CCE One-Click Software Beta

[unplugged]

Do you think to implement (soon) VIDEO_TS and menu videos re-encoding?

[Joergen]

I think multiangle should come before menu encoding in jdobbs todo-list. imho leaving the menus alone (only stripping some parts when applicable) gives a backup a better feel of quality instead of compressing the menu and having it all blocky (as it usually would be).

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Joergen
I think multiangle should come before menu encoding in jdobbs todo-list. imho leaving the menus alone (only stripping some parts when applicable) gives a backup a better feel of quality instead of compressing the menu and having it all blocky (as it usually would be). BOV and Multiangle are the most important projects right now (after bugs) -- they've both slipped because of the dreaded stuttering, error '5', and error '9' -- right now I'm working the #0003 and #0004 errors that I've captured. I think I've found and fixed the #0003. I've known for some time what was causing the #0004 but it takes some time to implement the fix.

[Joergen]

Good to hear you're crushing those pesty roaches.

I've only seen one BOV title since the Matrix that I know of, Lion King 3: Hakuna Matata. It has a movie-length mickey-mouse-hunt thingie that would be a good test disc I think.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Joergen
Good to hear you're crushing those pesty roaches.

I've only seen one BOV title since the Matrix that I know of, Lion King 3: Hakuna Matata. It has a movie-length mickey-mouse-hunt thingie that would be a good test disc I think. They exist quite frequently, but I've masked most of them by doing a one-for-one copy of VTSs that are smaller than 50MB. The one that is really common is the audio channel and screen adjustments that come on a lot of discs.

ADDED: BTW, after I get BOV working, menus should be fairly easy. But since I don't like ugly menus, I hesitate to encode them. The exception that keeps me thinking about it are those long space-taking menus that some have reported.

[Joergen]

Originally posted by jdobbs

ADDED: BTW, after I get BOV working, menus should be fairly easy. But since I don't like ugly menus, I hesitate to encode them. The exception that keeps me thinking about it are those long space-taking menus that some have reported.

Yep in R2 discs there's often two or three languages in the menus so its 3X the space. But I'd say most often menus are around 200-300MB and you can strip them down with other tools.

I was going to backup a disc just now but it has multi-angles. Multiangle for dvd-rb is my #1 want at the moment :)

But for now I will reauthor it in shrink and let rb do the encoding. I lose the menu but I gain in quality and ease of use (default audio and sub selected via shrink) so its a different kind of good.

NEW: I noticed the disc only has angles in an extra that is a meager 120MB in size. If I blank it with titlesetblanker dvd-rb still complains about the angles. Would there be a way to kill the angle detection of dvd-rb or fool it? I checked the other thread about this but I dont have dvdremake yet.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Joergen
Yep in R2 discs there's often two or three languages in the menus so its 3X the space. But I'd say most often menus are around 200-300MB and you can strip them down with other tools.

I was going to backup a disc just now but it has multi-angles. Multiangle for dvd-rb is my #1 want at the moment :)

But for now I will reauthor it in shrink and let rb do the encoding. I lose the menu but I gain in quality and ease of use (default audio and sub selected via shrink) so its a different kind of good.

NEW: I noticed the disc only has angles in an extra that is a meager 120MB in size. If I blank it with titlesetblanker dvd-rb still complains about the angles. Would there be a way to kill the angle detection of dvd-rb or fool it? I checked the other thread about this but I dont have dvdremake yet. You'd have to change the IFO. Or you could remove the VTS from the directory, set the DVD-RB output size to max-120MB, copy the VTS back into the final output directory, followed by an IFOEDIT "Get VTS Sectors".

[airplanedude]

Hi all:

Firstly, thanks very much to jdobbs for taking all the effort to provide such software.
Seems I do experience the same problem as cdburner previously did.
Having also studied the CCE threads, I did not find something which could have gone wrong; I followed all the recommendations as good as I could.
When encoding the DVD "Pulp Fiction" (German version, RC2) CCE runs into a freeze always at the same position of the file (Up to the second three times so far). During this freeze, the programm seems to be stuck in some kind of loop keeping processor load up while not making any progress. Happens for both one-click and three-click. There is no failure message coming up.

Here's what I got...

Pentium IV-M 1.8 GHz 512 MB RAM WinXP (and yes, it is rockstable, at least with other demanding apps :) )
DVD-R 0.41 and 0.40 (happens for both)
CCE SP 2.66.01.07 Trial
eclCCE 1.81

Here's the portion of the rebuilder.ecl file for which CCE freezes, in case it is useful:
title=V01002800001029
aud_out=0
vaf_file=D:\CONVERT\D2VAVS\V01002800001029.vaf
aud_file=D:\CONVERT\D2VAVS\V01002800001029.mpa
file_focused=0
packet_size=2048
width=720
height=576
frame_rate_idx=3
cbr_brate=6000
vbr_brate_avg=723
vbr_brate_min=0
vbr_brate_max=9000
seq_endcode=0
dvd=1
half_width=0
half_height=0
lum_level=0
aspect_ratio=3
gop_m=3
gop_nm=4
gop_hdr=12
seq_hdr=1
all_closed_gop=0
fix_gop_length=0
samples_per_sec=44100
stereo=2
brate_idx=7
crc=1
progressive=0
alternate_scan=1
intra_dc_prec=2
aud_mode=0
tc_ref_frm=0
drop_frame=0
fix_vbv_delay=0
letter_box=0
pulldown_detect=0
offset_line=0
create_new_vaf=1
credits_tweak=0
credits_start=0x00000
credits_brate=1000
h_filter=0
h_filter_idx=8
dither=0
dither_max=8
qmat_idx=0
quality_prec=24
vid_file0=D:\CONVERT\D2VAVS\V01002800001029.m2v
vid_file1=D:\CONVERT\D2VAVS\V01002800001029.m2v
vid_out=1
vaf_out=1
video_type=4
timecode=0x0000000
opv_q_factor=20
opv_brate_min=0
opv_brate_max=9000
vbr_bias=10
vbr_pass=2
use_filter=0
filter_val=6
non_linear=1
top_first=0
mpeg1=0
mpeg1_cps=1

If someone could give me a hint what I am doing wrong I would highly appreciate it; I don't know what to to any further and I've already worn out the search button.
I'll now give CCE 2.50 a try.
Again, thanks for all your time.

Cheers,
airplanedude


[EDIT]
Darn, I just saw that I inadvertently replied to the wrong thread confused by the Abundance of windows I had opened. :(
In order not to do a cross posting I will leave it as-is for now. Sorry.

[Joergen]

Originally posted by jdobbs
You'd have to change the IFO. Or you could remove the VTS from the directory, set the DVD-RB output size to max-120MB, copy the VTS back into the final output directory, followed by an IFOEDIT "Get VTS Sectors".

Ah clever stuff! So DVD-RB wont mind a referenced VTS not being there?
Also I think the angles of a title are mentioned in the video_ts.ifo so this might involve some more trickery?

I tried to do a similar stunt to SW Ep1 R2 bonus disc but it gives the runtime error 9 as soon as you hit prepare (with or without editing the titles) so I cant do that disc yet. But I this other disc with the 120MB angle-extra that I can test with.

EDIT: I just stripped angles from the main movie of SW Ep1 R2 without editing the VIDEO_TS.IFO and it dvd-rb doesnt seem to mind :) (preparing now)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Joergen
Ah clever stuff! So DVD-RB wont mind a referenced VTS not being there?
Also I think the angles of a title are mentioned in the video_ts.ifo so this might involve some more trickery?

I tried to do a similar stunt to SW Ep1 R2 bonus disc but it gives the runtime error 9 as soon as you hit prepare (with or without editing the titles) so I cant do that disc yet. But I this other disc with the 120MB angle-extra that I can test with.

EDIT: I just stripped angles from the main movie of SW Ep1 R2 without editing the VIDEO_TS.IFO and it dvd-rb doesnt seem to mind :) (preparing now) DVD-RB only looks in the individual IFOs for multiangles and interleaving. It won't matter soon enough, as it'll be supporting those. Frankly I thought it would have happened before now -- but I want to make the "basic" engine solid first.

[Joergen]

Originally posted by jdobbs
DVD-RB only looks in the individual IFOs for multiangles and interleaving. It won't matter soon enough, as it'll be supporting those. Frankly I thought it would have happened before now -- but I want to make the "basic" engine solid first.

You're making amazing progress daily! I hope you can breathe a sigh of relief soon now that most of the problems are history, and find new energy to tackle all possible multiangle/branching dvd weirdness out there.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Joergen
You're making amazing progress daily! I hope you can breathe a sigh of relief soon now that most of the problems are history, and find new energy to tackle all possible multiangle/branching dvd weirdness out there. Thanks. I think the two biggies left are #0003 and #0004... they are a pain to fix and I keep putting them off.

[mayhem2408]

@jdobbs

Love the work so far. It's really comming along.

Quick observation. When I am encoding with CCE, I notice that while CCE is doing the encoding, ReBuilder.exe is consuming between 7-11% CPU usage and CCE is consuming the rest. What might ReBuilder be doing?

[quantum]

Originally posted by mayhem2408
Quick observation. When I am encoding with CCE, I notice that while CCE is doing the encoding, ReBuilder.exe is consuming between 7-11% CPU usage and CCE is consuming the rest. What might ReBuilder be doing? Are you running CCE in low priority? If so, switch DVD RB to low priority in Task Manager if you really care about the 7-11%.

@wmansir: I've seen this a few times. Possible candidate for the FAQ.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by mayhem2408
@jdobbs

Love the work so far. It's really comming along.

Quick observation. When I am encoding with CCE, I notice that while CCE is doing the encoding, ReBuilder.exe is consuming between 7-11% CPU usage and CCE is consuming the rest. What might ReBuilder be doing? It doing nothing more than regular checking to see if CCE is complete. I think quantum is on the right track.

[totya]

0.42 beta

Process..ok.
Encode..ok.
Rebuild..error.

The message (modal box) : DVD rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error# 0004. Process must abort.

Best regards :

Totya

[dancis]

Here also still a buffer overflow when rebuilding , did a clean install of windows xp , al programs and still a buffer overflow. But i saw jdobbs is working on this problem as we speak!!

So i will just sit back and wait untill it is solved , i know jdobbs will solve this to! He is the master of one click encoders !!! :sly:

[totya]

oopsss...

I see new VIDEO_TS directory (size is very small), ok, Power DVD Play.

The menu is ok, but when main film is start, I see message on the DVD player screen : Script error. There is no funciton named "mpeg2source" (...\D2VAVS\V01000000001001.AVS, line5)

Totya

[Joergen]

He sure is (the master).

On a positive note, I'm doing the latest Roman Polanski masterpiece* that is long as h*ll and the reduction is 62% with only 150MB of menu on the disc and one audio and sub track, but the quality is excellent!

Today; The Pianist*. Tomorrow; Schindler's List. The day after that; Suicide. ;)

No, I like factual drama features.

[Joergen]

Originally posted by totya
There is no funciton named "mpeg2source" (...\D2VAVS\V01000000001001.AVS, line5)

Hehe.. check the FAQ in this forum. You have the Avisynth script error.

I must admit I got that the first time I tried dvd-rb but I previewed the first .m2v created in DVD2AVI and saw the error.

[philos31]

Originally posted by totya
oopsss...

I see new VIDEO_TS directory (size is very small), ok, Power DVD Play.

The menu is ok, but when main film is start, I see message on the DVD player screen : Script error. There is no funciton named "mpeg2source" (...\D2VAVS\V01000000001001.AVS, line5)

Totya
That is the dreaded avisynth error :)
Goto Options, Setup and give the path to mpeg2dec3dg
and select add to AVS file. That should do the trick.

If not search your drive for other (older) versions of avisynth and un-install them...

Edit: Hmm to late, allready got that answer :D

[totya]

Hi!

"...clean install of windows xp..."

My all programs works correctly, i should think, my XP system is very good.

"...wait untill it is solved..."

Ok, Thanks!

Totya

[KungFuCow]

Originally posted by totya
Hi!

"...clean install of windows xp..."

My all programs works correctly, i should think, my XP system is very good.

"...wait untill it is solved..."

Ok, Thanks!

Totya

Dude.. read the FAQ, read the manual. Someone above just stated what you need to do to fix your problem. IT IS AN AVISYNTH SETUP PROBLEM. Its not new, everyone here has seen it before. Just because you have a clean install of XP doesnt mean that DVD-RBs enviroment is set up correctly.

[totya]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
Dude.. read the FAQ, read the manual. Someone above just stated what you need to do to fix your problem. IT IS AN AVISYNTH SETUP PROBLEM. Its not new, everyone here has seen it before. Just because you have a clean install of XP doesnt mean that DVD-RBs enviroment is set up correctly.

Thanks many reply!

Ok, I see, this is setup problem, my answer is write BEFORE get many else answer...

If this path setting very important, then the program why not says, or I think if this settings value is null, then all process button : disabled ;)

Thanks many answer!

Totya

[dancis]

Originally posted by philos31
That is the dreaded avisynth error :)
Goto Options, Setup and give the path to mpeg2dec3dg
and select add to AVS file. That should do the trick.


Allready did this , and i still get a buffer overflow. I just have to wait untill jdobbs solves the problems with error 0004

[borgraf]

Originally posted by jdobbs
It doing nothing more than regular checking to see if CCE is complete. I think quantum is on the right track.

Firstly, greetings from the PAL region. I now have very good looking backup copies of my favorite films thanks to this great app of yours jdobbs :)

I also noticed that CCE (SP 2.67 - normal priority) was running a bit slow with ReBuilder (0.42). My CCE speed with ReBuilder is a steady 2.18 on my HyperThreading enabled P4 (220*14), and Rebuilder is using about 25% CPU. I tested aborting ReBuilder, and the speed of the CCE segment that was running would slowly rise from 2.18 to a more normal 2.57. Changing the priority of either or both gave no (significant) difference in speed. With HT disabled the speed is 2.32 in both cases, and ReBuilder uses about 1% CPU.

Could it be a hyperthreading issue with ReBuilder? Maybe someone else with a HT enabled machine (and SP 2.67 ?) can verify that it's not a fluke with my machine, though I verified the phenomenon with a reboot and encoding the same segment.

I know this issue is nowhere near as important as bug squashing, but perhaps somewhere down the road...

Keep up the good work jdobbs, you are paving a road to immortality with this thing :D

[totya]

Hi all!

Well, prepare, encode ok, total time 6 hours, but PHASE III dont't work.
Program says (error dialog box) : runtime error '75' : Path file access error.

Progress : V:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.VOB

If I'm press "ok" on the error dialog box, the program is closed.

My "V:" drive is virtual drive, mounted from ISO.

This ISO not original DVD, this DVD image created by DVD-shrink (re authoring mode), because i don't need menu, and all subtitles.

Please correct this error. I'm waiting :)

(If mounted original ISO, process starting, and few times and program says : "DVD rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow...error #0003...)

Thanks :

Totya

[wmansir]

Don't use a virtual drive. Follow the instructions in the stickie, or the readme, and extract the files in FILE mode. You shouldn't have to start over, just point your source directory to wherever you extract the files and try to rebuild again.

[totya]

Originally posted by wmansir
Don't use a virtual drive. Follow the instructions in the stickie, or the readme, and extract the files in FILE mode. You shouldn't have to start over, just point your source directory to wherever you extract the files and try to rebuild again.


Hi!

Your answer is very bad.

The readme :

"1. First, use DVD-Decrypter to rip the entire DVD, not just the movie to your
hard drive. Use file mode and take note of the output directory. You will need
it for DVD-RB."

Please, if my DVD is mounted virutal drive (from ISO) then that equally ripp in file mode (!).

The problem, if DVD not contains menu (VIDEO_TS.VOB), the DVD Rebuilder don't work.
No problem, I see this porgram is very beta. Please developed it and correct it.

Best regards :

Totya

[GizmoDerMokwai]

nice to see the new feature in 0.43b, but i'm really really really needing Multi-Angle Processing :D Just can't wait to back up my STar Wars and Shrek DVD using CCE...

[influenza]

The problem, if DVD not contains menu (VIDEO_TS.VOB), the DVD Rebuilder don't work.

I have no clue what you mean. But if you rip in filemode you'll have all files that are on the dvd, so also the menu. (just an exact copy of the video_ts folder).

I do agree that mounting an iso is a way better solution than filemode. it's a afer, more convenient method. No risk of loosing files, deleting them accidently etc.

[influenza]

nice to see the new feature in 0.43b, but i'm really really really needing Multi-Angle Processing Just can't wait to back up my STar Wars and Shrek DVD using CCE...

both titles have just very simple angles used for foreign language credits. if you can miss that just strip them out using ifoedit first and after that process with dvd-rb.

Or use the big3 method, which is perfectly capable of doing multi angled titles.

[Doom9]

nice to see the new feature in 0.43b, but i'm really really really needing Multi-Angle Processing Patience is a virtue ;)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by totya
Hi!

Your answer is very bad.

The readme :

"1. First, use DVD-Decrypter to rip the entire DVD, not just the movie to your
hard drive. Use file mode and take note of the output directory. You will need
it for DVD-RB."

Please, if my DVD is mounted virutal drive (from ISO) then that equally ripp in file mode (!).

The problem, if DVD not contains menu (VIDEO_TS.VOB), the DVD Rebuilder don't work.
No problem, I see this porgram is very beta. Please developed it and correct it.

Best regards :

Totya 1. No, it isn't equally the same -- as is proven by the error you are receiving.
2. "The problem, if DVD not contains menu" -- ???

[RB]

The default setting for DVDDecrypter File Mode is to select only "main movie" files (largest VTS). I guess totya just used this default so it didn't rip the entire DVD but just the largest VTS.

[nwg]

Originally posted by totya

The problem, if DVD not contains menu (VIDEO_TS.VOB), the DVD Rebuilder don't work.


DVD-RB works fine with film only DVD files. I have done them on reauthored Shrink files. You don't need a video_ts.vob but will need video_ts.ifo.

As already mentioned. it is the actual ISO causing the problem. It needs to be ripped in file mode to a directory (all files with the menu or just the film plus the video_ts.ifo)

[totya]

Originally posted by nwg
DVD-RB works fine with film only DVD files. I have done them on reauthored Shrink files. You don't need a video_ts.vob but will need video_ts.ifo.

As already mentioned. it is the actual ISO causing the problem. It needs to be ripped in file mode to a directory (all files with the menu or just the film plus the video_ts.ifo)


Hi!

Very thank you, your information is very important for me!
"DVD-RB works fine with film only DVD files. I have done them on reauthored Shrink files."

Well, I see, what the problem. Developers! :)
The DVDRebuilder works bad, WRITE (WRITE!) -> in the DVD source directory. Why?

This file is VIDEO_TS.VOB
File Size is 0. :)

This file already found in the destination directory.
I think this is simple programming error. This file created 2x.
The DVD Rebilder why write in the DVD source directory? :)

So not good ISO mode. This drive is READONLY.
I think, if this error correct it, this program works correctly if source is ISO.

Many error...but program even early beta...never mind!

Thanks many reply!

Totya

[rui]

Remember that the author is spending MUCH of it's time off developing this wonderfull tool for FREE!

If you aren't happy, then don't use it. Or create your own.

But don't post messages like the above one.

[Joergen]

Heh looks like somebody managed to do the sourcepath\video_ts thingie that I reported on to jdobbs :rolleyes:

Thats what designers throughout history have called "idiot proofing".

[quantum]

I think he's trying to describe a potential cause for the elusive errors that occur when reading from an ISO mounted drive. Also be aware english is probably not his first language so give him a break.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by totya
Hi!

Very thank you, your information is very important for me!
"DVD-RB works fine with film only DVD files. I have done them on reauthored Shrink files."

Well, I see, what the problem. Developers! :)
The DVDRebuilder works bad, WRITE (WRITE!) -> in the DVD source directory. Why?

This file is VIDEO_TS.VOB
File Size is 0. :)

This file already found in the destination directory.
I think this is simple programming error. This file created 2x.
The DVD Rebilder why write in the DVD source directory? :)

So not good ISO mode. This drive is READONLY.
I think, if this error correct it, this program works correctly if source is ISO.

Many error...but program even early beta...never mind!

Thanks many reply!

Totya My bad. DVD Rebuilder can't correct your inability to read instructions.

@quantum

Sorry, I'm not very inclined to be sympathetic today. Maybe if this person had spent the last several hundred of his/her own unpaid free time developing something to try and simplify the process for a lot of people and give them a quality backup -- then and only then would I be tempted to give that person a break.

[nwg]

Jdobbs, ignore this person. You are doing a wonderful job.

[totya]

Hi all!

Ok, I not say more bug...and solving (!). Else I'm programming too... about 15 years... I'm happy, if any people send me bug reports, or solving (!)... this is problem? this is problem?

I'm not happy. Simple file duplication bug, and this program not working from ISO...many people say, read readme...

Totya

[philos31]

Originally posted by jdobbs
My bad. DVD Rebuilder can't correct your inability to read instructions.


:D LOL very much LOL hehehe

Let us ignore this Troll!

About the new "release" I am so very happy about the half D1 Half bitrate.
I just did my Ong-Bak DVD again and got 16% extra for the main movie...

This program gets better and better by the hour!

I just can't imagine what the 1.0 version will look like :p

[KungFuCow]

Originally posted by totya
Hi all!

Ok, I not say more bug...and solving (!). Else I'm programming too... about 15 years... I'm happy, if any people send me bug reports, or solving (!)... this is problem? this is problem?

I'm not happy. Simple file duplication bug, and this program not working from ISO...many people say, read readme...

Totya

I use virtual drives exclusively mounted with Alcohol 120% and I have never had the problem you are having.

[DDogg]

Originally posted by KungFuCow -
I use virtual drives exclusively mounted with Alcohol 120% and I have never had the problem you are having.I said that also, until ntsc "revolutions". If somebody does not get the 75 on this title using XP and alcohol or [daemon] tools, please let us know. Perhaps it is some machine specific setting causing the problem? I can replicate this error on demand, anytime.

Let's try to get this thread back on a constructive road. :)

/Add: Disclaimer - ISO mounted source is not officially supported by DVD-RB.

[mayhem2408]

Originally posted by totya

The DVDRebuilder works bad, WRITE (WRITE!) -> in the DVD source directory. Why?


I've just mounted an ISO image created with DVD Decrypter and ran ReBuilder over it. No problems at all.

[Turambar]

same problem here with Matrix Revolutions and Gothika, of all things.:scared:

The weird thing is --- with early versions of DVD Rebuilder (i.e., "16"), I could run AnyDVD and then have Rebuilder read directly from the source and go right through the rebuild phase without any errors.

No biggy --- It's just that ripping the files to the hard disk and then running Rebuilder takes longer??

BTW, a fantastic program, Jerry! I sent you $15 via Pay Pal last week.:D

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by philos31
:D LOL very much LOL hehehe

Let us ignore this Troll!

About the new "release" I am so very happy about the half D1 Half bitrate.
I just did my Ong-Bak DVD again and got 16% extra for the main movie...

This program gets better and better by the hour!

I just can't imagine what the 1.0 version will look like :p I was thinking I might use the Microsoft strategy and call the first release v6.0...

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by DDogg
I said that also, until ntsc "revolutions". If somebody does not get the 75 on this title using XP and alcohol or deamon tools, please let us know. Perhaps it is some machine specific setting causing the problem? I can replicate this error on demand, anytime.

Let's try to get this thread back on a constructive road. :)

/Add: Disclaimer - ISO mounted source is not officially supported by DVD-RB. I'm picking this DVD up later today (I got two donations today!) and will mount it using daemon tools. I'm kinda' getting to like the "mounting" concept... I've always just used file mode in the past.

I'll find out what's causing it and fix it -- I can't imagine right now... I pretty much just open the files and read from them...