CCE One-Click Software Beta

[jdobbs]

Note to everyone:

No you don't need DVD2AVI.EXE for this program to run -- but you do need MPEG2DEC3.DLL (one of the versions, I recommend the Donald Graft version).

The output names of the files (.M2V) are set by DVD-RB in the .ECL it creates. DVD-RB does create .MPV files when it uses ReJig. That is only so it can tell the difference when rebuilding (between the original file (.MPV) and the "shrunk" file (.M2V).

I'll go back through the thread this evening and try to answer questions -- I'm at my "real" job right now and I think they want me to do some (gulp) "real work."

jdobbs

[djan]

Originally posted by huesage
OK,

before i crash out, I just quite DVD RB 0.16 with the paths still there. I unmounted the ISO that was in "Source Path" and when I restart DVD RB i get a runtime error everytime. I had to delete it and unzip a fresh copy, I guess I could have remounted that same ISO and it would have started up again.

Anyway, that is the last post for the night, hope this one has an easy fix.

good luck Jdobbs.

PS: I will leave RAMBO FIRST BLOOD widescreen edition on 1 click mode with DVDRB 0.16, CCE SP 2.67 and EclCEE. Will post results in the morning. Just erase the .ini file. No need to unzip the program again.

[huesage]

Originally posted by jdobbs
@ huesage

This is odd. I keep putting in one DVD after another and I just can't repeat this error.

Let me see if I have it right:

1. It only happens when using 2.67? (Is it Basic or SP?)
2. It happens at close to 100% completion
3. During the "Copy IFO..." phase of "Prepare"

Is there anything else that is unique about this?

@ jdobbs :

OK,

Seems like other people are having this same problem, I am using DVD RB 0.16, eclCCE to bridge CCE SP 2.67. When I use that setup the last of 3 stages fails, it goes through the whole encode process just fine, just when rebuilding the DVD and outputing the VOB files in 3rd stage I get that runtime error and it crashes.

Like a few more people are mentioned, it seems that when using CCE SP 2.67 the output files are not *.MPV like CCE SP 2.50 but instead they are *.M2V which might be the reason why 3rd phase will not work, because your code is looking for *.M2V files and not finding them, hence the runtime error and crash. I will try to change settings in CCE SP 2.67 as directed by hypo20 and hope that will take care of the problem.

@ all:

Sorry about the confusion on my instalation guide with DVD2AVI, I was trying to make it as short and in depth as possible and thought it would be easiest to just extract the whole zip file into the plugins folder instead of getting the zip file and choosing one specific file to put in as plugin.

@ tf:

I am glad that my guide has been helpful to at least one person :) . hopefully more people will find it useful.

[djan]

Hi, I'm using RB 0.16 with CCE 2.50 3-Click mode. Is it normal that I have only 1,5GB after done the Prepare phase ? Thx.

[mikegun]

Originally posted by djan
Hi, I'm using RB 0.16 with CCE 2.50 3-Click mode. Is it normal that I have only 1,5GB after done the Prepare phase ? Thx.
hi,
do you have addaudio enabled ?
do you have the addaudio.avsi in your avisynth plugin-folder `

regards,

mikegun

[djan]

No, I don't have addaudio() selected and I don't have the plugin you're talking about. Thx to help me.

EDIT : Where can I find the addaudio.avsi plugin ?

[Paced]

Originally posted by djan
No, I don't have addaudio() selected and I don't have the plugin you're talking about. Thx to help me.

EDIT : Where can I find the addaudio.avsi plugin ?

Have you placed mpeg2dec3.dll in your AVISynth/plugins directory?

You can download this plugin at http://www.avisynth.org/warpenterprises -> scroll down to Mpeg2Dec3, and download the version for AVISynth 2.5

Also, you won't need the AddAudio.avsi in .16

[huesage]

@jdobbs:

its actually not a problem in your code, its just a default setting in CCE SP 2.67 to output MPG2 encoded streams as *.MPV, while your program is looking for *.M2V.

Maybe you can add some code to look for one or the other type, so if MPV is present process those, else, process M2V. just a thought.

@ hypo20:

Thanx for the fix, oh and, Im druling over your system setup, i wish i could even come close to affording a dual. must really fly, specially with multiple instances of CCE. Sorry, off topic, ill stop.

[huesage]

@Jdobbs:

I was thinking of what extra feature would be nice on this app. Well, there are alot of little things I can think of as far as program flexibility which I am sure you are considering already, but how about this:

will DVDRB support network encoding?

I think that would take care of the processing power issues, we all know that CCE is great quality, but what about the speed? If you can find a way to have a master computer where all the original DVD files would be, and then divide tasks and send files to be processed to however many Slave computers on home network. Once all files are processed, then all Slaves would send files back to Master for joining and completion of project.

I am already doing jump and jacks since you have released this program, but the adition of network encoding would make me and I am sure tones of users out there very happy.

So, I know there is a DivX encoding program out there going by the name of "Vidomi" which does have that feature, would you consider this feature for future revisions of your program?

[jptheripper]

problem

im using cce 2.67

however, it said it couldnt opne the ecl file until i installed eclcce and pointed it to the cce exe. does this seem odd?

questions

can i manually edit the ecl files (assuming i calculate the bitrates by hand) and the number of passes and to change the bitrate so that each titleset has a different average bitrate.

thanx

[mikegun]

hi,

just played the output with powerdvd and the menu is not coming up.
it starts immediately with the main movie.
tried the dvd player of ifoedit and I got just a black picture.

mikegun

[huesage]

@ jptheripper:

Actually I beleive that will depend entirely on what verion of CCE SP 2.67 you are using ;-)

I think alot of people here will have to use eclCCE to bride the gab between CCE SP 2.67 and DVDRB.

so make sure you download and extract eclCCE and run it and point it too your CCE SP 2.67 executable. then in DVD-RB you want to direct the path to eclCCE.

think of eclCCE as a bridge between DVDRB and CCE.

Good Luck !

[XtremeMaC]

seems nice, little resize on the audio stream part would help
and new folder on "working path"

forgive me for me ignorance but I've been using dvd shrink,
this seems to be a little confusing for me
cce?
rejig?

is there a documentation for them

can i build only 1 title set? (ie vts_01?)
(a check button to remove video titles would be nice as well)

but good jub!!! :thumbup!!!!

autofilm threshhold?
I'm confused
can u supply all those executables in the zip as well or at least give url's
(I know i want too much)

I've these
- DVD Decrypter
- DVD2AVI
- AVISYNTH
- TMPGENC..others i dunno....

*also low priority mode would be nice....

Sorry I'm like this at new softwares u should see me on other forums

1 other thing I'm trying pirates of carrebean, the movie is 2hrs long it shows 48:32
is that showing how long the movie is or how long its gonna take for it to proces??

and what's wrong with uploading .png file type???? its the best for web!

also does this use variable bitrate or constant?
unfortunatelly my reduction level is %67.8 (kindda low 4 me :( )

http://forum.pleasuredome101.com/uploads/post-55-1079503001.gif

[huesage]

@XtremeMaC:

Hey, have you read the rest of this thread before asking for things? Check page 9 of this thread for instalation guide with links to all the software you need.

Please read the WHOLE thread before asking questions... Alot of questions are already answered.

Good luck !

[jptheripper]

im using 2.67.0.9 actually

went to change settings in cce, and now for some reason whenever i launch it it is off the screen on my laptop (arggg...) so i cant get to it no matter what i do. This problem began after i first ran RB

hmmm..

[FMalibu]

Originally posted by RB
Not :) It really only writes "9800" for the max. bitrate to the GOP headers, that's all. It still does perfectly satisfy your real max. bitrate setting. This is also in the CCE manual.

Hrmm...No it does not explicitly state this. What it says is the following:


If DVD compliant is selected, instantaneous bitrate in GOP units is controlled to be a maximum of 9.8 Mbps. During VBR operation, 9.8 Mbps is always written to the sequence header regardless the specified maximum bitrate.


From this I understand that it does set the "real" maximum bitrate to 9800, and always writes 9800 in vbr mode, regardless of the specified bitrate. Then again, I strongly suspect the CCE manual to be written by Japanese people, and it isn't 100% clear. So I may be wrong.

But I thought I actually remembered several people having an issue with buffer overflows when they did select "DVD compliant". So it's probably safer to disable it.

And another thing, according to the manual, it also resizes to 720x480 or 720x576. Would this work if you were to enable the "Resize to half-D1" option? :)

Anyway, I think I'll go try out the fixes of the latest beta now.

-- FMalibu

P.S.: I would have posted this earlier, but the forum seemed to be down :(

[XtremeMaC]

Originally posted by huesage
@XtremeMaC:

Hey, have you read the rest of this thread before asking for things? Check page 9 of this thread for instalation guide with links to all the software you need.

Please read the WHOLE thread before asking questions... Alot of questions are already answered.

Good luck !

sorry I'd normally read, but i'm in a hurry didn't realize this was the 6th page :D

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by Nic
@jdobbs & DMagic1: What DMagic is describing sounds exactly like what happened when my unreleased beta's of ReJig were writing incorrect SCR values. Have you got PowerDVD XP DMagic1? How does seeking work in that? Try seeking to a point and then seeing if PowerDVD seek bar stays at that point....

@all: I've put together a little free MPEG-1/2 Encoder called QuEnc that jdobbs may include into Rebuilder, if any of you feel like testing the quality please do, so that jdobbs can see if it's worth including.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72827
(please keep all posts about QuEnc, in QuEnc's thread)

-Nic

Ok, seeking worked fine with PowerDVD. I'm going to do a different movie to check it again.
Btw, like Mikegun, IFOEdit found some sectors in need of update also.

[jptheripper]

some comments now that its running.

I have been getting frequently cce crashes (1 per titleset, but only in the very small titlesets (i.e. originaly titleset ~8-84mB). Closing the crash allows RB to continue. Im in oneclick mode

In your progress display, instead of "creating m2v for segment 00" it would be more useful to see "creating m2v for vts07_00" or something like that.

I know that the coding would be significant, but I think that allowing for different bitrates on different titlesets is a must. I have coded in the past and would be happy to offer my assistance if possible. What language you working in?

oh and magic, are you saying we should do an ifoedit "get vts sectors" on each ifo after processing?

jp

[DMagic1]

Normally if everything is right IFOEdit doesnt find anything when you do a "Get VTS sectors".

Also noticed that the output movie isnt accepted by Shrink or CloneDVD.

My only real problem is this fastforward/rewind thing.

[jptheripper]

most BIG3 movies arent accepted by shrink, so this isnt a surprise.

Does anyone know a way to manually calculate and where to change the bitrates so I can do a specific average bitrate for a specific title?

without this I am afraid this tool will likely be useless for me

edit:

okay, found in the .ecl where to change passes, so that should be a simple find and replace which should be easy.

Also found the average bitrate code, hmmm this will be hard as there are 420 instances in my particular movie of vbr_brate_avg=*

for example, my movie would cause the average bitrate to be 2360 if i use this tool (quite too low) but could be nearly 50% higher if i could drop the bitrate on the extras

[hypo20]

Originally posted by huesage
@jdobbs:

its actually not a problem in your code, its just a default setting in CCE SP 2.67 to output MPG2 encoded streams as *.MPV, while your program is looking for *.M2V.

Maybe you can add some code to look for one or the other type, so if MPV is present process those, else, process M2V. just a thought.

@ hypo20:

Thanx for the fix, oh and, Im druling over your system setup, i wish i could even come close to affording a dual. must really fly, specially with multiple instances of CCE. Sorry, off topic, ill stop.

I'm happy, I helped. :o) Hope, it will help to others too.
I'm using CCE SP 2.67.0.23 with last eclCCE. Works great.

@huesage
Thanx. Spent looooot of hours in work, to build this baby. :D

[lighty]

@jdobbs
If no source is selected and Prepare button is pressed one cannot Abort running program. If one tries to close Rebuilder then a following message appears "You must ABORT process to end.", but ABORT doesn't do anything. Had to close everything in Task Mannager.

[DMagic1]

3 Movies, and all 3 have that same fast/rewind problem.:(

[hoozdapimp]

This is not really RB related, but I was thinking about getting the new CCE (I'm using 2.5 right now)...is it easy to setup (is it pretty much ready to run right out of the package?), or is there some configuring to be done? Thanks in advance.

[influenza]

This thread is already getting out of hand, by the massive number of replies. Posting questions on how to setup cce is really not appropiate here. Please post any questions in the corresponding forum. thanks

[lighty]

It would be best to open new forum just for DVD-RB so that a different threads might be started. This is getting out of hand. I am affraid to think what will jdobbs make out of this large number of posts...:rolleyes:

[jptheripper]

figured out my issue, cce is crashing everytime it loads a segment that has 1 frame (and my inf file has about 200 of them, for a titleset that is still pictures, and they arent in the ecl)

movie is fast and furious, ntsc, r1

let me know if posting the inf/ecl file would help

again thanx for your labors thus far

[StifflerStealth]

Edit: Updated later in the forum.

[hypo20]

@jdobbs mainly, but all are welcome to read

My few states of mind this evening:

- what about LAYER BREAK removal????? this is important for some standalone players
- what about EMPTY AUDIO POINTER removal?????

JDOBBS, these things are not so important, but it would be nice to have it in your GREAT proggie. :) Everything I'm doing now, 3 steps:

1. Decrypt using DVD DECRYPTER 3.2.1.0
2. Run through DVD Shrink removing all audio and subs that I don't want. This will remove the LAYER BREAK and POINTERS to EMPTY AUDIO streams too. I'm leaving video quality at 100% (or compress menus when too big), so no quality loss.
3. Run DVD Shrink output through DVD-RB.
4. RESULT: Absolutely PERFECT copy with no LAYER BREAK bit and no empty audio streams. Plus, I can remove subtitles.

Call it BIG3 Method v2.0 for example. :D

[Ishan]

Removing subtitles?
What's the point? considering their size, i don't see why so many people do that... :rolleyes:

[hypo20]

Because I want. That's the only reason. Simply I don't wan't to have subtitles, I will never use.

[JvD]

OK, yeserday I tried this app aout with Rejig and it was success from the start. Today i had time to try the CCE-way but had som MAJOR problem getting it to work. First run gave me the two red and yellow stripes in the bottom (like someone before med described). ANd the result was only 1,5GB. In the second tun i couldnt get those AVS-files to work properly. Only error codes about mpeg2source on line 5 or something (like people before me). Tried fresh install on all those apps needed BUT it didnt help. Just to try, i installed the dvd2svcd-bundle and go figure, suddely my avs-files was able to play. BUT the problem is, I cant get it to work the single-click-way. If i choose the 3-cklick-way its allrigt (atleast i think), its working rigt now.
OK, so what is it that I do wrong. Why can it work in one way (3-klick) and not in the other (one-cklick)? I use CCE 2.5 at the moment. Anybody that has experienced this problem (Ive seen some of you have), what did you do? WHat was wrong?

[huesage]

OK,

Im getting really frustrated with the CCE popup thing, I have accidently canceled many passes. not my fault thought, i have to use my PC while it is encoding in the background. Darn space bar !!

Sorry but had to vent, please please ! maybe the author to eclCCE can release a version that starts minimized?

sorry to be a nag, but i cannot properly test this app this way. I keep messing up the encode.

[KungFuCow]

Originally posted by JvD
OK, yeserday I tried this app aout with Rejig and it was success from the start. Today i had time to try the CCE-way but had som MAJOR problem getting it to work. First run gave me the two red and yellow stripes in the bottom (like someone before med described). ANd the result was only 1,5GB. In the second tun i couldnt get those AVS-files to work properly. Only error codes about mpeg2source on line 5 or something (like people before me). Tried fresh install on all those apps needed BUT it didnt help. Just to try, i installed the dvd2svcd-bundle and go figure, suddely my avs-files was able to play. BUT the problem is, I cant get it to work the single-click-way. If i choose the 3-cklick-way its allrigt (atleast i think), its working rigt now.
OK, so what is it that I do wrong. Why can it work in one way (3-klick) and not in the other (one-cklick)? I use CCE 2.5 at the moment. Anybody that has experienced this problem (Ive seen some of you have), what did you do? WHat was wrong?

Read back several pages. Its been discussed and I and others have posted how to solve the problem.

[JvD]

Originally posted by KungFuCow

For those of you having problems with the red pattern at the bottom of a black screen and undersize DVDs, you need to make sure you have MPEG2Dec3dg.dll in your Avisynth plugin dir and either Resample Audio is check and AddAudio is unchecked (If you're using CCE 2.5, etc) or if you're using CCE 2.67, you need to have Resample Audio unchecked and AddAudio checked (You need the addaudio.avsi script in your /plugin dir for this tho).

OK, thanks! but if I follow that instruction, choose the one-click-option and fire it away it starts running and if i look at some of the produced .avs-files (the first produced) it says in MPC:

Evaluate: Unrecognized exception!
(DVD:\........\v02000000001001.AVS, line 5)

The AVS-script looks like this!
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("D:\DVD_DUMP\D2VAVS\V02A.D2V")
trim(0,11207)
ConvertToYUY2()
ResampleAudio(44100)

OK, so whats your solution NOW? ;-)

[Xitrum]

Could someone please help me or point out what I did wrong please!

Last night, I tried to use DVD-RB. I installed everything fresh and followed the installation instructions given by Huesage on page 9 of this post, word by word. THE ONLY DIFFERENT IS THAT IS USED CCE V2.67.00.23 instead of v2.5 or 2.66.

After setting up all the paths to point to the correct location and set the correct setting to use CCE 2.66+. I tried the one click option. After DVD-RB finished the preparation phase (about 5 minutes later), it opened up CCE using the eclcce.exe and CCE just sit there, and there was no job listed in the windows. After waiting for about 5 minutes to see if anything happened, I decided to click the Exit button. After that CCE windows closed, another CCE windows popup, with nothing in it, and it keep doing that until it ran out of jobs to do.

The same thing happened when I tried the 3 clicks method.

The interesting thing is that when I looked at the working directory, there was no .M2V file for it to do any work.

Initially, I tried to get it done directly from a mounted ISO image created by DVD Decrypter. Later, I copied all the file to a directory and tried to get it to work from there. In both situation, the same thing happened as I described before.

Did I do something wrong? or is it CCE v2.67.00.23 is not supported by DVD-RB yet? Could someone please help me fix this problem?

[hobgoblin]

First of all, this looks like a very handy tool. It works like a charm for me when I use Rejig, but when it comes to cce I get problems. I have followed the installation guide on page 9 in this thread, and installed avisynth 2.54 and the fix described there.When I use the cce option, the process goes well until cce is about to start encoding. Then I get an error message saying: Cannot open .ecl file. Can someone explain what's wrong, or point me in a direction where I can find some answers? I have read the whole thread, but no'one seems to experience this error.I get the error whether I use cce 2.66 or cce 2.67. When I use 2.50 the program seem to encode files, but in a very rapid fashion. When I check the folder where the files are supposed to be procesed, none is created.
TIA,
hobgoblin

[lab-one]

@hypo20

Call it BIG3 Method v2.0 for example.

I am going to try this too. I really prefer movie only back-up but hate compressing them....

[TheBigDave]

Originally posted by StifflerStealth
I had to take a page from the "Big 3" method. Some of you have never used that method by the hints in your posts, so I will try my best to explain.

First, Download the program IFO Update....

StifflerStealth,

Thanks for your input, but it didn't work for me. It created a slightly different problem. If I just hit Play on the menu, the movie would start fine. But if I tried to FF, chapter jump or select a chapter from the menu, it would stop and go back to the main menu.

And again the movie seemed to play fine on the PC with PowerDVD. It only seems to occur on standalone players.

I've used the Big 3 Method and I've used IFOUpdate in the past. The results always work on my standalone players.

I tried to do the same movie a second time with DVDRB v0.16 and the exact same problems occurred.

Are me and DMagic1 the only ones having these types of problems?

[nitroman]

does it support seamless branching ?

[dvdRENEGADE]

Originally posted by dvdRENEGADE
My first attempt at using this app was with Pirates of the Caribbean DVD #2. I used CCE 2.5 with ECLCCE. Everything went smoothly and it created my VIDEO_TS directory which contains my finished backup. However, menu navigation within PowerDVD and WinDVD using the backup is non-existant. I am not able to select anything from the menu. The buttons will not highlight when the mouse is over them. The original works fine. The video .vobs play fine when opened separately within PowerDVD and WinDVD. Puzzled, dvdrenegade

P.S. Thanks for the hard work jdobbs. It's good to see you back at the grind...hehe. This app is looking very promising.

@jdobbs,

My second attempt:
I tried the same DVD again using DVDRB 0.16 and the same menu navigation problem arose. I did the DVD with InstantCopy and it worked flawlessly.
Any ideas?
dvdRENEGADE

[dvdRENEGADE]

Originally posted by nitroman
does it support seamless branching ?

That has been answered in this thread. Try reading the previous posts before blindly asking for help.

[quantum]

As to the seeking problems, I brought it up here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=459670#post459670) yesterday. It's due (at least in part) to the vts_tmapti table not being correctly transferred or updated.

Yesterday I attempted to work around this by hand using ifoupdate but it didn't work. Searching on vts_tmapti will find many threads discussing the issue. We'll have to wait for jdobbs to address it. Hopefully he can figure something out.

[djan]

Originally posted by Paced
Have you placed mpeg2dec3.dll in your AVISynth/plugins directory?

You can download this plugin at http://www.avisynth.org/warpenterprises -> scroll down to Mpeg2Dec3, and download the version for AVISynth 2.5

Also, you won't need the AddAudio.avsi in .16 Yes, I'm using the Donald Graft version MPEG2Dec3dg.dll and it's in AviSynth plugin directory.

[StifflerStealth]

Originally posted by TheBigDave
StifflerStealth,

Thanks for your input, but it didn't work for me. It created a slightly different problem. If I just hit Play on the menu, the movie would start fine. But if I tried to FF, chapter jump or select a chapter from the menu, it would stop and go back to the main menu.

And again the movie seemed to play fine on the PC with PowerDVD. It only seems to occur on standalone players.

I've used the Big 3 Method and I've used IFOUpdate in the past. The results always work on my standalone players.

I tried to do the same movie a second time with DVDRB v0.16 and the exact same problems occurred.

Are me and DMagic1 the only ones having these types of problems?

That method works for the big 3. I found a way with the DVD-RB files, but I think I might have copied the wrong text file. I have too many tips and tricks on my HD :D. Later on I will look at the files again and correct it. Sorry about that.

Although, those settings that I have listed there are the ones that jdobbs needs to do to make the seek work as well as working in Transcoders. I taking a guess here, but I think jdobbs just merged a great portion of his IFOUpdate code into this new tool, so he needs to copy over the functionality of all those settings.

Stiff

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by StifflerStealth
At least this is what I did. This may not be too clear, but I'm a Computer Scientist, not an English Major. :)

I had to take a page from the "Big 3" method. Some of you have never used that method by the hints in your posts, so I will try my best to explain.

First, Download the program IFO Update in the Doom9 DL section (link to come later).........

Nope, didn't solve the problem. Thanks for tring.

Hopefully jdobb knows of the problem and has seen it so it can be addressed. Seems a few ppl havent seen this bug yet. If my only DVD player was my Toshiba I would think everything was ok too. Thankfully I have many to test on.

[djan]

Before talking about what RB may add as extra or whatever or talking about BIG3 here and making a big meli-melo, try to help people still always having problem.

I still have problem using RB with CCE 2.50. When making the prepare process, I have only 1.5GB in the directory and I think it's not normal. I have MPEG2Dec3dg.dll installled in the avisynth directory and I have addaudio unchecked and resample checked. I use EclECC 1.7 as the bridge for CCE 2.50. What am I doing wrong ? I don't understand. Please help me. Thx.

[tf]

It might not make a difference, but I use CCE 2.50 too, but with MPEG2Dec3.dll, NOT MPEG2Dec3dg.dll.

Those seeking problems are not seen on my rips, dunno why. But the trick about removing audio pointers and layer break with shrink is neat. I guess jdobbs will do that as well in later versions, but give the man a break. The feedback in here is overwhelming.

-tf

[jdobbs]

Like a few more people are mentioned, it seems that when using CCE SP 2.67 the output files are not *.MPV like CCE SP 2.50 but instead they are *.M2V which might be the reason why 3rd phase will not work, because your code is looking for *.M2V files and not finding them, hence the runtime error and crash. I will try to change settings in CCE SP 2.67 as directed by hypo20 and hope that will take care of the problem.
@huesage,

I don't know how this could be possible. The output filename is written into the .ECL by DVD-RB and should always end with .M2V. The only time you should see a .MPV is when using ReJig.