowley,

I don't think madshi added any new OPTIONS in the latest version of eac3to. Madshi's updates in v.1.14 are automatically invoked based upon the filename extension(s).

If there are new options I will try and update EAC3toGUI. Are there any new command line options I am not aware of?

Regards,
The_Keymaker

andybno1
30th August 2007, 06:29
Correct, it's not a separate install. You don't have to install anything. But you need to register a separate license key. When I had bought the plugin I was waiting for a download link for the plugin installer. Only after a while I understood that I don't need to install anything, but that registering the license key was enough to make it work... :)

where do you put the serial for the blu-ray/hd dvd plugin?

SvT
30th August 2007, 08:30
where do you put the serial for the blu-ray/hd dvd plugin?

Once you've installed Nero you open Nero ProductSetup and select Licences panel. Click add and insert your serial to get the plugin to work.

Goodluck !

madshi
30th August 2007, 08:33
Thanks for this great software!

I have used it to convert E-AC3 track on Heroes HD-DVD to AC3, but for one of the episodes (Episode 5) eac3to reports that the E-AC3 is not clean and tells me to use delaycut to fix it. However delaycut doesn't seem to support E-AC3.. Or am I mistaken?

EVOs has been demuxed using EVOdemux 0.627 b7.
Ehm yes, you're right. delaycut (sadly) doesn't support E-AC3 yet. What I can offer to you is a switch to either ignore dirty E-AC3 tracks (the E-AC3 audio decoder might eventually stumble then - but probably not) or to remove any dirty audio frames (which may affect audio sync). What do you think?

Xorcist
30th August 2007, 09:55
Ehm yes, you're right. delaycut (sadly) doesn't support E-AC3 yet. What I can offer to you is a switch to either ignore dirty E-AC3 tracks (the E-AC3 audio decoder might eventually stumble then - but probably not) or to remove any dirty audio frames (which may affect audio sync). What do you think?

That would be really cool. It would give the user 3 options with dirty E-AC3 tracks; plain old error like today, possibly a good AC3 track if the decoder is ok with errors or an AC3 track that is out of sync depending on the number of dirty audio frames. If eac3to could print out the number of frames (and possibly timecode) removed in the last case it would help as well, but the most important thing is to have the switch you talk about.

I take it you are talking about possible improvements in new versions of eac3to?

madshi
30th August 2007, 10:19
I take it you are talking about possible improvements in new versions of eac3to?
Yes...

Xorcist
30th August 2007, 12:10
Ok, just wanted to make sure you weren't talking of any current options that I somehow hadn't noticed :)

madshi
30th August 2007, 12:42
I don't think madshi added any new OPTIONS in the latest version of eac3to. Madshi's updates in v.1.14 are automatically invoked based upon the filename extension(s).
That's correct. It's just that now "dts", "dtshd" and "ac3" are accepted as input formats, if appropriate output formats are used. Also "eac3" etc is accepted as output format, if "eac3" (or similar) is also the input extension.

sl1pkn07
30th August 2007, 13:00
exist eac3to tool for linux (native)?

madshi
30th August 2007, 13:11
exist eac3to tool for linux (native)?
Nope.

sl1pkn07
30th August 2007, 17:15
is possible port your program to linux?

andybno1
30th August 2007, 18:36
Once you've installed Nero you open Nero ProductSetup and select Licences panel. Click add and insert your serial to get the plugin to work.

Goodluck !

cheers for the hint ;)

EDIT: small problem I entered my serial and in product setup I get ? where the serial should be and eacto still not processing the file grrrr I dont wanna try sonic cause I could never get the delay synced in the muxed file

madshi
30th August 2007, 22:18
is possible port your program to linux?
Not really because big parts of it are relying on Windows DirectShow filters.

madshi
30th August 2007, 22:20
EDIT: small problem I entered my serial and in product setup I get ? where the serial should be and eacto still not processing the file grrrr I dont wanna try sonic cause I could never get the delay synced in the muxed file
If you have properly bought the plugin you can contact Nero customer support about why the serial number doesn't work in your case... ;)

andybno1
30th August 2007, 23:02
If you have properly bought the plugin you can contact Nero customer support about why the serial number doesn't work in your case... ;)

all I have to say is BUGGER lol

dvd-freak
31st August 2007, 10:46
If you have properly bought the plugin you can contact Nero customer support about why the serial number doesn't work in your case... ;)

I think, I would REALLY LIKE TO BE THERE when this call is made.

lol :rolleyes:




@mashi:
Any news on the Dolby TrueHD dialnorm issue? DRC can be disabled, right?

madshi
31st August 2007, 13:17
Any news on the Dolby TrueHD dialnorm issue? DRC can be disabled, right?
DRC is luckily disabled by default in the current Nero TrueHD decoder version. I've not found a way to disable Dialnorm yet. If only I had some kind of TrueHD specification/documentation!

andybno1
31st August 2007, 21:28
ok I took the plundge and purchased the plugin all registered now I am at a new fence with the followin error

C:\audio>eac3to audio-in.eac3 audio-out.ac3 -640
E-AC3, 5.1 channels, 1:00:10, 1536kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
Remove Dialog Normalization information. Please wait...
Muxing eac3 file to raw. Please wait...
Disabling DRC for Nero E-AC3 decoding...
Audio Decoder output was 24 bit this time.
Converting the raw file to wav. Please wait...
Converting the wav file to ac3. Please wait...
Starting "aften" failed. A valid *.wav file was created successfully, though.

madshi
31st August 2007, 21:39
ok I took the plundge and purchased the plugin all registered now I am at a new fence with the followin error
Well, you're nearly there. The Nero E-AC3 decoder evidently works fine now for you. But for whatever reason aften didn't get started correctly. Do you have a subfolder named "Aften" in the eac3to folder? And is there an "aften.exe" in that "Aften" subfolder?

andybno1
31st August 2007, 23:05
I downloaded the last zip file and put all exe files into the main folder......... is this wrong?

sportcenter
1st September 2007, 05:01
so not possible to encode anything above 640 ac3?...

ACrowley
1st September 2007, 13:40
so not possible to encode anything above 640 ac3?...

No
maximum is 640kbps

madshi
1st September 2007, 22:28
I downloaded the last zip file and put all exe files into the main folder......... is this wrong?
Yes, that is wrong. Just unzip and leave everything as it is.

Xorcist
2nd September 2007, 21:08
I earlier mentioned having problems with dirty EAC3 tracks on some Heroes episodes. Turns out my harddrive were having some problems and the rip actually had some messed up files. I re-ripped and eac3to worked perfectly :)

madshi
2nd September 2007, 21:45
I earlier mentioned having problems with dirty EAC3 tracks on some Heroes episodes. Turns out my harddrive were having some problems and the rip actually had some messed up files. I re-ripped and eac3to worked perfectly :)
That's good to know. So eac3to told you the files were messed up... :)

sportcenter
3rd September 2007, 00:44
No
maximum is 640kbps

so for doing a lossless 1.5mbps .wma audio track i would need to use .wavs, then vegas 7 or equivalent audio encoder to give me the .wma?

Exiton
3rd September 2007, 02:46
Question for anyone who knows. I've rebuilt an .EVO containing a single TrueHD track. When I use EAC3TO, the raw file it generates is 0kb. I can do conversions of eac3 -> ac3 all day long no problem. Anyone know the possible problem leading to the raw output failing?

EDIT: I've got the following in my system because I can see the last three in graphedit. The nero filter works because the standard EAC3 -> AC3 conversions work.

(1) Nero HD-DVD/Blu-Ray plugin
(2) "Nero Splitter"
(3) "Nero Audio Decoder 2"
(4) "Dump" filter

EDIT #2: I think it may be a bad source file. I'm doing some testing and will post back. I could duplicate the error on another machine so I think it's the source.

sportcenter
3rd September 2007, 03:30
Question for anyone who knows. I've rebuilt an .EVO containing a single TrueHD track. When I use EAC3TO, the raw file it generates is 0kb. I can do conversions of eac3 -> ac3 all day long no problem. Anyone know the possible problem leading to the raw output failing?

EDIT: I've got the following in my system because I can see the last three in graphedit. The nero filter works because the standard EAC3 -> AC3 conversions work.

(1) Nero HD-DVD/Blu-Ray plugin
(2) "Nero Splitter"
(3) "Nero Audio Decoder 2"
(4) "Dump" filter

what is the error message say?....are you putting

eac3to.exe audio.eac3 audio.wav -nero

thats the only way you will get a RAW file that stays...otherwise it creates the RAW filein the begining and then converts to .ac3 or whatever...

ACrowley
3rd September 2007, 12:38
what is the error message say?....are you putting

eac3to.exe audio.eac3 audio.wav -nero

thats the only way you will get a RAW file that stays...otherwise it creates the RAW filein the begining and then converts to .ac3 or whatever...


You can set the output Extension to .raw when you want a .raw or to wav (5.1 wave) or .wavs (mono waves).

Or to ac3 /dts
So youve a lot of options :)

so for doing a lossless 1.5mbps .wma audio track i would need to use .wavs, then vegas 7 or equivalent audio encoder to give me the .wma?
When you need 6 mono wave use .wavs output extension.
Then feed your prefered encoder to encode to whatever, for example to WMA10pro or WMA 9.2 lossless.
But note that WMA lossless wont play smooth with WVC1 VBR Peak Video on your Xbox360.