CCE One-Click Software Beta

[jdobbs]

It changes depending on the version of CCE you are using. In yours it would be top_first=1

[redfive19]

@jdobbs
okay bro. thanks for the info. Is this going to be added in a future version of the app?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by rayvt
Useing DVD-RB 0.19 & 21, at the end, it says "invalid VIDEO_TS.IFO", and errors off. I've tried both rejig and QuEnc, and get the same problem. With rejig, I could open the movie (with WinDVD), but the sound was seriously out of sync). DVD-RB does a sanity check. If the VIDEO_TS file doesn't start with the correct header you get this error. You have either a corrupted or non-existent VIDEO_TS file.

[wmansir]

Regarding TFF/BFF aka Line Offset.

I know Jdobbs said he was performing pulldown if needed on the fly during rebuilding. Would it be possible to encode the video as is (line offset = 0, Topfirst=0) and then set the TFF flag during the rebuilding step, if needed?

[redfive19]

well I am completely lost. changing the field order did not work. I tried it on another of my DVD's, Sunset Blvd, and it worked splendingly but that DVD is progressive.

Has anyone had a similiar experience?

[dvdRENEGADE]

@redfive19

If you want to, you can encode any hybrid source or interlaced source as interlaced to avoid any potential problems with ivtc. If you think you've done this and have tried reversing fields and it still gives problems, you obviously are not simply encoding as interlaced or have a problem outside of the encode process. Try encoding as interlaced and see what happens.
dvdRENEGADE

[issa]

The TopFieldFirst or "Offset Line" should set to 0 or uncheck it in all case, since CCE is always output as "Top Field First".
Take a look in CCE Forum FAQ #10 & #11 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53770)
I recommand using Restream to turn off TopFieldFirst flag after you do the encoding if you have bottom field first source.

[redfive19]

Thing is, my source is top first. It's the weirdest thing I've ever seen. I will try restream anyway and fool around with it.

[quantum]

Originally posted by issa
The TopFieldFirst or "Offset Line" should set to 0 or uncheck it in all case, since CCE is always output as "Top Field First".
Take a look in CCE Forum FAQ #10 & #11 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53770)
Look at the FAQ again. If the video is interlaced and BFF then you have to set it. Not doing this correctly is exactly what causes jerky frames.

Another case not listed in the FAQ, you have to set it correctly if you use the CCE pulldown feature.

[jir591]

Can someone explain the advantages, if any, of using a later version of CCE 2.5 with DVD-RB?

thanks

[djan]

Originally posted by jir591
Can someone explain the advantages, if any, of using a later version of CCE 2.5?

thanks I would like to know too. Is there any quality difference ? Thx.

[mikegun]

hi,

I'm sure that a search in the forums will give you tons of threats regarding this topic

mikegun

[jir591]

Originally posted by mikegun
hi,

I'm sure that a search in the forums will give you tons of threats regarding this topic

mikegun

Really .... never thought of that !!

Quite frankly I didn't want tons. Maybe one sentence would do.

[mikegun]

Originally posted by jir591
Really .... never thought of that !!

Maybe one sentence would do.

I understand. but afaik there is not that kind of answer...
I could answer "not really" ;-)

rgds.

mikegun

[geffroman]

Don't be mean to Mike... after all he is already cursed wih being the One Inch Man... :)

[mikegun]

Originally posted by geffroman
Don't be mean to Mike... after all he is already cursed wih being the One Inch Man... :)

life is hard pal :-) ...
...and thanks for your support.

m.

[robw]

Can someone explain the advantages, if any, of using a later version of CCE 2.5 with DVD-RB?

yes, it's very simple. CCE 2.67 basic is the only affordable version.

[Old1]

Can I use the one click mode with CCE 2.5 SP without ECLCCE? Will the command line sequence work OK?.

Thanks

Old1

[jdobbs]

No. CCE 2.50 doesn't have inherent command line support.

[bocinko]

... request to jdobbs:
is possible to replace one of AC3 [same size and playtime] with external one in your DVD-RB ?
If isn't, may be ? ... in future.
I want to do some DVD's dubbed with my 3rd world language.
I did them over 20, but it takes me ages and ages to do that.
If some software supports this option, just let me know.
many thanx...

sorry for my english [that's what i want my lang dubbed DVD's]

keep your great work alive.

thanx
...B

m

[StifflerStealth]

Originally posted by bocinko
... request to jdobbs:
is possible to replace one of AC3 [same size and playtime] with external one in your DVD-RB ?
If isn't, may be ? ... in future.
I want to do some DVD's dubbed with my 3rd world language.
I did them over 20, but it takes me ages and ages to do that.
If some software supports this option, just let me know.
many thanx...


The only way I can think of doing that would be to use the big 3 process. Then name your external file the same as the main ac3 file, and then overwrite the main ac3 file with your external one. Then when you run ScenAid your external one will be included in the scp script. In Scenarist, change the language to your language and follow the rest of the big 3 process.

Hope this helps.

Stiff

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by bocinko
... request to jdobbs:
is possible to replace one of AC3 [same size and playtime] with external one in your DVD-RB ?
If isn't, may be ? ... in future.
I want to do some DVD's dubbed with my 3rd world language.
I did them over 20, but it takes me ages and ages to do that.
If some software supports this option, just let me know.
many thanx...

sorry for my english [that's what i want my lang dubbed DVD's]

keep your great work alive.

thanx
...B

m Actually that shouldn't be that hard to do. First, though, I want to concentrate on getting the major bugs out. Remind me again.

[bocinko]

.... sure i'm doing it that way [but big3's is to complicated].
This mean AGEA AND AGES.
If main movie is single PGC [the best case] i use IfoEdit's DVD authoring + IfoUpdate ... but ... in both cases i need a lot of time and free space.
I know about 10 combinations and i need 1 - quick.
I mean some like VirtualDUB with DivX.
I need to do the authoring many times 'til i'm satisfied with opening mouth in right time, gunshots etc.

[if i used some wrong words, sorry, my PC translator is 5 years old]

Anyway thanx for interest.


..:B

[bocinko]

What means ... Remind me again.

Later. If Later ... When.

thank you

[jdobbs]

It means -- don't let me forget.

[redfive19]

Okay I tried the app on my Total Training For Adobe After Effects 6 DVD. The source DVD is interlaced and the final product still shows signs of jagged-ness (best way to describe it!) when say someone's hand moves. It almost looks like something was ghosted. Very very odd. Other than that, the output looks great. Picture is clear. Plus, I was able to backup this dvd and have it work. I was NOT able to do that with the BIG3 method. So kudos jdobbs. Just wish this interlaced problem was fixed!

[redfive19]

Okay, I used CCE 2.50 on the Buena Vista Social Club DVD. This time I took the exported M2V files and brought a couple into Adobe Encore DVD. I authored the dvd and I no longer see the artifacts I once did. So I will leave this go overnight and see if DVD RB fixes the interlaced problem by using CCE 2.50!

[djan]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Next up on the agenda is:
1. Allocating bitrates proportionally to each cell based upon the original bit distribution
2. Settings so bitrates can be different between VTSs so more can be allocated to the movie and less to VTSs holding extras.
3. Improvements so stills are better supported.
Hi jdobbs,

Are these todo's always in your agenda ? :) Because I'm specially waiting for the bitrate allocation. It'll give much better quality. I think it should not be too difficult to implement. When do you intend to add it ? :)

[RobertR]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Actually that shouldn't be that hard to do. First, though, I want to concentrate on getting the major bugs out. Remind me again.
Can i assume that replacing of subpic stream shouldn't be more trouble? Can i remind you about this issue when you will be closing on 1.0 release?
(still trying to find a way to squeeze polish subs into dvdr :D)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RobertR
Can i assume that replacing of subpic stream shouldn't be more trouble? Can i remind you about this issue when you will be closing on 1.0 release?
(still trying to find a way to squeeze polish subs into dvdr :D) It depends on the format of the subs. Right now I take existing subs as-is with no processing. If you have a completely compiled sub stream that is ready to be merged, yet it can be done fairly easily. But if all you have is text with times -- I'd have to write quite a bit of code to support it. I think there are other packages that might do that...

[lighty]

Originally posted by RobertR
Can i assume that replacing of subpic stream shouldn't be more trouble? Can i remind you about this issue when you will be closing on 1.0 release?


Well, you certainly have my vote on it! ;)

[RobertR]

Originally posted by jdobbs
It depends on the format of the subs. Right now I take existing subs as-is with no processing. If you have a completely compiled sub stream that is ready to be merged, yet it can be done fairly easily. But if all you have is text with times -- I'd have to write quite a bit of code to support it. I think there are other packages that might do that...
Compiled sub stream in some known and supported by other application format is all that's needed (hmm this would mean .sup format? most probably yes). There is realy now reason for you to waste your time on coding stuff like actually compiling sub streams. Your work on this app as well as on IfoUpdate is more precious for us (us being so selfish :D).
As for donations i would gladly do that but PayPal is no option for people living in Poland :( Could You consider some other ways of donating?

[Longevity]

Jdobbs,

Will you be able to fix the run-time erro 6 'overflow' problem? I am excited just by reading all the postings and cannot wait to test it out.

[rayvt]

Okay on the "bad VIDEO_TS.IFO" error. I had ripped the DVD with smartripper, and only kept the main movie. When I re-ripped the whole thing, dvd-rb worked fine.

Problem is-----I only wanted the main movie, not all that other cr*p. The movie is 5.6GB and the whole DVD is 7.7GB. Doing the movie only, dvd-rb used 85% compression, and doing the entire DVD was around 50%. I hate to waste all those bits on inane directors comments and trailers and "the-making-of" items that I will never watch.

I guess I was just assuming that dvd-rb would work like DVDShrink and let me pick just the main movie. Any suggestions here? Any plans for dvd-rb to allow one to specify which vob sets to include and which to omit?

I'm assuming that the primary reason for writing dvd-rb was to be able to use a rejig/quenc/cce as (presumably) higher-quality re-encoder(s) than whatever DVDShrink uses, right?

BTW, it might be nice if you could have two "work directories", one for the intermediate AVS files and one for the final VIDEO_TS files. That way, you could put them on different physical hard drives and hopefully increase the speed. Watching the performance graphs, it looks like the CPU utilization is low and the disk is running flat-out.

Ah...one more thing. If there are special characters (like space, parenthesis, etc.) anywhere in the directory names, dvd-rb gets horribly confused---everything after that character is dropped, and it can't find the files.

Thanks,
Ray

[lab-one]

@rayvt

Problem is-----I only wanted the main movie, not all that other cr*p. The movie is 5.6GB and the whole DVD is 7.7GB. Doing the movie only, dvd-rb used 85% compression, and doing the entire DVD was around 50%. I hate to waste all those bits on inane directors comments and trailers and "the-making-of" items that I will never watch.

First, amen to the above....

I guess I was just assuming that dvd-rb would work like DVDShrink and let me pick just the main movie. Any suggestions here? Any plans for dvd-rb to allow one to specify which vob sets to include and which to omit?

Second, I have used DVDShrink (no compression) on 2 movies that I have then ran through DVD-RB. I removed everything except the main movie and the audio streams and have absolutely no problems (except the FF/RW issues that have been fixed since). Might want to try this if smartripper isn't working.

[jdobbs]

@rayvtAh...one more thing. If there are special characters (like space, parenthesis, etc.) anywhere in the directory names, dvd-rb gets horribly confused---everything after that character is dropped, and it can't find the files. ???? I have spaces in my output all the time. But I'll test it tonight.

[robw]

Just a comment on what you want ... main movie only (yes/no), extras, menus, etc.

I use the following workflow which has been very satisfactory and works excellent with DVD-RB and gives me all the options.

1. Rip the DVD to HD using DVDStripper
http://www.dvdstripper.com/
This program works in conjunction with DVD Decrypter and IFOEdit. It will copy the DVD and let you choose what to keep and what to toss. You simply double click on the elements in your DVD and decide what goes and what stays. It will then take the pieces and reconstruct a working DVD on your HD in a VIDEO_TS folder of your choosing.

2. Run DVD-RB

3. Run DVDReMake.
http://www.dimadsoft.com/dvdremake/index.php
First you read in the DVD from DVD-RB folder, next eliminate any menu items if you eliminated stuff in step 1 (this isn't required, it just makes your menus look better). Finally, write out your DVD to a new directory. All the VOB/IFO navigation stuff is updated.

Give this a try. I'm quite sure many of you will like this approach.

[psdos]

jdobbs, DVD-RB dont work with CCE 2.67.00.23 because the AVS file is not complete, you´ll know say me if in AVS is if necesary?

LoadPlugin("C:\windows\system32\MPEG2DEC.DLL")

[GooglyBear]

Originally posted by psdos
jdobbs, DVD-RB dont work with CCE 2.67.00.23 because the AVS file is not complete, you´ll know say me if in AVS is if necesary?

LoadPlugin("C:\windows\system32\MPEG2DEC.DLL")

umm.. I use CCE 2.67.00.23 and it worked fine.. I loaded up the rundown iso on daemon tools and let 1click do its thing.. i even used 30 for the prec and vbr-5 pass.. 12+ hours later it finished without a flaw..

odd enough i'm re-running it right now after first using dvdshrink on it since last night it crapped out on me.. hopefully this one goes straight through as well if not i'm off to the bug thread for research/report :scared:

[hypo20]

Originally posted by psdos
jdobbs, DVD-RB dont work with CCE 2.67.00.23 because the AVS file is not complete, you´ll know say me if in AVS is if necesary?

LoadPlugin("C:\windows\system32\MPEG2DEC.DLL")

Install AviSynth 2.54 to the default dir and copy mpeg2dec3dg.dll to the C:\Program Files\AviSynth\Plugins directory. :)

[psdos]

what options for CCE 2.67.00.23?
Basic 2.67+?

P.D. error is open CCE but it dont anything

[hypo20]

Originally posted by psdos
what options for CCE 2.67.00.23?
Basic 2.67+?

P.D. error is open CCE but it dont anything

No. 2.66+

Write me your mail. I'll send you config file. :o)

[hypo20]

Ok.

Here's my configuration for DVD-RB 0.23 and CCE SP 2.66 and higher.
eclCCE and DVD-RB 0.23 also included. Just put CCE and files in archive to the same dir and run dvd-rb.

@jdobbs
If you have something against distributing on my server, please let me know, and I will remove it.

http://www.columnium.com/hypo/dvdrb/dvdrbini.zip

[psdos]

the link is break, i dont download

[hypo20]

Whops. Link updated. My mistake. :)

[hypo20]

confid there updated.

[psdos]

Ok RB open now eclCCE and compress.
One think more, i put 4 pass and i see only 3 to you too?

[hypo20]

Originally posted by psdos
Ok RB open now eclCCE and compress.
One think more, i put 4 pass and i see only 3 to you too?

I'm using standard 2-pass VBR encoding.

[psdos]

Error 9 in run time ohhhh the film is episode 1 star wars, error is for multi angle?

[hypo20]

Originally posted by psdos
Error 9 in run time ohhhh the film is episode 1 star wars, error is for multi angle?

I think yes. It is not supporting multiangles at this time.