CCE One-Click Software Beta

[RB]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Originally posted by RB
As I have outlined in http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.p...r=22#post466446 it's something that jdobbs should fix ... at least that's what I'm begging for
I'll give it my best shot. But if it isn't related to order in the .ECL I don't know what I could do.
It definitely is the order in the ECL. Just save an ECL from CCE-SP 2.50 and make sure you match the order of the options.

[nurseman]

DVD Rebuilder 0.27... error 9 again...!

i hope the problem is not on me

[JvD]

Originally posted by nurseman
DVD Rebuilder 0.27... error 9 again...!
i hope the problem is not on me

I did have this problem until now. Tried the same movie but instead of runtime error 9 I now have MS error reporting system saying something went wrong with DVD-RB. Dont know why yet. Its during the rebuild process. Did you use CCE?

[nurseman]

Originally posted by JvD
I did have this problem until now. Tried the same movie but instead of runtime error 9 I now have MS error reporting system saying something went wrong with DVD-RB. Dont know why yet. Its during the rebuild process. Did you use CCE?

Yes, CCE 2.5, but the error 9 occurre in the begining of the demux

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by nurseman
Yes, CCE 2.5, but the error 9 occurre in the begining of the demux If you're using CCE there is no demux.

[jojje_l]

One thing I think is important about this software is that it seems to be more and more advanced, almost to advanced for an average user (which I believe is the target for this software). I mean, I love the software and I did have a good experience. But there are more and more settings and features added, even I don´t understand them all. And I´ve done a couple of dvd´s in the past year... I think there must be some kind of documentation of all the settings, maybe in the Rebuilder.txt file. Do you think a user going from DvdS*rink or Dvd*One will understand the AVS Options??? I don´t... And, yes, I know one can search the internet or the 3 forum threads containing no less than 1400 posts in no particual order... But does a first time user do that? Does he know where to search? All of us do, but thats because we have all been following this thread since the start. 1400 posts not categorized... Everybody understands that it is easier to ask again than to search for the answer to the question already asked. I think that it is important to include a good documentation for the software, then it might be easier for a newbie to understand and get the best result out of it rather than saying that it´s to difficult to use. Because I guess thats the goal, to get a simple program everybody knows how to use to get the best possible quality out of an encoded dvd. Keep up the good word jdobbs! I know it´s still beta, but don´t forget to include a description of all the options. Cheers all!

[zakmccrack]

Dear friends,

There is a way to correct the Dvd output size?
DvdRb product an undersize output.

Thanks a lot

Zak:)

[ron spencer]

I agree with jojje_l. It may be nice to step back and have a help file written with all of the various options for CCE, etc in it. Maybe someone could write it for jdobbs and those of us who need more hand holding could donate a bit to the help file author. There are options in DVD-RB that are not dicussed anywhere.

By the way...has anyone tried Rebuilder with one of the "monster" movies....that is the 3 hour Lord of the Rings ones? I would be interested in the results...

[geffroman]

Originally posted by jojje_l
One thing I think is important about this software is that it seems to be more and more advanced, almost to advanced for an average user (which I believe is the target for this software). I mean, I love the software and I did have a good experience. But there are IMHO - For now I'd say let the experienced users help jdobbs with developement and bug fixes... the last thing he needs is to write a manual for newbies and intermediates (LIKE ME)... I am reading this post daily and expect to jump in when things get stable and lot's of smart users have a handle on it before I start tossing my stupid questions at the forum creating confusion between bugs and user error...

I think it's too early to address the concerns of the masses... Again - IMHO

[jptheripper]

second successful RB disk (happened to be disk 2 in a set)

first disk 4.33gb , second 4.25

couldnt be happier, encodes look beautiful

14 hours on each start to end, one click method, 6 passes in cce (5+vaf), ~7.5gb source for each

THANK YOU jdobbs

-jp

[theuser86]

Quick Question:

What sources can DVD-RB NOT do? I know it cannot do seamless branching sources as of the newest version. But I have read through the thread about "interleaving movies" and how it does not suppor that.

Can someone just briefly elaborate on what this type of source is? Or provide with a link that can explain this to me and how I can identify if the source dvd is of this "interleaved" type. (The only interleave I know of is the interleaving between video and audio when you're multiplexing two primary streams to a sec. stream.)

Thanks.

[nurseman]

Originally posted by jdobbs
If you're using CCE there is no demux.

i'm in the dark... i know, i'm a rookie but i'm not dummie
i select sorce and target and hit PREPARE them show:
scanning and writing .D2V file folow by the error message
maybe i said demux thinking in demultiplexing

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by ron spencer
I agree with jojje_l. It may be nice to step back and have a help file written with all of the various options for CCE, etc in it. Maybe someone could write it for jdobbs and those of us who need more hand holding could donate a bit to the help file author. There are options in DVD-RB that are not dicussed anywhere.

By the way...has anyone tried Rebuilder with one of the "monster" movies....that is the 3 hour Lord of the Rings ones? I would be interested in the results... I did. It looks very, very good. But CCE gets the credit for that, not DVD-RB

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by theuser86
Quick Question:

What sources can DVD-RB NOT do? I know it cannot do seamless branching sources as of the newest version. But I have read through the thread about "interleaving movies" and how it does not suppor that.

Can someone just briefly elaborate on what this type of source is? Or provide with a link that can explain this to me and how I can identify if the source dvd is of this "interleaved" type. (The only interleave I know of is the interleaving between video and audio when you're multiplexing two primary streams to a sec. stream.)

Thanks. In v.028 I am kicking out an error message and refusing to do interleaved, seamless branching, and muliple angle movies that DVD-RB just isn't ready for. I'm hoping it will prevent a lot of these errors that just make no sense to me...

In interleaving while viewing the data stream you will see pieces of one VOBID/CELLID sequentially followed by another VOBID/CELLID, and then a reversion to the first one again happening over-and-over. You will often find that they have two versions of the same material (one may have button-over-video added). It is used for a lot of things like angles and seamless branching. It makes it possible to have two streams follow essentially the same path on the disc without a lot of head movement caused by choosing one path over the other.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by nurseman
i'm in the dark... i know, i'm a rookie but i'm not dummie
i select sorce and target and hit PREPARE them show:
scanning and writing .D2V file folow by the error message
maybe i said demux thinking in demultiplexing I'm not trying to insult you... if it appeared that way I apologize. The reason I mention it is that if you think you are doing CCE -- but a message appears that mentions demuxing, you are actually doing ReJig (I demux cells for ReJig to compress).

[robw]

by the way, this board is filled with posts for all kinds of applications where people claim pixelation and sound problems. Many of these issues can be traced back to the media used. Ultimately, if its a problem with the software it should be present when played on either a PC or a standalone. If its only on the standalone then it could be media or the player.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by robw
by the way, this board is filled with posts for all kinds of applications where people claim pixelation and sound problems. Many of these issues can be traced back to the media used. Ultimately, if its a problem with the software it should be present when played on either a PC or a standalone. If its only on the standalone then it could be media or the player. I agree. I'm confident that any pixelation problems related to DVD-RB are gone. (I'd never swear to anything, though).

[chadp1a]

Originally posted by jdobbs
In v.028 I am kicking out an error message and refusing to do interleaved, seamless branching, and muliple angle movies that DVD-RB just isn't ready for. I'm hoping it will prevent a lot of these errors that just make no sense to me...

In interleaving while viewing the data stream you will see pieces of one VOBID/CELLID sequentially followed by another VOBID/CELLID, and then a reversion to the first one again happening over-and-over. You will often find that they have two versions of the same material (one may have button-over-video added). It is used for a lot of things like angles and seamless branching. It makes it possible to have two streams follow essentially the same path on the disc without a lot of head movement caused by choosing one path over the other.

Hopefully version .28 will fix the overflow errors I am having. What's the ETA look like for .28 if you don't mind me asking?

[viper315]

1st off like to say great program. Am having a bit of a problem with it and noone I have talked to can seem to figure out how to solve it. I have to manually open the ecl file in order to encode, it will not let me do it inside the program no matter whether I use the one click method or hte encode part of the 3 step. Below is the following error message that I get, thing that gets me is its not even the right .ecl file that is needed to be used. Well any help is appreciated.

AviFileOpen("D:/working/D2VAVS/Item.ecl"): According to the registry, the type of file specified in AviFileOpen does not have a handler to process it

[2COOL]

@viper315

Welcome to the forum!

It would be helpful to jdobbs and us if you could provide more details on what software you are using and version. Have you followed the installation guide in the Read Me file in Help?

[nwg]

viper315 worte,
AviFileOpen("D:/working/D2VAVS/Item.ecl"): According to the registry, the type of file specified in AviFileOpen does not have a handler to process it

I got that with eclCCE 1.8. I had to go back to 1.7.

[viper315]

Okay, so far here I have tried v.23, v.26 & v.27 they all do the same thing.

CCE 2.50
Avisyth 2.54

As for the eclCCE ver I do not know what ver of that I am using, don't see anything that says a ver #. I believe those are the only software that I am using, thats all that jumps to mind right now anyway. As I said the program works but I have to manually open the rebuilder.ecl file and encode. Any ideas you may have would be appreciated. Someone mentioned eclCCE 1.7 if anyone knows where can find that ID be willing to try it, but for all I know I already have it. thanks. viper315

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by viper315
Okay, so far here I have tried v.23, v.26 & v.27 they all do the same thing.

CCE 2.50
Avisyth 2.54

As for the eclCCE ver I do not know what ver of that I am using, don't see anything that says a ver #. I believe those are the only software that I am using, thats all that jumps to mind right now anyway. As I said the program works but I have to manually open the rebuilder.ecl file and encode. Any ideas you may have would be appreciated. Someone mentioned eclCCE 1.7 if anyone knows where can find that ID be willing to try it, but for all I know I already have it. thanks. viper315 That is definitely your problem.

[wmansir]

Originally posted by viper315
1st off like to say great program. Am having a bit of a problem with it and noone I have talked to can seem to figure out how to solve it. I have to manually open the ecl file in order to encode, it will not let me do it inside the program no matter whether I use the one click method or hte encode part of the 3 step. Below is the following error message that I get, thing that gets me is its not even the right .ecl file that is needed to be used. Well any help is appreciated.

AviFileOpen("D:/working/D2VAVS/Item.ecl"): According to the registry, the type of file specified in AviFileOpen does not have a handler to process it

That is the error message CCE 2.5 (itself, without EclCCE) gives when you try and drag-n-drop an .ecl file onto it, because CCE 2.5 doesn't support drag-n-drop of project files, just video files. You should try installing EclCCE (1.7b, RB and EclCCE 1.8 are currently incompatible), start it and select your CCE 2.5 executible, and then reconfiguring RB to use it instead of the CCE executible.

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by robw
by the way, this board is filled with posts for all kinds of applications where people claim pixelation and sound problems. Many of these issues can be traced back to the media used. Ultimately, if its a problem with the software it should be present when played on either a PC or a standalone. If its only on the standalone then it could be media or the player.

I'm glad that this was found to be an acually bug in RB and fixed.

Even after jdobbs couldn't recreate the problem he still never gave up. Many would have blamed media, or players. I applaud him for his work and determination in finding the problem and fixing it.

[jdobbs]

What the hell... I applaud me too.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by wmansir
That is the error message CCE 2.5 (itself, without EclCCE) gives when you try and drag-n-drop an .ecl file onto it, because CCE 2.5 doesn't support drag-n-drop of project files, just video files. You should try installing EclCCE (1.7b, RB and EclCCE 1.8 are currently incompatible), start it and select your CCE 2.5 executible, and then reconfiguring RB to use it instead of the CCE executible. Well that isn't entirely correct. If you save an ECL from CCE and then drag and drop it back in, it works fine. But when the parameters are out of order (apparently) it can be opened from the menu -- but will get this message when you drag-and-drop.

In other words... it's probably my fault. In previous versions of eclCCE RB was using simulated menu input, so it worked fine. He'd found that drag-and-drop was a cleaner interface, and changed it in v0.18... and it revealed the problem. I'll fix it in v0.29

[robw]

Originally posted by jdobbs
What the hell... I applaud me too.

Truth be told, we all applaud you jdobbs. It's no mistake that this thread is now split in 3 and all three are too large to manage. The product you are creating is obviously what people have been wanting for quite some time. You not only have the ability to get it done but have been extremely generous with your time and have brought this product to fruition faster than any one of us could have imagined, let alone asked for.

Thanks so much for getting DVD-RB to the state its at so quickly. We really do appreciate it!

For all those who agree, how about giving paypal a little visit. If this product doesn't deserve your support, just tell me one that does.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by robw
Truth be told, we all applaud you jdobbs. It's no mistake that this thread is now split in 3 and all three are too large to manage. The product you are creating is obviously what people have been wanting for quite some time. You not only have the ability to get it done but have been extremely generous with your time and have brought this product to fruition faster than any one of us could have imagined, let alone asked for.

Thanks so much for getting DVD-RB to the state its at so quickly. We really do appreciate it!

For all those who agree, how about giving paypal a little visit. If this product doesn't deserve your support, just tell me one that does. Thanks. It's good that I do this for the challenge. If I was depending on donations I'd have switched over to selling pencils by now...

[wmansir]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Well that isn't entirely correct. If you save an ECL from CCE and then drag and drop it back in, it works fine. But when the parameters are out of order (apparently) it can be opened from the menu -- but will get this message when you drag-and-drop.

In other words... it's probably my fault. In previous versions of eclCCE RB was using simulated menu input, so it worked fine. He'd found that drag-and-drop was a cleaner interface, and changed it in v0.18... and it revealed the problem. I'll fix it in v0.29

Your right. I was mistaken because I recalled that RB added the drag-n-drop of .ecl ability to EclCCE several versions ago (but still simulating menu import). Now I remember that it was for the trial versions which didn't support .ecl loading at all.

[mayhem2408]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Thanks. It's good that I do this for the challenge. If I was depending on donations I'd have switched over to selling pencils by now...

I appreciate the hard work you are doing and have already made my donation. Please keep up the good work. :)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by mayhem2408
I appreciate the hard work you are doing and have already made my donation. Please keep up the good work. :) I sincerely appreciate it.

[lab-one]

originally posted by mayhem2408
I appreciate the hard work you are doing and have already made my donation. Please keep up the good work.



Ditto

[KungFuCow]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Thanks. It's good that I do this for the challenge. If I was depending on donations I'd have switched over to selling pencils by now...

Too all of you non donators reading this, it should make you ashamed :(

[wmansir]

Jdobbs, do you think DVD-Rebuilder should be given it's own subforum? It has definitely taken over this subforum, and personally I think finding info on a bug/instruction/fix in these large threads is becoming difficult, though I have tried to keep up with them all. Yet for some reason I get (unreasonably?) annoyed at the newbs who start a new thread on a "bug" or suggestion when you have asked them to use the two main threads.

If the program becomes as popular as it appears to be (and has the potential to be) it is bound to happen some time. And in truth it doesn't fit with the other 1-clicks anyway. It is really a question of timing, I think. And what would be most convenient for you of course.

[Zarch_UK]

Jdobbs,

Been sat in the background, taking each build when it arrives and testing it out on various discs. Had a few teething problems, but this thread helped sort them out. Not really found any problems that others haven't.

Agree with a previous post about hints & tips for CCE settings. At the moment i'm just hitting "GO". I'd like to know more, where can i look?

I've just donated $10, is this the norm? Fantastic product, i've tried the big 3 method on a couple of occasions and failed miserably, this product really is the business.

Looking forward to all the enhancements and improvements to come.

Cheers

Zarch

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Zarch_UK
Jdobbs,

Been sat in the background, taking each build when it arrives and testing it out on various discs. Had a few teething problems, but this thread helped sort them out. Not really found any problems that others haven't.

Agree with a previous post about hints & tips for CCE settings. At the moment i'm just hitting "GO". I'd like to know more, where can i look?

I've just donated $10, is this the norm? Fantastic product, i've tried the big 3 method on a couple of occasions and failed miserably, this product really is the business.

Looking forward to all the enhancements and improvements to come.

Cheers

Zarch Yes, thanks. I have the weekend coming up. I'll be able to devote more time to it then.

[DirtyAbdul]

Originally posted by wmansir
Jdobbs, do you think DVD-Rebuilder should be given it's own subforum? It has definitely taken over this subforum, and personally I think finding info on a bug/instruction/fix in these large threads is becoming difficult, though I have tried to keep up with them all. Yet for some reason I get (unreasonably?) annoyed at the newbs who start a new thread on a "bug" or suggestion when you have asked them to use the two main threads.

If the program becomes as popular as it appears to be (and has the potential to be) it is bound to happen some time. And in truth it doesn't fit with the other 1-clicks anyway. It is really a question of timing, I think. And what would be most convenient for you of course.

i agree with wmansir: RB has drawn A LOT of attention -- just consider how many hits those 3 threads are getting within only 3 weeks! an own subforum would help organize quite a few things (i'm starting to lose overview over my bookmarks since i'm active in some other forums as well :D).

for those still "thinking" about donating: i already mentioned in a different thread that you simply don't get such great 24h customer service anywhere else for a free program! and jdobbs reaction time is just amazing, right? don't you guys just feel like being well taken care of, huh??? :sly: so give this man a nice pat on his shoulder and sacrifice a 6-pack of beer (like someone else mentioned :D) .

CK

[masterpug]

Tested and fails for the following scenario (which is what I expected, but maybe support can be built into future versions).

I routinely compile dvd projects that result in project size of over the dvd-9/dual layer maximum, say 11-15gig total size. Then, I use Nero Recode to transcode down to fit onto dvd-5. Works great, but I could obtain better quality with dvd rebuilder utilizing CCE, of course, to do the job. The program crashes since it currently doesn't seem to support over 9.4gig "source" size. I know I can use CCE to re-encode each file down so compiling=dvd-5, but it's much simpler to just load all files when authoring, let it do a huge compile, then tanscode/re-encode to dvd-5. If anyone's listening and can address this in future versions, then I would be most appreciative!

[kilg0r3]

Hm, hm, I am not _yet_ a user of rebuilder. I am however, an avid reader of the thread(s) and hence feel entitled to give my two cents to the extra forum thingy.

My Experiences
We have had a similar discussion in the New-AV Formats-Codecs section. Since there has been quite high traffic related to Real Video format, quite a few users have expressed their wish to 'get an own forum'. And, the most interesting thing for me in this discussion was not the fact that doom9 refused to create a seperate section, but that karl lillevold, senior developer of real networks, quite clearly stated that he was happy with the current state of things. I also think that there are some points in favour of staying in a 'mixed' forum.

Solving Problems in a Mixed Forum
First of all, some of the problems you might be experiencing might be very easily solved by posting in seperate threads with _good_ subject lines in the format "Rebuilder - Enter your topic here". Another option would be to start a new thread for each new version or each new major release. I bet you can think of even better ones.

Benefits of the Mixed Forum
Second, staying in the mixed forum has the benefit for jdopps that more people's attention is drawn to the program. You would not want to prevent other users from getting aware of this fine piece of software, would you.
And, think of jdopps too. Many of you have been emphasizing that jdopps should be receiving as much donations as possible. An increasing number of users will benefit his account much more than a faithful but small group of users of which each one pays once (or even twice).

Cheers, kilg0r3

[kilg0r3]

Originally posted by Zarch_UK
Agree with a previous post about hints & tips for CCE settings. At the moment i'm just hitting "GO". I'd like to know more, where can i look?

Ahem, this is your second post on doom9. Hence it might be that you have not yet realized that we have at least two 'gadgets' here which might proof very useful for you. One being the CCE section in this forum, which also contains an excellent FAQ the other being the doom9 guides, some of which treat CCE, and another still being the search-button.

I'll stop moralizing now.

[2COOL]

Why set the limit to just Doom9's search button? Let Google (http://www.google.com) be your friend. ;)

[nurseman]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I'm not trying to insult you... if it appeared that way I apologize. The reason I mention it is that if you think you are doing CCE -- but a message appears that mentions demuxing, you are actually doing ReJig (I demux cells for ReJig to compress).

OK... now with DVD-RB .28 no error 9 occurre, but...
(i hope i had configure everything all right)
I select the one click mode and

Transcoding on the run - GOOD
-----------------
Phase I PREPARATION started - time xx:xx:xx
-VTS_01: xxx.xxx sectors
-- scanning and writing .D2V file
-- xx.xxx/0 FRAMES/RFFS
-- building .AVS and .ECL files

and so on until VTS_06

Phase I PREPARATION complete - time xx.xx.xx
Phase II encoding started - time yy.yy.yy
- creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 00

them CCE start
A dialog box mark as CCE SP [edited out] with
GdipLoadImageFromFile failed: 3
(OK)

HELP!!!

[RB]

Originally posted by nurseman
A dialog box mark as CCE SP [SSG] Version with
GdipLoadImageFromFile failed: 3

You aren't using a cracked version of CCE, are you?? And you know forum rule 6, right?

[2COOL]

Originally posted by nurseman
CCE SP [SSG] VersionSSG = Saints and Sinners Group. My sources tell me that it's definitely a cracking group.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by masterpug
Tested and fails for the following scenario (which is what I expected, but maybe support can be built into future versions).

I routinely compile dvd projects that result in project size of over the dvd-9/dual layer maximum, say 11-15gig total size. Then, I use Nero Recode to transcode down to fit onto dvd-5. Works great, but I could obtain better quality with dvd rebuilder utilizing CCE, of course, to do the job. The program crashes since it currently doesn't seem to support over 9.4gig "source" size. I know I can use CCE to re-encode each file down so compiling=dvd-5, but it's much simpler to just load all files when authoring, let it do a huge compile, then tanscode/re-encode to dvd-5. If anyone's listening and can address this in future versions, then I would be most appreciative! I hadn't given this any thought -- but I don't think I've put any upward limitations on the source data.. what happens when it crashes?

[masterpug]

I'll copy/paste the error to a post when I have another one happen like that, probably try sometime within the week.

I have to say, all other uses so far for "one click" backups (CCE method) have worked perfectly...amazing little program to accomplish all the old school steps. I was making perfect backups, keeping menus/extras way back before the "transcoders" came along, and it's so nice to not have to deal with individual vob re-encodes, renaming IFO's/VOB's and using IFOUpdate,etc, although I learned so much from dvd2avi, vfapi converter, dvd2svcd using CCE, and CCE stand alone AND of course IFO Edit. Can't imagine the current crop of "transcoder" users that check out your program even have a clue what's happening in the background or how 1:1 backups used to be accomplished.

Most definitely will contribute $$ to the cause in the near future...thanks!

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by masterpug
I'll copy/paste the error to a post when I have another one happen like that, probably try sometime within the week.

I have to say, all other uses so far for "one click" backups (CCE method) have worked perfectly...amazing little program to accomplish all the old school steps. I was making perfect backups, keeping menus/extras way back before the "transcoders" came along, and it's so nice to not have to deal with individual vob re-encodes, renaming IFO's/VOB's and using IFOUpdate,etc, although I learned so much from dvd2avi, vfapi converter, dvd2svcd using CCE, and CCE stand alone AND of course IFO Edit. Can't imagine the current crop of "transcoder" users that check out your program even have a clue what's happening in the background or how 1:1 backups used to be accomplished.

Most definitely will contribute $$ to the cause in the near future...thanks! Thanks for the comments... remember when the only choice we had was VCD or (later) SVCD?

[masterpug]

got a lot of mileage out of svcd.

recently been using tmpgenc dvd author to put vcd/mpg1 tv captures on dvd and I get 16 episodes x 22min (commercials cut). I am trying to use your program to shrink video_ts folder that has about 6gig data (26 x22min captures) and compare output to same project shrunk using nero recode2 (which was very good). Also, transcoders, as you probably know, have a "bottom" compression ratio, usually around 2:1 ratio so in certain cases I'd need to use CCE anyway to complete the job.

[nwg]

Would it be possible to automatically create the working folder?

I have deleted my working folder but used the same name (DVDRB Tests) when doing the another DVD. When I forget to recreate the DVDRB Tests folder, DVD RB crashes and exits when clicking on prepare.