CCE One-Click Software Beta

[jdobbs]

Okay, all, just an update before I retire for the night. I worked on several things tonight, here's a summary:

- Implemented support for "Open" and "Save" of project files
- Implemented support for Nic's QuEnc (FFMPEG Library) program
- Fixed the bug that allows the program to bomb out when no source is selected
- Added the VTS number to the status screen output while encoding segments
- Spent considerable time working on TMAPTI table updates -- but it's not quite finished

I plan to finish TMAPTI and also add code to computer different bitrates to each segment based upon the original DVD before posting the next version (v0.17). I also plan to add code for allowing batch processing of project files (doing multiple DVDs). So expect the new version some time on Saturday.

Also, I'm going to move the most recent update so it is always available on the first page of this thread.

Goodnight.

[quantum]

Goodnight. Nooooooo... stay up. Keep working!!! :-)

[jdobbs]

@$&#^%$#!!

Does anyone know how to add an attachment to an existing post (after you've deleted the old attachment)?

Anyhow, here's v0.16 so it is at least available...


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[r6d2]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Does anyone know how to add an attachment to an existing post (after you've deleted the old attachment)?You may find it easier to post a link on the first post of the thread instead of referencing specific pages with every version.

BTW, congrats on your tool and efforts to support it and to improve it. You are a real artist.

[Oldeman]

Hey,
I just tried DVD-RB v.16 on Matchstick men using DVDStripper to remove extras and Rejig (one button) to encode and then Menuedit to delete extra buttons. Looks pretty good. I'm impressed with how easy this was.... Especially after reading all these posts. Apperently Rejig is less complicated by far than CCE.
All I did was put the MPEG2Decd3g.dll in the same folder with DVD-RB.
Nothing with AVI2whatever.

Haven't watched the whole movie yet, but the menus and sound appear to be flaeless.
Congrats....

[SLA]

I don't know if it was mentioned above but:
The maximum Bitrate in Rebuilder.ecl is MUCH too high.
I encoded a movie with 2*448 kbps AC3 + 1*224 kbps AC3, the maximum Bitrate was 9000 kbps. Summed up this would be a maximum of 10120 kbps, but if remember correct the max was something about 9800, wasn't it?

[Si]

Re Half-D1
Don't want to start a non-topic divergennce but rather stop one :)

I think there is always confusion with this phrase.

I think it means 352x480 (NTSC) or 352x576(PAL) which is fully DVD compliant.

Others think it means 352x240 or 252x288 which I believe isn't fully DVD compliant. (maybe this should be called quarter-D1 ;)

regards
Simon
PS Keep up the excellent work

[RB]

About the problems with still image cells people were reporting: I for one had no problems with a cell that contained just a single still image (I-Frame), CCE 2.67.00.23/Mpeg2Dec3dg encoded this one-framer just fine and DVD-RB muxed it back with no issues.

Where things might start to fail is when there is a cell that contains a series of still images (I I I I ...), like slide or still show (anyway that's what Scenarist calls it). In this case CCE will just see a very short video clip and will encode it as (I P B B ...). Now I can imagine that this causes DVD-RB to fail because it expects to mux back an (I I I I...) sequence. If my assumption is correct, then the ECL would have to be modified to set the GOP N/M parameters to 1/1, forcing CCE to produce only I-Frames. Or as jdobbs has already noted, maybe better to just use the original stream.

[JvD]

I think I saw somebody posting a solution to the "Runtime Error 9"-problem but cant find it. What was it? Did yot leave all stills or what? How did you do it? What do I need do edit? The rebuild process ended up with 3.5GB of files, ~0.8 missing.
Im backing up Fellinis ROMA (with removed extras).

[mcbelly]

OK, I got a problem (the usual error "9") on X-Files S4 Disc 4 AND 5 (but IC8 wouldn´t do them either...), but that might be the DVD´s, so no real trouble there...

After so many tech related suggestions, here´s one for userfriendliness (is that a real word ?;)): How about a "continue" button ? Like DVD2SVCD has, after a failed encode, just ´load an .ini file and continue.

mcbelly

[jdobbs]

DVD-RB give me the error 9, subscript out of range in shangaii nights. Can you tell me where it happened in the process? Was it during scanning, encoding, or rebuilding? I think this has been typically reported during rebuilding. This is one of those problems I really need to get to the bottom of.

[jdobbs]

@SLA
I don't know if it was mentioned above but:
The maximum Bitrate in Rebuilder.ecl is MUCH too high.
I encoded a movie with 2*448 kbps AC3 + 1*224 kbps AC3, the maximum Bitrate was 9000 kbps. Summed up this would be a maximum of 10120 kbps, but if remember correct the max was something about 9800, wasn't it?

The maximum video bitrate for a DVD is 9.8Mbs. The combined bitrate (video, audio, and subpictures) is 10.08Mbs. I can't remember, though, whether that means only the active channels (one video, one audio, etc.) or total on the disc... here's what the DVD FAQ at DVD Demystified says:

Maximum video bit rate is 9.8 Mbps. The "average" video bit rate is around 4 Mbps but depends entirely on the length, quality, amount of audio, etc. This is a 31:1 reduction from uncompressed 124 Mbps video source (or a 25:1 reduction from 100 Mbps film source). Raw channel data is read off the disc at a constant 26.16 Mbps. After 8/16 demodulation it's down to 13.08 Mbps. After error correction the user data stream goes into the track buffer at a constant 11.08 Mbps. The track buffer feeds system stream data out at a variable rate of up to 10.08 Mbps. After system overhead, the maximum rate of combined elementary streams (audio + video + subpicture) is 10.08. MPEG-1 video rate is limited to 1.856 Mbps with a typical rate of 1.15 Mbps.

[acido]

Maybe i've missed something or did something wrong but :
- Ripped U2 Go Home (PAL) DVD with DVDDecrypter (all files/File mode)
- Removed unwated titlesets/menu with dvdstripper
- Removed unneeded audio streams with ifoedit
- Obtained a 5,52GB dir with working menus/chapters
- Run DVD-RB 0.16 - eclcce 1.7b - CCE-SP 2.67.00.23 trial
- After "one click" mode run, got
- Final dir 3,70GB in size, and menus not in synch with chapters

Do i have to rip in IFO mode and movie only to use DVD-RB?
Can someone summarize the process for newbies?

TIA, Alfredo

[tf]

@acido:

Well your method seems pretty much like mine. Here's what I do:

- Rip using DVDStripper (ie. DVDDecrypter) and remove all the clips I don't want. Check the output with PowerDVD, if ok, next step.

- Remove layer break and unwanted audio with DVDShrink. Yeah I know, this can be done with IfoEdit, but I got plenty of hd space. Again I check the output with PowerDVD, if ok, next step.

- Start DVD ReBuilder and let it do its magic. Using AviSynth 2.54, CCE SP 2.50, EclCCE 1.7 and MPEG2Dec3dg.dll, to be precise. Check the output with PowerDVD. If ok, next step.

- Deactivate/delete/hide buttons to deleted stuff with MenuEdit.

- Burn with Nero.

-tf

[trebor]

I also get error 9, subscript out of range right at the beginning when i press prepare :(
Did another dvd yesterday that worked just fine however ;)

[geffroman]

I am exhausted just catching up on the reading of this thread... I can't thank you enough for this program...

Who hasn't always dreamed of a CCE based "One Click" tool?

When you get closer to first official release I will make sure to post your program as the Premiere solution to have on our site where we will also be promoting heavily that a responsible user is a DONATING user to make sure you are rewarded for the insane amount of work you are doing.

Thanks again... Jeff

[jdobbs]

I also get error 9, subscript out of range right at the beginning when i press prepare I'm going to go back through my code and find every reference to every array and capture every possible place that a subscript might be out of range... then at least I'll know what the hell I'm doing wrong and why it only happens on certain DVDs.

[acido]

Originally posted by acido
Maybe i've missed something or did something wrong but :
- Ripped U2 Go Home (PAL) DVD with DVDDecrypter (all files/File mode)
- Removed unwated titlesets/menu with dvdstripper
- Removed unneeded audio streams with ifoedit
- Obtained a 5,52GB dir with working menus/chapters
- Run DVD-RB 0.16 - eclcce 1.7b - CCE-SP 2.67.00.23 trial
- After "one click" mode run, got
- Final dir 3,70GB in size, and menus not in synch with chapters

TIA, Alfredo

In the meanwhile i compressed the above 5,52GB dir with DVDShrink 3.17 to compare with DVD-RB results ...
.
Differences between DVD-RB and DVDShrink 3.17 :
.
1. DvDShrink created perfect 4,35GB DVD
2. DVD-RB created a undersized (3,70GB) DVD with wrong menu/chapters associations
:confused:

[RB]

acido, how about trying it without messing with the DVD layout first? There's always a chance one of the tools you use causes inconsistencies.

[jbenj01]

Originally posted by Oldeman
Hey,
I just tried DVD-RB v.16 on Matchstick men using DVDStripper to remove extras and Rejig (one button) to encode and then Menuedit to delete extra buttons. Looks pretty good. I'm impressed with how easy this was....

Wait.. how did you manage to do that?? Isn't Matchstick Men a multi-PGC DVD? Thought DVD-RB does not yet support..?

I keep getting the "..Error 380.." using CCE 2.66. I searched thru the thread and tried applying 'fixes', i.e., changing MPEG2 ES output to .m2v in CCE2.66, but to no avail. I've noticed so far in this thread that there are 2 such types of errors--a "380" and a "9". Has anyone pin-pointed causes? Thanks!

DVD-RB will be a gem once de-bugged.. Thank you jdobbs, sir..

[massive88]

@jdobbs

I used DVD-RB once so far with some really promising results. The only issue that I had was that the dvd I was using was Sports Night, which has hybrid frames. Doing the three step method I prepared the avs files. However to get rid of those pesky interlacing problems I had to go and edit all the avs scripts myself to add in decomb and tecline lines.

My only suggestion to improve the functionality of DVD-RB would be to possibly have a place where you could automatically insert lines into the avs scripts should you know you want them. On the whole though it wasnt that big of a deal to put the lines in myself, and the dvd looks far better than when done with transcoding.

Thanks a ton for making this great peice of software!

[FMalibu]

Originally posted by jdobbs
@FMalibu

Okay, Matrix is a good extreme so you convinced me. I'm a little surprised, though. These are average bitrates, right?

To be honest, I'm a little surprised too, as I expected more extreme bitrate variations. :) But yeah these are bitrate averages over each cell.

@jptheripper

I just let dvd decrypter demux the video and split it by cell id, then I viewed each cell in bitrate viewer.

And about the maximum bitrate issue, I still think "DVD compliant" will set the maximum bitrate to 9800, at least that's what I interpret from the manual. What procedure are you using to multiplex jdobbs, entirely your own? Any idea how it would handle VBV buffer overflows, would it report them while muxing?

-- FMalibu

[lab-one]

@jbenj01


I had a frustrating time with the 380 run time error. Thanks to a couple of other posts here I finally straightened out my set-up and have had 2 successful runs thus far. Set up is as follows:

Taken from huesage post on page 9:

instalation guide...
OK guys and gals,
Since a lot of people are having similar problems to the ones I was having at the start, I have decided to write a little instalation guide.

Here is a list of things you need to download:

1- Avisynth 2.54 (from doom9 software download page):
http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Support...viSynth_254.exe

2- DVD2AVI dg (from doom9 software download page):
http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Decoders/decodefix100.zip

3- EclCCE 1.7b (from doom9 forum, link in one of the posts):
http://home.t-online.de/home/340044300675/eclcce.zip
you only need this if you are using CCE SP 2.50, you do NOT need it for 2.6x and above.

4- DVD Rebuilder 0.16 or latest version available (from doom9 forum, link in this thread):
http://forum.doom9.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=459634

5- CCE SP 2.50 or CCE SP 2.66 (from doom9 software download page, trial versions):
http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Encoders/MPEG2/cspte250.exe
http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Encoder...2/ccespt266.exe

Here is the instalation process:

1- install Avisynth 2.54

2- extract all the contents of DVD2AVI dg (decodefix100.zip) directly into the Avisynth 2.54 "plugins" folder
ie: C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins

3- install the version of CCE you want to work with. If you installed CCE SP 2.50 go to step 4, if not, go directly to step 5.

4- extract "eclcce.zip", run it and point it too your CCE SP 2.50 executable
ie: C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\Cinema Craft Encoder SP\cctsp.exe

5- extract DVD Rebuilder 0.16 (dvd-rbv016.zip) or later
- run it
- click on "options" menu then "setup"
- here you have to point the APROPRIATE box to your EclCCE.exe or cctsp.exe depending on the version of CCE used
ie: If using CCE SP 2.50: C:\Program Files\eclcce\EclCCE.exe (in the "Path to CCE Pro 2.50" box)
ie: If using CCE SP 2.6x and above C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\cctsp.exe (in the "Path to CCE Pro (New))

6- make sure you also go to the "Options" menu, "CCE Options" and check the correct version of CCE you are using ;-)

7- if any of your source video is interlaced, make sure to go to "Options", "AVS Options" and check "ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)".

I hope that this has been helpful to some of you and that it does not cause any trouble because of links or space it has taken on the thread. This is only meant to be a help to Jdobbs who has worked so hard and has accomplished so much.

NOTE: Please do not take this guide word for word, it is only meant to help you, send you in the right direction and save you some time. you might have to do things a little different than it is mentioned in here. GOOD LUCK !!


stolen from pace on page 11:

You can download this plugin at http://www.avisynth.org/warpenterprises -> scroll down to Mpeg2Dec3, and download the version for AVISynth 2.5



All credit to both of these posts. Once I followed these and changed the CCE MPEG 2 extension to m2v I had everything working. As pace noted above, make sure you download the correct Mpeg2Dec3.dll from the link provided. There are 2 options, get the one for v2.5. I also removed the MPEG2Dec3dg.dll from the plug-ins directory. Not sure if it needs to be removed but it works without it being there.


Hope this helps. Thanks to everyone who has posted fixes for this as I was getting a bit pissed lastnight.

[Oldeman]

DVD-RB First Try

Hey,
I just tried DVD-RB v.16 on Matchstick men using DVDStripper to remove extras and Rejig (one button) to encode and then Menuedit to delete extra buttons. Looks pretty good. I'm impressed with how easy this was.... Especially after reading all these posts. Apperently Rejig is less complicated by far than CCE.
All I did was put the MPEG2Decd3g.dll in the same folder with DVD-RB.
Nothing with AVI2whatever.

Haven't watched the whole movie yet, but the menus and sound appear to be flaeless.
Congrats....

Follow-up...
The remade VIDEO-TS played flawless via IFOEdit. However, after I burned it it would not play in any of my players or PowerDVD. Navigation errors. GetVTS Sectors reported an error in the VMGMAT(?? I think) and DVDShrink reported an error in VOB5.
This may be the Rejig error someone reported earlier.

In any case this tool is very easy easy to use and I'm excited about its promise of better quality backups. :rolleyes:

[StifflerStealth]

Originally posted by RB
About the problems with still image cells people were reporting: I for one had no problems with a cell that contained just a single still image (I-Frame), CCE 2.67.00.23/Mpeg2Dec3dg encoded this one-framer just fine and DVD-RB muxed it back with no issues.

Where things might start to fail is when there is a cell that contains a series of still images (I I I I ...), like slide or still show (anyway that's what Scenarist calls it). In this case CCE will just see a very short video clip and will encode it as (I P B B ...). Now I can imagine that this causes DVD-RB to fail because it expects to mux back an (I I I I...) sequence. If my assumption is correct, then the ECL would have to be modified to set the GOP N/M parameters to 1/1, forcing CCE to produce only I-Frames. Or as jdobbs has already noted, maybe better to just use the original stream.

@RB: I take a page from the "Big 3" Methodology. I just remove any cell from the big ecl file that is under a certain size, usually a meg or so. I do this since some older versions have issuses with very small files.

@jdobbs: It might be easier to have two list. One for all the files that can be encoded, ie the big ecl file, and another list that contain cells that are under a certain size. Then when all the encoding is done, goto the second list and extract the cells that are not to be encoded. This should be an easier way than figuring out how the I, B, and P Frames should be for each cell. IMHO

Stiff

[StifflerStealth]

@jdobbs: A page back I told you I was going to try to do a DVD that broke DVD Maeestro, Scenarist, and even IC8. It just finished muxing, and DVD-RB handled it perfectly. The Hidden Cells or in there. I Know this because there are missing sectors, and the layout is exact. The audio and subs are in sync. Congrats! Your program did what several thousand dollar software could not.

Link to the topic discussing the craziness of this DVD: Click here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72210).

Stiff

[Raymongo]

Originally posted by huesage
@daxab:

I only get that error when using CCE SP 2.67, when using CCE SP 2.50 I get a finalized backup. What version of CCE are you using daxab?

Well thats is wat i tried but it still gives me the 380 error! I don't get it.


EDIT:

The problem was that all files were named *.mpv instead of *.m2v as Hypo stated. Now the rebuilding phase went flawless.

[hypo20]

@jdobbs

Ok. I have really BIIIIIIG problem.

Finally I was testing burned DVD's (with ImgTool Burn) and:

- in menu, everything is ok

- BUT!!!! when I play the movie, no sound at all!!!!!

What can be wrong??? In PC everything is OK.

[redfive19]

@jdobbs
A few pages back (damn this thread is huge) I asked about why I had jumpy frames when I play it back on my TV. You said to turn down the Film Threshold in options. It's at 70% now, what should I change it to?

TIA
-redfive19

[jdobbs]

@redfive19,

I'd just try other settings (start with 50%) and see how they look.

[NobbyNobbs]

@jdobbs

I have tried ReBuilder a few times with "Frank Herbert´s Dune" the mini-series, disc 1.

It works fine with ReJig, but chokes when it tries to rebuild VTS_04_1.VOB, and give the usual error (with a 9 somwhere in it).

With CCE it works, if I change the .mpv extensions to .m2v, but chokes at the same place.

Looking at the original in IfoEdit, I see that VTS_04 contains several PGC´s, and all but the first are collections of stills, that you are supposed to move between using the arrow buttons on your remote.

I have only tried it with this disc, as I believe that the best way to test a beta software for problems, is to try it on something that gives it problems :D

Hope this helps you in finding a solution to some of the problems at this early stage of a already quite good program :)

[StifflerStealth]

@NobbyNobbs: Just replace the cells that are stills with originals demuxed from DVD Decrypter. I mentioned a couple pages back how you can handle the stills. I have not recieved that error since I started that. Hope that helps.

Stiff

[jdobbs]

Pretty soon, maybe in the next version, I am going to have the program do that for you.

[NobbyNobbs]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Pretty soon, maybe in the next version, I am going to have the program do that for you.

That was the reason I posted about it, I already have a backup of this disc, but had the files on one of my HD´s, that is why I used this for my experimenting with your app. :)

[jdobbs]

With CCE it works, if I change the .mpv extensions to .m2v, but chokes the same placeI'm trying to write down all the bugs -- but I don't get this one. When does CCE create a file with a .MPV extension? What version. The reason I ask is that I insert the name of the output file (vid_file0= and vid_file1=) in the .ECL file.

[NobbyNobbs]

I was using CCE SP Trial 2.66.01.07, run trough EclCCE.

Rebuilder seemed to do alright with VTS_01, but when it tried to do VTS_02 (The main movie) it gave the error containing the number 380
( It is to late for me to think clearly, so can not remember the exact error, but it have been mentioned several times before)

When I saw one of the earlier replies, I looked at the files, and the extension was .mpv ;)

So I just marked all files in Total Commander, and changed all instances of .mpv to .m2v.

After the change, the rebuild worked, until it met the VOB, containing the stills gallery.

(I have seen a post, explaining how to change the output, either in EclCCe, or CCE, but the thread have become so large that I have trouble finding it :(

@StifflerStealth
I have seen your workaround, but although using workarounds might help if you want to back up the DVD, I thought it was better to report the problems, as I believe the reason for this thread is to help Jdobbs find possible bugs in the program.:)

[Paced]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I'm trying to write down all the bugs -- but I don't get this one. When does CCE create a file with a .MPV extension? What version. The reason I ask is that I insert the name of the output file (vid_file0= and vid_file1=) in the .ECL file.

As far as I know, all CCE versions create .MPV extensions by default - but I myself don't get this problem 'everyone else' is experiencing (using CCE v2.50).

[paulers]

Does anyone have a good method for stripping out extras using this wonderful method? I have been waiting a long time for this application. Excellent job Jdobbs!

[jdobbs]

As far as I know, all CCE versions create .MPV extensions by default - but I myself don't get this problem 'everyone else' is experiencing (using CCE v2.50). Yep. You can change the default under OPTIONS/EXTENSIONS -- but I thought that since I set it myself in the .ECL file it should have been overridden...

[NobbyNobbs]

@paulers

Use DVDStripper, IfoEdit (2Cools guides helps a lot), Titleset Blanker, or some other program to remove the extras before you use DVD Rebuilder

[paulers]

thanks for the fast response! Ill give it a shot

[StifflerStealth]

Well, after playing around with the settings in the program, and not manually editing the files, CCE gave me V01000100001001.mpv.m2v files. I must be special since I have two extentions. :D Now I need to remember how I did this. I use CCE 2.67.00.23 SP.

Stiff

[joaoccc]

Hello

i'm getting the error 9 again in dvd the deer hunter.When in try to make vts 2 ( the main vts )is give the error 9.

Regards

[robot1]

@joaoccc
just done for testing the same movie (pal R2) and it worked, using cce 2.67.00.23 and Eclcce.
DVD size: 4,32.
FF and Rewind doesn't work (probably for the NAV Pointers?) and DVDShrink also finds errors in the VOB

[SLA]

Hm...If i use PowerDVD to play the authored DVD it works quite fine. But if I put the slider to the last quarter of the movie it simply doesn't begin to play. The slider just jumps back. So I think there is something wrong? Does anyone know how to fix this problem? Thx!

[robot1]

Using ifoedit, open the ifo of your film.
Press Vob Extras, and in options check only
Correct Vob unit
Correct orifinal ifo files
Leave default selections in VOB EXPERT, and uncheck Autocopy Menu-files to destination.
Press ok, and after his work save the ifo.
This worked for me (PAL film).

[SLA]

Originally posted by robot1
Using ifoedit, open the ifo of your film.
Press Vob Extras, and in options check only
Correct Vob unit
Correct orifinal ifo files
Leave default selections in VOB EXPERT, and uncheck Autocopy Menu-files to destination.
Press ok, and after his work save the ifo.
This worked for me (PAL film).

Yeah thank you robot1 :D :D it really works (on my Pal DVDs) :):) *happy* But I think this issue should be fixed in an upcoming Version.

EDIT: omg it doesn't work, i played the wrong dvd so i thought it would work :(

[Abnormal1]

Hi,
I have just been testing ReBuilder and noticed that I am getting .mpv from CCE aswell.
Anyway what I was wondering is could you not just use .mpv instead of .m2v. This would then remove this small bug.

P.S. Great Program

Thanks
Abnormal1

[jdobbs]

Well, sorta. Then it would just start the bug for everyone who uses .M2V -- I'm still trying to figure out why it overrides the filenames I've put in the .ECL... Are you using the trial version?

[Abnormal1]

Hi,
I was just thinking that it could be because it is the trial version. I can get it to use .m2v by changing the extensions option but then this might cause problems for the big3 method as i think that uses .mpv extension.

edit: Turns out that the extension is set in the registry. But I just can not see why CCE ignores the File in the ECL and uses the extension in the registry.

Abnormal