Media Player Classic supports Matroska v2, *.mp4, *.mov, and MPEG-4 Timed Text [Archive] - Page 15

Egh

10th March 2006, 07:15

As a side note, I believe in Haali :D Haali let a miracle happen already in that "Haali's Video Renderer". Plus, Haali is the one who improved MatroskaSplitter (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72086) first so that you could embed font files. It was 2 years ago, around March 2004. Needless to say, Haali's splitter was the first that hacked MP4 too. Talk about another genius.

Haali is superior (c).

And yet he is still. Let it beknown to you, that Haali splitter is the only mighty one which actually does multi-segments in one file (binary linking), prev/next segments and Ordeal Chapters. The keyword is "the only" :)

Neither gabest, nor splitters on *nix systems or whatever do that :approved: And, let it be known to you as well, that releases with Ordeal Chapters and binary linking keep popping out :) I'm doing one, for instance, right at the moment (contains both binary linking and ordeal chapters). And Haali splitter is the ONLY way to get all from my release, with any other splitter one won't get full experience (in worst case other splitters might even crash :P).

And, as I said, others do it as well (A-L did one and others follow ^^). So gabest have to catch up to Haali again.

foxyshadis

10th March 2006, 09:26

I'm having a bit of trouble where MPC doesn't always come to the front when I open a new video through explorer, though it does start playing behind it. Is this a known issue?

B.F.

10th March 2006, 10:37

I notice that bug in the last build.

neo squidward

10th March 2006, 11:41

vio_man

10th March 2006, 14:05

I have a small problem with latest MPC regarding DVD subtiltes...
Every time I play a DVD I have to enable the subtitles from Navigate -> Subtitle Language... How can I make MPC remember this setting and always show DVD subtitles?

That's because most DVD titles don't have subtitles on by default. It's possible to force the subtitles using the IFOEdit. Anyway, MPC could have an option to force subtitles always on.

awx

11th March 2006, 00:17

MPC 6.4.8.9 (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303&release_id=400410) with no release notes.

roxfan

11th March 2006, 02:22

It includes FLV splitter now, so you can play FLV1-encoded FLVs (decoded by ffdshow) and MP3 sound. I.e. about any youtube or google video clip.

Liisachan

11th March 2006, 04:30

so... something like this?
[NEW] FLVSplitter: plays Flash Video (.flv). FLV1-encoded FLVs (decoded by ffdshow) and MP3 sound supported
[NEW] MatroskaSplitter: WavPack in MKV/MKA supported
[NEW] AudioSwitcher: Normalize - Regain volume (?)
[FIX] MatroskaSplitter: Crash bug
[FIX] MP4Splitter: non-ANSI ("Unicode") char in Chapter was b0rked, thx to nero :P

Anything else?

Liisachan

11th March 2006, 04:52

Here's celtic_druid's.
mplayerc2006.03.11.2kxp.7z (http://ffdshow.faireal.net/mirror/Media%20Player%20Classic/mplayerc2006.03.11.2kxp.7z)

SeeMoreDigital

11th March 2006, 13:37

I've just tried Gabest's 6.4.8.9 build with some MPEG-4 AVC within .TS streams.

Support is much improved when playing "Tandberg" generated .TS encodes with CoreAVC and FFdshow's DSdec filters.... We can see something now :D

However playback is stuttering alot and seeking does not work.

Sadly, Celtic_Druid's (much smaller) 6.4.8.9 build did not appear to offer any improvement over the very last 6.4.8.8 builds

Cheers

SeeMoreDigital

11th March 2006, 13:52

Would it possible to add "frame numbering" to the time code bar in MediaPlayer Classic?

Something like this: -

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/7695/mpcfeaturerequest3oj.jpg

Cheers

Avish

11th March 2006, 15:04

Sadly, Celtic_Druid's (much smaller) 6.4.8.9 build did not appear to offer any improvement over the very last 6.4.8.8 builds
Why Celtic's build is smaller than Gabest's? Its almost 1mb smaller!! Gabest's is 5.42mb and Celtic's is 4.52mb! Whats the difference between them?

Egh

11th March 2006, 16:03

Would it possible to add "frame numbering" to the time code bar in MediaPlayer Classic?

Wow, you're a genius! :goodpost:

That thing would be helpful, and even more would be additional optional display in FrameNos (i.e. from 0 frame to ... onwards). Quite often I need that during testing and encoding.

Why Celtic's build is smaller than Gabest's? Its almost 1mb smaller!! Gabest's is 5.42mb and Celtic's is 4.52mb! Whats the difference between them?

That question been bugging me for some time already :) But never bothered to ask. In theory, there're three explanations:
a) .EXE compressor
b) different builder
c) different building options

foxyshadis

11th March 2006, 23:06

I was kind of put off by the way information is presented, because let's face it, WMP 6.4 was not a paragon of great design. :p Time and the time bar really seem like they should be together, with a more advanced time display in the info panel. And a lot of players these days have different fullscreen and normal zoom controls, too. I was hoping a skin would let me fix that but I can't find any. ^^;

LeMoi

12th March 2006, 00:04

Would it possible to add "frame numbering" to the time code bar in MediaPlayer Classic?

Something like this: -

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/7695/mpcfeaturerequest3oj.jpg

Cheers
"Seconds" info are updated every seconds, i think it'd take more CPU to show frame number (every second ? every frame ?)

Liisachan

12th March 2006, 02:16

"Seconds" info are updated every seconds, i think it'd take more CPU to show frame number (every second ? every frame ?)
Updating a short text 100 times / sec would be almost nothing for today's CPU, if not drawn via gdi.

fyi ffdshow already can show the frame number for debugging purpose: Check 'OSD' and 'Current frame'...

EDIT
Another thing...
Hit Ctrl+6 and you can see timestamps down to milliseconds
http://ffdshow.faireal.net/mpc_c6.jpe

Egh

12th March 2006, 13:23

fyi ffdshow already can show the frame number for debugging purpose: Check 'OSD' and 'Current frame'...

EDIT
Another thing...
Hit Ctrl+6 and you can see timestamps down to milliseconds
http://ffdshow.faireal.net/mpc_c6.jpe

Hmm, never knew that :) As for OSD, I knew, but it's not good option in many cases (for screenshots e.g.), sometimes you don't see OSD at all (e.g. if you playing hi-rez video in a smaller window etc).

SeeMoreDigital

12th March 2006, 13:56

Another thing...
Hit Ctrl+6 and you can see timestamps down to milliseconds
http://ffdshow.faireal.net/mpc_c6.jpeIs this with or without FFdshow filters?

I don't seem to be able to make this work....

Personally, I would prefer to see "frame numbers" at the end of the time-code instead of "milli-seconds"....

But here's another feature to consider... Would it be possible to add "frame type recognition" (ie: I, P, B frame etc)?

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1920/mpcframetype2ga.png

Cheers

Liisachan

12th March 2006, 14:33

Is this with or without FFdshow filters? It's MPC's subresync, working when subbed.

Haali

12th March 2006, 16:29

ZonePage

12th March 2006, 19:06

I've read till my eyes are crossed. I've installed MPC, and while everything seems to be working, I cannot play some MP4 files. QuickTime would play them, but then I installed QuickTime Alternative (which uninstalled QT) and they will not play. Some posts say that ffdshow must be installed. Other posts say that ffdshow is not a good thing to load. What is the shortest path to playing MP4 files with MPC?

SeeMoreDigital

12th March 2006, 19:08

I cannot play some MP4 files that I downloaded from the Internet.You are out of luck...

We don't help people on this forum who openly break the forum rules!

Cheers

ZonePage

12th March 2006, 19:10

SeeMoreDigital

12th March 2006, 19:11

Normally DShow does not keep track of frame numbers, it operates with timestamps only. So all you can do is pretend the video is cfr and divide timestamp by AvgTimePerFrame.....Bummer...

Does this mean my "frame number" feature request would be totally impossible to implement accurately?

SeeMoreDigital

12th March 2006, 19:14

What forum rules did I break? Downloading MP4 files from the Internet? They are interviews of Hugh Laurie made available for public consumption by a university. Where is the violation? Please be specific.You should know what and where the forum rules are!

Have a look at the top of this forum web page!

ZonePage

12th March 2006, 19:18

So you're not going to backup your accusation. The thread is about MPC and mp4, according to the title. My question is about MPC and mp4. If you don't want to provide any assistance, so be it.

bond

12th March 2006, 19:32

guys cool down plz
smd is right asking for the rules to be followed but you also made clear what content you downloaded, so its ok

about your question, quicktime is a totally limited player and therefore i wont use it for anything (qt alternative is the same as qt)
that said you need a mp4 splitter (mpc has one inbuilt, you need to enable it in the settings) and a decoder for your streams. ffdshow is definitely an option, you need to enable in it what streamtypes it should decode depending on whats in the mp4

SeeMoreDigital

12th March 2006, 19:36

So you're not going to backup your accusation. The thread is about MPC and mp4, according to the title. My question is about MPC and mp4. If you don't want to provide any assistance, so be it.Okay read rule 6 and this announcement (http://forum.doom9.org/announcement.php?f=6) in the Newbie section of the forum!

That's as much help as you are going to get at the present time...

ZonePage

12th March 2006, 19:41

you need a mp4 splitter (mpc has one inbuilt, you need to enable it in the settings)That did it. Problem solved. Thanks!

falcon2000eg

12th March 2006, 20:08

Okay read rule 6 and this announcement (http://forum.doom9.org/announcement.php?f=6) in the Newbie section of the forum!

That's as much help as you are going to get at the present time...
BTW rhis announcement (I know it is important) should be in every section for a period of time, i only saw it yesterday by chance.

Ice =A=

12th March 2006, 20:42

@SeeMoreDigital:
Your post is really one of the most counterproductive and impertinent ones I've ever seen (and I saw some from you in other threads allready, since apparently the word "download" triggers that reaction from you)! I can well imagine what you would have been in a police state...
Besides, you even were completely wrong with your accusation!

Sorry, I just had to say that! And I know that I broke some forum rules, and therefore I apologize!

P.S.: Wouldn't a forum rule against overhasty and unhelpful accusations be a good idea?

Egh

13th March 2006, 00:07

Normally DShow does not keep track of frame numbers, it operates with timestamps only. So all you can do is pretend the video is cfr and divide timestamp by AvgTimePerFrame. This is not exact because AvgTimePerFrame is not a rational number. Also it is not always available. On the other hand, it's possible to count frames since the last seek in decoders and renderers, but there is no standard API to access this info.

Aha, so that's the long-awaited explanation why MPC is bad with frame numbers. So it doesn't recognize VFR at all, right? Makes it rather inaccurate for screenshots and stuff then.

Liisachan

13th March 2006, 00:55

On the other hand, it's possible to count frames since the last seek in decoders and renderers, but there is no standard API to access this info.
@Egh: If it's really needed maybe Gabest would come up with another "messy but elegant huck" :D maybe. maybe not, the question is, are frame numbers that important? Yes they are, but for MPC users, I mean. I'm feeling that even <- (one frame back) doesn't work properly sometimes on MPC (because of DS limitations). MPC is a player and that frame number thing is, more like a feature of a video editor that opens the video file not via DS.

bond

13th March 2006, 12:25

Ice =A=, no need to attack SMD because he worried about the forum rules. they are there for a reason and the one he feared to be borken is one of the most important ones...

Liisachan

13th March 2006, 12:40

again by the courtesy of celtic_druid:
mplayerc2006.03.13.2kxp.7z (http://ffdshow.faireal.net/mirror/Media%20Player%20Classic/mplayerc2006.03.13.2kxp.7z)

Liisachan

13th March 2006, 14:29

About Statistics (Ctrl + 4):
bitrate (current/average) of each track is shown for .ogm/mkv/ogg/mp4/rmvb/dsm but not for .avi. Why not for .avi? Is this by design i.e some kind of limitation for .avi format?

SeeMoreDigital

13th March 2006, 15:04

Just tried Celtic_Druid's latest build with the following, SkyHD Italia [1920x1088].ts (30.1MB) sample.

If I use FFdshow's AVC decoder filter, after several seconds of waiting, the video and audio springs into action. However, playback is still very fragmented....

If I use CoreAVC's decoder filter, I don't see anything. The player justs sits there with a full open window

By-the-way, this is what the sample I'm talking about looks like (just in-case some of you guys might have the same): -

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/8264/skyhditalia1920x1088tssample6t.th.jpg (http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=skyhditalia1920x1088tssample6t.jpg)

Cheers

roytam1

13th March 2006, 16:09

bug report:
If I select a DMO Object from [Play] -> [Filters], it freezed.

Egh

13th March 2006, 22:09

@Egh: If it's really needed maybe Gabest would come up with another "messy but elegant huck" :D maybe. maybe not, the question is, are frame numbers that important? Yes they are, but for MPC users, I mean. I'm feeling that even <- (one frame back) doesn't work properly sometimes on MPC (because of DS limitations). MPC is a player and that frame number thing is, more like a feature of a video editor that opens the video file not via DS.

Does "frame back" ever works properly? :)

You're true that exact framenumbers, go to frame and other similar things are mostly for filtering/encoding, not for watching. So that's why those things are not implemented yet i guess ;)

falcon2000eg

14th March 2006, 01:48

a new feature
http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/4930/clipboard33zb.th.png (http://img463.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clipboard33zb.png)

Egh

14th March 2006, 04:17

a new feature

Not in the very last build though. It's been there for a while already. Nice thing to check if something goes wrong btw. But most users wont' have any idea what it is for o.O

clsid

14th March 2006, 09:09

There is a small issue with large playlists (m3u, pls). When opening such a playlist in MPC it takes a while before playback starts. Judging from the amount of hdd activity, MPC is gathering some info from each file in the list. This should be improved. Winamp for example only reads ID3 tags for those few songs that are actually visible in the playlist. And if a file doesn't exist, it just skips to the next one. It doesn't check at the beginning if all files exist. MPC might be doing that at the beginning, but I am not sure.

And hopefully .asx support can be fixed too.

Liisachan

14th March 2006, 11:44

AVI bitrate is shown when running on XP, but not on 2000.

Windows XP
http://ffdshow.faireal.net/xp.jpg

Windows 2000
http://ffdshow.faireal.net/2000.jpg

celtic_druid

14th March 2006, 12:11

Windows 2000:
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4831/mpc6tt.png

SeeMoreDigital

14th March 2006, 12:13

Jeez... I must have missed a few meetings!

How do you access this information?

Cheers

Yong

14th March 2006, 12:20

Ctrl + 4? :)

Liisachan

14th March 2006, 12:26

After some trying...
it works, if the Internal AVI splitter is enabled.

EDIT
it works even if the internal AVI splitter is disabled,
if I block "AVI Splitter" (and then apparently Haali's splitter is loaded instead).

Something ("AVI Splitter") and MPC's stats don't mix well for some reason.

SeeMoreDigital

14th March 2006, 13:08

Ctrl + 4? :)Thanks... I feel such a plonker for not knowing this :o

I seen the files frame numbers are displayed and counted-down, along with the FPS speed, in here too: -

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/4258/mpcctrl40bk.jpg

Cheers